💰┃merchants-guild

[naive flax]

How is MG in terms of inflation? I've played CoF so far, wondering if i would be chasing my tail switching now unless I get a giga drop

[sacred sluice]

there were a spreadsheet about pricing, but i dont find it, anyone has it?

[placid canyon]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kPebdP3xG101Gy_y521ScrdrhMWXkmGM2oLu6Lg2Alg/edit?gid=75189694#gid=75189694

This what you were talking about maybe

[sacred sluice]

thank you

[misty tulip]

game down?

[pure dock]

anyone knows why

[tiny spire]

maybe the rolls?

[warm geyser]

So I have been mostly stocking LP uniques to sell, but it seems nobody cares about buying them... Should i Just be searching for exalt affixes so people will buy and imprint them?

[frail lily]

could put em through the grinder and sell them 0lp ones (or hopefully a higher lp ones)

[warm geyser]

You mean the echo that rerolls LP?

[frail lily]

any1 what the best monolith is to grind the boss for, pureply based on the average money/bossclear?

[frail lily]

ye

[warm geyser]

And generally, I am looking for some insight into making more out of MG. I picked it up for this season, but have not found it very useful aside from the very occasional upgrade in my gear

[frail lily]

i would say the main source of income is prolly exalts and the ocasional good unique is the cherry on top

[warm geyser]

I see, so I need to make a short list of exalts I really want to pick up

High value ones at least

[frail lily]

got a red ring today but it dropped untradable for some inexplicable reason but that would have been the re-up

[frail lily]

basically ye

and keep a look out for them

have a look at popular builds to see what you should be looking for if ur lost

[warm geyser]

I see, I am apparently too D2 brained right now. Need to rearrange my thinking on the market

[wise perch]

Am I doing something wrong if I'm having a hard time reaching the gold cap?

[frank crypt]

what's the gold cap ?

[wise perch]

I've heard it is 2.14 bil. Someone in here posted earlier that it was easy to reach gold cap but I've been playing MG for 6 months quite aggressively and barely just capped 500mil. And half of that was made in the past week.

[frank crypt]

idk i've made like 70millions this week

maybe more maybe less

but around that

i just take random t7 and havoc them into good t7 and sell

[wise perch]

Well, this week has been different because of new season. But that sounds like a good strategy.

[teal willow]

How did you farm havok

[frank crypt]

playing the game

around 1k corruption

[teal willow]

Oh shit ok I'm too low for that

I'm way behind the curve cant afford gear to upgrade

Lvl 86

Not sure how to catch up

[frank crypt]

Just play until u did the quest

to kill abberroth

[teal willow]

Ok

I'm starting to feel weak though

[frank crypt]

Then u can start pushing corruption until the game seems to hard

[teal willow]

I need upgrades

[frank crypt]

What build ur doing

[teal willow]

Lich

[frank crypt]

Look for Lp 1 items

To get the T7 stat u need

[teal willow]

Alright I'll try

[frank crypt]

Buy an item with a random t7, remove a mod then craft the mod u want, then havoc until the mod u put is t7

then put on your items

That's for thel

Lp1

[teal willow]

Ok

[frank crypt]

Since on tier 2 3 4 of Temporal Sanctum u can choose the first mod u want on the unique

[teal willow]

Wow nice

[frank crypt]

Fix your resistances

Make sure to be cap everywhere

Get some Hp

and mana

[teal willow]

Lp1 nihilis is a it pricey tho lol but rest should okay

[frank crypt]

if your build require a lot of

Just take a Nihilis +2 all skil

l

With ok tier stats

without Lp

[teal willow]

Ok

[frank crypt]

put it in nemesis and pray

then upgrades your others items

[teal willow]

Or a nemesis gives a trash item is there a way to reset it

[frank crypt]

if the nihilis get soemthing good it's fine if not it's okay you will upgrade other item and come back for nihilis lp 1 later

Not really

Nemesis can rarely gives LP

and often randoms stats

U may get lucky

[teal willow]

What about imprint

[frank crypt]

if not it's fine anyway u werent going to get the lp1 now

[teal willow]

I imprinted two armor pieces I have not seen them drop me once

[frank crypt]

Wich one

doesn't work on boss drop

only on global drop

[teal willow]

They were rogue gloves that sell 1 million lp0

Forgot name

[frank crypt]

If it's a boss drop

that's normal

[plucky pewter]

What is the "cheapest" class to build to farm items in the endgame and sell them on the market efficiently?

[frank crypt]

There is not really any cheapest class

It's more about builds

being cheaper or not

and this depends on how broken they are and how much ppl play them

Look for Erasing Strike

May be expensive to scale but big big big dmg with almost shit items

[teal willow]

Blood roost I think. those were the gloves

[frank crypt]

like 150K crit dmg at the end of leveling

The best bossing build at the moment

Also there is a version with more clear

[plucky pewter]

makes sense

[frank crypt]

but almost same dmg in bossing

[plucky pewter]

i will check this one

[frank crypt]

Fubgun

[plucky pewter]

Do you know if there is an efficient build for an Acolyte?

I wanted something that would be very fast to clear maps and preferably use a scythe haha

[frank crypt]

lemme check

[teal willow]

Crit shade lich is real good

But needs some gear

[frank crypt]

i'd say Abomination Necromancer or Stygian Coal Lich

But don't look in maxroll

they kinda suck at doing builds

look on youtube

what's working

and full guide

[plucky pewter]

Nice, i will look for this, thanks guys ❤️

[frank crypt]

Also

About Abomination

it's way stronger than stygian

and can actually do Uber aberrath

[teal willow]

Oh wow nice

Dunno about uber boss but this guy said he's comfortably doing 1400 corr two days ago for shade build https://youtu.be/l3jGckpacr0?si=WXkyQDqHsxm2klOp

[plucky pewter]

Oh, nice!

I will check now haha

[teal willow]

I also see Stygian player kill Uber

On twitch clip few days ago

All 3 seem goood

[plucky pewter]

I still need to level the acolyte. He's only level 20. My beastmaster is 93.

I started Acolyte now

[frank crypt]

look to do alternative leveling by skipping campain

u go to lvl 15

then u go arbor dungeon

xp through

kill the boss then the campaign until u see the soulfire bastion

Cap yourself in necrotic and play with fire shield inside

when u done play campaign until u kill herodot

then go back to act 4

play until u get the temporal sanctum

it's a side quest in act 5

do the temporal sanctum

it will skip to act 9

then get the Merchants guild

and go xp in monolith

u will die a lot but xp fast

if u new at this in 1h30 u can get ready to monolith

if u get ready your build before

look for a leveling build

and do your build around lvl 60/70

[plucky pewter]

ohhhh

very nice

i dont know about this

thanks for explain

[slim summit]

can also just campaign until ~40, then go to monos until you get temporal sanctum key, then temporal sanctum to act 9

[ivory escarp]

does someone have a nice lootfilter for items that could sell well?

[winter tartan]

I just hit lvl12 cof im thinking i want to try mg

Any tips?

Cof seems too rng reliant and my luck is horrible

[heavy fox]

Is it possible to buy Frostbite Shackles on bazaar? If yes what rank and amt gold is needed?

[frank crypt]

Any idea to how to make hundreds of millions asap ?

grinded 70m but feels slow af

[tired oar]

#🔱┃sentinel message

any price check for this

[worthy bone]

Which version for erasing strike has more clear?

[frank crypt]

The one with void dmg boots speed per melee void

Check empyrian one

[frank crypt]

Or fubgun

These boots scale on another void spell that we use to dodge and clear

[heavy fox]

Is there a way to remove the mg tag from a bought item and move to CoF while still using the item?

[compact meteor]

is there a reason why i cant filter specific uniques in one handed swords? i mean there are uniques to choose from but not the one im actually looking for...?

oh nvm i have to choose base type of weapon instead of the acutal name nvm

[steady compass]

Is there a plugin or anything to know the popularity of items and how much they are worth I have a lot of stuff but I don’t know the price to list them at

[teal willow]

TSM loot filter Google it

It's crazy good now

[grim flint]

🥰

[dense hedge]

are dungeon keys and Portal charms tradeable?

[modest rover]

CAN I GET A W IN CHAT I SOLD AN ITEM FOR 4M LETS GOOOO

t7 int t5 double spell crit t3 %hp sealed, a res and an open suffix with some fp left

[misty steppe]

tsm loot filter have unique filters?

[modest rover]

boy i am rich asf now

[modest rover]

i have 2 mage body armours ive been hoarding for a while cuz their too good and none are on the market so idk the price and i dont wanna scam myself

[teal willow]

Hoe much is null portent lp1

[tawdry garnet]

I just got a 25 weavers Rogue Relic... idk if I wanna sell it

[gusty shuttle]

have a question: why do my items get tagged as level 9 Merchant tags when i drop them? can somebody explain this? i have 30% ms boots which dropped and i cannot sell them its so annoying...

[fading stirrup]

You have probably imprinted untradeable boots on the weaver tree and the ones that drop from the imprint also cannot be traded

[cold hornet]

how dou you guys check the prices? is there any way or tool like in poe?

[frail lily]

Do you have similar boots with the mg tag on your weavers tree?

[potent pelican]

nop you just have to know or check it by hand

[misty steppe]

anyone use tsm uber strict lootfilter? its good to 100+ corruption?

im using very strict filter but 9/10 item is 10-20k gold in the market

[wise perch]

So I'm struggling with trying to determine what to imprint. I imprinted an exalted piece of Sentinel Armor with 2x T7 affixes but the best that has ever dropped from that is 1x T7. I dont have any Red Rings to imprint and I'm not sure I have any other high value uniques worth imprinting. Any suggestions?

[teal willow]

Did you get latest update ? From today

[misty steppe]

yes

[nimble beacon]

what filter is it ?

[wheat cradle]

Is there any way to price check items outside the game? The AH interface is terrible. I’ve just been putting everything up for 100k and praying. Probably made a lot of people very happy.

[tranquil geyser]

Anyone here switch from CoF to MG? Do you lose access to all your equipped gear thats CoF?

[wise perch]

No. We are stuck with what we have.

[wheat cradle]

Is there an API? Surely someone can figure out how to make an extension or website 😦

[wise perch]

Believe me if it could be done, someone would have done this already. It's a major complaint among the MG community right now.

[wheat cradle]

Damn… that really sucks… if they had made the interface more searchable it would have been so much better. Even a search bar for general unique name instead of having to click through several menus…

[nimble beacon]

yeah, many people say trading sucked in POE, but community had done amazing tools with API, and at the end, it's 10x better than an AH, that seems to solve all problems, but suck

[teal willow]

If they just used WoW's current AH UI and just three close NPCs instead of 30.

Like shidt click item or type it, and it automatically shows you list

Instead of going thru all those dumb check boxes

[wise perch]

The big problem right now is that all the new stuff i.e. champion affixes and weavers idols take 15 seconds to load in search.

[nimble beacon]

wow AH still has 90% of the same problems than LE

[teal willow]

Maybe. But way easier to navigate

Just click once and item list comes

[nimble beacon]

y, anything different than current AH will be better

[hoary condor]

TSM discord had asked multiple times for an API but nope

[fossil hull]

Is there no way of finding out how much something is worth ? As in seeing for how much it was sold in the past etc?
Igot an item that I think I can get a pretty penny on it...but I'm not sure what to sell it for..
I've looked for something similar but there's none on the market.

[wise perch]

If there is nothing similar on the market and it's used in meta builds then try selling it for 1.5bil and leave it up on the bazaar for a week or so and see if it sells.

But to answer your question there is currently no way to see what items sold for. We cant even look at our own records.

[fossil hull]

Thanks for the answer Q_Q...I would love to trade but it's just painfull at the moment...with having to tick 20 boxes to try and find 1 item..
I'll try my luck and see how much I can get for it. Thanks

[wise perch]

Well if you're ticking 20 boxes and getting that specific, and you're not finding anything similar, it doesnt necessarily mean it's worth something. I mean I can get a random rare drop and select all 4 affixes and none may show up in the bazaar. I usually just tick the Exalted affixes, the forging potential, the implicit if it's high, and any non-exalted affixes IF they are relevant/desired. That narrows the search fairly well.

Oh and of course, the base.

[sacred sluice]

hi, is there any price guide for unique items?

[fossil hull]

it was just a saying...my point was that it's too tedious
I play the game and enjoy it for say 2 hours..then have to spend another 2 trying to find out what the right price is for things that dropped.
and not because I don't know how to look for them...just because the whole search menu is not user friendly...
But hopefully this will improve at some point.
❤️

[wise perch]

I definitely feel your pain! I've gotten to the point now where I just guess what most items are worth and list them and hope for the best.

[placid canyon]

just sold an Inspiried minor weaver idol of repose for 32.5m gash dang

someone made this I've been using, its not very accurate but if a price is high, its usually selling for even more
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kPebdP3xG101Gy_y521ScrdrhMWXkmGM2oLu6Lg2Alg/edit?gid=908796319#gid=908796319

I only sell T7s that are worth on exaults and idols if they look like theyre good (usually only if they have similar affixs on all 4 pieces) which is what I just sold for 32 mil. I would have just trashed it but it looked like someone might want it, didn't know they'd want it that bad

[rugged tiger]

hey guys, what happend with bazaar prices? red rind today costs 18kk, now 75kk

[atomic dagger]

if I rune of creation an item I bought from MG, is the resulting item sellable on MG or is it soulbound like the original

[native stag]

I just got two relics that have both 3 LP, they are WORTH A LOT! For some reason they came as "can not be traded". Why the hell not?

[wanton bear]

Is there a website similar to poe ninja for last epoch?

[signal leaf]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/ladders/

[split wave]

Not for price checking

[copper maple]

well something happened. ppl selling exalted items with single t7 for 700 millions accroding to TSM disc

so ye

and when i say something you know what i mean

[warm geyser]

Theres no way to check general item sales is there? Not just my own? Would massively help with pricing

Also, how the hell do people have 20mil+ gold to buy some of these things?? Goddamn

[peak niche]

Correct, there is currently no way to price items with the exception of the obvious method, to go to each vendor and search for the item or affix that you're trying to price. It's not something I would ever recommend to anyone, you learn what the prices of items are simply by using the merchants guild to buy gear for yourself and when you put an item up for sale you can waste your time looking up the price if you feel the need to get top dollar, or you can just put it up for sale without maximizing your sale price.

[warm geyser]

Yeah thats what I have been doing, but its kind of hard even then because you see outrageous listings that obviously won't sell. I'm trying to figure out what I can get for something, but I see nearly the same item for 1k and 100k lmao

[wise perch]

Did the drops come from imprints in the weaver tree?

[wanton bear]

Looking for one that can be used to reverse check characters using uniques. So if I find a unique with a rare LP value I can reverse check to see if it's actually used.

[devout flame]

worst thing is you can only sort by price... and not by affix value
e.g. for uniques

[rocky elk]

beh, trying to figure out what to sell my spare uniques for is nightmarish, have to go to each merchant and be like Okay what does it sell for, okay where does mine rank on the rolls and LP okay maybe that'll work?

or is there a tool I'm missing?

[potent pelican]

Is there an effective way to farm favor ?

[bitter gull]

Do you have any ways to price an item when it's not on the bazaar? I have legendary item, but I don't know how much to take for it

[misty tulip]

Guys is Blood Roost something that works for imprinting?

i have it in 2 slots, enver dropped yet from imprintation

[pine tulip]

Is gamble favor fast for lvl up the rank cus I’ve been stuck on lvl 6 for the past couples day and it suck

[misty tulip]

nevermind a blood roost droped its working

[pure dock]

so guys, why some unique
items
are expensive in lp0, but p*ss cheap at lp1-2?

lets say why an item without lp is 300k+ gold while base item with a bad legendary affix is 1k

but needs more rank to buy

[shut cradle]

This is because you can put 0LP into an egg and it can make a unique with higher LP to potentially turtle or a decent lego

[pure dock]

are lp2 prices, without leggo

are expensive?

[shut cradle]

depends on which item

there is no blanket statement

[pure dock]

razorfall

im cof player, its just my friend was shitting on game's trade system cause he is at 7-8 rank and can buy the unique but cant buy the legendary

and unique is expensive

he was planning to buy a shitty leggo to use the build enabler base item

for cheap

[half schooner]

razorfall LP2 is a bit expensive

atleast with +2 throwing attack

[plush urchin]

how are you MGers getting rune of havocs

[shut cradle]

do tombs and cemeteries

the champion woven echo with 9 champs gave me a bunch too

[dusky swift]

How do yall get your havoc runes farmed out?

Tombs and cemeteries give a little but need them in bulk

[pure dock]

there was some strats ppl are talkig about

but that strat was cof i think

[dusky swift]

Yeah I'm aware of the cof strat

Was wondering if there was an alternative for mg people tho

[sleek cobalt]

is there anyway to search for affixes on uniques so i can put a minimum roll of something i want

[spring wren]

Wondering the same as cerb

imagine looking for devotion amulets

[left pelican]

is there a discord to talk about items and their prices to help new people price items and what to look for?

[wheat cradle]

New player, I was wondering about the purple items. Are they worth selling? Do I DE them? Ignore them?

[misty tulip]

put a 32million gloves unique into Imprint or sell? its a lp2

will the lp2 happen more if i imprint that one?

[shut cradle]

https://arreatsummit.gg/last-epoch/loot-filters/680671dbb2ea126a2ba7151a Money filter updated folks! find the changes and spreadsheet with up-to-date prices inside

Enjoy o7

[misty tulip]

how do i farm red ring

[distant shale]

we cannot favorite some searches yet?

[sacred sluice]

I just spent all night make my own 😂

[umbral juniper]

Was there a gold dupe? Some items being sold at 300 mil now..

[steady bolt]

yes, and many people dupe gold right now, EHG dont want to fix it

[spiral cobalt]

there a way to target farm havocs in MG?

[umbral juniper]

was it ever confirmed? or just speculation?

[steady bolt]

confirmed, unlimited stocks on goldseller websites, 0.02$ per 1 mil

[random gulch]

lightless arbor maybe but it need a little investment

[spiral cobalt]

how? boss rush or lizard charm?

[random gulch]

the point of the dungeon is that at the end there is a treasury where you can roll affixes on chests with runes

[spiral cobalt]

ahh. so i'm guessing with enough gold you just farm that dungeon and click on anything that says adds Runes to chests then

kinda regretting going MG as a starter rn cause of how stupid prices are

basically playing CoF with a side of MG at this point lol

[random gulch]

uh i cant send picture here

[charred pivot]

Will they allow service for gold ?

Like killing Uber boss

[wispy tusk]

good thing i've bought enough stuff for my shaman to farm 500 corr, going to probably switch to COF.
Stash nightmare HERE I COME

[spiral cobalt]

that's kinda what i ended up doing in MG anyway. if only i didn't already slam the bow i'm using that i bought frorm the shop i'd have jumped ship

can't start MG if you're late 4 days i guess

[wispy tusk]

i started from lauch but i was slow AF. i got lucky with some drops and got more of 30M to spend, and i still have 20

[worldly shard]

This is the issue I have with LE the end game, this faction things troubles me a bit, one side you have MG with stupid ass prices and you need to know what sells or not etc the other side you have cof 300 tabs to organise stuff and weeks to get same gear as MG

Why can't you have just open cof and mg together

I am confused on what to do end game because I legit can't sell stuff idk what to sell or look for what to farm etc and I am too deep into MG to now switch to COF ...

What's the strat to make currency in MG ?

[spiral cobalt]

be lucky

[wispy tusk]

o it's strictly forbidden and asking for it in chat will give you a ban
I'm actually angry that only blocking is very fast while reporting it's extremely convoluted and you have to manually write down the bot name

[spiral cobalt]

srsly tho. how are some t6 items even 200k?

[charred pivot]

But why do they not let ppl do service? That have nothing to do with rmt

I don’t understand that

[wispy tusk]

depends on the T6. a good chest base with T6 life% and T5 tornado or open prefix is bound to net you that and more

[worldly shard]

If people have gold and want to buy carry for boss I see nothing wrong with it tbh

Why does this game ban it ?

[charred pivot]

Yeah the game is against it

Which is why I am trying to understand why they are :(

[worldly shard]

In poe for example some people just make a char just for bossing and they do carry with in game currency as in divines and keeps the market flowing

What's so wrong with it ?

[wispy tusk]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs

[worldly shard]

How do you make currency in MG ?

I just arrived at empowered monoliths

I want to make my char stronger but don't have gold for it

[charred pivot]

For me, you push corruption and sell exalted item

money come fast honestly

[worldly shard]

Man in PoE I know all 300 strays to make currency super fast in here I have no clue, because of this faction system ahaha 😆

[wispy tusk]

use "the sactum market" discord filters. They help you a lot with screening the most useless stuff

[worldly shard]

Is there filters out there with the exalted items that are good to sell or not ?

I might have to resort to that and sell exalted items

[charred pivot]

https://arreatsummit.gg/last-epoch/loot-filters/6800b993d37f9d9b3a6132b9

The one I use

[worldly shard]

Didn't rax made an universal one ?

[charred pivot]

No clue

[worldly shard]

You league of legends player or ?

[shut cradle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kPebdP3xG101Gy_y521ScrdrhMWXkmGM2oLu6Lg2Alg/edit?gid=1075533650#gid=1075533650 👍

[spiral cobalt]

what is a sanctum market?

[worldly shard]

Thank you so much !!

[sullen valve]

Problem with MG right now is actually finding good exalted to wear or slam. Uniques supply looks fine though so that's good.

[misty tulip]

some uniques are insane price rip. like the gloves i need are 500million lol

[random gulch]

is there any ways to target farm portal charms?

[misty tulip]

The inflation is going faster than I make gold. And I dont feel like rerolling factions. What now?

Other than playing a different game

[sage wharf]

even with inflation, some lucky drops can easily go 5m+ and you're bound to find tons of good idols, anything hp/mana or specific idols is big money

i been using the TsM lootfilter for a few days tho im new myself it's a great filter. basically anything that shows up is 100k+ for sure. it even filters legendary by LP and Weaver points, it's pretty good

only thing i added to the most recent one was blood roost gloves at the 0LP filter because decent rolls can be worth something

[misty tulip]

yea i use that . issue is i can't do higher corruption without upgrading on this build

but its too expensive

Thinking about either rerolling something OP or just gonna go Oblivion lol

[sick dock]

whats the max cash?

[vestal jetty]

Garbage devs, trash game. All season gold dupe 😂

[sick dock]

200m or more?

[wild girder]

Is there a confirmation of dupe?

[novel geyser]

Situation is completely the same as past 2 seasons

You dont need confirmation at this point

[wild girder]

nvm I found some videos on bilibili.

they at it again.

[turbid birch]

You guys are all here lol

[turbid birch]

What is the solution?
I'm lost ...

[wild girder]

Hope the devs are at least aware.

lol.

[turbid birch]

I wrote in ask the devs channel

maybe we should massive report the bug ingame?

[misty tulip]

just going cof next season

[novel geyser]

Their response past seasons were doing nothing

Curious to see this time

[turbid birch]

you can switch now, but that is not a solution

[novel geyser]

After patching the hole of course, but nothing to fix the mess

[turbid birch]

I mean... they have to do something

[novel geyser]

You ask them 🤷🏽‍♂️

[turbid birch]

reset everyone money to 10m after ytou fix the hole, I don;t care to lose money

[novel geyser]

i've made question in ask devs

can you guys put some react so it won't be ignored?

[leaden bay]

Don't care enough

[glossy quiver]

guys

can items shared between account characters in merchant guild through stash

[mystic trail]

Anyone in game able to invite me to a party and go to the Bazaar so I can teleport to you? tried asking ingame

[frozen ledge]

link? or is the same old one

[grim flint]

do i get that right , u sell ur guide for ingame gold?

[novel geyser]

[void acorn]

Is there a loot filter for MG? Dont really know whats valuable and for what price

[signal leaf]

#Removegoldcap

If you cant make gold. Is a you problem

You should learn how to downscale etc

To get your self started

Buy 0 lp items and nemesis gambel

For your build

[stoic wadi]

can you trade directly with a player?

[signal leaf]

Yes if you have rank for it like 11-12

Or if you play in party resonens drop(is semi rear)

But only with other mg players with same rank igusse

Or they need rank to

[stoic wadi]

we are both in the MG and when i right click on my buddy all i see is gift item

do we need to be rank 12?

we are 11

[signal leaf]

Open the tab and it tells you

Dont remember atm

Is depending on items

Some at 11 and some at 12

[stoic wadi]

ok thanks

[leaden bay]

You can't trade directly anymore @stoic wadi @signal leaf

[stoic wadi]

damn

thanks

[signal leaf]

Woot lol.

Kind sure it still says it in the text

🙈

[leaden bay]

Yeah EHG is really bad about updating tooltips

[signal leaf]

Ye

Kind did go blind in XD

So have not Rly read the patchnotes etc

[void acorn]

No idea if that supposed to be the answer to my loot filter question

[signal leaf]

Was not even a response to you

[void acorn]

Thats good

[signal leaf]

But sanctum market makes loot filerts

For mg

[jaunty roost]

is a max rolled atropos with 13 will worth selling if im broke

cause it costs influence etc

[shut cradle]

Yeah TSM makes loot filters, link in here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kPebdP3xG101Gy_y521ScrdrhMWXkmGM2oLu6Lg2Alg/edit?gid=75189694#gid=75189694
The spreadsheet prices all T7 and some T6 affixes for you 👍

[gaunt maple]

yeah I can't keep up with the inflation due to duping and shit...another MG season partially ruined

[weary berry]

another ruined season no point ever playing MG

[grim flint]

I dont really get to point of not keeping up , if u drop a good items once u basically catch up to that prices .

@gaunt maple could u maybe tell me a bit more about ur experience so i can maybe understand it

Are you not dropping anything valuable or whats the issue for you right now?

[signal leaf]

The runes make it so Mutch easyer to.make good too

[sullen valve]

You never farm gold past the first week anyway. People playing 12h+ a day will always outfarm you. Instead you chase the valuable items and imprint them before selling. Each time you find something worse more, you imprint the new one.

Never imprint what you need (unless it's so niche you'll never find it on MG, but then... COF would be better for that).

[misty tulip]

i made 300m last 2 days but its still not enough for these prices raises 😄

[austere grove]

i bought my 2 lp 15%pen flames of midnight last week for 8 million. its 40-50 million now

[compact olive]

i assume there's a dupe or something wacky going on, right? there's no way there is THIS much gold floating around

almost everything went 6x price in the last couple days

[north sonnet]

I hear rumors but no proof yet

[misty tulip]

ill give it a few more days than swap to Oblivion Remake. i can't deal with this

[north sonnet]

I hope no dupe etc

[misty tulip]

s3 i'll totally do COF tho

[austere grove]

if you want to go cof you can make an alt

[compact olive]

yeah i'm starting cof next season. been market breaking exploits every season now

[austere grove]

or just play something that isn't sentinel

non sentinel gear is very cheap

[compact olive]

even as a mage, everything went up a load. yeah, not as bad as sentinel, but it's still many times what it was

[austere grove]

yeah but as a mage all you need to look out for is sentinel armor with t7 mana and it will finance your whole build plus some

im about to make a warlock alt to do exactly that lol

[compact olive]

one of the worst parts of playing non-sentinel is it hurts your income for stuff like exalted body echo rewards

[misty tulip]

rather not grind again.

[compact olive]

yeah i'm still rank 10 mg lmao not gonna suffer through restarting with cof this season

[misty tulip]

actualy working on this atm. The build is ettled on still uses 2 red rings tho but...fuck it lol

[austere grove]

they usually do some sort of refresh at mid season so just take a break for a little bit

[misty tulip]

it can use substitutes for ring

[austere grove]

but keep in mind the inflation is going to get worse and worse

[compact olive]

yeah, that's why really soon i'm either gonna quit or go cof. mg sucks if you don't rmt, get lucky, or exploit

[austere grove]

but also do keep in mind that even with pretty bad gear lot of sentienl builds can go to 500c so you need the t7 affixes

[gaunt maple]

I play like two hours a day and I'm at a part of the game where item upgrades that cost 30 mil two days ago, cost like 80 today....so when I find something good and put it on the market, by the time I play again, the value of the money I just got has depreciated. this isn''t a hard concept and your question was kind of stupid, just saying

[austere grove]

you can use t6

[compact olive]

500c still takes a load of time so i'm not quite there yet. my build has been fine so far

[austere grove]

i was able to get to 500c with scuffed gear on smite void knight then farmed there and made a decent amount of money

the strat is to buy the t6

because they are pretty cheap

[gaunt maple]

yes, but the inflation is happening so fast now, the time delay betwen something going on the m arket and me getting to play again is erasing the value. Why is this hard for people to understand? Are you guys just like terminally online so you instantly get to react to purchases in real time?

[grim flint]

I just wanted to find out how much time u actually have to play the game , 2 hours is kinda limited yes but pricechecking your items and adapting ur listings to the current market will definitely help you with your problem . Maybe ur just unlucky on one day but then mor lucky on another . U will def get to the point where u wanna be even though the market prices are high .

[gaunt maple]

holy shit dude, read above post and please incorporate the dimension of TIME into your thinking

[austere grove]

also rune of havocs are really good. i made a lot of money havocing t7 mods

[signal leaf]

yee

they make you alot of gold

[compact olive]

i think another problem is for $20 you can hit gold cap and buy literally anything on the market

[austere grove]

how can you rmt in this game?

[grim flint]

But if you know that the prices will go up the next day anyway then just lost your item for double the amount of what it costs now and dont be angry if it just undersells .

[austere grove]

there is no play vs player

trade

[compact olive]

the most efficient way of playing last epoch if you don't have access to dupes and exploits is working at mcdonalds then spending $20 on 2 bil gold lol

[austere grove]

unless you have teh blessing or whatever

[weary berry]

you put something on the market???

[gaunt maple]

LOL so try to calculate the rate of inflation AND try to time it so the transaction will occur as close to the next time I get to play as possible? Dude, wtf? How about no? How about I just don't play

[compact olive]

just speculation but i assume people list some trash item for like 2 bil gold

[austere grove]

oh i see yeah i can see that

[compact olive]

gold has zero meaning since something is infinitely printing it so the 15% tax doesn't matter

[weary berry]

ye no point playing like this you go to sleep and wake up with your gold losing half of its buying power

[grim flint]

Have u tried COF atleast?

[austere grove]

but still you can make decent money just with crafting with runes of havocs now

[gaunt maple]

Yeah, I can't believe anyone is trying to justify it lol ("just plan better") lol

try it in real life bro!

[signal leaf]

i play 2h aday cant buy lp4 items XD

[grim flint]

The same would also happen if the market prices would be at a normal state . 4LP items are super super endgame like ur char cannot get stronger so dont blame that on the inflation.

[austere grove]

you dont need 4lp items for 99.99% of the builds. with the 1lp gurantee slam 1lp give a lot of value

[signal leaf]

yes,

[misty tulip]

a lot of builds can kick tons of ass with all 1LP

tho some really want 2, the weird ones

[grim flint]

2 hours a day is nothing compared to other people so why should u be able to buy endgame items when u only spend 1/10 of the time they do

[signal leaf]

thets how they think Xd

thets blame the duping

[grim flint]

Yeah thats just not reasonable and super low IQ thinking

[austere grove]

like i spent 2-3 million on 1lp items for void knight that let me farm 500c very easily

[compact olive]

huh? there's certainly some source of infinite gold generation otherwise you wouldn't be able to rmt billions of gold for almost nothing

[gaunt maple]

there are 2LP uniques selling for 80mil and they were 30mil 48 hours ago. When I make some big sales, collect my funds, excitedly go to make a purchase and see the inflation, it's crushing lol. It makes me not want to play. It's great that some people get to play 16 hours a day and can react to inflation immediately in real time...I don' thave that luxury

[compact olive]

i can still afford most items i want even if it leaves a sour taste in my mouth

[austere grove]

you also have to pay attention to the rolls. the high rolls will sell for more

[signal leaf]

im more annoying about you cant filter legendary stats Xd

[grim flint]

My items basically insta sell , in ur situation i would just spend one day full farming and when u login on the next day u can basically list the items based on the current market prices

so u wont loose any money over night

[signal leaf]

like finding a decent stated Nihilis. is a hell

[gaunt maple]

ok, that's definitely a tactic, but it's pretty inconvenient and I think the inflation rate in the game is way too insane right now

[austere grove]

i bought mine for 4million 1 lp

with 14 res like 11 more armor

[weary berry]

its so fast if you sell something and don't buy something instantly you're losing money

[austere grove]

and +1

[signal leaf]

ye but whan you whant +2 skill mana reg + ress+ armor + and all im implicit decent rolled

[austere grove]

i had a +2 drop with good stats and accidently sold it

when i was trying to sell my +1

[grim flint]

Yeah bro but these are god items and ment to be expensive

[signal leaf]

i have gold

but the serch for them in bazzar

is a pain

[austere grove]

you can buy the +1 with decent and try to farm for +2

[signal leaf]

i did buy 15

XDS

and nemesis them

[grim flint]

Its a 15% chance on abberoth to drop if i remember correctly

After some time u will get it

[austere grove]

thats a good strat and you can also sacrifice

[signal leaf]

lp 2 ones can still r oll wrong

[austere grove]

like mg is good with all the new woven stuff to reroll you can buy bargain and try to turn them

[signal leaf]

so need a few

lp 3 2 stats should hit XD

pray

[austere grove]

i wonder what cof is like with the extra drops and uniques have a higher chance to be lp. prob drop 1lp nihils all the time

[signal leaf]

is like 2-3 days of playing

to mutch loot

[pearl idol]

anyone here know how much do immortal vise go for?

[gaunt maple]

yesterday, today, or 8 hours from now?

[pearl idol]

today

[gaunt maple]

can we ban this dude lol

[frozen ledge]

wtf are this prices? last year in 1.0 i was selling last steps with 9.5m, now the cheapest one is 70m wtf

[gaunt maple]

gold dupes

[civic robin]

has EHG made any statement yet about the dupes?

[gaunt maple]

no they tapped out....again

[hybrid raft]

What's the best favor per hour guys?

just temple farming?

[novel geyser]

my question got ignored again 🤷🏽‍♂️

[dusky swift]

nope. They just bury their head in the sand for another season

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they removed MG from the game next season

[novel geyser]

they should

no point having if they cannot handle it

[signal leaf]

ye if you go abow lp 2 ye

lp 1 and 0 lp ischeep

[leaden bay]

I find this whole thing really funny. Prices on items went up? Okay, sell items that are expensive? Lol? It works both ways?

[signal leaf]

and spec in to Gift Allegiance.

in the weaver tree

[signal leaf]

agree

making 100s of milions

just by playing a few houers

the weaver tree helps alot, and the new runes

[leaden bay]

Someone just posted T7 hybrid life belts are like 100mil. It's so free lmfao. You can print those with havoc and redemption runes.

[signal leaf]

yeep

[carmine minnow]

Im on MG and wanna try a new build that things are somehow expensive maybe I should try CoF

[mental wind]

hello guys any one have high currption?

[austere grove]

off meta stuff is super cheap

im about to build a spellblade here and the gear is dirt cheap

[dusky swift]

if you're playing meta stuff you're screwed

just go cof

[turbid birch]

did devs address the dupe issue?

[shut cradle]

inflation increased by an average of 20% more today, so don't think so
but items being more expensive means you can also sell your items for more and catch up anyway

[turbid birch]

Not really because if no one has the gold to buy them they simply stay there. Either you are lucky and sell to a duper or you just don;t sell

[undone prism]

Is there actual some duping going on or just a speculation at this point? (all games people cry duping regardless of actual evidence).

[shut cradle]

The stupid rmt bots are selling for 100 mil a dollar, ofc there's a dupe

[undone prism]

I suppose as a casual player I would have never noticed anything lol

So far its go to the market and have been able to buy pretty much everything that i've wanted without ever thinking anything is out of the ordinary.

[signal leaf]

ppl just whana go zero to hero

[undone prism]

I guess I would never know lol

[signal leaf]

they follow a guide then click endgame and try to buy it

but the guide did say 2lp

[undone prism]

I'm sure if stuff priced for LP1 and T6 affix stuff was crazy (at least for me) then I would suspect something is off. But the prices even for me seem fine.

[signal leaf]

1lp or 0lp dont cost alot

same t6 is cheep

you can easy get to 1k corruption with just t6 rolls etc

[undone prism]

Then thats why I don't suspect anything haha. Right now I have about 15 million or so and rank 10.

[signal leaf]

and 1 lp items

i buy 0 lp and nemesis farm

igusse the ppl who compline not even rank 12 yeat

[undone prism]

Seems about right where im at. Maybe the dupes and big price stuff is for the end game hard core gamers that blob out all day?

[signal leaf]

yes

i made around 150-200m today

[undone prism]

I think so far im around 2 mill per day lol.

[signal leaf]

and still have my dump tabs full

[undone prism]

But i'm sure if I could play a ton more a day I would have more to spend.

I do need to make a loot filter though since I know im probably running by stuff that would sell.

[signal leaf]

a friend thets play a few houers a day did find 2 idols sold for 90 m

[undone prism]

I know first season someone made a pretty good filter for the MG that I used. And was very beneficial to use.

[signal leaf]

just google Sanctum LE filter

[undone prism]

good idea!

[signal leaf]

and the runes havoc and Redemtion

makes you milions too

[undone prism]

hmm the Sanctum Market filter? i see it on reddit, but nowhere to download it

[shut cradle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kPebdP3xG101Gy_y521ScrdrhMWXkmGM2oLu6Lg2Alg/edit?gid=75189694#gid=75189694

[jaunty pond]

any got a good weavers tree setup/strat for merchants guild?

[strange haven]

roast battel

[misty tulip]

So whats the best item to put in the top left slot for exalted. Anything with 2 t7?

in weaver tree

[opal yarrow]

T7+ Sentinel gear so you can sell it for big $$ and keep driving inflation upward

[misty tulip]

but with two t7 affixes right

does it matter which affixes i pick?

and if im a mage will it still drop as sentinel

[jolly crest]

arent imprinted stuff non tradeable?

[spiral kindle]

used to be tradeable, but shouldn't be now after patch.

[jolly crest]

that would be so broken if tradeable exs off imprints

[misty tulip]

wtf when was this patch?

that kills what little decent gold i had incomming

[spiral kindle]

thought it was the last big patch? 1,2,1 ?

[leaden bay]

Only if the initial imprinted item is untradeable

[misty tulip]

well earlier today i sold stuff that dropped from imprint

[spiral kindle]

I just kinda think trying to farm gold through MG is a very wrong idea, season 1 was better than this

[misty tulip]

yeah its real bad

COF is the way to gy by a HUGE margin unless you're some trade god.

[spiral kindle]

UX wasn't improved in any means, very irritating to list items

[mint sapphire]

lol, nice someone was selling Apathy's Maw for only 100k

2 LP

[misty tulip]

so if I imprint 4 Sentinel Items in all 4 slots, as a mage, will it drop still as sentinel gear?

[spiral kindle]

they should've kept the 0 gold minimal price instead of 500 😒
and not close UI everytime you list an item

[misty tulip]

with Two T7s, what wiill thsoe affixes be, random?

[spiral kindle]

I thought affix rolls depends on the parts, not class

I roll minion rolls 24/7 even if I have no access to minions

[misty tulip]

so a sentinel chest in all 4 slots i will get sentinel chests even as a mage?

[spiral kindle]

suppose

[misty tulip]

hmmill test it later

also, exalts can be placed and drop in all 4 right? n

[spiral kindle]

I can only recognize severe change on class idol drops, that it's WAY MORE towards current class

but don't think affixes lean towards class

[misty tulip]

oh i mean like specific chest. chest peices are class only

like [mage only]

ill test it later

Basically I'm wondering if as a Mage, putting 3 Sentinel Chests will make the Imprint procc only Sentinel chests

[spiral kindle]

imprint only works if it's global drop, then it'll drop that item with a roll "similar" to its imprint, not the same, some times not even close

[spiral kindle]

that, yes

[misty tulip]

nice

will the sub-type change tho?

like ringmail vs forgeplate

[spiral kindle]

it will drop that exact item type

[misty tulip]

but the T7 will be random affix right

not same as you put in

[spiral kindle]

yes, affix roll will be random

[misty tulip]

thx

[spiral kindle]

though it said "similar", but not that close at all in my view

[misty tulip]

uhh lowest lp1 RR went up by like 10x since a few days ago

thats a GG

this might be the fastest i've quit a arpg season

At least for S3 I know what to do

[sick flare]

yeah ithink its the final season i go MG

the gold you make along the way is just too insignificant

[misty tulip]

yeah due to daily inflation of like 2-3x

[sick flare]

gold sellers find gold dupes every season

[misty tulip]

10x the rate of which i make gold and god forbid i go on vacation a few days

then im totally scwered for even meme builds that no one plays

[sick flare]

i need a lawyer

[placid canyon]

season 2 is amazing rn yall crazy

[sick flare]

I'm sure it is if you are buying gold

[leaden bay]

Y'all are funny. Literally just sell VK gear.

[sick flare]

if it was that common it would be worthless

[leaden bay]

It's that easy to make.

[sick flare]

if it was that easy I wouldn't be broke and people wouldn't be buying gold

[leaden bay]

Abuse imprints. Use new runes. Pull Lightless runs. Farm relevant bosses. Use the resources you have available man.

[warped owl]

I'm confused, I bought a titan heart with 1 LP, then I bought a chest plate with an exalted +3 warpath, then I went to the eternity cache to merge them. The merge failed due to "conflicting class requirements". The warpath affix was sealed. Did it fail because it was sealed or because it was on a piece of Sentinel Body Armor and Titan Heart is not class specific?

[sick flare]

post pics of them here?

the fact its sentinel body armor makes no difference

[warped owl]

https://i.imgur.com/JKB3u1r.png

https://i.imgur.com/omoVkQB.png

[sick flare]

links dont work

[placid canyon]

ive been making like 20m a day from just random drops its not that hard just play the game lol

[sick flare]

hook me up with a couple mill then m8 it should be np for you

[warped owl]

I think I figured it out, the sealed affix doesn't count so it doesn't have 4 affixes.

Is there some way to tell if an affix is sealed on the market

[sick flare]

add more affix

[warped owl]

I just wasted like 200K on this

[sick flare]

cant u add more?

or no forging potential?

[warped owl]

I did but I can't guarantee this affix since it's sealed, it won't be taken by the cache. And this is the one I need.

[sick flare]

ahhh

yeah there is the sealed axxif show down the bhottom

warpath should be 1 of the first 2 stats on the item

also you can hold down ALT

[teal willow]

Uhh I was out of town for two days and everything costs way more. I literally can not do any red ring build ever as mg

[sick flare]

red ring is very very rare possibly the rarest item in game i fink

[teal willow]

I make a lot more than this and COF will get the good gear exponentially faster. One LP rr is 800m

[teal willow]

Not for Cof lol

MG is players don't realize how much faster and easier it is to gear as cof now. Especially with duping and rmt

[sick flare]

i will be going cof from next season

[teal willow]

Same

This is unplayable

[sick flare]

i guess i could start now but i'd have to start a nbew character as the gear wont work

[teal willow]

Yeah I'm not regrinding faction.

Got too many other games to play then be punished with this trap option

[placid canyon]

then why are you crying lol

[visual ore]

Its so easy to do money

I make like half a billion a day

[compact olive]

a lot of people, including myself, are in this boat. mg just isn't fun when everything's inflated past the moon

RMT absolutely destroys any legitimacy MG ever had since true good items are sold for gold cap

[sick flare]

can u buy me a bastion of honour with 1lp plz m8?

[warm lantern]

what is the pricing of 3LP 'Legacy of the quiet forest' belt please

[sick flare]

look in the baz

[hollow sand]

Can confirm. As CoF, once I hit max rank it only took 2 days of ring prophecies to get a red ring. Then got my second from imprints

[gaunt atlas]

How tf this game get gold dupe every league?

[hollow sand]

Technically not an dupe

I heard someone inply it was just a rly good gold farming strat

Maybe exploit

But not a bug

[gaunt atlas]

I came back after 3 day and hybrid belt t7 starting from 50m like wtf lmao

[hollow sand]

Come to cof

It legit is rly fun

That's why I came in this channel. I may be wrong, but I think i remember that going up in faction ranks is faster if ur higher in the other faction

[gaunt atlas]

Nah i think im done with this game for this season. This trump prices made me logout

[novel geyser]

in 1.0 key selling was a "rly good gold farming strat"
well it was not that good, but it was literally the only viable gold farming method

and while it didnt give literally billions of gold in hrs, it got patched almost instantly

i highly doublt that a legit gold farming strat that can pour trillions of gold into the market each hr can survive that long

[frozen ledge]

yesterday red ring lp1 700m, today 1.1b

[hollow sand]

We need tax brakcets

Lol

[frozen ledge]

aint no way im playing MG for the rest fo the patches

[novel geyser]

tax won't do anything when you can literally make gold out of thin air

[hollow sand]

To like

Delete gold after a dupe

Idk if u can track gold

But maybe deleting everyone's gold by a bracketed amount

Like if u have gold cap you lose 50%+ of it

[dull rover]

how are people on forums and reddit still coping there is no dupe?

in 1.0 on day 10 before the dupes were 'invented', there was:

• no 15% tax
• no mastery respec gold sink
• raw gold income on 2k+ corruption was literally like 10+ million per hour, way more than now

And prices were literally 10 times lower than we have now xD
Obvious giga dupe is obvious, ye people are still coping for no reason and only harming the game by then claiming there are no dupes

[sick flare]

if someone is making 500M a day (as someone said above) then there is definitely a gold dupe bug/exploit. Not saying he is doing it but he is managing to sell items to make that much gold proves it.

[dull rover]

im making 1.5 billion by farming uber abby for 8 hours bro

just by selling items, so im not generating any gold into the economy

[sick flare]

exactly, gold sellers are flooding the market with gold and that is why you are making 1.5B gold

[dull rover]

shattered worlds 1lp is 1 in 40, i can farm 20 abbies per hour if i have woven echoes

so 1 in 2 hours

and worst roll is 450m

[sick flare]

your customer base is mostly gold buyers i guarantee it

[dull rover]

0lp is one in eight, and its like 60m for worst roll

[mighty kite]

It is so sad. Before every season/patch a few people come to CoF chat , to tell everybody how superior MG is. After every season start, whenever you come to the CoF chat, happy people and mad MG. Everytime.

I mean I can even understand that a RR is not affordable for 90% or more of the players, at least that has nothing to do with RMT or any dupes. I think I dropped 2 Red Rings naturally in 3 seasons now in around 2,2k hours of playing. In the end it is the same in every trade environment, the masses "feed" the top players 🙂

Btw, even gold seller gold must be farmed, you are aware? 🙂

[sick flare]

gold seller gold is almost always gotten via dupe/exploit m8

[dull rover]

what i despise the most is whole forums is just gaslighting everyone there are no dupes and getting offended or calling me conspiracy theorist
and every time they are wrong cause giga dupes are finally getting exposed

and it will be exaxt same next cycle unless ehg takes this thing seriously

[sick flare]

you can buy 1.5B gold for like $15USD or less. i just looked it up

[dull rover]

yep

[sick flare]

if you are playing legit and struggling this is why

people spending a couple bucks and buying anything they want

[dull rover]

yep

and only legit consistent way to make money is to farm uber abby

otherwise u just need to get lucky with 1b drop

[sick flare]

the gold i generate by just playing the game is completely insignificant because of all this gold inflation. gold drops in game dont keep up with it. so when i play legit i cant afford to buy anything.

ive managed to get lucky a few times and get items i sold for 5M~ a few times but obviously that doesnt buy me much

i think im going to just start over and go COF

[mighty kite]

But if gold dupes are all to blame, wouldn't retail prices rise for everyone?
Sure, those who buy gold have a short-term advantage. But if you feel COMPLETELY left behind, that has little to do with the total amount of money in circulation.

[sick flare]

if i sold an item for 1B gold today, that same item will be 1.2B in a day or 2. The only way to keep up with inflation is to buy gold.

[mighty kite]

Of course, those who can bring in external resources have an advantage.
But your sales prices will then also rise “by 20% every day” (quoting you here), which will always leave you trailing behind, but this effect would not make you economically excluded.

[novel geyser]

i think both you and him has valid points Volin

[candid coral]

theres no advantage, theres no real economy, there is no race or reward. if you find an item with no gold dupe and its worth 100k, great. if you find that same item with a gold dupe, then its worth 1mil, or 10mil. it is all the same

[novel geyser]

the one who fell "left behind" are those who played for days before the price skyrocketted, then take a break for maybe a day or less, thinking they can finally afford some upgrades when they come back. Just to see prices of items they were saving up for increased x100 times

i got friends like that which quit the games

[sick flare]

It's all the same MINUS inflation. That 1M or 10M you made will have its value halved within days that would otherwise not happen anywhere near that quickly.

[novel geyser]

of course if you're half decent at understanding how economic goes in this situation like this, you'll be able to farm and go along with it. But it invalidate any progress made before the crisis hit

[sick flare]

Inflation hurts everyone including gold buyers, it means they need to buy more gold to keep up.

[novel geyser]

you know im saying

[sick flare]

someone playing legit can not keep up with inflation

[novel geyser]

but you can, by farming meta items and sell them at inflated prices

arbor is a good start

[sick flare]

thats not inflation

[novel geyser]

but it's not the point

[sick flare]

you can sell those items and within days the money you made has much less buying power

[novel geyser]

oh that i agree

[sick flare]

so you are making the assumption that the average player is able to farm big items every day just to keep up with inflation

[novel geyser]

but that still depends on what degree of items are you minmaxing to

[sick flare]

keep in mind that by making raw gold by just playing the game is now almost meaningless. so you are now dependent upon finding rare items to make any real gold.

[novel geyser]

"making raw gold" is not a thing now

[sick flare]

yes exactly

[novel geyser]

it's completely insignificant

[sick flare]

EXACTLY

[mighty kite]

again on the "big items", that everybody wants:

Let's take, once again, the RR as an example. I didn't have enough natural red ring drops in 2.2k hours of play to equip ONE char with 2x T7 RR. So if I want to have 2 Red Rings in MG, like everyone else, then my need alone, for just one character, will ensure that 10 people find RR for me and have none themselves.

[sick flare]

because people have flooded the economy with probably trillions of gold

[mighty kite]

Did you trade you naturally found Jah and Ber runes in D2 or did you trade your naturally dropped dozens and hundreds divines in PoE? Most people don't 🙂 They make smaller trade to fund the big trades. What is lying on the floor for average players, MUST be insignificant^^

That has nothing to do with RMT

[twilit saffron]

Can you filter the affix value on unique items? Or we still have to look through one by one??? this is driving me crazy

[hollow sand]

The economic illiteracy in here is crazy

High inflation means any past work is devalued

I.e. any money you save, any items u sold last week, etc, all mean so much less than what they mean today

Which also means, why sell items today, when u can save them for tomorrow's price

Gold no longer holds its value, it diminishes over time

But items hold their value

So you hold onto items and don't sell them

Until the economy stabalizes at higher amounts of money

Less items on the marketplace just hurts the market

Anyone still selling has to go sell tomorrow too because all the gold they just got is now worth less than it was a day ago (by worth less, I mean it has less purchasing power / it can buy less items) but if u hold onto your items, your total net worth goes up

And ultimately it's demotivating to play a video game and spend a week getting items to sell and then have the money u made mean nothing next week. And just boring to farm items and not sell them hoping the market stabalizes.

[native pawn]

is T7 move speed + t6 hybrid HP really worth 1.6b gold ? i searched and it's the only result on market

[tiny spire]

whats the easiest way to find replacement items so i can switch to cof?

[mighty kite]

Extremly dependant on your gear levels and your build I'd say.
Imprinting smaller uniques, replacing rare uniques with exalts, running many Nemesis (Woven Echo) and hoping for some Havoc/Redemption luck would be some general stuff I can throw in

[signal leaf]

love this blame game XD

are you guys even rank 12 with mg and lvl 100?

[mighty kite]

12 CoF and 100, yes 🙂

[signal leaf]

eavrygame ppl blame rmt and dupe becus they cant make gold XD

[tiny spire]

do imprints not lock the item to the faction though? or just not tradable?

[mighty kite]

Sorry mate, I have no experience with that, just throw in well meant ideas 🙂

I personally would just remake the char in the other faction. Even more considering we are just 10 days in the current season

[ornate oak]

is there like no way to search a spesific idols? i need to turn pages until i maybe hit the one i need and hope its not overpriced lol? is there any tool or a site that have prices or something?

[normal bison]

The [More] button will let you search for affixes. But searching for a specific size is more annoying if you're looking for affixes that are on several types.

[ionic sage]

I can't find idols i need to buy cuz the affixes is different (?)

[signal leaf]

atlest it is easy to s erch on weaver idols

[ornate oak]

yea i know about the more, the thing is it got only "minion phys pen" which i need in my case, but i also need "inc minion phys damage" which is not listed in the affixes search
so im down to search it with multiple other options that i dont need smh

[ionic sage]

Well I can't find few specific idols, maybe I'm stupid idk

maybe someone could explain to me how to search for them

[signal leaf]

Fanged under weaver idols

for pen

Fanged is the name of it

[ornate oak]

mhm that's the prefix i know, the problem is the suffix

unless im stupid (which in this case i hope i am) theres no search option for suffix

[signal leaf]

noop

is missing

[ornate oak]

interesting honestly, wonder if the devs got a reason for it

[ionic sage]

guys higher lvl in merchant = more items I can find in marketplace

or I can just buy better items with that level?

[signal leaf]

you can buy more item

[ionic sage]

I see

[signal leaf]

diffrent quality of item etc req diffrent rank

click y

[ionic sage]

Soo I believe the marketplace is lacking

can't find items i need

[signal leaf]

serching for idols is a pain

[ionic sage]

It is...

[ornate oak]

the game is great, the market is pretty wild in the sense of design

[signal leaf]

what item you looking for ?

[ionic sage]

I need curse spell damage and necrotic res

or necrotic penetration and nec res

[ornate oak]

you can search the curse spell, and then look for the idol you need by the name in the title, that's what i do, sounds dumb but i think that's the fastest way unless you also know the price range for your idol

[ionic sage]

I know shi.. about prices xd

[ornate oak]

hahahahah welcome to the club

[ionic sage]

and also looking by a name is twice as pain in the ass

im doing warlock build, tried to look by a name

couldnt find anything

[ornate oak]

yep, i went 14 pages untill i found my first one for 17mil

[ionic sage]

Im at lap 29

already

gonna be max verstappen in no time

[ornate oak]

the real grind is in the market search :c

[ionic sage]

they should redesing the whole marketplace

[ornate oak]

they should do something similar to POE, i can find my father in the search options there if i wanted to

[ionic sage]

The one who went out to buy milk?

[ornate oak]

:---( yes

[ionic sage]

I hope you will find him there!

But I agree POE marketplace is better

You can choose everything you need

[ornate oak]

twue twue, i think theyre working on it, like no way they think its ok

[ionic sage]

I hope so

Or I will sue them to pay my doctor's bill

my eyes are on fire

barely sees anything

[turbid birch]

I just killed normal aberoth at 350 corruption.
Whatmonolith would be better to push corruption on?

[past surge]

theres several money printer monos

mostly those who drop Sentinel gear lol

blood, frost and death is also good

[signal leaf]

is not hard as legit

[mint sapphire]

what corruption do you need for T7 affixes to start dropping if you aren't in COF? I'm at 500 and only getting T6 drops

[coarse basalt]

Hello, do you think transitioning from cof to mg with a level 100 is worth it or i'll be too far behind in economy?

[signal leaf]

well abit

you cant use the gear thet is cof taged

so is gona be like starting over with some perks

[coarse basalt]

I'm not scared about the gear, half of it is already non cof and the other half i can probably find a bit weaker alternatives in my stash.

Will i be able to sell items i stockpiled or are all of them untradable? Also do my mg characters share the same stash with cof?

[signal leaf]

cant sell any gear thet have cof tag

[coarse basalt]

And for those that do not have it?

[signal leaf]

not sure sry

[leaden bay]

T7s aren't gated by corruption. It's just "level 90 area or higher".
Set up a rule specifically to highlight all T7s, I guarantee you're dropping them and not realizing.

[mint sapphire]

nope, my filter shows all t7

[jaunty pond]

Anyone got a good weavers tree/strat to run for Merchants guild?

[heavy helm]

When we list an item for sale it says there is the price you put on it and it goes on listing at an increased price... Does it really list at an increased price?

[eager sail]

Yes

[teal willow]

I can complain about a trap faction made for rmt or a handful of big market players. I assure you the number of people making half a billion in MG a day legitimately is tiny compared to the people easily farming RR in a COF.

[teal willow]

Agreed with most of this post.

[teal willow]

Got any tips? I might give this game one last try today

[signal leaf]

Just do monos use runes

Buy 0 lo

[teal willow]

Which runes?

[signal leaf]

The new Weaver ones

Redamtion and the other one do t remember the name

[teal willow]

I'm only at monolith 200 is that enough to start making good gold for red rings

I need 900 million gold somehow

[signal leaf]

200 and thinking about redrings XD

[austere grove]

the health and mana idols were selling for like 19 million a day ago. how is it at 109 million?

[teal willow]

Yeah I picked builds that require it lol rip

[signal leaf]

You aming to hige

No build req it

[teal willow]

Okay but knowing I'll never finish the build kinda sucks

What is the gold cap

[leaden bay]

2.1b

You woulda hated this game a bit over a year ago lol

[signal leaf]

Dont the build have a starter version?

[teal willow]

I could probably reroll cof and finish the build before I even get one rr

[leaden bay]

Red Rings were a luxury that maybe a single digit percentage of the player base got once

[teal willow]

No.

These are stat stacker builds and nerf dr

[signal leaf]

Redrings is just Hazel to use XD

[leaden bay]

There was a point in time where Bastion of Honor was considered a chase item.

And it was not that long ago.

[teal willow]

Also what corruption level do I start making gold. Will I make enough a day to beat inflation rate?

1000?

[leaden bay]

Acquire mana gear
Sell mana gear

[signal leaf]

You have not Rly started farming yet tbh

[teal willow]

I'm a mage btw

What build can I farm gold easy on that

[signal leaf]

Pick a build then thet fits your farm/game time tbh

Not go for end emd game ones

[teal willow]

I picked the Mets mage build for this season atm. But needs rr

But all those mages are cof and god full bis on one day

[signal leaf]

And they play 15h+ a day

For 3-4 days then quit XD

[teal willow]

If I play 15 hour is that enough to buy two lp1 rr

[leaden bay]

I'm of the opinion that CoF got a bit overbuffed tbh. 1.0 it was hell for anyone with subpar luck. Now it's practically free. Needs to be in the middle.

[teal willow]

Yeah

Either cof is too OP easy or mg nerfs some kinds help

The disparity is insane

I made 300 mill in two days but the inflation was way faster

At what point will I make enough to best inflation

[wise perch]

I cant keep up with the inflation either. I dont think anyone can without RMT'ing.

[tame grotto]

No amount of buffs to CoF will match the ability to just buy the items you need

[leaden bay]

Unfortunately inflation will always happen because there's no gold sink. Stash tabs are limited and Lightless Arbor is not actually a sink because it just generates more gold value

[wise perch]

Long threads about this on Reddit.

[teal willow]

The sentinels doing 2000c can keep up maybe

[signal leaf]

Who cares about reddit

[teal willow]

They seem right. Almost every top player uses cof

[signal leaf]

Is like 0,5% of the players who use it

[teal willow]

Or build maker

Ever Uber abby kill

[leaden bay]

There's a fundamental flaw in the economy system that cannot be resolved with "just add taxes"

[signal leaf]

We got buyers taxXD

[wise perch]

Yes there will always be inflation but it shouldnt be to this extent.

[tame forge]

I spent 100mil to reroll into erasing strike 2 days ago. Dropped a random 2LP Titan Heart with good rolls that sold for 200mil by itself

[signal leaf]

Is fine

Just play more

[teal willow]

You have to be a very OP build and have not missed a day

[tame forge]

I can confirm that sentinels are having fun either way with how high corruption farming strats turn out

[wispy tusk]

yeah but not everyone is that lucky

[leaden bay]

Having played other games with both buyers and sellers tax, it is surprisingly normal.

[signal leaf]

Idd

[tame forge]

2LP isnt even that rare if you imprint titan heart

[teal willow]

What you have to work extra for 4 days

And can't play

[leaden bay]

If there's no sink then there's no gold leaving, just exchanging hands. The tax is such a small fraction of the total that it will forever lead to prices going up exponentially by the day.

[weary berry]

wait 1 month and then sell items

[wise perch]

If that's the case then most players will be locked out of certain items if they do not RMT.

[teal willow]

Lol

So the most someone can sell red ring for id 2 billion?

Gold cap?

[leaden bay]

1.5b is the max, but tax sets it to 1.75

[teal willow]

I guess I can farm that

[tame grotto]

You're greatly exaggerating the issue, every game with trading eventually suffers from inflation but there's always a way to deal with it if you put in some effort

[signal leaf]

If you cant buy them while playing. You should not have them.tbh

[teal willow]

Okay. It will probably take me a few weeks. I'll try though

[tame forge]

PoE2 had same issues last time I played

[teal willow]

But two days on COf lol

[tame forge]

tbf items for most builds are pretty cheap, it's just the couple most op builds of the patch that are struggling

[signal leaf]

2 days of cof 20h a day

[weary berry]

just swipe your card for 5 bucks and you have it

[teal willow]

Yeah but this game has a faction were it's a lot less effort

[tame forge]

but that's a result of how uber aberroth is farmable by like 3 builds at best

[wise perch]

Not sure what you mean. But when you can buy 1bil for 10$ that puts regular players at a severe disadvantage.

[signal leaf]

Who cares about rmt lol

Play the game but stuff

[tame forge]

i was playing electrify javelin, had easy time getting t7 build items, high lp legendaries from trade

[signal leaf]

Easy

[weary berry]

you can get it for 5 now

[teal willow]

Or just play cof and get 6 of them lol

[tame forge]

then I got to uber, saw that I did 1/100 of erasing strike's dps

and noped out

[leaden bay]

Yeeeah been having this discussion in private server today. Uberroth is not well made.

[signal leaf]

Sounds like we have a few rmt buyers here

[wise perch]

Oh is this one of those games that people support RMT?

[signal leaf]

No

But we can farm

We make gold

[teal willow]

Maxroll BM player on hardcore died and gets his full bis, which includes two RR, back in a day after each death. Guess his faction.

[leaden bay]

I don't support RMT but I pity those who feel they need to. I'll just continue selling items.

[teal willow]

It's on stream too

[signal leaf]

Ppl aming way to hige tbh comperd to there time spent

[tame grotto]

CoF might seem "less effort" but it's not. In MG you can just farm gold and get everything deterministically, the only thing that CoF has an edge over MG is farming crafting materials which is necessary because you need to do everything yourself

[teal willow]

I guess the gold cap makes things less scary

[signal leaf]

Dont know why ppl feel they must have endgame items with out even playing

[tame forge]

I can't imagine getting 2LP World Splitter in CoF

like how many harbringers I would have to beat to get it in average

200? 500?

[teal willow]

I almost had enough gold for RR but the price jumped 8x

In that day

[tame forge]

in MG you just drop one exalt with +4 erasing strike and you're done

[leaden bay]

About 100 on average actually

[signal leaf]

The. You craft 10 of them XD

Same with rings

Mana craft

Relic mana crafy

[leaden bay]

Assuming you're just looking for raw drop

Add in Nem and Turtle and your odds are way better

[teal willow]

What corruption would you say I can ride the inflation wave. 800c? I'm a mage so it cant be too high

Gonna try to gear and push today

[signal leaf]

From 100+

Just play 14h

[teal willow]

I'm 200 ATM it's not fast enough

[tame grotto]

I imagine that they just see a streamer run around with perfect gear and think that they can magically have it too if they switch factions

[signal leaf]

Are you even rank 12 tbh?

[teal willow]

Yes

[signal leaf]

Yrs

[weary berry]

just dont sell items and you can keep up

[teal willow]

Lol

[signal leaf]

I sell all the time

And buy w/e i like

[teal willow]

Okay so what do you farm

[signal leaf]

Monos

[teal willow]

What class also

[signal leaf]

10h

Never stop

[teal willow]

Hmm

Sentinel?

[signal leaf]

Then you take a break for 1h and go to mg

[wise perch]

I find a huge disparity among people who say they cant afford what they need and people that say they can buy whatever they want. What is everyone missing here?

[signal leaf]

And put out items

[signal leaf]

Efficiency and play time. And knowledge

[teal willow]

You use the tsm filter?