💰┃merchants-guild

[civic merlin]

If a friend gifts me an item when we're partied, can I then sell that item with MG?

[tardy terrace]

Cant u switch to merchants, buy perfect exalted, and then back ? It seems u dont lose rnak only curency so it aint to big of a deal

[mossy grotto]

You cant fuse cof and mg items.

[quasi cave]

that's sad

[tame grotto]

Makes sense since fusing CoF and MG items would lead to requiring to represent both factions which is impossible to do

[mossy grotto]

Makes sense though, or else everyones just gonna be farming uniques from prophecies then coming over to buy perfect bases

[quasi cave]

That's correct, thank you for saving me hours of merchant farming. 🙂

[tame grotto]

The devs really put in the effort to make sure you can't "game the system"

[tiny spire]

Imagine making the absolute PERFECT unusable item

[mossy grotto]

I learned that the hard way, also if you get a drop and use a MG bought base, it becomes untradable

[quasi cave]

well double tag would've been pretty funny aswell xD

[tame grotto]

Funny until you forget about it and fuse your gg bases making them unusable

[remote orbit]

I think another thing I'd like to see is a way to see how long a listed item has been on the bazaar. Maybe like a filter for like 3 days, a week, etc.

[twin bolt]

Hi guys, is there a way to filter unique affixes in the bazaar?

[fading flume]

Trying to see all the overpriced items that won’t sell? 😂

[remote orbit]

MAYBE 😏, but nah just for me somewhat. So I can see how long an item I listed has been up and if I should adjust / price check, etc.

[tawny ferry]

you can sort your stall by newest and the time it has been listed for is shown beneath the price

[remote orbit]

Oh ty, I had to switch to thumbnail mode. I was in list style

[remote orbit]

If you click "more" > "search by name of unique or set" > and type in the search box the name of the unique. If that's what you mean anyway

[whole onyx]

is it possible to use circle of fortune item to upgrade trade legendary with LP ?

[mossy grotto]

N

[twin bolt]

I dont want to just search for a unique, but to filter the stats of a unique

[broken pike]

Is there really no way to filter down items in the bazaar more than just based on tiers/affix? Idols for example, there's only 1 tier so you end up with countless pages to go through to find one you might be willing to buy (especially when you're looking for perfect rolls)

[brazen pebble]

I am rich now: #👑┃item-showcase message

[winter quiver]

shout aht merchant guild homies thx for your upgrades

[arctic pebble]

the search/filter options in the bazaar are reallys crap

[broken pike]

Super crap. They wanted a barrier to entry for trading but this is to much IMO.

[finite latch]

is the bazaar down ? Infinite loading for me, ending in "bazaar having issues"

[tawny ferry]

not for me

[tiny spire]

same

[primal robin]

Bazaar doesn't load for me

[primal robin]

agree, I think UI for Bazaar should be reworked. First of all I can't see the item I want to sell once I open Bazaar. Also I think we need to be able to choose individual tiers of affixes on the item.

[misty summit]

u cant even search rolls for unique items. its like I'm searching vids on hub, at 20-30 pages

[true vessel]

how about a lootfilter for all those good exalted or affixes used to sell on market ?

[high relic]

where is the auction house

[granite lagoon]

Probaby has been asked before. But why isn't it possible to resell items? I think this would be very benefitial for the economy. Right now the bazar is completly broken with everyone just trhowing in items to get favor

[tawny ferry]

Just a design decision. Devs dont want people to play the auction house instead of the game like in PoE or early D3 were its more efficient to trade an flip than to farm yourself

[abstract sphinx]

some people could monopol the highest value items creating ineficiency for the market

[remote orbit]

Prevents botting too

[arctic pebble]

He is wright. So the Itembase in the Cycleeconomy dont rise like hell, but the better search/filter options for all players and perhaps a little recalibrate for the favour cost could help for a very better bazaar experience in this game.

[granite lagoon]

Yeah. I personally like the possiblity to focus on trading and flipping items. I'm just a bit disapointed since the way it is now there isn't really an economy. Most prices are completly random / free unless they are very build specifc/meta

Wouldn't there be other ways to prevent monopols. I love the economy stuff in poe for example and would love a similar experience here

[split wave]

The devs intentionally don't want that experience here. I think all we need is functionality improvements in the bazaar and it'll be good to go (i.e. easier price checking and more powerful search)
The faction rank up bonuses also don't feel good, but that's a different issue entirely imo

[granite lagoon]

Yeah I guess we'll have to see where this is going

[granite moss]

Yea just to buy a unqiue with legendary potential you have to be rank 10 witch is terrible.

[tawny ferry]

8

[granite lagoon]

Maybe some kind of mechanism to merge several uniques into a new one with a chance for it to be a better version with new affix values or even a chance for LP would burn though the 0 cost off-meta uniques and start giving them some value

[tawny ferry]

idk LP items feel ok at 8 because legendaries are kinda of a Bonus, Exalted items at 7 felt much worse

[misty summit]

it feels like devs dont want ppl to use bazaar at all instead... It's missing a lot of basic features and I spend way more time buying/price checking than playing the game

[granite lagoon]

Yeah its pretty frustrating atm

[broken pike]

They quite literally have said that they want a barrier to entry for trading. Currently a lot of us agree that the barrier is to high but some of the things are fine IMO. IMO we just need better search.

[tawny ferry]

I Agree but your talking about a different topic altogether here. Bad Search functionality and UI is not linked to Re Sellability

[granite lagoon]

Right now for most people selling is just about getting favor, I can't realisitacll get gold from anything I find and it wold be way to teidous to price check stuff. I would literally make more gold in that time running echoes

[broken pike]

How do you get favor from selling? It costs you favor to post, the same amount it sells for.

[spice jungle]

Gonna spend a couple hours listing stuff, i hope 100k favor will be enough lol

[granite lagoon]

Also buying is only interesting in the late 90+ levels

[tawny ferry]

I get more gold for 1 sold item than in 1 hour of farming 300 corruption monoliths. Idk about other people but the overwhelming amount of my gold is from trade

[granite lagoon]

I guess I'm just too lazy about price checking stuff. I think its a horrendous task right now. And often when I do, I find out that that there are 0 gold items available for even 3 lp uniques sometimes

[cinder talon]

Is there an online website for trading already (something like poe maybe)?

[broken pike]

That's an easy look up though. Set LP minimum and then sort by lowest to highest and select the unique you're looking for.

[granite lagoon]

So instead I just put in random numbers between 20k and 200k and throw things out that I dont need

[tawny ferry]

i dont pc stuff either. I pick up exalted items on good bases with decent mods, Idols and LP uniques. Most of the Idols and Uniques are fast to pc and the bulk of all other items I just throw in on mass for 100-500k based on gut feeling. Most dont sell, but enough do

[granite lagoon]

yeah some things sell like goody body armours with exhaulted incease health and stuff

[azure perch]

im at that point too where its not even worth list anything below 30-40k. Guess we just gotta wait for something GG to drop and sell for a couple mil

[granite lagoon]

Exactly, there is no point in price checking a 1 lp unique just to find out that it wont even sell for 5k. I list stuff just to get favor and for at least 20k because otherwise its just complelty pointless

But most things dont even sell

[tawny ferry]

doesnt matter if 90% dont sell still better than pcing every item or bothering with 50k items

[azure perch]

True maybe if they made it so buying things doesnt cost favor it could help the market becuase the buy to sell ratio is absolutely wack since nobody can flip anything

[granite lagoon]

Yeah if buying wouldn't cost any favor and you could destroy items by for example combing several uniques of the same kind for a chance of a better roll of it the market could recover

[gaunt atlas]

bazaar deadge?

[signal idol]

seems so

[tranquil orchid]

The price checking and searching are pain, should be able to "copy and paste" the item you are price checking in a sense and pin searches. Also shouldn't reset closing the menu, also need ways to search with specific tiers per affix.

[broken pike]

Bazaar is going through it's own loading issues now. Now that people are able to play and get to end game. Bazaar is being overloaded.

[primal robin]

yup

[misty summit]

yeah missing a lot of basic features, hopefully they'll update it soon

[tranquil orchid]

I absolutely love there is no item flipping. Its such a great idea and I wish more ARPG's had it

[broken pike]

Just be real, say POE when your say other ARPGs, lol. But I agree, it'll take some people time to adjust but it'll be beneficial in the long run IMO.

[granite lagoon]

I love the idea of it

[tawny ferry]

I dont mind no flipping so long as the game stays reasonably simple. When they introduce Chase Items with the same kinda rarity and Power as some other games that would become problematic tho

[tranquil orchid]

Price flipping allows for price manipulation. Most players don't realize but POE economy is controlled by a few elite groups and it really shapes the game in a negative way. Eliminating it in the way these devs have is ingenious. Its really satisfying knowing that something I sold is most likely going to get used (or bricked haha). @granite lagoon what other way do you stop the monopoly? Not being a jerk here but I have never seen it successfully implemented, and since its free market it always leads to the path of RMT being massive. @granite lagoon Honestly not a horrible idea, thank you for sharing seriously. Love haven't actual conversations about this topic ❤️

[granite lagoon]

But what is so bad about no flipping? I don't really get it. If you could prevent monopolies in other ways then flipping would be great. Right now not having flipping is really bad for the economy

[pastel quail]

Yo! Does Increased damage while wielding a bow counts as Bow Damage? The reson i am wondering is cuz the skill passive for Falconry have the passive "Trained To Hunt" that makes it so the skill scales with a portion of the character Bow Damage.

[tawny ferry]

PoE market manipulation gets relevant when you get into multiple 100div trades or get particullarly unlucky with a price fix, for 99% the market manipulation doesnt affect me as reasonably casual player

[granite lagoon]

Maybe a limit to how long how many items can be on an acount and stay unused until they become untradable

[tranquil orchid]

Funny thing is it does impact you Ezo, or people like you. I have had a group of people I have worked with cornering markets that impact old 10-50c trades and price inflating these items into div tier for the rest of the league. We create false scarcity and profit massively.

[tawny ferry]

yeah like i said either particaullary unlucky with a pricefix. More likely someone just made a popular build guide and perfectly normal demand went up

[tiny spire]

I hope there's gonna be an updated search function for GM in the next couple of patches. It's getting harder by the day to search for some generic idols

[granite lagoon]

If there would be no favor costs accociated with buying and there would be a way to use several lowrolls or niche uniques for a chance to upgrade them to something better, the market would immediatly drain from all the underpriced uniques

[frail zealot]

hey, can someone check 3 LP oceareon and reign of winter prices for me? i'm in CoF so i can't check them... i'm just wondering

[broken pike]

@frail zealot you can check, you're suppose to be able to easily/freely change between them without losing progress.

[rancid tusk]

The rate for 3 LP oceareon is .016% so I'd say it's gonna be pretty expensive 😂

[tranquil orchid]

Ocearon 3lp 0 listed. 2LP lowest is 2.9mil

[tiny spire]

2lp Winter is ~900k
3lp Winter is 18mil

[frail zealot]

oh really? i wasn't know about that @rancid tusk @tranquil orchid @tiny spire tysm for your help ❤️

[tiny spire]

Yeah, but you lose lenses and prophecies

[rancid tusk]

U keep ur rank yes but u lose all favor. So spend ur favor b4 swapping

[broken pike]

Ah, didn't know of the favor lost... that should probaly be altered so you still keep what you had within that faction

[signal idol]

main problem is that you can't equip any gear after swapping (well any from MG faction)

[frail zealot]

how long it takes to reach rank 8 in MG? i'm only rank 7 at CoF on lvl94

[tawny ferry]

lvl 97, spending favour. The grind should take equally long in both guilds

[rancid tusk]

When u switch u start at lvl 1 mg so a while 😂

[frail zealot]

but can i equip my current items if I swap from CoF to MG?

[tranquil orchid]

I don't th ink you can sell the stuff you found from CoF if you are trying to switch because of that btw

[tawny ferry]

no, at least no CoF items

[rancid tusk]

If ur gear has a cof tag in the bottom right u cant wear it

[frail zealot]

oh I got it now

[fading flume]

That goes for idols too when switching from CoF to MG

[signal idol]

i think CoF players may not have all items tagged, but MG players should have all of em tagged lol

[gaunt atlas]

mg is still down guys?

[tawny ferry]

MG only get the tag when you buy it, for both guilds normally dropped items have no tag

[signal idol]

also on legendaries when one of the pieces comes from market, but i meant most if not just straight up all your gear should come from trading if you're MG (well at 8 and above i guess)

[fading flume]

Getting to rank 7+ is really when MG starts shining

[tawny ferry]

in both guilds chances are the majority of your equipement comes from your guilds mechanic

[signal idol]

yeah but CoF should have a higher chance of using an items just picked up from the ground, MG you would be farming gold to buy and craft as many as it takes to make the one you want, never said they would have full of non tagged items, just CoF has way higher chance to be using non tagged items than MG (at higher ranks)

[tawny ferry]

I mean, I still wear 3 nice exalted items without tag on lvl 100 just by chance and because I dont have enough favour to buy stuff for every single euipement slot. But then i dont know how much normal gear CoF Players wear

doesnt really matter how much % of your gear is tagged anyway 😄

[signal idol]

yeah, your build is bricked anyways, especially if we talk about legendaries

[frail zealot]

i have 4 tagged equipped in CoF (except some idols)

[tawny ferry]

I probably overestimated how much loot CoF is spitting out

[signal idol]

but what level are you on CoF? should go up as you get more from it or we just overestimating CoF?

[frail zealot]

just got into rank 7, i have a bit strict loot filter btw I don't swap my gears a lot

[strong crater]

how do you even make it to the relevant stages on MG? The grind really is so insane I see myself quitting before reaching a meaningful rank... I don't see how that wouldn't apply to a majority of the player base. I'm about to reach the rank for exalted weapons but that's still a joke because my build uses a unique weapon

and then what, the next rank requires 2x the amount of reputation? Or is it more? This one already took like 100 echo runs

[signal idol]

definetly applies, it's fine for tryharders but a bit too harsh imho for "casual" even to not so much "casual" players imho

[granite lagoon]

As of right now I agree. The merchant guild starts being usable at lvl 8 which is maybe at around lvl 100

[signal idol]

at least lv 9 and 10 are kinda useless (aside from weawer's will items)

[strong crater]

yes that's insane

[tawny ferry]

idk, i just ran empowered monoliths because the game is fun anyways. Buying Exalted Items at lvl 94 felt rough but hitting high 90 levels is manageble for me personally. I agree the grind is too long particullarly for people that play only a few hours a day

[strong crater]

it's obviously really bad for a functioning market as well, it can only work when there is a sufficient amount of active people using the market and the more the better... probably a major reason why selling items is so difficult right now

[signal idol]

for whoever is still farming favour, push corruption and take xp nodes, exp gain affects favour gains... i feel like it should be stickied somewhere lol

[brittle flare]

Can anyone let me know the price of Orian's Eye 0LP on MG? I'm COF currently but got a rune of creation so wondering if it's worth duplicating OE to sell

[signal idol]

my 9 to 10 took as long as 8 to 9 cause i really started pushing corruption only then, before i was fixing my blessings and stuff, if only i knew earlier

[granite lagoon]

Especiall since there is no use for 99.9% of the items being sold, the market is flooded with items that baiscally dont sell, dont have an end of life / get destroyed and will forever accumulate

And noone would ever want to buy them because it costs favor, you cant resell them nor do anything related to crafting to them that would be intersting

[strong crater]

I think what's necessary is 1) a mechanic that increases exp gain by a lot once per day (daily quests/an exp boost/....) and 2) more interesting ways to gain reputation than simply grinding

[signal idol]

gimme quests similar to CoF, at lower levels you can get "tickets" to buy higher level, rare but not impossible to obtain is something i would love to see, but please no dailies, make it rare and let me spam quests :p

[strong crater]

those are the specifics, yes, doesn't have to be daily quests, I was just giving examples

[granite lagoon]

So bascially every non meta unique is now free but not buyable from anyone who could actually use them (low level / new to the game / excited about maybe not the BIS gear)

[strong crater]

"tickets" can work but I was specifically trying to address people who don't have a lot of time each day... those are the people benefitting from stuff like daily quests, "tickets" don't particularly help them

[tawny ferry]

agreed, i also think you could improve things a bit by changing the order just a bit. general Exalted/unique items Before Weapons so it is: 5 exalted items, 6 exalted weapons, 7 LP uniques, 8 LP uniques weapons

[strong crater]

imo people have too bad of an opinion of daily quests, too. If you simply had a selection of quests that gets automatically accepted during login and requires you to clear a few echos... no one would complain, right?

people are having nightmares due to years of doing daily quests in games like WoW I guess

[signal idol]

i don't like making this distinction tho, like if it has to take 5h, it's gonna take that much, keep it neutral, i don't want punishment for playing too much, neither i want to be awarded anything for it. You have only 1h a day? it'll take 5 days, i think it's fair, if i play more i should get more. I do see the frustration but i have no idea what a fix could be without messing stuff up.

[signal idol]

nah, i hate dailies cause gives you the feeling of "i gotta login everyday to do that chore", i think most who hate them is for that, used to play a mobile game and god felt good when i stopped playing it

[strong crater]

because this is hurting yourself and the whole system, you want people to participate in the market and the more people participate the better. If the grind becomes so much people quit before reaching the meaningful stages then something is wrong. I already see myself playing way less than before

[signal idol]

i would take a "just make it easier" as a solution, fair for everyone, doesn't help or hurt anyone in particular, add T6 exalts to lower tiers and keep t7 to higher or stuff like this

[tawny ferry]

i think you should just improve unreasonable amounts of grind instead of rewarding or punishing playtime amounts

[strong crater]

this would already be a lot better than the current system, yep

[signal idol]

sweaters would still grind the crap out to get those t7s, cause they are not making legendaries with t6s! at least 3lp ones (or rare 2lp ones) and casuals would have access to stuff at a resonable time, it's not like making it that grindy hurts people who play a lot anyway

[strong crater]

I think it would be fine because it puts up a system of progression which is exactly what an ARPG would want. You slowly gear yourself by doing content and unlocking ways to get better gear which allows you to do harder content

[dapper relic]

We also 1 week into a 3/4 month season. These factions are incredibly powerful for gearing alts

[signal idol]

then there's me, i hate making alts lol, i know just a me problem

[tawny ferry]

I have no clue but alot of casual players may never level an alt

[strong crater]

but imo top priority right now is reducing the amount of npcs (1 for weapons, 1 for armor, 1 for idols... or just 1 for everything) and make an actually useful search (stuff like putting in specific values for each affix). I really think the current search is close to unusable

[brittle aurora]

Make us able to search unique affix values

[signal idol]

i wish they gave us the D3 armory thing, i could easily make multiple builds on my same character

[strong crater]

yes that's also missing. I mean they can't be serious by making us scroll through pages to find the affix values we are looking for

[signal idol]

#1 priority should be search, i will live with having to walk a bit more, but hell that search kills me, have to stare at pages and pages of crap to maybe find 1 thing i could "maybe" craft off

[strong crater]

oh I agree the search is much more important, I was just naming the reduction of NPCs because it can hardly be a big deal

[tawny ferry]

I guess if they dont improve search functionality next cycle ill just go CoF on behalf of my nerves 😄

[signal idol]

hmm i also have this other thing, as someone who doesn't like to make multiple character, a way to transition from a faction to another, make it take time and hard, it's not something you should do willy nilly, but i wanna my this one char and maybe try CoF too... But that may have to wait next cycle

[granite lagoon]

I think the way it is now you almost need to play cof first to push corruption first and to level. Leveling a frist char with merchant feels so bad

You only profit off the merchant guild once the leveling is already over and everything is done in hard mode

[signal idol]

i did fine with MG tho, i mean i did have to grind for lv 8 but i made do with t20s and core uniques

[covert oxide]

can i link item screenshots here and ask how much ican sell them for?

[tawny ferry]

idk about that, getting you 0LP uniques and idols super early had its own appeal

[granite lagoon]

Im doing fine too, but with cof youd have a much smoother experience getting into the late 90s

I guess it depends on the build, but most builds want early exhaults right? At least my void knight feels better that way and being able to buy the lp uniques will only happen for me once im 100 already

[tawny ferry]

I would gladly start cycle with MG again if the search function improves

[obsidian coral]

has anyone heard why you can't search for chance to shred armor in bazaar?

[tawny ferry]

dozens of times already, idk about any EHG respnse sry ^^

[covert oxide]

does anyone have rank 8 mg yet?

[obsidian coral]

@tawny ferry any response from EHG on it? just a bug and they forgot to add it?

[tawny ferry]

almost rank 9

[covert oxide]

alright so, how much do legendary potential uniques go for? and how much do uniques go for in general

[tawny ferry]

impossible to answer briefly, some arent worth anything, some sell for multi millions, some uniques dont even exist with hifg potential.

[signal idol]

there's few cases of exalted items being mandatory, like mana cost for throwing, but if you're following a guide they all should have an alternative before going full exalts, keep in mind game was SSF just until now

[covert oxide]

uhh, i just dropped some and i have no idea how much do i list them for

[signal idol]

those are on the easier side to price check, just search them with same LP, price low to high and do check rolls

[tawny ferry]

just pricecheck them. uniques at least are super easy to compare. search for your uniques, set the legendary potential and have a look what they are selling for

[covert oxide]

alright thanks

[granite lagoon]

which is 0 for most of the things i find 😿

[alpine nest]

How much can I sell an acolyte large idol with 9%(out of 9)health and 12%(out of 13)? There are none in Bazar that are similar

12%Chance to fear on hit*

[tawny ferry]

Thats just the way things are sadly ^^ only a handful of uniques are wanted or super rare to get with LP. items that are common arent worth anything and worthwhile items are ... rare

[icy marsh]

evening all, whats the drama today

[signal idol]

give us better search and maybe make it a bit less grindy or change the system a bit

[covert oxide]

the things i wanted to sell have 16 pages full of 0-cost listings

[icy marsh]

ahhh the same as yesterday i see xD

[tawny ferry]

havnt seen much drama here recently except of usual search UI complaints

[weak atlas]

its really hard to price check things

[icy marsh]

I've noticed a lot of the same, they could do with removing the xp gains from making listings to prevent people doing this

[signal idol]

sometimes i price check stuff, when this happen the thing goes into the ground never to be seen again or picked up again lol

[remote orbit]

I don't understand the argument that the rep grind is too slow, the launch is a little over a week old. I don't expect to get to the high ranks in a few days.

[covert oxide]

by the way is it worth to just list off some random uniques/set items for low bucks?

[granite lagoon]

since there is no flipping the econemy just has this hard value threshold curve related to rarity which is bad, becasue it gets oversaturated by items that are never inted to be sold which is bad for the game

[signal idol]

tbf if you gonna do that, just gamble away at the faction vendor, but i guess they don't know

[icy marsh]

In principle it makes complete sense to prevent people using mg as a means to boost the best gear early

[tawny ferry]

I can relate a bit from where your coming but alot of players arent even lvl 7 a week after start and unable to buy regular exalted items

[remote orbit]

Ah yeah maybe, I just hit rank 6 and I think I play a lot already. But also, rep carries over between characters so I don't think it's that bad. I don't have to do it again on a second one when I get there.

[icy marsh]

How about this then... make bots pay out for our stuff without telling us its bots buying the stuff

[tawny ferry]

wouldnt the issue be much much worse if an oversaturated marked get flood with additional relisted items?

[signal idol]

i don't think we should talk about how many people this or that, make it more objective, how many hours they expect someone to play to get to a certain rank, cause certainly the game shouldn't balanced around a guy who can play 1m a day right

[dusk sedge]

is it me or getting to level 7 on MG is really hard? i am level 91 and i am only halfway thru with only 10k favor left

[granite lagoon]

Not if buying is free too, since then then underpriced stuff would be taken out which would improve the curve that relates value vs rarity a lot

[median heron]

Is merchant guild good or bad right know? if it comes to let say 2lp items and good exalted ?

[icy marsh]

loads of good items just wont be able to buy them for a couple week xD

[remote orbit]

Maybe the last ranks take longer than they should yeah, I'm 87 and I just hit rank 6 a few minutes ago

[tawny ferry]

I agree that the game shouldnt be balanced around the bottom end. Maybe I just assume that players are lower lvl than they are. If that what I said above is true for the Average player is what i meant and i have no Idea what the average player is atm.

[icy marsh]

Im also only lv 6 at rank 90

[dusk sedge]

Yeee i know higher corrupted monolith's give more, but they are starting to get difficult increasingly, but I can't even do them as i can't even get the exalted gear that my build need

[granite lagoon]

Im 6 at 94

[signal idol]

yeah, we do have an idea on how long it would take to get to certain levels, like rank 9 is 99, but how many hours* is that usually? ofc depends on how good the player is aswell, to someone 99 could be like way too much and someone would be like "oh just 99?"

[remote orbit]

Yeah I understand. I feel like I'm stuck cause my defenses aren't strong enough to push further, but I can't afford the items I need in relation to items I'm selling.

[tawny ferry]

why would reselling have any impact on how much underpriced items are getting sold?

[icy marsh]

you do seem to get a lot of xp for spending favor though. I've just been getting lost in monoliths and stockpiling what i presume to be decent gear in my stash

[granite lagoon]

because everything that is free would immediatly leave the market then people would start buying underpriced stuff and the prices would balance them self creating a more linear curve. Then items would be relisted more along that curve.

Thats bascailly just how capitalism/markets work

[weak atlas]

ive been stock piling stuff now waiting for a price check system

[tawny ferry]

i think alot of items rn are underpriced because nobody wants them, because they are not good items that wouldnt have any resell value

[granite lagoon]

Then they should be cheap not free, represting a value that is valuable for someone likely to find it

[icy marsh]

I've gone the more defence heavy route as a falconer. it's not necessarily what any build suggests but it's much easier to push corruption if you lean more into defence and max your resiliences than it is to follow some "op" build that requires xyz component to survive

[signal idol]

i think doing monos is better, but if you want a "sure" way to make money try to do like t3 dungeons for the uniques, 0lp helm from arbor sells decently like bottom end 140k if well rolled 300-400k is not out of question, this should help you get the funding to get started, assuming you can do t3 dungeons, if you do soulfire bastion then gamble amulets at the end, belt is good money but less than 1/5 at t4 so even less at t3 probably, amulet sells for like 100k
EDIT: oh dungeons won't give much favour, that's main reason why i don't reccomend it right away.

[granite lagoon]

Im its obvious the market is broken atm for a lot of items

[tawny ferry]

I dont even know why people are listing 0 gold items right in this moment ^^ well at least not any logical reason. I wouldnt bother

[icy marsh]

surely some of the people doing this are in this chat and can explain the apparent stupidity xD

[stark glacier]

Misunderstanding, some people think items need to actually sell to get ranks

[chilly sandal]

I think there was a belief that you get favor when the item sold. I remember seeing or reading that somewhere. But in game it clearly showed otherwise. Rumors being rumors.

[split wave]

There's two kinds of people in this world. People who list 0g items because they have no idea what they are doing, and people who list 0g items because they just want to give away their stuff.

[signal idol]

it was bugged, you should receive exp when you put it up for sale, but bug made it so you got it when it sold, that's where it came from, not sure if it was just a visual thing tho

[icy marsh]

trade it with a randomer in a town then and stop being a douche xD

[split wave]

[chilly sandal]

Interesting, that must've been early on I assume. Not surprised with all the visual bugs on the character sheet.

[granite lagoon]

Some people list stuff for 0g because they dont care and some people for 2000000 because they dont care and some people for some random amounts in between they dont care including me

[icy marsh]

everyone in mg can trade with each other directly if they want to give stuff away is what i'm getting at XD

[mossy grotto]

They just do it to spend favor to gain rep. That or just gambling

[split wave]

I know, that doesn't really have anything to do with the meme I posted...

[remote orbit]

Would you guys prefer if EHG required a base price for items to list?

[signal idol]

unless they make it stupid high, that baseline would just be new 0 lol

[remote orbit]

I mean, some money to buy gear is better than no money to buy no gear

[icy marsh]

might be an unpopular take but the way it looks i'd say it should cost you more favor the more gold you ask for in return for the item

thats the impression i first got when i looked at the way they had the system, the way i thought it would work

[mossy grotto]

I think they should find some way to limit what people can list. Its just filled with infinite garbage currently

[stark glacier]

I'm not too sure, considering how that interacts with the fact you get ranks for spending favor

[remote orbit]

Damn i found a cheap exalted staff to buy I needed and I bricked the crafting.

Also, idk if this is a take. But maybe they should reverse the ranks where you get armor before weapons. Survivability feels more important than damage

[signal idol]

how about no favour to sell just favour to buy? that should solve 0 listings i think (at least favour related ones)

[split wave]

If it took 0 favor to list, I would just list all my trash for 0g lol
We need better search tools, and also it needs to be easier to price check

[tawny ferry]

you would have to limit your items in the stall then or you could just flood the market with trash (great trolling potential btw)

[icy marsh]

see i dont think thats how xp should be earned, at least not with the way we are all actually interacting with the system. we'd all have to sell/buy stuff we dont need like rares to be able to get higher ranks and that requires people buying stuff they dont need

[signal idol]

well, i mean, you are the one wasting time at it... and also sorry to say, but a butt hole (damn you censor!) lol

[mossy grotto]

Im down for a limit of how manyitems you can have listed a once.

[tawny ferry]

At least rn the 0 gold listings are only misinformation, god forbid what kind of 0g listings we get when rep grind is actually based on sold items

[split wave]

lol, well depends how you look at it... one man's trash is another's treasure

[signal idol]

i could do that rn, i make more than enough favour to buy w/e i need i coud list those 200-300lp items all day with like 1h of farming, also i'd prefer if they just limited the space you got to sell, even without this flooding non-sense, no one would bat an eye, it just makes sense you don't have unlimited spots to sell lol

[icy marsh]

i think that goes back to what i was saying earlier about spending more favor the more gold you ask for in return for your item. would be worthless putting something up for 0 gold if you get 0 favor

[tawny ferry]

Fair, havent red that one

[mossy grotto]

But people dont need the favor. Eventually everyone is going to be in my situation, the same situation a lot of hard grinders are in, youre lvl 10 merchant, infinitr favor, nothing really to buy. What now lmao

[icy marsh]

then we'd only be earning big money the later into the game we go when we'd be earning more favor

[flint wadi]

Joined MG yesterday, wish I had sooner, glad to be here

[icy marsh]

youd need the favor if they charged you more favour to sell stuff at a higher asking price

[quartz valve]

long term this is the only way to min max your build without much effort, just get to tier 8 MG and you're gucci

[signal idol]

yeah but imagine dropping something crazy early and making bank... then you can't cause you have no favour lol

[mossy grotto]

I mean once youre in higher corruption, favor becomes obsolete. You can farm like 100k favor in like an hour

[flint wadi]

Ironically it seems cheaper (gold), since wish Circle of Fortune you're likely gonna spend bank on stash tabs

[tawny ferry]

All that I learned so far is that I never wanna create a Trade System myself xD its literally impossible to make a decision thats not met with immediate Backlash

[icy marsh]

i'd say theres nothing stopping you keeping it in your stash until youve progressed to the big leagues

[signal idol]

or you could use the gold now to get upgrades and push faster instead of having a gold nugget in the stash that you won't be using

[icy marsh]

ahh okay then theres a fundamental issue with the system theyve got in place that requires a much bigger brain than mine

pinch the systems from poe and call it a day they work there right

[tawny ferry]

Im at 350 corruption and favour is still the bottleneck but nowhere the problem mentioned by some other people

[signal idol]

it's weird, you suffer the grind until like lv8 and after that favour basically is a non-issue mostly

[mossy grotto]

Yea its just an endgame thing, favor becomes basically useless in the endgame. I wish there was something to do with it. At least cof has prophecies they can spend favor on non stop. MG just has nothing. Gonna skt there with 999999favor and do nothing

[icy marsh]

theyre banking on you spending favour to buy items you want i guess, but eventually youve got everything you want, and cant sell stuff fast enough i guess so yeah, needs tweeking

[signal idol]

make 4lp levelling legendaries! xD

[mossy grotto]

Problem with this is you get gated by gold way more than favor. Farming 10mil gold takes way longer than the 18k favor needed to buy like a 3lp unique

[tawny ferry]

im interested if or by how much my sales go up in a couple of days when people havce higher rep

[icy marsh]

personally id go down the route of it costing you more favor in return for more gold, i think that would help the end game imbalance of favor to gold but cant speak from any experience

[signal idol]

also gold is kinda in a weird state, like other than stash tabs and arbor it doesn't have any uses does it? like why is it even valuable

[mossy grotto]

Eventually the only items that are gonna sell are high lp uniques, t7 highroll exalteds, health idols. Tats about it

[remote orbit]

gold number going up gives me dopamine

[icy marsh]

and early days gamers arent absolutely loaded when they realistically shouldnt be

[tawny ferry]

like real money, becaus its a reliable trade quantity that people have trust in to not change dramatically in value (ingame gold value doesnt change guaranteed)

[mossy grotto]

Time to make an alt, pivot cof

[signal idol]

not really, like you say value doesn't change, there's no other uses for it so what's that value? tomorrow people could double it or half it cause.. why not

[icy marsh]

thats where gold needs another function in the game, perhaps used in forging for example to keep gold reserves down so people want to make/earn the money through trade

[tawny ferry]

what kinda value does real money have you think? its weight in gold, the paper value? ^^

[signal idol]

i mean, not weight, but yeah, they do anchor money to gold or something that has value in itself, otherwise it would be just paper

[tawny ferry]

tying money value to gold isnt a thing for a looong time anymore (google what "fiat money" is if youre really interested wikipedia can answer it way better than i ever could) modern money isnt bound to any physical good anymore

[remote orbit]

i'm voting for ron paul, give us back the gold standard 😡

[signal idol]

the thing is, there's a body that'll guarantee you something of value for money, that's how real money works, sure economics is way more complicated, but that's the basic of it

[icy marsh]

I believe merchant will be the ultimate place to be, but not just yet with the current systems in place

[stark glacier]

I honestly don't have an answer as to how to balance favor longevity - the system is really cool but ultimately you get gold at some rate and favor at some other rate.. Maybe favor farming should be a lot more of a conscious decision than passively earning it, since gold already serves that purpose

[split wave]

No there's not. That's just how things used to be a long time ago.

[tawny ferry]

yep 😄

[signal idol]

alright what if tomorrow goverments and banks all over the world go down? will your money be useful for anything aside burning paper?

[remote orbit]

Add a bank you can invest in and take missions from, kind of like prophecies, but instead of items it's gold.

Let me invest in a 401k

[stark glacier]

It won't, but there's a decent chance that all governments and banks in the world won't simultaneously shutdown tonight

[split wave]

It's not quite that simple, but yeah if suddenly nobody wants your money for whatever reason, then it has no value
In LE, it's not the same as real world money because you can use gold in LE to actually generate stuff.

[icy marsh]

this would be a good idea if they can think of ways to flesh it out enough and lend more value to the in game currency through some other means

[strong crater]

do I misunderstand something? Can you somehow set the amount of favor an item costs?

[signal idol]

like... yeah sure, but if by absurd it happened, your money wouldn't be worth anything, or not? that's the main point

[icy marsh]

currency is only as valuable as the things you can do with it, and how much of it there is readily available

[remote orbit]

Let merchant's guild have time shares and pyramid schemes.

[split wave]

No, favor cost is calculated by the game based on the item

[burnt scaffold]

yo guys, where do I find how reputation works exactly? can anyone point me to a resource?

[signal idol]

that's would be another reason to have a good gold sink

[stark glacier]

Yeah but everyone just kind of understands that it probably won't happen and therefore is comfortable treating it as having value to some extent - if you're worried about a global disaster of that scale, you can always use your money on long lasting supplies now before said disaster struck

[icy marsh]

thats why we need more things to spend favor on, and more to spend gold on

[mossy grotto]

Im starting to think the opposite. MG definetly easier to start out but end end game, i think cof has better odds of for example getting 4LP exsang than you buying a 4 LP exsang. Not to mention the gold required to buy such an item, or the odds items like this just get sold third party

[signal idol]

basically you're denying that it can happen, therefore money won't lose value, but with that you're saying without those bodies your money wouldn't be worth anything, so there's someone guaranteeing you something for that paper

[tawny ferry]

If people still believe in your currency it doesnt need a government or bank guaranteeing a standard but it certainly helps. Trust is the only thing mandatory to make a Currency valuable.

[icy marsh]

someone was here the other night though saying that cof was a nightmare for them because they werent getting the roll they wanted and kept getting duplicate trash

[strong crater]

thanks

[stark glacier]

I agree on having more gold sinks btw, but their purpose would be less to give gold value and more to hold back inflation, which then has multiple advantages

[icy marsh]

i think adding a cost to forging items could be a healthy addition to the game

[remote orbit]

Nah.

[signal idol]

no doubt about it, but what can i trust my gold into, that's what i'm asking basically, it's just players believing for now... i could farm gold for a week and then people suddenly decide that's worth 10x less now... cause well inflation since no sinks and i can't use my gold for anything else (well i could be the lord of the stash tabs, maybe try to crash servers with the amount lol)

[tawny ferry]

having a gold sink is always a good idea. even if its not really used atm, at some point itll become worthwhile if the gold value hits a certain threshold

[obtuse lichen]

so is merchants guild good, or CoF the way?

[icy marsh]

not suggesting we like it but i think it would be healthy xD we are all here talking about making gold but what are we looking to spend it on?

[mossy grotto]

Thats still starting out, end endgame would be waiting for these unrealistic upgrades like the 3/4lps. I think playing MG, you hit a wall pretty fast where you can no longer really buy upgrades. No good exalted bases on ah and no actual 3/4 LPs on market

[tranquil dagger]

cof gives dopamine.. mg gives shopping

[tawny ferry]

You can trust your gold in the Believe itself that you can buy another item from it tomorrow.

[signal idol]

what if gold coul power up glyphs of hope, to a point of course and exponentially expensive, would give us a good reason to eat up gold

[stark glacier]

That's something I didn't even really think about, that worse ones kinda function as a release valve, that's pretty interesting

[remote orbit]

I don't want to spend gold, I want to hoard it. I'm gonna start Last Epoch Amazon and be Jeff Bezos

[split wave]

There is already a gold sink in LE, the Arbor is what caps inflation. You can argue it's not good enough, but it's definitely there.

[signal idol]

yeah but now items are worth billions because people have decide it's value is garbage (well people... mostly would be botters, altho it's a paid game so the problem should be way less impactful than a F2P)

[icy marsh]

since playing different builds in this game on any one character is pretty much not a thing what are we going to spend our gold on once we've bought what we want xD

[mossy grotto]

Time to make infinite alts

[signal idol]

True, if gold was to be inflated to the moon you'd rather take it to the arbor, but then i'm just playing a bad CoF 😦

[sacred trench]

what's a good price to list idols for?

[tawny ferry]

maybe im too tired rn but i dont see the connection between some oddball pricespikes from people that dont care and Gold Value itself

[mossy grotto]

Depends in stats and rolls

[sacred trench]

what about this https://i.imgur.com/BCN7vQa.png

[split wave]

Yeah exactly, if it ever gets bad enough that Arbor is the best option, it's going to revert a bit or the economy gets dead from people just not participating

[stark glacier]

Ideally, going to Arbor removes gold and introduces items, thus bringing item value back down, and these forces would ideally cancel out, we just need people who have fun buying keys (can you, actually? If not, maybe farming them on a CoF alt), plunging into Arbor and coming back with loot to sell

[mossy grotto]

No idea tbh. I only pick up idols with a health roll.

[signal idol]

there's isn't any right now that i can notice at least, but without sinks, inflation should definetly come (ofc selling items will be also more valuable but farming gold itself will be worse and worse i think), then again i'm no expert in economics maybe i'm wrong.

[split wave]

Go to idol vendor, filter for idols with whatever your idol's rolls are, see prices

[sacred trench]

fairy nuff, thanks

[mossy grotto]

Is arbor actually a lot of items? Ngl ive done it once

[tawny ferry]

but as mentioned earlier there is a sink ingame, just that it may only kick in at a certain time when arbor becomes more profitable in relation to gold amount

[signal idol]

i remember it being nice when you threw like 3-5m at it, but was way back

[stark glacier]

idk I did Arbor once on T2, spent like 30k and left with an inventory of crafting mats for my CoF SAF, so I'm not a good source for how Arbor is for sellables

[split wave]

Yeah, it drops a ton of stuff if you know what you're doing. People just also don't like it much because it's gambling.

[tawny ferry]

depends on luck and amount of gold spent, it can be an absolute loot pinata

[mossy grotto]

But lets be real, we dont need a gold sink, we need a favor sink. We have plenty of gold sinks like buying a 3lp boneclamour for like 30m lmao

[signal idol]

i mean, hopefully people use it? i felt it was trash before and i would just buy more tabs and run more monos, with CoF now not sure i see arbor's beauty, i guess once i have 100s of millions i could do some runs, prolly quit way before that happens tho

[tawny ferry]

i am 100% certain that people will use it if, and only if it becomes profitable. and if inflation ever gets really really bad that point will come eventually and some kind of equillibrium will form

[split wave]

That's exactly how the LE economy is designed to function
They will not add additional gold sinks, they will only modify the one we have

[tawny ferry]

ye

[stark glacier]

That's what I'm hoping for too, main reason I hope for more sinks is so that people in trade have more to choose from -> more people find some they have fun running, since that's also a huge factor

[runic crater]

how much is a Merophage nowadays?

[signal idol]

oh, i got what you meant, that should be the case, if using gold in arbor gives me more gold in items to sell. Should work in theory, altho may be a bit held back by the searching tools lol

[polar forum]

On paper it should be worth a lot, but its not a rare drop therefore its pretty cheap. At that point you just try to get one with a good base roll

[tawny ferry]

i mean, better than "in theory" isnt possible atm anyways 😄

[mossy grotto]

The problem is that 99.9% of items rn are worthless, if you dont hit a few t7 exalteds and some high LP uniques, its just a waste of gold

[polar forum]

IDK I found some success selling entry level stuff. Like yellows with crafted affixes that people can get at rank 1 and selling them for like 50-120k each

[split wave]

Well, it is called the Vault of Uncertain Fate for a reason

[rustic lodge]

They need to think something about that... its annoying to spend hours and hours there

[tawny ferry]

some of my T6 exalts on decent bases sell (not pced just put random prices on). not a huge proportion but i sell like 10 of those a day for like 1-2m? better than nothing at least

[signal idol]

True, i think the whole discussion falls into the "need more endgame" category in the end

[polar forum]

Yeah only some of the t6 bases will sell. I usually don't even bother with t6 unless its a good affix and has 3 total affixes and not 4. That makes it worth like 40-80k to me.
I put more value on 3 affixes instead of 4 because it makes the base easier to craft on.

[signal idol]

1-2m each or total? cause if each i need you to teach me your ways xD

[split wave]

My only gripe is that the economy feels super clunky because it's a PITA to price check, so the efficient answer is to just list things at totally arbitrary prices
Well, and the search function is lacking lol

[strong crater]

I just hope we won't have to wait for 1 month+ for changes that make the bazaar usable

[tawny ferry]

i have a strict base filter for T6 and give them a short look at least. if it looks decent then i pick it up, stash it and when stash is full i list all of them for like 100-500k. 2m total

[polar forum]

Yeah rare uniques and LP uniques are some of the easier to price check stuff...t6/t7 exalts and most idols are difficult.

[signal idol]

i guess i just need more experience with more builds, i did play a lot... but only 3 builds till now, basically have no clue on what's good lol

[polar forum]

Something I worry about is that the total items listed on the bazaar will keep going up and up...I wonder if the server is going to suffer from it LMAO.

There's what? Like 300k idols up right now or something? (I'm at work so idk yet)

[strong crater]

uniques is where I'm completely lost because 99% seem to be trash as well and you only know... how? check the bazaar and write down which ones are useless? Even those commonly used in some builds are mostly priced at 0 gold

[mossy grotto]

Yea for sure, i just meant like it will be hard to get your moneyback from arbor gambling

[spice jungle]

Got to rank 9 shortly after hitting 100 lvl

[tawny ferry]

i have like only 100h ingame and dont know many builds. its just stuff like hey turquise is a decent ring base and T6 physical res looks a bit usefull just put it up for 200k and maybe with like 10% chance it gets sold

[polar forum]

Most uniques will not sell for much because they are either common drops or common LP drops. They have to be hard to find ones.

[strong crater]

there are 6k pages of amulets and 7k pages of rings right now (not in list view)

[stark glacier]

I'm tempted to give MG a try at some point but at the same time I really hate the idea of looking at guides for popular items to sell - would I do fine just selling exalteds that sound obviously good (like exalted damage/pen on a decent weapon) and uniques?

[mossy grotto]

You really only need to care about meta builds. Like runemasters falconers warlocks

[tawny ferry]

rn its almost impossible to get your gold back, but imagine if things get really bad and gold gets like inflated by 100x and suddenly arbor look mightily juicy

[signal idol]

aight, just me being lazy probably then, i feel like i would never use a t6 exalted res and so feel like no one would buy, but that's just me being me

[tawny ferry]

tbh 95% of the times it wont but im listing a whole stash

[polar forum]

Gold income does feel super low. Merchants really need a prophecy equivalent like "Ledgers" or "Work Orders" to fill out essentially trading favor to get "Contracts" to get gold when completing certain farms or something

[signal idol]

yeah selling the uniques for those builds, but i really should check what gear they are looking for, should be nice money off half decent items when it's about meta builds

[strong crater]

making gold more accessible will usually lead to prices going up lol

[mossy grotto]

Gold becomes easier to farm at higher corruption. Just base rewards for an echo can be like 10-20k

[split wave]

There's stat stacker builds for most resist types. Necrotic is super popular atm.
Cold also should still be popular

[polar forum]

That's fine. As it stands, even optimal gold farms are absurdly weak. The only way I'm getting gold is to sell items. This is the most hilariously gold compressed deflation economy I've ever seen.

[tawny ferry]

Cold res can become oddly valuable because of the dex stacker boots

[signal idol]

knew about necrotic and maybe another one, but really, for every res? that's pretty impressive for build diversity

[mossy grotto]

Also everylowlife build wants some tbh

[split wave]

Well, most aren't popular, some might even be kinda lame. The big thing about trade is you just gotta know what's hot at the moment

[signal idol]

that's the one i know of... cause i'm one of those lol, the best way for myself to learn is just play many builds (i'm not that into studying up a build i'm not playing)

[tawny ferry]

thing about res is, every build needs then, and if youve got a hole your defences suffer a great deal

[mossy grotto]

Cold res, necrotic res, dodge, hybrid health just to name some popular suffixes

[fickle wadi]

Is dodge really that popular?

[polar forum]

Wait is cold res popular because of the blessing overlap on the Armor blessing on Winter? XD

[signal idol]

i def should've kept an eye out of necro res, knew about it and didn't really click in my mind, minion health is hot too for that build right?

[tawny ferry]

if im not mistaken, lightning and fire res are still pretty garbage

[mossy grotto]

Runemasters need a lot of it for their scaling.

@polar forum its because with frostbite gloves, cold res scales ward

[stark glacier]

Actually I think that could work, if the design goal is to keep favor income passive, the ability to spend it on gold could make it so that favor keeps serving its purpose while favor > gold for you but has a sink once gold > favor

[signal idol]

yeah def like that, really want side quests like the prophecy ones

[polar forum]

Ah right. I'm doing some lightning build XD. It's effective because of things like Fragment of the Enigma and the Mad Alchemist's Spoon but it definitely feels like it is missing some additional synergy

[mossy grotto]

Lemme trade 100k favor for 1m gold 👀 . Im down for that kind of favor dump

[signal idol]

i mean, given favour doesn't really much of a use, even if it's a bit low i'd take it lol

[split wave]

Doesn't have much of a use? Are you not buying anything?

[tawny ferry]

btw. its a pain to redeem your sold items if you have like 6 pages and they are in random spots

[icy marsh]

just made a brew and left it in the kitchen

[tiny spire]

FR

[stark glacier]

At some point you're buying high end very rare 3-4LP items where I'd imagine gold becomes the limiting factor, but you're still gaining favor passively

[mossy grotto]

Im lvl 10 merchant with 500k favor. Nothing i buy will make me lack favor tbh. Lacking gold more than favor

[strong crater]

how can you be a level 10 merchant when reaching lvl 6 alone takes more than 180 echos :X

[polar forum]

How do you have so much favor. I wish people could SELL favor. I would spend gold on it cause its definitely bottlenecking me bad

[icy marsh]

how is levelling the alt going

[tiny spire]

bro truly is the protagonist of solo levelling. TEACH ME THE WAYS

[polar forum]

lol you know what? That is SUCH a merchant thing....a favor > gold and gold > favor exchange lmao

[signal idol]

I've been lv 10 for few days already, once you push corruption it's just fast and easy

[tawny ferry]

pushing corruption helps

[mossy grotto]

The higher corruption the more favor you get. So no lifedthe game at launch and here i am.

[stark glacier]

I'm yapping here a lot of a CoF player but I think the idea of favor sink for gold works really well with passive favor income and static favor prices per item class regardless of its rarity within the class

[split wave]

You should be listing more items. That's why you have way too much favor and not enough gold

[mossy grotto]

Im feeling the spellblade. Sounds like a meme class but it looks cool. Throwback to when i played poe coc builds

[polar forum]

I played the game an absurd amount...like 80 hours so far and I'm level 98 and barely hit rank 8. I've listed at least 200+ items.

[signal idol]

You'd need lp3 items all the time to use the favour and those don't come by often

[split wave]

Exalts cost a good chunk to list, and you get TONS of them

[icy marsh]

kinda wanna make another rogue and go melee as ive played falconer since launch

[polar forum]

Yeah i think its like 700 for t6 and 1000 for t7 or something. And it costs more to buy/sell them if they are experimental.

[signal idol]

I mean, If you pushed lv 10 fast you prolly have a filter that hides most of them

[mossy grotto]

Im at 800 corruptionrn, i can probably farm 100k favor in a hour or two. And i only really list t7. 99% of t6 is just not worth picking up

[tawny ferry]

i am lvl 99, almost rank 9 and i do list a TON of exalted items

[signal idol]

Less listing more mono farming XD, jk doesn't really matter After lv8 anyways

[split wave]

Right, and that's the point... you don't list enough

[tawny ferry]

i just do it when drinking coffe, eating etc. Chatting in this channel is a bigger timesink than picking and listing items by a mile xD but who cares, its fun

[signal idol]

Can't disagree with last one lol

[mossy grotto]

List things that wont get sold? Its like if i list some 1-2lp uniques that sell for0-10k. Waste of time

[split wave]

They do get sold though

[tawny ferry]

list things for 100-500k, 5% sell

[signal idol]

The slow mode is actually nice, do a mono -> write something rinse and repeat lol

[tiny spire]

whts the slow mode at now? it tkes me 90 -120 seconds to do a mono.

[mossy grotto]

But rn im losing the desire to grind more. Mainly because ill just be farming gold for items that may not even show up in market 😭

[signal idol]

Tbh I hear you guys listing tons of item, I'm terrified if someday I'm like "I had something like that for sale" and it's time to dig in a full on database lol

[tawny ferry]

you mean if you wanna use one of your items in the stall?

[signal idol]

Buying out the market and missing all the crafts, time to sleep and wait for the market to refill... Have been there

[mossy grotto]

Yea its like i log in, go look at t7 exalted bases, nothing. Ok time to try later

[signal idol]

Yep, how does that go (never delisted an item)

[tiny spire]

oh snap we only hve 1 minute slow mode now. ❤️ mods.

[spare sequoia]

CoF or MG? im almost to the point of choosing. i was intially gonna go MG but i see people regretting it.. so idk which i should do for my first time.

[tawny ferry]

dont have an answer to that, havnt planned another build, and i wont list stuff for the current one

[earnest sapphire]

Cof if u go ssf

[jade stump]

any way to search based on % res for omnis?

[signal idol]

That's the neat part, you don't (can't)

[mossy grotto]

Nope

[normal roost]

Do you like trading? Go MG. Do you like playing on your own and target farming things? Go COF.

[tiny spire]

that depends on how quickly you need your positive reinforcement. If you are patient and can handle delayed positive reinforcement I'd go with merchnts guild. if you need the constant and early positive reinforcement go with cof.

[mossy grotto]

Man i want to make some OP alt leveling items but i also want to go cof on alt 😭

[earnest sapphire]

Isn't it the opposite? You can just buy gear with MG as u go.. U can stay hours without loot with cof still

[icy marsh]

make some?

[split wave]

Nothing stopping you, that's what I did - you just can't buy the items to craft up.

[signal idol]

Can't use those on CoF if it's from trade

[mossy grotto]

But then i cant go cof. I wont be able to use any of the leveling items

[tiny spire]

nope i cn't buy uniques yet and i'm lvl 96. it tkes alot of time nd efffort to get to lvl 8, the ability to buy all uniques

[split wave]

Yes you can, if you didn't buy the item(s)

[signal idol]

At some everyone will prolly have to make a CoF alt... To farm those pesky glyphs of despair

[mossy grotto]

Bouta make a spellblade tonight with bis leveling gear. One shot lagon TRUST.

[normal roost]

You have to think that factions are going to help you a lot in the really end game, even because with the merchant’s guild you are not gaining access to LP uniques until level 8, and it requires a lot of time to get it. So it’s all about what you enjoy!

[spare sequoia]

I like the idea of marketing stuff and im patient to extent lol, im not new to having to farm stuff either. hm thanks guys, yalls input does help me figure what each is about.

[normal roost]

Some good players play in MG and some others play in COF, so choose to your preferences. If you wanna hear my thoughts I personally wouldn’t play MG just because how bad is the actual system. You can’t price check what you drop, you have to walk a lot because you can’t sell what you want to a single merchant, you spend most of your time in the baazar and the level restrictions are a bit weird, same for the prices! @earnest sapphire

[celest barn]

hello guys how can i filter in market (int stat for example)

[tawny ferry]

you can expand the menu with the "more" button, search for int under affixes and select a tier you want, more isnt possible atm

[mossy grotto]

You can sell everything to one guy though. I list everything to the gloves guy

[celest barn]

thanks !

[normal roost]

Yes, but in order to price check the things you still have walk a marathon!

[jade zinc]

Just got rank 8, any opinions on must buy 3lp uniques?

[mossy grotto]

Price checking overrated just mass list 💀

[tawny ferry]

doesnt that completely depend on the build your playing? ^^

[mossy grotto]

Really just depends on your build. You cant resell anyways so just buy what you need.

[jade zinc]

my build is pretty good as is since i got it to 98 grinding it up. thats why im askin

[tawny ferry]

you cant resell them anyways so ... just buy for your next build? 😄

[normal roost]

Mass list? Like you sell every drops you get for a standard price? Like 100/200k?

[jade zinc]

yes... i want to use them in the future and get it now while theyre cheap. so, in your opinion, what would be a must buy item?

[mossy grotto]

That doesnt mean anything though, i could tell you 3lp exsang is good but if youre not playing lowlife, it has no value to you

[tawny ferry]

there are no must by items just in general, without a build planned thats really hard to answer. Buy Mad alchemists ladle, I like that one xD

[hot flicker]

question, if someone teleports you to the merchants guild on a new char, can you just enter?

[tight light]

yes

[wary tendon]

can someone get me waypoint to bazaar real quick 🙂 IGN: wow

[velvet zodiac]

can anyone tp me to MG. for an alt

[viscid breach]

can someone dm me please and help me with something in the Bazaar. Traders Guild is what I need help with.

i cant post a picture of the item here, so please dm me

[hot flicker]

i just found out that you dont need to get teleported to guild. you can join the guild in the first town (on your second character that is). also dont port there bc you cant get back to the story without help

[grim flint]

Hey guys , DM me if u are interested in a complete pricelist of all Uniques ingame . 🙂 (spent 4 hours to look up every Uniques min. LP and min. WW req to be worth something). Keep up the Grind my guys and enjoy ur Weekend ❤️

[agile current]

It'd be nice if you could access the bazaar in the first town too, for gearing characters early

[radiant stratus]

anyone knows how much this would be worth? there s like no double exalt with this tier of runic on the market and I just cant tell
https://imgur.com/a/vR3Gy06

[remote orbit]

oh nice, i just got a perfect roll hammerdin idol (smite on throw, armor shred on throw). we making money boys

[rough spruce]

If you go merchant can you trade with your friends or is it the same as cof, that you need the reso?

[spiral chasm]

when sorting by min/max affix count in mechant guild will start working?

[vapid flint]

anyone knw if they are planning on doing a fix for merchants guild? ranking up issues etc.) or will it be the same for a while?

[vital wasp]

its not possible to see the sealed (5th) stat on items in the bazaar?

[drowsy lichen]

PLEASE for the LOVE!!! make the search engine for selling/pricing and SEARCHING for items ALOT ALOT ALLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT BETTER

[earnest sapphire]

whats the best way to rank up with MG? just switched from cof

[hallow wharf]

were u still able to use your previous gears from COF? or cant anymore?

[earnest sapphire]

i made a new character, but no, u cant use cof gear if u switch to MG, cant sell it either ofc

[tardy terrace]

Are thete any plans for inproving thr merchants guild interface? Its horendous to look for items

[icy marsh]

towns really laggy today for anyone else?

[worldly shard]

So I am watching a video on MG and he is saying best way to lvl up rank to 7 and 8 is to ofc farm mono with empowered to gain favour and buy bad weapons with 3 LP to spend favour, HIGH favour LOW gold because we don't wanna use our gold, although what about gamble ? Doesn't it double the favour we spend on her ? Isn't it better ? I mean we aint spending any gold at all

[icy marsh]

its xp per favor spent so just gamble mate dont bother wasting time looking for stuff at vendors

[worldly shard]

yes but is the favour doubled on gambler ?

[remote orbit]

Yes, Mike said so earlier in the dev stream. They want to add more functions.

[icy marsh]

i dont think its doubled no maybe fleshy could say for certain, i think its just xp per favor spent

[worldly shard]

I will test it now and let you know.

[drifting moon]

is it worth it at all buying the items from the faction vendor?

[tardy terrace]

I see, thats good, the game feels like its such a better experience to just play offline solo self found whit other faction

[remote orbit]

I don't know the ratio.

[icy marsh]

if you want to level up the faction buy from the gambler at bazaar yes

[drifting moon]

but can the items be any good?

[worldly shard]

So, I had 103576 and I spent 8300 on amulet that should give me 95276 but now I have 86976

[icy marsh]

generally not but youre buying for xp not for good items

[drifting moon]

ahh ok

[worldly shard]

16600 I received its doubled that confirms it !

[remote orbit]

Yeah, he talked about MG a couple times earlier. Weird they didn't announce the stream in news or something. But it's still going on. https://www.twitch.tv/lastepochgame

[icy marsh]

spent all night on an alt soooo not getting far loook

[icy marsh]

ive got faith theyll sort it, and dont think its even close to top priority atm which is understandable

[tardy terrace]

Its late i cant watch it, i moslty read text too that watch, thanks anyway, i think i just reroll to cof for now it feels not to good i spend more time ib menus that playing the game,got rank 5 to feelsabd and gonna lose some items and idols

[icy marsh]

especially not since most are in cof and enjoying it for the time being theyll just take the win on that while sort priority stuff

[remote orbit]

I think he said they got some UX stuff planned before or at the next cycle, so maybe a couple months.

Also, I should mention I've been wrong lately. I thought I read/heard they were releasing the bazaar API, but Mike said they have no plans to so idk. I thought I read they were in a reddit comment.

[granite lagoon]

I'm legit thinking about just spending all my favor at this point just to progress. Probably gonna list every single unsellable ex/unique and set item. It feels so bad

[icy marsh]

youre a bad bad man

[near bolt]

why dont you spend your favors at the gambler NPC in Bazaar?

[granite lagoon]

At least I have a chance to randomly sell some of the stuff. I just sold a random ex item for 200k

[tawny ferry]

gambler doesnt give more rep or usable items

[icy marsh]

youll not be able to get rid of your favor by the time youre at top tier monolith corruption so spend it mate.

[remote orbit]

😭

[near bolt]

this is just wrong, you spend favor for items at Merchant Gambler and you get rep

[granite lagoon]

I just list stuff for money that would kinda matter at least

[icy marsh]

jake was right spellblade is op af

[tawny ferry]

the base items from the gambler are subpar and the random chance of a good item is astronomically low. your basically just converting favour to rep without benefit

[icy marsh]

face tanking all kinds of sht

[granite lagoon]

But yeah even tho this kinda sucks, im still having a blast. I love the game

[near bolt]

im not talking about the gold gambler but the merchant gambler at bazaar

[tawny ferry]

yeah me too

[near bolt]

so its better to list useless uniques to spend favor on than gambling? at least I get exalted items from the pretty often

[pine pasture]

Do you keep your level of MG when swappign to COF but lose all favor?

[tawny ferry]

listing decent exalted items for 100-200k on mass and maybe selling some now and then is definitly my choice over wasting 4200k favour a pop on maybe good, maybe exalted items on mid Item bases. Both listing useless stuff for 0g and gambling has 0 benefit except for gaining rep

[drifting moon]

is it different maps in the empowered monoliths then the normal ones im doing a prophecy where i have too kill a certain enemy i found the map its in and what monolith but i cant find the map there.

[near bolt]

well I guess thats obvious but I was talking to him about the gambler "I'm legit thinking about just spending all my favor at this point just to progress. Probably gonna list every single unsellable ex/unique and set item. It feels so bad"

[compact turtle]

ive been there, dont spend literally everything, you'll have nothing left to buy stuff with

[icy marsh]

but remember youll have more than you know what to do with by the time you get to 400 corrupt

[tawny ferry]

If your only concern is favour to rep conversion fast i dont object but why not do something usefull with it at least?

[umbral drift]

cant we hide or show the specific uniques by their LP ?

[icy marsh]

need another brew someone come put kettle on

[earnest sapphire]

so to price an item u wanna sell, i first have to search the item manually on the AH to check market price? is there no better/faster way?

[tawny ferry]

gut feel and not worrying so much about mispricing ^^ on everything that isnt obviously huge like T7's. LP uniques ...

[earnest sapphire]

well, i just started MG so i dont really have a feel for the market at all 😄

[icy marsh]

so many lp uniques are 0 gold atm theres no way to get an accurate bloody price xD

[tawny ferry]

i mean that in the broadest way possible. ah turquise ring with physical res, decent base, maybe usable mod -> 200k maybe it sells, probably not, but if you list enough something will

[icy marsh]

most of the stuff im putting up with t6+ decent roll is around 200k tbf

[earnest sapphire]

makes sense, ill do that

[tawny ferry]

I just put in random 6 digit numbers and forget about it xD works fine for passive income

[misty summit]

can you filter idols in bazaar by type like small or huge?

[tawny ferry]

i havnt found that option at least 😦

[icy marsh]

i subscribe to this

[remote orbit]

don't they have specific names like "ornate" or "adorned" etc? I don't remember which ones are which though, but like the 2x1 vertical ones are Lagonian I think?

[tawny ferry]

yeah but the drop down menu isnt there for idols, that or im blind

[misty summit]

yeah its awful when I see bunch of small ones when I needed adorned

[remote orbit]

oh weird, i just checked and yeah you can't

[icy marsh]

towns are laggy af for me rn

[coarse cape]

anyone selling immolators oblation

[fresh plover]

ya there are plenty on the market listed

[median elm]

You basically just sell any decent purple for 100-200k ? Is that the strategy

[icy marsh]

nah i'd say whar ezo said is the strategy, just smash your face on 6 digits and post it

[jovial raft]

Trying to search for % increased health idols and there's no results. Are these selling fast or am I searching wrong

[icy marsh]

but yes as rule of thumb sell your good t6+ at 200k and your t7 closer to 500k

[median elm]

People gain enough gold to buy these ? Game generates enough?

[fresh plover]

i sell for 100-300k and even then people dont buy everything, 500k is too much unless its class specific affixes

[icy marsh]

some purples are really good intrinsicly and others will be used for legendaries if they have good affixes. its up to you to know the difference and charge accordingly

[median elm]

I have no idea about legendaries either. You take the affix from a purple and put it in a LP is that it ? So people will buy the purple for the affix

[icy marsh]

misha has more experience than me so thats good info too

[fresh plover]

also all dex gear sellls for a lot now, so look for that, easy 300k+ for t6

[median elm]

Forged or with forging potential ?

[tawny ferry]

you can either be a god gamer and know how good every mod combination is atm, dont sell pretty much anything, sit there for 5h pricechecking everything or you just get a bit wreckless with the pricing. Your definetly not selling every item you put up for 6 digit numbers but plenty enough do to get a passive income.

[fresh plover]

for forging u need to craft gg gear for ballista/tesla balls builds if u know how to do it

[icy marsh]

3 top tier affixes with enough forging potential to allow the buyer to apply their own final affix will sell well

[median elm]

Well I'm not far enough I think to gain enough favour to sell a lot anyway, I'll try to just price and sell good bases with some Dex or int I guess

[icy marsh]

700 favor to post an exalted, you'll make plenty as you play

[median elm]

Exalted = purple right

[tawny ferry]

yes

[icy marsh]

set a filter to look for t6 and t7 exalted and just check whatever drops from that if youre still early days

[median elm]

Purple starts at T5 right, so filter to see t6+

[tawny ferry]

starts at t6 for the exalted mod

[icy marsh]

at least 1 affix t6 or above and select a bunch of good, generic affixes that can be used on any class

[median elm]

Exalted = t6 or above and it's in the name ?

[icy marsh]

keep playing and adjust that filter accordingly as you go. dont get too bogged down as youll find the better stuff later in the end game anyway

sounds about right to me

[drifting moon]

is it different maps in the empowered monoliths then the normal ones im doing a profecy where i have too kill a certain enemy i found the map its in and what monolith but i cant find it there.

[icy pilot]

Can somebody from MG invite me to a party so I can TP there? TTyronE ingame

[hollow briar]

Are you able to trade boss uniques with Merchants Guild?

[tawny ferry]

yes

[split wave]

Yeah, the maps are different. The CF channel might know better how to proc the specific prophecies.

[jade stump]

merchants say "shred on armor" doesnt exists for 1-handed axes. Is this a glitch? I need T7 on my unique axe

[tawny ferry]

known bug, armor shred dissapeared somehow

[mint flower]

guys all my levels on factions are gone is this normal?

everything gone actually wtf

[dense panther]

Anyone want to sell me an idol with elemental resistance while transformed and health percent affix. All the ones on market are like 500k oof.

[dense panther]

When I get on tonight I can.

[viscid breach]

can anyone help tell me if my items are worth anything on the market? please

[obsidian flower]

fastest way to farm favor?

[viscid breach]

please dm me if you are familiar with prices or items that go for something

[terse anvil]

kill stuff

[obsidian flower]

thanks capt obvious

[terse anvil]

u asked lmao

[placid merlin]

Kill stuff fastest as you can

[granite lagoon]

lol non lp paranois are way more expensive than 1 lp paranoias 😅

[winged sparrow]

Welcome to the noonecanbuyit club, ppl switch to CoF before lvl 8 since it takes way too long and feels very bad, so no one actually buys lp items kekw

[serene orchid]

So merchant's guild is better for late endgame, but there is no late endgame? Got it... CoF it is!

[granite lagoon]

Yeah i mean it depends on how much you want to play. I think the market opens at at lvl 7 not 8. When you can buy fitting exhalts

[trail arch]

im level 91 and still no lvl 7 sadge

[cursive solstice]

spend your favorrr

[tulip finch]

are there any loot filters for expensive items?

[granite lagoon]

Im lvl 94 and just only got 7

[granite lagoon]

Yeah, put the "hide all 34 item types" at the bottom and then leave it at that

[obsidian flower]

im 95 and almost 7

[tulip finch]

🫠

[granite lagoon]

😅 I'm doing it the simple way show uniques and certain 6 ex on bases I want and I recolor every tier 7 ex and double tier 6 ex

[glass narwhal]

can dm me your filter

[trail arch]

I spent all my favour and still level 6 at 91

[oak horizon]

I recommend that you manually level up your merchant level. Favor is really important especially when you are trying to have your exalted BIS gears. It's a pain to forge it, so you are going to need a lot of favor, and gold.

[obsidian flower]

so, should you kill everything in an echo or just get done as fast as possible to grind favor?

[oak horizon]

Just do it fast until you reach orobys to up your corruption.

[split wave]

Kill stuff while you rush

[ancient sparrow]

Kinda ridiculous that im 92 and barely got to rank 6. Cant imagine when is rank 7. Too slow imo, by the time i get there most likely almost 100...

[tiny spire]

honestly I like how it's slow

[remote orbit]

Got another perfect roll idol. Primalist crit multi while transformed and cold/lightning damage, just sold it

[compact turtle]

i made it to 8 with having lvl88 and lvl93 chars, but 9-10 personally not that exciting, perfectly slammed leggies gonna be rare and insanely priced

[barren gust]

Save your favorrrr

[jovial raft]

I'm disconnecting every time I try to tele to the bazaar. That happening to any of you all?

[jade kindle]

im 100 and i just hit lvl 9...

[brazen pebble]

Level 9>10 was s 1.5m reputation, whaaaaat

[proud flower]

Ez

[alpine nest]

So you guys think red ring will become cheaper or more expensive the longer into the cycle we get?

[sick wasp]

Can anyone let me know how much LP2+ Fiery Dragon Shoes cost, and maybe a rough idea of what kind of time that would take to afford? I'm CoF just now and wondering if it would be worth swapping.

[frail shard]

7 around 200k-250k

[midnight fable]

I wish I could see other players at thte bazaar

[alpine nest]

Will high demand rare items like red ring or bastion of honor increase or decrease over time in price?

[fluid grail]

https://imgur.com/DPLkrYo Anyone know worth of this thing right here? Cant seem to find reference of price since there is 0 avaliable
2/3 1-2% Off of Max Roll + 4LP Murama's Hilt

[sick wasp]

Cheers

[frail shard]

Hard to say. If it was pure economics it would decrease due to increased supply but sometimes prices are sticky because people view those items as rare. Looking at the omnis amulet is a good example of this 26 pages and the lowest still isn't that low.

[severe fern]

is chains of uleros a good unique?

[brazen pebble]

2lp omnis - 100m jeez

[sturdy star]

so MG has been great for trying out new builds - just buying and crafting what i need.. but i cant help but feel like the actual game is less fun because of it, since you dont find as much loot and you cant have the gameplay of the prophecies

[brazen pebble]

Idk - I found multiple red rings, 1lp Omnis, 1lp Ocearon, all that kind of rare stuff but I cannot find common uniques with LP I need. So MG makes every drop useful, not like when you drop red ring and like - “nah, whatever, cannot@use it anyway”

[alpine nest]

Thanks 🙂 my thought was maybe people will later minmax or realize how good these rings are but I hope you're right and they decrease in price :p

[lone ruin]

do market shared between server? or each server has their own listing?

[solid otter]

merchants guild item listing aren't shared on hc/sc, right?

[severe fern]

is harthenon vow a good item to sell? dropped at lp3

[frail shard]

FYI, just finished leveling a single character up to 100 it only gets you to rank 9 in merchant's guild.

[pastel crypt]

hey guys, how are you guys trading 5 mod items? are you just posting them somewhere else and trading directly?

[split wave]

The gold cost will probably go up with inflation

[weak atlas]

so cof is better for now?

[fringe condor]

cof will always be better, trading sucks because of loosers buying gold. the lower will be the black market gold price, the higher will be the good items as in every MMOs

[mint coyote]

is gambling worth it? seems expsnive

[fringe condor]

it's not except using the NPC at the end of the dung

[wet totem]

How much would be worth a ring with +11dex

[alpine vale]

what you guys think for merchant guild so far good for endgame or better cof?

[earnest ether]

did anyone do some research and see what are the items that are selling really? so we can start making money 😄 ?

[feral bloom]

CoF is better imo. Easier to level and you’re able to get good rewards from the prophecies even at low CoF ranks.

[alpine vale]

Is there a way to see what is valuable?

[normal roost]

T7 exalted (some of them), T6 Exalted (some of them), good Idols and some uniques. Also something like +1/2/3/4 skills, like +3 Ballista is worth 1 mil

[alpine vale]

So just keep track on exalted

[twin hollow]

Is ring of the third eye used in any meta builds? I just sold a 4lp one for almost 5m in less than an hour lol, I didn't expect it to sell that fast

[alpine vale]

For endgame faster build up cof or merchant is it easy to farm gold in cof since we need lot of tabs

[tiny spire]

COF didn't help for boss drops though, I killed fire lich 10 times and no belt drop. MG member can easily buy one.

[lone perch]

Mg is better cause you can dupe stuff

[alpine vale]

true

but hard so many items to know i deleted 30 tabs but i guess later on they will make easier to search items now too slow to check for stats

[lime crag]

Bro how do you get to rank 7, I wanna switch to COF I need to buy tier 7 items but need rank 7 for it and am struggling to rank at all

[tiny spire]

You can't use other faction items

[fresh plover]

lvl 100 literally the start of endgame in le, its reached in 2-3 days and not a milestone or anything, you get it fast by just playing

[fresh plover]

thats some really cooked take, i have better gear than any of cof people that i know, full inventory of 3lp rare uniques and stash with double exalteds that i dont even need but bought just because they are op, if u think cof is better idk what to tell u, you are just wrong

[junior niche]

I go cof to farm gold then buy things I want at MG.

[small jay]

?? Lol...

[junior niche]

😂

[small jay]

That sounds legit badass man. No really it does.

[hallow cliff]

Hi..newbie here.. quick question..Im planning to targrt farm oeak of the mountain with 3LP.. can I just stick to T2 or T3 dungeon? I read that other parts are drop at higher tier but only need the helm..

[errant kite]

price check on this neat armor ?
aarons will 2 lp ! !

[cyan flicker]

anyone have a list of items that are valuable?

[gentle lagoon]

Guys, what +skill level affixes on helms or ither gear pieces are valuable even as T3-T5? I think Ballista is one of them

[errant kite]

just look for very rare drop chance , those are worth alot .

[winged depot]

how do listing items at MG work? do i get favor and rep just for listing or also for selling it to someone else?

[tall acorn]

anyone knows how to search for armor shred at amulet vendor? the option doesnt seem to be there for me

[errant kite]

press advanced

[gentle lagoon]

they forgot to add it

[blissful ermine]

any1 have google doc with most popular items and price?

[tall acorn]

any way of notifiying devs of that issue?

[gentle lagoon]

in-game bug report

[winged depot]

anyone?

[tall acorn]

i think its only for listing

[glass narwhal]

yea u still need to kill mobs for gaining favours

[grim flint]

Hey guys , DM me if u are interested in a complete pricelist of all Uniques ingame . 🙂 (spent 4 hours to look up every Uniques min. LP and min. WW req to be worth something). Keep up the Grind my guys and enjoy ur Weekend ❤️

[eternal breach]

how do you search for idols? no matter which affixes I select it says "no results"

ah, it's and "AND" when pressing multiple ...

[quiet oxide]

https://imgur.com/a/wEyRdFu jesus christ, it even rolls perfect

[primal timber]

what happens to your stuff listed for sale if you leave MG

[sonic venture]

"Operation failed. Bazaar is currently having issues"

Does this happen often? XD

[elfin lily]

Any acolyte minion gear?

[stiff ember]

Does anyone know if I use a rune of creation on an item, can it still be sold at the bazaar?

[daring glacier]

Can anyone help me? I tried to sell an item I just looted, but it says that I cannot list untradable items. I chose Merchant's Guild from the start, rank 3 right now, and never left the faction.

[ionic pulsar]

around this hour yea pretty often xD

[wet totem]

Some item are untradable
Idk the why but it just is

Your rank is irrelevent to sell items
Only to buy

[daring glacier]

All the items I picked up are untradable.

[arctic pebble]

then you are in the wrong faction

[daring glacier]

I'm in the Merchant faction. I chose the Merchant faction from the beginning and never left.

[arctic pebble]

then its a bug... i only get untradable items with my twink on fortune faction

[tawny ferry]

do the unsellable items youve got have some kind of text or symbol rigth next to the character level requirement? if not idk either, sry ^^

[daring glacier]

Nope, nothing.

[tawny ferry]

have you created an offline char by accident? xD my last Clue because i have no idea what kind of error message the game sends you if you try to list an Item in Offline mode

[plain gust]

i think you can't use the Merchant on offline you can only choose the circle

[tawny ferry]

Good to know, I didnt know you couldnt even spec into MG

[daring glacier]

So if you're in the Merchant Guild, all the items you pick up are normally available for sale?

[tawny ferry]

yes

[daring glacier]

I even tried leaving and rejoining the faction, but still nothing...

[tawny ferry]

excluding some obvious exceptions like, keys, runes, glyphs etc and Legendary items you craft with either unique or exaltet with trade tag

[vital wasp]

im trying to sell items where i managed to seal a stat and the sealed stat doesnt even show up in the bazaar. how did they mess that up

is the idol search completly broken aswell?

[tawny ferry]

depends what you mean by completely, you have no option für idol type or stat ranges. broken but not as bad as sealed affixes

[wintry comet]

Trying to figure out the popular builds atm and it's kinda difficult sussing out what build these warlocks are doing. I'm guessing the current popular build isn't one of these maxroll builds, or is a variant of one of them...

[polar forum]

yeah I feel like I need to understand them more so I can sell more things to them 😂

[tulip finch]

man i hate that people are STILL placing offers for 0 gold

[weary rivet]

can i slam any 1 handed weapon on a 1handed unique?
like a exalted mace on a unique sword?

[brave tendon]

Sword to sword
Mace to mace

[narrow nacelle]

if everyone would do that the marked would be much better off. why do you need gold if everything is free?

[glass narwhal]

so far i only sold a 80k gold weaver 10 acolyte relic

[brave tendon]

then what is the purpose of the market ?

[narrow nacelle]

thats the whole point? just share with eachother instead of being greedy, beat the system! instead

[alpine vale]

Anyone has any pricing guide?

[drifting crest]

Do you have to sell stuff to get XP or can I just buy?

[cobalt locust]

MG needs to be fixed next cycle seriously

[tawny ferry]

listing grants xp, selling none. buying grants xp too, everything thats spends favour does

[drifting crest]

Thanks

[cyan widget]

Can we say that MG is drastically better than COF just because in the ladder there are a lot more players playing MG than COF or it's just wrong?

[cobalt locust]

MG is stronger for sure, but the mechanics of it are operating counterintuitively

[tawny ferry]

MG is stronger once you reach certain rep levels. I dont think more regular players go for MG at the moment tho.

[normal roost]

It’s not how you should make an analysis. Ladder means nothing because there are a lot of players that don’t like playing arena

[mint ibex]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[tawny ferry]

also, ladder doesnt factor in Offline Players at all. I imagine everybody who wanted to play CoF just went for offline mode due to launch day problems and now the ladder is flooded with trade players who had no choice but to wait for online

[fallen tulip]

Nah ... 11k favor for a Lp2 weapon is too damn high.
What's the point of selling items if you can't spend the gold because of favor bottleneck?

[gentle lagoon]

11k is like 15 minutes at 250 corruption

[tawny ferry]

yeah favour bottleneck reverses actually with high enough corruption

[light rivet]

Yea im playing age of winter mono corruption 480 and im getting like 40k favor every hr 🤪

[fluid grail]

Sold in the end for 10 Mil, couldve maybe went higher 😄

[light rivet]

Pretty sure u can get banned for that 🤔 duping items isn't allowed enless its with rune of creation

[static plinth]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, it's technically against TOS probably. If this keeps occurring within the MG guild, in the future, fewer folks will respect that faction, imo...

[light rivet]

Yupper some people give merchants guild a bad name

[fluid moss]

how do you guys go about pricing something if there's nothing better in the market already?

[light rivet]

U can make your own but check what stats are meta/good for classes then u could be making millions

[fluid moss]

https://imgur.com/a/UsBKIjs good rolls all around lmao

[vital wasp]

Can experimental Stars Carry over when Fusing items?

[narrow nacelle]

MAKE ALL ITEMS FREE BREAK THE SYSTEM! 😄

[normal roost]

Exactly. Other than that there are a lot of good player, Fubgun for example, that is 1700corrupt, that is not playing arena because he doesn’t like it, so watching ladder and assume that one faction is better than the other is wrong because there is no mathematical method around that.

Another point; let’s take for example the Blast Rain Marksman build, in order to progress and go from the mid game build to the end game build you basically need 3/4 pieces T7 exalted, and you can only buy them at level 7, so in order to progress you still need to adjust your equip until you reach that step and it’s not that easy if you are a newbie.

[teal atlas]

am i the only one having "bazaar is currently having issues" error ?

[alpine nest]

what timeline has the best unique nodes? like unique relics, blood frost and death having the unique chest armor. like which type of uniques will make the most profit

[outer fern]

u can check in internet there are diffrent unique to difftend monolit

[alpine nest]

mhm id like to know which item type has the most amount of valuable uniques

[outer fern]

only with 2-4 potential have any valu

[tawny ferry]

its hard to judge because its not only about the amount of good items but also the drop chance and value on the market. personally i farm reign of dragons for daggers, but i have no clue what is optimal

[alpine nest]

mhm i see .. think ill need to do some research then haha

[outer fern]

yea it's depends from someone build but higher potential = more gold and most selling will be weapons ofc of lvl 6 merchang guild

[alpine nest]

aight thanks

[lime oasis]

How active would yall say the MG is? If i lets say have a LP 2 Cleavers solution will that insta sell for a decent amount? Or is the market already oversaturated

[tawny ferry]

youll definetly get rid of good uniques with lp, maybe not insta

[lime oasis]

Can anybody link me an item they sold for the most amount of gold

[cyan widget]

800k is mine, t6 exalted ballista

[alpine hound]

honestly there is no point to having gold besides opening storage people that are posting things for more than half a million are just greedy

[tawny ferry]

18 million, large idol with 7% health, 13% ele res. (no typo)

[remote orbit]

18 million? or 1.8?

[tawny ferry]

I disagree

[remote orbit]

gold number going up gives me dopamine

[light rivet]

There are some crazy rare items at higher corruption that are worth millions

[tawny ferry]

Gold can have Value to buy gg items without the existance for any ingame Use. Just in the Same way that paper money can be used to buy expensive stuff without beeing worth something itself

[remote orbit]

Oh I just saw the no typo part, damn that's wild.

[charred talon]

What is no typo ?

[tawny ferry]

Yeah, people pay crazy amounts for the right Idol mods and rolls

[hardy bolt]

Is the baazar down for anyone else?

[remote orbit]

No grammar mistake, I asked if they meant 1.8 million instead.

[compact patio]

Medium items sell after a bit, I posted a lot of crap for random prices and they sell sooner or later. If you post random rare belt with T5 affix which can you craft yourself you won’t get 1 milion for that. Good items and idols sell for a lot.

[tawny ferry]

3/4 of my item filter is Idol stuff, i dont even have any rules for regular gear piece affixes

[remote orbit]

Damn I sold a perfect roll hammerdin idol for a million (I saw a 1 percent off one for 850k so took a guess). Maybe I could've gotten a lot more

[compact patio]

Idols are best bet now, most loot filters are made for ssf play and only show items for your class.

[tawny ferry]

the build specific Idols already sell for much less than something as generic as life res. that said hammerdin is heavily reliant on them, i couldnt tell if yours was a bargain or not

[remote orbit]

True, I think I sold a double health idol for 1 million. Wasn't perfect rolls though

[grave roost]

Yeah I got the error "The bazaar is currently having issues"

[tawny ferry]

also, alot of the maxroll Guides are packed to brim with large life res idols

[strong crater]

is there any notification when you sell stuff or does gold just get moved to your inventory?

[pulsar sedge]

Is there a way to fix merchant guild market keeps saying no results found

[remote orbit]

There's a notification when you press Y on the bottom left of the menu. It'll tell you items sold. Then you gotta talk to the stall guy to claim it.

Seems bazaar is down right now though

[tulip finch]

bazaar having issues

[tawny ferry]

you get notified only when you open the faction window with "y" and you have to redeen the sold item at the bazaar. its extremely annoying to find the sold items in 6 pages of listed items sometimes because they arent ordered

[strong crater]

I see, thanks

[vast coyote]

why the hell do people list their items for 0 gold on the bazaar? it appears that all items worth 0 except perhaps some unique with 3+ LP?

[tulip finch]

yeah idk man they think they onyl get rep for selling

[tawny ferry]

Misunderstanding that sales generate xp or lack of care for quick favour to rep conversion

[raven sentinel]

because you get the reputation as soon as you list an item or spend spend favor

[remote orbit]

There's no point in listing for 0 though, you only get rep for the initial listing. Not when it's bought.

[vast coyote]

is there any exalted item that has some gold value?

[tawny ferry]

many. Only a small Portion of my listed exalts are getting bought, but if they do its in the 6 digits. I sell like 10-20 a day

[raven sentinel]

yeah but people are listing items that are relatively worthless for 0 for the favor to rep conversion

[remote orbit]

Why not just gamble then, the rep gain is the same.

[shadow kindle]

You'll get much more rep when buying items from MG vendor. Like x3 gain from Favors spend

[vast coyote]

are those with 4 perfect stats I guess? or 1 tier 6 for +1 to skills? I can't research on the bazaar now with the issues it has

[tawny ferry]

just T6 drops with logical sounding combinations on decent bases. And looooots of them. List a ton, sell a few, still a decent profit in the end

[near wharf]

Single high demand or rare t7s are worth quite a bit. Experimental aswell

[tulip finch]

i sold a t6 axe for 450k, had a good base/stat combination
https://i.imgur.com/jlFaFNS.png

[tawny ferry]

yeah something like that is a good example

[remote orbit]

Good lich axe? I never played Lich, but that's the first thing to come to mind

[near wharf]

%crit, hybrid health, +skills for slams too

[tulip finch]

yeah same, i figured it would be for lich too but idk

when will they fix bazaar? zzz

[tawny ferry]

I show all T6 items with good bases. gloss over them during mapping. pick up ones with decent looking stats. stash them and then list them in bulk for random 6 digit number just by gut feel

[remote orbit]

I need to add item bases to my filter, I'm lazy.

[vast coyote]

I'm thinking to list everything for the same 6 digit number

[tawny ferry]

200-300k seems to be a great price for decent T6's

[tulip finch]

operation failed
Bazaar is currently having issues

🫠 🫠 🫠

[tacit anchor]

bazaar issues LOL even no issues bazaar already died. trade ui so teribble and only gear can sold. if some consumable can sold there maybe bazaar will be good

[vast coyote]

I'm bored to research all of my exalted one by one or even look at them

[signal idol]

oh that's why i got no sales for a while

[tawny ferry]

yeah thats the point of what im doing, i dont research, i dont know what these items are worth, im just wreckless with the pricing and the amount of listed items and it works out fine somehow 😄 Edit, i did a bit of research frontloaded to determine good item bases for the lootfilter

[remote orbit]

Do low level items sell okay? Like for alts? I haven't tried, but I figure some people might want to buy to do the dungeon skips

[vast coyote]

is your lootfilter for every build/class though?

[tawny ferry]

yeah

[spiral birch]

if i switch to MG from CoF, do I start from lvl 0?

[remote orbit]

You have to grind the reputation afaik yes

[tawny ferry]

yes

[compact patio]

I changed to loot filter like that and it’s much better. I am pretty restrictive.

[spiral birch]

dang

[pastel trout]

Hey merchant peeps - I'm currently CoF and contemplating the swap now I'm at the late game to merchants guild. Can someone tell me is there's a rough price for Exsanguinous with 3 LP? Just want a rough idea on prices to grind up some gold before thinking about the swap

[vast coyote]

can you share it? yeah lootfilter should focus on gold making now rather than your class

[compact patio]

Last epoch tools, loot filters there is endgame one for newest patch

[tawny ferry]

cheapest ones are 14-15m

[rigid jolt]

Just make another character and trade through that one

[tulip finch]

not being able to filter on specific % values is traaash

[pastel trout]

Thanks @tawny ferry .

@rigid jolt does it work on character basis like this? I thought it was an account wide choice

[remote orbit]

I just followed ZiggyD's loot filter video, and made conditions for valuable items. It would be nice though if you could check like "high rolled affixes" or something though

[quiet zodiac]

comparing and filtering is so bad for mg...please let us filter directly from our inventory..

[remote orbit]

They said in the dev stream yesterday they're adding more quality of life and search functions I think, might not be till next cycle though.

[tulip finch]

ooh nice

[quiet zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HY5Giy0UBU

[grim flint]

Hey guys , DM me if u are interested in a complete pricelist of all Uniques ingame . 🙂 (spent 4 hours to look up every Uniques min. LP and min. WW req to be worth something). Keep up the Grind my guys and enjoy ur Weekend ❤️

[quiet zodiac]

also letting us filter items via loot filter would even be better

[rigid jolt]

yes mate, it works

[dim cargo]

why do people still sell item for 0 gold lol

[remote orbit]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[outer oxide]

There's so many lol

[dim cargo]

yeah and the thing is, there is no advantage to it

[distant fable]

Guys, if we buy item lets say for 10k favor, we gonna get 20k reputation or more? Im asking because gambling /vendor - making x2 reputation /cost favor. Can some one advice? And if yes, what type base item is best for gambling to get some expensive unique etc, got around 90k favour. Thanks

[outer oxide]

At first I think people were just pumping their reputation to get through the ranks by getting extra sales, but I feel like favor still limits it a lot. Problem is I dont think there is an expiration timer on the listings, but I could be wrong

[vast coyote]

the gambling vendor is the one that sells the unidentifieds?

[dim cargo]

thee thing is, you don't get more reput if you spend your favor selling items, you are better off gamling the favor lol

[distant fable]

ye

[outer oxide]

Right, gambling seems to be the way lol

[vast coyote]

I ask because there are dice vendors too or something and there isnt one on mg

[outer oxide]

It's the lady at the center(or where you port)

[spiral birch]

anyone know how much are uncummon 3 LP boss specific uniques? thinking of switching from cof to mg (on legacy)

[eternal breach]

What do I do when the bazaar doesnt work? "currently having issues"

[dim cargo]

if you think about switching to mg to get items with 3 lp or more, just know that you need rank 8 with merchant guild to buy items that have LP (and it's very time consuming to get to rank 8)

[remote orbit]

Submit a bug report in game I guess, that's what Averielle told me. And then hope they sort it out.

[dim cargo]

restart the game

[eternal breach]

I did, but Im apparently not the only one with the problem

[spiral birch]

ya, i guess it depends how expensive an item is and how long it takes to grind up to it. Right now on CoF, it's impossible to get boss specific uniques from prophecies...wish they wouldve told you that

[worthy current]

is MG doom guys? i cant see anything

[unique void]

Everyone saying the same thing in general, seems like it

[covert grail]

bazaar is down?

[compact turtle]

down for me

[wicked hull]

down for me too.

[paper matrix]

Me too

[molten spindle]

dogshit game 2 weeks and can't have functioning servers

[jade summit]

If u can do it better, go ahead 😛

[light rivet]

i havent had any issues probs your own computer lmfao

[slender harbor]

For me the Bazar UI is very huge and I can see not all of it. Any ideas? Looks like it scales wrong.

[compact patio]

There is option to have list

[slender harbor]

Thanks but I've tried and some parts of the UI are still Off screen

[tiny spire]

Search not working too well?

[potent fjord]

How much for Talons of Valor 3 LP?

[half laurel]

its down?

[strong crater]

do you get rep from spending favor on the bazaar?

[half laurel]

y

[strong crater]

oh I have 42k so maybe I should just waste it on some 0 gold items? :d

[light rivet]

40kfavor will give u around 100k rep at the gambler in the bazzar

[strong crater]

can that actually yield good items?

[half laurel]

gamble gives more?

[light rivet]

i just waste it there instead of buying items i dont need atm lol i gain 40k favor in around 50 mins or less so its pretty quick

only been in MG for 3 days and im almost lvl 9 wooo

[half laurel]

how u farmed rep so fast?

[compact patio]

Don’t say it here, casuals are going to murder you. What corruption you are doing ?

[stone vale]

gambler dont give more contrary to popular belief, it's always 2 per favor gain/spent

[quasi breach]

any one else getting error on the bazaar?

[light rivet]

gambling my favor away all the time haha and i farm on mostly 400+ corruption but rn im doing a diff mono to get its corruption up for differnet drop for more money haha

[remote orbit]

No, it's a visual bug. https://www.reddit.com/r/LastEpoch/comments/1b19ydx/comment/ksdyfaq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[upbeat jackal]

Does spending favor on gambling give me reputation aswell?

[remote orbit]

Each point of Favor spent always grants 2 Reputation, it doesn't matter if you spend your favor on listing/buying items, or using the Faction gambler.
Yes.

[light rivet]

400+ corruption mostly right now im getting another mono to 400

[tidal karma]

me

[quasi breach]

so its not just me...guess they are having weekend load issues

[tiny spire]

yup

[tidal karma]

i can't buy the core items to my build 😭

[peak sky]

I'm not one to stay on top of all meta builds and the items they need.
Does anybody know of items that I can consistently grind at lvl ~80 in normal monos and sell for a moderate amount of gold?
I'm looking to create or find a loot filter for casual money making.

[gaunt atlas]

bazaar dead agaain??? ugh

[quasi breach]

same problem. half way through a respec and no gear. not sure if we can report it some where

[peak sky]

I heard idols might be good to add to a money making loot filter. But I don't know which ones. Has anybody compiled lists of valuables somewhere?

[tiny spire]

Definitely suggest to do empowered for multiple reasons but in terms of farming:
rares and idols sell very well and are favor efficient. Certain skills, the usual health, resi and cdr mods
Weapons don't seem too hot and only the affixes are really important (also base ofc)

[west kiln]

I think weapons are not that hot as the actual good ones can only be bought on higher MG ranks

[south cave]

Working again for me. Edit : And gone xD

[candid oyster]

is merchants guild fun to play? does it feel good?

[slate canyon]

Baazar is literally down lol

[worthy current]

down for me too

[quasi breach]

depends on you definition of fun

1. merch - we like to buy the gear we want with slightly less options for somthings. we also like to make gold by working out if what we have has value then selling it
2. circle: like to grind endlesly for the hope of getting what they want. no item mangment or pages of stuff to sell just grind find and wear

whats fun to you

[tiny spire]

Only if you love the economy game but currently "not fun" for most people. It's very effective at gearing though

[slate canyon]

With prophs u can target farm and get more runes of creation (mirrors) I still think CoF is really strong for endgame. But yes some RNG and grind involved. But if you have to slam gear in both, CoF is almost better cuz like I said they can get more runes of creation.

[candid oyster]

Concise and to the point, thank you. I think making a filter and figuring out good bases would be super important to selling items. Are there limits on the amount of bazaar listings you can have or is just how much favor you require to list being the limiter?

[quasi breach]

the bottle neck at first is favour...but at higher levels you get a lot of it...i have a few pages of stuff up...some super cheap for moving income and other long term sells

[candid oyster]

awesome, I might go merchants cause I am use to the playstyle being from PoE. Thanks for taking time to answer man

[jade adder]

am i really supposed to click through all those menu's and things just to price check items? just swapped from CoF and the bazaar menu is a hot mess

[frozen rivet]

Hey i got a question about merchant guild, does Unique item buy on it are locked behind it if i cvhange faction later ?

[cyan widget]

This is completely different compared to POE though. Only sellable items are some T6 exalted, some T7 exalted, some uniques 1-4LP and some good idols

[compact patio]

Thought so, high corruption give a lot of favour 😄

[peak sky]

Thank you. I see. I'll wait till a loot filter is around with all the stuff.
Only reason why I'm not doing empowered btw. is because I don't know how to active it yet lol. In due time.

[wicked hull]

is it still down?

[compact patio]

CoF copium is strong 😆

[median elm]

Bazaar is buggy right ? Sometimes says no items

[alpine nest]

how do u guys make most of your gold ?

[brittle aurora]

Spam items into trade for random prices until zero favor.

[warm cradle]

Yea

[deep axle]

i was so excited to buy exalted items after reaching T7 but bazar shitted itself

[wicked hull]

we should have a Trade channel in here.

[gritty wolf]

bazaar dont work?

[median elm]

How do you get enough favours to sell everything ? I'm struggling

[gritty wolf]

cant find anything when use filters, always error "operation failed"

[tawny ferry]

farm a ton of empowered monolith and push corruption as high as possible without getting slow. At 300 corruption i have enough favour to buy and sell anything i want

[quasi breach]

no worries hope you make it rich quick 😉

[livid aspen]

man, grinding rep in the MG really takes too long

[tulip finch]

ye

[candid oyster]

grass is always greener on the other side

[livid aspen]

I have so many responses to that that will get me banned

[mossy grotto]

Thatjust means you arent grinding enough. Lvl8 doesnt take much at all

[tulip finch]

lol

[livid aspen]

also lol

[signal imp]

It's not hard to get great items in this game and I just find that a little unsatisfying

[tawny ferry]

lvl 8 is way to much grind for what it gives. buying exalts at lvl 94 is stupid

[livid aspen]

irrespective of how much you value your personal time, looking at how soon on simply a timeline of a league starter's leveling, you dont get ranks 7/8 soon enough

[mossy grotto]

people got lvl8 second day and level 8 lets you buy actual endgame items that just finishes your build

[tawny ferry]

I dont seem to be "people"

[tulip finch]

im lvl 91 and halfway to 7 lol

[still wren]

im alr rank 9 after 10 day of launch LOL

[surreal axle]

is there a way to check what builds are the most popular (like poeninja for poe) so I can tailor my loot filter properly for MG?

[livid aspen]

yeah, character level is a good metric, especially since progression in the faction is essentially exp based. if you want to make the argument that people should just take time off work instead of complain.... I have a few names for you

[void glade]

im rank 10took about 5 days farming 500+ corruption

[tawny ferry]

full grind taking 2 weeks, i dont even care. long term progression fine with me. something fundamental as buying exalts over a week into the game at corruption 300 .... doesnt seem too reasonable to me

[vast marten]

still down ????

[normal roost]

5 days for how many hours tho?

[light rivet]

🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯 🤯

[void glade]

probably about 50.

[still wren]

everything about warlock and falconer sell very well

[surreal axle]

any other builds i should look at?

[still wren]

any runemaster build, blade dancer shadow dagger build

[mossy grotto]

Considering that at rank 8 you have the ability to finish end game item progression, id say its pretty good.

[livid aspen]

what you call finishing I think most people call starting

[tawny ferry]

I feel neutral to lp uniques at rank 8 with the same amount of grind but rank 7 is bs

[mossy grotto]

I meanyou get to buy 4lp uniques and t7 exalted bases. What else do you need to finish builds?

[still wren]

ye rank 8 its very good stop point cause you can make buy anything unique lp and t7 exalted to craft your own legs.

[surreal axle]

ty

[jovial raft]

I spend some hours yesterday saving up to buy an Aaron's will for 1.7 million. I went to finally buy it, and someone had just posted one 3 minutes prior for 33k. The art of the deal lmao

[still wren]

you continuing buying stuff you will reach rank 9 and even you dont know bout it like i did LOL

[vapid flint]

Anyone else having problems at the bazaar buying stuff? keeps saying its having problems

[void glade]

on day 3 i bought a 3lp exsanginous for 0 gold lol

[mossy grotto]

Tbh the worst part of mg is reaching rank 10. Theres no benefit really, especially with howthey made it if you use a MG bought exalted base with a LP unique that you got as a drop, the resulted legendary cant be sold. So market just has no good legendaries

[still wren]

legs in market it just a failed crafted from other ppl

[signal idol]

add in the fact the only legendaries you can sell are the lp uniques and exalted you found yourself, any piece from the market will make it unsellable, lv 9-10 are basically useless (aside from weawer's will items i guess)

[tawny ferry]

You have a Gaping Hole in Gearprogression from like lvl 75 - 95 on MG Cycle Start and after that Rep doesnt even matter whatsoever for rank 9-10

[jovial raft]

What would be a normal price for a 2LP exsang? I probably underpriced mine

[fluid moss]

i remember that reddit post

[void glade]

yep that would be me. still farming the exalted chest for my dropped 3lp one

[coral tide]

anyone know if killing monster in high corruption monoliths give more favour?

[oblique oak]

is the bazaar search hosed? if i filter by opal rings, they show up. if i add any other filter (affix, rarity, etc) it shows no results found but there's a number that shows up that seems to indicate the quanityt available

[still wren]

1.6-3m

[tawny ferry]

it does, becuase favour and rep gain are tied to flat xp gain

[signal idol]

they do, cause of the xp% bonus

[void glade]

in in 550 atm and get 3-5 favor per kill. idk what it is in lower though

[coral tide]

cool thanks all

[mossy grotto]

Would be nice if we got some kind of favor sink once we are 10. Let us trade it for gold or something

[lofty marsh]

Just found a 3LP fang theres only 2 others in the market at 40mil

[void glade]

i would be more for expanding the bases the gambler can offer

[quasi breach]

i do hate to imagine what solutions they came up with to Market board DB. to scale to the unexpected large number of users who came to play the game

[brazen jolt]

Why does it say no results found, is it a bug?

[quasi breach]

bazaar down

[light rivet]

@indigo grail ty for your hard work

[quaint totem]

just got to fraction, does fraction matter much ?

[pliant pier]

Bazaar down?

[quasi breach]

yes

[livid aspen]

considering they dont let auctions expire?
probably they didnt

[opal thistle]

Getting the same issue, can't search for anything

Logging out and back in resolved it for me

[quasi breach]

not just that...unlimited postings, favor allowing...i also dont think they expect as many players to sign up to the game...nore do i think they expected so many of to join merchant faction...i got the impression circle was king for the 2 years of testing

[livid aspen]

do we have any idea how many people are actually in MG?

[remote orbit]

Dunno, CoF is more popular though

[quasi breach]

im a post launch player and all my friends are MG but that does not men anything

[tawny ferry]

It would surprise me if more than 20% of players are MG

[fallow socket]

MG is by far better than CoF in my mind, as you cant farm solo as much as 10k+ players can