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near hedge
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lol yeah you need to rebind your keys. 1-0 is dogshit keybinds

stable shore
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i'm aware

tawny sand
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I used 123456qwertfg with shift and ctrl modifiers

near hedge
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oh weird

stable shore
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honestly it sounds like i'll mess up more than anything if i do that

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i'm fine with mouse

near hedge
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what do you use for movement?

stable shore
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zqsd

tawny sand
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for a minute i was like wut, then i remember you probably have a french keyboard

near hedge
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are you playing sideways keyboard?

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oh french. lol yeah

stable shore
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unsure what that is

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yeah no it's just a french keyboard

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i'm too used to mouse to ever change ngl

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it's kinda how i learnt to play mmo as a kid

tawny sand
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i knew a red mage that clicked, idk how they did it

stable shore
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it's not as bad as it sounds

tawny sand
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and my friend has one of those mmo mouses for healing

near hedge
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theres an ast who solo heals utlimates and is a clicker

stable shore
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the only downside is you gotta be carefull to not missclick

near hedge
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its wild watching them play

stable shore
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but with practice you don't do mistakes

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at least it's okay for me

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i did raids probably as hard if not harder than hardest ff14 raid as a clicker so i'll be fine

near hedge
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whatevers efficient for you. you do you

stable shore
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trust me i wish i could play with keyboad

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i know it would be comfier

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but i'm just stuck with mouse

near hedge
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ive been debating on rebinding everything and moving it over to rdfg

tawny sand
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to answer how to not move your hands tho, i just use modifier keys

near hedge
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right now i play on esdf

tawny sand
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one row is non-modifier, than second is shift, then third is ctrl

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and if i have a pet i use alt

stable shore
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i'll do way way way too much mistakes for a while until i get used to it

tawny sand
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oh right, ffxiv has a lot of off gcd skills

near hedge
stable shore
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with a good UI organisation mouse makes that easier imo

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that's why i spent the last hour changing all of it

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now i have everything under my eyes, and i have more space to see the fight

near hedge
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ye with my ui i click a lot of my heals as well, since i keep right next to my character

stable shore
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once i have all skills unlocked i'll separate aoe and single target skills

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and it should be clean

tawny sand
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i like using mouseover macros for healing, so i don't click

near hedge
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plus im clicking on party members names the whole time

tawny sand
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that's in wow though i don't remember if you can do mouseover in ffxiv

near hedge
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so i could click one person, and mouse over another. and eos would cast embrace on whoever i mouse over, while my normal heal goes on who i was targeting. then square had to ruin the fairies

tawny sand
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sadge

near hedge
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i fucking hate the changes they made to aetherflow, and the faires. its so obnoxious

tawny sand
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does it play like white mage now? that's what my friend said

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that all the healers feel the same now

near hedge
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not even close

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whm is braindead

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theyre pretty homogenized yeah. feels like sch has no real job identity anymore though. at least its still a shield healer. the healing kit we have now is significantly better than before. but the lack of fairy control, and no damage abilities, its just like a core piece of what the class used to be is completely gone

tawny sand
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wdym, scholar you just had selene heal for you. that was braindead fr fr. my friend would just plop selene somewhere and then not do anything lol

near hedge
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that only works at low levels

tawny sand
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yeah i know i was hyperbolizing as a joke

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i like reactive healing so i played whm, it was pretty easy tho

near hedge
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embrace doesnt do enough healing, and whispering dawn is about on par with medica 2. the tether is nice for trash packs, but its kinda meh outside of that. sephera or however its spelled is pretty gg though

stable shore
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Alright i finished with my UI ! I think i fixed everyting i needed to fix

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Just had a detail with casting bar left

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Thanks for all the help with that

near hedge
stable shore
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I planned it for later too haha

tawny sand
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yeah whm was the closest to holy priest (my second main in wow) so that's what i did

near hedge
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lol i played disc

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disc, and resto druid

tawny sand
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ha

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i played resto shaman and holy priest

near hedge
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i tried resto shaman, but it just felt weird to me

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i tried a bit of holy pally, but never really got deep into it

tawny sand
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it can be, i haven't played it in a long time now i'm playing enahancement and elemental

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so i couldn't say what resto shaman is like now

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people say it needs a revamp tho and that it feels old unlike the other healing specs

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that's all i know

near hedge
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resto monk looked pretty fun and goofy

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but i last time i played was legion i think. whatever the one with those weird relic things was. got those unlocked and quit the game

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didnt play cata or mist outside of some random pvp private servers

tawny sand
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yeah i dabbled during legion, i didn't raid or anything tho

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i haven't raided since wotlk i guess, i skipped MoP

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and only did a little in cata

near hedge
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idk they all just felt weird

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think ff14 came out sometime around there too, and so me and friend got deep into that shit

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idk whatever was out 10 years

tawny sand
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i think MoP was out when 14 released

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or well, when ARR released

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cause my wow friends got me into it

near hedge
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ahhh good times

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when sch was pulling 10k a trash pull, and was completely broken lol

tawny sand
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i played monk during ARR

near hedge
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mad lad

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i dont think i had much of any of the other classes leveled up at that point. hsw and stb was whenever i went big into leveling alts

faint mauve
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yeah before settling on a few main i wanted to level everything first haha

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rf/hurricane omegalul

faint mauve
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nice lol

tawny sand
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the history lesson videos in age of empires 4 are pretty neat

hearty jewel
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Screw retail, season of discovery HYPE.

near hedge
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ye the campaign and art of war are actually pretty well made

junior oyster
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I hate automaton...

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Also clash...

eager ridge
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no wait

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i see it

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just barely visible in the background

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slay the spire

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Slay the Spires, alright, not really my cup of tea

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i'm more a fan of Tainted Grail: Conquest

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kinda gettin an urge to play Wildermyth again

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Inkbounds pretty decent as well

junior oyster
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I love monster train but I'm not touching inkbound

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I hate that they made it mp

twilit mountain
junior oyster
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I only now realised this card gets additive bonus up to 5 times and not multiplicative 😂

junior oyster
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Finally I got a win and with a somewhat infinite too!

stable shore
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the fuck, so zenos is actually alive but in another body ???

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so there is edilibus in zenos dead body, and zenos in another body

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i'll need explanations

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either way i finished stormblood

near hedge
stable shore
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sigh

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it's ok, i'll start unlocking many new fun samurai abilities from now on

near hedge
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and now the stories actually good, so youre in for a fun ride from here on out

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finally got through the dog shit, and can finally enjoy the game lol

stable shore
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the story was already good before, still i'm excited for what's next then

near hedge
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i mean yeah its still good, its just shb and ew are so much better

eager ridge
warped wren
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anybody here played Warhammer Darktide?

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is it worth picking up on sale?

near hedge
# eager ridge Ff14 start was honestly decent, ARR took me like.... 10ish hours? Probably less?...

i mean tbh theyve made a ton of improvements to aar's msq. they cut out like so much content, and made it way more streamlined. before it was literally 50 hours just on the post arr msq. its just mostly boring due to having to build up all of the background to the lore. with that being said though, they had a terrible base to build off of. 1.0 was dogshit. they worked miracles bringing out what they had from that mess.
the author for shb and ew is so much better though. just everything about it is leagues better above hsw and stormblood.

placid yarrow
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It's working kappa

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They quit, ez

eternal sky
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that also play

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tbh

warped wren
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I don't

eternal sky
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ive watched gameplay of the game n stuff its good but yea

eternal sky
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def a game you play with friends

warped wren
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well at least w.r.t. gaming

eternal sky
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if ur soloplayer its still a good game

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its horde demolishing

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tho i think you can que with randoms

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@warped wren

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mby make some friends that way

copper pawn
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so what game is hot right now in this channel?

placid yarrow
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Death is dead was popping off for a while

shadow sundial
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Bullet hell ARPG

warped wren
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I "finished" Death Must Die

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all achievements + a couple 30 Darkness runs

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I'll play it again whenever they release the next big update

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this run was so good that I just straight up uninstalled after lol, quit on a high note

copper pawn
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can't wait for new arpg to come out, too bored of existing ones

placid yarrow
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How dare you be bored of LE

narrow token
warped wren
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new league launches 8th Dec

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unfortunately I am unable to can till 22nd Dec

narrow token
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league of legends? O_o

warped wren
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PoE

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the name's PoE

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Edgar Allen PoE

narrow token
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Oh. Never got into that.

copper pawn
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anything but poe, I don't categorize it as arpg, heck I don't even categorize it as a game

narrow token
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Some of their tooltips looks really bloated. Not easily readable imo.

placid yarrow
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Poe isn't that bad lol, I'd say that to something like eve online

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Aka spreadsheet and graph simulator

warped wren
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EVE Online is capitalist corruption sim in space okay

warped wren
narrow token
warped wren
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Yeah I mean without boring you to death, the tooltips are like the least relevant and least bloated part of PoE

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That said

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PoE 2 is likely to serve as a good entry point for new, interested players. Completely new engine, distinctly different and streamlined gameplay, no content bloat

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Can't wait honestly, since it'll be in parallel to 1 and with a staggered launch cycle that will allow us to play both 1 and 2 adequately

narrow token
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Well, I'm really only interested in PoE2 because they have a monk. Practically 0 new arpgs have one so I can't get my punchy/kick-y fix.

warped wren
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There's going to be another trailer for PoE2 on the 30th

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Though that one seemed like they're showcasing some kind of gunner class

narrow token
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If it plays even somewhat like the Demon Hunter in D3 I'm down.

eternal sky
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theres grimdawn epoch poe d4 then d2

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PoE is the farthest ahead in the genre by far

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diablo keeps regressing

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epoch still needs years d2 is just d2

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might as well just play PoE

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its going to be around for another 10 years xdd

near hedge
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at least theres plenty of mods to keep us busy

eternal sky
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PoE currently has a /infinite/ content loop going

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once PoE 2 comes out you can just rotate poe 1 and 2 leagues

near hedge
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idk, i personally dont like the zoom zoom 1 button gameplay, just to go back and fitler through screens worth of shit. bores me after doing 1 or 2 maps

eternal sky
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you choose to play that way though

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i just banged out bosses all league basicly

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no rotting in crimson prison

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also if u need to filter through screens of shit i suggest you make an actual filter

sullen peak
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i am excited for grim dawn's new expansion

eternal sky
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thats like a year and a bit away

copper pawn
eternal sky
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all arpg endgoals are just

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zoom and loot

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thats the genre

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zoom and loot

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time is money friend

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rubshands

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also issue with making games in the arpg genre is they take actual years to build a snowball effect

sullen peak
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just read up a bit, yeah arpg market is bad. but at least what is available is great and still active.

eternal sky
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like its the same issue why soo many early mmos died

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it takes forever to build a base

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PoE just has that base endgame loop thats disgusting

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that they can make a new mech every 3/4 months and loop it

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Epoch has a loop system but like

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still needs time to add stuff like PoE does to the echos

sullen peak
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yeah and originally launched at a good time.

eternal sky
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right now last epoch is just blast the objective in the echo go next echo

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grimdawn is cool but it has alot of /old/ arpg things

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like the act looping 20 dif resists

sullen peak
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yeah its why i love grim dawn, nostalgia effect

eternal sky
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diablo 2 is fine blizzard is in the dirt by far

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idk how they ruin d4 like that

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when PoE has been out for years

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they could have learned

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instead they copy pasted lost ark into diablo

sullen peak
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hopefully MS can get that ship righted

eternal sky
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blizzord just copy PoE mechanic and recolor

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also they are releasing delve league in wow next expac

sullen peak
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Havent played wow in years, came back for Legion played 2 months and quit. before legion I quit when cataclysm came out

eternal sky
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legion was last good expac

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was last expac i played

real sable
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Crypto scams? In 2023?

junior oyster
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Less excited for d4 expac lol

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Also d4 had a perfectly good system they could have implemented from d3. Rifts

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Just make it so league content appears in the rifts or something

near hedge
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god rifts were so mind numbing

junior oyster
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I just see rifts as a much more basic and random version of mapping. I'd still rather have rifts with open fields that you could maybe use your horse rather than spamming some stupid nm dungeons lol

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<@&1082357055484071997> spam a little bit up

eager ridge
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Only 50k? Damn, the crypto market really has hit the gutter. Used to get offered more during the scams a couple years back. Sad times 😦

tawny sand
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it's interesting getting into rts as a fighting game player, i'm encountering the "mental stack" again and i'm noticing some similar ideas carry over albeit in obviously different ways. I'm bad at it just like i am at fighting games too lmao

junior oyster
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I went from playing arpgs to roguelikes and I still suck at both

tawny sand
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i suck at games in general tbh

junior oyster
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Same

tawny sand
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normalize being bad at things you like

junior oyster
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Lol this art xD

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Love*

eager ridge
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Maybe i just siphoned the skill you had from you

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The thing i hate the most, is how much more i excel at racing games than any other genre, but i consider all racing games boring af

tawny sand
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the only racing games i ever really got into were zero-g ones, like F-Zero. I played the gamecube one a ton

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actually i played dirt a fair amount too

eager ridge
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Crash Team Racing, Hydro Thunder, and Fuel were my jams
I guess im fine with those 3

junior oyster
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Shit that was close...

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Was really hoping to find calc gamba but no such luck

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I wanted tingsha madness

eager ridge
junior oyster
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There is a reason I practically hate defect...

warped wren
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Death Must Die shoved me down the bullet heaven rabbit hole

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Now I'm addicted to Soulstone Survivors

eternal sky
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Yea it gets to the point you need to turn off visuals to dodge stuff eventually

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Game turns into dodge red simulator

tawny sand
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bone minion master or w/e it was was the hardest for me visually

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everything's the same color more or less

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i think you can change it tho, but the art just made my eyes squint and hurt to tell what was going on i didn't play more of it

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brotato is pretty decent, i like that one

warped wren
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It just helps that I can play it in my course breaks

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Or even during the course because it's low brain usage

shadow sundial
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Im 5 hours into Soulstone. Loving it. Best game in the bullet hell genre I’ve found so far. Looks like it’s gonna be a long grind to get unlocks

warped wren
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Yep

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The skill tree is huge it seems

eternal sky
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ill show you my tree rn

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@warped wren

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tldr you want to basicly invest enough points to get the global benefit nodes

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minor soulstones is like the main hold back

hearty jewel
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Man the electric motorcycles are gonna take over soon.

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Everyone’s been saying how good the Zero bikes are except they cost too much and the battery doesn’t last long enough. Battery still sucks at 200 mile range, prolly 70ish going ham, on their super bike model but the price was like $26k and now it’s $15k OTD at my local dealer.

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I wanna ride one because the torque values don’t even seem real lol.

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An R1M makes like 90-95lbs of torque and the zero super bike makes 130…idek how that translates to being rideable but I wanna feel it 😂

warped wren
eternal sky
placid yarrow
vagrant topaz
warped wren
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How many hours did it take to get to this stage?

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20? 30? 50?

eternal sky
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im at 34 hrs

warped wren
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I see

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Sounds great for $10

simple needle
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Soulstone survivors is almost good , only if there's a challenge

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The passive skill tree of that game is crazy

eternal sky
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i mean survivor likes really dont have challenge

shadow sundial
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The challenge is keeping your enemy modifiers scaled beyond your current power to push yourself

stable shore
tawny sand
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the woes of being dps

stable shore
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litteraly the only job you can't play while sleeping

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that's probably why it's popular omegalul

near hedge
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could try setting up a party finder

stable shore
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about to shoot myself rn

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i wanted to reach 76 tonight wich i could totally have done if it wasn't for that 2h queue

near hedge
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you could also try data center travel, to one thats a bit more active currently

stable shore
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how do i do that

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you mean changing world ?

near hedge
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nah. queueing up pulls from every world on your data center

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im not entirely sure how to do a data center travel. im on a congested world, so i never have to

stable shore
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i'm gonna grab a snack and it's gonna proc and i'll have to start over

near hedge
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100%

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every fucking time

stable shore
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i progressed in shadowbringer

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as you said it's far superior in storytelling

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i'm guessing there will be a big plot twist soon, but so far i love the build up

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coupled with the fact i unlock all my interesting skills one by one, it feels amazing

near hedge
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how far have you gotten into it

stable shore
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i just beat the fairy boss

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that's where i am rn

near hedge
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oohh okay

stable shore
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i really wanna improve with samurai, i'm trying to do 0 rotation mistakes in any situation but it takes time to learn

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especially on boss i'm not familiar with, since i must also learn it

near hedge
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could just hit up a target dummy and practice

stable shore
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that wouldn't help

near hedge
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i always have to do that, to practice the openers

stable shore
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my dummy rotation is perfect already, the difficulty is adapting in battle

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if i am forced to pause my rotation, if some cd gets delayed etc

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but i'm improving, slowly but surely

near hedge
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yeeee youll get there. this is about when the dungeons start having actual mechanics in them, and start to have bogus shit you havnt seen before

stable shore
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it's starting slowly ngl

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i did 2 sbh dungeons and i can already feel they are much harder than the ones of other expansions

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though i would say more confusing for the second one i did

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it was particulary difficult once i understood it

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if at level 90 i still need practice, i'll spam some level 90 dungeons to train

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maybe it sounds weird, but i feel like i'll do much less rotation mistakes in fight once i unlock more skills

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what bugs me rn is there are still significant downtime between big skills and i tend to easily get distracted and mess up some combos after

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with more combos and CD i'll generally be more carefull

near hedge
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ye once theres actual mechanic, and you have a real rotation going. everything just clicks and its smooth sailing.

stable shore
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yup it's what i'm thinking

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the mistakes i'm doing aren't colossal, it can be applying my 1min dot a few seconds too late, using meiko shisui on yukikaze when i don't have to thus losing 1 gcd of a better skill, not using my ranged attack immediately when i can etc

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still it annoys me

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also a bad habit i must correct : i should adapt my skills to my position and not my position to my skills if that makes sense

near hedge
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like practice using skills only when in the correct positional?

stable shore
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nah, i do that but not the correct way

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basically i must use 3 specific skills to use my big attack, 1 requires side and 1 requires back

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there isn't a priority between those twoi

near hedge
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for positionals, just stand on the corner where the little circle on the ground ends. then you just strafe left and right. and you never have to really move again

stable shore
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yeah i know that but i took a bad habit

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of waiting last moment to move

near hedge
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ah i getcha

stable shore
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and for exemple moving to use a back attack while i could just stay on the side and use a side one instead

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while in reality it's extremely simple, right after i do let's say my back attack, i can just go to the side because i won't need to be on the back for 15sec

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cause when i must position quickly like that i can panic and mess up something

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either way, lot of improvements to make

hearty jewel
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Not me or my bike, it’s an MT07 but that’s basically how my MT09 feels in A mode 1st gear now. It’s a fucking RIOT. I love it so much 😍

junior oyster
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Didn't even realise I got an achievement lol

junior oyster
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Finally a win!

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More important I was able to kill transient with defect. That's kinda hard if not with silent or watcher for me

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Mostly really good relics and lots of good cards

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Snecko really delivered this run

shadow sundial
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every game needs a slider like this

junior oyster
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Especially poe

tame dome
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Definetly agree.

stable shore
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would need a mute option too for them too

tame dome
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"hey google how do i disable my friends theyre annoying"

junior oyster
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I don't like playing with others except in campaign and early mapping

eager ridge
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Or wait did you mean a different type of disable?

tame dome
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Lol, that got me good.

eternal sky
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went from like lvl 40-87 from that game tho

opal flower
warped wren
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Have to say, Soulstone Survivors has an excellent sense of progression

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I just unlocked the character specific trees and holy hell

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I feel like I've just started unlocking the game

eternal sky
tame dome
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Do love me a summon build. Easy curse 48 completion.

shadow sundial
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mistakes were made

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"new player, trying out a new class. no upgrades. T5 curses were doable on my Spellblade, i bet i could level this Arcane Weaver on T6 and progress my map"

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two minutes into the game: "i immediately regret this decision"

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38 minutes of pure hell. saved only by getting an extra two dashes somewhat early. also arcane shield doing god's work in there too

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i refused to surrender the match and lower the difficulty

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thats a pretty hearty level jump though haha. P21 to P72 in one map

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i dont think i blinked more than a dozen times during that fucking hellscape

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i ended up shuffling some skills halfway through because my usual strat of stacking vuln/expose and letting a massively buffed Arcane Blade annihilate everything didn't have time to ramp upgrades

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ended up just circle-dash-kiting around geometry and letting whatever could hit them hit them

eternal sky
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thats basicly the gameplay of the game

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run in a circle till the bosses are dead

shadow sundial
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i was dominating everything up until this T6 curse run. i'm still leveling all of my maps... i'm at T4/5 on them

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i didnt realize how fucking hard it scaled from 4-5-6

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it was the first time i had bosses live for more than maybe 10-15 seconds

eternal sky
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just wait till ur kiting like 6 bosses

shadow sundial
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thats what i was doing that entire match

tame dome
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Yeah and (spoiler alert) it gets worse. Much worse.

shadow sundial
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i kept trickle killing enough trash for the next wave of bosses to be ready to spawn. and yeah i found out that six is the max it allows in (assuming it's six... as soon as one died another entered the arena)

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i barely have any runes or skill tree unlocked though, so that should help a little bit later on

eternal sky
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debuffs go brrr

warped wren
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Does over 100% crit chance help?

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I have 1 character left to unlock, the Death Knight

shadow sundial
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yes, you can double/triple crit

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multiattack also scales (although with diminishing returns after 100% multi)

warped wren
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Ohh

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I see

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So far I haven't read any guides or builds or anything, just kinda winging it

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Not even checked the wiki

shadow sundial
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anything over 100% multi is 0.4x as effective i think (for triple/quad casts)

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i havent looked up any guides or anything but i did scan the wiki for some basic mechanics stuff

warped wren
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Wow I should have read the mechanics page a lot sooner

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Taught me quite a bit

shadow sundial
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yeah the basic stuff like crit/multi scaling is worth knowing

warped wren
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I had no clue that crits scaled everything

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And the diminishing returns on multicast

shadow sundial
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yeah this isnt a "fuck yo DoTs" crit situation like most other games heh

junior oyster
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So dots in this game can crit?

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Whichever game you are on about lol

hot crown
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Soulstone Survivors, apparently.

junior oyster
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Oh I guess they moved on from whatever the other game they were playing lol

tawny sand
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i wonder if now that microsoft owns actiblizz, if they'll bring back Blizzard's rts games. Microsoft seems to be doing a good job with AoE 2, 3, and 4. 2 and 4 seems to get funded tournaments too. and they have the Age of Mythology remake next year(?)

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i guess first is redeeming warcraft 3 reforged tho

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if that happens lol

simple needle
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No they are not

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A horse mount in WOW earns them more money than the entirety of StarCraft 2 history

junior oyster
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Unless they introduce horse mounts in starcraft 3

simple needle
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How would that change, its not the mount that earns the money, there's just wayy bigger player base in wow for them to even consider buying a mount

junior oyster
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I was being sarcastic

tawny sand
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idk, people thought age of empires was dead

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wouldn't surprise me if they do an age of mythology 2 either

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but age of empires 4 wasn't trying to do "muh esports" like starcraft 2 and overwatch did, it's just a fun game with good multiplayer features

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ppl play AoE2 more tho i think, with 3 being the lowest

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and AoE2 still sees support, i think this year they added a better spectator mode for streaming matches. I think at least Warcraft 3 could see a relaunch

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cause reforged has some garbage features and tons of issues

simple needle
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Imma wait for 2 or 3 more blizzcon before I hope for something

tawny sand
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ah yeah i didn't mean this year or next

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there was a survey a while back about a warcraft 3 soft relaunch, but idk what happened to it

shadow sundial
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woo first C48 complete! on muh slashy spellblade

ember lake
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@waxen sonnet Gotta stick to the rules I enforce lol

I'm just looking forward to using Torren to ske-daddle away when I aggro a bunch of mobs I didn't want to fight, just cause shiny loot behind them xD

waxen sonnet
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Oh shit we were in memes weren't we

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Ooooops

ember lake
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Whatever I find and works for me, first playthrough I think

waxen sonnet
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Good choice!

ember lake
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I know there are items everyone says you 'need' but honestly half the fun in these games are doing your own thing and infuriating other players by succeeding through ignorance xD much like I play LE lol

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I'll post my Day 1 drip when I clock on tomorrow haha

waxen sonnet
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Besides the base upgrade materials and flask improving materials, there isn't anything you NEED

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You can make a build out of almost anything with enough skill and patience

ember lake
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Exactly! I've watched so many 'Can you beat ER only using X?' runs that shouldn't work but do, if you're persistent enough lol

Bushy and Lil' Aggy are my go-to's but they've been Bingo'ing lately so I'm finding more and more creators to watch!

waxen sonnet
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My advice would be to not watch too much as the first time through a souls game is magical and one you will never get back. I don't want it ruined for you. But that's me, you do what makes you happy 😉

ember lake
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I've never watched a full let's play - only funny/joke runs like 'Can I beat the first boss without saying the letter E?' which are heavily edited down for youtube engagement so plenty of the game is still unseen to me!

opaque wyvern
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For Elden Ring challenge runs i strongly recommend GinoMachino on youtube, hes a very good player

ember lake
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I've seen them pop up in shorts! Doing a hitless run where they aggro'd a guys dogs into killing the boss for him (and subsequently themselves) without even going through the fog door xD

opaque wyvern
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yeah that sounds like Gino haha XD

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i think a month ago he posted a run called the god run, 7 Souls games without getting hit

ember lake
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I've heard of those people - madness lol!

I'm watching Bushy do a deathless all Boss randomizer, just died ||at 159/165 to a tall troll stuck inside a pagoda in a tree|| 🥲

shut gale
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Halls of torment > poe man @eternal sky

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This was the game i was looking for a few months ago that i thought was vampire survivors hahaha

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Got grim dawn too. Im enjoying these more than the boring sht triple a games lately

opaque wyvern
shadow sundial
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@eternal sky this thing is doing work

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made it to overlord 5 on my first full-curse attempt, mmmm i love this game

warped wren
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I have been levelling Beastmaster

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Enjoying the summons

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Though Legionnaire is pretty poggers too

shadow sundial
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i started working up necro a bit

eternal sky
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Summons are giga

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Like skele mages crank

eternal sky
shadow sundial
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yeah necro feels like it takes a long time (like well into 2nd/3rd map) to ramp up, but it feels beefy when it's going. meanwhile my spellblade is annihilating like 5 mins into the game

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the spellblade's mastery feels amazing. when i'm cranking i can keep it going for awhile

warped wren
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Only problem with Beastmaster is chasing those footprints

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Can get dangerous sometimes

warped wren
copper pawn
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anyone played slormancer before can give me some opinion, it's on sale so I may consider grabbing it

stable shore
#

emet selch sure is hard to read, i can't tell what he is up to at all

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my guess is it's gonna be a super late endgame villain so it might be too early to know, there will be like a billion plot twist in between

tawny sand
stable shore
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i can already tell he is by far superior to every villains until now

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bro means buisness

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also now we are being helped by gaius

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interesting developpement

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it's the person i expected the least to be alive

shadow sundial
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huzzah, all done with the curse unlocking

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now to go explore some more classes

rugged island
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nice

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you have DK yet?

shadow sundial
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i have all of the heroes unlocked, just havent played more than 3 really

copper pawn
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no one still play slormancer here?

warped wren
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I'm still in the 5s mostly

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this is what my character set looks like rn lol

tawny sand
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i prefer chronicon

warped wren
copper pawn
tawny sand
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oh i have no idea about slormancer's endgame

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chronicon's reminded me of d3's

solar tiger
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I was very disappointed by chronicon’s end game

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Especially the gearing

copper pawn
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dunno if I should buy slor now or wait till 1.0

rugged island
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Builds are very diverse

hot crown
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I see Soulstone Survivors being talked about here too.

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Interesting.

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Is it that good?

rugged island
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its a good one imo but a bit repetitive

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it has good build variety, as well as good 3d graphics

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but the gameplay loop feels sameish after a bit

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btw tip for anyone playing soulstone: just camp a corner of the map for much faster XP gain rates and favorable enemy spawn locations

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thats how you also beat the timed challenges

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and the same reason I find the game quite boring bc once you understand corner camping is meta, and thats the best way to play the game, it becomes so utterly boring to play

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so you know that I know what im talking about. I had this game 100%'d at least as of June

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Maybe one day you guys will try Rogue Genesia and understand what I mean by it being my favorite roguelite survivor 😛

hot crown
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How often does Soulstone receive updates?

tawny sand
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and before that sept. 8

maiden widget
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tried genesia but didnt really like it too much after a bit of time

hot crown
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I wonder how they mitigate it, if they actually want to.

tawny sand
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dunno, i don't play soulstone

shadow sundial
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i'm having fun playing SS without dumb stuff like corner camping. it's actually a little bit of a challenge to dodge everything, when you have stuff cranked way up. i enjoy it that way. i have zero reason to kill the fun by intentionally playing in a non-interactive way for a few % more XP gain

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i think you guys misunderstand and misinterpret what "meta" means

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with that being said, i'm sure the devs can find a simple way to fix this. i've never done corner camping, but i can imagine how it works. you turn off any curses that cause the random area damage spawns (like meteor), get a long range fast casting insta kill build ramped up, and just let it go. one easy fix for that is to add a mandatory (no toggle) curse, similar to meteor, that does zero damage but has large knockback.. boom, no more semi-afk corner camping

placid yarrow
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I agree but also people will always optimize the fun out of the game, kinda like how it feels like everyone and their grandma is playing either fc frostbite rm or the volatile zombie build lol

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Some people might find them really fun but I also think a lot of people only play them because they're strong

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But yeah i wouldn't really blame the player basically. It's inevitable, the devs should try their best to prevent stuff like that

shadow sundial
placid yarrow
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Yeah I mean it's usually the vocal minority that are "meta slaves"

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The big majority of players just do whatever is fun for sure

shadow sundial
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yep. places like reddit or discord are not indicative of what the full playerbase looks like

placid yarrow
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Yup

waxen sonnet
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They are the ones that ask in discord "what's the best build right now, link guide plz"

shadow sundial
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most people dont use the social media (or at least do it in a lurk-only mode)

placid yarrow
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It's kinda like how while D4 had fuck all for twitch viewership it still had millions of active users

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It's just different divisions of players kinda

shadow sundial
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yep, and i dont think it should be on the dev's shoulders in any game to "fix" that

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if something is obviously broken and is affecting competitive/ladder play, then yes fix that

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you can't (or shouldn't) really stop players from optimizing the fun out of a game

placid yarrow
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Yeah like if something is just straight up better, just because not everyone is doing it doesn't mean it shouldn't be fixed

shadow sundial
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that's a personal choice, and those players need to mature in their approach to this hobby, and someday that'll probably happen for them

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40-something year old me has a very different mindset than 18 year old me, or 25 year old me

placid yarrow
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I mean while I do agree, it does detract from the regular players experience to see someone doing like 3000 corruption while they're at like 500. I know that's kinda immature and people should just ignore it but it is what it is right

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I'm making an LE example but I'm not really talking about LE

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Just all games in general

shadow sundial
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yep. and for LE, at least here in discord, you will quickly see other players jump in and remind newbies that high corruption pushing is (or can be) a slow, boring slog, with less-than-linear gains in loot

placid yarrow
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Like obviously a good optimized build should perform better than a none thought out slapped together one

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And I'm not saying it lands on the devs shoulders to make them equal

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I'm just saying that it's best to try to mitigate the feeling of inadequacy that some people get from looking up at others

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Since otherwise they can get discouraged and stop playing

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But yeah, pushing corruption in LE is brain melting lol, idk if I'm even gonna be bothered to go to 1k

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I know I can

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That's enough for me usually

shadow sundial
#

there's probably an equal number of newbies that look at a high corruption screenshot and get excited instead; excited to work on their build/gear and get to that point

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you can't design a game that accomodates every personality/approach

placid yarrow
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Yeah true but how many will make a build equally good to FC rm, they'll make their build, grind long and hard for good gear just to realize that their build just kinda sucks in comparison (this is obviously not everyone, I'm specifically talking about the people I was mentioning earlier)

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I think we basically agree but im kinda playing devil's advocate

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And tbh on the topic of corruption pushing I feel like it wouldn't loose much value if they took out the time aspect entirely

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It should just let you go really high quickly and give incentive for it

shadow sundial
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yep agreed. they could massively boost the corruption you get from a Shade kill and let you get closer to your builds effective limit

placid yarrow
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Yeah like legit they could 5x it and I don't think it'd be a bad thing at all

shadow sundial
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it could follow similar scaling to how the bonus stability scales with corruption. start low and cap around 600-800c or so

placid yarrow
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True yeah

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I asked Mike about it the other day and he wasn't sure if they were adjusting the corruption gain speed

rugged island
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You are also forced to use that strategy to get specific achievements, because it's the only way to clear fast enough, and those achievements unlock new weapons and skills to use, so it's not as simple of a choice as your claim states

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It's just poor design by their devs. Yeah, you could just do it a few times, unlock the stuff, then play back to normal running around, but for me seeing how much worse that was kinda killed it for me

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The obvious choice is changing the spawning system so you don't need to do it in the first place

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And for what it's worth, I've never one time playing LE used a build guide or asked what meta is, I've come to my conclusions by playing every single class up thru emp monoliths

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and I thought you would have known that too considering how active we all are...

shadow sundial
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i wasnt accusing you of doing that

rugged island
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didn't say you did

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but the convo kinda went that direction

shadow sundial
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that directly implies that you thought that 😛

rugged island
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I thought prim did

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it doesn't really matter tho? it's a small thing lol

shadow sundial
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@waxen sonnet was referring to the brainless metaslaves

rugged island
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yeah I got that now

waxen sonnet
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Lol am I pinged for drama??

rugged island
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yes

shadow sundial
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yessir

rugged island
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you're under arrest

shadow sundial
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i only ping for two things, and drama is one of them

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the other one is when i need to get Judd or Mike's attention like immediately, because i have a Very Important Question That Must Be Answered Now

waxen sonnet
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Oh about my meta comment. Apples you and I have had our disagreements but I always have thought they were good arguments had in good faith with someone who is not a troll

tawny sand
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dragon's dogma 2 presentation today at 1 pm pst i think if anyone is interested in that game

rugged island
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Lol we're good prim

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I just misunderstood what yall were talking about

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it's not a problem

shadow sundial
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oh, i think it's a big problem! nerd slapfight goooo

shadow sundial
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that is 100% what i imagine every time i mention that, thank you

rugged island
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I tried getting my wife to watch napoleon dynamite (she never seen it) and only made in 20 minutes before she was too bored

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hurts >.>

shadow sundial
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rough, man. may need to find a new wife

rugged island
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yeah did consider it

waxen sonnet
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I only like it for nostalgia. I watched it the first time with my best friend and we had a blastie. Going back and watching it solo though...

shadow sundial
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that was our main deployment movie on my 2nd ship

waxen sonnet
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It's just...not good objectively. But I love it

rugged island
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it's not a movie you watch solo

waxen sonnet
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Truth

rugged island
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it's a movie you watch with friends and make fun of

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while watching

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it is bad but I thought that was the point lol

shadow sundial
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it's bad in a really good/funny way

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which makes it net positive/good

shadow sundial
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man this scaling gets kinda nasty

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further i've gotten yet so far though. started this match as a P20 Legionnaire, just to level it. haven't died yet 😛

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i feel like i could take this combo (enabled through 1 passive rune / arcane skills) to super high scaling on any class

eternal sky
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its okay

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def a controller game tho

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basicly have a cd and 2 semi spamable skills so far on this class im playing

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warrior feels meh

shadow sundial
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P20->P120 in one match

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a ramped up Bloodlust buff is ridiculous. i had 82% CDR there at the end

eternal sky
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yea bloodlust goes crazy

eternal sky
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overall from a few hrs of playing its worth the price

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controller is giga auto pilot tho

junior oyster
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I enjoyed slormancer more than hero siege lol

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Gotta get back to it someday

placid yarrow
#

I got slormancer when it first came out and it was really barebones back then

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I have to check it out again

stable shore
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poggies i vastly improved my samurai rotation

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i did a bit of experimentation and i found a 3 gcd filler i can use to have all my 1min and 2min bursts lined up

stable shore
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@near hedge i need an info, i just learnt the food don vauthry give to the people of eulmore and around eulmore is purgator meat. and then alphinaud says "remember when that guy told us many people entered eulmore, but very few leave ?". is it implied vauthry makes purgator meat out of people who transformed themsleve in purgator due to purgator meat diet ?

near hedge
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lol wtf is pugator

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oh wait. you play in french. in english its called meol. its not really a meat or anything. at least in english, its elluded to more like a bread

solar tiger
#

they bake people into bread?

near hedge
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umm not exactly

solar tiger
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pretty dark

near hedge
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idk if i really wanna explain what it is due to it being a big spoiler to later

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how do you mark something as spoiler?

vagrant topaz
#

||fh||

vagrant topaz
stable shore
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idk the actual english name

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i just tried to translate

near hedge
near hedge
# stable shore well in french it's made out of those white monsters

the white monster things, are corrupted souls of people. the different aetheric affixes are balanced within our souls, but whenever the balance gets out of whack and leans more to one affix, then your soul becomes corrupted with that affinity. so the meol is food thats feed to the people to tip the balance into the light affinity thus turning them into the light monsters. its more like pure light food made from the light monsters, to make more light monsters.

vagrant topaz
near hedge
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nah. im using the flatpak for linux

vagrant topaz
near hedge
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i dont remember how much of it is a direct 1:1 of the windows client

vagrant topaz
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Select the text and hover it with your mouse

near hedge
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oohhh i see.

vagrant topaz
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Or use 2 of theses |

near hedge
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so it just automatically places the double |

eternal sky
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man ive been using better discord for awhile forgot how ugly default disco is

near hedge
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lol thats basically the same

eternal sky
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false

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and wrong

stable shore
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but does that means they make light food out of people they transform on purpose

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to feed people to make more monsters

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cause it's implied, but not explicitely said

near hedge
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yeee. you figure that pretty soon after where you are

stable shore
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okay

near hedge
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its pretty much a slave class society, and whenever you outlive your patrons need, you get turned into those things

stable shore
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fucking hell

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the entirety of eulmore is sheer nightmare fuel

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it was already really ominous when i first visited but it escalated a lot

near hedge
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lol yeah its sketch af

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it gets better though soontm

stable shore
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i can't wait

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ardbert is truly the bro

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there are many wholesome scene with him

stable shore
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the most unexpected plot twist happened, turns out don vauthry is actually hot

faint mauve
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kinda gross

near hedge
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ikr. couldnt believe he was acutally a babe

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and he just chose to look like a fat whiny slob

faint mauve
#

oo nice

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really have enough to buy my medium house but i need alot of time to design it anyway

stable shore
#

so our character goes "i have to stop him" instead of "i can fix him"

shadow sundial
clever hollow
stable shore
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it may be yes

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also my boy zenos is back to get his OG body, i hope he is gonna obliterate that cringelord edilibus and show him how he doesn't need an OP body to be strong

near hedge
stable shore
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ain't no way zenos gets dominated by edilibus

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he is gonna beat his sorry ass

near hedge
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lol about that

stable shore
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i mean if he loses it's kinda justified

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not having his actual body is a gigantic nerf

tawny sand
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starts at 22:35

desert jasper
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Can't wait to play that tbh
too bad it comes with denuvo though

near hedge
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well just pay empress 500 bucks real quick lul

copper pawn
#

I'm really confused how many games are being discussed here at the same time

junior oyster
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Yea I miss having 3 separate channels

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Lobby, arpg and other games t.t

shadow sundial
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i asked the mods several times to rename this to "Other Games discussion" and/or have a separate offtopic channel

lethal bane
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I keep asking them to rename it to inferior topics

waxen sonnet
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I petitioned to call it unregulated drama

rugged island
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OT should just be a forum channel like how feedback and suggestions are

rugged island
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junior oyster
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So changing the name to other games is kinda pointless

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Too bad EHG don't give a damn

eternal sky
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2k artists 4k songs

rugged island
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206k wtf

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mine is 8500

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you have spotify playing 12 hours a day??

tawny sand
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that's close to 5 months of listening straight

eternal sky
tawny sand
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and i thought i listened to a lot, i usually have my headphones on all night when i'm at home

eternal sky
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Yea music enjoyer here

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Whats up

placid yarrow
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Mf listened to 20 hours of music in one day

tawny sand
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top .10% jesus

ember lake
# shadow sundial i asked the mods several times to rename this to "Other Games discussion" and/or...

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placid yarrow
haughty hazel
#

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shut gale
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Ive never played any dragon dogma but ive heard of it plenty of times

waxen sonnet
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DDDA is one of my favorite games of all time

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It's. So. Good

haughty hazel
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u can pre order it

shut gale
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I dont see the point of preorder tbh. But I also did that for d4 so omegalul

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Isnt pre-order used to be for stores so when they run out of stock

faint mauve
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if your gonna buy anyway sure, but you'd want to know more

warped wren
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Tfw when preordering in the current day and age feels like playing slots in a casino

near hedge
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simple solution. dont preorder

eternal sky
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@pseudo tinsel ur builds just bad

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there really isnt much to discuss

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if im being real

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5k phys hit just wont work

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like even this naked pf build pconc

pseudo tinsel
eternal sky
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has a higher phys hit

pseudo tinsel
eternal sky
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thats also a 5l poison concoc

pseudo tinsel
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my build relies on evasion and ghost shroud

eternal sky
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that wont matter

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you get a 630 buffer from ghost shrouds

pseudo tinsel
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and as i mentioned yet again, its an experimental build that still needs work done with it to get to a better state

eternal sky
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there isnt anything to work on tho

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you got a +2 chest

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ur at a 6l with lvl 21 alt quals

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u got 2 voids and badge

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also lvl 94

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the builds just bad

pseudo tinsel
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"bad"

eternal sky
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its not "bad"

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its literally just bad

pseudo tinsel
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says you

eternal sky
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says pob

twilit mountain
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Thorag, disengage. This is all Gav does.

eternal sky
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does what?

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i see 5k phys max hit on a melee build basicly

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i look the other way

pseudo tinsel
eternal sky
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you cannot improve this

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your weps your ammy your boots your body arm

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are all locked in

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you cant squeeze anything in like that

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this guy is literally you

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but an actual build

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that guys phys hits borked tho

pseudo tinsel
eternal sky
#

exactly

pseudo tinsel
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i get 1 - 1.5mil damage on average hit without damage over time or ailments

eternal sky
#

this guy does 3mil dps per second with ignite '

pseudo tinsel
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so? why does that matter?

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what if i want to use direct damage?

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did that ever occur to you?

eternal sky
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why though?

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hit dps needs to be like 4x the amount

pseudo tinsel
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because its direct instant damage

eternal sky
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like u need to be doing

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8 mil per hit

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lol

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for it to feel the same as a 3mil dps ignite build

pseudo tinsel
#

the damage i deal is on a 0.6 second cooldown (not accounting for the extra cooldown reduction i get from having enemies nearby) which for bosses would be an extra 100% cooldown reduction

eternal sky
#

ur going to be dead before you kill the boss

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its not like ur 1 shotting the bosses at all

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you have 5k phys hit lol

pseudo tinsel
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that should be easy to solve with some more work and you are not meant to just stand and facetank shit either

eternal sky
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also ur at 72% evade chance

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its not that easy

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phys hit is hard to get if ur not armour by default

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you need to use like light coil + double taken as helm

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and taste of hate

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or cloak of flames also

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if ur not armour based

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since soo many items in your build is locked in you cant really do much about that

pseudo tinsel
#

i might also mention that this build isnt meant for the uber bosses, its only meant as a speedfarmer on T16 maps

eternal sky
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even then its bad

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like

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i wouldnt even use this to kill guardians n stuff

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1 single mino rock would just kill you

pseudo tinsel
eternal sky
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speed farming maps these days is just doing maven witniss and doing invites

pseudo tinsel
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it should do fine against normal T16 map bosses that are not guardians

eternal sky
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still gonna take on avg like what

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12 blinks? to kill a map boss

pseudo tinsel
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where does 12 come from?

eternal sky
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sorry 8 blinks if the boss has 13mil hp

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ur gonna be sitting there trying to kill some of these rare monsters forever

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like just cross out exped essences

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also if they are not frost bombed and frostbited ur avg hit tanks to 900k

pseudo tinsel
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ok, so what? ive mentioned it several times, and ill do it again, THIS IS A EXPERIMENTAL BUILD

eternal sky
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i couldnt not care if its experimental you said it looked good on paper

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it literally doesnt

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if it doesnt look good in pob it sure aint gonna look good ingame

pseudo tinsel
eternal sky
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ur thinking too deep into the cd

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it might take upwards of like

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30 frost blinks

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to kill some of these rare mobs

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also you dont have 30 shock im psure

pseudo tinsel
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30 seems a bit of an overexaggeration but still

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so what?

eternal sky
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soo now ur under 800k avg hit

pseudo tinsel
eternal sky
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yea that doesnt matter

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shocks based on the hit

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it gives u a min of 15 shock

pseudo tinsel
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well first hit will be lower damage since first hit wont have the shock effect, but second hit should have full damage

eternal sky
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if you dont have curse + bomb + them being already shocked

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ur at 675k avg hit

warped wren
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Just saw the POB and read the discussion

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Gotta agree with Gav

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You might find this build fun, but a lot of people would not touch it with a ten foot pole

eternal sky
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just soo many actual builds

warped wren
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Which is alright, I keep trying to make Dom Blow not feel shit every few leagues, everyone needs a passion project

eternal sky
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that use 2x void

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and a badge

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that work

warped wren
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Real shocker: Worb with the exact same setup + IL would probably feel way better

eternal sky
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tbh domblow is fine its just the intitial snowball

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and SRS is currently op

warped wren
eternal sky
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idk it seemed fine when i tried it out

warped wren
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It's like

eternal sky
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its just not op like SRS

warped wren
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It's FANTASTIC at leaguestart, without a doubt. Even before the giga sentinel and 3x aura relics

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But as soon as you start doing even lightly juiced content and start running into some mongo rares

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You start getting fucked over hard

eternal sky
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its literally the ramping

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thats the issue

warped wren
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Yeah

eternal sky
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not being able to kill the initial rares

warped wren
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Because the rares wipe out your army sometimes and then you just swat at them and die

eternal sky
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ive played basicly every minion build at this point besides like

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soulwrest

warped wren
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My DB Guardian in Crucible had like 85% res, ~70ish block and spell block, and it still felt like ass in t16s

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Well not always ass

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When you had a good run going with Vaal DB dudes stomping it was great

eternal sky
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having perma vaal db

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is really dirty ngl tho

warped wren
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But every couple maps some stupid rare would spawn and screw me over completely

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Plus the mechanic mobs were idiotically overtuned so that added to the frustration

eternal sky
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another issue is bosses like shaper and sirus

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that just teleport around

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same with maven

warped wren
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Idk man they just need to make the fucking sentinels spawn on rare hit and it solves at least the mapping issue

eternal sky
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you literally just dont get to play the game

warped wren
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It'll never be a good bosser but at least gimme mapping

eternal sky
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and yea it needs to be rare hit atleast

warped wren
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It's such a feelsgood skill in such a feelsbad spot

eternal sky
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they just caught up with nerfing minions besides buffing srs and ailments

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since metamorph league

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all minion builds that work are currently /good/

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specs spiders srs abso

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skele mages are nuts too

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like skele mage guard

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guardians fucking disgusting now for league starting

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free ride to red maps

warped wren
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well that was just silly easy

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the damage was so idiotically high that it literally just became a red circle dodging sim

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I was just rotating my cursor around the screen and everything would just vaporize instantly

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7-bosses per wave? more like 7 seconds or less per wave

old coral
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henry kissinger is dead

faint mauve
shadow sundial
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(I’m not there either hah)

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But I did just start unlocking paladin, and I discovered that’s it’s basically got the same build my spellblade did, except with more/better of the stuff. So that’s going to be fun

tawny sand
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dragonball fighterz got rollback if anyone plays that game

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i wasn't a big DBFZ guy, but thought i'd mention it

viral galleon
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Cool, dmd is really fun and I'm glad to see what's coming next. I was a bit disappointed when I realized that there wasn't an archer in the line up

warped wren
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I could have pushed to O4, maybe even O5, but t had reached the stage where it was 1hit KO but no challenge other than that

shadow sundial
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i've considered turning off the pillars and meteor curses to cut down on the "red circle dodging simulator" effect at higher scaling. i have no issue with needing to dodge enemy attacks, but with those two curses on the screen is just so full of other red circle shit that it starts to get a little meh in the fun factor

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unfortunately, turning those off also turns off the rare+ material drops

warped wren
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What does one do with the special boss drops

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I just have those lying around but no recipe seems to use them

shadow sundial
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the legendary drops arent used yet (the 4th tier of weapons will use them). but if you turn off all meteor curses you also arent getting the purple drops. you can only disable the highest tier of meteors if you're still farming mats

rugged island
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Ughhhh

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I might need to reinstall soulstone

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What have you guys done

shadow sundial
rugged island
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More like "I use a hard drive and not nvme ssds"

shadow sundial
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that's the joke/meme

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also wtf my dude, 2023 and zero nvme ssd in your system?

rugged island
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Lol no I was making fun of the meme

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Of course I use one

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I am a king not a peasant

shadow sundial
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true kings of men don't uninstall games

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they just accumulate them in their steam folder until they need to buy a larger SSD, and they copy their games drive over to that

rugged island
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Might be some truth to that

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When I built my PC there were only 1tb m.2

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Now it looks like there's 4tb

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Might be time to upgrade

tawny sand
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i need to get a bigger one, i only have a 500mb one for os, and a 1tb one for games

shadow sundial
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yeah, i considered getting the 4TB samsung on black friday. i went with the 2TB instead. i have two other 1TBs

tawny sand
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i have hard drives too tho for games that don't need ssd

rugged island
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Sad I just missed black Friday and cyber Monday. But normally there's another big sale right before Christmas so I'll see if there's a deal to grab in 2/3 weeks

shadow sundial
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i have ~200TB of hard drives (14TB each) that are sitting unused here. i used to farm Chia crypto with them heh

rugged island
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Lol

shadow sundial
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my wife actually just asked me yesterday if i was going to plug my crypto rig back in. she likes it in our master bedroom, to heat the entire upstairs. her office is up there too and she's WFH

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quad 3080s, couple AMD GPUs, and the whole Chia array

rugged island
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Dang you wife is an ice cube too? Thought it was just mine

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Quad 3080s lmao

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Did you bot to buy them?

shadow sundial
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she's from florida. i'm from the northeast. she wants the house temp set to 75, i want it at 66. we compromise at 70 :/

rugged island
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I'm in Florida, 74 is the norm. Anything else is expensive as hell, and I know people who set it to 78

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They are psycho

shadow sundial
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i had 2x 3080Ti, 2x 3080, 2x 3090, 4x AMD Vega GPUs going at my peak. i didn't bot to get them, just put myself on the queue lists to buy, and did the Newegg Shuffle everyday

rugged island
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But ngl your body does acclimate... I used to love 68. Now even 72 is too cold

tawny sand
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i'm in SC and i do 68

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my feet get terribly cold tho

rugged island
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Wow. Lucky bastard. I did the Newegg shuffle everyday for literally 7 months and never got selected even once.

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I ended up ebaying a scalped one. My gpu died so I was forced. Very unhappy with doing that

shadow sundial
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i got a few of them direct from EVGA thru their queue lists. took between 2-12 months but they eventually came available. i'm still using the Kingpin 3090 (AIO watercooled one) in my main gaming rig here

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separate AIO coolers on both CPU and GPU, 360mm rads on each. system is nice and quiet 😛

tawny sand
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sad evga doesn't do gpus anymore, they were the best brand by far

rugged island
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Yup

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Wonder if Intel is going to try to be competitive with Nvidia or if their gpu was a one time thing

shadow sundial
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i had the 16c/32t AMD 5950X CPU (for crypto reasons), but recently upgraded to the 7800X3D and damn it's nice for gaming

rugged island
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I have the 7950x3d :)))

shadow sundial
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it seems like intel is making a reasonable push to be competitive in the GPU space. gonna take them awhile to have the R&D catch up

rugged island
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I need it for unreal engine tho. Buying it to play games is stupid as hell

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Nobody needs that to max any game

tawny sand
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idk, with how releases have been maybe they do lol

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there were a lot of badly performing games this year

shadow sundial
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yeah, and you have to bind core affinity to CCD1 to get the games to use the extra L3 cache

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or CCD0, however they number it

copper pawn
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is this some kind of discussion I'm too much of a peasant to understand?

rugged island
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Intel Arc had pretty solid reviews. It's not top of the line, but its fairly priced. I think if they keep going they might have something in a few years

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More players in the market is always a good thing...

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Keeps gpu prices lower and quality higher

shadow sundial
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team red/green have also had decades to refine their drivers; intel can get a lot of optimization thru that as it progresses

tawny sand
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i just have a 5600x and 3060ti 😔

rugged island
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Lul I have 3060. Not even Ti. I'm skipping this gen and will buy their 5000 whatever

copper pawn
rugged island
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Literally only USA and Taiwan are

copper pawn
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it isn't coz all of those tech embargo

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without which, cpu and gpu price would be 1/2 they are now

rugged island
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It contributes to it... but china steals usa tech and there's a lot of geopolitical reasons to not help a nation that is anti-western democracy

shadow sundial
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perhaps china should stop stealing IP and manipulating their currency, if they dont want to be held under a tech embargo

rugged island
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Yeah

shadow sundial
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and i'm leaving it there, lest this devolve into a political conversation

copper pawn
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every country steals other country's tech at 1 point of another

rugged island
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If China actually stopped stealing and played by international law then we would probably share shit with them

rugged island
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China doesn't even recognize us trademark or copyright law

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They give no fucks

copper pawn
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not just quite, but too much, US itself stole shit tons of tech from british empire, france and soviet at the time, but back then there was no international laws and shits

rugged island
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And how is that relevant to microchips keik

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You are getting a bit off topic