#Is it normal for reverse cards to have the same information front and back?

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snow plaza
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I'm trying to change my existing cards from basic cards into reverse cards. When I change the card type the information is the same for the two new cards front and back. Is this correct? The card type is different but I was also expecting the card information to be flipped.

slim fox
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It's a little confusing how they named things, but effectively yes, that is normal.

Terminology:

  • A Note Type is a collection of fields (like a table in a database)
  • A Note has each of those fields filled out.
  • A Note Type can have associated with it 1 or more Card Templates, which tell Anki how to generate cards from each note.
  • A Card is a single question/answer pair, with a Front and a Back.
  • A Deck is a collection of Cards.

So what you did is changed the note into a different note type, which created two cards (but still just a single note). One of the cards shows the field "Front" on the front side of the card and shows both "Front" and "Back" on the back side. The other card shows the field named "Back" on the front of the card, and shows both fields "Back" and "Front" on the back side of the card.

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It's not uncommon in cases like that to make your own note type that's less confusing, with fields like "Portuguese" and "English" (and, often, "Extra" to show on the backs of both cards for mnemonics or notes or whatever else).

snow plaza
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Ah right, so it just shows you the back of the card when its reversed rather than putting the actual content on the back

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Thanks, I may have a look at creating my own note type. Thanks so much!

slim fox
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It's not hard at all. Tools/Manage Note Types/Add, and you can start by copying Basic and Reversed (or whatever it's called) and renaming things. Personally, I always add an Extra field to pretty much everything, even if it usually goes unfilled.

snow plaza
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Sorry, another question sice you suggested it. I made a new note type which is the basic reverse just wth different field names but the card type shows as Card type 1? It looks like it is using my note type as the field names have changed

slim fox
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Hit the Cards button. You can edit the card templates there, and under "Options" (top right dropdown) you can rename the templates.

snow plaza
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Ah nice, thanks! I added the extra field, and this shows on both front and back? That will be helpful for putting how to pronounce words

slim fox
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By default, it doesn't (adding a field doesn't change your templates). But you can edit the templates to include it on the back of each card, and I recommend it.

kind lintel
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question

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How does anki reset ur cards Daily?

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i ve been using this premade deck for sometime

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and it just gives me the same words everyday

slim fox
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(You could also add another field specifically for pronunciation, and then add that wherever you want for your templates. You could even add a card type specifically to test pronunciation.)

kind lintel
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i thought it was 40 new cards a day

slim fox
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Every day, you should see however many new cards you set as the New Cards limit, and whatever other cards are due. What do you have as learning steps? (Actually, if you could paste a screenshot of your deck options that might help.)

kind lintel
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so im confused on pretty much everything

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here xalbo

slim fox
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Those settings look good, although you could probably remove the second learning step. With it, cards that you initially rate as "Good" you'll see again in 10 minutes, and cards that you initially rate as "Again" you'll see in 1 minute. If you have just a single learning step, that works for "Again" and anything you rate as "Good" moves on to later (about 2–4 days, if I'm reading your FSRS parameters correctly).

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But you should be seeing 40 new cards each day, as well as any that are due for review.

kind lintel
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and this deck is supposed to have alot of cards

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also alot of subdecks

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theres also one called part 2 not sure if i should read that

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u download it seperatley

slim fox
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Oh, one thing: you have the same settings on each of the decks and subdecks. So depending on where you study from, you'll see the 40 card limit applied multiple times, if that makes sense. Studying from "5000 Most Common French Words" will only show you 40 new cards total, not 40 from each of the subdecks.

kind lintel
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so its divided between the decks 💀 ?

slim fox
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Yes. It's common to make a separate preset for parent decks that has 9999 new cards limit, and then set a real limit at the lowest subdeck level only.

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(Or just set the limits per deck instead of at the preset).

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I don't really know how that deck is meant to be used. Looks like it's got a complicated structure.

kind lintel
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and its meant for beginners

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😭

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like bro how ami supposed to figure this out

slim fox
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I think they intend you to study from the 1.a.I French to English (Start here) deck. Not sure. This is why I tend to hate pre-made decks, but I understand that they're an easy way to get a lot of things in. I just don't trust them if I don't build them myself.

kind lintel
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People Often Tell you to make decks

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but im not sure what to include

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Also how will the new words System work

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when ur creating decks

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and have little to no cards

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and do i include grammar or do i memorize the grammar seperatley

slim fox
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I don't actually use Anki for language learning, so you might get better advice for that somewhere else. But I think the general idea is often to learn from some other source (a textbook, a course, whatever) and to add cards to Anki for everything you learn, to help you remember it later. Especially for things like grammar. But I understand for vocabulary there isn't as much discrete learning, and there's more just memorization.

kind lintel
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u cant learn a language purely from anki

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but i need to figure out what to exactly put

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also read my past questions if u can

slim fox
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When you study from a deck, Anki pulls cards directly inside that deck and inside all of its subdecks. The limits of both apply, so if you study from "5000 Most Common French Words", you'll only get 40 new cards, drawn from the subdecks (assuming all the cards are actually in the subdecks and not the parent). If you study from a subdeck, only the limits for that subdeck (and any subdecks further down) apply. Am I making sense?

kind lintel
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okay so

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if the cards are in the parent

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ill get 40 cards TOTAL

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across my Subdecks

slim fox
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As far as what to put, I know there are a lot of people asking for language learning advice on https://www.reddit.com/r/Anki/. I'd probably try to look through there, because I really don't have expertise on it.

kind lintel
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if their in the subdecks

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ill get cards for each subdeck

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personally

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40 Each

kind lintel
slim fox
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It matters where the cards are, but it also matters where you study from. Which deck you click on to start studying. That's where the limits are applied from.

kind lintel
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all 5000

slim fox
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Anki is used for anything people want to remember. I use it for general knowledge, professional knowledge, programming, personal information ("What's Jason's mother's name?"), all sorts of things.

kind lintel
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jasons mother would be sad btw

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💀

slim fox
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Click the deck and go to Browse. You should be able to see all the cards, and which decks they actually live in

snow plaza
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I have used Anki for language learning for about 5 months now and the best advice I can give you is anytime you come across a word you don't know look it up and then make it into a sentence and add that sentence into Anki. Definitely use reverese cards so you practice both ways

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Adding sentences over just the word make sure you can actually use the sentence or at least have a better chance. In portuguese it's a bit harder because of conjugations but that's a language specific thing

slim fox
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And I just now noticed that I've been talking to two people at once. Sorry for confusing you with each other, I didn't read the names.

snow plaza
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Anyways, this has moved way past the original topic so I suggest it either moves into a channel or a new thread is opened.

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No worries

snow plaza
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Maybe #language-learning?

kind lintel
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yeah sorry that channel is DEAD

kind lintel
snow plaza
kind lintel
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what are reverse cards,Do i make a card for the word and a card with a sentence,Where do i store These Cards For anki to pull out 40 everyday

snow plaza
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When you add a card just choose the "basic(and reversed card) and it'll create two for you

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it will default to whatever type you select btw

snow plaza
kind lintel
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lemme talk w u in a channel rq

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