💰┃merchants-guild

[crude hare]

yeah, I think if you find idol/item with +2 spell dmg, that increases your base, so it actually gives a lot

[frosty bear]

Thx m8t

[cold hazel]

so is there a website to know whats popular to sell rn? cause the market is all messed up, all prices all the way up to space and they not even good items at all.

[exotic forge]

Some builds (warlock) have passives that scale damage on crit multi. Might be inflating the market lol

[subtle solar]

Is there any way to search bazaar for certain "roll" on an item? especially on uniques? I don't want to go through 50 pages of listed items one by one.

[small jay]

This is the modern gamer mentality. "Upgrades now or im bored" "screw this im just going to buy everything i need, look at me im super powerful now!!!" "Kinda getting bored cos i have nothing meaningful to strive for"

MG feels like RMT but with gold instead of $$

[exotic forge]

Enjoyed MG this run. Market got insane though. Will definitely do COF the next time. Gear filters are so much better than MG search filters

[crude hare]

play 30 hours for nothing must be very fun for you

[subtle solar]

Just because buying for high prices is bad doesn't mean selling for the same high prices is also bad 😉

[vivid mulch]

WTS apostate's sanctuary 2lp

[livid matrix]

anyone free to let teleport to Sanctum and Maj , will pay 100K

[low saddle]

@subtle solar thats how inflation occurs

[subtle solar]

@low saddle you can't even search for the thing you are looking for exactly anyway... I totally regret switching from cof to trade but its too late now.

[crude hare]

Yes people have more money so willing to spend more

One thing is favor balance really bad

Favor in CoF was in constant deficit and favor in MG is in permanent proficit

[crude hare]

But yeah inflation is pretty bad, the item that was 4mln 6 days ago, is now 50mln

[drifting birch]

thats not even exagerated. red ring 1LP 6M 6days ago, 400M now with +5attributes xd

[distant kite]

yeah next cycle they really need a massive item sink

MG was pretty healthy early on

now its just out of control

[drifting birch]

just sold a mad ladle 55M 3LP i bought mine 5M near perf rolls

crazy

[distant kite]

ive since switched back to COF after almost minmaxing my falconer

ive got 300m or so with nothing to spend on

[drifting birch]

u've reached perf gear for that build? thats quite insane

[distant kite]

dual dagger falconer

1k corruption comfortably

[drifting birch]

hmmm thats not the strongest one

[distant kite]

friend pushed 1600 with it

[drifting birch]

the strongest goes to 4K my friend

[distant kite]

is there any point in farming 4k corruption

and is that online

[drifting birch]

sure, far more gold

more items too

[distant kite]

confirmed more items?

[drifting birch]

it is confirmed since corruption slightly augment LP chances

written in guides

i guess u do shadow daggers falcon, but strongest remain ballista explody

with double sword

[stark glacier]

Guides isn't exactly a confirmation but that bit is found in 1.0 patch notes too

[spice sequoia]

question, if i buy exalted in merchant guild and use it to make legendary this legendary will be with merchant guild tag or not?

[sand lantern]

anyone an idea how to price legendary LP2 steps of the living with t5 minion experimental port and 23% added movespeed?

[signal idol]

Will have tag

[signal idol]

Iirc it's about 15% and you get it around 500 corruption (probably like 14.5 or something like that), going up just goes toward that 15 so it's not a huge deal going over (for LP specifically)

[blissful rivet]

guys how do i get rank fast

i want to buy these cool items!

[drifting birch]

what about exalts then ? doesnt it increase the chance to get multiple T6/T7 affixes on items ?
if not, its just about getting more income per hour in that case (that is still huge to have 2M income per hour w/o selling anythin)

[drifting birch]

you raise ur corruption level to get more %exp . favor points are linked with the %exp you receive

[blissful rivet]

ty

[valid whale]

Spend your favor points, farm high corruption monos with xp book reward

[blissful rivet]

i need to spend the favor too?

[signal idol]

so, i don't think you have better chances to get multiple t6/t7s per se but it does* increase the amount of exalts you find so that'll lead to more multi exalt items, albeit indirectly

[drifting birch]

every favor point spent counts has double points received on rank

[blissful rivet]

ok

[drifting birch]

i see. do you know if there is a known formula about exalted drop rate based on corruption level ?

[signal idol]

don't know the details so i could be wrong, but i don't think it would be much different from base chance * rarity increase, maybe it has a harsher curve going up

[drifting birch]

yea exactly, that was my feeling too that it might have a harsher curve. coz the difference between 500 & 1500 isnt so obvious

[signal idol]

it could still just be linear without any adds, cause even in that case, let's say from 0 corruption you get 1 item and at 500c you get 10, that's a 10x increase, now let's say you got to 1000c and it's 20 items, it's "only" 2x, so the more you get the less you'll feel the drops

[drifting birch]

true

if its additive then its not upgrading much

[livid aspen]

as per the 1.0 patch notes:

Average legendary potential and weaver’s will now also scale up slightly with corruption. For example, Uniques have around a 5% higher chance for 1+ LP at 100 corruption, 10% at 300 corruption, and 14% at 600 corruption.

[signal idol]

oh whops it was 600, i stand corrected

[livid aspen]

with that scaling it does look like it falls off a bit

[shadow skiff]

anyone know why I can't search for armor shred gloves in bazaar ?

[signal idol]

sadly we never got the tech to search for it since the start lol

[shadow skiff]

ahh rip

[signal idol]

best way people went about it is basically filtering for exalted with nothing selected and... look trought pages and pages of items

[shadow skiff]

we xbox poe now 😄

[signal idol]

xD

[astral patio]

why is the bazzar so hella over prices

priced.

[drifting birch]

bugusing, rmters, pick your poison dude

[worn orbit]

over prices? mhmm i think its very fair. nearly all unique´s are 0 gold

[low saddle]

I used to thought that in poe some item are overpriced but prices in last epoch changed my view

[upper kraken]

hi guys, im mg8 aldy and want to switch to cof but most of my gear is from mg, is there a way to buy from players my current gear esp the main and offhand via trade?

[signal idol]

still happens in poe but.. in poe currency leaves the game, atm in LE gold doesn't go anywhere, unless you tell me people throw it at the arbor and i would doubt it lol

[low saddle]

Thank god poe have tft

Where u can price check easily

[low saddle]

Nope u have to farm gear to switch

[upper kraken]

@low saddle so no direct trade on gear? damn ty for the response

[low saddle]

Noo

[upper kraken]

but i just tried now i can put items on player to player as lonmg as ur both mg

[signal idol]

they'll be tagged MG so if you go CoF you won't be able to use them

[upper kraken]

ah okay make sense..tnx

[north skiff]

fellow merchant faction enjoyers, do we have any sheet or something for valuable/pricey pricey idols?

[rough rapids]

Is there a way to speed up the ranking leveling outside of just monoliths etc?

Feels like it’s taking forever.

[dense wind]

Is anyone able to hook me up with a tp to the mg?

[quiet oxide]

pogies sword 2lp went from 18m to 56m overnight, what is going on ?

2lp shackles 20m to 60m

[worn orbit]

best for ranking up fast is to buy unique 2-hand weapons.. and best for favor farming yea.. many monolith are the best from my experience

[quiet oxide]

there is no way to speed up beside farming emp mono exp book, level 94 is rank 7, level 97 spending 75% favor is rank 8

[rough rapids]

Thanks guys

[rain vessel]

Hello. Is there any delay to receive golds after someone buys my item?

[grand robin]

no

[rain vessel]

Thanks

[quiet oxide]

they actually sell for that much what https://imgur.com/a/0uEQiyw

[blissful rivet]

how do u see what items sell for?

[lost kelp]

LF 4 LP JULRA RING 2X

[quiet oxide]

you just look up what's they're being listed for, and list yours abit lower

[green thicket]

wtb stygian coal off hand catalyst

[brisk grove]

Wild

[lost kelp]

Im that guy 💰

[quiet oxide]

does 3lp even exist?, that ring has some really high lp level

[lost kelp]

Yeah its for sale for 1.4b

[brisk grove]

🐐

[quiet oxide]

lmao the only 1 ring 3lp for 1.3 billion

[lost kelp]

I want 2x 4 LP 💥

[brisk grove]

That type of power can’t be allowed

[blissful rivet]

bro bought coins

[brisk grove]

He on a mission to crash out the market

[real lynx]

Where do you go farm body armor bases (not uniques) when you are in this guild

[fossil barn]

im on USeast, is someone able to party up and i can tp to them to the bazaar?

[oblique night]

hi guys is there a reason behind why people list items for 0 gold? whats the purpose.

[quiet oxide]

not understanding the system properly, don't do it, it does nothing

[oblique night]

thank you for the answer, btw is there any tool or anything like that to price items faster?

i mean learn the price of items.

[quiet oxide]

unfortunately you just gotta learn

thankfully if you play in the end game you'll be very farmiliar with what's expensive most of the time

most of the time is high lp low life stuff, or new hot builds like the explosive dagger and ballista uniques

check wiki, if you get a unique drop at 2lp and the wiki saids "uncommon" or "rare" , might be worth checking its price

[oblique night]

thanks mate.

[woeful frigate]

what are some good loot filters for high value items

[dry knoll]

i sent u a link

[hollow sable]

guys im getting back on the game, hows the economy in legacy x cycle for the merchant guild? is it worth playing cycle? i read warlock exploiters ruined the economy, but dont know if they ruined legacy or cycle or even both

[exotic forge]

Helps new players out. They can get starter items really quickly. It’s why I do it. I won’t be using them

[dark quiver]

It's a way of dumping favor that doesn't end in disappointment for everyone involved 🤣

[cyan pewter]

Am I able to have one char In merchants guild one in CoF?

[small bloom]

yes you can

[opaque bobcat]

is there a search item by name function in bazaar?

[tiny spire]

is someone selling a bow talons of valor?

[hybrid needle]

Thinking about trying a MG character. How much gold would I have to spend to get a character fully geared for like corruption 300 or so? Any advice is appreciated;)

[brisk grove]

Depends on build

[solemn sail]

anyone selling last bear set itens?

[full forum]

To be honest, 0 to get to 300 corruption.

In fact, I was thinking of trying a 0 gold challenge. Only free items, not even drops from the floor.

[raw peak]

Doesnt it count like you spending your fortune? wut? Not that I do but I thought that's why people sold for 0

[quiet oxide]

the moment you list anything you already gain the favor (it is delayed so people think you need to sell) because you spend favor to list, so if you want to spend favor to gain level, just dump it at the vendor, much faster

[raw peak]

ah makes sense.

[silent juniper]

can someone check an item in the market for me ?

Prism wraps lp4 and shroud oif obscurity lp4

[low swift]

Prism not on the list and shroud is 80mil

[silent juniper]

true king

[merry tiger]

so are they gonna do anything about rampant rmt or is mg just gonna be plauged by it, and no reporting chat bot spammers isnt the answer

[silent juniper]

@merry tiger I dont think rmt is such big of an issue. Is just sad on those who buy but this is an RPG and can be taken at your own phase

[merry tiger]

brother u can google last epoch gold and see dozens of results of ppl selling 30 million gold for like 4 dollars lmao, it is 100% an issue, if its that easy to find and this game's main trading system isnt even a month old its 100% something they need to at least attempt to address

[silent juniper]

The thing is gold is pretty irrelevant for COF players outside of stash boxes

And if you buy gold to buy your build whats the point of playing this game xD is not like ladder players get any rewards xD

[merry tiger]

...what does that have to do with the fact that it exists and makes the game worse for the majority of the playerbase, also saying gold is irrelevant might be one of the worst arguments ive heard regarding this topic

[silent juniper]

I might be a bit irrelevant in the MG since I never been on your faction. But as an ARPG player I prefiere farming for my stuff

[merry tiger]

this community is absurd when discussing the real issues this game has

its nuts

the tribalism is worse than even d4 when it launched

[weary berry]

the market is cooked for normal people cuz of it

[silent juniper]

I guess I am just ignorant but i enjoy the game without trading. I use the gifting to gift to friends or to farm

@merry tiger @weary berry How would you solve the issue then ?

[weary berry]

well we need to wait for next cycle and hope they fix all dupe bugs thats the main reason why RMT is so huge cuz it made gold so cheap to buy

[silent juniper]

What dupe bug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R47Idl_YcFo if you mean this

is clearly not working to do anything

[north marsh]

Anyone free to tele me to the bazaar?

[real viper]

How much are arena keys

[steep crag]

how can i find items in the market of I can't filter multiple affixes and order by roll?

[dark linden]

Is there a program or anything for selling/buying - so new players ( me ) knows what i can sell and what i sells for, i have no idea about item value at this point. played the game for 1 week

[low prawn]

how do we filter for legendary uniques?

IE, already slammed

[dark quiver]

Filter by legendary instead of unique

[novel surge]

serious question, why do so many people play mg

[serene ridge]

i like the idea of selling items and buying them makes the game feel somewhat like an mmo

CF is objectively better

[novel surge]

yeah i did too, but the inflation is nuts : (

only reason im with cof. also i understand casuals that are mg

[serene ridge]

rmt causes inflation in all games

its quite hard to crack down on

[stark glacier]

Yeah I'm still waiting for anyone talking about dupes to name one too

[untold iris]

could someone tp me to the bazaar? ign RitualOfDecay

[graceful hill]

My friend dropped good item in monolith and he give me a gift to sell it on guild merchant because he dont have enough favor. But after gifting the item is untradable. We are both in guild merchant. If i give it to him back he will can trade it?

[dark quiver]

No
Once an item is traded in any way it can never be traded again

[solar oracle]

what is happening with MG right now ? everything is just going up like crazy

[jade violet]

Anyone online port me to the MG? IGN Startingblue

[frosty verge]

Really depends on your build. If you only need a few common drop unique, thats easily farmed as cof. However my starter only has the helmet and weapon not being unique and i got real tired trying to get even a bad 2 LP on my last parts. Also have 2 rare boss drops that ive farmed way to long without succes.

And gearing with exalteds is quite easy with cof. But MG will probably always provide exactly what you need, if youre playing meta builds its might be expensive but its going to be available

[ancient slate]

https://i.imgur.com/Fj7VnAm.png is this worth making a new char in merchants guild to sell?

[lone wolf]

is the base wand "siren wand" only available from MG? on LE tools it says its obtained from the faction gambler

[serene orchid]

I’m level 86 HC. I went CoF because more loot sounded good, but seems like I should be MG. Is it too late to switch? Like is the economy going to be inflated at this point and hard to participate in?

[rare veldt]

you cant compare on the fly right? have to go to the respective npc and compare prices before you sell?

[tight ocean]

Is there anywhere toncheck current sales online or only in game

[tiny spire]

correct

[fringe holly]

I just bought a ring off the bazar then it suddenly dissapeared... wtf?

[tiny spire]

Its never late to swap, if you're doing high corruption you can get rank 8 or whatever in a day, but still, you'll lose the ability to wear any CoF gear
And you lose your current favor so spend it for reputation

[boreal dragon]

"Cannot be traded" bottom right

[little oriole]

can you post vid of it with shadowplay?

[fringe holly]

Sadly not. But I bought it. Equipped it then the slot was empty

[little oriole]

relog?

[fringe holly]

Still empty

[slender venture]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1209443494402330635/1217971119160692787/image.png?ex=6605f6ff&is=65f381ff&hm=beb993b62f842c92c636e52b5c128cd1ed47d83c4a20319601462fddfad7d48c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=698&height=468 i love MG

[wispy cliff]

hi guys, can someone tell me how much is Wraithlord helmet pls ? (im in circle of fortune)

[hexed sierra]

Why I cant see shred armour on hit an option on merchants guild?

[near gale]

curious what builds (other than your own) you guys take into account for your loot filters

[solar oracle]

LP3 was today morning ~80m and now ~400m 😂

[wispy cliff]

looooool what about no LP xddd

[solar oracle]

I think 0 gold

[wispy cliff]

ty!

[solar oracle]

Lot of uniques with no LP are for free

[wispy cliff]

seems to be way better to choose that faction xd

[hexed sierra]

Why I cant see shred armour on hit an option on merchants guild?

pls help

[near gale]

think it's a bug

[thick epoch]

buddy of mine just got a 4LP Maehlin's Hubris. How much would that go for?

[pliant echo]

anyone got a herald of the skurry avail?

[crisp juniper]

Man I love poles - from whaht people were arguing about making changes mid cycle when it wasn't a bug I thought I was going crazy. Glad majority sees that no need to be changing skills mid cycle if it isn't some (10% but gives you 1,000%) situation

[crisp juniper]

Wdf anything 4LP seems to be for millions

[livid aspen]

you know one of the other problems with the market in this game is it seems like if you're not playing a meta build there isnt very much supply for you

[thick epoch]

wild cool i'll let him know

[lime crag]

Anyone got a good mg loot filter?

[noble silo]

anyone got a t7 dex ring with lightning/critical avoid/mana regen?

[fluid carbon]

Anyone has a link for tsm discord?

[sour oyster]

how do i search a 1h axe for shred? its not in the list, but i know it can be on one

[blissful rivet]

ur saying its not under searchable affixes?

[sour oyster]

ye

[round jungle]

have these zero Gold Items in the bazaar anything todo with the bots?

[blissful rivet]

maybe look again but i dont know

[blissful rivet]

nah they are trying to get ranks i think'

[round jungle]

i drop an lp3 item and it's worth nothing...

[blissful rivet]

some uniques suck

aka every single one i get with LP

[round jungle]

it's actually a good unique, it's needed in 2 builds, i hope the LE devs change the market..

[noble silo]

i got the only julras obsession lp2 in market lol, how is that possible

[blissful rivet]

how?

[sour oyster]

i can see in the forge that its able to put it on in the suffixes. but i cant find a 1h with one in the searchable affixes 😦

[blissful rivet]

if its a good unique going for nothing that just means u can buy the good uniques for nothing

[round jungle]

maybe no sellable Items with 0 Gold, or that people are just able to to put like 3 Items with 0 Gold in the store

[blissful rivet]

people just gonna list at the lowest price then

[round jungle]

but the merchant Guild need a lot of love anyways, hope there will be updates soon

[blissful rivet]

yea the ui can be janky

but i love a free market

[round jungle]

then maybe just 3 items with 0 gold, after that you can't put any items under 60k Gold

[blissful rivet]

i just dont see how that changes anything

[round jungle]

there are a lot of problem solves

[fluid carbon]

Anyone has a link for tsm discord? i heard they have a lootfilter for MG there

[blissful rivet]

fr

i need to join then

one of the annoying things is you cant filter individual Affix levels

[round jungle]

you can? lol

[blissful rivet]

really? am i just dumb

[round jungle]

i had a really good tutorial on youtube, one sec, i'm tryna find it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOAibfmGvi8

40 mins, it's not that one i had, but it should be fine

[fluid carbon]

Damn people wont share the discord

fk

[blissful rivet]

im talking about the market filters for buying items

[round jungle]

what's tsm?

[round jungle]

ahh, i'm dumb mb

[blissful rivet]

like if you want a sword with fire damage and attack speed and you want attack speed tier 7 and fire damage tier 5 you have to set the filter for both of them at tier 5 just browse pages

[tiny spire]

yeah you can't filter for different tiers on market

you can do tier 5/whatever minimum on all the ones you search or nothing

its really annoying

[blissful rivet]

thats the biggest oversight the second biggest one is you cant see the mod ranges at all you have to get a similar items or use other websites

[round jungle]

hope they will spend some love onto the market and game performance

[tiny spire]

the market is designed to be annoying to find items you want

I have no idea what they will do next Cx

[blissful rivet]

why?

[round jungle]

yea, i know, it won't look like that

maybe it's the game engine that's just shixxy

[tiny spire]

not sure exactly, its to be different from poe's trade site I think

[round jungle]

so it doesn't allow to have one NPC that got them all, because the game also has a lot of Loading screens

[blissful rivet]

nah because im sure the bots can scan the items way quicker

bots aint stoopid

[round jungle]

nah, i don't think so, LE is from player to players, the would add a good Market

[round jungle]

i think it's manual scanning, or there would be a website that scans everything, like a 3rd party tool

[blissful rivet]

wasnt there people just asking for a discord witha market filter tho?

[round jungle]

i heard that there's already a site, but i can't find it

[blissful rivet]

ye thats my point making it hard for the average player just makes it even easier for the bots

[round jungle]

but there is a youtube dude that scans the market by hand and updates the prices every 1 to 2 days with google docs

[blissful rivet]

damn

[round jungle]

it's also easier for normal players i think, bots won't buy an item for 1 or 2 mil

[blissful rivet]

because they buy the cheap ones...

[round jungle]

i'm also selling a lot of items that bots implement in their build, good side gold

[round jungle]

also easy small gold making method :x

it's sad that players like us have to somehow support the bots with that kinda stuff...

[tiny spire]

theres no point in just buying items

cause you can't resell them

[unreal mulch]

Hey anyone know why majoriy of my uniques with lp cant be traded?

[round jungle]

i mean, dropping items and just put them for 5 to 40k in the market

[round jungle]

if dropped in CoF they are not tradable

or when you bought them from the market

[unreal mulch]

i know i havent bought them from market

i dont remember all of these dropping from cof either

[blissful rivet]

uh to use them?

[round jungle]

why tf do we have a cat and an Ape in here

[tiny spire]

I mean the bots buying items

[round jungle]

henlo

[crystal nebula]

if i buy an exalted weapon, and slap it on a non merchant guild unique, does the legendary become merchant guild tied ?

[livid aspen]

what if this game had actual bidding like a WoW or D3(no rmt implied) auction house?
-less noobs selling items for under what they're worth
-less chance for highend players to miss the chance to buy the item with the right combination of affixes they're looking for

[silk rivet]

If they have either the CoF tag or just say Canot be traded, you dropped those with a CoF character.

[silk rivet]

No, ive used multiple CoF exalteds into LP MG items.

[unreal mulch]

ah so any item dropped by a cof character makes it untradable dang

[silk rivet]

Yeah sadly

[burnt osprey]

i just put a COF exalt into my regular legendary and it turned it COF. and im in mechant

[dusky olive]

If I buy something on the market can I gift it to a friend with resonance?

[noble silo]

why not ask your friend to set something for sale, then buy it - then he can buy the thing he wants? 😄

[dusky olive]

Because the item is one he can't use right now, but can later, and I want to get one thats listed now. Do you know if it works?

[low prawn]

dont believe you can trade or relist bought items

[dusky olive]

Bummer ty

[devout peak]

dupe guild kekw

[teal willow]

there is a new dupe?

[rare veldt]

you guys happen to know if a legendary become MG if i use a mg exalted?

[hazy depot]

yea

they should really put the answer to that in the game it gets asked all the time

[smoky gorge]

how long would it take to just blast maps from 1-8 guild ranking?

[wicked forum]

after 30h im still not even half way to unlock t7

whats the price on 3lp mad alchemist laddle or fragment of enigma ?

im CoF so just asking current price

[low saddle]

Tooo much

Prices in MF is soo high that its better to play cof because average gamers cant afford,i cant dont know about other gamer

[wheat scarab]

Depends on how high corruption you are pushing. It didn't not take long for me and was 100% worth it if you can push high corruption. I was 10 CoF and swapped.

Assuming that you are willing to play the game if you are asking such questions then the investment shouldn't be too bad. If you are only doing like 200 corruption though I don't think you should swap

[smoky gorge]

i can usually speed through 400 corruption in like 1 minute or so

so i imagine it won't take the 30 hours the other guy said xd

[trail hollow]

How do people do price checks? I been doing it old school just looking up the item i am trying to sell but that takes a lot of time.

[wheat scarab]

Prob okay forsure. I'd send it

[lofty crane]

is it best to sell a WW item as is or wear it then sell it?

[blissful rivet]

well depends on the affixes if you get good ones its worth more if u get bad ones its worthless

[lofty crane]

good point. just not sure the best way to go about my dedication of an erased primalist item lol

i might just sell it and let someone else take the gamble on the item

[blissful rivet]

its basically like selling a card pack without opening it

[lofty crane]

very good point. i know what thats like done it with MTG packs. or even doing the 100 doller box game.

[blissful rivet]

the only collectibles i have gotten into are coins

and not very much money spent cuz its kind of a waste

[tight swallow]

gamba on the marketplace is a fun time lmao

[static pollen]

Ya people are pricing in the billions for stuff. Why all the greed?

[livid aspen]

well, firstly, the things you see on the market are the things people -havent- bought. with no reselling the markets for a lot of items are not very liquid. you may be seeing things listed for prices they will never be bought for
secondly, gold sellers found (or were sold) gold duplication tricks, so if some of the things ive seen are to be believed, there are literally billions more gold floating around than should be in the game by now
thirdly, even without the duplication tricks, 100k average players in the last 30 days dropping 1,000s or 10,000s of gold every few minutes from each echo would generate a lot of freakin money across the whole game population. even if only a fraction of players play MG a lot of that money would still funnel to the best/fastest/nolife players pushing apex corruption and selling apex gear. Luxury goods cost on the order of an order of magnitude more in real life for the same reason. The rich get richer

[tight swallow]

gold sellers need to put food on they AI tables lmao

[trail hollow]

Cool I'm in merchant guild now but my stuff won't sell and i can't afford the items i want lol. Might as well go back to the other faction and farm the items.

[lofty elbow]

what level are u?

[lime crag]

bro the rmt is making everything more expensive im getting tired of mg

[lofty elbow]

its def gotten a lot worse in the past 5 days or so

[lime crag]

yea bro the rmt is making more gold available, more gold means prices go up

its a perpetual cycle

[livid aspen]

well, eventually most players will decide they wont pay more than $100 or so for an item

[lime crag]

it sucks for real players cause even if only 3% of players do it, those 3% are going to be basically the richest players and decide the market in its entirety

as gold becomes more common rmt becomes cheaper

give it a month and prices at worse half

and items get more expensive

its gonna suck

My issue is how are these dudes even botting to get that much, noe way its undetectable if thats what they're doing

and also people put a rare item up for 100m and it isnt flagged?

[desert quarry]

I'm sure they will add a confirmation mechanic for this soon b/c you're not the only one that has done it ...

[lofty elbow]

omnis 1lp rare? saw no lp was basically free nowaday

[unreal tartan]

any idea/guess how much an acolyte relic - with t6 poison dmg + t7 poison resist (both max roll) - would be worth?

tried check market but only 1 other (which was low roll) , at 2 mill, so not much to go by

[lofty elbow]

I just list it at slightly lower price for quick sell even if i lose out on extra money since at least it will sell if someone is looking

[unreal tartan]

ty, makes sense ig

[solar cloak]

so ive been grinding away for days now to try get my favor up. im almost 100k favor and im not even rank 5 yet.. like WTF gives.. i feel before i can even buy any LP items i will have over 1mill favor and the cycle will be over

[blissful rivet]

start your own merchants guild bro

[blissful rivet]

is RMT real market trading?

[lime crag]

Im talking about people just buying gold

[blissful rivet]

yea defintiely ruins it for others

[lime crag]

yea

[blissful rivet]

who tf spends their hard earned money to DOMINATE a single player game

[lime crag]

mg is good at first but at a certain point items being 200 mil at 2lp isnt funny

[blissful rivet]

thats why i like my build most the items are dirt cheap

[unreal tartan]

in the first place, having external factors/rewards (rep in this case) messes with the economy, fundamentally flawed system, idk why they made it like this, makes people post for reasons other than the items value, defeating the point

[lime crag]

If I wanna mess around with this build I made I needa push corruption and grind money on a meta build to get even close

Like if I go up to 2k corruption on that marksman build im sure I could grind 200 mil after awhile

but do i wanna go out of my way to make a meta build just to have fun with another build

idk

[blissful rivet]

i think its designed to discourage real money trading but people always find a way thus just making it worse for us normies

[lofty elbow]

idk im having fun rn esp after getting 500+ corruption made around 50m now with this new loot filter

[blissful rivet]

nice

[lofty elbow]

if my apathy of maw 3lp gets sold ill be at 150m

[blissful rivet]

sheeesh

[unreal tartan]

in what way? every player has to go through this, and someone doing this for shady reasons would have a more streamlined setup to do this, hence where we are. the way to go is ban ban ban

and stricter filters on char creation, weeding out bot names etc

[blissful rivet]

available at the end of a campaign, having to grind so much favor to buy anything good

[unreal tartan]

u can reach it by doing dungeon skips, ive done it on my past 3 alts, and im a "filthy casual" lol

[blissful rivet]

its still more than just booting up the game

[lofty elbow]

well also u need rank to buy the lp gear too

[blissful rivet]

im on empowered monoliths and still cant buy uniques with LP

[unreal tartan]

u think thats what stops them from doing this? xD
not the only game with this issue
as long as the stuff they sell outvalue the time they put in, they will keep doing it, regardless of difficulty

[unreal tartan]

buy, not sell

[blissful rivet]

no i dont but its clear the systems were designed to curb it as best as possible...

[lofty elbow]

i mean its hard to have a trade in game and completely ban rmt imo

[blissful rivet]

ya ive never seen that happen

[lofty elbow]

its a slippery slope just ban ban ban i think

[unreal tartan]

ye, but the baseline is to make a market that on its own functions without external influence, which at the moment, doesnt, as it encourages just mass posting no brain, for rep gain, instead of let item value arrive

imo instead, if they absolutely had to use rep gain tied into the market, atleast make it based on value per item sold/transaction value, not just posted (which encourages mass posting - and ironically - bots-, regardless of sale)

[stark glacier]

People are just still figuring out a new and unique system, is all

[weary crystal]

how much would you value this?
https://imgur.com/a/I9swg7t

[brittle viper]

which loot filter are you referring to? I could use a loot filter

[grizzled mountain]

I'll give you 100k for it

[weary crystal]

that is at least 100m xD

[grizzled mountain]

GL selling it for that... The rolls aren't even particularly good.

[weary crystal]

lmao wdym it's nearly maxed

[grizzled mountain]

What are you talking about? They're like average rolls...

[weary crystal]

lol no

[grizzled mountain]

mana - min roll
mana regen - low roll
area - average roll
spell damage - average roll
ele damage - above average roll
mana - high roll

No idea how you're getting "nearly maxed"

[weary crystal]

the implicits are the only low-mid ones

gl trying to buy one like that for 100k😂

[grizzled mountain]

I was obv joking about 100k, but it's nowhere near maxed, and the important ones are average.

For example, 275% is exactly average for area, and this rolled 289, max is 350. 312 is halfway between average and max.

70 is exactly average spell damage.

90 is average for ele damage. 120 is halfway between average and max. It works out to be ~81% of max.

[stark glacier]

Just let em list it for 100m since the intent clearly wasn't to get an actual valuation 🙂

[fringe gyro]

250h in game
400+ corruption
600 sold items (90% yellow items 20-50k)
For all time I spend 30-40m on my build and have 40m left.
Don't know what you mean about dupe.
If people play from the start and get to 1000 corruption, it's not problem to them to have 500m-1bil , in the start of game online was 200k, now 50-60k

For players how just started play it's not problem to get god building for free, just don't look at streamers in YouTube or twitch, that close 1000+ corruption and get same build for cheep price.
P.S. sorry for bad English)

[weary crystal]

the intent clearly was to get a valutation and not a ridiculous price offer from a scammer 🙂

[stark glacier]

🤣

[grizzled mountain]

Hilarious that you think someone joking around and offering 100k is a scammer... IDK what I expected from someone who thinks almost perfectly average rolls make an item, "nearly maxed" 🤣

[weary crystal]

👍 😉

[stark glacier]

I too am still waiting for anyone talking about dupes to actually name one
What definitely exists are comically broken (and bug abuse) builds that go way beyond 1k corr

[grizzled mountain]

The highest I've seen is like 3k, are there people going past that?!

[old pumice]

I've got multiple characters, some are with CoF, some are with MG. If I switch one character from one faction to another, do both factions get their favour reset to 0 or just the one I'm leaving?

[stark glacier]

I think 3-4k is what people push with the most broken stuff yeah, was thinking "way beyond" on a linear scale

[grizzled mountain]

Aren't those generally groups pushing to 3k though? Aside from the runemaster that was RMTing? Or using the vampiric pool or w/e that got patched?

[old pumice]

ok, just the one you're leaving

[dawn raptor]

got a funny story here. i was the first one who listed lp3 jungle for150m like a week ago when there was no lp3 jungle available on the market. then ppl started listing lp2lp3 for cute price 20-150m. now i just login and found mine sold for a hefty sum and it sold for much more than what it worth. brings me back good memories lol

[silver pecan]

Anyone have a "items to sell" type loot filter? I'm struggling to sell anything lol

[weary crystal]

https://imgur.com/a/P87EM0S was probably worth even ~50m more

[grizzled mountain]

GJ scamming someone

[weary crystal]

😂 i thought u were a scammer but at this point i start believing you were honest and just have no idea about the economy instead

[grizzled mountain]

I bought one about the same as yours for 20m 2-3 days ago...

[weary crystal]

have you ever heard of supply and demand?

[grizzled mountain]

Ya, I've also heard of hyperinflation due to gold duping...

[errant otter]

then why when he asked did you not say sell it for 20m ??

[grizzled mountain]

I already have one and was joking about selling it for 100k?

Why would I want a second one?

[errant otter]

he asked how much he could sell for, not if you want to buy one... and instead of saying I bought one for 20 mil you went on how bad his roles are...

[grizzled mountain]

I never said his rolls were bad. He claimed his average rolls were, "nearly maxed"

[stark glacier]

Why say 20m after they already settled on 100m+ (which turned to work out but still)

[weary crystal]

nobody settled on 100m. i already had an idea but i wanted to hear out opinions. when he came out with the scam/joke i answered him that it was worth at least 100m

[stark glacier]

Now read what you just said

Regardless though gz on the sale

[stark glacier]

I also continue to wait for anyone to name one currently working dupe

Since I'm pretty sure the real issue is the lack of gold sinks

[grizzled mountain]

Doesn't need to still be working... There was one with the soul gambler that I saw a video of.

[quiet oxide]

they just reduced stash price

so gold sink is even worse now

[weary crystal]

?

[stark glacier]

Digging into it a bit it seems to just be a visual dupe (client/server desync, wouldn't let you list whatever item you get since it only exists on your client)

Visual desync bugs are kinda common

[grizzled mountain]

The one I saw was duping gold by selling items, then sorting inv (which spawned them all back) then repeating. The guy swapped characters and the gold was still there, so I'd imagine it was more than visual.

[stark glacier]

Strange, every report on this I can find confirms it to be just visual

[half lark]

anyone can teleport us to merchant guild? in australia server

[static grove]

hey guys, is there any 3rd party website to check the prices on items ?

[twilit surge]

nope

[static grove]

😦

[ornate wren]

Is there a list of high value items kicking around that I could peek at to incorporate into my loot filter? Been struggling to find that info

[quiet oxide]

look at what unique you dropped, check wiki if it say"uncommon or rare", if it dropped 2lp it might worth money

[static grove]

is the market locked on regions ? or it's 1 market for every server?

[static pollen]

That is a good question

[static grove]

imagine price checking on 6 regions xD

[tropic patio]

One market for all

[static grove]

thx

[teal willow]

so is there really still a dupe exploit?

makes playing MG feel bad

i dont think one can catch up to a cheaters gold inflation, unless playing some busted build and playing religiously

[tropic patio]

inflation doesn't automatically mean a dupe. And even if you could sell the same item dozens of times (which was the case), the gold being generated would still be the same

The game currently has little to no gold sinks so its bound to have things grow exponentially in cost over time

[grizzled mountain]

That's if the dupe was for items, not gold...

[tropic patio]

What did each person do with their gold since cycle start? bought a few tabs, thats it. Every other gold coin is being hoarded and traded around, while constantly grinding more

[subtle falcon]

How does it work when you wanna change faction on one char?

I got 3 chars. Cof mg mg. I wanna change the first mg one to cof. What will happen to it? It takes the cof rank and favour of the first char, ie share it, and that's it? Will I lose the favor accumulated account wide on mg?

[grizzled mountain]

I bought over 50 tabs before the price drop. Bought tons of gear. Prices 10xing in a couple of days when it hadn't been doing that previously indicates something massive changed.

[tropic patio]

Every piece of gear you bought just moved gold from one player to another, effectively doing nothing

and do you really think everyone buys 50 tabs 💀

most people don't go past 20

[subtle falcon]

gold is losing value very quickly. Bone amulets with T7 multicrits go for like 50m. No point hoarding gold; buy items that you'll likely use on chars down the line

[grizzled mountain]

I can't relist the gear though...

There has also been massive attrition to the playerbase

[subtle falcon]

there is 100% some gold-farmign exploit going on, because even with item-duping exploits, that's not enough to explain why items go from costing 100k, to 1m, to 10m, to 100m in like 2 weeks time

item duping exploits would mean supply>demand, and price go down, if all else is equal

[tropic patio]

which is also part of what keeps gear valuable. we have means of burning gear (untradable after purchase) and bricked legendaries, but no means of removing gold from the economy. These two lead to items having absurd prices as the total gold generated raises and demand for gear keeps existing

[subtle falcon]

so exploiters mass-exploit gold generation -> RMT it to players -> ppl buy items for more and more gold

but overall it's a pretty small problem, only really affecting a small part of one faction tbh

[subtle falcon]

there is no point introducing gold-sinks preemptively while exploits exist tbh

[tropic patio]

yeah its the exploitman64 printing billions of gold every hour, damn you exploit man

its gg nothing can be done

[grizzled mountain]

Doesn't explain a 10x increase in prices suddenly. In addition to all the gold advertisers in global chat dropping their prices by 10x in the span of days...

[subtle falcon]

like my mate has a bad internet connection and he double-picks up stuff from the ground all the time... I can't imagine what people who intentionally try to expliot the game are doing rn 😂

[subtle falcon]

I didn't say that, but there is no point introducing gold sinks when billions of gold are exploited, and you can dupe items

you can see the same affixes high value items being posted like 5x, exact same rolls across all of it...

[tropic patio]

which literally does not do anything towards inflation 💀

ur still making the same amount of gold

[subtle falcon]

yes, duping items alone would mean items would become cheaper, not more expensive

so there must be means of exploiting gold generation

[teal willow]

i heard there was gold dupes

and prices went up real fast

[grizzled mountain]

Not if they keep supply artificially low, or more gold is being duped relative to items.

[subtle falcon]

cuz there is no way people/bots farm gold at the regular rates while the gold on g2g is as cheap as it is...

[teal willow]

i don't see casuals lasting in MG

i hope they buff CoF a little for cycle 2 im going that

[grizzled mountain]

If you have 1-2 who know an item dupe, and 50 who know a gold dupe, you're going to see hyperinflation.

[tropic patio]

mg is only worth playing during the first week

[teal willow]

Like what if i take a month break and come back to the game as MG, rares 500million lol

[subtle falcon]

CoF is already way more enjoyable to play than MG... if only CoF was more alt-friendly somehow. With MG you can just buy good-enough gear for dirt cheap for your alts, but for CoF you gotta farm it, or pre-farm it, every time

[teal willow]

def going CoF next time

[grizzled mountain]

I've seen multiple things listed (which seem reasonable) at over 1b already

[teal willow]

yeah i select my character builds based off whats cheaper at this point

kinda sad but it is what it is

[grizzled mountain]

I'm rank 10 in both. CoF is trash compared to MG post nerf of keys.

[subtle falcon]

tie it with items never expirign when you post them... there is no reason to post at current prices. Everything that drops and I deem good enough I just post at 500k minimum, and it sells a few days later. The most random crap items ever

[teal willow]

are dupers being banned at least?

or is it untrackable

[teal willow]

how do you afford stuff in MG?

op build high corruption farm?

[subtle falcon]

I mean... you still farm high corruption and can farm like 50m/day, it's not unreasonable

only the truly min-max gear is giga expensive

[teal willow]

what is high corruption?

[grizzled mountain]

I sell tons of stuff and have over 400 hours already 😂

[subtle falcon]

at least 600?

[teal willow]

how much gold do i need to start off to get to that corruption

[subtle falcon]

very little

[teal willow]

im only at 200 at the moment i didn't have time to play

[subtle falcon]

with the right build

[teal willow]

im a paldin

not playing for a week, logging in and everything being unbuyable felt bad lol

[subtle falcon]

pinchingloaf is releasing his smite-holy hands paladin build on sunday, you can follow it

he pushed 1000 corruption with it

very very cheap to build

[split wave]

None, it's just build-dependent

[tropic patio]

i don't like doomposting but considering that they don't even have a report function through chat, its safe to assume that they weren't prepared for anything like this. Which includes easily detecting exploits

[teal willow]

im already using a smite hh but the gear i looked at was too high on ah

[subtle falcon]

that build requires very little gear to push to 600

[tropic patio]

Though to be fair even diablo 4 (i know, d4 bad) which has millions in budget still had some comically bad blunders

[subtle falcon]

like T7 healing effectiveness is dirt cheap

like 100k 😄

[teal willow]

but don't i need attunement too on the item

[subtle falcon]

no

at least not in the way a caster wants intellect on everything

I recommend tuning in to his twitch, he usually starts streaming in 2h. He reads every single question and answers it properly

the only streamer I watch tbh, very educational

he plays this game since beta, for years, and goes for niche builds and pushes them to 1k corruption, which is perfect for MG cuz they are giga cheap to setup

let me grab the build link, sec

[teal willow]

the build im currently using i can hit 30k ward if there is enough stuff to hit

and it lets me keep casting

how high corruption can that go

[subtle falcon]

here is a VOD of him streaming it the last day, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE7nGDzEqYc, not sure if I can get the build link, cuz I'm at work atm 😄

[subtle falcon]

this build is similar ward, but very high single target dps

AOE is kinda meh, definitely not a speed farming build, but it breezes through bosses

like you can face tank jura etc

[teal willow]

ahh i use lightning version its pretty good i can try fire too. i have not tried pushing because i skipped playing a week then logged in and saw prices and just kinda stopped logging in 😄

[still tangle]

is hakar phoenix + eyee of reeen better than phoenix+shield? on a HH+rive paladin

[teal willow]

i have mostly exalted gear, except Devotion lp0

and stormcarved lp0

[subtle falcon]

I pushed it to like 600 corruption but stopped cuz it wasn't to my taste - I like fast clearing chars, so now I'm back to my runemaster 🙂

[teal willow]

i need devotion lp2-3 and peak of mountain lp2-3 probably expensive.

[subtle falcon]

https://youtu.be/hE7nGDzEqYc?t=4149 here you can see him doing heorot at like 900 corruption

[subtle falcon]

no, no you don't

not for 1k corruption

[teal willow]

oh i can just use lp0?

or lp1

[hallow berry]

https://imgur.com/ZxTBvOh What do I do with this thing

[teal willow]

ill try craft some lp1s of those today

[subtle falcon]

I much rather prefer to have 1 LP that is high/max rolled and the affix that scales the most with my build, than 2-3 LP that are trash rolled

[sleek crypt]

anyone buy Ucenui's Sphere +3 leg?

[teal willow]

ill put mana or attunement, or try, on the lp1 mountain

[subtle falcon]

his build is not using mountain but prismatic gaze

just go to his stream and ask questions when he is online. A lot of reasoning for the builds/affixes are not obvious on first glance

I suspect the items for that build will become very expensive after Sunday when he releases the official build 😂

his mad lightning runemaster is/was very popular

[teal willow]

i was a primalist at first but gave up on that

paladin feels way stronger

[subtle falcon]

right now he is making a shaman that is going for 1000 corruption too

some niche interactions again

[teal willow]

oh wow

[subtle falcon]

literally started on that char like 2 days ago 😄

[subtle falcon]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/Av9y7XNo ah someone in his disc linked me the pala build

[simple knoll]

Paladin, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0

Class:

Sentinel (20) / Void Knight (11) / Paladin (82)

General:

▸ Health: 1,514, Regen: 24/s
▸ Mana: 514, Regen: 8/s
▸ Ward Retention: 71%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 8 Str / 1 Dex / 14 Int / 28 Att / 2 Vit
▸ Resistances: 146% / 96% / 101% / 94% / 77% / 93% / 78%
▸ EHP: 4,095 / 4,095 / 4,095 / 6,028 / 3,788 / 3,788 / 3,788

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 51%, Threshold: 303
▸ Armor Mitigation: 66% (5,530)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 40%

Damage Types:

▸ Fire, Void / Spell

Buffs:

▸ Ambition (20/20), Immolator's Oblation (1/40), Divine Essence (3/3), Holy Aura (Passive)

Used skills:

• Healing Hands (23)
• Smite (23)
• Holy Aura (20)
• Volatile Reversal (20)
• Sigils Of Hope (20)

Used unique items:

• Devotion
• Prismatic Gaze
• Immolator's Oblation
• Yulia's Path
• Soulfire
• Throne of Ambition

[grizzled mountain]

That's def not that cheap lol

LP1 prismatic gaze is getting pricey

[subtle falcon]

rings are healing effectiveness. Gaze, Devotion, and belt are all 1 LP, all of it is very reasonable

[grizzled mountain]

You made it sound like it was basically just a bunch of rares and exalteds 😂

[subtle falcon]

T7 multicrit ring can be 50m

T7 healing effectivneess ring is like 100k 😂

[teal willow]

well the build im already running i have 20-30k ward and can probably get prett high corruption if i start to push

[subtle falcon]

it's about the dmg too. His smites are hitting for up to 40k dmg

[teal willow]

i only need to change a few items if i go fire version

[subtle falcon]

the boss dmg is very high, comapred to what the build costs to put together imo

[subtle falcon]

his build planner doesn't even use a single T7, cuz he is playing CoF. With MG you can use a bunch of T7s to make it much stronger, and T7 healing is dirt cheap

[grizzled mountain]

True. I just rolled a runemaster today and have lp 1s and 2s for it, with proper rolls/affixes already and only spent like 6-8m 😂

[subtle falcon]

the head and the belt are also pretty much optional, you run head for the crit chance for the most part, and belt for increased dmg

[teal willow]

you got a link to his shaman build?

[subtle falcon]

you can 100% clear to 500 corruption without the two too

but it will just take longer

smites will be hitting for 20k instead of 40k high-end

[teal willow]

can you use peak instead of gaze for the crit?

[subtle falcon]

lemme ask, sec. I know he used a diff build for lvling and diff for the endgame. I'm not 100% sure whether the endgame build is finalised yet

[subtle falcon]

it's the shards as well that matter, at the endgame, but yeah it depends what your goal is

I'm sure peak woudl be fine

you fire off smites fast; and healing hands fire off shards

shards apply ailments

armor shred etc

[teal willow]

the lp1 is 5 million lowest, of gaze

damn lol

[subtle falcon]

that's rough 😄 was like 1m when I built it like 5 days ago

[teal willow]

i should try farming those to sell

[tiny spire]

what is going on? i was finally saving 100m for exsanguinous lp3 to find out the price is around 500m now... i dont even have the chance to farm gold as fast as the prices are rising!

[split wave]

To farm up gold that high, you are really just getting 99% of it from selling

[tiny spire]

i have no clue what to do

[subtle falcon]

sell stuff that drops

[split wave]

In short, you need to learn the market to do well in it - keep in mind too that 3LP anything is pretty much completely never expected for you to have

[tiny spire]

i am

[quiet oxide]

RAXX JUST MAKE VIDEO ABOUT EXPLODE DAGGER

FARM EXPLODE DAGGER NOW

[subtle falcon]

also, why bother with LP3? it's just such a min-max idk, that one suffix doesn't affect you unless trying to push 2k corruptino or something idk

[split wave]

Like, 1 LP exsang pre-MG/CF was the most you would ever reasonably dream for

[quiet oxide]

3lp makes getting double prefix easier, your chance of getting double prefix you want at 2lp is 1/6, so you need 6 copies of 2lp on average

[subtle falcon]

I'd rahter have a 2LP with high/max rolled implicits/affixes than 3LP with crap rolled ones

[subtle falcon]

usually 6 copies of 2LP are always cheaper than 1 copy of 3LP though? that goes for any item

[quiet oxide]

yeah pretty much

[subtle falcon]

not to mention that 3LP is probably not gonna be good rolled, and you still dont' have a 100% chance

[quiet oxide]

i do like me a good high roll random resist on there because it's 3lp and i have the 2 prefix i wanted

having just more mods to fill out requirements and go crazy with damage is great

in this economy though you're paying out the ass for any 3lp

[subtle falcon]

sure, but again, that only matters if you really min-max endgame, like go nuts to wall and try to push 2k 3k corruption

not 500 or 1000

[quiet oxide]

yeah the economy is milking the endgame pushers dry

a red ring is 80m, how is it possible

[subtle falcon]

I mean... yeah and no. People farming 2k corruption and tryign to push higher are probably making 500m a day from drops

[subtle falcon]

I played for like 200 hours and never saw one yet

[quiet oxide]

mostly from rune of ascendance

1 in 587

[subtle falcon]

fair, I should spam my ascendances on it tbh

[quiet oxide]

nothing to spam it on anyway, every unique is cheap

[subtle falcon]

I wonder what is the most profitable piece to spam ascendances on

[split wave]

Red ring is the rarest item in game, tbf (ignoring LP)

[quiet oxide]

only other 0 lp unique that is that expensive is jungle queen for 2m

red ring seems to be in another league

every build is suggesting it

[split wave]

Probably ring, helm, or amulet? I think all have multiple rare/popular uniques

[subtle falcon]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/B7G9lazB someone in his disc linked now

[simple knoll]

Shaman, Level 100

Game Cycle / Version:

Release / 1.0.1

Class:

Primalist (25) / Beastmaster (20) / Shaman (68)

General:

▸ Health: 2,567, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 265, Regen: 20/s
▸ Ward Retention: 533%, Regen: 43/s
▸ Attributes: 11 Str / 1 Dex / 13 Int / 52 Att / 1 Vit
▸ Resistances: 111% / 403% / 70% / 92% / 98% / 153% / 95%
▸ EHP: 3,487 / 3,487 / 3,306 / 3,598 / 3,487 / 3,487 / 3,487

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 616
▸ Armor Mitigation: 10% (236)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 93%

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Lightning, Physical / Melee, Spell, DoT

Minion Damage Types:

▸ Cold / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Gathering Storm (20)
• Warcry (23)
• Maelstrom (20)
• Tornado (20)
• Fury Leap (20)

Used unique items:

• Exsanguinous
• Snowblind
• Frostbite Shackles
• Snowdrift
• Frozen Ire
• Throne of Ambition

[quiet oxide]

just ring

there's only 2 uniques in the game that's actually expensive at 0 lp

[subtle falcon]

he should be streaming it today at pretty high corruption. I think he managed to get frostbite shackles yday

[subtle falcon]

what are those? ring and?

omnis is dirt cheap 0lp

[quiet oxide]

jungle queen

[subtle falcon]

oh

[quiet oxide]

yeah it's the belt that gives you 16 potion slot

[split wave]

Yeah, but those are much rarer at 0 LP than most uniques at 1-2 LP, maybe even 3

so you'd want to look for highest average return per rune

and I'm not going to bother doing the math lol

[quiet oxide]

i already did, it's ring, just do that

[subtle falcon]

what is even the idea with it? you spam potions for the experimental gains? like gain mana for high mana builds and whatnot?

[quiet oxide]

reduce traversal cooldown per potion use, and balista ( from rogue) has this passive where when it dies it spawn a potion

[subtle falcon]

I see

[tiny spire]

i do not know but MG seems rigged to me

[quiet oxide]

so your shift cooldown is 1 second or less, and shift has a node that say " give you a crap ton of dodge 1 sec after shifting"

[subtle falcon]

the only bad thing about MG is the bazaar UI, it's so tragically bad

with CoF you farm 100k favor, and spend 5 mins on picking prophecies

with MG you farm 100k favor, a bunch of items drop, and spend 30 mins listing them

not to mention the best way to get T7 affixes is refreshing the market every 3 mins and sniping whoever post it for 50k instead of 3m

imo CoF is superior in every way except making alts... MG is so so so alt-friendly

you can buy giga good items for like 50k or 100k that would take you ages to farm on CoF, and just forge w/e you need onto them

[quiet oxide]

the current value of a rune of ascendance is 136k gold if you use it on ring

on average anyway, you might slam 600 and get nothing

[subtle falcon]

yeah ofc

are there any other rings that are world drops, and sell decently well with 1 LP?

[quiet oxide]

high roll ocearon

only important roll is the freeze rate per chill stack

[subtle falcon]

oh that looks like a cool ring

[quiet oxide]

you can also get an erased ring 1:12 rune

if it's 17 weaver+ you can sell it

[subtle falcon]

yep, that's it then I guess

I mean, you can sell even lower than 17

I post these ww uniques all the time

even the shittiest sell for 500k+

idk why

idk how ppl use the UI, they probably dont' sort by cheapest, or even look at rolls

g2g -> buy gold -> go market -> buy item 😂

[karmic sparrow]

haven't played for a week and now everything cost x5-x10 of what it was lol

[subtle falcon]

oh, it needs rolls? what's a roll 👀

[teal willow]

rofl same

1 billion % going COF next patch

[quiet oxide]

welcome back, your 0lp unique is costing 68 stash tabs

[subtle falcon]

that's why you post at 5x-10x prices when selling, so when you come home a week later, everything is sold 💀

[karmic sparrow]

bought 2 red rings both at 5 m, now they start at 65m lmao

[teal willow]

i guess ill just get to 500 ish corruption in whatever trash i can self find, and go play Dragons Dogma 2

[quiet oxide]

crap roll btw, if it has +5 all stats it's 80m

[karmic sparrow]

nope, 5 to all stats

[quiet oxide]

prob wont be there for long

[subtle falcon]

what's the most chill char to farm ~600-1000 corruption as? 🤔

[karmic sparrow]

al rings below 80 mil are less than 1 hour long

[subtle falcon]

thinking about trying a necromancer, seems chill 😄

[karmic sparrow]

so they dissapear fast

[jagged hedge]

Hey guys, does anybody know if there is some limit to the quantity of items you can list to sell in BAZAAR ?

[subtle falcon]

there is no limit, and they don't expire

it's not very well designed

[teal willow]

no limit it seems i have 100s of trash items in there that won tsell 😄

[jagged hedge]

tyvm

[subtle falcon]

so you can post at 10x the price and inflation will eventually catch up and it will sell

[jagged hedge]

lol

[karmic sparrow]

inflation means LA dungeon completely failed at its job as gold sink

[jagged hedge]

LA dungeon is not a good gold sink IMHO

[subtle falcon]

tbh the current inflation is a clear sign there are methods that exploit/hack some gold-generation methods

[jagged hedge]

Glyphs of Despair you get easily if you are in CoF. So it is not desirable in LA dungeon.

[subtle falcon]

you always can check gold selling sites in any game, and if it's not making like at least $3/hr at the end-game build, it's clearly there is something fishy going on

cuz even the most third world countries won't farm for $3/hr 😄

[karmic sparrow]

ofc they would

[subtle falcon]

nah, not at the scale it needs

[karmic sparrow]

3$ per hour is more than 50% on worlds population makes

probably closer to 70%

[jagged hedge]

And you are forgeting that they need to pay for the game to advertise inside the game.

[quiet oxide]

yeah if you live in 3rd world 3$ an hour is insane

[subtle falcon]

ok, but right now you make like 10m/hr in 3k corruption, and that equals to $1 😂

[quiet oxide]

your dinner for 4 people costs 2$

[subtle falcon]

it's way way under the limit where it's farmed by humans

[jagged hedge]

And if they lose the account because of being banned, they need to buy another account.

[subtle falcon]

and I doubt bots farm it either

it must be exploited

[subtle falcon]

in wow I had a bunch of people sell me stuff where they farm it legit (black lotuses on hardcore wow...), and they say it nets them roughly $7/hr. Once it falls to $5 they look at other farms/games to do, cuz it's just not worth.

[teal willow]

is the duping fixed now at least?

or will prices continue to go up insane

[subtle falcon]

duping items isn't the thing that causes inflation

duping items = items go cheaper

[karmic sparrow]

they will continue to go up infinitely because there is not a single good gold sink in the game rn

[subtle falcon]

unless they dupe item -> sell to vendor -> sell gold 😂

[karmic sparrow]

the gold is getting farmed and never leaves the economy

[quiet oxide]

highest item possible to sell to vendor is 2000 gold

[subtle falcon]

no point putting in gold sinks when there are ppl having literally trillions of gold

[subtle falcon]

if you can dupe ad-infinitum, that means billions a day

[teal willow]

alright ill try to push and farm on my paladin. if i can't make more than the rate of inflation per day i'll just go play something else for now

[quiet oxide]

most of the time dupes are not Ctrl+c ctrl p, it's a method that takes time

[livid aspen]

this has been my strategy yes

[quiet oxide]

if you dupe 2000 gold every minute you're not making alot

i know a dupe back in the day in rotmg where you have a method to disconect a server

then you can bring back like 8 copies of an item

[subtle falcon]

like imagine dropping the 2k item from echo reward, you pick them up, but not really, till inventory fills up, then you vendor it all, and repeat. Can make like 1b per hour...

it's definitely a thing, because my mate has bad internet and experiences packet loss at times (ie game freezes for 5 seconds), and he often double-picks items, and forges T1-T5 for 0 cost 😂 . So imagine what you can do if you actually try to exploit these things

[livid aspen]

the dupe that I found involved desyncing with the server while receiving a quest reward

[karmic sparrow]

if putting 80 million into lightless arbor vault doesn't give you more loot than one lp0 red ring of atlaria there is something massive wrong with loot balance

[subtle falcon]

yep

[quiet oxide]

red ring is just a thing of its own, too many people using it atm

[subtle falcon]

like he got 2x Averice gloves at lv 10 and was like wtf? is that supposed to happen 😄

[quiet oxide]

literally every build last phase is double red ring

[subtle falcon]

picked one pair, then lag stopped, and picked second pair from the ground

[karmic sparrow]

but look at other stuff, from lp2 apogee to lp3 exsang

all are x5 from where they were

a week ago

[quiet oxide]

that dupe was released quickly because itwas worthless

only 500 gold per dupe

[quiet oxide]

oh yeah pogee sword is 60m atm for 2lp

[teal willow]

oh god

[quiet oxide]

anything ballista, explode dagger and runemaster is in another league

and low life

[subtle falcon]

but he picks up items from the ground a few times a day when we play duo where he straight up double-picks, cuz he lags/packet loss

[teal willow]

whats the best era to farm for good gold items

[quiet oxide]

any falcon

[quiet oxide]

do not look for era, look for builds, any ballista, explode dagger , rune master item is worth billions

[teal willow]

Which of the zones drop those most

[quiet oxide]

i sold this thing yesterday for 84 million

nvm it's 72m but still it's a good example

[teal willow]

what corruption level you farm

[quiet oxide]

https://imgur.com/a/8ufjG9n

+4 ballista, insane prices

[teal willow]

can that drop as paladin?

[quiet oxide]

i'm at 760

[subtle falcon]

+4 frost claw is also nuts

[quiet oxide]

no, paladin bad

[teal willow]

alright gonna just go play something else lol

[subtle falcon]

paladins can push 1000 relatively easily 😐

it just takes longer

[quiet oxide]

don't think any pally class is popping off atm

[subtle falcon]

they are slow af 😭

[quiet oxide]

you gotta follow the money

the trend is explosive dagger atm

any rich boy will pay out the ass for an explode build

[teal willow]

so what should i reroll, falconer? if i decide to even stick around

[ember dew]

bazaar lag?

[karmic sparrow]

i sold lp4 xithara for 10m and a week later they start at 80m

[errant otter]

just play what you want....

[teal willow]

im broke, and inflation is insanity atm

[subtle falcon]

the sad thing is that it's not even that bad... ppl are used to RMT so much in all the other games, that they see this as a win-win when they can get their bis build together for $200 or w/e (2 billion)

[errant otter]

then go CoF we embrace the brokeness

[teal willow]

all my gear currently has the merchant tag lol

[ember dew]

you have to get a decent farming character + many 1lp uniques are 0 gold

in order to take advantage of the inflation you have to get loot

[errant otter]

rip, you can also just target farm some uniques that sell for a decent amount

[quiet oxide]

yeah like a rogue

[ember dew]

ive made over 25m in the last few days

[subtle falcon]

why not push the paladin to higher corruption? the difference ebtween farming 200 and 600 corruption is massive for dropping/farming gear to sell on MG

[karmic sparrow]

surprisingly lp3 ladle didn't go much in price, is it because of warlock nerfs?

[teal willow]

like twisted heart?

[ember dew]

its because spoon looks dumb asf and kills the power fantasy

[quiet oxide]

ladle itself got nerfed so other stuff is competitive with it

wait the spoon or the shovel ?

[subtle falcon]

no, because they are abundant. Every exiled mage has the same chance to drop it iirc, no matter the corruption

[quiet oxide]

cause the shovel was nerfed

[errant otter]

I play CoF, so I don't know what is selling like hot cake now, maybe see what most people are playing/selling/buying

[quiet oxide]

twisted heart is 50k

[subtle falcon]

spoon got nerfed too iirc. It only gives SP from up to 8 ailments, but it's still insane for cast speed builds

[quiet oxide]

first day it was 700k

i farmed 20 of it, good times

shackles were also 900k ea

then it tanked to 100k

then peak was massive money

2lp 300k , 0 lp 250k, 50% drop rate

3lp 3 million

[teal willow]

so wha tshould I farm now

[quiet oxide]

the core body 900k

[quiet oxide]

blood and death timeline, look for unique body and exalted relic

[karmic sparrow]

i'm a bit worried for poe2 now since they also go from usable items to gold

how will they handle inflation

[teal willow]

will poe2 have auction house?

[quiet oxide]

no they just add gold in so you can respec with it

gold is used as a fee to trade and respec

not sure if it's tradeable

they might make it untradeable so people have to kill monster to trade

like favor in LE

prob don't want hideout warriors making all the money and shifting the economy

[teal willow]

how long is a cycle?

[quiet oxide]

according to dev it's 4-5 months, but uncertain

they call it a guesstimate, so maybe that

[karmic sparrow]

new one will probably start a few weeks before poe2 beta

so they don't overlap

don't think they want to compete with that, at least streamers will all go for the beta

[wheat scarab]

Thought it was 80-90 days

[karmic sparrow]

i wonder how the prices will look like at the end of a cycle

will people actually just trade in billions

[wheat scarab]

Ya wiki says 3 months

[quiet oxide]

it's from the FAQ, they said we don't know, but guesstimate is 4-5 months

[teal willow]

imagine someone wh ojoins the game last few weeks and accidentally clicks MG lol

[quiet oxide]

it's actually a great experience, new people are not looking at 3lp items

every unique is cheap

[teal willow]

oh im having a rough time

[karmic sparrow]

at the very least they are going to buy all lp1's for 0 gold

[teal willow]

i need prismatic helmet

[karmic sparrow]

but i swear mg9-10 is the most useless placebo ever

[quiet oxide]

mg 10 is for weaver item trading mostly

[karmic sparrow]

there are no good legendaries on the marker and won't be probably

[teal willow]

so what if that new player wants to advance tho like do higher and wear decent items. or me

like im stuck atm

[quiet oxide]

farm hot builds

if you get a relic with 4 ballista you make 40m

2lp jhelkor 2m

very common dagger

[teal willow]

okay ill try to farm that

[karmic sparrow]

the only things that actually go down in price are idols

except perfect rolls

[quiet oxide]

also make sure to look at hot buids and what exalted mod they use

exalted dagger with increased lightning damage tier 6 or 7 could be decent money

[teal willow]

was ladle nerfed recently? or just for 1.0

[subtle falcon]

https://i.imgur.com/ydxS03a.png who bought this 😭 it's so bad... the "all attributes" can go up to 6 etc

for reference sake, you can buy 16/16/12/5 on bazaar right now for 2m

[stark glacier]

16/16/12/5 with 19 Weaver's?

[lofty elbow]

Those gloves are worth that much? Nice picked up a few yesterday with decent WW

[subtle falcon]

they aren't, there are a bunch that are better listed at 1-2m

but that's what I'm saying... just post at 5x prices and either idiots buy, or inflation will catch up in 1-5 days 😄

[lofty elbow]

1-2m still pretty good 😊

[obtuse egret]

Anything I can do with my favor before switching factions? I really don't want to throw it away.

[quiet oxide]

Gamble belt at vendor

or quiver

[obtuse egret]

I'm guessing those will not be faction bound?

[quiet oxide]

well damn

Gamble DAGGER and sell it

exalted might go for alot

especially exalted increased lightning damage

or melee lightning daamge

[thin trout]

honestly curious: How are certain affixes not searchable on bazaar after 3 separate patches since listed known issue... and how does that even happen from a dev perspective?

[lofty elbow]

yeah why you still can't search for shred armor is baffling

if you unlist an item, do you have to spend the amount of gold you listed it for?

[subtle falcon]

when you use rune of ascending on an item bought on MG market, does the resulting unique become MG-bound?

[cyan widget]

baazar down?

[stray olive]

wtb gear

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/golem-necromancer-guide

[split wave]

No, but the favor you spent to list it is not refunded

[split wave]

Yes

[lofty elbow]

ok thats fine. thanks for the answer!

[lofty elbow]

https://imgur.com/a/cKZScfn u weren't kidding huh

[subtle falcon]

yeah idk 😄

I'd go higher cuz of +6 to all attributes

and +16%

[lofty elbow]

yeah just wanted a quick sale lol couldnt be asked to keep scrolling to see the prices

[manic zephyr]

anyone know why pretty much everything is free on merchant?

got like 7 gear sets free XD

[pearl iris]

I agree until they get a better way to sort though things where you can start looking more specifically. Item sale discovery will be on how much an individual wants to spend searching through the "results". This applies to listing items as well. I would like to be able to browse back to my previous search results after i go and leave my results to check what stats are on the item im trying to sell in comparison with what is selling on the ah. Its draining to reinput all the affixes back in the filter system.

[lofty elbow]

yeah its annoying u go into ur stall and then boom have to re filter lol. Can't search shred armor, can't search individual affix at t6 and others at t5 etc., can't filter by specific rolls of affixes, can't filter by specific rolls of uniques etc.

[digital nexus]

just found 3lp jelkhors, do i sell it or slam? i feel like i sell it and just buy 2x 2lp

[tiny spire]

sold one yday for 87kk

[digital nexus]

isnt 3lp like a couple of millions

[tiny spire]

no???

[digital nexus]

80 mil for 3lp is cheapest

[tiny spire]

check the rolls too

[digital nexus]

why would that matter, its worth at least 80 million

[tiny spire]

the cheap ones might have bad rolls

[stark glacier]

I think there might be a miscommunication

[digital nexus]

yea

[stark glacier]

87kk = 87m

[digital nexus]

i knew "k" but didnt know "kk" xD

https://imgur.com/ZmwI9E5

the -mana is the important one right?

[twin hollow]

wow bots are crazy, I bought 2lp heart for 20m yesterday, today I want to buy another one and cheapst one 90m+ lol

stop buying gold guys

[tiny spire]

the detonating arrow is the important thing here

good thing this does not have a roll

[digital nexus]

yea

im gonna post it for 110m

[quiet oxide]

wow -5 mana cost

that's massive

you need 8 on both, having 5 in one is great

[digital nexus]

idk but i have no faith that it sells tbh

could be wrong tho

[quiet oxide]

when you get into the 100m+, you're dealing with rich people

so if you have good rolls that solves their problem, money matters very little

i say post it and wait the entire weekend

weekend has massive activity

[digital nexus]

yea i did

lets see

[upbeat walrus]

Hey been playing CoF so far and just swapped one of my characters to MG.

Prices for anything look very inflated. Is a 3LP Hollow finger really going for millions?

I have a 3lp sierpin's and those are all listed for millions as well, even though a search of this discord mentions that the item is bugged.

Any way to see historical sale values? I'd rather not list stuff and have it rot and waste points (if that's a thing).

[lofty elbow]

sell it 3lp is like 50m+ at least

[hard idol]

Goddamn gold inflation is insane now

[teal willow]

uhh what i sold t7 throw dmg ring for 16mill the other stats were dumpster

economy is cooked 😄

[lofty elbow]

its nice haha i list things 10-20% under similar items and sells in less than 5 mins for most things

[quasi oriole]

weird its almost like there is a real market in the game and gold sellers make the market inflated....

[hasty shadow]

Is there anyway to search by an idol, aside from selecting the affixes one by one and is there to set up the proper numbers for each affix?

[strange musk]

any ideas on how much a 4LP Tempest Maw 1H axe would cost?

[quiet oxide]

jesus christ https://imgur.com/a/9VhFJVQ

horribly rolled but still

[grizzled mountain]

If you hold it for a few days, it'll be worth trillions

[quiet oxide]

190m atm

[hard idol]

Or maybe it's the gold duping for free

[sour gazelle]

I thought most of it was patched tbh

[hard idol]

Damage is done, gold circulates

[sour gazelle]

Yeah thats true i guess

[hard idol]

It's what inflation means

[sour gazelle]

oh well next cycle resets it so hopefully no duping there but there probably will be

[mellow walrus]

Can anyone help me reach merchant's guild level 8 faster please? Looking to join 400-500 corruption runs to boost progress
(ik its a bit off topic but im getting no responses in lfg)

[humble burrow]

is there smth like best timeline for merchants guild where the drops are like better for selling?

[torpid bolt]

9%hp 20 ward retention perf acolyte idol have any price rang?

[rose tree]

Legendary or just unique? I have the necklace and twist as unique with legendary potential

[sudden ermine]

Why are so many items on the bazaar available for 0 gold?

[daring lake]

ok, what item do I need to grind for just to sell so I can afford basic items for my build inflation a pain. That red ring worth it?

[daring lake]

favor farming

[digital nexus]

I think the timeline Blood, Frost and Death was good bc of Echo Reward Body armor, frostbite shackles, last step of living from the boss and the Belt from orobyss

other timeline would probably be Reign of Dragons for the Jelkhor dagger thats rlly expensive now (3lp is 80m+) and twisted heart

other than that +3/4 to frostclaw are also really good

but cant really target farm that

[lofty elbow]

but why u earn favor when u list not when it sells

[daring lake]

you earn rep by spending and gaining favor, when you list an item you spend favor, and if its bought you get that favor back, quadrupling the rep gain and allowing you to spend that favor again

[tight ocean]

Can anyone let me know what 2LP undisputeds are going for?

[lofty elbow]

ohhh didnt know u get the favor back im already at rank 10 so never really paid attention lol got to rank 10 all through gambling lmao

[civic sparrow]

any good discord for merchants guild ?

[teal sable]

That's wrong. You don't get more favor or anything back if someone buys it. Selling for 0 gold is always bad for the seller. There are no exceptions.

[daring lake]

really? could've sworn you got favor back

[lofty elbow]

this was what i thought as well

[daring lake]

guess I've been trippin the whole time, I only used MG like twice before going to COF then back again

[teal sable]

Nah sometimes it takes time to update properly but it's just a listing fee basically.

[ashen oak]

Hey hey. I’m currently in CoF but was thinking about switching to MG. Can you buy LP2-4 uniques pretty easily ?

[small jay]

Dont do it bro...

You will regret it

Trading in a game like PoE makes sense cos of how rich in content it is.. last epoch doesnt have enough meat for trading and still allow you to have a long cycle. Trust me

[ashen oak]

Hmm. Ok. Thanks for the info

[small jay]

Others will disagree of course which is fine.. but yeh. I avoided trade for a reason and im a BIG trade guy

[split wave]

And to answer the question... it depends. lol sorry

The most rare uniques you'll struggle real hard to get any LP on at all, but leveling uniques you might be able to get 3-4 LP decently easy

[flint vault]

I'm glad you know we would disagree with this...

[split oasis]

Anyone trad or sell +3/+4 pot "Apathys Max" by chance ?

[upper mist]

inflation is crazy haha, 4 days ago a 3LP exsan was selling for 85kk, now 300

[rose light]

Are there other methods for selling besides the merchant guild?

[umbral juniper]

any chance i can get a price check on this staff?
https://i.postimg.cc/GmFjVcyb/image.png

[lime crag]

Jesus ward trail 3 lp was 600k and is now 25 mil??? its been like 11 hours

[cosmic compass]

fastest way to level MG rep?

[frigid wyvern]

Can I get a price check for https://imgur.com/a/ZfFTa0T

[hardy mulch]

Why don't you release skins for one-handed weapons? For example, one-handed axes, one-handed swords

[fiery tartan]

0 idea, but if it's low loot rate gonna sell for a lot anyways

Probably no one having enough golds to buy it, all T4 are gonna sell for a sht ton

[frigid wyvern]

apparently the drop chance is 0.017% which isn't as rare as other items with LP4

LP3 on market is selling for 10k gold a lot

[round jungle]

holy shii 100 mil Gold cost 36€........ merchant guild is fxxxxing useless when you don't buy gold...

[small jay]

Slowly but aurely finding all my 2LP uniques as CoF. Been a fun grind

[round jungle]

i switched to Merchant because it was better, but rn it's getting worse and worse..

i need a lot of LP4 Items, but because of these Gold sellers all LP4 items are constantly sold out

[small jay]

Tbh. Lp4's are mega luxury and meant to be rare. "Needing" them is a strong way to put it

[round jungle]

i need them, they are not that rare in the Merchant guild

[round jungle]

there were like 7 LP4 daggers that cost like 200mil

[small jay]

I know but by design they are super rare so ppl will naturally expect a lot for them. Before merchants was introduced youd be lucky to find 1

[grizzled mountain]

4LP daggers for 200m? Lucky! The 3 LP daggers I need are like 1b now.

[small jay]

Ppl finally realising that 3lp+ isnt raining from the sky.. supply and demand should even things out however

[silk rivet]

Gold doesnt dissapear, just moves arround, so the longuer the cycle is up, to hogher the prices will be, thats how it works when gold doesnt dissapear from the economy

[grizzled mountain]

Gold sink:
https://i.imgur.com/XBi3sbk.png

[round jungle]

dude, ik it's normal, but the Prices are way to high. 4 days ago 100 mil cost 91€, today it cost 36€.

[round jungle]

I believe you do not comprehend the issue here; if you truly believe that these prices are acceptable, you are simply stupid; 5 days ago, there were always LP4 daggers available at the shop; now, every pay whale buys them immediately because gold costs almost nothing.

[small jay]

My question is.. why should MG players get to have easy access to LP3 and 4 gear while cof accepts lp2 as a good result?

[round jungle]

where did i say that?

[small jay]

The whole trade aspect feels so cheap.. trading a currency that has a 100% drop rate and just going and buying what you want.. doesnt feel like meaningful trade. Its like a built in gold shop that has every item in the game available for you.

[grizzled mountain]

Non-RMT players aren't able to afford good 3 and 4 LP gear... I've yet to see a legit player have 1b, which buys 1 piece, and then you need another 500m-1b for the exhalt.

[round jungle]

I mentioned that Last Epoch had a major bot problem. Every time I refresh the market and see a LP4 item, it is promptly sold out, as if every player has 300 million on hand.

[small jay]

Yeh. Rmt was always going to be a thing when trade is this basic with 1 currency. Goldsellers wet dream this game is.

[round jungle]

yea, RMT is a thing, but even in Lost Ark there weren't a bot problem as big like Last Epoch, you can cheat with CHEAT ENGINE in multiplayer dude

[grizzled mountain]

Proof that it's not just client side visuals like every other game?

[round jungle]

not everything is cheatable with cheat engine but it's possible with some functions.

[small jay]

Im staying away from MG if i want to keep enjoying this game. Its complete cancer, sorry

[swift oriole]

I doubt you can cheat engine gold in LE for real lol

[round jungle]

you can even install mods, that got no AC and the most functions work. LE has a problem, and they won't fix it, MG was better like 2 weeks, but now it's almost unplayable

[round jungle]

you can't, learn to read

[grizzled mountain]

None of that matters if everything is validated server side... Cheat engine and no AC doesn't automatically mean you can do whatever you want. The game is server authoritative.

[round jungle]

it's so damn frustrating, i mean a 10% to 40% price increase everyday????

[grizzled mountain]

How are those at all related?

[round jungle]

yea, maybe you should read

google for Gold prices and look at them everyday, it get's cheaper and cheaper every day