[solved] FSRS `preset` ui confusion

[shell yew]

i was using lerning step 25m, that's all and after i recently used optimize all presets . I am getting 1.7 months when card is in learning step. is this right? even after getting optimized it shouldn't be this far. In FSRS docs --> Q6: My first interval is too long! Is this normal? but i feel like mine is way too much long. Also read Q18 but wanted your advice.

Plese read the following two question before answering this as they will give more context.

After reading them here's more info -->

I moved some decks from CSE to Programs. Could this have created problem?

So after i read the docs from FSRS, and i have some doubts about its ui including the question above.

As seen in screenshot above i have 4 anki presets.

In the two screenshot you can see preset Default and Utility. What i am confused about is the preset:Default" -is:suspended part.

It is showing same for both my Default andUtility preset.

I have two major decks .. CSE and Programs.

Under CSE -- there are C++, Network, Operating system.

Under programs -- there are Bash, Systemd How linux works Linux systemadministration Vim

In your experience should i merge them with having same preset?

[random swallow]

Your first 4 parameters (which control the first intervals) are pretty damn big, for both presets. There are 3 explanations:

1. Your material is super easy
2. Your memory is very good
3. You have been misusing Hard - pressing "Hard" when you forgot the card.

If it's 3, here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Anki/s/BeIlD6QMY4

[shell yew]

Thanks i also think its 3rd.

[shell yew]

any thoughts about this

[shell yew]

and this

[random swallow]

-is:suspended is always shown

For any preset

[shell yew]

what about preset:Default

its showing in every preset .. irrespective of there actual name

like in utility preset, i am seeing preset:Default

[random swallow]

That means you have somehow screwed up applying presets to your decks. I am not sure how, I've never encountered such an issue before

[random swallow]

It's up to you. If you think the material is very similar, then use the same preset

[shell yew]

Let me send you screen recording just to be sure we are on same page and i am not confusing you. then maybe i will create github issue

[shell yew]

ok, so i started recording and realised the preset:Default won't change until i save and comeback again to the UI

[shell yew]

@random swallow so i ran the addon you mentioned, also merged both my deck and added 25m 10h as learning step.

is there way i can simulate card study to see if everything works or not?

Like i create a new card add it to learing. I want to see what i will get after learning step.

[random swallow]

I would remove the second learning step and just use 25m
There is this: https://huggingface.co/spaces/open-spaced-repetition/fsrs4anki_previewer
You enter parameters, desired retention and a series of grades (1=Again, 2=Hard, etc) and it outputs optimal intervals. But it's not exactly what you want. If you want to know what intervals you will get after your learning steps, just study and see

[shell yew]

I would remove the second learning step and just use 25m
Ok

Any recomendation of relearning step? i am currently using 30m 8h

[random swallow]

Remove 8h

[shell yew]

so i only have 25m in learning step..

getting 1.2 month

[random swallow]

Share your parameters

[shell yew]

36.1529, 37.1725, 38.7562, 39.8493, 5.0793, 1.3734, 0.8940, 0.0338, 1.7464, 0.0376, 1.1450, 2.2529, 0.0138, 0.4929, 1.7130, 0.2213, 2.8875

I am thinking now only choice is to reset the parameter to default. and let more review build up

or

use ignore review before and set it to current date

Myabe mixing cards from diffrent deck under same preset.. caused this.. i really was using buttons as when i want to see them.

[random swallow]

Huh
So according to your parameters, your first interval for all 4 grades should be almost the same, and very long
At 90% desired retention:
Again - 36 days
Hard - 37 days
Good - 39 days
Easy - 40 days

Have you re-optimized after using the "remedy Hard misuse" thingy?

[shell yew]

yes

[random swallow]

I guess use "Ignore reviews before", but it actually ignores entire cards, not just reviews

[shell yew]

maybe i think i instead abused , easy button?

[random swallow]

That's not a problem for FSRS

[shell yew]

so that means the card review won't be counted in the future review calculation ?

[random swallow]

If you have reviewed a card before the selected date, any reviews if that card will never be used for optimization

[shell yew]

do i just reset paramater to default and let things build up for 3 months and try again?

[shell yew]

i guess fine .. this works too

i don't mind

[random swallow]

I suppose, provided that you are still adding new cards, since no reviews of old cards will be used

[shell yew]

yes .. i will do this then

currently 58 card in learning phase?

if i select today date .. will they be counted in fsrs from now on?

[random swallow]

https://docs.ankiweb.net/studying.html#how-to-choose-the-answer-button
Also, I recommend reading this

[shell yew]

will definitely do ..

So i am going to add ignore date and reset parameter to default and after a month will optimize

[random swallow]

I'm not 100% sure. I don't know if "Ignore reviews before" is like "ignore everything before this day, including the day itself" or like "ignore everything before this day, but not including the day itself"

You know like, < or <=

Idk which one it is

[shell yew]

ok .. then its a gamble .. i will be adding card daily.. so it dosen't matter

[random swallow]

Yep

[shell yew]

Thanks for helping.