💰┃merchants-guild

[signal leaf]

Yes

[teal willow]

Oh i use that

I got lucky with one item so I have 400m

Not enough tho

[wise perch]

So buying whatever you want must mean you either have infinite gold or that the prices of the items of everything you want is substantially less than 1.75 bil

[teal willow]

RR prices jumped too much in that day sadly

[signal leaf]

Why should i need to buy anything for 1.7b?

When i dont need it

[teal willow]

I guess one benefit of mg the season will last much longer for me. If I decide to keep playing

[leaden bay]

Gotta get those LP RRs ig?

[tame forge]

1.75bil items are high LPs of the most chase uniques, it's not like anyone should just be able to get them without a problem

[teal willow]

Vs COF

[tame forge]

If MG prices were too high you could just target farm those bosses and make money

[signal leaf]

Haha ye lol

[teal willow]

COF id probably finish in a week

[wise perch]

I thought 1.75 bil was max price someone would need to pay for an item. Or isit 1.725bil? Not sure.

[tame forge]

but even if you're contesting ES VK items, its still easier to do generic echo farming than target farming harbringers/aberroth

[tame grotto]

It's exactly the same thing as it is with PoE, if you know what sells you can buy everything

[teal willow]

So what should I put in imprint

[signal leaf]

Must exp item i did buy was 75m. Then Nemesis gamba X10

[wise perch]

Ok gotcha. So it's a knowledge gap more than anything. That makes sense.

[teal willow]

And what mono to farm

[signal leaf]

Effecancy+game time too tbh

[wise perch]

What this guy said.

[tame grotto]

Yeah obviously if you play more and do more monos per hour you'll have more loot to sell

[tame grotto]

Ideally things for meta classes

[signal leaf]

Ye ppl play 2-3 h and think they can buy lp2+ and RRsXD

[tame forge]

i use 2x red rings and titan heart in imprints

idk whats better if you dont have a red ring to imprint

probably some other world drop that everyone needs

[leaden bay]

T7 mana on helmet/amulet is decent, T7 increased or hybrid health, T7 int or dex rings are good, obviously T7 Judgement or Erasing Strike are fantastic too

[void acorn]

wdo you guys know whats the price check for selling red ring with +3dexterity?

[tame grotto]

Just make sure that whatever you imprint isn't tagged as untradeable or else you will be very sad

[tame forge]

and get a blessing for ornate idol imo

echo idols still sell for like 100mil+ each

and drop from the idol lizards

[leaden bay]

I need to go through my idol tab at some point

Buncha shit in there to sort

[signal leaf]

i need to clean my dump stash XD

i just keep adding tabs

there is alot of the season still there too

[misty tulip]

how did y ou get red ring without MG tag, just luck?

[tame forge]

yeah thats pure luck

but out of everything, the red ring imprint didn't give much in the end

titan heart drops from the imprint have been like 10* more profitable

so idk if imprinting rarer stuff is the way

[signal leaf]

redrings are you only 170m XD

[leaden bay]

Imprint Jungle Queen's Chaps. Those things are rare but super common for LP so any drops you get may as well be money printing with Nemesis at the very least.

[signal leaf]

thets how i craft my own gear

buy 10 lp 0

nemesis them and pray

[misty tulip]

should i buy the 170million red ring and just put it in imprinter

any build I actually want to play really wants them

[signal leaf]

they will drop cant be traded

[leaden bay]

Nah you'll get back untradeable ones

[misty tulip]

yeah but then...what do i farm as lol

the shitty version of my builds?

[signal leaf]

No build need redrings XD

[misty tulip]

doesn't need but its just a lot worse

[leaden bay]

Its not "a lot worse"

[signal leaf]

is like the last item you buy in this gamne

[misty tulip]

Runemaster?

[leaden bay]

It's like, marginally worse

[misty tulip]

its the STR Runemaster

[signal leaf]

and most of the time you use them for the dr

[leaden bay]

Buddy I think guide makers have gaslit you

[misty tulip]

yeah most guidemakers are COF and kinda had their gear handed to them first 2 days

i shouldn't expect that gear as MG

Ill try two different rings

[signal leaf]

and they play 40h in 2 days

[misty tulip]

with STR

exalted with STR

[tame forge]

tbf the current guides are ridiculous on MG

[leaden bay]

No build in the entire game needs Red Rings, it's just minmax luxury shit

[tame forge]

"starter" maxroll builds have idols worth 1.5bil

[misty tulip]

oof

[signal leaf]

maxlol

[leaden bay]

Maxtroll

[signal leaf]

redring is nice becus of the damage reduction

[leaden bay]

Me omw to shove Twisted Heart into a build because "20% life is insane, please ignore that every other stat does nothing on this build"

[signal leaf]

XD

[jaunty pond]

yea mate, every weavers strat i find on youtube is definitely for CoF. i cant even afford one of the idols i need 7 of 😄 (they all like 100+mill each)

kinda considering rerolling cof

[tame forge]

CoF weaver strats work fine for MG

lostwood + false temple spamming with some trove maps in-between is ok

[misty tulip]

I currently have blood roost imprinted in 3 slots

or 2

[leaden bay]

That works

Blood Roost is good

[misty tulip]

Yeah thats where most of my gold came from i only got 300m tho since im low Corruption still

since i had to work for a week...

away from PC

[jaunty pond]

i did that, just got some gold and the occasional t7. But I do think i should setup better duplication nodes as i havent really put anything good in those

[misty tulip]

Hard to get red rings. Should I be using all my Runes of Ascension on dropped rings right

[signal leaf]

ofc yes

[misty tulip]

If I buy the 80million legendary red ring can that be imprinted?

[full forum]

sits down with my sunday morning coffee
"23 items sold"
good morning MG'ers

[misty tulip]

yeah it will be bind on pickup but just for myself

[leaden bay]

I'm just shy of 150 ascendance runes in without even an Oceareon, hopefully my bad RNG is just funneling all the good to you guys

[tame forge]

i did 150 ascendances too and got nothing special either

[leaden bay]

Yep that'll work if you just want to farm another for yourself

[tame forge]

its 1/700 tho right

[misty tulip]

or can we not put legendary in imprinter

[tame forge]

or something equally ridiculous

[misty tulip]

I did hear someone say legendary can't be imprinted

or at least it wont procc

[leaden bay]

It won't drop more legendaries, just the base unique

[misty tulip]

and can be lp0-3 random depending on corruption level?

[leaden bay]

Yup

[misty tulip]

i know i worked my way up to lp2 bloodrost from a lp0 bloodroost. via imprinting

even on like 150c

[leaden bay]

Though the LP boost from corruption is rather slim.

I don't have the chart on hand, I'd have to sift through Cyborgwars' messages to find it, but he's done a lot of simulating and graphing of how corruption affects things

[misty tulip]

is that treasure box weaver map the best for imprint farming

[leaden bay]

Maybe? I've only done it once. I'm not sure what works on woven echoes and what doesn't.

[jaunty pond]

kinda interested in trying that farm ye with the constant reset whenever you dont find nodes early

[misty tulip]

ye?

[tame grotto]

The only maxroll guy that actually knows his shit is Lizard_irl rest of them is just making stuff up

[tame forge]

regardless, they are still very popular and seem to dictate MG prices

most expensive affixes and items are 1:1 with the ES VK guide

[tame grotto]

Yeah maxroll in general is a pretty popular site that people come for builds but you kinda have to watch out who made the guides unless you want to get jebaited

[misty tulip]

only 9 lp1 red rings in market. rising in price like 10% per hour. Now 1.1bill

i bought a legendary to imprint. i really just want a few for my build just in case, they will probably be gold cap soon and rather have it sooner than later to use.

[leaden bay]

He's a little kooky sometimes. If you criticize him he flies off the handle pretty quick.

[tame grotto]

I'm not judging him as a person, I'm judging him based on the quality of his content

[leaden bay]

Fair ig. He does still make some questionable choices imo. He's one of the ones who throws Twisted Heart in things constantly just for health and strength. Like, sure it's helpful at like 5k corruption, but even that's only helpful for a little while longer until no amount of defense and health can save you. Y'know?

[winter tartan]

hi guys how do i search bazaar for the nihilis stats i want?
or is it not possible?

[tame forge]

i dont think its possible rn

[teal willow]

Has anyone done research on what happens to legendary items in imprinter

[lean imp]

I've been playing CoF ever since, How is Merchant's guild? as in like do i need to farm like 20 mill gold for a 1LP anchor of oblivion type stuff? or is it not that bad?

[signal leaf]

you buy lp 0 and use nemesis

if not like the lp 1 is cheep

[compact patio]

Meta items have absurd prices and rest is worthless imo

[hidden gyro]

WTB good Reign of winter alredy enchanted at leggendary with atlast t7 atkspeedcrit and t6 crit multi

[tame grotto]

Just your usual trading experience of people complaining about inflation and expecting to get everything right away, if that's not your thing then you should probably stick to CoF

If you don't mind dealing with live economy then you should be fine

[jaunty pond]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c85gAulCpEs

think it was this

[teal willow]

Cof is better atm by a good deal.

Thanks to weaver tree interacting with prophecies

[wise perch]

What's MG like in Hardcore?

[tawdry estuary]

So are we getting a fix/patch for the duping issue? 😂

[wind grotto]

Probably and they said they are going to be banning the people for abusing the system

[tawdry estuary]

Yeah but MG is ruined rip

[compact olive]

sadly there is no recovering of the economy

[tawdry estuary]

Yeah it's a big gg

[dull rover]

Did they confirm the dupe that is obviously on?

[tawdry estuary]

Sold my world splitter 2 lp 2 days ago for 44m

It's 800m+ now

[tawdry estuary]

1000% there is a dupe going on

Like some uniques having more value than other for rerollin purposes make sense

[dull rover]

i know there is

im just asking

if ehg confirmed it

[tawdry estuary]

But some idols have gone up 5000% in 1 day is xd

Will they ever confirm it? Idk

[dull rover]

im refering to this

[compact olive]

yeah it's super obvious something is generating infinite gold. no other way rmt could be so insanely cheap

[dull rover]

yes

in 1.0 literally u could get up to 3 milion ggold per 1 echo. gold generation back then was 10 times higher. and prices were 20x times lower xd

[wise perch]

Is the dupe in Legacy, Cycle, or both?

[buoyant magnet]

i wish i could make new accs since i have gold caps from idols

rmt+botfarms and/or dupe

[tawdry estuary]

Probably both

I'd just go CoF if I was you guys

[buoyant magnet]

money shouldnt be used for trading, only favor

[tawdry estuary]

Waste of time genuinely

[buoyant magnet]

would fix everything forever

[dull rover]

whatever just fix gold dupe

and add gold sinks

this cycle is unrecorable

but favour only is stupid

[tawdry estuary]

Gold sinks are in the game rn with the rerolling of legendaries

[buoyant magnet]

a good gold sink would be being able to roll for uniques like red ring for 1bil

[tawdry estuary]

It adds value to shit which is good

[compact olive]

MG is just kinda bricked forever unless you rmt or play 18 hours daily. i'm going cof next patch or if i decide to suffer more this patch

[dull rover]

its bricked for 'legit' rmters as well, cause dupe abusers already wed them out xd

[tawdry estuary]

Find an item that's expensive and farm it if you want infinite money aswell

The pigeons will buy it off of you

[compact olive]

while that is true, being able to hit gold cap over and over is stupid

[dull rover]

ye im farming 2 bilion gold in like 6 hours of uber aberoth

[tawdry estuary]

Yeah that's so dumb imoi

Bought a couple shattered world for 20m couple days ago

[buoyant magnet]

as ive said, trading should only be done via favor and gold should not be part of it, no way to rmt or dupe favor

mg fixed

[tawdry estuary]

Now the prices are just xd

[compact olive]

i assume gold cap is one of the few things keeping gold from having literally zero value and good items being worth 50 billion

[buoyant magnet]

gold cap is a programming thing mostly

integer

[dull rover]

so you want ehg to ignore duping problem by making favor only? thats stupid. just fix duping thats it xd

[compact olive]

MG is just zimbabwe simulator :kekw:

[buoyant magnet]

fixing duping wont fix rmt

and new dupes will occur in the future

[dull rover]

how is rmt without duping harmful

except annoying global messages

in poe it wasnt

[buoyant magnet]

its annoying to see the spam

[tawdry estuary]

Yeah but making it so it's only favour makes duping useless

[compact olive]

yeah, it is. they could increase it if they wished though

[tawdry estuary]

Cuz wtf are you gonna sell

You can't sell favors

[buoyant magnet]

yeah but poe has no players tencent double dips with rmt profit

[jaunty pond]

RMT drives value of things upwards

because ingame currency becomes more valuable

[limber moss]

do you think they will lift 1.750kkk on market anytime soon?

[dull rover]

rmt without any dupes and exploits is not even harmful to the game

[compact olive]

rmt creates inflation but nowhere near the level we're seeing right now

[dull rover]

poe did fine for 10 years with massive rmt

but no dupes

[tawdry estuary]

Yup

[buoyant magnet]

they should cap prices on market to 100mil gold really

instead of lift the 1.75 cap

[tawdry estuary]

I mean the infrastructure is different though

[jaunty pond]

anyways i have 2-3 i need to replace to swap to cof which ill probably do

[buoyant magnet]

thatd be a nice short term fix

[dull rover]

thats dumb

so every vauable item will be 100m

and no one would sell anything valuable

assuming dupes exist

[buoyant magnet]

market is already screwed, gold cap has no value

[compact olive]

lmao everything is just gonna be worth 100 mil gold then since the rmt and dupers will be sitting on infinite gold and wont be able to spend it

[limber moss]

'

[buoyant magnet]

market can just be an easy way of sharing drops

[tawdry estuary]

Having only favor being the buying factor would solve a lot of issues

Genuinely

[dull rover]

no cause you would farm favor like an idiot instead of actually playing the game and selling items worth something

that would be so bad lol

[compact olive]

until people find a way to print favor with cheats :kekw:

[tawdry estuary]

It's the same

[buoyant magnet]

selling items worth something gives favor

wheres the issue

[wise perch]

Has EHH acknowledged this most recent dupe at all?

[tawdry estuary]

You're farming for something that gives you the ability to buy something else

[dull rover]

so favor = gold

except favor is harder to dupe

[tawdry estuary]

But that something you can't trade

[dull rover]

nah i dont like it

[tawdry estuary]

Yes

You can't do anything with favor

Because it holds no value

I can't give you my favor

[dull rover]

just fix dupes and keep gold like it is, while adding more g old sinks

[tame marsh]

Depends, did you post it and show them?

[dull rover]

ez

[buoyant magnet]

just like gold kek

[tawdry estuary]

If I buy your item for 100m favor, you don't get my favor

[buoyant magnet]

the game needs an absolute gold sink

[compact olive]

this is really the only way to fix the problem. sadly, it's not easy

[buoyant magnet]

e.g a guaranteed 2LP generator for 500mil

that would hardcap any market price

[dull rover]

well poe somehow didnt have major dupe issue

[buoyant magnet]

otherwise ppl find new exploits every time

[dull rover]

and if it did it got fixed within 2 hours max or sth

[tawdry estuary]

But you can't compare the 2 of the games

PoE was made to avoid this shit

The entire game was built around avoiding shit like this

[dull rover]

i can, since poe is insanely more complex, so more ways to actually dupe something

[buoyant magnet]

poe devs are behind the botfarms its a different story

[dull rover]

in last epoch should be easier to prevent it

[compact olive]

poe is a larger and more experienced team that took on development at a much slower rate

[tawdry estuary]

Complexity has nothing to do with it

It's how to the game itself was made

[buoyant magnet]

theres a reason none of the rmt gets fixed and the game is "balanced around trade"

[tawdry estuary]

Impossible to dupe in poe

Legit impossible

[dull rover]

complexitiy means more possible loopholes to find to exploit the system

ehg kinda doesnt have excuses for that dupes clownfiesta

[tawdry estuary]

No, i'm talking about HOW the game is made

HOW

The actual game

Like CODING

[compact olive]

false since there have been dupes with instance crashing. it's much harder so your point is still correct

[tawdry estuary]

Yes, error duping and shit but you can't reproduce it

And they find it instantly

Like items being duped and on the market in poe has never happened

[buoyant magnet]

temporalis lol

[tawdry estuary]

Poe

Not 2

[buoyant magnet]

oh, no1 plays that shit

[tawdry estuary]

???

[buoyant magnet]

most of the players are botfarms lmao

[compact olive]

poe2 or poe1?

[buoyant magnet]

1

[dull rover]

poe 1

[tawdry estuary]

poe1 lol

[buoyant magnet]

2 as well to be fair

[dull rover]

i start to think d4 is better than poe 2

[tawdry estuary]

I'm not talking about poe2 lol

[compact olive]

was gonna say poe2 is botted MUCH heavier

[buoyant magnet]

yeah 2 is new

[tawdry estuary]

Ofc it is

[dull rover]

ye poe 2 bots are insane

[buoyant magnet]

ofc its botted harder

[tawdry estuary]

Lot more new players in poe2 than poe1

[buoyant magnet]

tencent is behind the bots so they double dip profits

[tawdry estuary]

So lot more pigeons to buy shit

[buoyant magnet]

game+shit drop design to entice rmt

its easy to fix the rmt problem and fix trade in 2 but will never happen for money reasons

tencent does this in multiple of their games

[compact olive]

so doesn't your point even apply more to poe2 than poe1? i don't understand what you're trying to say other than mindlessly insulting a game for fun

[dull rover]

poe 2 won't fix botting right now, cause player count would drop literally twice

[buoyant magnet]

applies to 1 as well

[dull rover]

it would be 30k instead of 60k

[buoyant magnet]

regardless imo favor should be the trade currency

[dull rover]

no

[buoyant magnet]

you cant buy it and you cant really get more from it by duping

[tawdry estuary]

Yeah idk, people refuse to farm in poe1

Which is crazy

[compact olive]

bad idea and shows a lack of understanding of how things work

[tawdry estuary]

Poe2 doesnt drop shit, poe1 is a clownfiesta with drops

[buoyant magnet]

poe1 is more of a prestige thing of bad players

[dull rover]

tbh cof drops more than poe 1

[jaunty pond]

poe1 is amazing, not a clownfiesta

[buoyant magnet]

grind to 100 yourself and youll see what I mean

game is about as easy as it can get with no guides you can clear any content with some brains

[tawdry estuary]

Yes it is, I never said it wasn't dw

[buoyant magnet]

but its tedious and some people want to hide behind that to make it seem elite which is funny, people defending it have vested interests in rmt or selling services always has been

[dull rover]

it seems like they made poe 1 good by accident, and forgot totally how to do it in poe 2

[buoyant magnet]

no wonder no1 plays it

[compact olive]

last epoch is definitely the easier game. also, what's wrong with a game being easy? and feel free to link your account here so we can see your immense accolades

[buoyant magnet]

yeah thts a theory some friends of mine have had as well

[dull rover]

why is game being easy bad. btw you play last epoch

[tawdry estuary]

I think poe2 made poe1 better lmao

[buoyant magnet]

game started out bad but they did some really good updates and just kind of lucked into a good game when d3 was at its worst, but if you look at their updates theyre mostly trash and the lack of builds considering the system mechanics is evident

[buoyant magnet]

you miss my point, what I mean is poe1 is really easy but people pretend its elite due to the surface level complexity you can interact with

[compact olive]

this has to be rage bait, right? i'm sure no one seriously has this little of a clue what's going on

[buoyant magnet]

nah its my opinion as well

games ass

[tawdry estuary]

The knowledge of the game is "elite"

Or reserved for the ppl that have played it a lot

[jaunty pond]

several things poe2 does better than 1. Also poe2 is in EA, its obvious they are easing things out instead of making things too bountiful then nerfing cause thatll just cause outcry. My two big issues with poe2 is 1) campaign is too tediously long for alts or even just a second runthrough. 2) End game is a bit tedious

[tawdry estuary]

It's just facts

[buoyant magnet]

if it was godlike it wouldnt sit at 2k players, other games dont need updates who are godlike to retain a larger audience

[dull rover]

TLDR: two issues: early game bad. end game bad

[buoyant magnet]

ngl biggest issue of poe2 is that endgame exists

delete endgame, make 40hour+ real story campaign

[tawdry estuary]

LOL

[buoyant magnet]

have endgame be ng+ campaign like tl2

[tawdry estuary]

They'll never do this

[compact olive]

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/MadCuzDev-5813 link your profile so we can see you're at least not just making things up. i'm nowhere near the top players but i'm decent

[buoyant magnet]

if you look at the reviews it makes sense, all the positives was during campaign

all the negative is the shit endgam

[tawdry estuary]

They know mapping and shit works since it's by far the best end game system of any arpgs

[compact olive]

i just wanna confirm you actually have experience backing your claims

[buoyant magnet]

and truthfully the campaign is fun it feels like what they want it to be but endgame only few builds work and you get no drops and all mechanics suck and you get 1splinter from 500000 for 1boss

[sullen valve]

That's because the endgame only had like 3-4 months of dev time

[buoyant magnet]

some people said endgame is just copy paste, down to the code, of poe1 so i find that believable

[sullen valve]

Yes it was, a,most 1:1

[tawdry estuary]

Idk, it's not innovative though

Nothing to boast about or any of that

Breach, expeditions, exiles

[compact olive]

it's very different endgame compared to poe1.... what? have you even launched poe1 or poe2 before?

[tawdry estuary]

It's all poe1 shit

Nothing new

[buoyant magnet]

poe2 repeats the same mistake of the genre since d3 tho, people liked d2 for the dnd campaign

not endgame grind

what do games do after it? endgame focus

[barren flicker]

The gigantic corruption maps that take 15 minutes to walk through are very innovative

[sullen valve]

No, they power scaling was PoE1. They only shifted away from it starting with 0.2

[dull rover]

ok stop talking about poe 1 xD
just spam this chat with dupes discussion, maybe it will encourage ehg to look into it more closely

[buoyant magnet]

launch poe2 endgame was basically poe1, mobs are just as fast and deal comparable damage

only you play poe2, enemies play poe1

[tawdry estuary]

They 100% know about it lmaooo

[buoyant magnet]

thats why anything not spark is unplaable garbage because you need to instaclear screens

[tawdry estuary]

They probably dont give a f 😂

[buoyant magnet]

well even if ehg fixes dupe, what then

economy is screwed

[dull rover]

well how is it hard to track. just take any rmt seller that sells billions of gold for couple bucks and track the gold

[buoyant magnet]

ive been selling mana/manahp idols nonstop

[sullen valve]

I'm just gonna finish maxing MG, then I'll move to CoF if I still can't find what I need

[buoyant magnet]

gold cap is like peanuts now

how do u fix that

all i do is farm low level maps

[barren flicker]

I run ice autobomber so everything is just frozen so monster speed or strength doesn't really effect me. I just can't play it cause I'm bored out of my mind playing walking simulator

[tawdry estuary]

Farm a bit of money and then just switch

Pointless to keep going mg

[buoyant magnet]

the only time to play mg is first few days

i got all my important uniques on lp4 for less than 1mil

lets be real here kek

[sullen valve]

My problem is really not the mkney thiugh, it's people not posting the items I need haha

That or they get sniped very fast

[tawdry estuary]

Play CoF, and selfarm the items

[sullen valve]

Obviously, but it's going to take some adjustments to move from 700+ corr with no equipment

[tawdry estuary]

Huh what

[barren flicker]

I liked the campaign and I would have liked to learn the routes and participate in the speed run events but they botched all the routes in act 1 and made a whole ton of unnecessary changes to act 3 idk it just made me not want to pursue that anymore, then the endgame got worse, and crafting still trash, less abilities, idk just really bad game rn

[elder silo]

hey guys, would I get banned if I give gold to my friend?

[dull rover]

maybe, but after that if you explained it you would get unbanned

probably not

[tawdry estuary]

If you bought the gold and got found out probably lmao

[sullen valve]

I can't equip my MG items once I switch. I'll be back down to 100-200 corr

[dull rover]

you would have to do it via bazaar tho

[stable prairie]

if u buy it from china dupers =yes)

[tawdry estuary]

Is that how it works?

Idk, i'd remake and entire character if I was you lmao

[dull rover]

btw there is simple solution to all the exploits. separate asia region xd

[tawdry estuary]

Hahahahaha the ULTIMATE solution

[stable prairie]

they can use proxy😂

[tawdry estuary]

I remember when they did it in pubg/h1 and shit

[buoyant magnet]

the real solution is to be ahead of the dupe inflation

[sullen valve]

Well yeah, otherwise you'd just always do MG first then go COF once high corruption to push better items through prophecies

[tawdry estuary]

Still happened

[buoyant magnet]

i sold 2 small idols and made enough money to buy 6 red rings

[dull rover]

what happened

[tawdry estuary]

They had banned the regions from playing with other regions lmaoooo

Because of cheating issues 😂 😂

[stable prairie]

yes sold for dupers gold😂

[tawdry estuary]

Like the stats on cheating was so unreal

[buoyant magnet]

not my problem

[stable prairie]

yes) the developers don't care)

[dull rover]

i would say something more about asia region but i would get banned

[buoyant magnet]

people will just quit the game then

dupers pretty much buy everything

removing the gold is equal to killing the game

i farm items and sell it for market price

[stable prairie]

no fix dupe= kill game too)

[buoyant magnet]

yea

[dull rover]

i mean at least with fixed dupe, the 15% tax would do something

cause with that much gold already present in market, it would actually decrease with the tax

so prices would kinda stay the same

maybe slightly lower

[stable prairie]

A year has passed and nothing has changed, very weak developers who cannot understand their code.

[sullen valve]

There are dupes in each poe and d4 seasons as well, so...

[dull rover]

poe didnt have major dupe in 10 years

biggest dupe was like sanctum divs that was fixed after 1 hour

[stable prairie]

but in poe fast fix and bans

[tawdry estuary]

Poe1 duping?

[dull rover]

and barely inflated anything

[tawdry estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/where-you-at-gif-21177622

[compact olive]

even if there was a gold dupe in poe, it doesn't matter outside of phrecia

also feel free to quote ANY evidence to gold dupe in poe since we both know you're speaking from between your cheeks

[dull rover]

ye he speaks nonsense

[tawdry estuary]

But even if gold dupe was a thing in poe

Wtf do you do with gold

Respec?

Bratan

Like it's pointless genuinely you can't do anything with it

[dull rover]

you could decrease idol prices xD

[compact olive]

it's funny since it provdes ramza not only has zero evidence but also hasn't actually played poe

[tawdry estuary]

The last actual duping shit in poe that I remember of

[compact olive]

yeah, i should say phrecia is an exception. infinite gold during phrecia would be op af

[tawdry estuary]

Was some shit with tasuni's window

[dull rover]

btw idk if its a dupe. but when i kill like 5 harbingers, then i die to 6th. i drop looot from last 5 harbingers that i didnt pick up xD

is it intended?

[tawdry estuary]

But this is like looooong time ago

[dull rover]

anyone knows chinese? just go to some chinese rmt forums, i'm sure they describe gold dupes there with details

[tawdry estuary]

Ehg probably already does that

Or i'd like to think they do

[dull rover]

kinda racist tho

xD

[tawdry estuary]

Nah why?

It's a cold hard fact, they cheat way more than any other region

[dull rover]

now say same thing about crimes commited by other group

[buoyant magnet]

cheating is part of their culture

[tawdry estuary]

Then what?

[dull rover]

see why it might seem to be perceived as racist

[buoyant magnet]

anything to win

[sullen valve]

They cheat because they can make money off it.

[tawdry estuary]

If it's fact, it's not racist or anything brother

[tawdry estuary]

I know

[dull rover]

thats bad excuse

[tawdry estuary]

Depends where you live

[dull rover]

so can we make profit

yet we dont cheatr

[buoyant magnet]

chinese culture rewards winning in everything

[tawdry estuary]

Some people live in terrible country with bad economy and cheating makes them 100x more money than any job

[buoyant magnet]

cheating makes you win

not cheating in china makes you a loser and an outcast

nothing else

[tawdry estuary]

But not china lmao

[dull rover]

thats kinda pathetic

[buoyant magnet]

if they beat you in a pvp game by cheating then youre the loser

you could also cheat but you choose to lose

[sullen valve]

Even with cheating, they still lose to legit players lol

[tawdry estuary]

Cheating doesn't give you 100% winrates lol

It doesn't make you immortal

Wait unless the cheat makes you so

[buoyant magnet]

case specific

[tawdry estuary]

LOL

I mean, i'd take my dopamine of shitting on a cheater

Anyday

Than them killing people while looking at netflix

If you cheat without the "money" thing you're a lost cause

[sullen valve]

But if they banned and I don't. Who really lost?

[tawdry estuary]

It's been like this forever

[buoyant magnet]

make new acc

[tawdry estuary]

Who cares, if they make money they can just buy the account back

And do the same shit over and over

[dull rover]

changing the subject.
im disappointed they didnt find the dupes yet.
But what i really hate, is all those suckers on reddit and forums, that use extreme mental gymnastics to defend the claim 'THERE ARE NO DUPES' whatever it takes

[tawdry estuary]

Yeah lol

[buoyant magnet]

why would you ever use reddit

[tawdry estuary]

I said the same shit 2 days ago when nothing was going on bout certain uniques

But then yesterday shit go way too out of control lol

[wise perch]

People on discord are saying it too. Has EHG made any public statements concerning the dupe?

[tawdry estuary]

My guess is that they won't say shit unless they do everything to take care of it

[sullen valve]

I don't usually answer to these kind of taunts, but whatever.

[tawdry estuary]

To avoid scaring people that don't know

[buoyant magnet]

then spam it everywhere

[hallow nova]

Do we have any evidence or solid proof that there is a dupe

[sullen valve]

at the very least I can't farm 100M gold from gold piles in a day or two xD

[tawdry estuary]

But check the bazaar man lmao

[half schooner]

just check the bazaar bro

[tawdry estuary]

Idk how you explain generating 50000b gold

[half schooner]

the same happened S1

[dull rover]

yes, rmt prices, item prices, less gold generation than previosus cycles while there also were dupes, and the fact that prices are way higher than backthen

[half schooner]

obvious dupes issue again

[tawdry estuary]

Items going up is fine, but items going up by 50x in 1 day is obvious

[dull rover]

and now they cant go any higher, cause prices already cant rly go higher, you will just see no high value items cause they wil be instantly sniped

for 1.5b

[hallow nova]

Really? I just farmed 60m in 2hrs. 2 orian, crap VK whatever idol for echo. Just spamming folly temple temple temple trove.

[dull rover]

you farmed item, not gold bro.

you just answered yourself

[half schooner]

"from golds piles "

[compact olive]

it's not a taunt and you're lying otherwise you'd take the 10 seconds to screenshot your playtime or literally any other form of proof

[sullen valve]

I have the screenshot. I just don't feel like I owe you anything though.

[half schooner]

60M now mean almost nothing compared to 3/4 days ago

[compact olive]

everyone here already knows you're a compulsive liar so that's okay. we can agree to disagree

[half schooner]

the market is doomed

[tawdry estuary]

I sold items for 100m+

[wise perch]

I'm questioning my sanity whenever I go through the trouble of listing an item for 15k.

[hallow nova]

Why would you target farm gold tho? Isnt the point of MG is trade?

[tawdry estuary]

That were worth 5m a day ago

It's pretty obvious lmao

[sullen valve]

Yeah, my only mistake was using the term gold to include D4 in my sentence when I obviously meant any dupe, but whatever dude lol

[tawdry estuary]

Duping is still non existent in poe1

[half schooner]

the LP4 relic i wanted went from 22M to 350m lmao

[compact olive]

i do it since i enjoy that it helps the players that haven't progressed very far

[tawdry estuary]

Don't matter if it's gold or items

It still don't exist lol

[sullen valve]

That's cute.

[tawdry estuary]

What is cute?

[compact olive]

yeah, you should elaborate on this, please

[sullen valve]

It's true it's fixed very fast, but it exists almost every league.

[tawdry estuary]

Yes hence why i'm saying it don't exist

Everything is server sided, you can't get away with dupes

They have system in place that track it

[compact olive]

i'm actually god and have determined YOU ARE WRONG. dont question me please i have zero evidence just believe me

[tawdry estuary]

You cannot dupe and make money in poe1

They will 100% catch you

[sullen valve]

Sure, I don't mind having opposite opinion. We can agree to disagree.

[compact olive]

well tbf it's not an opinion. you are factually lying

[sullen valve]

Sure.

[hallow nova]

What kinds of items are these and the affixes? I play bleed hammerdin / VK erasing strike.

Only items I saw that have skyrocketed in prices are hybrid health, t7 strength, and VK/falconer items

[tawdry estuary]

It's whatever anyway

I know i'm correct, I smoke the game every league

I would've known if duping was a thing in poe1

[sullen valve]

So do I, although I made a time leap for a few years.

[tawdry estuary]

Like I said, it happened but no one ever has made bank off of it

[tawdry estuary]

Brother man, just go look at world splitter 2 lp for example

[compact olive]

even some of the +level mage affixes which very few people use have gone up. for example, fireball has increased in price

[tawdry estuary]

Hmu if you want more example of items

[sullen valve]

True, but that wasn't the point. The other guy attacked the devs and their code. I just pointed out PoE had its issues as well.

[tawdry estuary]

Ofc, it's just the way they handle it is different

With so many players it's almost impossible to NOT have dupes and shit happen

It's literally not possible

[sullen valve]

That's exactly my point

[tawdry estuary]

The way I read it was like "ppl dupe and make money off of it in poe"

Which isn't the case

People get caught and banned if they do it

[compact olive]

your point has changed several times now as you've realized you've been caught lying over and over dude

[sullen valve]

Indeed, well most of the time anyway

[sullen valve]

I've not changed anything. I just gave a precision for gold being indeed a mistake and meant all dupes.

[compact olive]

okay then at LEAST link your profile here

[sullen valve]

Look, you don't want to accept PoE had issues as well, that's fine, that's your right, I don't mind. Just stop trying to make it personal now, I won't take the bait.

[compact olive]

there is no bait. just prove you've said a single true thing once in your life and i'll say sorry

[sullen valve]

The reason I'm not posting the "proof" is because you'll move the goal post elsewhere afterwards such as "You didn't play enough" or "Only X achievements" or whatever you'll come up with to continue this charade. Like I said, I won't take the bait.

[compact olive]

i knew it

[tawdry estuary]

Achievements don't mean shit in poe1

It's just if you wanna do them or not

[compact olive]

i was literally just looking for a high level character with good gear or anything. i don't expect you to be #1 in races or have 30 level 100 characters

[sullen valve]

Playing offmeta self-made build, that's for sure I won't win races lol

[tawdry estuary]

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Xpaniq-4205

I don't have shit for achievements

Like actually 0

[compact olive]

at that's fine. i really just wanted proof that they've even beat the camapaign and aren't on a salt spree complaining because hillock farmed them lmao

[sullen valve]

I got a few over the years without trying

[tawdry estuary]

Hahahaha nah not me

This is the 2nd account, the first account got lost in the sauce when the "steam" thing got added and shit

[compact olive]

well yes some are literally beat the first boss ROFL

[sullen valve]

The only time hillock farmed me was in the gautlet for 5 minutes because I dind't have the attack timing right to turn around

[hallow nova]

Are normal players really get affected by gold dupe (if there's really any like a 100% proof and whatever scientific shit to prove that there's a dupe)

Just asking. just wanna know if your characters cant actully clear content without spending ridiculous amounts of gold?

(I have spent less than 20M to build hammerdin and was able to facetank t4 bosses and abby)

[tawdry estuary]

Depends on how to value things and play the game

Gold holds no value atm

[sullen valve]

Alas, the roa ended my career later on anyway.

[tawdry estuary]

I had 100m a couple days ago

It's worth more than 10b rn

Probably even more

[buoyant magnet]

depends on what u wanna play

if you play cheatmode i.e. senintel all ur shit is unaffordable

if you play a normal class its ok

[compact olive]

there are lots of builds that can do all content without access to any faction, so it's not really a concern whether or not things are doable. my main issue is MG doesn't feel fun when lots of cool items are completely unobtainable without massive luck getting meta drops or RMT

[sullen valve]

the problem is the sniping mostly, at least for me, I can't even find items with stats I need to slam

I'm not even looking for some super offmeta shit, just something close to what the Judgement Paladin would use, I'm on the Aura

[signal leaf]

they cant buy 2lp redrings becus trhere builds says so

[wise perch]

It also depends on what your end game goals are. Some people are fine beating the campaign then making a new character. Others want to max out their gear and push corruption as high as they can.

[devout flame]

in the weaver tree i can higher the droip chance of items that can drop randomly e.g. "Red Ring of Atlaria". I know that Boss Drops don't work?!
But does "Ravenous Void" work?? Becouse it can drop randomly and from a boss. (source i use: https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/unique)

[split wave]

Yes, RV can drop anywhere, so it works

[signal leaf]

if there is it goal it should take more then a week tbh

RR is a luxary item for exampel

evcen if you buy it i promes you cant afford right stats on all parts

[devout flame]

k thanks

[still patrol]

Is there a decent loot filter that will show all the items worth picking up and trying to sell ?

[fleet canopy]

Guys I'm at 70k gold and I'm trying to sell stuff in order to get gold for my Lich, but nothing is bought. Any recommendations on what I should focus on selling to get some easy gold?

[random gulch]

any ideas how to increase portal charms drop rate?

[teal willow]

Unless you play COF

[signal leaf]

do it in a few days then

[teal willow]

Yeah COF is pretty awesome I'll probably just switch soon

Gonna be rough having no gear though

For a few days

[signal leaf]

why ?

you should be fulled geared in 3 days

[teal willow]

Can't use mg gear

[signal leaf]

with a new toon

[teal willow]

I'm gonna change faction on current main

That way don't have to be in a race. Just gear at the same pace as all the top players

[placid canyon]

collect high value T7's and sell um there not too hard to find

[misty tulip]

Why did the price go up again 2x of everything last night

i can't even do the base build

for a meme mage build

[copper spoke]

how do i use this chat exactly ??

[peak niche]

You just type stuff into it and other people read it n stuff. We're just people who play LE in here, so no need to be shy

[misty tulip]

Every other COF player using 2 1lp red rings while barely playing lol.

MG at least makes the season last longer.

[still patrol]

I dont have any red rings at all

its a big sad

[devout flame]

prices are getting ridiculous

[buoyant magnet]

yes a dupe is going around

[devout flame]

so.... changing guilds.....

[buoyant magnet]

well with or without trading isa lways only for people who grind 18hrs a day or do rmt

[carmine minnow]

My next build (in a couple weeks probably gonna be CoF with prices like that)

[sullen valve]

how's light harbour strategy during duping times? They nerfed it or still doing good?

[sullen valve]

Could be worse, you could have one, sell it before inflation and forget to imprint it

[hidden gyro]

WTB (MG i'm lv12)
reing of winter
t7 % Critical Strike Chance 25% increased Bow Attack Speed
t5+ crit multi

[tired oar]

Mg is something you are supposed to play only during first to two weeks of season

Then prices starts to get ridiculous due to the inflation of Chinese rmt

[still patrol]

It also inflates because their are people popping off with insane builds playing 18 hours a day who you are competting with for buying power. And 50%+ of the server is playing 3 builds, so you are competing heavily for the same items.

[buoyant magnet]

alright time to find that famous chinese rmter for my t27 bow

[signal igloo]

how do I price a Mantle of the Pale ox with t6 attunment and t5 % HP?

[spiral kindle]

500 gold

[spiral kindle]

the price only goes up due to greed, with need/production it only ends up with how many pages of search result.

[carmine cradle]

i got to level 6 in merchant guild, now running content i just dont get any more XP towards the level. I see you gain reputation by spending Favor, but i can only buy garbage at the bazaar. Do i really have to just waste all my money and favor just to level up so i can buy half decent things?

[spiral kindle]

you can also list goods to spend your favor

[carmine cradle]

ughh wow really cant understand the thought process behind that

[spiral kindle]

well MG is a really fail design, but it works

would strongly suggest join Circle of Fortune instead

[carmine cradle]

yeah ok, ty. I joined MG because i just want to buy gear, i hate dealing with 99.9% of drops being trash and having to gamble and spend all day looking at numbers on things. ill look into the other one

[spiral kindle]

oh nah, you just need to fine-filter your drops

MG filter is still trash, you can't filter unique values, so you still have to read through pages after pages

nor can you know which idol has which specific affixes (which wiki has but poorly aligned for reading)

[tired oar]

Yeah so pretty much buy as much as you can during first week while they still cost around 300k at most and you can easily buy it with farmed golf

Before it gets inflated

I always prioritize idols first

[tired oar]

Tldr don't bother using filter

[still patrol]

but yeah, I just looked, and the prices are for real insane and make 0 sense. Like the squrrel helm, 200k no lp 22 mil for 1 lp. If people are really paying that, seems like easy money to do teh nemesis flip

[tired oar]

Just filter with your own eyes on which stuff is worth

[buoyant magnet]

the way to use MG now if you get into it is to not go for your real shit

thatll cost you a liver and a half

items go up more in price than you earn per day farming

you should buy exalted t6 items instead theyre affordable and t6 to t7 is not that much of a difference, make budget legendaries out of them or seal stuff for 5affix gear and get comfortable farming in lower corruption, e.g small weaver idols sell for a fortune with the right rolls you can make millions farming weaver stuff in low corruption, and adjust your tree for e.g wv roll chance for some specific items, and work your way upwards. Eventually you get the chase item drops and the inflation wont matter since that means you also make more for selling it.

[fluid carbon]

Whats the best item to roa? that gives the best roi???

[noble mason]

bazaar having issues listing items for anyone else?

[fading kiln]

Please do. I've been following this channel, and I've read you saying so many times on how x streamer has bis items after 1 day each death etc etc on cof. Now please take the step to convert yourself. I really want to see if the grass is really greener on the other side.

[hidden gyro]

WTB Reign of Winter with t7 CritChance AtkSpeed and t5( or better) crit multi , i'm MG 12

[mighty kite]

sus 🤔

[hollow juniper]

10s of mil per hour ain't that much with current prices kek

[hidden gyro]

bruh toxic

[marble moth]

Anyone has a 1LP Red Ring for sale? around 1200M?

[lethal glen]

mg killed again by rmt and bots..... sad

[marble moth]

true

[lethal glen]

1.2b

gj

[compact patio]

Dumb people rmt

[marble moth]

bro I'm farming uber

its doabl

e

[lethal glen]

warren buffet of last epoch

[compact patio]

In game with offline and mods lol

[lethal glen]

whatever you say my bro

[steel trail]

what happens if i get something sold and it would go over max gold cap if i withdraw it?

[teal willow]

Go COF get five a day

[feral perch]

No, it wont allow you to withdraw

[mighty mist]

Do we switch to cof for refuge

[teal willow]

Cof combined with weaver tree is OP. Yes. People even discussing a likely nerf next season. It's too good atm.

[sullen valve]

Until we have unique stats search and API for automated filter updating based on real-time market data, CoF is always going to have an edge over time anyway, but yeah, it's a bit too effective currently.

[sullen valve]

Just don't forget you can't equip your MG items when you switch, so massive drawback

[teal willow]

If they don't nerf COF: I hope they buff MG by making the UI better , online version , and maybe lower the gold cap so it's like COF and more accessible to fully gear for non sweatlord market monkeys.

[hollow locust]

hey, can someone price check for me shoes T7 Dex, T7 Str, T2 CDR, T3 Ele res, and sealed phys res? 😄

[compact patio]

Woven imprint make no sense for trade

But with better tools sweatlords will dominate more 😛

[teal willow]

Yeah but if the cap is lower it will help.

So that if you don't play for 3 days you aren't boned. But yeah COF probably would still need a nerf

I did cof on my crow BM and he's way more geared than my ghetto mg mage

In two days. And don't need to worry about rushing to log in or rushing corruption or doing market research or updating filters every day.

[compact patio]

You need to know your shit on trade

Nothing new

I remember in D2 my items were worthless so fast always

[teal willow]

I bet almost every Uber abby kill is cof

[compact patio]

Nah

[teal willow]

All the people I asked so far were

On yt

[compact patio]

People got rich on mg by farming Uber

And dumbos sentinel suckers pay billions for gloves/relic

[mighty mist]

Or by rmt LOL

[teal willow]

Used rmt to kill him maybe lol

[mighty mist]

Why is there always a loophole in the system 😭

[teal willow]

Just go COF I no longer worry about rushing to play and out geared my mg mage pretty fast

MG is good but for a much much smaller percent of players vs COF were everyone is a baller.

[hidden gyro]

WTB Reign of Winter with t7 crit chance and atk speed + t5 (or better) crit multi. i'm MG12

[marble moth]

WTB 1LP red ring for a reasonable price (~1b)

[mighty mist]

Okay how are yall making gold in MG? Is it mostly selling or?

[signal leaf]

yes ofc

[mighty mist]

Will anything sell pretty quickly?

[signal leaf]

meta items ye

[tame forge]

ES VK on MG here, can farm this consistently

still 1LP world splitter

i can't even get a stupid leonine helmet with T7 + T5*3

[signal leaf]

ppl farming 2-300 corr and blame on rmt and dupinf XD

[tame forge]

spent like 500mil and 30 havoc runes so far

[signal leaf]

after 2 weeks of the season lol

[tame forge]

but yeah uber kinda ruins MG a bit

the people that can farm it have a huge advantage over the rest of the playerbase

[signal leaf]

y4ee

[compact patio]

Same as torch farmer in d2

Bad paeasants that cant do trist

[teal willow]

Good thing about this game is bad peasants have an easy mode option

If they don't use it that's on them

[coarse basalt]

If you're talking about cof, it still is a pain in the ass when you get to 2lp stuff and target farming for no upgrades in days turned me insane

[signal leaf]

Ppl compering then self to ppl who plays 15h aday.

[compact patio]

I switched and like progression but getting exalts is rough

[signal leaf]

if ppl do play 10h aday there is no problem to have gold xD

alot of the ppl did quit after 3-5 day becusa they got boored

they have nothing more to do

after 4 day you should be at like 700 coorruption

[buoyant magnet]

i still like market i mean just switch if its fun /shrug

problem is most of my gear would be unusable on my char so i dont want to xD

[marble moth]

Farm ubers😂

[fluid carbon]

How do you farm idols as MG??

[hidden gyro]

WTB Reign of Winter with t7 crit chance and atk speed + t5 (or better) crit multi. i'm MG12

[sullen valve]

I used harbor farm to get that.

[sullen valve]

No, you shouldn't unless you played 12h a day very efficiently.

[signal leaf]

but they think thet in this channel XD

thet they play like thet

but the streamers have lp 1 rr

my guide says lp 1 RR

is to expensivXD

[sullen valve]

Well, yes, if you are here, you are already likely better than the average so the expectation is s bit higher obviously.

[signal leaf]

ye but they blaming dupe and rmt and still farming corr 300 after 2 weeks XD

and wonder why they dont have any gold

[stoic wadi]

I mean rmt is still a big issue

[signal leaf]

No

[stoic wadi]

Yes

[signal leaf]

it is not

[sullen valve]

I think most people just don't know how to handle an inflated market. The dupes are bad and inflation is annoying, but essentially all it does is force people to farm items instead of direct gold drops

[signal leaf]

is same in all games with trade

[sullen valve]

Which in a way is a bit counter intuitive as that's supposed to be CoF strategy

[signal leaf]

RR with 1lp is like getting 1 mirror in poe for exampel

but ye RR is easyer

[sullen valve]

I feel mirror is rarer

[signal leaf]

it is

[sullen valve]

Ya

[signal leaf]

ppl pick this uber good build and follow it

but have no clue howe to get there tbh

[sullen valve]

Each season, after about 2 weeks in MG, the same discussions creep up, but people don't learn how to deal with it

[signal leaf]

yeep

is same in all games

they think there 2h of playing eavryday gives them eavrything tbh

[mighty kite]

Nope, only one has a solution 😉

[signal leaf]

only solution to stop it is to remove trade tbh

[sullen valve]

All you have to do is tailor the woven tree to be for item farming. The difference with CoF is that the number of viable items is much larger, so you don't need as much specific farming to hit the jackpot

And the strategies are different as well. Some uniques for exemple are cheap at LP0 or LP1, but become insanely more expensive at just one higher LP. So one strategy is to buy all lower LP and go attempt an upgrade. You can't do that in CoF.

[signal leaf]

orly

[sullen valve]

I literally bought 100 LP1 of a unique for like 200k and turned two of them into LP2 for my build. Saved me 50M

[signal leaf]

sitting and nemesis gamba shatters worlds XD

[sullen valve]

I used the turtle thingy for it. But yeah you can do the same with nemesis tower

For LP0 to LP1

It's a bit expensive doing that with a RR though

[signal leaf]

is only like 170m a pop

ye shattred is like only 100m atm

[sullen valve]

I'm trying to see if it's still worth using the harbor strategy, but seems a bit less useful now due to woven tree

[signal leaf]

Can be

now with portal keys

[sullen valve]

Yeah it's faster, but loot wise, seems worse than echoes by far obviously when every other champ or lizard explodes with loot

And it's free to run the echo, no need to gamble a few millions

[signal leaf]

the gamba is nice

if you get a good proc

and like 6 of same drop

thet is worth abit

[sullen valve]

true

[signal leaf]

im suprised ppl havent post about it

legit duped items etc XD

[sullen valve]

it's less popular strategy, but most people around here since 1.0 use it

[signal leaf]

ye mby

gold cap is a problem XD

thets why i perf poe 1-2

[sullen valve]

each game has its own strengths and weaknesses, we have yet to get one combining the best of all of them xD

[signal leaf]

i whould play this more if there was no cap on gold

or if you could re sell items

now i cant even invest in buying stuff

to keep it dowen

[sullen valve]

yeah, that's why I said the strategy is a bit similar to CoF in this game since you can't resell to make money

[signal leaf]

yee

[hidden gyro]

WTB Reign of Winter with t7 crit chance and atk speed + t5 (or better) crit multi. i'm MG12
!

[alpine atlas]

Is something funky with the faction tokens I swear I've had like under 4k for the longest then it just shot up to 100k

But I didnt do anything?

I was just shopping for items

[rare robin]

In the dev chat recently mike suggested that a legendary with 2 affixes for example would be treated as a unique with 2 LP

[leaden bay]

You might have a visual error? You just gain favor by gaining exp

[worn whale]

is there a way to search for sealed affixes cause i have this item and i have no idea if its good or junk

[alpine atlas]

yea i dont know it was strange because it was at like 4k did some stuff 4k did some stuff 3k somehow did some stuff 100k

[alpine atlas]

yea near bottom of list

[worn whale]

bottom of what list

i have a belt with sealed spell dmg and lightning dmg

sorry spell dmg and chance for lightning blast to chain 4 times

[honest verge]

I also randomly went from like 2k favor to 100k after I swapped from CoF the other day. Not sure what triggered it but I put in a bug report

[wise perch]

When everyone is talking about inflation are they specifically talking about the Cycle? I dont think it's happening in Legacy.

[signal leaf]

noone plays legacy XD

and must be rly boring as mg there becus of gold cap

Finaly i did hit Lp on shattred worlds XD

Nr13

XD

No more feeding in to this ubers farmers lol

[serene halo]

anyone could tell me the price of a +40 armor +5% armor/+20 health +10 mana minor weaver idol?

[compact meteor]

would you mind sharing your build?

[signal leaf]

erasing strik vk

[hollow dove]

So is there some kinda gold dupe or is it actually just inflation

[hollow dove]

I sold my 2 lp cuz in switching to judge pally and also setting up rerolling base stats was gonna suck

[civic robin]

devs don't seem to want to confirm or deny the claims, because hell brother hyperinflation is a thing sure

but the prices went from 10m to 300m the very next day

[round otter]

god every time i think I earned enough gold for a 1 LP shattered chains, i go check, and its gone up by 5 or 10 million more

[hollow dove]

Welp heres hopin i can start farming uber abberoth today

[frigid trench]

yep i sold a increased health weaver ele resist for 60m the day before. the next day it was 200m

[civic robin]

hyperinflation just doesn't happen within a single night, that's not how it works

until EHG themselves confirm if it did happen or not, it remains speculation but i'll be damned if this isn't beyond reasonable suspicion

[sullen valve]

Well, can any of you at 800+ corr make 10M per hour from only gold piles?

[pallid island]

can someone price my idol please?

[orchid sluice]

Hey Folks - is there a place to easily price items rather than asking in here? Any resource for the most valuable uniques etc?

[rose prairie]

Hello! Do you have endgame weaver tree for merchant guild? to blast echoes? im at 1k corruption

[wispy tusk]

"the sanctum market" discord has decent MG filters

[wispy tusk]

it's ok even using the one for COF and csutomize by your own preferences and what character you are using (IE: if you are leveling one i would respec stuff to get as many EXP tomes and favor possible)

[rose prairie]

Im at 100lvl 😄

[wispy tusk]

a starting example
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/oXw4Z2zB
but i've already customized by my tastes in my own
take the time to read the nodes

[simple knoll]

Primalist, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Tombs of the Erased / 1.2

Class:

None

General:

▸ Health: 1,106, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 104.51, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 2%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 3 Str / 1 Dex / 1 Int / 2 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 0% / 1% / 1%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 221

Used skills:

None

[orchid sluice]

Thank you 🙂

[sage wharf]

are there any valuable sets ingame?

[winter ocean]

Hello guys quick question
Now I know that I can increase the merchant guild rank by selling and buying items , so my question is when buying gear does the rarity matter for the amounts of XP gain towards the guild rank or just simply buying anything award the same XP?

[split wave]

The only thing that matters for ranking up when buying/listing items is the favor cost. You get 2 reputation per favor spent. Higher rarity items do cost more favor in general.

[pulsar basin]

if I use rune of creation to copy an item, can i still sell both the original and the copy on the market?

[pulsar basin]

For science, I have tested this and found that yes, you can sell both

[safe remnant]

Ty for the input , I was wondering the same

[pulsar kiln]

hi iwant to ask first time playing Guild

i have Ruby ring with T7 void dammage

from the excel T7 ring with void dammage worth at highest 800K
but i see in market the lowest people sell at 4M , so what is the price?

[tame forge]

with how crazy the inflation is, you might as well put it up for 6M

I bought T7 void damage rings for 2M yesterday

[pulsar kiln]

Crazy!

How can people get so many gold

[tame karma]

by printing them from the void

[midnight kernel]

bruh my amulet I was gonna sell just poofed from my inventory LOL

[teal willow]

Pick OP class to easy farm high corruption and Uber abby

[sullen valve]

I hope not too many switch to D4 and No Rest otherwise MG will be pretty much dead.

[teal willow]

Or just go COF and have an easy time on any class and no pressure to play against inflation. It's going to probably be nerfed next season though it's too good for the average player.

For MG to be as good you have to be on top of things and a sweatlord

[sullen valve]

Dude, even farming at 1000 corruption efficiently, you won't make anywhere close to what's being asked from just gold piles.

[teal willow]

You don't use gold piles you sell the good items via tsm filter

At 1000 on a Meta spec and playing religiously it should be enough to buy anything in a week

Or go COF and do it casually 🤣

[sullen valve]

Would be faster to do reroll CoF in my opinion

Yeah

[teal willow]

Yes

No question.

It's been tested

MG is for fun. Like those who like playing the AH game. The dopamine of logging in with 30 items sold.

It's not the optimal method

[sullen valve]

I'm not really surprised, release + 2 seasons and it's always the same, CoF is vastly superior after two weeks

There should be a box asking if you want to go cof when you hit 500 corruption 🤣

[teal willow]

My Runemaster is MG for that dopamine sales hit. My BM is COF so I can actually progress without worry.

[sullen valve]

MG is so difficult for offmeta builds, nobody posts what you need on the AH

[teal willow]

MG is good for the 1% making gold cap for day. Cof is good for literally everyone in it.

You're going to get that one or two guys in here who do gold cap a day saying to not switch

And that's bait for nearly every one in this chat.

[sullen valve]

We still don't know if there is really a dupe or it's just bot inflation

[teal willow]

Probably rmt bots

[sullen valve]

That's for sure, but is there a dupe making it worse, who knows

Gotta go for a while, see ya

[teal willow]

Mg is still quite doable. But maybe on an OP spec. Like VK or Falconer. Also don't skip a day make sure to play a lot

If you couldn't play much for a week like me, you're kinda boned.

Well my mage at least. My BM is fine, he's COF

[teal willow]

Check forge UI or sales UI it could be in that box still

[thin wing]

so do u guys use specific loot filters from the trading guild? always went with CoF before

[sullen valve]

Honestly I hoped to do Uber Aberroth on my Judgement Aura Paladin before No Rest of the wicked is patch, but with the current state of MG, I guess I'll just have to settle for 1000 corr

Sucks, I think this self-made build could have done Ubi with some farming

[teal willow]

I'm a mage on mg, reaching 1000c gonna be rough. Takes some good gear. I'll be speed farming 500s for a while instead. The class is kinda gutted

There is this one guy doing well as mage but he is COF and his rings alone are a few gold caps on MG

[little kraken]

Its kinda funny that you look at the MG chat and its people lamenting the economy and meanwhile in the CoF chat its people just talking about playing the game.

Just a gentle reminder that you can switch and it doesn't take too long to find new gear >.>

[teal willow]

I did switch on my primalist. The COF interaction with imprinting is broken good. It's already way over gearing my mage. I keep my mage on MG just to see the pathetic state of affairs , it's just for the 1% of AH moguls and sweatlords

[sullen valve]

Well yeah, criticising and complaining is how we hope EHG will take notice and try to improve it next season. MG has gone from being near unusable to somewhat good for two weeks now with UI improvements. Hopefully they can make it worthwhile for about a month next season.

[teal willow]

That can they do though.

Make gold cap 1billion?

[thin wing]

where can i find a loot filter for MG?

[teal willow]

Or less? Make a bigger gold sink?

[sullen valve]

https://discord.com/channels/1212608121806000138/1214615583547592704

[thin wing]

i dont have access to that link

[sullen valve]

Sanctum Market discord

[sullen valve]

I don't know. It's their job to find a solution through the data they have.

[teal willow]

UI for sure needs a change . Like me just left click the item and list of same ones

Like in WoW

Then we need a maybe a smaller max listing size on items

[sullen valve]

Definitively takes too long to price check an item

[teal willow]

Or just nerf CoF and weaver tree combo

[sullen valve]

In PoE it's fine because the loot is rarer and the API allows for near instant estimation. Problem is, API directly checking their data would kill the servers I bet lol

[sullen valve]

Nah I think it's fine, CoF should be fun and enjoyable. It's the MG experience that needs improvements.

[teal willow]

Not sure how you make mg match cof.

Tbh

[sullen valve]

I don't know how many hours the expect a player to play before doing Uber Aberroth. Without that, it's difficult to tell which mode is too good or too bad

I feel their mistake this time around was to think 300 corr and normal aberroth is "successful". Obviously, it is not when further challenges are available

Reading the community, any build not able to speed farm 500 corr is trash

Quite the disconnect between players and EHG on this one

[teal willow]

Lol

[sullen valve]

Let's say their 300 corr and aberroth is not on the level of pinnacle bosses and T17 maps in PoE... it's more like starter level than well rounded build.

Normal Aberroth is just the absolute minimum

[teal willow]

I think most builds won't be able to do Uber Abberoth for a while. But I think 1000 corruption and fast regular Abberoth is a good bar for a good build

Mage has like one build that barely clears him

Uber

And even that took a while

[sullen valve]

I'd say 500 corr is enough for a good build. Beyond that it's for dedicated players really

We'll see in a month for Uber Aberroth. The obviouls builds got done, now people will theorycrwft specialised boss killers

There is zero incentive to build a boss killing machine in LE though since only Uber Aberroth is a challenge. Everything else you can lower corruption.

[signal leaf]

Biggest problem is the gold cap

Becus you almost done geared as mg in 2-4 days

Becus there is no real reson to farm after 7 days

So the market will slowly die from now

And all builds are not supose to make eavrything

But you can. You just gonna be needed to doge more

[karmic ice]

is there browser version of game market with better filter?

[little kraken]

Oh, no problem with that, complain loud and clear so they can tell whats up, just saying a lot of people would have more fun if they gave up the ghost this season and swapped. And it'd also affect their metrics. If they see the vast majority of the playerbase avoiding MG, they'll see that MG needs some love to make it appealing.

[signal leaf]

Ye they avoiding mg becus of gold cap and bazzar ui

[little kraken]

Personally, I avoided MG because I knew cheaters would screw up inflation if they didn't do something to curb it, and they didn't do something to curb it x.x

[quick delta]

Was gonna sell an item for 40,000,000 and listed it for 40,000 instead I must stop playing market when Im asleep

[sullen valve]

True enough, but I think it will happen anyway. Depending how many people are pulled away from LE this week due to V Rising, D4 and No Rest, MG will be unusable

[sullen valve]

I sold a red ring without imprinting it, 3rd day of the season. Imagine how many I'd have by now. Mistakes happen, move on... and repeat it next season because you forgot.

[signal leaf]

iif you dont play 10h aday . you not supose to be done alredy with your toon tbh

is like 10 days in to the season

if you dont nolife you not supose to have end end game gear ina few days tbh

i dont know why you are feeling entitled to have the best gear in the game if you dont put the houers in

in a short period of time

this season is atlest 3 monthes

[teal willow]

What class are you what corruption you farm

[signal leaf]

im vk 1kl +

ttook me 3 days

then i farmed gold cap

and got bored

[teal willow]

My mg character is a mage how long will that take

[signal leaf]

deppends how mutch you play tbh

for me mby 1 day more then my vk

[teal willow]

Hmm my mage feels stuck

Can't go higher corruption without upgrades but upgrades are too expensive

[signal leaf]

thets what happends when you follow a guide blind

[teal willow]

So what build should I go for mage

[signal leaf]

and you set your aim to hige

i dont know

google

and ypu rpob find one

[teal willow]

Are most mg players make billions per day that seem rare

Yeah I used Google

Saw the top viewed one

[signal leaf]

XD

[teal willow]

It uses two red rings...

[signal leaf]

if you cant afford it you gona need to own scale the gear till you can afford it

[teal willow]

How much gold can I make in corruption 300

[signal leaf]

and you dont rly need RR befor like 2k +

[teal willow]

Per day

[signal leaf]

i dont count

if you play 10h aday you prob make 500m+

aday

now

[teal willow]

In 300c ?

[signal leaf]

yes why not

[teal willow]

Nice I'll try to get more time to play

Been super busy

[signal leaf]

ye if you dont put the time in ofc you cant afford things fast

i started at ther 21

becus i was not rly supose to play

and i have around 120h played

XD

[teal willow]

I should have picked an OP class

[signal leaf]

is more about time and knowledge tbh

[teal willow]

Mage is worst atm

[signal leaf]

and effeciancy

[teal willow]

My lich does way faster and has much worse gear

But I hate how lich plays

[signal leaf]

my friend sold a small idol for 500m this morning

cant post pics here

the tombs idols is easy mony

[teal willow]

Does he use small idol drop blessing

[signal leaf]

no ide

they are pretty common in the tombs

use more chanse for tombs to spown in weaver tree

and use the new runes to craft

redamtion and the havoc one

buy low lvl erasing strike to get the shards

then rune of removal on some random t7 stated chaste to get a prefix spot