#town-square

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candid drift
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have*

versed timber
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Only if you use any other there stuff

candid drift
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what do you mean?

versed timber
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Such as there buildings

candid drift
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/oh

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thanks ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

versed timber
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Or textures that come with the game

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You are welcome

dull forge
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Everyone

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So train is useless now

versed timber
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It always has been really, the "people" prefer busses and cars

candid drift
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what program to use for the plugins

dull forge
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This should be fix then

versed timber
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To draw them people use pixly

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I don't think there's a way to fix it ricky

dull forge
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Hmm

candid drift
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thanks detecive

versed timber
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You are welcome foxer

candid drift
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Dem updates look sweet

desert cape
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I hope i could get Steam variant of theotown right now

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so i could resume my work ...

solemn mural
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The Train bug will get fix it

desert cape
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since my android device gave it up

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also, can i get VIF ?

solemn mural
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It was added more trains in the game so I think this bug will be fixed

desert cape
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you want more trains ? @solemn mural

solemn mural
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No no

desert cape
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rip

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cause i did 46 new trains

solemn mural
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I mean I want

desert cape
solemn mural
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Link

desert cape
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didn't uploaded thoses right now

supple kettle
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Why was update postponed was there a big bug found in it

desert cape
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idk

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but i just hope steam update won't be postponed

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wow guys, TT is rated 5 stars on french IOS

supple kettle
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How many downloads tho

mellow kettle
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We can't see either

supple kettle
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Oh

mellow kettle
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Apple doesn't offer the statistics

desert cape
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idk but it's ranked 22th in strategy

supple kettle
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It's ranked in nothing in Google Play

desert cape
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hmmmm bear_thinking

supple kettle
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Theo is underrated

desert cape
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@supple kettle @solemn mural

supple kettle
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yeah

solemn mural
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...

floral radish
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tren

charred flame
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I don't even know if I could still be here at June 3.

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A lot of things are going on here

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Maybe around this week would be the last time that I could be here for a few months

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Maybe, just maybe

solemn mural
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Why?

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๐Ÿค”

charred flame
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@solemn mural Contrary to everyone here, my new school year starts at June

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An irony because almost everyone have their vacation start at June

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So yeah, I am spending my vacation since April

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Other than school, there are also some personal reasons

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School will be so busy this year for me

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So I may disappear for a few months

solemn mural
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๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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Your school year begins at June....

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Where u from bro?

ember heron
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Probably from Southern Hemisphere?

charred flame
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@ember heron Yes

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Philippines, to be excact

ember heron
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I thought that was Northern?

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Ahh nvm

slate stag
candid drift
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how to move buildings?

pallid orchid
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@candid drift move tool

candid drift
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where is it located?

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i've been trying to manage traffic

pallid orchid
candid drift
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thank you!

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how to move a whole zone though?

pallid orchid
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You can only move one

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Building or object

candid drift
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k

pliant brook
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Guys we have big issue

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Android took Huawei's Android License

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Huawei might create it's own Play Store and Software

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thanks America for banning Huawei and removing all American Companies from future Huawei Phones

vernal sparrow
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@pliant brook I don't have Huawei

full drum
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Hello everyone im new herre and in not from U.S.A im from brazil anda my english is bad so i will wrrite whi some dificult but i promisse evolve that whit everyone herre so sorry if you cant uderstand me or if you as confuse at me yes ?

vital falcon
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you can use Google translate

candid drift
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That seems fine

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@pallid orchid is that a bus spawners

keen flame
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@vital falconnot all off the words in google are right๐Ÿ˜‚

pallid orchid
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@candid drift yes :)

candid drift
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Sauce plz

vital falcon
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I know

pallid orchid
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@candid drift
Plugin store

supple kettle
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Whats premium textures

floral radish
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Based on what I remember from being told months ago stuff that are behind paywalls in game

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This may be inaccurate or wrong so take it with a shaker of salt

supple kettle
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oh

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I thought it meant copyrighted buildings weren't allowed

versed timber
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You can have copyrighted buildings you used can't share them

floral radish
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Sรญ

desert cape
ember heron
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Oh so thats why I never heard of Huawei until very recently

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About time we have gameplay screenshot from tt66

desert cape
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Yes

ember heron
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Pretty cool town

ivory kelp
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nice hill town

ember heron
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||Haha get? Cuz it snowing and sn-|| ||Nevermind, Im out||

pliant brook
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@ember heron back then Huawei want very popular

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until some killer phone from Huawei, and they got rank 2

ember heron
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I am from America

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Didn't you said Huawei was banned in America?

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or from?

foggy quail
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Huawei can't use product of any american Company in 90 days

candid drift
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Well Its clearly why Huawei is banned in America

ember heron
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Hmm should hotels be considered residental or commercial?

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I mean, we have a 8x8 (?) rich hotel building in residential and then we have that 3x3 (?) poor motel in commercial.

turbid flume
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@pliant brook what killer phone?

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i know apple has X

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Samsung has s7

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but huawei? i tot they have phones with cameras better than leicas

rare stratus
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Is there a way to transfer diamonds over from mobile to the steam version? And is there going to be an entirely new game for android?

pliant brook
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no

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just update

rare stratus
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I mean, if I can't transfer diamonds, I will use some plugin store diamonds

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Ok

pliant brook
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@turbid flume Huawei P20, Mate20 example

turbid flume
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@pliant brook well not much to say, but its a good phone

errant zenith
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chinese spie

pallid orchid
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@rare stratus but there there are no diamonds in steam and ios version or anything extra to buy

rare stratus
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So

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They will cost money?

mellow kettle
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no

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It will be premium version

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it means after you buy the game, everything else is free

rare stratus
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I mean the game will

pallid orchid
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even the golden plane ?

mellow kettle
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it will

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yes

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we'll add theon prices

rare stratus
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Time for steam cards

pallid orchid
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or ios cards

rare stratus
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No ios

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Can't wait

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I have been playing before the military update

candid drift
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i found theotown in late 2016

then actually start playing in mid 2017

rare stratus
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When did the military update come out @mellow kettle

errant zenith
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i found theotown on mid 2016

candid drift
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๐Ÿ‘€

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I wanna play theotown every morning but I ended up being lazy

errant zenith
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^

rare stratus
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Oh, and will plugins from mobile be transferable onto the PC version

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(I'm really hoping)

candid drift
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I havent heard news regarding TT66 plugins and etc

rare stratus
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Me neither

candid drift
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It will probably roll out sooner

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I wish night mode will be more relevant, will include car lights and stuff

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Plus cars will come out less during night to refresh roads

errant zenith
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Is tt66 coming to android?

candid drift
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No wonder traffic easily piles up in this game, the car flow is continous ๐Ÿ‘€

errant zenith
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The cars magically appear inside the buildings

candid drift
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Lol

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I just hope I have a better PC so I can play cities skylines

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But TT is better, I use my phone pretty much all the time

mellow kettle
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They'll be cross compatible

pliant brook
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Theotown66 is for iOS and Windows/PC
TheoTown is for Android

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they're both the same, android will get TT66 updates aswell

pallid orchid
desert cape
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a park

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@mellow kettle will old plugins on my android device ( like thoses created in early 2018 ) be compatible with Windows ?

pallid orchid
mellow kettle
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...

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I won't say anything anymore

pallid orchid
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lol

candid drift
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is it me or everytime i play theotown i didnt realise i was playing for more than 2 hours instead of my average time in theotown before which was 30 minutes

pallid orchid
desert cape
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nice

ember heron
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Just looking at #bugs-n-crashes I can see some reasons why Android was postponed

candid drift
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is that any way to import old style plugins (in zip and .plugin format) to iOS?

ember heron
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Like the duplication bug in plugin store

odd path
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Yeah

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But luckily I fixed it..

ember heron
harsh umbra
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lol

idle skiff
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oof

royal valve
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Nice spending

candid drift
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wow

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cursed images are banned

royal valve
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@candid drift Cause it's cursed

idle solstice
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in early 2018 (if im right), i kinda remember of being tier 3 zone placement for comercial,residential and industrial

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was it ever implemented?

pallid orchid
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there TTT building

idle solstice
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yeah

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but zone placement?

pallid orchid
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and if you have debug and experiment on you can go to any lvl TTT or lower to see all homes you can have

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or place on your own

idle solstice
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ik

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prob im wrong

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sorry

ember heron
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Density 3

candid drift
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I don't think that ever existed

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I have been playing before airports were added to Theotown, and there were no density 3 zones.

pallid orchid
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no

idle solstice
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yeah

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i played before airports existed

pallid orchid
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there only 2 xd i just said about the secret house placements

idle solstice
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only experimental

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i think

candid drift
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That requires experimental mode

idle solstice
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i dont have debug and i still can see it tho

bronze moon
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there has never been an official release of any zone type 3 variants

idle solstice
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hm

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weird

chrome moon
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can I edit a TT save?

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also how do i make a suggestion bot?

arctic galleon
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@chrome moon what do you mean by "Edit a save?"

chrome moon
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like change how much money one city has

arctic galleon
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ah

chrome moon
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and change its rank (e.g turning a hamlet into a metropolis)

versed timber
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No that's not possible

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That'd be like cheating

mellow kettle
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It is

chrome moon
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oh

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well

mellow kettle
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Using pickle mode which is limited to devs

versed timber
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Language

chrome moon
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sorry

dull forge
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Hey did y'all fix intercity bank yet

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Including newer one

chrome moon
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wow my suggestion about the Big Boy park has 4 upvotes, 4 neutral votes, and 4 downvotes

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Balanced, as all should be

covert kestrel
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not anymore

chrome moon
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what is going on?

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my suggestion may just implode into a black hole

mellow kettle
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It already exists in the game

amber moat
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just got a map with no water

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nat

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neat

amber moat
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oh, theres one square of water

candid drift
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we choose you
not them
we are searching for highly intelligent individuals
message me.

valid frigate
candid drift
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we choose you
not them
we are searching for highly intelligent individuals
message me.

valid frigate
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wat @candid drift

candid drift
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dm me, if you are intelligent enough.

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?

valid frigate
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Ok

versed timber
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@candid drift don't advertise

candid drift
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na i'm inviting people to a puzzle game.

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i'm trying to make the invitation appealing.

versed timber
turbid flume
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well let me say now

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anyone who is a veteran in TT?

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ive been playing even b4 the currency theon was even announced

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b4 plugins

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b4 regions

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and that was version alpha

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but the earliest memories of playing TT

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is version 252

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now its version 606

covert kestrel
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i started playing before plugins existed

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i guess

odd path
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I started play this game since 2017

pallid orchid
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me 2016/2017

turbid flume
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i played during 2015

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or even 2014

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but that was when I was 11!

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now im 15

candid drift
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theotown came out somewhere at 2015

pallid orchid
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Lol

bronze moon
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@candid drift theotown has existed for over 10 years now, though not always on android

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android has been since 2015

idle mist
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G

turbid flume
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oh

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maybe fake memories had appeared

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but i definitely played in 2016

dull forge
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Everyone making building plugin but we need road sign plugin or more road plugin decorations etc.

turbid flume
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everyone

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i suggest this

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what if we make annual awards to people who had achieved some kind of "thing" in TT

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like "best plugin"

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or even "most popular plugin of the year"

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where the players vote for it

dull forge
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Also how come every time make a suggestions ppl hit red X box lol

bronze moon
turbid flume
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no

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i didnt mean

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i meant by yearly

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and only plugins on that year

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where it will be done on december

bronze moon
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that could be possible, however the plugins made each year, thats a huge amount of plugins to feature xD

turbid flume
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ya..

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so recommendations should be done

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and i expect the voting for around 2 months

vital falcon
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@bronze moon maybe photo of the week: every winner gets ... diamonds

solemn mural
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June 3rd.....

pallid orchid
vague matrix
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What's the price

pallid orchid
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$7 or more depents on country

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but its 7 in eu

vague matrix
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Fair

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Depending on how many packs it includes

pallid orchid
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it has everything lol

vague matrix
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Then it's a good deal

deep holly
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Even though I dont really play many city builders on PC, Imma get it anyways. Nice to have my city open on the side while I study lol

pallid orchid
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now you can move all tt map files of mobile on 3 june on you 66 folder

vague matrix
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Plugin editing is much easier now

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Since you don't need to mess about with emulators

candid drift
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I think Theotown gameplay will be better on the PC

pallid orchid
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you dont need emulators @vague matrix

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its just an option

candid drift
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Bigger screen, you don't really have to worry about low battery

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And there will probably be no premium currency

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I used to play Simcity 4, but it stopped working on my computer for some reason

vague matrix
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Emulators is much much easier though

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Rather than doing everything on your phone

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Pc development is so much better

candid drift
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Doing it on the phone on the computer

vague matrix
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Now that's 200 iq

pallid orchid
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not really

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best thing is to stream it to your pc

vague matrix
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Steam link to your phone

deep holly
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Man it would be really cool if the game had controller support ๐Ÿ˜„

supple kettle
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Suggestions for PC Theotown

  1. Draggable Roads
  2. Draggable Zones
  3. Expandable Mini Map
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  1. Larger Map Sizes
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  1. Fix New Toolbox (it's so complex you have to click thing to get to another thing something more simple would be better)
bronze moon
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4 is already doable via console

supple kettle
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yeah but thats for regions

bronze moon
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You could also devide a region in separate bigger maps

supple kettle
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Theotown Suggestions (All Platforms)

  1. News Reports would make the game more interesting and being able to interact with them would be better

  2. Comment Section to Screenshot Gallery

  3. Parades?

  4. Realistic Floods

  5. Tourism (Example Landmarks,Parks,Sports can boost tourism which will lead to income)

bronze moon
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I mean, they are good ideas, perhaps mind putting them in #suggestions ?

supple kettle
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I did

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Im doing them rn tho

dry hedge
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I need some ideas for airports

pure robin
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@supple kettle I had already discussed draggable roads and zones with Lobby as part of a new control scheme for pc he agreed so it's likely on June 3rd we might see it in action ๐Ÿ‘

lyric forge
supple kettle
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That's Great! So excited @pure robin

lyric forge
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@deep holly you know?

deep holly
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Know what?

lyric forge
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@deep holly above

deep holly
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Make sure to have buses running to that station.

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Thats likely your issue if you have none.

mystic ruin
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@deep holly yall get rid of the rp section or am i banned from it again (for no ligit reason if so) xd

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Just wondering

deep holly
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@mystic ruin The rpm channel was terminated. Dont worry lol

mystic ruin
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Ok :D

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Just was wondering scince i like to plant myself there befor popping off the server

mellow kettle
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@pure robin it won't be dragable

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But it have a preview of where it will go

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You select one place

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And once you drag around the mouse it would show where it would build

vernal sparrow
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u forgot crying bear.jpg emogi

lavish gulch
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Guys what is more big? Collossal or Giant?

odd path
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Giant

keen flame
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Giany brother

pallid orchid
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Gaint is the biggest and the one that takes a long time to save

lavish gulch
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Ok mah brothas thanks

vague matrix
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That's where pc comes in

mellow kettle
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@vague matrix pc won't support bigger maps

vague matrix
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But at least it won't lag

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My phone basically dies when I load up a gaint map

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Do we get more plugin space on pc?

odd path
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or more plugin space for Android and only limits to your phone space

mellow kettle
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No

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4096x4096

vague matrix
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Big oof

odd path
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Oofy

vague matrix
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But why

odd path
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I think It will crash the game or lag too much

vague matrix
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surely 16gb of ddr4 does the trick

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PCs are magnitudes more powerful than phones

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So performance can't be the problem

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Probably something code related is my best guess

ember heron
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10 days left

odd path
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For the update

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nice timing bcuz that day is the first day of school

mellow kettle
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It's vram related

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Not ram

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Normal is 2048x2048

ember heron
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I don't even know what vram is but whatever

vague matrix
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Graphics ram

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Well not really

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Still pc CPUs have more than arm ones

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Especially when a graphics card is present

jaunty ether
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:bear.png:

candid drift
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Is the android update coming on the same day as the PC release?

solemn mural
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Yes

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June 3rd

vital falcon
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Oof

jaunty ether
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Big oof

odd path
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Oof

ivory violet
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Hi I've got a problem

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I already have a city on the map

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But whenever I try to access it the only option I'm given is to start a new one

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Also is there always supposed to be some world called favotix

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That has like big Ben and stuff

candid drift
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@ivory violet Tap the Load City and find the map name

ivory violet
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Nothing in load city

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The city is in that map

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The one selected there

turbid flume
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the only way pc can load bigger maps is through bluestacks

ivory violet
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Omg you're the guy who did the ocbc building right?

candid drift
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I have a some kind of weird question

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what's the size of one tile

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in meters

charred flame
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@candid drift Hmmm..

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I suppose that it is only about 5.33mยฒ

candid drift
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8 days till mountains...

odd path
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Elevated..here I come

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:(

alpine rampart
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has a chance of appearing a natural disaster in my city?

ivory violet
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can someone explain how to do overpass and tunnels

keen flame
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@ivory violet wellp

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Overpasss works for some highway to avoid traffic and continues flow of it

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For example

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Is a big intersection in the middle of your city

odd path
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There's a setting there that you can set natural disasters to automatic @alpine rampart

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And they will appear to your city.

keen flame
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And that intersection is very very busy that almost half of the population of your city usess it

odd path
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Elevated Terrain

Now this June 3.

keen flame
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Thats why government do someover pass to avoid big intersection becoming a big mess when its in rush hour

odd path
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Add x128 traffic for a insame traffic lmao

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An*

keen flame
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Plus overpass helps cars truck andd other vechiels to pass smoothly to each other without colliding nor doing a big traffric jam

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When it comes to tunnels

odd path
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Hmmmm...

keen flame
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Tunnels help birdges to the work they cant do specialy in wide riverss where ship and planes pass bridge do the work in shpping lanes

odd path
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Make a big overpass on a city

keen flame
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While tunnels do the work for planes cause building a bridge in the path of aa plane can be very diffficult

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Specially when the bridge iss very tall

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Example off this is the oresund bridge

odd path
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Will plane crash the bridge?

keen flame
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Sorth offf if the path of the plane is in the course off it

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They do this because there airport is close to the birdge which connects two cities

ivory violet
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I asked moreso how to make them lol

keen flame
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@ivory violet which one?

ivory violet
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Overpass and tunnel

keen flame
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But you saaidd can someone explain๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

candid drift
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That's the Macau x China x hongkong bridge right

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Short answer: Tunnels and bridges prevents an intersection

keen flame
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@candid drift uhhh wrong

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Oresund bridge bruhh

candid drift
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Aight

keen flame
ivory violet
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Ok so how do you make overpasses and tunnels

keen flame
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This is one of mine

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@ivory violet you mean in game?

ivory violet
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yes

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in game

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also is the free resources thing just for one citty

weary peak
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It is

keen flame
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@ivory violet well you could start on four by four highways and the one whose in the outer part

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Can be your exit

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Either expresswaays highways

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Or interstate

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Doing an overpass need some angle like what officer nobby has done to his highway

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If that exit is going left or right

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Like thiss one

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This is aa quick interchange overpass

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Like i said

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You need to build an exit in the outer lane aaand wether its going left or right

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Or just both

ivory violet
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If you use diamonds to get the free option where you have unlimited money for the city

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Is that a one off?

keen flame
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@ivory violet now that is what idunno

dull forge
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@keen flame hey

odd path
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Wello

keen flame
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@dull forge heyy broi

ember heron
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I thought they made the tunnels for boats and ships to pass through as well?

candid drift
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Hiw do I suggest

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How do I suggest

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@pure robin

pure robin
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/suggest in #bot-commands

candid drift
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Ok

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Thx

pure robin
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๐Ÿ‘

mystic ruin
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It would be nice to have the ability to delete failed plugins from within the app

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And not be given a fairly useless pop up

deep holly
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Yeah. The only issue is that it would involve managing plugins, which are installed in the plugins folder, within the app. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but it's a bit of a bigger issue.

gritty delta
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Unpopular opinion: making creative mode a thing you have to pay diamonds for is the worst thing to happen to this game

candid drift
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there were a lot of unpopular things during the game's development

gritty delta
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I stopped playing a while back and this is what i come back to

candid drift
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but anyway developers need something to eat so

gritty delta
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Look how they massacred my boy

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I pretty much only played creative most of the time

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And you have to get to level 64 to unlock it permenantly

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I didn't even know level 64 was a thing

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I thought it capped at 20

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jfc

deep holly
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@gritty delta Honestly I'd say that unpopular opinion would be the opposite argument; that it's a good thing.

floral radish
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I would rather buy diamonds and keep sandbox then slog though level 64. I'm too lazy

deep holly
#

The problem is most people dont understand the development cycle of the game, and the basic monetization which it requires to survive and be updated.

floral radish
#

So buying diamonds is not enough support from me ?

deep holly
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No it is.

floral radish
#

(They should make a Theotown Patreon)

deep holly
#

Well not sure what the benefits would be from the patreon. Like for example content which could be posted or given as a result of being one.

floral radish
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As a benefit to supporters or to the devs

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To the devs it has obvious benefits of a constant source of income.

deep holly
#

Yeah Ik theres obviously that, but usually the patreon host sends special secret stuff as rewards to the patrons. I'm not sure what that content could be.

floral radish
#

For supporters for one you feel good about yourself. They can also do things such as adding you to the credits and perhaps you (as well as people who earned it in other ways) can have access to the alpha and such

deep holly
#

Not too bad of an idea tbh. Idk how easily sustainable it would be, but it would offer people a direct way to support the game.

floral radish
#

Mhm It would probally be made of people that are very interested and invested in the game as well. Because I mean what better thing to do if you love a game than support it

plush osprey
#

Maybe they could also give them a couple hundred diamonds and a landmark pack.

floral radish
#

That also is a good thing for patrons ^-^

bronze moon
#

What would the difference be then between buying a landmark pack or donating on patreon and receiving a landmark pack

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Basically the same thing, just the way in which you get it is slightly different

floral radish
#

Meh it's a work in progress

vernal sparrow
#

...

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I hope get my diamonds Everytime the premium players get my Plugins

floral radish
#

You should if they use the plugin store

vernal sparrow
#

Yes but they haven't the diamond currency

floral radish
#

It should either be a plugin currency or no plugins if dats how it goes

#

If the iOS people had a sensible device they could have just used the forums and gotten the old versions

vernal sparrow
candid drift
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@floral radish Old versions of Theotown have much, much less content than the current version

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Even if they dont have as many things that cost diamonds

vernal sparrow
#

:(

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I hope getting my diamonds

floral radish
#

Not the old versions of theotown by jolly

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The old versions of the PLUGINS

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@candid drift

floral radish
#

(I was referencing the ability to download plugins from the forums without using the store if you wanted free plugins)

vernal sparrow
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Ik but they get them directly

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from the main Shop

floral radish
#

Either way there should be a way to blacklist plugins from the IOS version then

mystic ruin
#

@deep holly maybe instead of a plugin folder within the app (god the thought of the idea that i have to crack the app itself to get to the plugins folder makes me wanna kill myself) we should have a attachment folder something like theotown.plugins that way us mobile users (the majority of the games users) can delete and remove plugins as we see fit

#

its not like every other modded game has this kind of feature

#

WHICH THEY DO

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Sure it may be a hassle to literally just disable the pop up that completely and utterly blocks u from playing the game if per say a plugin creator, idk, deleted or disabled there plugin

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Im literally left with the only option to uninstall the entire game and reinstall it, becuase i dont know how to access the files of theo town, like nearly every other player who simply plays the game.

#

Sry for the rant, but truely, its a fairly stupid design to say the least.

supple kettle
#

What Device you on

floral radish
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I think that only applies gto IOS

supple kettle
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Yeah

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That's why I'm asking for his device

floral radish
#

(Which is basically still in the works since the dev is new to IOS stuff)

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So i suppose that the IOS app will change alot compared to the normal one even if most of the changes are under the hood

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@mystic ruin Oi are you talking IOS because in the Android version (most of the playerbase) We do not have that problem

supple kettle
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Yeah

versed timber
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you can't edit IOS files

floral radish
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If it is put your device & the problem in #bugs-n-crashes ??? So the dev can fix it

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Yeah I know that

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One of the reasons Why I dislike it

deep holly
#

@floral radish we has talking about the ways which the folder plugins could be managed from ingame. The one downside of that though is that it would turn the android version into something similar as on iOS where you need to crack your games local files (in the case of theotown,) to install plugins. Idk if that would really happen though, as Minecraft for instance allows modifications to its local files, for example the worlds, seamlessly.

floral radish
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Wma why not make two separate versions in that case on the two stores. Because to change the way the Androud works would cause uneccary hassle to a large portion. But changing the IOS version would help that minority. It would be...unlikely to have to transfer data in between but a converter could also be implemented if that would mess something up

candid drift
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@floral radish Sorry, I misunderstood you

mystic ruin
#

@deep holly @floral radish
3rd party apps can do this

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Having a 3rd party installer instead of using the app itself

deep holly
#

Yeah I think having a second app to install plugins is out of the question. At least as far as I see. ๐Ÿ˜„

mystic ruin
#

Well, ill put it this way

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If the plugin part is essentially a vital organ to ur game

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Than u as a developer went down the wrong rabit hole

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To me, thats a very bad thing to do. Sure it may be alright for PC and such

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But for the mobile community as a whole, its horrible and fairly unsmart

versed timber
#

The only one it doesn't work for is IOS

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Samsungs can manage plugins easily

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Most of the devices come with a file manager

mystic ruin
#

As i said, its would be great to disable the pop up

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Like most children, we dont know how to sift thru storage and find exact files

versed timber
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then watch the how to

floral radish
#

Many many tutorials. It's quite simple on Android

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It's not hidden in the device

versed timber
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It's quite simple

mystic ruin
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._.

floral radish
#

Its is on the main folder of the device

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Named Theotown

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.-. I dunno that expression

mystic ruin
#

i wanna die for not thinking of how to videos

versed timber
#

oof

mystic ruin
#

oof ร—.ร—

floral radish
#

How you have trouble finding the Theotown folder you can type Theotown in the search bar and it will show up

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If you are*

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The only folder in there I dont know whatbits for is the scripting folder...it justbshowed up a couple updates ago

deep holly
#

@mystic ruin I do understand what you mean though. The plugin system should be easy to access. No matter what people say, needing to exit the game to tinker in the file system for anything sets apart a large portion of the userbase. For example, Minecraft has the marketplace as a workaround for this where they can easily offer extra content in an organized store within the game. Theotown has the same thing with the plugin store, which although I think could use some more frequent updating, works perfectly for those types of people, on any platform.

turbid flume
#

@ivory violet yes yes yes i am the guy who make the OCBC

turbid flume
#

@odd path how do u even get gems

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well i dun even care this part for 2 years

#

but i started and found this

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so how?

#

(btw thx for 500)

odd path
#

Look on a #bot-commands

solemn mural
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ I can't wait until June 3rd ahhhhhhhhhhh

#

Taking so many days....

forest vector
wheat crater
#

The fence next to it classes as a road

forest vector
#

@wheat crater ok

#

#Theotown news
26/05/2019
1:south new yokyo city get 2 new aircraft carrier and a old battle ship
2:south new yokyo city build a international communication canter.ย 
3:alitas district's people now access under ground road

weary peak
#

@forest vector You know #town-square isn't for roleplay right?

forest vector
#

@weary peak i know but it's a daily news report

weary peak
#

But that's.. roleplay..? Uhhhhhh

#

@bronze moon help, does this fall under roleplay? ^^

real girder
#

there isnt an roleplay chat anymore

bronze moon
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We dont have a roleplay

#

@forest vector I appreciate your take on the gallery, it's fun, but please post about it in #365517365309603840 if you will

turbid flume
#

how much TT costs on windows

vital falcon
#

@forest vector I cannot upload photos. Can you help me?

versed timber
#

To what?

forest vector
#

@bronze moonok next time i post this post in general

bronze moon
#

thankyou

gritty delta
#

How do I build roads next to each other without them connecting to each other where I tap when I place the road

pure robin
#

There's a tab on the top right

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That enables and disables that

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It shows up when you build roads

gritty delta
jaunty ether
#

Enable experimental features @gritty delta

gritty delta
#

Ah right I forgot about that

#

Havent played in a while

jaunty ether
#

Ohhh okay ^^

proud flame
#

Dang...

#

Just realized the hyper lane is only available on Android

vernal sparrow
#

Xd

rare stratus
#

Sent the report, but anyone understand the problem?

#

Happens everytime I open the game

charred flame
#

Can you try disabling the latest plug-in taht you had before that problem?

turbid flume
#

how much TT costs in steam!!!???

#

cuz my emulator destroys mah computer

charred flame
#

Depends on your country

#

I think that it is around $5.5-$8 though

turbid flume
#

haaaaaaaa

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im a free player

#

btw

#

i saw a name lobby divinus in TT's apk download page

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sounds familiar?

mellow kettle
#

That's the developer

vernal sparrow
#

TT APK?

#

In download page?

pallid orchid
#

Offline

pallid orchid
#

He's online when he talks to you

charred flame
#

What happened to Lobby?

#

He did not made an appearance for quite some time now. Is he doing fine?

odd path
#

I think he's taking care of the update rn

mellow kettle
#

He isn't available yet.

royal valve
#

@turbid flume Steam is ยฃ7

#

@charred flame Imagine being in Lobby's place

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No wait

#

Imagine being in THEO's place

pallid orchid
#

Xd

candid birch
#

OMG I NEED THESE BUILDINGS

#

Are they on the plugin store??

supple kettle
#

Copyrighted Buildings

#

I assume

#

They look familiar

lavish gulch
#

Hi

supple kettle
#

@forest vector this your city?

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@lavish gulch hello

lavish gulch
#

Hows your day mate?

odd path
#

What is different between copyrighted buildings and not?

supple kettle
#

Copyrighted Buildings are buildings you take from the internet and put them into theotown

#

You won't get in trouble for doing it but you just can't take the work and say it's yours

lavish gulch
#

True

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@supple kettle You in theotown rp forum?

supple kettle
#

No Just the Discord RP

lavish gulch
#

Oh

odd path
#

Okay..now I know

forest vector
#

@supple kettle no my city name is always Kolkata 2

supple kettle
#

So who's city is it?

#

๐Ÿค”

dull forge
#

Hey anyone on

#

Want to know what app y'all use for pre made region to be made

#

Want to draw a region that I want to be made before update is live

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Pls

keen flame
#

@supple kettle russian guy i think

dull forge
#

Anyone can help me

bronze moon
#

@dull forge there is no separate app for creating regions?

dull forge
#

Ok

dull forge
#

What make great city to have city of the weeks

carmine spindle
#

Thats a good idea @dull forge

astral mauve
#

You think this game will have multiplayer?

#

Cause I'm down to build a really big city with someone else.

#

For example: Somone can lay out format while the other does decoration designs.

#

OOOooh It sounds fun.

dire iron
#

Multiplayer in TheoTown
IMO it'll take a lot of time to do this

#

But sounds fun

versed timber
#

The code isn't made for multiplayer so it's very unlikely

candid drift
#

Hey question

#

Why was the update for Android postponed to the 3rd

mystic ruin
#

Idk, ask google

astral mauve
#

Just like how it's unlikely to make a nightime mode in the game.

#

But wait there's a plugin that allows a night time and a sun set.

#

By lobby I think.

#

I'll you need to do is make every building have a glowing light pixel in every window. This also benifets street lights witch is a street decoration. They can light up you roads for you.

#

It's possible but will probably take a whole 3 years to complete or more concidering how many buildings we make every apdate with out the glow.

#

And every plugin buildings with out glow.

#

It's just that long and hard

lyric forge
#

Yeh, same, but it's good for realism too

astral mauve
#

*Think about itbear_thinking *

#

Unless!!!!!

#

You had a huge team of people willing enough for the task. It'll shorten in how long it'll take to be done and ready about minus 1 year maybe.bear_shrug

lyric forge
#

Yeh, it's good tho

dull forge
#

Have anyone ever notice there no US highway but there US road

#

Can someone teach me how to post stuff in suggestions pls

odd path
#

Do (/suggest [whatever you say])

#

On #bot-commands

dull forge
#

Tyvm

versed timber
#

@dull forge the game is based off Germany

astral mauve
dull forge
#

Ik you told me just ideas that all

viscid goblet
#

Could anyone help me figure this little issue out? I want to create a size 16 region that is round. I found something that works for a size 12 region but I donโ€™t know how the maths works when it comes to this.

#

This is the formula I found. cr:{name:"Round",seed:"1451379981",size:12,maps:[4,4,4,4,0,4,0,4,4,8,4,4,4,8,4,2,2,2,8,2,2,2,8,2,8,8,2,2,1,1,3,1,1,8,1,1,9,1,1,1,2,1,1,3,1,1,8,1,1,9,1,10,2,1,10,3,1,10,8,1,10,9,1,2,10,1,3,10,1,8,10,1,9,10,1]}

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

viscid goblet
#

I hate to spam, is anyone able to help?

versed timber
#

Once all of the Europeans wake up one of them should be able to

viscid goblet
#

Lol alrighty then.

versed timber
#

I've never been good with that stuff lol

viscid goblet
#

I mean I could try and figure it out, but thereโ€™s so many unknown variables.

candid drift
#

Hi

pallid orchid
#

@viscid goblet ello that may works for you but maybe not

gritty delta
#

What's the difference between local and regional traffic

#

For train platforms

#

I assume regional is between cities so I have a regional platform in 2 cities and the trains kinda just disappear after leaving the station

#

Ping with help

ivory kelp
candid drift
#

Hi there

#

Sorry Im new and i have a problem

#

I reinstalled the game and the plugins i had downloaded before still are there. I mean I have no plugins installed rn but theyโ€™re still showing

#

On Ipad

#

How i delete them?

ocean zephyr
#

@candid drift How did you install the plugins?

pallid orchid
#

@candid drift where did you install the Plugins

Also maybe have an management app if ios supports that

candid drift
#

Directly from the in app store

pallid orchid
#

Click delete on the plugin

ocean zephyr
#

Then just disable them

#

Yea

pallid orchid
#

You have it gone But you can install it any time after

candid drift
#

No I mean

#

I downloaded before I reinstalled

#

And after I no longer have them on the installed

#

but still show app in game..

pallid orchid
#

Look in Deleted tab

candid drift
#

Nope

pallid orchid
#

Hmm'm

#

Do you remember what plugins you installed?

#

And lost but not lost

candid drift
#

I tried to redownload one of them, disabled, redeleted.. nothing ๐Ÿ˜ฉ Iโ€™m not sure if i can manage files on ios, but gonna try some app..

#

Thank you anyways!!

mellow kettle
#

Restart the game

vital falcon
viscid goblet
#

Is anyone on that is able to answer my earlier question regarding the circular region size?

versed timber
#

@bronze moon how does region size work? Asking for @viscid goblet

viscid goblet
#

Thank you!

bronze moon
#

I know how region sizes work, but I doubt if it's possible to customly create a circular one like you want

#

There standard flat world that's in the game was custom made by the devs, but I'm not sure if it's an option via the regular console available to all

viscid goblet
#

@bronze moon I posted the format I found on the forums. It worked for me even on iOS, Iโ€™m just not sure how to make it a larger region.

bronze moon
#

If the circular format does work, expanding the map should work by just expanding the separate map sizes by the same factor

#

So make each separate map 2 bigger, and the total map size, and you should end up with a larger region

#

Behold that your device can handle it of course

versed timber
#

Remains I have to show you something ๐Ÿ˜‚

viscid goblet
#

Hmmmm, alrighty then Iโ€™ll test it out.

desert cape
#

@mellow kettle do you think you can send me the trains textures ( ICE , train stations and rails ) ? i am working on a depot that can spawn trains ( instead of the station spawning them ) . Also i would like if i could have the tag for trains and for the tollgate

mellow kettle
#

Tollgate doesn't have a tag

#

It isn't released yet for everyone

viscid goblet
#

@bronze moon Iโ€™m not sure what monstrosity Iโ€™ve created but the game hasnโ€™t crashed, yet. Itโ€™s still processing.

bronze moon
#

xD, let me know what the outcome will be

viscid goblet
#

I definitely will. The region size is 24 but every map was multiplied by 2. If my iPad can handle this Iโ€™d be surprised.

bronze moon
#

24!

#

jeeeez, im very very curious if the game will handle that yeah

#

i usually reccomend with the android version at least to not go above 14 ish due to lag xD

viscid goblet
#

I honestly am shocked

#

The console doesnโ€™t even show the entire command because itโ€™s so long

bronze moon
#

damn

mellow kettle
#

Nice

#

Please show me if it corrupted

viscid goblet
#

Hold on. The screenshot is too large

bronze moon
#

welp, im truly impressed

viscid goblet
#

I fully expected it to either a. Crash the game and corrupt the map or b. Be corrupted from the get go.

#

I donโ€™t think Iโ€™m gonna go for a size 48 though lol

#

That might actually crash the game

versed timber
#

@bronze moon just to confirm Lobby and Theo are both German aren't they?

bronze moon
#

lobby 100%, theo i believe so yes

versed timber
bronze moon
#

sure, go for it

viscid goblet
#

Thought I should probably post the region formula that I just tested for anyone who wants to mess around with it (do so at your own risk) cr:{name:"insert region name",seed:"insert seed",size:24,maps:[8,8,8,8,0,8,0,8,8,16,8,8,8,16,8,4,4,4,16,4,4,4,16,4,16,16,4,4,2,2,6,2,2,16,2,2,18,2,2,2,4,2,2,6,2,2,16,2,2,18,2,20,4,2,20,6,2,20,16,2,20,18,2,4,20,2,6,20,2,16,20,2,18,20,2]}

bronze moon
versed timber
#

Bet me to it lol

viscid goblet
#

Thanks, @bronze moon I appreciate it.

mellow kettle
#

Impressive @viscid goblet

#

10/10

versed timber
#

low ploy picture for anyone who wants to see it

viscid goblet
#

I still canโ€™t believe it worked @mellow kettle

mellow kettle
#

Wanna generate another one?

viscid goblet
#

I was planning on doing another so yeah

versed timber
mellow kettle
#

Can you pick the seed as 'pickle'

versed timber
viscid goblet
#

Just put โ€œpickleโ€ in the seed part?

mellow kettle
#

Yes

viscid goblet
#

I mean sure, why the hell not

desert cape
#

OMG what is the seed of this map ? @versed timber

mellow kettle
#

@desert cape TheoTown 66 exclusive generation

desert cape
#

best one i've ever saw

versed timber
#

pins

desert cape
#

well, i do have TheoTown 66 on IOS

viscid goblet
#

Itโ€™s processing.

candid drift
#

that's not funny

#

;-;

mellow kettle
#

It's not my fault exceptions occur

#

Oh

#

Wait

#

It is

viscid goblet
#

The test failed, retrying. Now I have 3 corrupted maps that I canโ€™t get rid of

astral mauve
#

When a new region comes to theotown:Aw s*,here we go again.

mellow kettle
#

@viscid goblet oof

astral mauve
#

I'm in a server that has an international category.(Only speak this language only). Pretty neat.

dull forge
#

Car look way to funny going that way

versed timber
#

The game isn't techinally made to have vertical roads, so the cars where made for it

dull forge
#

Hmm well that something look into

versed timber
#

plus to redo them all would take alot of texture space

dull forge
#

Ok

astral mauve
#

This is exactly why I didn't get vertical roads.

#

It's a great feture but car animation isn't mad for it.

dull forge
#

Yea

astral mauve
#

Curse my lack of text!!!!

#

Nyaaaah!

viscid goblet
#

Correction: 4 corrupted worlds

#

And I still donโ€™t know how to delete them. Even console commands donโ€™t work

#

I have a strange feeling the game will only allow 1 size 24 region per game (at least on iOS) now if I could find a way to delete corrupted worlds thatโ€™d be great.

bronze moon
#

@viscid goblet you could manually delete them from the files using a file manager app

viscid goblet
#

A file manager app? Do you know of any that would work for the iOS version?

bronze moon
#

im not a frequent user of apple devices so i'm afraid not

viscid goblet
#

Alright, Iโ€™ll look into it and see if I can find one.

viscid goblet
#

Unfortunately I canโ€™t find anything. Unless the developers add some sort of internal file system that a user can look at and modify, or a region delete button on the region select screen then Iโ€™m stuck with the 4 corrupted regions. At least I have one big ass region that works lol

mellow kettle
#

There should be a command to delete it

viscid goblet
#

I used that, they just keep popping back up

mellow kettle
#

Hm

proud flame
#

Um

#

When I put the thing in it gave me something different

versed timber
#

it's for 66 only

proud flame
#

I did put it in 66

versed timber
#

what did it come as?

proud flame
#

It did crash my game though...

versed timber
#

Then it's likely your phone can't handle it

dull forge
#

@versed timber you there

versed timber
#

Yes?

dull forge
#

When I download stuff from plugin store n zip file it do I move the file to manage plugin or just plugin file under theotown folder

versed timber
#

Just plugin

dull forge
#

Ok thx

versed timber
#

Your welcome

final parcel
#

How come absolutely no one is using the trains in my city? I gave them trains, above grround trains, and a metro but they are using none of them.

dull forge
#

Depend how big your city is

#

N how much they need it

keen flame
#

@proud flame bruhhh

#

How many regions is thaqt

#

That

viscid goblet
#

@mellow kettle how do I make a suggestion? I would like to suggest a delete button for the region select screen so that in the event a person creates a corrupted region (or 4) a person could delete said corrupted region.

#

@mellow kettle never mind I think I figured it out.

proud flame
#

22

keen flame
#

@proud flame can you take a picture of the whole map

ember heron
#

five

proud flame
#

I donโ€™t think there is an option too on iOS

mellow kettle
#

@proud flame seed?

slate stag
#

Guys anyone know how many pixels in a lvl 1 bridge

#

???

proud flame
#

Oh wait i think I know what went wrong

ivory kelp
#

5days untiul the update for android and release for PC

final parcel
#

@dull forge My city city is pretty big, and the rails run next to the main population center.

dull forge
#

Ok

candid drift
#

Hey do you guys have any coold theotown seed ?

dull forge
#

I need good map to build on

#

With river in the Middle

#

Anyone here got one pls

mystic ruin
#

@dull forge what size map and ill scroll thru seeds for ya

keen flame
#

@mystic ruin mee to

#

I need giant

mystic ruin
#

Watchu need in the map?

keen flame
#

Also river in the middle brooo

mystic ruin
#

:< idky

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But im unable to load up giant and colasul maps

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I was able to just abit ago

lost trench
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Hi guys

mystic ruin
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Nvm figured it out

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Found 2

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._.

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I guess u can try this list and see what u like

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Ima keep looking for a simple river down the center or so

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1657868613
93061884
42
1345665656
1460246433
1474450777

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Type one seperatly then just cut XD

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1445264592

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This one looks alright as well

dull forge
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Colossal size map @mystic ruin

mystic ruin
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With a river down mid?

dull forge
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Yes

mystic ruin
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Ill look

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I booted my game up to this seed randomly generated

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1602501454

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This one looks nice, but not rlly a river

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RIVER

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Multi river seed
104521234

candid drift
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Hello I am back

keen flame
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@mystic ruin eyyy brooo thank youuu๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ’“

mystic ruin
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Np

spare lagoon
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colossal*

vital falcon
hybrid oyster
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Wow

ember heron
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Four

candid drift
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Five

versed timber
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If were get technical the Domaskis (probably misspelled) Embassy is the tallest thing in game

candid drift
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Wut

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I will remake that landmark 81 soon

plush osprey
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I suggest making it in a darker blue color

candid drift
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Yeah

vast cliff
candid drift
main condor
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NEIN

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CITADEL

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biggest boi out there

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the blue skyscraper

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anything taller than that and the game just errors

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its 12x12

jaunty ether
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Domkisas Embassy VS ยฝ LIFE 2 Citadel

supple kettle
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I remember when the Dream Tower holded number one

jaunty ether
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What that

unkempt shoal
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Hi, just got the game for iOS. How far from the road does zones work? Residential seems only to build two squares from the road while commercial can build further. Can I finds this information somewhere?

versed timber
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It's based on the level of building, most of the big residential buildings are 4x4 while the commercials can get up to 8x8. What I would recommend is building the zone 4 away from the road at most, and if you early on the put roads on both sides of the zone to maximize space

unkempt shoal
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Ok, so just like in Sim city then. Thanks.

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Is there a setting/plugin/trick so that roads etc doesn't build immediately? I'd like to draw them out and then confirm the build,

versed timber
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Not that I'm aware of, if you have any decal plugins then you could use them to "draw" where the roads would be

unkempt shoal
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Ah, too bad. I think it's strange roads and some doesn't have the confirmation button that other buildings have.

versed timber
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What buildings do on IOS?

unkempt shoal
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Well, all services I've seen so far.

versed timber
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Hmm, that's interesting

unkempt shoal
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I can drag any building around and when I've decided where to put it I tap the green checkmark in the top right of the screen.

versed timber
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Oh that!

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Yeah the only reason roads don't I think is because they are cheap

unkempt shoal
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Might be. But it's an inconsistent design choice.

versed timber
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Well the roads do have the green grid before you place them

unkempt shoal
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I know, but it would be "safer" if we could tap start, tap end, and then checkmark to confirm. Now it just builds right away after the second tap. But I suppose I'll get used to it.

versed timber
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If you would like you can use /suggest in #bot-commands to recommend that be added to the game

unkempt shoal
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Thanks, I might do that.

versed timber
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Your welcome, and welcome to our server and community by the way

unkempt shoal
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Thanks! I'm sure I'll pop in here often. I have played a lot of Sim City over the years and it seems like Theotown is a lot like it, but then there are some quirks here and there which makes it different.

versed timber
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Which of the Sim City series do you like the most?

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My personal favorite is Sim City 4

unkempt shoal
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I probably played sc2k most, but I too think sc4 is best.

versed timber
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Well if you ever need any help in the game just ask

unkempt shoal
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Thanks! Now it's very late here. Got to catch some ๐Ÿ’ค

versed timber
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Have a goodnight

dull forge
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Hey

vernal sparrow
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Dammit... There is may 31

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;-;

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I was hoping having TT 66 in 3 days

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Ugh... I'll have to way 4 days

ember heron
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Three

vernal sparrow
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It's 30

ancient ruin
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31 may

slate stag
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I just got an app called "Lending Cash" while browsing tru theotown portal

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Is that normal

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??

mellow kettle
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No

plush osprey
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Anyone know any sail boat decorations plugin?

slate stag
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@plush osprey there is no sail boat plugin unfortunately

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Ships and boats are few than vehicles

plush osprey
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Well that's a bummer

lavish gulch
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I have revenge

odd path
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?

keen flame
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@lavish gulch evill

lavish gulch
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Hey they hit one of my cities

ivory kelp
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3 days unitil the update

candid drift
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OMG My city are in danger

candid drift
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Hi ablobwave

odd path
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Hello

lapis merlin
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hey there

bronze moon
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Hi! Welcome to the TT server!

jaunty ether
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No
Welcome to TT66 server

torn whale
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@lapis merlin dont let remains' welcoming fool you, he is not as he seems

upbeat hedge
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Ight so theoretically, on a big tile, what is the maximum population a city can reach?

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My biggest city just hit 100,000 and its on a big tile and I have limited space left but still some

versed timber
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Some one has a million if I recall

dull forge
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Have anyone ever try to build a states

upbeat hedge
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Daaang a million is insane

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So, can you create regions now? I downloaded this game again like yesterday after not playing for a few months, and I saw that there is a 2nd default region now.

deep holly
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@upbeat hedge Yes you can create your own custom regions. #443739759844655104 has a link to a forum post on how to make them.

upbeat hedge
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Thanks!

viscid goblet
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The pinned post on this section of the discord shows a way to make a very large, round region. Though, Iโ€™d do so at your own risk

real girder
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why at your own risk

versed timber
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it has the possibly to crash if your phone can't handle it

real girder
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hmmm, get a better one

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just kidding