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i'm aware
I used 123456qwertfg with shift and ctrl modifiers
oh weird
honestly it sounds like i'll mess up more than anything if i do that
i'm fine with mouse
what do you use for movement?
zqsd
for a minute i was like wut, then i remember you probably have a french keyboard
unsure what that is
yeah no it's just a french keyboard
i'm too used to mouse to ever change ngl
it's kinda how i learnt to play mmo as a kid
i knew a red mage that clicked, idk how they did it
it's not as bad as it sounds
and my friend has one of those mmo mouses for healing
theres an ast who solo heals utlimates and is a clicker
the only downside is you gotta be carefull to not missclick
its wild watching them play
but with practice you don't do mistakes
at least it's okay for me
i did raids probably as hard if not harder than hardest ff14 raid as a clicker so i'll be fine
whatevers efficient for you. you do you
trust me i wish i could play with keyboad
i know it would be comfier
but i'm just stuck with mouse
ive been debating on rebinding everything and moving it over to rdfg
to answer how to not move your hands tho, i just use modifier keys
right now i play on esdf
one row is non-modifier, than second is shift, then third is ctrl
and if i have a pet i use alt
i really feel like it's not a good idea with off gcd skills intensive class
i'll do way way way too much mistakes for a while until i get used to it
oh right, ffxiv has a lot of off gcd skills
depends on the class
with a good UI organisation mouse makes that easier imo
that's why i spent the last hour changing all of it
now i have everything under my eyes, and i have more space to see the fight
ye with my ui i click a lot of my heals as well, since i keep right next to my character
once i have all skills unlocked i'll separate aoe and single target skills
and it should be clean
i like using mouseover macros for healing, so i don't click
plus im clicking on party members names the whole time
that's in wow though i don't remember if you can do mouseover in ffxiv
i used to when i could macro embrase for everything. so i could heal two people at once. but now it doesnt really improve anything
so i could click one person, and mouse over another. and eos would cast embrace on whoever i mouse over, while my normal heal goes on who i was targeting. then square had to ruin the fairies
sadge
i fucking hate the changes they made to aetherflow, and the faires. its so obnoxious
does it play like white mage now? that's what my friend said
that all the healers feel the same now
not even close
whm is braindead
theyre pretty homogenized yeah. feels like sch has no real job identity anymore though. at least its still a shield healer. the healing kit we have now is significantly better than before. but the lack of fairy control, and no damage abilities, its just like a core piece of what the class used to be is completely gone
wdym, scholar you just had selene heal for you. that was braindead fr fr. my friend would just plop selene somewhere and then not do anything lol
that only works at low levels
yeah i know i was hyperbolizing as a joke
i like reactive healing so i played whm, it was pretty easy tho
embrace doesnt do enough healing, and whispering dawn is about on par with medica 2. the tether is nice for trash packs, but its kinda meh outside of that. sephera or however its spelled is pretty gg though
Alright i finished with my UI ! I think i fixed everyting i needed to fix
Just had a detail with casting bar left
Thanks for all the help with that
but whm is pretty much all big fat insta heals. with a couple hots. outside of that it doesnt really have much going on. sch has a shit ton to it. i love shield healing. it feels more rewarding imo
lol for now*
I planned it for later too haha
yeah whm was the closest to holy priest (my second main in wow) so that's what i did
i tried resto shaman, but it just felt weird to me
i tried a bit of holy pally, but never really got deep into it
it can be, i haven't played it in a long time now i'm playing enahancement and elemental
so i couldn't say what resto shaman is like now
people say it needs a revamp tho and that it feels old unlike the other healing specs
that's all i know
resto monk looked pretty fun and goofy
but i last time i played was legion i think. whatever the one with those weird relic things was. got those unlocked and quit the game
didnt play cata or mist outside of some random pvp private servers
yeah i dabbled during legion, i didn't raid or anything tho
i haven't raided since wotlk i guess, i skipped MoP
and only did a little in cata
idk they all just felt weird
think ff14 came out sometime around there too, and so me and friend got deep into that shit
idk whatever was out 10 years
i think MoP was out when 14 released
or well, when ARR released
cause my wow friends got me into it
i played monk during ARR
mad lad
i dont think i had much of any of the other classes leveled up at that point. hsw and stb was whenever i went big into leveling alts
yeah before settling on a few main i wanted to level everything first haha
rf/hurricane 
nice lol
the history lesson videos in age of empires 4 are pretty neat
Screw retail, season of discovery HYPE.
ye the campaign and art of war are actually pretty well made
i dont recognize this ui, what game?
no wait
i see it
just barely visible in the background
slay the spire
Slay the Spires, alright, not really my cup of tea
i'm more a fan of Tainted Grail: Conquest
kinda gettin an urge to play Wildermyth again
Inkbounds pretty decent as well
why
I only now realised this card gets additive bonus up to 5 times and not multiplicative 😂
Finally I got a win and with a somewhat infinite too!
the fuck, so zenos is actually alive but in another body ???
so there is edilibus in zenos dead body, and zenos in another body
i'll need explanations
either way i finished stormblood
lol they explain it to you. in a long while
and now the stories actually good, so youre in for a fun ride from here on out
finally got through the dog shit, and can finally enjoy the game lol
the story was already good before, still i'm excited for what's next then
i mean yeah its still good, its just shb and ew are so much better
Ff14 start was honestly decent, ARR took me like.... 10ish hours? Probably less? But then i realized how much more was left and was like NOPE FUCK THAT IM BUYING A SKIP, i'll come back and do this forced msq shit when i feel like it
i mean tbh theyve made a ton of improvements to aar's msq. they cut out like so much content, and made it way more streamlined. before it was literally 50 hours just on the post arr msq. its just mostly boring due to having to build up all of the background to the lore. with that being said though, they had a terrible base to build off of. 1.0 was dogshit. they worked miracles bringing out what they had from that mess.
the author for shb and ew is so much better though. just everything about it is leagues better above hsw and stormblood.
if you have friends
that also play
tbh
I don't
ive watched gameplay of the game n stuff its good but yea
def a game you play with friends
me irl
well at least w.r.t. gaming
if ur soloplayer its still a good game
its horde demolishing
tho i think you can que with randoms
@warped wren
mby make some friends that way

so what game is hot right now in this channel?
Death is dead was popping off for a while
Bullet hell ARPG
I "finished" Death Must Die
all achievements + a couple 30 Darkness runs
I'll play it again whenever they release the next big update
this run was so good that I just straight up uninstalled after lol, quit on a high note
can't wait for new arpg to come out, too bored of existing ones
How dare you be bored of LE
league of legends? O_o
Oh. Never got into that.
anything but poe, I don't categorize it as arpg, heck I don't even categorize it as a game
Some of their tooltips looks really bloated. Not easily readable imo.
Poe isn't that bad lol, I'd say that to something like eve online
Aka spreadsheet and graph simulator
EVE Online is capitalist corruption sim in space 
The tooltips? Wait till you see PoB 
I have no idea what that is.
Yeah I mean without boring you to death, the tooltips are like the least relevant and least bloated part of PoE
That said
PoE 2 is likely to serve as a good entry point for new, interested players. Completely new engine, distinctly different and streamlined gameplay, no content bloat
Can't wait honestly, since it'll be in parallel to 1 and with a staggered launch cycle that will allow us to play both 1 and 2 adequately
Well, I'm really only interested in PoE2 because they have a monk. Practically 0 new arpgs have one so I can't get my punchy/kick-y fix.
There's going to be another trailer for PoE2 on the 30th
Though that one seemed like they're showcasing some kind of gunner class
If it plays even somewhat like the Demon Hunter in D3 I'm down.
arpg market is just bad
theres grimdawn epoch poe d4 then d2
PoE is the farthest ahead in the genre by far
diablo keeps regressing
epoch still needs years d2 is just d2
might as well just play PoE
its going to be around for another 10 years 
at least theres plenty of mods to keep us busy
PoE currently has a /infinite/ content loop going
once PoE 2 comes out you can just rotate poe 1 and 2 leagues
idk, i personally dont like the zoom zoom 1 button gameplay, just to go back and fitler through screens worth of shit. bores me after doing 1 or 2 maps
you choose to play that way though

i just banged out bosses all league basicly
no rotting in crimson prison
also if u need to filter through screens of shit i suggest you make an actual filter
i am excited for grim dawn's new expansion
most popular arpg builds are always 1 button zoom zoom, and for a good reason: most people are lazy and hate complication
all arpg endgoals are just
zoom and loot
thats the genre
zoom and loot
time is money friend
rubshands
also issue with making games in the arpg genre is they take actual years to build a snowball effect
just read up a bit, yeah arpg market is bad. but at least what is available is great and still active.
like its the same issue why soo many early mmos died
it takes forever to build a base
PoE just has that base endgame loop thats disgusting
that they can make a new mech every 3/4 months and loop it
Epoch has a loop system but like
still needs time to add stuff like PoE does to the echos
yeah and originally launched at a good time.
right now last epoch is just blast the objective in the echo go next echo
grimdawn is cool but it has alot of /old/ arpg things
like the act looping 20 dif resists
yeah its why i love grim dawn, nostalgia effect
diablo 2 is fine blizzard is in the dirt by far
idk how they ruin d4 like that
when PoE has been out for years
they could have learned

instead they copy pasted lost ark into diablo
hopefully MS can get that ship righted
blizzord just copy PoE mechanic and recolor

also they are releasing delve league in wow next expac

Havent played wow in years, came back for Legion played 2 months and quit. before legion I quit when cataclysm came out
Crypto scams? In 2023?
Same but also for poe2 lol
Less excited for d4 expac lol
Also d4 had a perfectly good system they could have implemented from d3. Rifts
Just make it so league content appears in the rifts or something
god rifts were so mind numbing
I just see rifts as a much more basic and random version of mapping. I'd still rather have rifts with open fields that you could maybe use your horse rather than spamming some stupid nm dungeons lol
<@&1082357055484071997> spam a little bit up
Only 50k? Damn, the crypto market really has hit the gutter. Used to get offered more during the scams a couple years back. Sad times 😦
it's interesting getting into rts as a fighting game player, i'm encountering the "mental stack" again and i'm noticing some similar ideas carry over albeit in obviously different ways. I'm bad at it just like i am at fighting games too lmao
I went from playing arpgs to roguelikes and I still suck at both
i suck at games in general tbh
Same
normalize being bad at things you like
I did the same, but excel at both
Maybe i just siphoned the skill you had from you
The thing i hate the most, is how much more i excel at racing games than any other genre, but i consider all racing games boring af
the only racing games i ever really got into were zero-g ones, like F-Zero. I played the gamecube one a ton
actually i played dirt a fair amount too
Crash Team Racing, Hydro Thunder, and Fuel were my jams
I guess im fine with those 3
Shit that was close...
Was really hoping to find calc gamba but no such luck
I wanted tingsha madness
The Steam trailer for Fishing Planet is nuts.
There is a reason I practically hate defect...
Death Must Die shoved me down the bullet heaven rabbit hole
Now I'm addicted to Soulstone Survivors
Yea it gets to the point you need to turn off visuals to dodge stuff eventually
Game turns into dodge red simulator
bone minion master or w/e it was was the hardest for me visually
everything's the same color more or less
i think you can change it tho, but the art just made my eyes squint and hurt to tell what was going on i didn't play more of it
brotato is pretty decent, i like that one
I mean, which bullet hell isn't
It just helps that I can play it in my course breaks
Or even during the course because it's low brain usage
Im 5 hours into Soulstone. Loving it. Best game in the bullet hell genre I’ve found so far. Looks like it’s gonna be a long grind to get unlocks
ill show you my tree rn
@warped wren
tldr you want to basicly invest enough points to get the global benefit nodes
minor soulstones is like the main hold back
Man the electric motorcycles are gonna take over soon.
Everyone’s been saying how good the Zero bikes are except they cost too much and the battery doesn’t last long enough. Battery still sucks at 200 mile range, prolly 70ish going ham, on their super bike model but the price was like $26k and now it’s $15k OTD at my local dealer.
I wanna ride one because the torque values don’t even seem real lol.
An R1M makes like 90-95lbs of torque and the zero super bike makes 130…idek how that translates to being rideable but I wanna feel it 😂

What game?
Soulstone Survivor
Damn
How many hours did it take to get to this stage?
20? 30? 50?
im at 34 hrs
Soulstone survivors is almost good , only if there's a challenge
The passive skill tree of that game is crazy
i mean survivor likes really dont have challenge
The challenge is keeping your enemy modifiers scaled beyond your current power to push yourself
the woes of being dps
litteraly the only job you can't play while sleeping
that's probably why it's popular 
could try setting up a party finder
i can't do both right ?
about to shoot myself rn
i wanted to reach 76 tonight wich i could totally have done if it wasn't for that 2h queue
unfortunately not
you could also try data center travel, to one thats a bit more active currently
nah. queueing up pulls from every world on your data center
im not entirely sure how to do a data center travel. im on a congested world, so i never have to
i'm gonna grab a snack and it's gonna proc and i'll have to start over
i progressed in shadowbringer
as you said it's far superior in storytelling
i'm guessing there will be a big plot twist soon, but so far i love the build up
coupled with the fact i unlock all my interesting skills one by one, it feels amazing
yeah the author for it wrote the dark knight job questline and everyone loved it so much, she got a big fat promotion and was the lead for shb and endwalker.
how far have you gotten into it
oohh okay
i really wanna improve with samurai, i'm trying to do 0 rotation mistakes in any situation but it takes time to learn
especially on boss i'm not familiar with, since i must also learn it
could just hit up a target dummy and practice
that wouldn't help
i always have to do that, to practice the openers
my dummy rotation is perfect already, the difficulty is adapting in battle
if i am forced to pause my rotation, if some cd gets delayed etc
but i'm improving, slowly but surely
yeeee youll get there. this is about when the dungeons start having actual mechanics in them, and start to have bogus shit you havnt seen before
it's starting slowly ngl
i did 2 sbh dungeons and i can already feel they are much harder than the ones of other expansions
though i would say more confusing for the second one i did
it was particulary difficult once i understood it
if at level 90 i still need practice, i'll spam some level 90 dungeons to train
maybe it sounds weird, but i feel like i'll do much less rotation mistakes in fight once i unlock more skills
what bugs me rn is there are still significant downtime between big skills and i tend to easily get distracted and mess up some combos after
with more combos and CD i'll generally be more carefull
ye once theres actual mechanic, and you have a real rotation going. everything just clicks and its smooth sailing.
yup it's what i'm thinking
the mistakes i'm doing aren't colossal, it can be applying my 1min dot a few seconds too late, using meiko shisui on yukikaze when i don't have to thus losing 1 gcd of a better skill, not using my ranged attack immediately when i can etc
still it annoys me
also a bad habit i must correct : i should adapt my skills to my position and not my position to my skills if that makes sense
like practice using skills only when in the correct positional?
nah, i do that but not the correct way
basically i must use 3 specific skills to use my big attack, 1 requires side and 1 requires back
there isn't a priority between those twoi
for positionals, just stand on the corner where the little circle on the ground ends. then you just strafe left and right. and you never have to really move again
ah i getcha
and for exemple moving to use a back attack while i could just stay on the side and use a side one instead
while in reality it's extremely simple, right after i do let's say my back attack, i can just go to the side because i won't need to be on the back for 15sec
cause when i must position quickly like that i can panic and mess up something
either way, lot of improvements to make
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Not me or my bike, it’s an MT07 but that’s basically how my MT09 feels in A mode 1st gear now. It’s a fucking RIOT. I love it so much 😍
Didn't even realise I got an achievement lol
Finally a win!
More important I was able to kill transient with defect. That's kinda hard if not with silent or watcher for me
Mostly really good relics and lots of good cards
Snecko really delivered this run
every game needs a slider like this
Especially poe
Definetly agree.
just make it not work when playing with wardloop players for funsies 
would need a mute option too for them too
"hey google how do i disable my friends theyre annoying"
Forget that I'd rather reduce my own/minion skill visibility
I don't like playing with others except in campaign and early mapping
Pushem down the stairs
Or wait did you mean a different type of disable?
Lol, that got me good.
my favorite slider in PoE is the bloom one, I crank it up!
Have to say, Soulstone Survivors has an excellent sense of progression
I just unlocked the character specific trees and holy hell
I feel like I've just started unlocking the game

Do love me a summon build. Easy curse 48 completion.
mistakes were made
"new player, trying out a new class. no upgrades. T5 curses were doable on my Spellblade, i bet i could level this Arcane Weaver on T6 and progress my map"
two minutes into the game: "i immediately regret this decision"
38 minutes of pure hell. saved only by getting an extra two dashes somewhat early. also arcane shield doing god's work in there too
i refused to surrender the match and lower the difficulty
thats a pretty hearty level jump though haha. P21 to P72 in one map
i dont think i blinked more than a dozen times during that fucking hellscape
i ended up shuffling some skills halfway through because my usual strat of stacking vuln/expose and letting a massively buffed Arcane Blade annihilate everything didn't have time to ramp upgrades
ended up just circle-dash-kiting around geometry and letting whatever could hit them hit them
i was dominating everything up until this T6 curse run. i'm still leveling all of my maps... i'm at T4/5 on them
i didnt realize how fucking hard it scaled from 4-5-6
it was the first time i had bosses live for more than maybe 10-15 seconds
thats what i was doing that entire match
Yeah and (spoiler alert) it gets worse. Much worse.
i kept trickle killing enough trash for the next wave of bosses to be ready to spawn. and yeah i found out that six is the max it allows in (assuming it's six... as soon as one died another entered the arena)
i barely have any runes or skill tree unlocked though, so that should help a little bit later on
Does over 100% crit chance help?
I have 1 character left to unlock, the Death Knight
yes, you can double/triple crit
multiattack also scales (although with diminishing returns after 100% multi)
Ohh
I see
So far I haven't read any guides or builds or anything, just kinda winging it
Not even checked the wiki
anything over 100% multi is 0.4x as effective i think (for triple/quad casts)
i havent looked up any guides or anything but i did scan the wiki for some basic mechanics stuff
yeah the basic stuff like crit/multi scaling is worth knowing
yeah this isnt a "fuck yo DoTs" crit situation like most other games heh
Soulstone Survivors, apparently.
Oh I guess they moved on from whatever the other game they were playing lol
i wonder if now that microsoft owns actiblizz, if they'll bring back Blizzard's rts games. Microsoft seems to be doing a good job with AoE 2, 3, and 4. 2 and 4 seems to get funded tournaments too. and they have the Age of Mythology remake next year(?)
i guess first is redeeming warcraft 3 reforged tho
if that happens lol
No they are not
A horse mount in WOW earns them more money than the entirety of StarCraft 2 history
Unless they introduce horse mounts in starcraft 3
How would that change, its not the mount that earns the money, there's just wayy bigger player base in wow for them to even consider buying a mount
I was being sarcastic
idk, people thought age of empires was dead
wouldn't surprise me if they do an age of mythology 2 either
but age of empires 4 wasn't trying to do "muh esports" like starcraft 2 and overwatch did, it's just a fun game with good multiplayer features
ppl play AoE2 more tho i think, with 3 being the lowest
and AoE2 still sees support, i think this year they added a better spectator mode for streaming matches. I think at least Warcraft 3 could see a relaunch
cause reforged has some garbage features and tons of issues
Imma wait for 2 or 3 more blizzcon before I hope for something
ah yeah i didn't mean this year or next
there was a survey a while back about a warcraft 3 soft relaunch, but idk what happened to it
woo first C48 complete! on muh slashy spellblade
@waxen sonnet Gotta stick to the rules I enforce lol
I'm just looking forward to using Torren to ske-daddle away when I aggro a bunch of mobs I didn't want to fight, just cause shiny loot behind them xD
Whatever I find and works for me, first playthrough I think
Good choice!
I know there are items everyone says you 'need' but honestly half the fun in these games are doing your own thing and infuriating other players by succeeding through ignorance xD much like I play LE lol
I'll post my Day 1 drip when I clock on tomorrow haha
Besides the base upgrade materials and flask improving materials, there isn't anything you NEED
You can make a build out of almost anything with enough skill and patience
Exactly! I've watched so many 'Can you beat ER only using X?' runs that shouldn't work but do, if you're persistent enough lol
Bushy and Lil' Aggy are my go-to's but they've been Bingo'ing lately so I'm finding more and more creators to watch!
My advice would be to not watch too much as the first time through a souls game is magical and one you will never get back. I don't want it ruined for you. But that's me, you do what makes you happy 😉
I've never watched a full let's play - only funny/joke runs like 'Can I beat the first boss without saying the letter E?' which are heavily edited down for youtube engagement so plenty of the game is still unseen to me!
For Elden Ring challenge runs i strongly recommend GinoMachino on youtube, hes a very good player
I've seen them pop up in shorts! Doing a hitless run where they aggro'd a guys dogs into killing the boss for him (and subsequently themselves) without even going through the fog door xD
yeah that sounds like Gino haha 
i think a month ago he posted a run called the god run, 7 Souls games without getting hit
I've heard of those people - madness lol!
I'm watching Bushy do a deathless all Boss randomizer, just died ||at 159/165 to a tall troll stuck inside a pagoda in a tree|| 🥲
Halls of torment > poe man @eternal sky
This was the game i was looking for a few months ago that i thought was vampire survivors hahaha
Got grim dawn too. Im enjoying these more than the boring sht triple a games lately
Grim Dawn is great! Have fun with it 🙂
@eternal sky this thing is doing work
made it to overlord 5 on my first full-curse attempt, mmmm i love this game
I have been levelling Beastmaster
Enjoying the summons
Though Legionnaire is pretty poggers too
i started working up necro a bit
Seems like the timeloop one gives better blue curr
yeah necro feels like it takes a long time (like well into 2nd/3rd map) to ramp up, but it feels beefy when it's going. meanwhile my spellblade is annihilating like 5 mins into the game
the spellblade's mastery feels amazing. when i'm cranking i can keep it going for awhile
Don't think I've unlocked those yet
Only problem with Beastmaster is chasing those footprints
Can get dangerous sometimes
Yeah, I think Overlord Cycle is mostly for the boss rewards
anyone played slormancer before can give me some opinion, it's on sale so I may consider grabbing it
emet selch sure is hard to read, i can't tell what he is up to at all
my guess is it's gonna be a super late endgame villain so it might be too early to know, there will be like a billion plot twist in between
emet is fantastic, i won't say more but he's my favorite character
i can already tell he is by far superior to every villains until now
bro means buisness
also now we are being helped by gaius
interesting developpement
it's the person i expected the least to be alive
i have all of the heroes unlocked, just havent played more than 3 really
no one still play slormancer here?
whoa nice
I'm still in the 5s mostly
this is what my character set looks like rn lol
i tried it out, didn't like how it felt personally
i prefer chronicon
but considering that I was "done" with Death Must Die in 26 hrs, and this is still 18 hrs in, there's a LOT more content to be had in Soulstone despite being close to the same price tag
I have chronicon, but heard that the endgame is shallow comparable to d4, while slormancer is deep endgame almost as poe
dunno if I should buy slor now or wait till 1.0
Try rogue genesia. Even cheaper and you won't finish in 100 hours
Builds are very diverse
I see Soulstone Survivors being talked about here too.
Interesting.
Is it that good?
its a good one imo but a bit repetitive
it has good build variety, as well as good 3d graphics
but the gameplay loop feels sameish after a bit
btw tip for anyone playing soulstone: just camp a corner of the map for much faster XP gain rates and favorable enemy spawn locations
thats how you also beat the timed challenges
and the same reason I find the game quite boring bc once you understand corner camping is meta, and thats the best way to play the game, it becomes so utterly boring to play
so you know that I know what im talking about. I had this game 100%'d at least as of June
Maybe one day you guys will try Rogue Genesia and understand what I mean by it being my favorite roguelite survivor 😛
How often does Soulstone receive updates?
the last major update was nov. 6 i think
and before that sept. 8
tried genesia but didnt really like it too much after a bit of time
I want to assume that Soulstone devs are aware of the corner strat being too efficient, given this info...
I wonder how they mitigate it, if they actually want to.
dunno, i don't play soulstone
just because you can play a certain way to min/max combat effectiveness, doesn't mean you need to do it to beat the content in the game. if it's going to make the game hella boring/dumb/whatever... then just choose not to play that way. these are all basically single player non-competitive games
i'm having fun playing SS without dumb stuff like corner camping. it's actually a little bit of a challenge to dodge everything, when you have stuff cranked way up. i enjoy it that way. i have zero reason to kill the fun by intentionally playing in a non-interactive way for a few % more XP gain
i think you guys misunderstand and misinterpret what "meta" means
with that being said, i'm sure the devs can find a simple way to fix this. i've never done corner camping, but i can imagine how it works. you turn off any curses that cause the random area damage spawns (like meteor), get a long range fast casting insta kill build ramped up, and just let it go. one easy fix for that is to add a mandatory (no toggle) curse, similar to meteor, that does zero damage but has large knockback.. boom, no more semi-afk corner camping
I agree but also people will always optimize the fun out of the game, kinda like how it feels like everyone and their grandma is playing either fc frostbite rm or the volatile zombie build lol
Some people might find them really fun but I also think a lot of people only play them because they're strong
But yeah i wouldn't really blame the player basically. It's inevitable, the devs should try their best to prevent stuff like that
there's always going to be some percentage of players who do this. i bet if you could get the devs to pull the stats (not a simple task most likely) on the number of hours /played in the last X weeks for the "meta" FC RM or VZ builds, you'd still find it to be a pretty small proportion of the total
Yeah I mean it's usually the vocal minority that are "meta slaves"
The big majority of players just do whatever is fun for sure
yep. places like reddit or discord are not indicative of what the full playerbase looks like
Yup
They are the ones that ask in discord "what's the best build right now, link guide plz"
most people dont use the social media (or at least do it in a lurk-only mode)
It's kinda like how while D4 had fuck all for twitch viewership it still had millions of active users
It's just different divisions of players kinda
yep, and i dont think it should be on the dev's shoulders in any game to "fix" that
if something is obviously broken and is affecting competitive/ladder play, then yes fix that
you can't (or shouldn't) really stop players from optimizing the fun out of a game
Yeah like if something is just straight up better, just because not everyone is doing it doesn't mean it shouldn't be fixed
that's a personal choice, and those players need to mature in their approach to this hobby, and someday that'll probably happen for them
40-something year old me has a very different mindset than 18 year old me, or 25 year old me
I mean while I do agree, it does detract from the regular players experience to see someone doing like 3000 corruption while they're at like 500. I know that's kinda immature and people should just ignore it but it is what it is right
I'm making an LE example but I'm not really talking about LE
Just all games in general
yep. and for LE, at least here in discord, you will quickly see other players jump in and remind newbies that high corruption pushing is (or can be) a slow, boring slog, with less-than-linear gains in loot
Like obviously a good optimized build should perform better than a none thought out slapped together one
And I'm not saying it lands on the devs shoulders to make them equal
I'm just saying that it's best to try to mitigate the feeling of inadequacy that some people get from looking up at others
Since otherwise they can get discouraged and stop playing
But yeah, pushing corruption in LE is brain melting lol, idk if I'm even gonna be bothered to go to 1k
I know I can
That's enough for me usually
there's probably an equal number of newbies that look at a high corruption screenshot and get excited instead; excited to work on their build/gear and get to that point
you can't design a game that accomodates every personality/approach
Yeah true but how many will make a build equally good to FC rm, they'll make their build, grind long and hard for good gear just to realize that their build just kinda sucks in comparison (this is obviously not everyone, I'm specifically talking about the people I was mentioning earlier)
I think we basically agree but im kinda playing devil's advocate
And tbh on the topic of corruption pushing I feel like it wouldn't loose much value if they took out the time aspect entirely
It should just let you go really high quickly and give incentive for it
yep agreed. they could massively boost the corruption you get from a Shade kill and let you get closer to your builds effective limit
Yeah like legit they could 5x it and I don't think it'd be a bad thing at all
it could follow similar scaling to how the bonus stability scales with corruption. start low and cap around 600-800c or so
True yeah
I asked Mike about it the other day and he wasn't sure if they were adjusting the corruption gain speed
They can easily implement one but they have not, it's also the only survival game I have ever played where this is a problem
You are also forced to use that strategy to get specific achievements, because it's the only way to clear fast enough, and those achievements unlock new weapons and skills to use, so it's not as simple of a choice as your claim states
It's just poor design by their devs. Yeah, you could just do it a few times, unlock the stuff, then play back to normal running around, but for me seeing how much worse that was kinda killed it for me
The obvious choice is changing the spawning system so you don't need to do it in the first place
And for what it's worth, I've never one time playing LE used a build guide or asked what meta is, I've come to my conclusions by playing every single class up thru emp monoliths
and I thought you would have known that too considering how active we all are...
i wasnt accusing you of doing that
that directly implies that you thought that 😛
@waxen sonnet was referring to the brainless metaslaves
yeah I got that now
Lol am I pinged for drama??
yes
yessir
you're under arrest
i only ping for two things, and drama is one of them
the other one is when i need to get Judd or Mike's attention like immediately, because i have a Very Important Question That Must Be Answered Now
Oh about my meta comment. Apples you and I have had our disagreements but I always have thought they were good arguments had in good faith with someone who is not a troll
dragon's dogma 2 presentation today at 1 pm pst i think if anyone is interested in that game
Lol we're good prim
I just misunderstood what yall were talking about
it's not a problem
oh, i think it's a big problem! nerd slapfight goooo
that is 100% what i imagine every time i mention that, thank you
I tried getting my wife to watch napoleon dynamite (she never seen it) and only made in 20 minutes before she was too bored
hurts >.>
rough, man. may need to find a new wife
yeah did consider it
I only like it for nostalgia. I watched it the first time with my best friend and we had a blastie. Going back and watching it solo though...
that was our main deployment movie on my 2nd ship
It's just...not good objectively. But I love it
it's not a movie you watch solo
Truth
it's a movie you watch with friends and make fun of
while watching
it is bad but I thought that was the point lol

man this scaling gets kinda nasty
further i've gotten yet so far though. started this match as a P20 Legionnaire, just to level it. haven't died yet 😛
i feel like i could take this combo (enabled through 1 passive rune / arcane skills) to super high scaling on any class
im currently playing slormancer just bought it
its okay
def a controller game tho
basicly have a cd and 2 semi spamable skills so far on this class im playing
warrior feels meh
P20->P120 in one match
a ramped up Bloodlust buff is ridiculous. i had 82% CDR there at the end
yea bloodlust goes crazy
i take that back you can summon/attack stuff offscreen with mouse + keyboard
overall from a few hrs of playing its worth the price
controller is giga auto pilot tho
I got slormancer when it first came out and it was really barebones back then
I have to check it out again
poggies i vastly improved my samurai rotation
i did a bit of experimentation and i found a 3 gcd filler i can use to have all my 1min and 2min bursts lined up
@near hedge i need an info, i just learnt the food don vauthry give to the people of eulmore and around eulmore is purgator meat. and then alphinaud says "remember when that guy told us many people entered eulmore, but very few leave ?". is it implied vauthry makes purgator meat out of people who transformed themsleve in purgator due to purgator meat diet ?
lol wtf is pugator
oh wait. you play in french. in english its called meol. its not really a meat or anything. at least in english, its elluded to more like a bread
they bake people into bread?
umm not exactly
pretty dark
idk if i really wanna explain what it is due to it being a big spoiler to later
how do you mark something as spoiler?
||fh||
Right Click and choose the eye icon on the right
well in french it's made out of those white monsters
idk the actual english name
i just tried to translate
i dont have that
the white monster things, are corrupted souls of people. the different aetheric affixes are balanced within our souls, but whenever the balance gets out of whack and leans more to one affix, then your soul becomes corrupted with that affinity. so the meol is food thats feed to the people to tip the balance into the light affinity thus turning them into the light monsters. its more like pure light food made from the light monsters, to make more light monsters.
Are you on Mobile ?
nah. im using the flatpak for linux
i dont remember how much of it is a direct 1:1 of the windows client
Select the text and hover it with your mouse
oohhh i see.
Or use 2 of theses |
so it just automatically places the double |
lol thats basically the same
i understood that
but does that means they make light food out of people they transform on purpose
to feed people to make more monsters
cause it's implied, but not explicitely said
yeee. you figure that pretty soon after where you are
okay
its pretty much a slave class society, and whenever you outlive your patrons need, you get turned into those things

fucking hell
the entirety of eulmore is sheer nightmare fuel
it was already really ominous when i first visited but it escalated a lot
the most unexpected plot twist happened, turns out don vauthry is actually hot
kinda gross
ikr. couldnt believe he was acutally a babe
and he just chose to look like a fat whiny slob
oo nice
really have enough to buy my medium house but i need alot of time to design it anyway
it's for the plot
so our character goes "i have to stop him" instead of "i can fix him"
dude. hah. i'm at 85% total CDR (550%+ cast freq modifier)
that's one of the biggest glowup in gaming, ye
it may be yes
also my boy zenos is back to get his OG body, i hope he is gonna obliterate that cringelord edilibus and show him how he doesn't need an OP body to be strong

lol about that
i mean if he loses it's kinda justified
not having his actual body is a gigantic nerf
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Can't wait to play that tbh
too bad it comes with denuvo though
well just pay empress 500 bucks real quick lul
I'm really confused how many games are being discussed here at the same time
i asked the mods several times to rename this to "Other Games discussion" and/or have a separate offtopic channel
I keep asking them to rename it to inferior topics
I petitioned to call it unregulated drama
OT should just be a forum channel like how feedback and suggestions are
https://youtu.be/IMu-bmjTY8w?si=R29QJ6vjgSGI5bem&t=73 cant wait to commit war crimes against definitely not pokemon in 2 months
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That's the thing. We shouldn't have to mix non-gaming related stuff with games.
So changing the name to other games is kinda pointless
Too bad EHG don't give a damn
that's close to 5 months of listening straight

and i thought i listened to a lot, i usually have my headphones on all night when i'm at home
Mf listened to 20 hours of music in one day
top .10% jesus
This is something we're willing to revisit and discuss - the main holdback is moderation time, while we might not be actively posting in all the channel we do try and read them all.
It's been mentioned elsewhere that we are getting the Beesfriends properly up and running again so once that has had time to settle/bed-in we'll be able to look at our coverage and bandwidth - no promises, but we'll have a look at options!
Make me a beefriend, i'll time everyone out so there's no need to mod 
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Im hyped for this. Also capcom usually makes bangers
Ive never played any dragon dogma but ive heard of it plenty of times
u can pre order it
I dont see the point of preorder tbh. But I also did that for d4 so 
Isnt pre-order used to be for stores so when they run out of stock
if your gonna buy anyway sure, but you'd want to know more
Tfw when preordering in the current day and age feels like playing slots in a casino

simple solution. dont preorder
@pseudo tinsel ur builds just bad
there really isnt much to discuss
if im being real
5k phys hit just wont work
like even this naked pf build pconc
that chaos max hit is just a result of the low chaos res, as for the phys max hit, i guess its a bit low, but so what, its an experimental build
has a higher phys hit
thats because your "naked" build have 20K armour
my build relies on evasion and ghost shroud
and as i mentioned yet again, its an experimental build that still needs work done with it to get to a better state
there isnt anything to work on tho
you got a +2 chest
ur at a 6l with lvl 21 alt quals
u got 2 voids and badge
also lvl 94
the builds just bad
"bad"
says you
says pob
Thorag, disengage. This is all Gav does.
i see that, all he does is talk shit about others work without offering ways to improve it
you cannot improve this
your weps your ammy your boots your body arm
are all locked in
you cant squeeze anything in like that
this guy is literally you
but an actual build
that guys phys hits borked tho
no, this guy uses ignite, i dont use ignite
exactly
i get 1 - 1.5mil damage on average hit without damage over time or ailments
this guy does 3mil dps per second with ignite '
so? why does that matter?
what if i want to use direct damage?
did that ever occur to you?
because its direct instant damage
like u need to be doing
8 mil per hit
lol
for it to feel the same as a 3mil dps ignite build
the damage i deal is on a 0.6 second cooldown (not accounting for the extra cooldown reduction i get from having enemies nearby) which for bosses would be an extra 100% cooldown reduction
ur going to be dead before you kill the boss
its not like ur 1 shotting the bosses at all
you have 5k phys hit lol
that should be easy to solve with some more work and you are not meant to just stand and facetank shit either
also ur at 72% evade chance
its not that easy
phys hit is hard to get if ur not armour by default
you need to use like light coil + double taken as helm
and taste of hate
or cloak of flames also
if ur not armour based
since soo many items in your build is locked in you cant really do much about that
i might also mention that this build isnt meant for the uber bosses, its only meant as a speedfarmer on T16 maps
even then its bad
like
i wouldnt even use this to kill guardians n stuff
1 single mino rock would just kill you
its not meant to kill guardians, like i said, speedfarm maps
speed farming maps these days is just doing maven witniss and doing invites
it should do fine against normal T16 map bosses that are not guardians
where does 12 come from?
sorry 8 blinks if the boss has 13mil hp

ur gonna be sitting there trying to kill some of these rare monsters forever
like just cross out exped essences
also if they are not frost bombed and frostbited ur avg hit tanks to 900k
ok, so what? ive mentioned it several times, and ill do it again, THIS IS A EXPERIMENTAL BUILD
i couldnt not care if its experimental you said it looked good on paper
it literally doesnt
if it doesnt look good in pob it sure aint gonna look good ingame
i said the damage looked good on paper with that cooldown on the skill
ur thinking too deep into the cd
it might take upwards of like
30 frost blinks
to kill some of these rare mobs
also you dont have 30 shock im psure
soo now ur under 800k avg hit
i have the flesh jewel that gives me 100% chance to shock on any damage
well first hit will be lower damage since first hit wont have the shock effect, but second hit should have full damage
Just saw the POB and read the discussion
Gotta agree with Gav
You might find this build fun, but a lot of people would not touch it with a ten foot pole
just soo many actual builds
Which is alright, I keep trying to make Dom Blow not feel shit every few leagues, everyone needs a passion project
Real shocker: Worb with the exact same setup + IL would probably feel way better
It's really not fine 
idk it seemed fine when i tried it out
It's like
its just not op like SRS
It's FANTASTIC at leaguestart, without a doubt. Even before the giga sentinel and 3x aura relics
But as soon as you start doing even lightly juiced content and start running into some mongo rares
You start getting fucked over hard
Yeah
Because the rares wipe out your army sometimes and then you just swat at them and die
My DB Guardian in Crucible had like 85% res, ~70ish block and spell block, and it still felt like ass in t16s
Well not always ass
When you had a good run going with Vaal DB dudes stomping it was great
But every couple maps some stupid rare would spawn and screw me over completely
Plus the mechanic mobs were idiotically overtuned so that added to the frustration
another issue is bosses like shaper and sirus
that just teleport around
same with maven
Idk man they just need to make the fucking sentinels spawn on rare hit and it solves at least the mapping issue
you literally just dont get to play the game
and yea it needs to be rare hit atleast
It's such a feelsgood skill in such a feelsbad spot
they just caught up with nerfing minions besides buffing srs and ailments
since metamorph league
all minion builds that work are currently /good/
specs spiders srs abso
skele mages are nuts too
like skele mage guard

guardians fucking disgusting now for league starting
free ride to red maps
well that was just silly easy
the damage was so idiotically high that it literally just became a red circle dodging sim
I was just rotating my cursor around the screen and everything would just vaporize instantly
7-bosses per wave? more like 7 seconds or less per wave
henry kissinger is dead
yeh its over represented in ruthless too, except it falls off for ubers
Get to o9-11 or so and we’ll talk
(I’m not there either hah)
But I did just start unlocking paladin, and I discovered that’s it’s basically got the same build my spellblade did, except with more/better of the stuff. So that’s going to be fun
dragonball fighterz got rollback if anyone plays that game
i wasn't a big DBFZ guy, but thought i'd mention it
Cool, dmd is really fun and I'm glad to see what's coming next. I was a bit disappointed when I realized that there wasn't an archer in the line up
Awesome
Y'know that doesn't actually sound that fun
I could have pushed to O4, maybe even O5, but t had reached the stage where it was 1hit KO but no challenge other than that
i've considered turning off the pillars and meteor curses to cut down on the "red circle dodging simulator" effect at higher scaling. i have no issue with needing to dodge enemy attacks, but with those two curses on the screen is just so full of other red circle shit that it starts to get a little meh in the fun factor
unfortunately, turning those off also turns off the rare+ material drops
What does one do with the special boss drops
I just have those lying around but no recipe seems to use them
the legendary drops arent used yet (the 4th tier of weapons will use them). but if you turn off all meteor curses you also arent getting the purple drops. you can only disable the highest tier of meteors if you're still farming mats
More like "I use a hard drive and not nvme ssds"
Lol no I was making fun of the meme
Of course I use one
I am a king not a peasant
true kings of men don't uninstall games
they just accumulate them in their steam folder until they need to buy a larger SSD, and they copy their games drive over to that
Might be some truth to that
When I built my PC there were only 1tb m.2
Now it looks like there's 4tb
Might be time to upgrade
i need to get a bigger one, i only have a 500mb one for os, and a 1tb one for games
yeah, i considered getting the 4TB samsung on black friday. i went with the 2TB instead. i have two other 1TBs
i have hard drives too tho for games that don't need ssd
Sad I just missed black Friday and cyber Monday. But normally there's another big sale right before Christmas so I'll see if there's a deal to grab in 2/3 weeks
i have ~200TB of hard drives (14TB each) that are sitting unused here. i used to farm Chia crypto with them heh
Lol
my wife actually just asked me yesterday if i was going to plug my crypto rig back in. she likes it in our master bedroom, to heat the entire upstairs. her office is up there too and she's WFH
quad 3080s, couple AMD GPUs, and the whole Chia array
Dang you wife is an ice cube too? Thought it was just mine
Quad 3080s lmao
Did you bot to buy them?
she's from florida. i'm from the northeast. she wants the house temp set to 75, i want it at 66. we compromise at 70 :/
I'm in Florida, 74 is the norm. Anything else is expensive as hell, and I know people who set it to 78
They are psycho
i had 2x 3080Ti, 2x 3080, 2x 3090, 4x AMD Vega GPUs going at my peak. i didn't bot to get them, just put myself on the queue lists to buy, and did the Newegg Shuffle everyday
But ngl your body does acclimate... I used to love 68. Now even 72 is too cold
Wow. Lucky bastard. I did the Newegg shuffle everyday for literally 7 months and never got selected even once.
I ended up ebaying a scalped one. My gpu died so I was forced. Very unhappy with doing that
i got a few of them direct from EVGA thru their queue lists. took between 2-12 months but they eventually came available. i'm still using the Kingpin 3090 (AIO watercooled one) in my main gaming rig here
separate AIO coolers on both CPU and GPU, 360mm rads on each. system is nice and quiet 😛
sad evga doesn't do gpus anymore, they were the best brand by far
Yup
Wonder if Intel is going to try to be competitive with Nvidia or if their gpu was a one time thing
i had the 16c/32t AMD 5950X CPU (for crypto reasons), but recently upgraded to the 7800X3D and damn it's nice for gaming
I have the 7950x3d :)))
it seems like intel is making a reasonable push to be competitive in the GPU space. gonna take them awhile to have the R&D catch up
I need it for unreal engine tho. Buying it to play games is stupid as hell
Nobody needs that to max any game
idk, with how releases have been maybe they do lol
there were a lot of badly performing games this year
yeah, and you have to bind core affinity to CCD1 to get the games to use the extra L3 cache
or CCD0, however they number it
is this some kind of discussion I'm too much of a peasant to understand?
Intel Arc had pretty solid reviews. It's not top of the line, but its fairly priced. I think if they keep going they might have something in a few years
More players in the market is always a good thing...
Keeps gpu prices lower and quality higher
team red/green have also had decades to refine their drivers; intel can get a lot of optimization thru that as it progresses
i just have a 5600x and 3060ti 😔
Lul I have 3060. Not even Ti. I'm skipping this gen and will buy their 5000 whatever
to be fair if you want to keep cpu/gpu cheaper and even more affordable, the chinese must be allowed to access to more modern chip tech, but too bad they have to be on their own
China isn't a major player in gpu manufacturing my guy
Literally only USA and Taiwan are
it isn't coz all of those tech embargo
without which, cpu and gpu price would be 1/2 they are now
It contributes to it... but china steals usa tech and there's a lot of geopolitical reasons to not help a nation that is anti-western democracy
perhaps china should stop stealing IP and manipulating their currency, if they dont want to be held under a tech embargo
Yeah
and i'm leaving it there, lest this devolve into a political conversation
every country steals other country's tech at 1 point of another
If China actually stopped stealing and played by international law then we would probably share shit with them
Not quite
China doesn't even recognize us trademark or copyright law
They give no fucks
not just quite, but too much, US itself stole shit tons of tech from british empire, france and soviet at the time, but back then there was no international laws and shits









