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sturdy garden
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I mean, I had to hit 10th best score all time (4th when I hit it) to max out an intermediate scenario 🤷🏻‍♂️ top 250 doesn’t seem too bad lol

sturdy garden
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Pls explain then lol because how I see it, each rank up for that scenario is roughly +650 score over the previous rank. And maxing out is just a little higher than that. Seems about right to me.

lavish magnet
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The way I look at it, you're not supposed to be able to max it out until you can dominate that level. You complete platinum, move on to intermediate, and then come back occasionally and use it to guage your progress. I'm well into elite on most things now, and that's what I use the Intermediate max scores for. If it's fully maxed, I don't bother going back to those scenarios

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the scores aren't impossible, but they ARE difficult, and I think that's the intention

lavish magnet
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you're misconstruding rank with score

craggy mauve
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some of the scores are really hard i agree

sturdy garden
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You don’t need to max the scenario to get complete lol

lavish magnet
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^

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you only need to get the base rank on all tasks to get complete. you don't need MAX on everything, that's just a bonus

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Like I said, I think that is intentional

sturdy garden
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Yeah that’s normal. You just need to hit 500 for plat. 599 is a side quest.

lavish magnet
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would you rather it cap at 500 points, so you have to max everything to get platinum in general?

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I also didn't say entry wasn't overtuned, I said I think the formula is intentional. Your OP is in regards to some of them being "insane" to max out, which my argument is that it's intentional

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everything is a little overtuned, just look at the leaderboard distribution. Also, the rank in the leaderboard means literally nothing, all that matters is the score

lavish magnet
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you're stuck on top whatever, that doesn't matter

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look at the score differences between diamond, and maxed entry

sturdy garden
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Bro, we’re just trying to get better at moving a mouse around. Lmao

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It’s not that serious

lavish magnet
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how many people do you think skipped entry entirely and went straight to intermediate? lol

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alr lets skip all the back and forth and just bring @lost crater into this. Is the entry maximum, being 20% above threshold, intentional?

sturdy garden
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Alright brother, good luck on your journey to 599 🙋🏻‍♂️

lavish magnet
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💀 I already maxed all of entry and am working on intermediate kekw

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wot

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alright, you're just dense. good luck in your aiming kekw

lavish magnet
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The fact is, I can answer it, and you said in your original post you already looked at the algorithm, which means you should have already understood how it functions before making your edit. That's the "disparity" or "bug" you're so quick to point out like you have some modicum of authority here.

It's simplistic because it CAN apply to everything, and it's done that way to generalize the increase in skill required. As I said before, look at the difference between platinum 599 and the threshold in intermediate (diamond). You can clearly see that if you can hit diamond, you can easily hit maxed on platinum, but you wouldn't know that because you're still topaz. Based on your responses, you know nothing of statistics or high school mathematics, and trying to attack me on a personal level saying I know nothing about this, is honestly hilarious.

"Word salad" isn't just a phrase you can throw out there because you can't be fucked to read an actual sentence. I'm not being defensive, I was telling you my thoughts on the matter, and even AGREED with you that everything is over-tuned and not just entry. You know, like how you said this is a forum for feedback and discussions? Yet you're the one getting defensive to my point of view and explanation without fully grasping the words that I type in a particular order so it's easy to understand. But if you really want a word salad;
Obtuse, rubber goose, green moose, guava juice!
Giant snake, birthday cake, large fries, chocolate shake!

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lavish magnet
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pepeOld unite

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I can feel the "you still don't know what you're talking about" response coming, so imma just leave this here

sturdy garden
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took me 2 tries, i had 589 or something before.

tranquil isle
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Oh no law is typing again hide your wife and kids

lavish magnet
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I'm doing my own alternate checks, It'll be done momentarily

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need to grab a little more data

tranquil isle
lavish magnet
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Now that my meds have kicked in, I decided to argue against myself since no one else has taken up that task and I was looking forward to something to get the brain juices flowing. inb4 "just more word salad"

Since I haven't figured out the API yet to pull the data and do an accurate distribution, I had to settle for the data I could easily access. Data was taken from the live leaderboard on entry level only, and manually entered into the spreadsheet. Confirmation of assumptions and additional checks would need to be completed by either the Devs, or someone with knowledge and access to the API.

There is a perceived and notable difference between rank and max score, as OP indicated, by the max score threshold position on the leaderboard with the data that is available. Even accounting for a normalized population to the average across all tasks, there exists a real discrepancy in perceived difficulty compared to the other skill categories, and the leaderboard "rank" that is required to hit those scores. The current algorithm appears to be ~98.5% accurate across all tasks, weighted much more negatively in the Switching category after normalization.

Since OP wants to go off of the percentile rank based on this thread, I included that in the normalizations and checks to see where that score would land at current.

Given the significant discrepancy in population between tasks (High: 132,247 on Strafeshot -> Low: 24,401 on skateswitch), and the lack of a true distribution across tasks, it's impossible to definitively say one way or the other whether the algorithm that is in use is suited to the task. Just saying "I don't feel like this is fair" isn't sufficient for suggesting changes given the differences in skill expression between the tasks. The fact remains, if you can hit diamond in the task, you can max entry level. If you find any flaws in my approach, let me know and I'll correct for them.

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and for giggles, I checked what would happen if the max score ratio in entry matched what is set in intermediate against that normalized score. Some tasks STILL wouldn't qualify for 599 if the max score algorithm matched

vast zephyr
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I’m play complete and emerald three

tranquil isle
vast zephyr
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I had like 6 tasks I needed to play more of

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Lmao

sturdy garden
young latch
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...

vast zephyr
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LMAO

sturdy garden
sullen stream
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sturdy garden
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The ones from Limitless I guess

sullen stream
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lol

lavish magnet
sullen stream
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lmao fair enough

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my metabolism is fast too.... but mine take like 20 mins to start lol

lavish magnet
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I decided on the lower range of the dosage since I also drink coffee and smoke. Dont eant my heart exploding kekw

Just 27mgs

sullen stream
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oh wow.... less than me lol

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makes sense then

lavish magnet
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Wait a second...

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Did he delete everything?? ☠️

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I legit killed him, I think he deleted everything and left the server

sullen stream
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hes still in the server.... but yeah law....

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you fucked him up

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why do you think i was saying this shit?

lavish magnet
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Was I too mean whattheblud

sullen stream
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nah, you did fine

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his argument wasnt based on anything reasonable... just vibes.... you did a surprisingly in-depth explanation and embarrassed him lol

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you're good

lavish magnet
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Not sure why they deleted everything, cuz I still agreed with them just not the proposed solution 🤣

Oh well, off to the rest slab