💰┃merchants-guild

[signal leaf]

put in erasing strik and havoc

strike

hit t7 20m+

Using havoc and redamtion is easy gold

[teal willow]

Can I do that as a mage? I thought sentinel crafting and drops would only work as sentinel

[signal leaf]

Eavry class can craft w/e

[teal willow]

I see

[signal leaf]

And same with mana on amulets

Is easy gold too

Relic mana. And smite t7

Is easy millions too

[oak moth]

Allo team T7 119 mana T6 14% mana how much would I sell it for

[signal leaf]

Helm?

[oak moth]

aye

[signal leaf]

Alot

🤑

Any spot open to craft?

On it

[oak moth]

nope its pretty much just LP slam

[marble moth]

Looking for an exalted dagger with T7 crit multi, phys dmg, shred and phys pen (interested in ones that have potential too). DM in discord.

[wide jacinth]

if me and my friend bouth are in merchants guild we should be able to trade gear right? even thou we didnt play together when it dropped?

[signal leaf]

no they changed it ppl say

but dident change the tooltip

XD

[pulsar kiln]

VK is expensive build

[rapid condor]

I'm currently nearly max CoF, but thinking of the switch to MG... how easy is it to make the money to gear your character in what you need?

[signal leaf]

dont swap

[pine tulip]

Inflation goes crazy

[signal leaf]

mg gona be rly boring now if you dont play 10h aday

[hallow nova]

You sell high value T7s / BiS implicits+T7 affixes / ultra rare uniques (Red ring, orian eye), and BiS idols. Normally we just use the loot filter from TSM.

If you are an offmeta class, you will be able to afford most of the items.

If you are VK/falconer, you still can...but may take longer time. Since their items now cost 70million and up just for the idols.

For comparison, 1LP orian now costs 500m.

[hallow nova]

I am 70hrs this season and have maxed both bleed hammerdin and was able to max my VK when i respec. What are you talking about

[rapid condor]

1LP Orian ring?

[compact patio]

Yeah, and he will just start now

It’s completely different than season start

[signal leaf]

yeep

i have made over 10b so far

but starting this late

from 0

gona be slow

[rapid condor]

Orians Sun Seal ring thing? Cos i have like 12 1LP ones of them lol

[hallow nova]

Yup (it's a necklace tho). Orian eye. Looks like a lollipop lol.

ultra rare uniques like that cost that high. So being able to drop it then selling it means you are set for the rest of the season XD.

4LP peak mountain, 2LP world splitter, etc costs 1billion now.

[signal leaf]

shattreed world

with lp1

was only 800m yday

[hallow nova]

Yeah. He just needs to hit some lucky drops. If not then gg I guess XD.

[signal leaf]

is rly easy to gear the first like 5 days

of season start

nothing rly is expensiv

[hallow nova]

Yeahh. Pefrct rolled VK echo idol costs 4m when I first sell it. I was bleed hammer.

It now costs a billion XD

[signal leaf]

yee

[teal willow]

Dang

[signal leaf]

t7 mana amus was a few mil

now like 30-40

XD

[hallow nova]

We better start season at MG then switch to CoF when we just wanna chill until the season ends

[signal leaf]

well im done now

got my shattred with lp now i can sleep

[hallow nova]

Same. Just lvling my VK to 100 and check the leaderboards where i will be placed

[signal leaf]

gold have no Value anymore

and gold cap is to low

to keep farming

[hallow nova]

Will be playing d4 then back to last epoch after hitting P200 - P220 or something : D

[signal leaf]

ye going d4 now. prob fun for a week. then is time for a break XD

[hallow nova]

Hopefully we have 1 shot builds that can ignore uber abby mechanics by that time XD and we can CoF a new character

[signal leaf]

now i jumped poe2 -Le-d4

[hallow nova]

I do hero siege - LE - D4. Really reluctant to get into Poe 2 due to massive negative reviews currently in steam

[signal leaf]

gold cap etc killing bothe LE and d4 for me

and you cant even buy and invest in stuff

to resell

all you can do is nemesis gamba for 3-4 lp items

[hallow nova]

Yeah my 600m made today was actually just from 2pcs 1LP orian lollipop. And I just played for like 3hrs running folly/temple/trove.

6 more hrs and I hit gold cap at that rate if im lucky enough lol. And can fund 5-6 offmeta chars from 1-100

[signal leaf]

yeep

[teal willow]

What corrupt level?

[worn void]

As a COF player, if I make a fresh character is it too late to get into MG?

kinda wanna see what it’s all about

[plush oyster]

go for it i did the same

[worn void]

How’s it been so far?

[plush oyster]

its pretty good chance of better lp

[worn void]

For sure, I’ll give it a shot — thank you

[hallow nova]

Im just at 729 with my ES VK. But can go higher. As per the build guide, up to 2k corruption. Just too lazy pushing

[plush oyster]

will do sir

[hallow nova]

Do we even get higher chances of LP and T7 when we push into higher corruption? I dont remember the breakpoint

[worn void]

I think the diminishing returns +1000 isn’t worth it

[worn void]

I know that 500-800 is the sweet spot

[plush oyster]

from i was told 800 - 1300+ the corruption better chance of drop

[hallow nova]

I am at 1000 last season on my mana stack Sorc (CoF as well) and actually did not feel any increase on the quality of my loot. It"s already CoF with those broken prophecies

[hallow nova]

I see maybe I'll push to 900 at most. 1000+ seems overkill even ES can still 1 shot. Since loot quality does not change that much. Might get oneshotted a lot too

[plush oyster]

be like that

[civic robin]

if they don't add a way to look for double exalted specifically i'm gonna lose it

who designed this UI, devs, please

[hollow dove]

I hit 1500 basically fine on es. Shade was a different story but maps were fine. I switched to judge paladin and 1500 even more so feels fine

[hallow nova]

I see maybe I'll push further more XD. How's the rarity scaling at that point? I swear we have corruption chart in build tools online but cant see it now

[delicate notch]

what is the gold cap?

[hallow nova]

Not sure. I think 1.75B. much like the highest price that can be entered?

[split wave]

It's about 2.1B

[earnest pendant]

Darkstride LP3 price check?

Market only has LP2, is that unique very meta?

[full forum]

I saw some up for 600m+ that are no longer there.

Second option to suloron's step for erasing strike. I prefer them actually.

Also warpath likes it too. Esp those who use void cleave

[sullen valve]

It's literally crybabies who can't handle an early access in which their build was neutered from 0.1. League also started with slightly overtuned monsters HPs at early levels and a bug on rare white mobs having 1000%+ HPs than intended. That was fixed quickly. Just try it, the campaign is awesome and endgame is acceptable in 0.2. Build balance is a bit all over the place still though.

[pearl tundra]

Can I buy t7 items on the MG and then use them to smash LP on my CoF character?

[sly quest]

As i know items from MG are usable only by MG characters, seems like it will be not possible to interact if you are not in MG

[outer quail]

if anyone is selling a lp4 traitors tongue with +2 dex, lmk price in discord pms.

[fluid carbon]

How do you guys get gold from AH if youre over 1.725b??

[fleet canopy]

Hey guys! What is the fastest way to farm "Favor"? 🙂

[pliant cradle]

how do i determine the worth of an item with a t6 and a t7 mod and an open affix?

[cosmic ravine]

Is it more worth it to spend 200m on one red ring for my build that is like…50 percent of the way but handling empowered rifts decently or should I look to maximize my cheaper other gear pieces

Also want the red ring for a weaver slot

[tall venture]

do phantom grips sell a lot?
I can't find any cheap listings. :v but hope it's not just inflated prices I'm seeing.

[tawdry garnet]

They are a must in any minion build cause it gives +2 to all minions +2/4 crit on minions

and they are common/low lv

well at least for me... I run them on anything is just free lvs

[thin wing]

first time in MG, what decides how much favor an item is worth?

[tall venture]

🤔 Yeah I've gotten like 15 so far.
But I have a tradeable 2lp one. and the mg says the cheapest is like 90m for that? Which doesn't seem right.
On legacy tho.

oh I just searched again there's one for 30m now but it's been there almost a year.

[tawdry garnet]

Idk anything about legacy

around 3 Mill u can find a 2 LP with +2 to minions

[tall venture]

I'll try lowering the price to that see if it sells

[green barn]

how are you guys keeping it up with price checking all the exalts? i feels like its getting close to impossible to price them (hand checking all the double exalts is so slow). I know a few by Memory but is there any better way?
I didnt rly find a Loot Filter that i can use to filter exalts to sell (using TSM Uber strict atm).
Thanks for any Info and Good drops to ya all! 😄

[misty tulip]

are items in Imprinter weighted differfently. like will a red ring have less chance to procc imprint than something else

[balmy obsidian]

dont play poe2

may as well play no rest for the wicked tmr

[misty tulip]

do items im wearing in my acutal character slots still work on imprinter

will they still drop?

or does it have to be in my inventory

[misty tulip]

how does MG farm Havok Runes

[split wave]

Yes

[split wave]

Also yes

[marble mason]

I'm new to this game and was wondering a a Pallarus Sacred Light with a t6 mana + mana regan and a t4 chance to shock is worth anything

[split wave]

Omce you imprint, you can delete the item if you want (though you won't be able to re-imprint later if you do that)

[misty tulip]

oh damn

guess ill just put like, something like razorfall or bloodroost in there to make gold to buy a rr

[frigid narwhal]

anyone has a good weaver tree for mg? is there a good go to

[cloud birch]

whoever sell Nihilis 1lp for 23k is a good man thanks

[visual ore]

Get the imprints and then swap based on what ur doing

For mapping pick champions, amber packsize rtc

For bossing pick all the bossing nodes

[hallow nova]

I simply dont. Whatever I feel. Just always selling T7 crit dmg, move speed, mana, +4 skills, health

15m-20m for good T7 likes flat health, mana, +4 skills, crit dmg, movespeed

Easily a 100m to 200m for good suffix combinations (e.g. hybrid health + health, which I never dropped lol). I think even a single T7 hybrid health already costs like 100m or more.

[visual ore]

Hello madeinheavej

[safe sedge]

can anyone sell me some glyph of envy please?

[deft mauve]

u cant sell that

[teal willow]

How much is immortal vice lp1

I wish AH also had online site

Like WoW let's people do. Just to look at prices

[pulsar kiln]

Orian descent 3LP what is the price?

Its my first 3 Lp

[wise perch]

Guys you have to look up what they are selling for on the bazaar. Unfortunately you cannot see the last sold price, but you can see the prices the items are listed as and use that as a base.

[pulsar kiln]

in my case nobody sell at 3 LP 😦

[midnight kernel]

just try an insane amount and wait and see

[mighty kite]

Just ingame? How oldschool! 🙂
(jk ofc)

[teal willow]

Put it at gold cap

Easy

[pulsar kiln]

Will try

[devout cypress]

is there srsly still not a way to filter out affixes on uniques?

a real nice QoL feature would also be to quickly import affixes on an item in search to help pricecheck

and.. maybe a single vendor for everything? 😅

[pulsar kiln]

Ikr single vendor would be nice

[devout cypress]

kinda mind boggling.. a single dropdown could solve it..

[teal willow]

Also left click item and it searches that item

Like WoW

Then let me narrow stats with drop down after that

[devout cypress]

also, currently theres a weird bug when you have WASD enabled where typing in the search/affix filter will trigger shortcuts

kinda annoying

[normal bison]

^ It's not just with WASD, it just does that for some reason occasionally. Also being able to click to move through parts of the merchant UI is just heckin' weird.

[devout cypress]

yesss

[velvet bone]

so, how do i do Merchant Guild right this season? the prices are insane. i am close to 85 and i cant afford anything 😄

[candid coral]

Yeah its an awkward season, price fixing or something. Should be able to buy lots and craft on it or no lp items to nemesis

[quick delta]

There should be a 3rd faction. The Crafters. They would be able to craft items from zero using specific drop materials. Their gear drop is significantly reduced, but instead they are the only ones able to drop these materials to craft items.

Dropers, Crafters and Traders. Makes perfect sense.

[safe remnant]

farm idols in tomb, easy quick money
I farm 3 mana idol today sold all 3 for about 200m already

also meta weapon with 15+ weaver can sell good money too

[velvet bone]

do you have a list for meta weapons i can search for ?

[devout cypress]

wish we could buy/sell glyphs and runes

[teal willow]

Are any idol blessings good for this.

And any special way to stack the tomb maps on map

Like placement of weaver echoes

[safe remnant]

in weaver tree - right hand side - block other echo type
top middle - increase pack size in tomb, more often you will discover cemeteries

by selling idols only (mana + mana regen or idealy mana + hp & mana)
you can make a lot of gold everyday - enough to buy pretty decent gears

[teal willow]

Nice

[devout cypress]

where are these new affix filters from 1.2.2

oh nm, they weren't bazaar specific lol

[swift dune]

How do you start MG? I feel like theres not that much worth selling until like rank 4

[safe remnant]

Weaver idols with affix like mana or health and mana sell for good price. Filter exalted gears with expensive t6&7 such as crit multi / health etc/ also farm blue or yellow gears with hybrid health

[swift dune]

yeah I figured some of those but I cant sell idols until rank 4 and exalteds higher than that, is it really just "grind it out" until then?

[safe remnant]

Just rank up fast by killing mobs and also spend your favor (list uniques for 500 gold can speed up the rank )

For example today I was lucky to get a mana/mana regen + health/mana idols drop. That alone is over 100m

Not even good roll

Meanwhile I still enjoy sell normal items for 50k to 500k

[proper slate]

I would not start MG at this point. kinda bricked vs. COF with the gold dupes

[devout cypress]

lot of work needs to be done on bazaar too

kinda clunky atm

one good perk though is you can get your endgame gear much faster.. plus i didn't have much fun doing CoF prophecies last season

[azure mauve]

why again in this season mg economy its fuc*** up?

[safe remnant]

Economy is fine to me. You just need to sell some idols and that’s enough to buy very good end game gears. Ofc not lp4 good but lp3 level

COF last season I just quit at end, keep farming and hope for lp4 to drop, got tons of gears I won’t use . With MG at least it gives me fun to trade

[azure mauve]

i know how to make money bcs i have 670kk right now

but its not normal that i sell 4 idols and got that much money

i know there is a rmt

[safe remnant]

Yep but it is what it is

[devout cypress]

RMT exists in all arpgs

[safe remnant]

I still sell items for 50k Evan though I have close to 900kk now

Just for fun

[swift dune]

I have cof on my main I'm just having no luck with some stuff so I figured an alt in MG would be nice

[safe remnant]

One beauty with MG is every good item drop has some meaning

If I don’t need it I can sell it , that’s what I like

[proper slate]

ya its a great concept. And in theory it should be much easier to get very rare items you need with MG. The problem is those items effectively no longer exist anymore in MG because the gold inflation has caused their value to effectively go well beyond the listing cap. This means that every time one is listed, it is instantly bought (usually by someone scripting).

[undone prism]

I love MG as a casual gamer, I can get everything I need pretty fast to keep pushing corruption

[safe remnant]

Also easy to collect gears for my alt

[undone prism]

Yup! Exactly!

[teal willow]

How

What I farm? Idols?

I'm casual and don't get much drops

I feel I'm playing a different game than some of these MG ballers

[sullen valve]

MG is faster than CoF till 10/10 harbi in my opinion

[undone prism]

I think its because I also played last season so I know how MG works I suppose. So casual in a sense of playtime, but not new to the game.

Also run a filter from the sanctum market that seems to weed out a ton of stuff

Luck can play a roll as well

[sullen valve]

still doesn't weed out enough at 1000 corr though xD

[devout cypress]

use a MG specific filter, any idols that show up will be worth $$

focus on weaver echos

[undone prism]

1k corruption lol, thats way beyond me haha. I'm casually scrubbing the 300 corruption mark dude haha

[teal willow]

I gotta pick a faster build

[undone prism]

I'm the tyical void knight warpath neanderthal lol, not too fast, but not too slow

[teal willow]

Mage feels slow

[sullen valve]

if you want to go fast, you need a swiftness and haste items + max move speed on boots

[undone prism]

Currently at 81% movement speed, once I can get that t7 movement speed slam on some boots then it will boost it up some

[teal willow]

Yeah my build slows me

[sullen valve]

but honestly swiftness and haste are 500+ corr luxury

[teal willow]

It's really shit for farming

[sullen valve]

I just move and shit dies, I guess you can't do better than that lol

then again "RF" has always been a mapping build

[solid gale]

i need good item filter for bazar - someone? if yes pls DM

[barren cape]

pretty sure the MG discord has a official one

[ebon breach]

Am I missing something or is there no way to search for sealed affixes on the bazaar?

[gaunt scaffold]

hey, im not MG so im wondering of 2 prices, how much is a traitors tongue 4 and 3 lp going for, and how much is a red ring of atlaria with 1 lp

if anybody can help me price check those 2 things would appreciate a ton

[sullen valve]

Red Ring is 1.725 billion gold IF it appears on the AH

[gaunt scaffold]

with 1lp?

lol

[sullen valve]

0LP is 350M

[gaunt scaffold]

holy shit prices went to shit

and how much is a traitors tongue 4-3 LP?

[sullen valve]

3LP starts at 460M

[gaunt scaffold]

not even worth rerolling mg, prices are dumb lol

ty

[sullen valve]

MG is hardmode after 300 corr, CoF is easier

[clear rampart]

If you know how to craft to sell high it's rather nice. I started about a week into the season and after a week I have better gear than I would have after a month of CoF grinding.

There are still issues that gold won't solve (lack of 1lp red rings on the market for one)

[timid zinc]

Do you guys also reach gold cap ultra fast?

[azure crater]

this, i found my niche and can make gold cap overnight now making minmaxing meta builds easy. It's more than just crafting, you need to know how to target certain things to then craft up. I found a great loop but obviously don't want to give away my secrets

[misty tulip]

how do i get more runes of havoc, COF seems 10x easier to gear due to thsoe

Don't really feel like playing due to Havoc runes. Don't know how to farm them on MG

[tawny field]

Man why is the market splintered all over the place? Can't you just have one centralized location that has all item types? It's needlessly time consuming to go around to each merchant to price check something. Or have it list similar items when you're listing an item.

Why not just go the PoE route and make it so you can list stuff from stash tabs/items individually within the stash? You could put items up for bidding/buyout right from the stash and sell them that way.

[rapid temple]

yo guys, if you have bricked 2 affixes legendary world splitters im willing to buy em, let me know your price, it is pretty annoying to search for

[lone niche]

I have an exalter ring with 2xT7 int / spell dmg
and T7 spell dmg / T6 int.
Can someone help me price them? There is no rings like that on market

[reef goblet]

Why is there such a low gold cap? I cannot redeem a sold item because I have 1.5 billion and it sold for 1 billion. Is this a bug?

[bold schooner]

How is T7 Dexterity ring with 1 open prefix, clean so expensive?

[mental wind]

hello Last epoch family i hopes all doing great i need little help any one have high currption player.. i need fast lvl i hopes u join me:

[visual ore]

Gold cap is like 2.3-2.4 billion

[civic robin]

tell me about it: i remember how last season i did almost 100 prophecies of relics and not a single one gave me a +4 skill to the one i needed (build defining +4) - fun times
i can almost guarantee i would've missed the slam if i did get my hands on it

you could give the argument that havoc didn't exist back then lol

[teal willow]

Is it better to farm juiced graves and cemeteries for Havoc, or farm arbor?

I tried reddit arbour strat, felt too rng maybe those users got lucky

I have enough gold now but like no havocs...that is capping my progress

[covert breach]

I also would like a solid strat for farming havocs, if anybody has one.

[teal willow]

I found two on Reddit. I tried the Lightless Arbour one and it was a colossal failure. I will try the other one later today.

And you can get tons of other loot like idols while doing it.

[clear rampart]

The reddit guide might have explained it wrong

Do you remember by any chance how many runes were in each chest? You should have had 6 chests with 250+ runes each

I usually get 12+ havocs from each run with a record of 24

[fathom vortex]

just make it then

[teal willow]

Yeah I had 6 chests. But only one of them has havoc and only 2 of those runes.

Spent around two mill

Do I need a certain blessing?

[bold schooner]

as in I was trynna sell it for gold

is it really that expensive?

[teal willow]

I really need someone to make a video on this. I'm missing something crucial that is not being written

[fathom vortex]

idol more expensive then thnis

[bold schooner]

oo you mind giving me an example of an expensive idol or what do i look for?

[teal willow]

Can you tell me In order exactly what buffs you are taking?

[clear rampart]

So you always start with a chest, take runes. No matter in which order but you need to triplicate and duplicate the chest so keep in mind how many rolls you have left. You only want either "adds many runes to a RANDOM chest" or some generic multipliers of items or duplication (avoid 15% more, there are better). Never take any "adds a chest" after the first one. Duplication and triplication happens after buffs to a random chest, so you want to look for "adds many to random" rather than "adds a single [thing] to all chests". The best are 45% more items in a random chest, 30% more items in all chests, 50% for items to be duplicated, you get the memo.

[fathom vortex]

idol weaver some may expensive like "ward retention + Health/mana" u can check ur self in bazar

in discord TSM "market" they selling idol like 1.4b

[devout cypress]

basically things with health 🙂

[teal willow]

Isn't the cold cap 2b

How they sell 4b?

[fathom vortex]

maybe i miss look
1.4b i dont know thats alot money for me

[teal willow]

So explain to me how cof isn't better for getting the exalted I need to go beyond a lp1 build.

They seem to get more multiple t6t7 drops and way more havoc

[opal yarrow]

Because capitalism. Do you want to be a communist? No. I didn't think so. Go join MG

[teal willow]

The AH doesn't have the exalts for slam I need

For any slot ATM

I'm stuck at lp1

I'm thinking either reroll cof or just play something else

[spark bobcat]

Hi fellow Merchants! Why can't I list this item for sale? https://i.imgur.com/TtnITvq.png It has a MG icon, shouldn't I be able to sell that... to MG? I might be dumb 🙂

[lone niche]

I have an exalter ring with 2xT7 int / spell dmg
and T7 spell dmg / T6 int.
Can someone help me price them? There is no rings like that on market

[split wave]

Having an MG icon means you cannot sell it. It needs to be fully "clean" to be sold.

[azure crater]

wth i had a sale of 300m but it said cannot redeem due to gold cap, i backed out and went back in and now the sale is gone.... anyone else had this? just lost 300m

[teal willow]

When I'm capped I will for sure never click sales tab lol

[thin wing]

im rank 8 and spent 50k favor and the rep bar is barely moving lol?

can someone give me some advice T_T

[nimble spade]

The bar shows your progress to level 12, not the next level.

[thin wing]

is 1 favor worth 1 rep?

is there a ratio

[spark bobcat]

Is there a way in the MG to search specific stats on Uniques?

For example a Siphon of Anguish and I wan to look for a 30% Increased Leech Rate. How would I do that?

[topaz raft]

guys is 18 weavers will something super good or something? I saw these are many millions in the bazaar

[gaunt mural]

The more weavers will the more affixs you can get and the higher tiers they can be I’m
Pretty sure

[grand wren]

Heyyy is there a community MG filter somewhere that I could use? Looking for something pretty strict currently in 1000+ corruption. Trying MG for the first time and so far it hasn't been going great for me to the point where I've only purchased one item of my entire gear set lol.

[thin wing]

do u get same amount of rep buying from the Nama npc as u get from players?

assuming u spend the same amount of favor

[frigid narwhal]

is there a gold cap?

i cant redeem a 1.2b sale because i have to much gold?

[spark bobcat]

yes

[misty tulip]

there are 0 1lp red rings in the AH.....wtf?

Even RMT people lose in this faction lol

[teal willow]

MG is garbage compared to COF for nearly every player. Even if you spend weeks becoming the 1% AH goblin lord the item is no longer in stock. Meanwhile COF chads fully geared in one day weeks ago.

[polar salmon]

hey guys I thought about switching to merchants guild due to lack of time of being able to play, but was wondering can someone tell me how prices are so far? and any bad duping going on?

[teal willow]

If you don't have time to play that's COF lol

Inflation will crush someone who doesn't play much

COF is great. Just target farm and use weaver tree

Relax and don't worry about the trash ah UI

[polar salmon]

okay thanks. Maybe it's only because I'm only at #4 on the COF reward system that I'm not finding much?

[white nest]

is there a way to easily price checkm items?

[teal willow]

Yeah gotta get to 12 and use prophecies and do empowered monoliths. Even MG would be useless at rank 4

[hidden nymph]

Both of them get much better as your ranks go up

[safe remnant]

Yep some items are missing in AH because no one is farming that timeline boss. But at least for me I don’t have to target farm every single item I want with COF, did that last season and too tired of that shit.

[hallow nova]

getting late in the season and prices are now more and more ridiculous, have spare 900m though but just made the switch to CoF yesterday.

i have some spare VK ES organic drops that I have used when I switch and some res hp mana idols. Namely splitter, omnis, +4ES trash base, oceareon, midnight, anchor, and some trash exalted for HP.

Already rank 9 in 4hrs or something.

half naked VK ES still 1 shots 900c o_o even with trash gear. The only difference when switching is that I was left with 500-600 mana and 2.9k HP. Just how broken this class is?

[misty tulip]

yeah Sentinel is stupid

game needs balance next season

[safe remnant]

Reminds me of frostclaw 😭

[misty tulip]

knowing a class farms 100x faster than you in this MG sucks

im a mage lol

im farming arbour and get randomly 1 shot wtf

beed Havoc runes, huge gate in MG

[safe remnant]

No need to compare to the top class. Your fun lies within you. Still we can farm idols for great profit . Most my profit comes from idols , lp3 gears, rings and belt.

[misty tulip]

don't vk farm that like 100x faster than mage

im still at 500 corruption since mage takes quite a bit of gear

[safe remnant]

There is no pvp. Doesn’t bother me, and I’m a casual player , sitting at 1.5b gold already doing what I mentioned above .

[misty tulip]

what class

[safe remnant]

Lightning blast

[misty tulip]

i have 1.2 billion but it doesn't matter when i have no havoc runes

havn't been able to use that gold

[safe remnant]

The sad thing is I can’t buy lp3 twisted heart

[misty tulip]

also lp1 red rings aren't even in the store

RMT or bots buy them

[safe remnant]

Then see red ring as a self challenge, farm it

[misty tulip]

yeah, but COF gets them exponentially faster then

[safe remnant]

Tried COF last 2 seasons, I hate to see. Piles of god gears sitting in my stash doing nothing

Like watching many hot girls on the street but none of them will be my gf 😭

[misty tulip]

im going cof next season. mg really soured me

[safe remnant]

I may go back next , not sure. I’m happy with both side . MG feel more multiplayer for me, at least I’m interacting with other player

[misty tulip]

what corruption do you farm?

[safe remnant]

Right now 800c , can kill fast.

[misty tulip]

i went some weird meme build that is super hard to gear. bad choice for MG. I'm stuck with the same gear for a while now.

gonna go primalist soon tho

[safe remnant]

I’ll try smite paladin next got most gears from AH

[misty tulip]

at 800c what do you farm for idols fastest, just tombs?

[safe remnant]

My weaver trees are all for tomb/cemeteires and pack size.

Farm idols and weaver weapon and relic

Also I’ll craft belt and jewellery. For example a good belt can sell for 100m + easy

Sold many of them

[misty tulip]

I just spent $10million and got 3 rune sof havoc after reading 5 different guides for Lightless Arbor

everyone is saying it should be 12-24

for $2million

Ready to just call it. I wasn't even gonna log in today but someone told me to give it 1 last try lol

And it was the worst try of all

[hollow dove]

if someone gives you something with obsidian resonance is it tradeable in MG

[fleet canopy]

Hello! 🙂

I was just wondering if anyone here has a "Shattered World" Relic with atleast 1 LP for sale, that isn't so damn expensive? Don't get me wrong, I am gonna pay a nice amount of gold for it, if it has good rolls across the board 👍

Edit: Nvm got my hands on one! 😅

[wheat kayak]

my advice is that if you can't afford it, try to craft and sell gear

made a tidy profit just by crafting and selling t7 mana/vengence/+melee void dmg

[fleet canopy]

I am doing exactly this aswell, it's slow sometimes and the other day I found a Shattered Chains belt with 2LP that sold for 400m in less than 2 min lol

[wheat kayak]

welcome to the rich persons' club >:)

[white wharf]

I am 750 corruption now and want to make some bank. Which timeline is probably most consistent playing on an uber strict loot filter?

I've made the majority of my cashstack so far just with imprinting a double t7 sentinel relic that has mana

Any mana drop is like 40 mill each time and sometimes I get +4 judgement for the big bucks

[grave vault]

Why are prices that inflated? Red lp1 would probably go way above cap. Is it because of gold sellers?

[white wharf]

Yeh. RMT has inflated prices mentally

[wheat kayak]

tbh all timeslines are equally good

crafting gear or getting abberoth related LP gear is the best way to farm

[white wharf]

I'm gonna hunt a red ring for imprint i think

[naive bone]

Is there a way to repeatedly get glyphs of envy at all?

[tribal wadi]

am i just unlucky? i just updated my weaver tree 2 days ago to imprint 4 diff items, but i havent seen a single drop yet in about 8 hours of play

[nocturne prairie]

Did you submit an In Game Bug Report for this?

[teal willow]

I think I'm bugged then. I tried the things you guys said and still got like only 3 havoc.

But that's fine I guess 500 corrupt and 1lp is a good bar to finish the season.

[teal willow]

How do I do that as a mage I don't get sentinel drops and also I have no havoc runes left.

[wheat kayak]

Everyone get drops from all classes. You just have it hidden.

[teal willow]

Well I'm using tsm filter

I guess I get some but they are rare

[split wave]

Yes, other-class items are significantly rarer

(non-unique / non-set ones, anyway)

[teal willow]

I just gotta find a great havoc farm and I'm set.

[thin wing]

anyone have some advice on getting the last 580k rep?

[arctic pilot]

so I'm level 92..should I be higher than level 8 in merchant's guild?

I need to get to level 10 to buy upgrades lol

[wise perch]

I think the game is setup for characters to naturally get level 100 before maxing their faction rank.

[sullen flame]

Dear Merchant fellas, give it upvote and support to have this added as soon as possible. I think this is frustrating for all of us.
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/add-unique-affixes-to-market-filter/77372/1

[obsidian vessel]

hi can anyone please check and tell me the price of Ravenous Void gloves in bazaar please? I am in COF just want to know

[odd lion]

lowest price rn is 24.15m - 0 lp

[teal jasper]

merchant guild is so silly to me, everything seems relatively too cheap? for high lp items

compared to the price of relics etc

[wheat kayak]

the price of items is related to their rarity and difficulty in obtaining said items + demand

[teal jasper]

I feel like there just has to be a ton of people not pricing weaver idols I made 500mil yesterday alone

[wheat kayak]

Rare + High Demand = 1LP Red Rings
High Demand + Difficulty in Obtaining Items = 1LP Shattered Worlds
No Demand + Not Rare = 4LP Fighting Chance/Hammer of Lorent

[teal jasper]

well rolled 3lp uniques are like 1bil

[wheat kayak]

yeah 1bil is fairly affordable, probably a day's worth or less of pure grinding at the high end

[wintry pike]

is here where I can join a guild?

[outer quail]

selling 4% crit, 10 all attribute shattered world in market 🙂 max

[nimble wyvern]

no one is selling "Shattered worlds" relic?

[pine tulip]

Man is red ring expensive for a random 30% elemental dmg

[silent gull]

Want to buy Red Rings with 1 LP - Legacy softcore

[wary fern]

Hi, anyonne recommends a good filter for selling to other people?

[inland elk]

is there an LE trading discord or something to sell items above 1,5B?

[hollow dove]

why do people list trash items for multiple millions or over a billion lmao

3 LP snowblind and also with bad rolls, no ones buying a good one of those even lmao

[misty tulip]

Hey does anyone here know how to remove the ring filter from TSM filter

i want to se eall ring drops

[dim pagoda]

are there any changes planned to remove gold cap and fix inflation?

[still lichen]

whats the gold cap?

[candid agate]

1 750 000 000 = 1 500 000 000 (excluding tax)

[misty tulip]

its not much but imo thats what makes MG equal to COF for average/casuals

[lone niche]

I have ring T7 Void dmg / T7 Str / T5 void res / T5 lightning res. Anyone would help me price it?

[hexed quiver]

What sells well right now? Just switched over to Merchants need some gold heh

[white wharf]

Easy gold for me is imprint a high forging potential T7 mana sentinel relic if you can get one

Doesn't need to even be sentinel tbf

T7 mana gloves, rings, relics are nice easy gold

[hexed quiver]

Wouldn't of guessed manna, ty!

[white wharf]

Especially if they have high forging potential still

[glossy schooner]

Heya. How do you guys farm gold? I am at 900 corruption, and idk what to farm. In terms of Echo, I mean

Or, what strat do you guys use to farm gold?

[undone halo]

what happens with my stall if I leave mg?

[full forum]

anyone getting an error when they try to list items from weaver tree imprint?

it seems drops generated from that, i cant sell

they are not trade restricted.

[misty tulip]

imprint juicy stuff in weaver tree. then use the weaver echo juiced up strategy. a lot of it on youtube by frozen sentinel

and binaqc

im gold cap easily. problem is my build is some niche bullshit and there are no items in the AH for it and there is nothing to use my gold on and i'm stuck in lp1 😄

[heady sonnet]

ive noticed that the merchants guild has been having some inflation. is this going to continue to get worse?

[bleak ice]

Well it seems that its "saved" by gold cap.. Which imho is not a good sign..

[misty tulip]

Only problem is a lot of items don't even exist in the AH for certain builds

[fossil gorge]

What is the best way to get gold because

To switch mastery is 500k…..

[still lichen]

sell lp2 stuff on market, useful lp2 is worth millions, i got a lucky lp2 boot drop and sold it for like 200m

[obtuse robin]

Merry christmas whoever bought the two 1LP shattered worlds I listed for 100m.... I left out a 0 LOL

[sinful ferry]

Measure twice cut once.

[obtuse robin]

Its alright... its a sacrifice to RNGesus

[sinful ferry]

Ye there will be more opportunities

[swift pewter]

how can i figure out what the best items are to farm etc for builds... i've tried looking around for something that just shows items and prices atm but i can't find anything that's got a list etc (new to game, just unlocked empowered monoliths)

[glossy schooner]

The video from 5 days ago? It was 10 days ago, the weave tree imprint

[safe remnant]

Right now you can just farm weaver idols and weaver weapon such as needle, those can easily sell for multi millions.

[safe remnant]

Farm weaver idols and meta build class idols, check max roll top builds and see what idols they use. Weaver weapon such as needle can sell for good price. Sell t7 item. Farm black sun boss for that splitter axe etc

[misty tulip]

Also craft. Tons of gold.

[velvet bone]

can you filter stats of uniques in Bazaar?

[crimson edge]

does anyone else have an issue where the trading UI doesnt fit on the screen?

the only way for me to get it to fit into my screen is to change my resolution way low

i had this issue when MG first launched, unfortunately seems to persist

[safe remnant]

I don’t have this issue

[crimson edge]

i have 2560 x 1600 right now which makes the UI too zoomed in, have to go down to1920 x 1080 to see it all

[glossy schooner]

How do you farm specific idols as MG?

[loud kayak]

you dont farm it, you buy it 😂

[hexed quiver]

farming more cof... merchant guild more getting something good, sell it then buy something you want with that

[obtuse robin]

I wonder if Im ever going to see a 3LP blood of exile or null portent on MG...

[wise perch]

Does anyone here play Legacy?

[granite radish]

How do you start to learn what is valuable for selling the MG? Are there any tools like POE awakened that tell youa bou the value of things?

any tips on learning what might be valuable or how you guys know what to look for

[ashen kraken]

hi guys i need help

i need seel one needle, void damage tier 7 how much?

[dense hedge]

is there a website for the trade? Thanks!

[obtuse robin]

No just the bazaar

[mighty mist]

Merchants guild sounds like it’s gonna need a whole revamp. A site would be better, price checking etc quality of life features

[ashen kraken]

what a site? give a link pls

[dense hedge]

I played last year as MG and there was a trade site to check stuff. I guess it was taken down (?)

[azure crater]

1LP Red ring, +5 all stats, 17% all other. Taking offers as they are clearly worth more than 1.5b AH cap as they sell within 10 seconds of listing.

[mighty mist]

Why can this not be traded? BROTHER I can’t send pics in this channel tf……

[visual ore]

LOL

scam

[azure crater]

wtf you on about noob, go try buy a 1lp red ring then, bet you cant

[visual ore]

i mean i got like 5 in my stashes xD

[azure crater]

good for you

list them then if you care so much

[visual ore]

how are u doing the trade?

[azure crater]

list random rare, buyer buys, trade item, simple

i have peaked on my falconer, killing uberroth in 40 seconds. i don't need the money desparately and certainly aint no scam, but i know what this is worth and its more than 1.5b

[visual ore]

yea but thats how it is... i sold like 5 perfect rolled lp1 relics for cap aswell

[azure crater]

uhuh and it's stupid to cap as it creates no value for items

i see no issue with using this channel to trade if anyone wants, i've seen people offer 6b for other rare items elsewhere.

[cosmic anvil]

Can you give someone Items bought on bazar

[mighty mist]

okay on merchants guild can you set unique items by how high affixes are?

[topaz raft]

i think no unfortunately

[white wharf]

I've got like 20+ relics with t7 mana or have havoc chances to roll to mana. I literally cba to price them all

Trying to think of a rough amount to just put them all up for the same

[white wharf]

Just chucked them all up for 20 mill each. Someones gonna get some good deals on them

[stable patrol]

Hi everyone. Any recommandation on how to exp that guild fast ?

[granite radish]

The merchants guild ui needs massive overall

Its so inefficient to search items to price check

[graceful cradle]

AGREED, and its window upon window upon window, or another drop down menu upon another.

[hallow orchid]

like i understand there is no way to searc unique items from market with better stats ?

[teal willow]

Let us just right click search the item like on Wow

And also lowest buyout price on bottom corner of item description

[granite radish]

They need to fix something with it, its pretty cumbersome

[mighty mist]

Yeah it does… not enough filter options

[covert breach]

Would anybody be willing to help me out with a price check? I'm having some trouble with this awesome item I crafted.

[teal willow]

What's the best way to get LP red ring as mg? Seems like the best builds use that

[fluid terrace]

Anyone could link me The Sanctum Market Discord please ?

[topaz raft]

Can u sell the items you copy from the egg on the nemesis?

if so, how come some 0LP items still can be expensive if u can copy them so easy?

oh wait it doesnt copy them just empower them

[harsh apex]

Those items are similar to the base 😉

[harsh apex]

Selling T6 items in good prices, u got some points. And of course farming slashing farming slashing echoes 😄

[echo axle]

Would it be too much to ask for some gold? Just switched over to MG and I am broke out here.

[quartz flume]

i have just started to play this game and have chosen MG as my main but looking for items to sell for gold to buy upgrades is a bit overwelming rn, are there any general tips on what i could sell for quick gold and what i should be picking up

pricing items is also feeling really hard with all the different types of items being at different npcs xd

[dawn elk]

Just search TSM on Last Epoch Reddit and install the filter to print gold. It's by far the most popular MG filter, nothing compares to it. I'd suggest joining the Discord as well as it can help a ton with learning prices and such. Unfortunately the bazaar UI is far from idaal making pricing a bit painful at times, experience helps a lot with reducing the time it takes to price items.

[quartz flume]

i have found that filter and using the semi-strict one for a while now but almost nothing is being shown at my current level (62) and i'm not sure if i'm doing stuff wroonoog

should i just continue to level until i start dropping stuff that are shown

[dawn elk]

Yes, the more you push the more gold you'll make to a point. For example farming 800 corruption may be better than 1,500 with idol drop rates and such. Myself I would say I average around 50-100 million gold per hour running 1.2-1.5k monoliths.

[quartz flume]

thanks

[quartz flume]

so the filter is currently showing a lot of idols rn am i supposed to do something with those or are those just for self use

[dawn elk]

If any idol is being shown while using the TSM filter there's a good chance it has some value. Many weaver idols for example are worth 100-500 million.

[quartz flume]

oh damn

[quartz flume]

how could i price check weaver idols do i just put the exact item into search

[dawn elk]

Yes, search the mods and adjust the tier values if needed. Pricing items isn't too bad once you gain experience.

[quartz flume]

is it worth checking if its not like high tier

cuz like all of it are just t1 mods

[dawn elk]

All idol mods are tier 1, what you're looking for is high mod rolls. Just start pricing idols that drop and you'll notice paterns.

[quartz flume]

oh ok

thanks :D

when i search for weaver affixes there are two identical ones which one do i use?

[woven herald]

I joined MG, leveled up a bit, and got a few LP1, LP2, and 0LP uniques. What should I sell and what should I keep? Also, how do I decide the right price to sell items for?

[sly quest]

By checking current prices for each item right now with search for your parameters or by conversations like this.

[woven herald]

ok for uniques i can do that, but what about the horded exalted stuff that i have ?

Should i scrape them?

[sly quest]

This or check prices for t7, t7 for popular builds can cost something.

[sly quest]

Also you can try to find sanctum market discord, they have some info collected on prices

[topaz raft]

I use the TSM unique loot filter, you drop them on the ground and shows you which may have value

for uniques

[woven herald]

I just did that with my horeded stuff with there lowest filter for exalted items and then did same with other rarity... 🙂

clear a lot of things though i think i cleared many t6's as well

[topaz raft]

T6? the filter is not for exalted, just unique stuff

you just keep all the uniques you get, then enable this filter, drop them down and pick up the ones it shows

its not the regular TSM filter

so u dont use it all the time, just when its time to filter all the uniques you have gathered in stash

[woven herald]

Semi Strict filter ?

[topaz raft]

no

search for TSM uniques

the semi strict is a regular filter for when u play

the uniques one you just enable to clean up your stash by manually dropping stuff

then disable it again

[woven herald]

those that does not show up on ground i can vendor them correct?

[topaz raft]

yeah pretty much

you can also just use this spreadsheet and check for high value items only if u cant be bothered to check prices and stuff

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ibf8yOFTAVBw4B4l3v9wjDoJciC228SaFmr9vy2TLX8/edit?gid=386484565#gid=386484565

then just vendor everything else, sure you would lose some valuable stuff here and there but save time

I got 2x orian amulet yesterday from the glyph transformation thingy 😄 i feel rich now

[sly quest]

and be ready that it can be incorrect and outdated too

[topaz raft]

for sure, better just use the filter and price check

but if you are pressed for time the spreadsheet is faster

[ripe snow]

If I wanted to start over and start a falconer is this the faction to join? Im at a crossroads where I either justt quit or start a new char

[topaz raft]

what problem are you facing? I think both factions are viable, its more about which one fits your preference more?

[ripe snow]

I started a paladin with CoF then for some reason thought I could switch factions and keep the favor fro mthe other faction and just loose the items when I realized I couldnt I swapped back but now im just wondering if I should just start a new character [falconer] and start fresh since I never got to really start a weaver tree or do a farming strat

[topaz raft]

Whether you start a new character or keep the existing one and catch up on the faction stuff, I think u should just go with the faction you feel suits you more as a process

Both factions should be viable anyway so go with what you like

[blissful breach]

both factions are ok.
In general, being in CoF will make your path to uniques is more ez. Being in MG will make your path to fodder (exalted items for slams) more ez. Probably, both ways will be ~same in general.

[slim slate]

have anyone see LP4 ? what courrput do you play

i play 100 hour not see any lp4 my max 700 corrput

[topaz raft]

yeah its very rare but you dont really need it to progress anyway so its not a problem I think

[slim slate]

i need it for end this game haha it drop to hard ? i want win boss uber 500 courrpt

[sly quest]

LP0: 1 in ≈1
LP1: 1 in 16
LP2: 1 in 1,469
LP3: 1 in 814,354
LP4: 1 in 331,894,034,128 for example for red ring https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/UAzDMCYHZKA

just check your item

[topaz raft]

I think that if u cant do it with LP3 maybe its better to look for another build cause LP4 is super rare haha

[mighty kite]

You guys speak of LP, as if every unique was the same.

There's items where 4LP is super common amd others where 1LP is already rare and great.
All a question of the LPL

[sly quest]

Already mentioned with resource where to check difference (:

[teal willow]

Imo COF is better for builds using lp red rings. And a lot of builds do.

[obtuse robin]

Nah just get a legendary red ring from MG for 200 mil and imprint

Much easier

[teal willow]

I heard it's faster on cof even then

Since I think the COF bonuses effect imprint

[obtuse robin]

The issue is getting your first one

And its easier to get it on MG than COF

[teal willow]

And favor farm binaq got like five in one day

[obtuse robin]

After you get an imprint its just free

[mighty mist]

I bought my red ring then imprinted it lmao.

[teal willow]

Same i bought mine. But everything from imprinter is trash

Lp0

[mighty mist]

I really need one with LP so I can put dexterity on it. Maybe I’ll get a 4lp red ring

[obtuse robin]

You just need LP0 for nemesis

Then it just goes up, LP1 imprint etc

[teal willow]

Nemesis gives me dodge

Lol

[obtuse robin]

Farm more lol

[teal willow]

Ahh

[obtuse robin]

You can get like 2-3 a day if you farm quicker

Maybe even more

Depending on luck

[teal willow]

What you farm, shrine?

I can only play three hours a day

[obtuse robin]

Just any echo, key is speed

I recommend you turn on all rings

You will see how often its rolling

A cluster of 4 rings means the imprint is working

[teal willow]

Yeah I gotta figure out how to turn on all rings on tsm filter

Use as ascension runes too

[obtuse robin]

Indeed

It feels a lot better farming to see the ring cluster

Turn it on and see how it goes

[teal willow]

Does corruption level influence the imprint a lot?

This seems too random , most people on Reddit say they still have gotten no LP one after weeks and they speed farm 900.

COF seems the better path any time I see someone with two it's usually COF.

I got five in a week.

Five a day seems impossible unless it's 10+ hours

[obtuse robin]

I think corruption has minimal impact on RR drop post 500

You could go Erasing strike, exceptionally strong build that doesnt use RR

2LP world splitter so much more common

[teal willow]

I kinda like playing less popular stuff I'm a tornado shaman/druid lol. It can speed farm pretty high corr but needs gear

[fringe warren]

what does it mean when it says I need -144k reputation to rank up?

[obtuse robin]

You need 144k favor, you get by killing mobs in echoes primarily

[molten prawn]

I’m COF and every 600k favor I would get 1 RR with 1 LP and good rolls

Using egg and imprinting

Along with prophecies

[fringe warren]

yeah, thats what I thought, but why does it say negative (-)?

[obtuse robin]

Mind showing a screenshot?

[fringe warren]

I cant send photos here wont let me

[obtuse robin]

Does restarting the game help?

[fringe warren]

nah just tried it

[teal willow]

Does COF LP increase effect imprint drops?

[molten prawn]

I believe so, but I’m not sure the actual math that happens

[teal willow]

Darn

I wish they put in more OP rings so there are more bis options.

RR situation on MG is tough. People selling for RMT instead of putting them on AH

Or RMT people using bots to insta buy on AH. Big demands low supply

[tiny spire]

hey, ive got items i got inprinted in weavers tree and they arent tradeable, my question is, can i still get the imprinted item in a tradeable way like are there different rolls for the normal version of the item and the imprinted weaver tree item? or do i have to take out red ring so i can drop it tradeable again

[split wave]

The ones that come directly from the imprint will be untradeable same as the imprinted item.
Normal drops are still tradeable like usual.

[tiny spire]

so i am still able to drop a normal tradeable red ring even tho i got it in the imprint?

[split wave]

Yes, the imprint just doesn't help you get extra tradeable ones above what you normally can get frop drops unless you imprint a tradeable one.

[tiny spire]

okay ty

[granite radish]

Why is the Marketplace price checking so trash

so slow and inefficient to PC items

[safe remnant]

Once you get used to it it’s not hard to check price. I was bit lost at start but now pretty much and look at the item and know the ball park figure

Always search the important affix , one or 2 of them. For example for sentinal helmet, focus on mana and health % , if you have double mana + hp% that’s great. Then focus on the best helmet you can get - in my case will be leonine helmet which gives reduced bonus crit dmg

If you not sure just check maxroll guide and see what are the end game gears those top builds are using, then you know what affix sell for great value

Another great example is t6 /7 elemental dmg over time pair with healing effectiveness rings. Or void dmg + strength and hp rings

Or void + crit chance

Throw dmg and mana reduce + throw speed

[granite radish]

That can take some time learning those, again the issue is that its very inefficient

So yes if you already know what everything is worth, then you dont need to PC really..... but thats a big part of arpgs

in POE you can put the item up and it already has the item listed so you can at least look at the values without searching for them. ... also for like idols, lets say you have an item with 7 health, and you want to gauge where taht is without looking through all the 4 health items, the percent slider doesnt do that for you accurately

Its very inefficient and cumbersome compared to a lot of other arpgs

[safe remnant]

At least it’s moving to the better direction. Season 2 compare to early access this game has made huge improvement , let’s give good suggestions to dev and let them work on it

I do enjoy Poe trading tool, very good to use

[tiny spire]

if i put an item into the imprint in weavers tree, can i farm it everywhere then or just in age of winter for example if it usually should just be farmable there?

[little skiff]

how do people sell the item that worth than 1.5b?

[small vapor]

Easily

Depending on the rarity of the item and the fact that multiple accounts, mostly those who RMT, exploited and essentially got infinite gold, the amount of gold for this season is broken

And not rolled back hence why these sells

[misty tulip]

probably 3rd party shady sites

[loud parrot]

when do items start getting tagged for MG?

[hallow orchid]

After buying

[loud parrot]

i thought items i pickup got tagged as mg

[hallow orchid]

Nope. Tag joins after selling so you cant sell it again or use it on fortune side

Fortune have same spot somthing like "item not tradable" or drop bonus level rank.

[loud parrot]

has that always been like that for mg?

[hallow orchid]

Ye

Your normal drop not get any bonus from mg and not get taged

[peak niche]

There is a new feature with the weaver tree where you can drop items that are already faction marked if you imprint an item that has a faction mark. Other than those imprinted items, all item drops in MG are un-marked so you can wear everything you drop if you ever join CoF.

[sullen valve]

Getting two T7 items in MG is seriously starting to feel like climbing mount everest, twice,

We are at a point they arr not even posted and single T7 with two good T5 is already at gold cap

[teal willow]

Yeah MG is beyond scuffed. I do not recommend it for casuals OR sweatlords.

Like it doesn't even matter if you are a god gamer and make gold cap daily, a lot of good items (which casuals on COF are easily farming) don't even exist on the AH anymore.

And with the rather large player drop off, sales are real slow now. So buying the few things is not going to be so simple for the average player anymore. Meanwhile COF stays the same.

MG was good for the people who finished the season those first two weeks. But now it's for edge lords who want a harder time.

[sullen valve]

Yeah, it's just much slower than CoF at 1000+ corruption and the need for double T7 legendaries

[teal willow]

I guess if you imprint a double t7 and use runes it's not too horrible but then what purpose is the AH serving. It's dead weight at that point.

[sullen valve]

Exactly. Normally the goal of MG is too widen the number of useful drops in exchange for not getting what you need personally, and then use the AH to trade what's useless to you and buy what you need.

But right now, even popular builds, you cannot find top quality items on the AH, so you are reduced to playing COF in MG without the personnal benefits...

I don't know how they can fix that and quite frankly it's not my job to figure it out.

[teal willow]

Yeah and each week goes by it gets worse

[obtuse robin]

MG prices going down dont worry guys

Player pop lowering

[sullen valve]

I'm not troubled by prices. I'm max on gold.

[obtuse robin]

Just saying its better for the more casual pop, things should be more affordable

[wise perch]

Most of you here play Cycle, correct?

[obtuse robin]

Yep

[sullen valve]

Yeah

[wise perch]

Can you give me an example of 2 or 3 uniques that are selling for 1.5 bil in Cycle that would not under normal circumstances sell for that much?

[obtuse robin]

What do you mean not under normal circumstances

The market rate is market rate

Red ring LP1 would be cheap at 1.5bil

[wise perch]

Under non-exploitative gold inflation rate.

[obtuse robin]

Theres no such thing

[wise perch]

Ok well I am misinformed then. Thanks

[obtuse robin]

Theres no circumstances under which you would get a market that is not influenced by its players

That wouldnt be a market

If the going rate for something is that amount then thats what people are willing to pay for it

[wise perch]

Ok thank you for the information.

[cloud sky]

Hello! is the realm influencing what we can found on the market ?

[wise perch]

Can someone check bazaar pricing for Ravenous Void 0 LP and Shattered Chains 2 LP please?

[wise perch]

Both of these items are selling for a fraction of the price in Legacy than they are in Cycle. Can anyone enlighten me on why there is such a major price disparity?

[obtuse robin]

Much less people playing in legacy

If supply exceeds demand, the price lowers

[wise perch]

Wouldnt this suggest that there would be less supply as well?

[obtuse robin]

There is also the factor of legacy being a graveyard of cycle characters

Most of them are already geared, they do not need items

The price is just a reflection of supply vs demand mate....

[wise perch]

Ah that makes sense. So is this usual in ARPGs for items to be priced exorbitantly higher in the season/cycle than in a normal/legacy type mode?

[obtuse robin]

It really depends on how the currency system works, and how many people play legacy vs cycle in that ARPG

You have to understand it cannot be generalised

[wise perch]

My understanding is that the major selling point of seasons/cycles is that they start with a fresh economy. The fact that prices can reach gold cap on several items in less than a month seems to negate the fresh economy aspect. What am I not understanding correctly?

[obtuse robin]

You are pretty late into the season

Thats why

[north laurel]

You are also contending with people who play 14+ hours a day

[wise perch]

Wow so the player base has a very small amount of time to benefit from the "fresh economy" aspect. I didnt realize the lifespan of seasons and cycles was so short.

[obtuse robin]

Hyperinflation usually occurs within the first week or so of a season of ARPGs

For example POE/POE2, divine prices shoot up 3x after the first week

[wise perch]

But how is it possible that this amount of gold drops naturally in the game to support such high prices?

[obtuse robin]

Conversely, things become worth more currency, so you are still able to earn enough to afford things eventually

Especially with a gold cap

Sell things?

You dont earn money from dropping gold dude....

Thats 50% of MG, you buy, but you also sell

If you aren't into the heavy trading aspect COF might be better for you

[wise perch]

Right, but that gold has to drop in the game.

Unless there are other ways of producing gold?

[obtuse robin]

There are also methods of getting a few hundred k per echo just on gold drops

But its quite marginal compared to trading

[wise perch]

That's a pittance compared to how much gold is in the economy.

[obtuse robin]

Theres no real gold sink

Gold just increases without diminishing

Theres just going to be more and more gold

And I mean.... no offense but the amount of time you spend on discord whining is time you could be spending farming items for gold haha

Just to address your question about the amount of gold... if a player drops say 300k in an echo, there are 25k concurrent players, lets say 20% make that kinda money, that is already 1.5 billion gold per echo

There is a gigaton of money being injected into the market every second without any way to diminish it

[small vapor]

Exploit. Got hotfixed but still abused by players + RMT people

[wise perch]

Which hotfix was it?

[small vapor]

Somewhat recent. Think sometime two to three weeks in

Can't remember which one

[wise perch]

Do you recall if EHG acknowledged this as an exploit in Cycle, in Legacy, or in both?

[small vapor]

IDK if it was acknowledged at all

[wise perch]

Then how do we know it existed for sure and that it was fixed in a hotfix?

[small vapor]

I assume people knew about it and noticed it didn't work after a specific hotfix

Iirc I learned about it on Reddit

[brisk patio]

can anyone list items

[ivory horizon]

ofcourse there was an exploit lmao, gold selling websites always have hundreds of billions of gold for sale

if you wanna actually do uber endgame builds you are forced to buy gold in mg. its a joke that every season there is an exploit

the exploits make mg a disaster

[molten prawn]

only time in the history it hasnt been that way was when D3 had real money auction house. But we all know how long that lasted lol

[small vapor]

Every season? There's been two lol

[ivory horizon]

cool story bro

[small vapor]

Yup. Very cool story. Six words to which two words were involved in a question

[teal willow]

I play a mediocre build and the items for that aren't even in the AH because it still uses LP RR and rare rolls on exalts. Im basically still playing like COF without the bonuses at this point.

Hoping for drops to craft and egg. Barely using AH.

Since my stuff ain't on there.

[hasty eagle]

cap, i have sold 5 lp1 red rings i have gold there is no gear on market i can buy to progress

[ivory horizon]

wow bro good thing its real easy to get 5 lp1 red rings dont @ me

[hasty eagle]

u are delulu saying u need to buy gold xd

[small vapor]

All sorts of wrong

[ivory horizon]

bro learn some reading comprehension

idk why youre trying to fight me idc what you do

[rapid temple]

thats cap, just craft good items, T7s w/ hybrid health, good legendaries like LP1 good rolls world splitter slammed, and it sells for a billion easily, the biggest problem with mg is once u need some LP3+ items you generally hit a wall since theres nothing on the market

[ivory horizon]

yall some LE shills? its obvious there was a gold exploit, stop trying to defend it

[rapid temple]

? ye there was an exploit but your point of having to buy gold doesnt stand

its easy to get 2 billion playing legit if you have a little bit of crafting knowledge

[ivory horizon]

bro i know, ive hit cap easily myself, im talking about the avg joe aint gonna make billions of gold

the gold exploit inflates these prices

[rapid temple]

the average joe is ass at games with trading anyway if were being honest, exploit or not

better play cof

[ivory horizon]

alright well keep the gold exploits going then w.e

[misty tulip]

What does cap matter when a lot of BIS items don't even exist in AH

While COF players get 5 of them a day

COF is better

[rapid temple]

point is if youre the average joe play CoF and get boosted loot

[misty tulip]

COF is better for both the average joe and hardcore sweat lords

And every week this gap grows

[ivory horizon]

they do exists, they arent on the auction house becuase they cost over cap

[misty tulip]

Yeah, how many people will use 3rd party sites. Hell I wouldn't even know where to look.

.001%?

[ivory horizon]

you dont know how to use google?

strange

[misty tulip]

This is stupid.

Your defense of MG is 3rd party scam sites that .001% use?

You're making my point for me.

[ivory horizon]

lol keep mg alive brother w.e

[misty tulip]

my main is COF now, i like gearing.

[ivory horizon]

i like cof too, im just pointing out the gold exploit makes mg shit

[misty tulip]

yeah its omega shit atm

[rapid temple]

yeah its like 3rd or 4th time theres a gold exploit

[ivory horizon]

on global chat i see people complaining about prices so there is an actual problem

[misty tulip]

there multiple problems with MG

[rapid temple]

ye its the same ppl that cant get currency on PoE cause theyre ass at the game, they shouldnt play trade

[ivory horizon]

if you want an lp2 item u cant get on mg, you gotta look elsewhere

[sand sedge]

guys is there any way to filter for 2 affixes legendary on AH?

[sullen valve]

just search for the affixes you want

[sullen valve]

Dude, I'm maxed gold, I can't buy shit on AH because what I need is never there 🤣

MG is shit for 1000+ corr and UAberroth farming. You won't find any double T7 or better on AH most of the time, if at all. Not even for 1.725 billion

That sum gets you well rolled T7 and 2-3 good T5 affixes, that's it, even for popular builds. LP3+ of popular uniques nowhere to be seen either.

[peak niche]

I got to 2k corruption and switched to CoF. It only takes a bit to rebuild in CoF, so if you're burnt out on the market, you can try CoF

[undone prism]

Can you search idols by type?

please don't say I have to look through 99 pages

[small vapor]

Yes

[small vapor]

First world problems

[undone prism]

oh man thats straight barbaric

[small vapor]

The easiest way to price check an item would be an option to allow search parameters based off the item you are listing but that would be too convenient

[peak niche]

Well, it's quite easy to search by the idol affixes and most affixes are exclusive to a specific idol combination, certainly for class specific idols. Basically all I do is look at the first and last name of the idol, like "Quenching - Salamander" <-- each of those names represents a specific affix I'm looking for. Usually each combination of affix is exclusive to a specific idol size + type

[undone prism]

but you still have to actually flip through a ton of pages instead of being able to input a desired roll number to filter unwanted lower rolls

I imagine that would be implemented as we can already select a tier range from the other searches

[small vapor]

You can do default any

Or you can do 1 and move the scale

[obtuse robin]

A tip for finding basically max roll on the idol affixes is to set it to 70% not 100%

[topaz raft]

i got 3LP hands of judgement, cheapest one I see is 100m. should i sell for more depending on rolls?

it has +15 attunement too which most i see have lower

maybe i try for a high price and lower it if it doesnt sell I guess

I see +14 attunement are listed for 800m

[mighty kite]

Aren't most people using it more for the fire pen part? (Honest question, not 100% sure)

[mental blaze]

https://i.yapx.ru/Y35fy.png How fix it?

[topaz raft]

no idea lol i listed it for 800m and will drop price if it doesnt sell i guess

[visual ore]

Attunement roll important for snapshotting gear

[gaunt mural]

Got gloves with t7 mana and t7 melee attack speed how much should I lost for

List^

[obtuse robin]

At least a bil if not gold cap

how much FP?

Any open affix?

[gaunt mural]

30 FP no open affix

[visual ore]

Bil yea

[gaunt mural]

I had it listed for 200 mil for like 2 minutes before anyone answered 🤣 thank god they weren’t sold

[obtuse robin]

Id say you can list it for gold cap first, if it doesnt sell reduce by 100mil increments haha

30FP not the most but still some room for crafting so its a good one

[gray dust]

Is crystal sword with t7 increased void damage (203%) and t7 attack speed (44%) worth anything? 43 FP.

[obtuse robin]

List for a bil

Maybe 1.2

I have a feeling it will sell around 700-800m

But try first

[fading kiln]

Where the hell are you guys finding these double 7 lol

[obtuse robin]

rngesus

also imprints!

[fading kiln]

I really need to study those tbh

I've imprinted a gold cap exalted armor once and nothing drops even close

[obtuse robin]

More important to imprint multi T7s + high FP

[fading kiln]

How do you get the first double t7? I never had those drop ever

[gray dust]

It was nemesis egg

[obtuse robin]

Yep nemesis or get lucky

[fading kiln]

Interesting

[fading kiln]

So nemesis tower is better than unclaimed trove?

[obtuse robin]

Unclaimed is good once you get the imprintt

Before that getting the right base + double T7 nemesis is better

[gray dust]

Also, that 2xt7 crystal has sealed t2 melee leech (5.8% of dmg leeched), does that affect it's price?

[obtuse robin]

nope

[river heart]

anyone have advice for this item. Can still despair the cold damage and add something useful, is it worth over gold cap ? https://imgur.com/a/IJJK886

[obtuse robin]

you can list at gold cap, someone will try havoc itt

[river heart]

ok, i started at 65 FP with cold T7 but didnt hit the best combo

ty

[loud parrot]

this item as a example how do i search for its value of -% dmg taken on block roll

oh cantpic here well its rayahs light

[gray dust]

Is this weird thing worth anything? https://ibb.co/Qjq63tZ6

[teal willow]

Wait how does egg give exalted I thought that is for uniques upgrade

[split wave]

Probably mean just nemesis, not the egg

[gray dust]

Oh yeah, my b, it was just nemesis item, then it got upgraded to 2 t7 while empowering

[teal willow]

Oooh ok thx

[rapid temple]

ye its boring i just use MG to rotate builds fast after reaching 1K5 corr so I dont get bored

can also OTC insane items

[sullen valve]

It's just incredibly annoying. Good thing I'm not fixated on doing Uber Aberroth, so I just stopped playing and moved on to Stellaris for a while. Have fun.

[teal willow]

Wait they are nerfing imprinting?

[fossil gorge]

I there a gold duping glitch of some kind going on

Why is the market so inflated

[undone prism]

inflated is all about perception I suppose, everything looks normal to me

[uneven vortex]

I've got a nice 2lp SW that's trying to find a home if anyone is interested 🙂 dm me

[untold charm]

any falconers that can kill uberroth able to help me out

[dim pagoda]

so there is still not fixes for merchant guild?

[rotund igloo]

is there a website to look up market prices without heading into the guild and searching them?

[deft zenith]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kPebdP3xG101Gy_y521ScrdrhMWXkmGM2oLu6Lg2Alg/edit?gid=1907168404#gid=1907168404

rough estimates

[misty tulip]

is imprint screwed now?

[split wave]

No

[misty tulip]

how much worse is it

[split wave]

Not sure. Mike said it is a "slight reduction".

[misty tulip]

oh ok

i guess ill try it out 1 or more 2 days and see for myself

[gaunt mural]

How much is t7 melee void dmg with t5 +5 to all attributes with t5 mana and mana regen

Two hand axe

[untold charm]

lmfao now base unique red rings are prob gonna hit market cap

imo terrible change with market current state

[hazy comet]

And happen mid-season too. I was happy with tangle laser nerf but HOLY! imprint node nerf hit like a punch in the gut. Especially if u not investing 12 hour a day playing

[teal willow]

COF is insanely better now after the nerf

It was already way better but now it's just huge

[eager sail]

what's the imprint nerf? is it the being able to drop other uniques of the same item type now?

or is there something else also?

[hazy comet]

Basically this.

So adding more pool of similar item type drop of the imprinted node.

[eager sail]

I wonder if its weighted by drop rarity or even weighted

Maybe could put in 4lp of a common unique ring and have a chance at higher lp rr?

[hazy comet]

Viable but now RR imprint is just like a worst prophecy hunting imprint

[hazy comet]

https://imgur.com/a/YAXdpgG

[mighty mist]

Are down the dumpster

[hazy comet]

Similar experience with mine using like Razorfall boot imprinted item

[cerulean idol]

I love how they did something right compared to other aRPG systems and trew it out the window with the first chance they got

is basically impossible to target farm uniques with the WT, i think i been farming for 4h now and i didnt get one of the imprints

[teal willow]

The worst part is they waited so long after the game has the typical drop off. So the only people punished are loyal players.

[cerulean idol]

i just got random shit from the same category

[teal willow]

But that's fine I moved on to another game. I'm not working harder than all the chads who got multiple LP RR over the last few weeks.

[cerulean idol]

i mean prices for certain rare 1lp items is gonna zoom out to cap soon

[cerulean idol]

i didnt even got one yet so we're in the same bucket

[teal willow]

I finally got one 0lp to imprint ....a literal day before the nerf

No shot I'm logging in before s3.

I know it's petty but it's just not fair. A lot of people got to use this but I couldn't play much those three weeks. I'm not playing with table scraps like some idiot.

[cerulean idol]

I never built my builds around rare chase uniques because of the trash rates at which they drops but this season i had the courage at atleast dreaming to have a red ring in atleast my main build, but it seems that that dream is shattered

they are forcing MG to move to CoF

[hazy comet]

Same here man. I dont play 12 hours aday and want to enjoy LE after work. WT Imprint was the best thing that got added to LE. Now it is just sort of budget prophecy.

Well it's a bummer but it is what it is. Should have kept it the way it is and let people enjoy what it was.

[wise perch]

Yeah in MG I feel like I'm playing a pseudo-CoF by using the weaver tree to get the items I need.

[fresh plover]

its the same for cof lmfao

prophecies only give uniques so everyone grinds imprints with double exalted items

and exalt prophecies are literally useless

[twilit galleon]

Was good while it lasted they gotta revert it and let us target farm i don.t care if they remove red ring as random drop also ravenous void atleast it felt like progress now again RNG RNG boooring but its whatever.

[teal willow]

Yeah mg is beyond cooked now.

Unless you already got what you needed before nerf

[dim beacon]

Flames of Midnight 1lp Worth Money ? Whats the topic why is mg Cooked now ?

[teal willow]

Super inflation and nothing really good being on there for a lot of builds. So you are basically just playing with with no faction lol.

And then imprint nerf

[molten prawn]

The age of multi exalt affixes is over. The time of tier 5 slams is among us!

[fresh plover]

wdym?

[dim beacon]

What did they Nerf exactly ?

[untold charm]

unique imprints

[dim beacon]

Ok means I should get rid of rr and put Double/ Triple in ?

[obtuse robin]

whoever listed a 2LP null portent for 690k Im sorry for you

[dim beacon]

Xd

690k Mill or 690 k like less than a Million ?

[obtuse robin]

690000

[untold charm]

no idea needs more testing, today im gonna be grinding all day doing boss reset strat so im going to get a lot of procs and count them and see how long it takes to get a red ring

so far at 11 echo procs and 3 kill procs with nothing

[dim beacon]

No wayyyyy omg

[dim beacon]

Whats this strat 🙂

[untold charm]

just resetting timeline over and over for stability

[dim beacon]

Hmm ok will Look it up I use envy

[inner vault]

I’ve been slamming t6s cos the 7s are way too expensive, should have gone cof I think

[sterile lava]

is it normal for items to drop with the merchant guild tag that can't be sold in the bazaar?

[small vapor]

Very likely it's an imprint of an item you purchased from the bazaar

[iron orchid]

Anyone here can help me find the loot filter for the Merchants Guild?

Ah. Got it.

[hollow dove]

im considering changing to COF to farm havocs what do you lose other than favor and tagged items exactly switching to COF

[subtle laurel]

Noob here, when listing an item, is there a way to quickly check what's the market price for similar stuff?

[short jetty]

Just farm uber is so efficient

[hollow dove]

i am so far unable to solo it

[short jetty]

Then Play top builds with budget build and in a week u will be 😄

[hollow dove]

i am. i have gotten to last phase a couple times

[short jetty]

Ah

[hollow dove]

im currently trying to gather the items for umbral falcon then gonna try that

[short jetty]

I'm playing that :p

[hollow dove]

im judgement paladin rn

[short jetty]

Well with 1-2lp items u can Solo easily

I'm doing it around 40s

Or less

[hollow dove]

my builds prob good enough rn but i dunno i haven't been able to

[short jetty]

Slowly forward

[deft gull]

i played a falconer budget build

and ubber made me billionaire

im like 2x gold cap now some are on the stall

[teal willow]

I like playing meme builds like shaman. Harder to make gold but the gear it requires is still super pricey

Probably should have went COF

[sterile lava]

It's not - I got it as a reward from a monolith.
In fact, there were several things I picked up in the map that I couldn't sell because they had the MG tag.
Could this be a bug?

[split wave]

Monolith rewards are one of the triggers for imprint drops

[sterile lava]

Dang - Good to know. Thx!
It's the first time I've noticed it happen.

[safe remnant]

Sell idols, jewelry can make big fortune.

[spring wren]

Go buy my countenance 3lp it is by far much cheaper than the rest :>

[steel trail]

do we have high end loot filter

[covert breach]

EHG really needs to re-evaluate this listing cap. It's impossible to find a 3LP Titan Heart on the market. They keep getting sniped instantly for 1.5b because they're worth more than that.

[teal willow]

Doesn't really matter. I'm 4x gold cap ATM and none of the items I need are in AH

MG is objectively far worse than COF due to this.

One of the reasons almost all major build creator and first Uber kills were COF

[teal willow]

Yup. This is a huge issue.

[wintry ice]

Is there any way to increase faction points faster?

I'm level 7 and I want to buy better equipment.

[split wave]

However you can boost XP (which gives you favor), or just gaining favor directly like through favor caches. You can spec into some of this stuff in the Weaver tree. Also burning your favor like by listing items or burning it on buying things either in the bazaar or from the faction npc gets you 2 rep per favor spent, can help you finish off a rank when you're close for example.

[subtle pine]

does some1 have the document about the estimated price

[crimson edge]

what build is using two handed mace with slow on hit?

[toxic hull]

And if there’s no listing cap, every single item prices will just keep rising and rising.

[shut cradle]

I mean let's do some math to see how much gold is being injected into the economy,
150,000 players at launch, assume the intended 50/50 split so 75000 players playing MG
skip to monos, and let's say all of these players are playing 8 hours a day
That's 600,000 daily hours. Now if we let all these players be uber efficient machines and say they're doing 15 monos / hour (breaks n life stuff)
9 million mono's a day.
It's everyone's lucky day and we all get 15k gold per mono. 135 billion gold into the economy a day.
Change the numbers around based on whatever you like and it's still billions, no wonder the 1.5B cap get's reached so fast even without exploits

Need a bigger tax/gold sink in the game because the 15% market tax doesn't stabilise the market until there's 900 billion wealth around (then it takes as much out as there get's put in)

Higher/lower depending on the actual numbers

but with close to a trillion no wonder everything high end is gold capped

[teal willow]

Yeah gold is meaningless at a point with the current system. You're eventually playing rank 0 COF at a certain point of gear on MG

Since nothing you need is being put in AH and being sold third party with more than likely real money

[pulsar crescent]

I don't think this is true?

The majority of first Uber kills were mg cuz that was before insane inflation

Like for context my first Uber kills was 4 days in when lp1 red rings were only 50mil

Most major build creators are cof because they find the game more fun as a cof player

[teal willow]

I dunno

Every video I saw it had cof tags

And every expert

Doesn't matter now tho

MG is beyond cooked atm

[pulsar crescent]

That's what a gold exploit will do to mg

[teal willow]

I can make gold cap per day. But it literally doesn't matter

Nothing I need is on AH

And I play meme builds that need gear badly

[pulsar crescent]

This is assuming there are 75k ppl degening the game which is far from accurate. The majority of this games player base is far more casual. I do agree there should be more gold sinks, but there's nothing u can do when there are gold exploits

Tho changing gold cap would definitely help

[teal willow]

Yeah

I don't even log on much these days. Have like 10 billion in the sales tab incoming but who cares

If nothing is on AH lol

Make money to just stare and look at?

Was season 1 this bad too?

[pulsar crescent]

Season 0 was

I believe the season reset in between 1.1->1.2 was fine