plugin-discussion

[rain gate]

I think it looks really good, do u plan on releasing that?

[spark valve]

just a decoration

[lunar snow]

i see

[spark valve]

yea, i want to try fix the gaps though

[rain gate]

Yeah if u fix the small gaps i think its perfect I hope to be able to use it sometime looks real good.

[chilly mango]

you should be able to set a "handle y" property on your frame

then that ones gottw be like 1 or -1

[spark valve]

can you do that for individual images?

[chilly mango]

yes

[spark valve]

how would I do that? something like this?

(not in this file, this is for the straight parts, but just asking if this is how you would do it)

would this work?

nope

[orchid sorrel]

wtf are those objects

[spark valve]

?

[orchid sorrel]

god everything about this is so wrong

you don't put booleans/values in quotes

the inner objects are redundant

you are missing commas

and don't even get me started on "+1" 😩

[spark valve]

i never said i'm a coder

[orchid sorrel]

neither did i

[spark valve]

then if I don't do +1

what do I do

[orchid sorrel]

do you also write +1 on maths

it's just '1'

fix the issues i have told you about

if you don't know how ask

[spark valve]

like so?

it still doesn't work

what else is wrong

@orchid sorrel asking :p

[orchid sorrel]

that's one issue fixed

and one issue made worse

commas go like this: a, b, c, d
and not like this: a b c d,

[crimson basin]

kulche looking at people drafting and be like wtf are these people doing xD

[orchid sorrel]

fix your commas and remove the innermost curved brackets

[orchid sorrel]

true

[spark valve]

so like that?

[orchid sorrel]

take a closer look

and remove the redundant objects

[spark valve]

and that

ye?

[orchid sorrel]

almost there

two trailing commas left

[spark valve]

ohhhh

oops

I tried to learn coding multiple times in the past lol

i just can't. xd

[orchid sorrel]

goes much better than with most other beginner creators

it's usually path of pain to explain something

[spark valve]

i have adhd and i just cannot concentrate on like commas and brackets and stuff, lol

[spark valve]

haha, yeah i guess it 's the benefit of some prior trials of coding, maybe

for me

that I kinda know what ur talking about at least

haha

[orchid sorrel]

at least you know what a comma is

(i've been through stuff)

[spark valve]

hmmm +1 and -1 didn't seem to do the thing, maybe it was in the wrong direction

[spark valve]

lol, what

[orchid sorrel]

play around with the values

it will work at some point

[spark valve]

I changed it to x

not quite

[crimson basin]

poor kulche, kulche derves a lot of love for building the next gen of plugin creators

[crimson basin]

bottom right top corner looks disconnected

[spark valve]

yeah i am aware

trying to fix that

[orchid sorrel]

handle x shifts along the x axis

[spark valve]

i tried both y's and it didn't work

[orchid sorrel]

you want to move it vertically a pixel up, not horizontally

as I said, play with the numbers

maybe 16 or -16

[spark valve]

well it should only be by 1 if it's 1 pixel no?

[orchid sorrel]

I'm not sure what does it consider as its reference point

I believe it should be a negative number since the y axis is inverted in theotown

for whatever reason

[spark valve]

I did 15 and -15 and they are like gone

lol

like tried one on each

[chilly mango]

ah right i mixed them up

[spark valve]

hm?

[orchid sorrel]

coordinate moment

[spark valve]

nothing works

doing z doesn't seem to do anything

while y moves it like god knows where

i have literally spent like 8hrs on it today or summin

i just want it to work 😭

[orchid sorrel]

z does not exist?? lol

it's a 2d game

[midnight obsidian]

yes

[spark valve]

i meant x

[midnight obsidian]

z belongs to 3d

[spark valve]

fk

me

[orchid sorrel]

try smaller numbers then

it's a matter of experimentation

change a single coordinate at a time

[spark valve]

reloading game every time is pain

[crimson basin]

pain of making a plugin

[spark valve]

it moved to the side with x

not down

but when i do y

it doesn't move by 1 pixel

like it does with x

wtf

[orchid sorrel]

yes that's what x axis means

[spark valve]

it always just does this

[orchid sorrel]

it does move with y

then use different values

[spark valve]

whatver value I put

[orchid sorrel]

it's really not hard

[spark valve]

it just vanishes

[orchid sorrel]

then use different values

[spark valve]

i even tried 0.1

lol

[orchid sorrel]

you can't move by float pixels

obviously

[spark valve]

yeah, but nothing else works so I tried it, lol

[orchid sorrel]

what's the value of handle y in this image

[spark valve]

1

16 moves it by a whole thing

so why does 1 not move it like we need it

whut

[orchid sorrel]

so this is 16?

[spark valve]

yes

[orchid sorrel]

how does it look with 1

try 8 or 9

[spark valve]

like that

8 fixed the left one, but not the right one, could it be... -8?

why is it such a weird value

-8 did not fix it, xd

[crimson basin]

what about positive?

[spark valve]

positive 7 maybe

[static pollen]

Could you make a version without sidewalk pls ?

[crimson basin]

no i think positive 8 would be the one

[spark valve]

i did that here

both positive 8

[crimson basin]

oh

[spark valve]

unless

the game is taking the old png

it doesn't even exist

whut

[orchid sorrel]

what

you literally just count pixels

[spark valve]

the one without the extra pixels

the game is taking that one

i deleted the image and will try re-export it

but it was correct on the image

still

look it ends with a flat 3

but my image

has that little bump on it

the game is just not taking the image with it

[orchid sorrel]

show json and raw png

[crimson basin]

thats a lot of .json

[spark valve]

curve12.png

but in the game it's not that

[orchid sorrel]

'raw' generally means something that one could see

[spark valve]

wdym

[orchid sorrel]

hold on, are you trying to draw pixels below the tile?

[spark valve]

yea

[orchid sorrel]

that's not possible, unlike drawing above

[spark valve]

well fk, what do I do then, lol

it almost works

just the 2 gaps on the below

lol

[orchid sorrel]

it be like that

[spark valve]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[dim thorn]

Parking

Aaaa

[spark valve]

ima just have the gap everywhere then

to make it at least look the same on every side

i give up, xd

[orchid sorrel]

there's not much you can do about it without using lua im afraid

[trim blade]

Is there documentation on how to make a simple building pack somewhere?

[crimson basin]

kulche teaching lua? 👀

[orchid sorrel]

not doing that

[spark valve]

nah

idk what even lua is

and I am not spending like 50hrs on this

lmao

[stoic palm]

why not edit that road tile? it may work

[spark valve]

because that's the normal in game road

[orchid sorrel]

that would require a separate road/road deco draft

[spark valve]

and to have another road, for just that

would be kinda excessive

[stoic palm]

Alternatively would could just do something screwy

[crimson basin]

what

evan sometimes you dont make sense

[stoic palm]

Well I was going to attach a file

to go with that statement

but I can no longer find it

[spark valve]

yk what ima just consider the gaps as drainage at the sides of the parking lots

if you consider it as that

it looks good

[stoic palm]

You could also just not have a sidewalk that would fix the issue to lol

[crimson basin]

why in the world does the vanilla road even have that pixel at the top

why cant vanilla roads have the white pixels there

[spark valve]

yeah but a sidewalk kinda makes sense in the city

and I want it to be possible to add on your normal city roads

to the side yk

[stoic palm]

Concrete decal go brrrrr

[orchid sorrel]

?????

[spark valve]

hey

that actually looks good

it does look like drainage

i',m happy with this

[crimson basin]

yeah it looks nice

[orchid sorrel]

are you sure you know how roads look bunny

[crimson basin]

no

[orchid sorrel]

you can't just slap random pixels everywhere

[spark valve]

yea, i could

[crimson basin]

i dont mess with roads

[stoic palm]

So these are deco pieces right?

[spark valve]

yup

if you add a decal you can make it look like a large sidewalk with an indent for parking probably

[stoic palm]

yeah that was going to be my question

[spark valve]

how much u gonna pay me, xddd

[stoic palm]

with the large gap between that and the building that'd pretty much be a massive sidewalk

Thus making the small roadside on not needed

It my mind atleast

[spark valve]

yea, but maybe somebody will wanna use it next to like apartments with grass or summin

so yea

[stoic palm]

That's possible

[spark valve]

with the roadside it has more use cases

i can make a roadsideless version too tho

lul

ima just... delete it

xd

and recolor the road shadows to not exist

cause that's from the sidewalk

[stoic palm]

And that version also wouldn't have that sidewalk issue

[spark valve]

yep

ima include both in the plugin

i will also later add some versions with cars on them probably

so you can have that

but pain

maybe tomorrow

i could upload the plugin even without it and then update it later right?

[crimson basin]

yeah

[spark valve]

I got worried the cars maybe wouldn't fit, lmao

I never measured it

but they do

thank god

xd

[crimson basin]

kulche idk what im doing with the glass anymore, it looks like a mess

[spark valve]

this will be an amazing plugin

ima use this in my city

if I ever play it again instead of making plugins

lol

[orchid sorrel]

what can I say except skill issue

show

[spark valve]

i might just become one of those people that mod games, but never actually play them

xd

[crimson basin]

the light reflection looks wrong

[orchid sorrel]

you changed nothing since our previous conversation

[crimson basin]

i did

ive made some stuff lighter

[orchid sorrel]

I told you to give it more contrasting, defined borders/frames

and not to make it a gradient

[spark valve]

i can now see why people don't like doing rotation frames, but ima do it anyway, because that's why I started plugins, I wanted to make plugins with rotation frames for things that really do break completely if you rotate the map

that's kinda my goal with making plugins, I wanna make a plugin for all the stuff I wanted to use in my city, but just completely breaks upon rotation

[orchid sorrel]

reminds me of that guy who had a meltdown because his bridge plugin got disapproved from the store because it only had a single orientation lol

[spark valve]

(and as stated before many times, most things don't need a rotation frame, but there are things that do just break without it)

[spark valve]

lmao

[crimson basin]

bokoblo

[orchid sorrel]

maybe, idk

[midnight obsidian]

maybe it's a great time to create a theotown plugin which i would never release

[spark valve]

watch me become known in the community for awesome rotation frame plugins in like a few years, xd, cuz no way in heck am I doing this that regularly, xddd

[rain gate]

omg bridge no face east 😭😭 end of world

[orchid sorrel]

lol

[crimson basin]

so random dark/light spots?

[spark valve]

i must say that having a bridge that could only be used one way would kinda suck, xd

[orchid sorrel]

that's noise

[orchid sorrel]

not contrast

it's not random

[midnight obsidian]

maybe bosco verticale could be a decent idea

[crimson basin]

i dont think i understand what youre trying to tell me

i got the divisors part

but not the other part

[spark valve]

i think i understand what is being said

[orchid sorrel]

that's a gradient right here

[spark valve]

maybe ima get it completely wrong, but your glass changes colors randomly and that it shouldn't?

[orchid sorrel]

do not

[spark valve]

do not gradient or yes gradient

[crimson basin]

okay of its not gradient then how is it done?

[orchid sorrel]

you know

[crimson basin]

no gradient

[orchid sorrel]

not everything has to be a gradient

there's more to graphic design than that

look on the side where I have done the windows

[spark valve]

so like having them be lighter in a way that sun would shine irl and make the glass lighter?

is that what you would want?

[orchid sorrel]

no

I told bunny in dms

[crimson basin]

so should i pick one flat colour for each floors then add divisors?

[orchid sorrel]

you could, if I get what you mean

[crimson basin]

like this but with divisors?

[orchid sorrel]

yes

and then you add the color variation

[crimson basin]

colour variation 😭

wheres the light supposed to reflect off?

[static pollen]

I want rotation, who's that guy, i want to turn my city without see a bridge on the wrong side, i like turn city, and i want all buildings turning with it, tuuuuuurn, that's turn like a propeller!

[midnight obsidian]

hmm

[spark valve]

I was trying to upload the plugin and it gave me this

wtf

oh I think I forgot to add the thing

oh ye

ima do that

[crimson basin]

oh

[spark valve]

huh

okay

that didn't fix it

i thought it was cuz i was missing one thing in the manifest

[crimson basin]

@livid agate

whats with all the PHP errors after you did the maintainence

[spark valve]

it looks great

[spark valve]

did so

[spark valve]

yeah looks like I can't upload it now then ig

[crimson basin]

i dont actually know if it has to do with ja but ill bet it does cause he fixed it the last time. Hopefully it gets fixed

[spark valve]

Ye

I didn't spend like 9hrs on a plugin to not be able to upload it, xddd

[midnight obsidian]

you uploaded the same plugin 7 times

[spark valve]

no I didn't?

[midnight obsidian]

@livid agate nice plugin

[livid agate]

dont worry about it

im working on a fix

[midnight obsidian]

mind if i approve it?

[livid agate]

I will be very angry if you do

[midnight obsidian]

oh my

[spark valve]

it never told me it uploaded it

just showed the screen

lol

so i tried a few times to see if it works now

lol

deleted the extra ones

[livid agate]

Should be fixed now

[spark valve]

cool, but the file I posted is up right?

[livid agate]

maybe

[spark valve]

like I don't need to upload it again?

[livid agate]

🤷‍♂️

[spark valve]

okay ima hope, haha

seems to be

[echo prairie]

Cat statue

[spark valve]

lol

i just spent like 2hrs making Parallel Parking compatible with rotation frames

yk the og Parallel Parking

check this

og parallel parking go spinny

why is this insufficient quality? how am I supposed to make benches with backrests higher quality on like 3 pixels

[uncut acorn]

Same for me haha

[rain gate]

rip

[spark valve]

i retextured it

I think the texturing is a bit better now

but like I spent like 8hrs on it now perfecting it

lol

[rain gate]

Keep trying mate, the stuff youve done so far is excellent for a begginner.

[spark valve]

thanks ❤️

[spark valve]

like come on, do these benches really look that bad to not get accepted?

I adjusted the texturing and shadows now

like i'm really happy with these benches now

I tweeked the HELL out of them over the 8hrs, xd

[sharp kettle]

uh..

it looks nice tho

[spark valve]

not rlly, the seat is also 1 pixel above the ground like with these flat ones

the backrest is like 2 pixels

and 1 is to make the framing work

like if I draw a wireframe this is how I see it, size-wise

1 pixel above ground, then you have the armwrests go another and the backrest another 1 pixel

that's how it was intended

the line in the center is kinda where the gap between the backrest and seat would be, so it dakens there around the 'gap'

[sharp kettle]

yeah i see it

[spark valve]

these looks smaller cause don't have the armrests and backrests

still my bench is slightly too big, but... if one pixel is 60cm

it would be like 80cm above ground or summin

cause I kinda tried to use a pixels in a way where some of the pixels aren't strictly height or depth, but rather like both at once

which is the only way I could make a more complex bench, lul

i really dunno how you would make a metal framed wooden bench with less pixels than this, lul

i tried my best, took me hrs, lol, and I don't think I can make it better or smaller at this point

[sharp kettle]

well, with large pixel restriction heres one way u can make it i guess

i made a vending machine in TT

its quite big

[spark valve]

show

curious

i hope it gets accepted, cause this bench is like a million times better now than the first version that got rejected yesterday, lul

the only other thing that I thought of is maybe they don't like only a bench pack, maybe if I added more small things they would take that, dunno

[sharp kettle]

i refuse

[spark valve]

okay, lol

[sharp kettle]

crap nvm i was about to copy the image here

(i was gonna show it)

[rain gate]

Its nice to see new plugin creators popping up.. I feel like less and less plugins are being made =[

[spark valve]

okay show it

[sharp kettle]

one sec crtl c failed

[sharp kettle]

i refuse

[spark valve]

well it's kinda demotivating if a plugin you spent 8hrs on gets rejected 🤣

they look great tho

oversized maybe but, whatever

worth it imo

haha

[sharp kettle]

it really is worth it

[spark valve]

if I only get a 50/50 chance of getting it accepted ima not make too many more either, lmao

:p

[sharp kettle]

tho size is innacurate its definetly look good

[spark valve]

yea

the light on the ground is rlly cool

[sharp kettle]

also i wanted to give it night anim too

so.. to make it look good had to make it big

also its a fence

so you can place it anywhere

[spark valve]

i feel with this game and it being so pixelated it's sometimes just worth it to have summin nicer even if a little big, like a lot of buildings are kinda big too, I feel like the people are maybe even a bit too small and that one pixel should be like 50cm instead of 60 and they would be like 3 and a half, lol, but ofc that's not possible, xd

idk i think overall the sizings in the game are kind all over the place

especially with plugins from a billion different people

haha

like if you have a 7 story hospital 2x shorter than a 6 story building, for example, I have that in my city

lul

[spark valve]

but yeah this big (as in popular) Parallel Parking will be hopefully happening soon thanks to yours truly :p

i had to redo like... ALL of the coding

rename ALL the files

pain when there's 132 items in 33 groups

lol

for those that care... it shouldn't even increase the plugin size (as in memory it takes)

since it's the same pieces, just reordered, renamed, regrouped and made to work with rotation frames

what an exciting time to be alive now that i'm here 🤣

[sharp kettle]

my plugins are heavy all because of the thumbnail i guess

[spark valve]

you don't need to include the plugin thumbnail in the plugin I think? you just upload it on the website

[sharp kettle]

err

then youll have a 144p.png as the thumbnail

[spark valve]

idk

anyway

gn

[dapper sun]

Will there be any complement of double decker buses similar to the ones in London?

[rain gate]

I know someone who is prob gonna be making some for a bus pack.

[dapper sun]

Ohhhh cool

that would be pretty cool

[rain gate]

They have like a over a hundred buses planned.

[warm comet]

.

[dapper sun]

you were making several pagodas and temples right?

I already found it, it was this forgiveness haha

[lunar snow]

i can safely say that the rs-24 yars is done

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1074178935203569715.webp?size=48&name=ibeatmykidseveryday&quality=lossless

the second frame wont be that hard to make

[midnight obsidian]

Nice plugin

[lunar snow]

nice nice plugin thanks np

[uncut acorn]

Ohhh ok I thought it was a building ☠️

[lunar snow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuVWSVywHdA&ab_channel=ovisignis

set the headphone volume to max

[rich birch]

do you mean this thing?

[dapper sun]

more or less... I remember that there was a complement of red double-decker buses... I can't FIND it but it came with a bus station

[rich birch]

Owh i get it..
That's hadestia's
unfortunately that plugin has been removed..

||(I still have it)||

[waxen surge]

whats the plugin to uhh

stone/brick bridges

[rich birch]

I don't know

[spark valve]

how would you make a plugin for a path?

it has to be similar to a road right?

just less pieces?

[crimson basin]

pth as in for vehicles?

[spark valve]

as in for pedestrians

[orchid sorrel]

why would it have less pieces

you can probably find the json for the vanilla pedestrian path somewhere on the forums

[lunar snow]

Nice thanks very epic

[static pollen]

The back view doesn't seems the front view 🤔

[lunar snow]

Whatcha mean

[static pollen]

it doesn't seem to be the same

[lunar snow]

btw I just realized the link in my bio has expired, thanks @languid tree for pointing that out

[lunar snow]

Well it's unfinished so

the back looks like this btw

[sinful meadow]

Any new BiG

[spark valve]

because you don't have various pieces with lines and stuff, you just have straight sections in 2 directions and a piece where they connect, no?

[orchid sorrel]

???

"a piece where they connect" you mean 1 x crossing, 4 t crossings and 4 curves?

plus 4 dead ends, 1 no connections and 2 straight segments

which totals to 16 pieces

pedestrian paths are just roads with extra steps

[spark valve]

okay

[rain gate]

honestly, i'm fed up with you and your obsession with military stuff (especially russian). this is a server dedicated to a city-building game, not some sort of a military strategy or whatever, and when i'm on this server, i would prefer seeing content which is related to a city building, not with stuff which destroys cities. i understand that maybe for you war is just some fun and interesting thing, but for me it is not. you have your own server where you can post as much military sht as you want, but please, refrain from posting this here. thank you

[lunar snow]

ok

i will continue to post my plugins here

regardless if you mind it or not

and also, i just wanna say that, this is The Leaf Military Equipment Pack, not The Leaf Russian Military Equipment Pack

i always say that i will make stuff for a lot of countries

and the reasons i make russian stuff first is that my countries and a lot of eastern european countries use soviet stuff

so ye, for now you will see a lot of russian military stuff

after i have completed it, i will move on to other countries (especially eastern europe and vietnam)

[echo prairie]

@lunar snow so did you find any military equipment in Latvia

[lunar snow]

latvia is a guest country btw

the whole baltic actually

[echo prairie]

And what does that mean?

[lunar snow]

so like

[echo prairie]

NATO equipment all?

[lunar snow]

i will make military vehicles for countries that are in my pack

but for guest countries

i will only make liveries for them

[echo prairie]

Ah

[lunar snow]

just imagine like

i make military vehicles for finland

they have that Patria 6×6

and oh my, latvia also has the Patria 6x6 too?

then i will make the latvian liveries for the patria 6x6 also

kinda like that

[echo prairie]

No idea

[lunar snow]

in latvia case, the whole latvian equipment are already being used by countries in my list

so technically, latvia is not a guess country anymore

but an official one

[echo prairie]

https://youtu.be/YBXeN3Tq8nw

We made this recently

[lunar snow]

nice latvijas armijai raditfs

if only i know what that mean

[spark valve]

I updated my parallel parking plugin, added corner pieces as well as pieces without lines, and updated all the naming to make it clearer which piece is which

[spark valve]

I fixed how it looks from this side

the curves were kinda bad before

still not perfect, but better, lul

[sage socket]

im eating this up

[spark valve]

what does that mean, xd

[lunar snow]

Nice plugin

[sage socket]

to me its like a way of saying i like it

[spark valve]

does anything scream perfectionist as me changing this for the 3rd time? like I have to edit it, re-export it all and everything for just a small change, xd

but now i'm happy with it

xd

[spark valve]

thanks

i still wanna add some parked car decoration pieces to this plugin

the only issue is I was dumb and didn't save the pieces with the white parking lines, so ima have to redo that, xd

i only have the ones without the lines

lul

like not thaaat much work, but still annoying

[dapper light]

This plugin is perfect, even tho it doesn’t have diagonal

[spark valve]

yeah no idea how I would make diagonal, diagonal roads don't go to the edge of a tile

it cuts through like halves

you can make parallel parking with lines or without lines... or you can pretend it's thick roads or turning lanes

lot's of variability in use

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[crimson basin]

Im glad you decided to make plugins

even though they arent houses and stuff, we could always use more road and decor <3

[spark valve]

yea i think so too

there's so many houses

less of utility stuff

you usually just have 1 thing you can go with and no other options

[uncut acorn]

Hmmm... Missed a pixel

[spark valve]

that's drainage

[uncut acorn]

Oh right

[spark valve]

also you can't put a pixel there as there is no diagonal connection between squares on one axis

so I made it on all of them as drainage

:p

[uncut acorn]

Pretty nice trick

So far

[static pollen]

can i suggest something else if you don't mind pls ?

Nvm

I think you already did it

[spark valve]

what was it?

[static pollen]

A version without parking

[uncut acorn]

Yeah, this is KFC... An upcoming commercial for US Commercial Pack... Which haven't been continued until now due to importance of something

In the upcoming update, some commercials will increase the shadow density as intended, textures will be remastered, and new commercials added soon, and others... As well

[spark valve]

welp I already did that, haha

yup

[rain gate]

Indonesian house pack

[uncut acorn]

Nice

[rain gate]

Thank

[urban grove]

Very cool plugin you got there

[spark valve]

@orchid sorrel can a road have more than 16 frames? can it have one for each of the 4 sides? instead of 1 for every 2 sides?

aka 32 frames

[lunar snow]

not possible

[spark valve]

like if I wanted to make a road that only has something on one side and it stays on the same side if you rotate the camera

that's not possible then?

cause I wanted to make a road that only has the sidewalk on one side

which works for 2 viewing directions

but it breaks on the other 2

it has to be possible somehow, cuz there's this plugin

where you can see

even if I rotate it

the parking spaces stay on the same side

they never move to the side of the parked cars

[lunar snow]

i see your problem

but im not that good to find the answer

[spark valve]

i wanted to make a road with sidewalks on only one side, so I did this...

but that doesn't work

as when I rotate it, the sides flip

[spark valve]

but this person has clearly made it stay on the same side somehow

[orchid sorrel]

you'd need a one way road for that

[spark valve]

so it's not possible with a 2 way road?

only with a 1 way road?

that sucks

[orchid sorrel]

what are you even trying to achieve

[spark valve]

I wanted to make a road that has a sidewalk only on one side

[orchid sorrel]

if you want a road with one regular lane and one parking lane then it has to be a one way road

[spark valve]

like a 2 way road with a sidewalk only on one side

that kinda sucks that roads don't allow more frames

so you can't make stuff only for one side

[orchid sorrel]

you would achieve that with road decorations

[spark valve]

could you use a fence?

for it?

and make a fence that looks like the sidewalk

would that work?

[orchid sorrel]

fences would cause the same drawing issues you faced before

[spark valve]

wdym

[orchid sorrel]

they are placed between tiles and can't be drawn on the tiles below

which means rotation issues

[spark valve]

what rotation issues?

[orchid sorrel]

I have just told you

[spark valve]

like in my city I have a church fence that stays the same even if I rotate it?

so why couldn't it be a sidewalk?

[orchid sorrel]

because it can't be drawn on the tile below, only above

I can't make it any simpler

[spark valve]

yeah that should be fine

cause

my borderless roads are wider

[orchid sorrel]

what do you mean wider

[spark valve]

so it should look like it's on the edge of it

like instead of the sidewalk

it's a road

like to the edge

[orchid sorrel]

you're free to do what you want, I'm just telling you it won't work, at least not conveniently

[spark valve]

so if the fence draws it between the tiles, it should be on the edge of the road no?

like there, no?

[orchid sorrel]

in that case you would only be able to draw something on the red pixels

[spark valve]

it draws it here?

[orchid sorrel]

hold on, no

[spark valve]

so if I just make that flat

[orchid sorrel]

fences are drawn a pixel higher

so you won't be able to draw anything at all on these tiles

[spark valve]

it would be like here no?

so if I just make the texture look flat

it should look like a sidewalk?

[orchid sorrel]

I'm telling you for the fourth time already

you can't draw anything below that

[spark valve]

what does that mean

[orchid sorrel]

making it "flat" would still draw it outside the road tile

[spark valve]

yeah

i don't need it to draw on top of the road

i need it to draw next to the road

[orchid sorrel]

yeah and then you rotate the map and it draws it on the road instead

which breaks your entire solution

[spark valve]

that should be fine though

because

it will either be a wider road with the sidewalk being drawn outside of it

or it would be drawn on it

which would then be like a normal country road

it would move by like 2 pixels

[orchid sorrel]

I don't think you understand

but I'll just leave it up to you to figure out

[spark valve]

what do I not understand?

[orchid sorrel]

my concerns, and the way theotown renders stuff

[spark valve]

i don't, ig ur not explaining it too well, lol

ima just try it ig and see

how do you make a fence

lul

[crimson basin]

kulche uses terminology

[orchid sorrel]

I'm using english

there's not a single specialised word used

[spark valve]

are u sure?

xd

[orchid sorrel]

comdey

cant spel

[crimson basin]

render

also i remember you using arrays and stuff instead of square brackets and curly brackets

[spark valve]

where can I find how to make a fence, lol

[thick mural]

The ability to operate entirely based on code.Covers 18 variations of 9 buildings, with more variations in color to be created in the future (potentially 36)

[orchid sorrel]

if you don't know what that is I can only send you to the wikipedia page for json

imagine you build a fence along the red line with the blue part being your "sidewalk"

[lunar snow]

nice drawing

did you use paint.net to draw that

[orchid sorrel]

the yellow field is the area theotown is able to render your fence in (not 100% accurate)

now you rotate it by 180 degrees

and theotown is no longer able to render your sidewalk because it's outside of the yellow range

[lunar snow]

very nice drawing

[spark valve]

so how do like the church walls work

[lunar snow]

you even include include a frowning face

[orchid sorrel]

tree added for reference

[lunar snow]

wwow

you even included me

bonus point for that

[orchid sorrel]

fences are vertical and only take a pixel of horizontal space (somewhat)

you're trying to make a completely flat, horizontally wide fence

which causes issues

[spark valve]

you said there's no height in theotown

[orchid sorrel]

what????????????

[spark valve]

wait

no

no z

[orchid sorrel]

god

2d does not mean no height

[spark valve]

can I just try it, lol

i still think it will work

gib fence instructions

[orchid sorrel]

if an axis was simply missing you could not see buildings on all sides

[orchid sorrel]

what's the problem with searching for it yourself in the place you've found all the other tutorials

[spark valve]

idk how to find the tutorial, lol

there's just the forum?

[thick mural]

Do you know of any way to change the model of the tower crane and scaffolding used in the construction of the building? Just like this!@orchid sorrel

[orchid sorrel]

it's in the same subforum as all the other tutorials you used

[orchid sorrel]

there was definitely a tutorial for the cranes

not sure about scaffolding

it definitely is possible, but don't ask me

[lunar snow]

nice tank

which tank is that

[thick mural]

It's a beautiful picture, isn't it?

Like the Shenzhen Special Economic Zone in the 1970s.

[spark valve]

trying to find it

don't see any fence category

[orchid sorrel]

https://forum.theotown.com/viewtopic.php?t=13521

it really isn't that difficult

tutorials and documentation section

[spark valve]

https://forum.theotown.com/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=2965
I was looking here

[orchid sorrel]

it is here as well

[thick mural]

Can you provide the website of this?

[orchid sorrel]

no I could not, I have just closed it

[spark valve]

i did not see that

and i looked like 5 times

lol

[orchid sorrel]

skill issue

what else can I say

[spark valve]

lol

[crimson basin]

im fine, ill figure it out one day

[crimson basin]

https://forum.theotown.com/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=2965

[spark valve]

where do you put your image?

into the code

ima try this

it's not written on the tutorial page

[orchid sorrel]

you added a new frame

you didn't change existing ones

[spark valve]

i don't get it

I just deleted it, lol

and this also doesn't work

[orchid sorrel]

I'm busy

try joining those two objects together

[spark valve]

uhuh

what does this even mean

i just wanted to make a simple fence with uh... 2 frames, without the slope frames

wait... maybe?

ima try summin

[orchid sorrel]

trailing comma

you learned that yesterday

[spark valve]

forgot

oop

wait why does this not work

it directs it to the png, gives the width and count and how many times

[orchid sorrel]

trailing comma 2 moment

[spark valve]

where

oh

there

what's wrong now

aauuugggghhhhh

oh

ohhhhh

ha

it opened

the game opened

no errors

i'm so smart 🤣

not rlly

what

lol

why does it use both sides

oh maybe

hmmm

better ig?

it's floating now tho

xd

okay I have no idea why that is the case

i only changed the width to take only the one half

[red lintel]

Folks I am back

But I have no idea what to make

[spark valve]

idk

look into #plugin-suggestions

ig

[red lintel]

man everybody is asleep

[spark valve]

not me

i figured it out

[red lintel]

Maybe scoot it to the left one pixel and one pixel down

Oh wait, it has some missing pixels

[spark valve]

yea

i added them now

[lunar snow]

nice

[spark valve]

I can see the issue with using a fence

there will always be a gap on one side and a little spike on the other from 2 of the 4 angles

but

and although it will not be 100% perfect

i think this is just a small discrepency

and it's good enough

cause having this allows you to have parking only on one side

or like a cool extra lane of sorts, a turning lane

I think ti's worth it, here, made like a turning lane from the bottom road to the top one

yes, not perfect, but adds a lot of cool building variety

so I'm all for it

[lunar snow]

why dont you make a one-sided sidewalk road instead of using fence

[lunar snow]

it will fix this problem

[spark valve]

tried that

impossible

since roads only have 2 frames

not 4

so it works for 2 views

and flips for the other 2

can only work with a one way road

but you don't need turning lanes on a one war road really

played around with it a bit more, made it longer to look better and replaced the country road up top with a fence up to the curve

so you can make it look good

this is becoming more than just a parallel parking pack, lol

more like a... cool roadway stuff pack

I want to make one more thing

[lunar snow]

you see, it works well for other roads

[spark valve]

wdym

[lunar snow]

one sided sideway road

[lunar snow]

it works fine for other road plugins like this one

oh nvm

im sorry

that's one way

[spark valve]

yeah

it only works for one way

so I think my solution is pretty good all things considered

[lunar snow]

yes i think so

but will you make the one-sided sidewalk road for one way road tho?

[spark valve]

one more piece I want to make is a slashed out end piece

[spark valve]

i could

[lunar snow]

you should actually

[spark valve]

but I'm not adding one way roads today, maybe in the future

[lunar snow]

alr

[spark valve]

last thing I wanna add today is this slashed out curve... but make an end-piece for it

so you can have it to the edge of the curve

[lunar snow]

i see

[spark valve]

more realistic imo

[lunar snow]

nice

[spark valve]

thinking of how to best do the plugin showcase image

ima change this curve for a straight line

to show that you can and it flat on a road too

[lunar snow]

this really sounds like an promising pack

i could help you on some variants if i have some ideas

[spark valve]

i also want to add some parked cars versions

in the future

but that will be a lot of work

[lunar snow]

i have these cars that could help you

and trucks too also

[spark valve]

these are my without lines

and these with lines

(i deleted my curves and straights with lines)

(ima need to remake them later)

lol

[lunar snow]

i see

[spark valve]

but that's like 10mins

i just draw on the parking lines

[spark valve]

maybe

these are nicer colors than the in-game ones

[lunar snow]

i really have a storage of trucks that could help you

just ask me which one do you like

and credit me also

that's all

[spark valve]

i could put it in the description like "car props by"

but ima do car versions later, haha

spent 2 days on this pack straight basically now

wanna do other stuff too

xd

[lunar snow]

here are some of the trucks

[static pollen]

Cool

[lunar snow]

if only trailer truck's drafts were less shitty

[hybrid sedge]

Trucks

[rain gate]

Nice! When this gonna be published?

[lunar snow]

never

[echo prairie]

True

[lunar snow]

because of the complication of the trailer truck's drafts

[echo prairie]

Leaf's military equipment pack will also never be published

(or 1 day before he dies)

[lunar snow]

i mean i will see how theotown solves the trailer truck's drafts

[lunar snow]

then i will do same

[lunar snow]

uh no

the military pack is way more simple to code

[echo prairie]

Military pack reference

[warm idol]

How to make ground decals rotate like buildings with "rotation aware": true tag?

[spark valve]

new update

I spent like 20hrs or summin on this plugin so far, lmao

crazy

why only 'positive' reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

all this is possible with the pieces

and probably more uses I haven't thought about :p

[rain gate]

It's incredible can't wait for the update

[spark valve]

whenever it gets approved :p

[spark valve]

you would probably never build something as ugly as this mess, haha, but needed to shomehow showcase as many possible things as possible in one image

which actually isn't the easiest, lol

but I think it does it's job well

for giving some ideas/inspiration of what is possible

It's not all perfect, but there are some limotations just because it's a game

So the chevrons have a bigger gap between them in flaced after each other on one axis

It doesn't look bad actually... it's just not... the same

Which kinda bothers me a bit cuz perfectionist/ocd, but some compromises are necessary ig

/I could try repaint all the pieces to see if I can make the gaps more equal... but pain

That's some 28 pieces or what you would need to repaint

And that's like... a lot of work

I repainted previous pieces many many times already to make stuff look better

And I really hate doing it at this point, lmao

28 only chevroned pieces... there's like a lot more pieces in this pack, xd

Like 64 pieces at this point

lol

plus a fence and a custom road

@rain gate any idea what the ordinal is? (this is not from my plugin)

[rain gate]

why u asking me lmao i know nothing about plugin making 🤣

[spark valve]

lol, okay

idk u stick around here alot

so maybe you caught summin

xd

[spark valve]

okay I ended up going through and repainting some of the frames, lol

now it leaves a bigger gap between any 2 chevron pieces

which looks kinda nice

and it's persistent in any direction

same gaps

which is cool

I like that

[spark valve]

i got one last update coming for the roads system

[spark valve]

this is gonna be the final update I do to it for a while

the with car versions will probably happen at some point

but at the moment it will be just a 'creating cool looking parking and roads set'

but without cars :p

[rain gate]

I really hope u add cars at some point

[spark valve]

this is all the stuff I came up with that you can do so far, maybe there are even more things you can do :p

you can make long parking spaces now :p

as well as turning lanes

albeit, there will be a piece of missing curb on a turning lane

as there is no good way to fix that

but you can place like some decal or something probably to make it look better

the only way I could fix it is create a set of straight pieces with a curb going out to the side, lol

I mean I might do that... as that's only 2 extra sets, as I only need to do it with the curb variants, lul

but not now, maybe at some point

I think I might rename the plugin to something like

Erin's Road Extras, lol

as it's becoming more versatile

i have a few more ideas of what I wanna add

[spark valve]

before I go sleep, here's one more update

hopefully it gets accepted in a reasonable timeframe

as I believe the available version atm is like 6 updates behind, lul

goodnight!

why sweet 🥺

awww

also if I continue at this rate ima make the best road stuff decoration set like ever, xddd

i spent like 24hrs on it at this point

lmao

[strange cloud]

Ordinal are used to make your things are listed in specified number,so for example if the ordinal are 1,then it's shown at first in the category.

[spark valve]

thanks

welp gn

Hope ya'll like my plugin ^^

cya

[thick mural]

A small village at night.

[static pollen]

they don't sleep

[uncut acorn]

Nordstrom

[mellow ginkgo]

What's the plugin name btw?

[uncut acorn]

Erin's Parallel Parking

[mellow ginkgo]

Is that still rating pending?

[dapper sun]

someone who has knowledge of the creation of accessories I would like you to help me with something if you are interested you can send me a private message thanks for the support!

[sharp kettle]

accesories..?

[dapper sun]

Plugin

I would like someone to help me is a personal project

[sharp kettle]

oh

[dapper sun]

Yep yep

[uncut acorn]

Publix Supermarket for new update of US Commercial Pack

[tranquil ibex]

wow

why not something bigger?

[uncut acorn]

I'll make something bigger for the update of my pack soon

[tranquil ibex]

okey

[thick mural]

There seems to be a problem with the plugin used to make the code light.

As long as you use one or more lights, the exported code is wrong.

The X and y values are incorrect, and the code used to animate the light is all wrong.

[sharp kettle]

Huh

[thick mural]

The code used to represent the light will only show a single one of all.

[lunar snow]

diagonal frame

[warm comet]

💡

[lunar snow]

Nice

Those stairs will help us a lot

[red lintel]

I have the energy for a plugin idea but I have nothing in mind

[lunar snow]

@red lintel nice what's the idea

[red lintel]

Something about suburban houses

And big buildings

[rain gate]

not again lmfao

[tidal glen]

Lmao

[fathom pier]

I tried using the forums tutorial to make a home,
You can use this.

[uncut acorn]

Lol

[spark valve]

reee, my plugin still not approved

I spent so long on making it so much better yesterday

[lunar snow]

as the26 have said

"we have a life"