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[sour sinew]

wtf are you talking about

and once again the stats/record is there online to verify this

lmfao

[inland plover]

Rayo Vallecano is competing in Europe mate

they tied against real madrid

[sour sinew]

its almost has if madrid is shit?

that means nothing

rayo always has a good record

vs madrid

[inland plover]

Villarreal won their first ever international cup against Man United in the 2020s and got to UCL semifinals

[sour sinew]

even before 2022

what are you talking about

[inland plover]

you dont know what you say

[sour sinew]

messi was there in 2020?

what

we are talking after

messi and ronaldo left

??

[inland plover]

We are talking about prime era of Barca and Madrid

stop moving goalposts

[sour sinew]

even that

im still right

you still refuse

[inland plover]

Cristiano Ronaldo left Real Madrid in 2018

[sour sinew]

to check their record

continue

being hard headed

on purpose

[inland plover]

i said what I had to say, no point in continuing

[sour sinew]

"Now, most la liga clubs are NOT in ruins, they are okay. They have less money, because they arent allowed to just gamble it away, but they are okay. "

[inland plover]

ur wrong

[sour sinew]

WHICH IS A HUGE ISSUE

that la liga clubs are complaining about

considering the prem is eating them alive

a team from the second division qualifies tothe prem

and that money is more than the prize money of la liga winners

thats how bad its become

that all presidents are raising an issue

and tebas is under pressure for that exact reason

things are literally worse now 😭

do you not follow spanish politics

look at how dense you sound

[sour sinew]

again

hard headed

you said they were stronger intl before

i brought up the record

you ignore it

and say im not wrong without disapproving

same guy complaining that people argue like children and "its like tiktok"

when you are the one arguing like a complete child

[torpid halo]

Wolves 0-1 Forest

Igor Jesus

[inland plover]

I haven't insulted you once, and I take time to write my responses. It's clear who is unable to argue in a mature way

[sour sinew]

if you cant disapprove my point

and are just going to say " you are wrong"

and nothing

further

with me who has actual proof and stats from either orgs/ club presidents themselves

dont even bother arguing further hard headed moron

[inland plover]

aaaand that's another insult, add it to the basket

[inland plover]

i brought many different arguments, with many different teams, but i'm chatting with a wall

its been fun bro (not) but i have to go now, cheers

[sour sinew]

which i disapproved with stats

and la liga club presidents themselves agree with how bad things are now

but no worries slowlydrifting analyzed all this himself and knows more than all these guys clearly

[inland plover]

You don't know what you are saying, clubs in La Liga are not happy with the duopoly of Barca-Madrid, a duopoly that has been going on since forever. You have to go back to the early 00s to find La Liga's won by Deportivo or Valencia, and Barcelona being outside of UCL.
The financial situation in La Liga is a very complex one, and this idea that the finances have been as worse as ever is just wrong, get that to your head. Clubs were indebted before, understand that concept? What Tebas has done, love him or hate him, is that he has been trying to find ways to create income and make sure clubs DONT disappear and indebt themselves.

I don't necesarily agree with his ideas, or for example with the CVC deal, that ALL la liga clubs signed except for Barca, Madrid, Athletic Bilbao and Oviedo, but I dont really know how to solve the issue because its very complex.

The problem here is that the Premier League is simply financially on another stratosphere

Understand now what I am saying?

Yes, clubs in spain do not have much money, but they dont have DEBT either

they arent in threat of disappearance.

Which means they cant buy that much, but they can focus properly and get what is needed in a modest way. Such as keeping Nico Williams
Signing Antony, Villarreal doing record transfers
whatever

now kindly stop acting like u understand this issue when u clearly just want to be outraged and insult

[edgy magnet]

Bruh to the point liverpool match is so boring i am just doom scrolling on the insta reels and literally forgot about this match

How the hell did this liverpool team win the prem last season

[near plaza]

Been focused on the Arsenal vs Brentford game but can anyone give me the rundown on Chelsea and Leeds? Why did the London team collapse today?

[young socket]

We’ve played like shit

That’s why

3 goals 3 mistakes

Wrong passes

Missed chances

[near plaza]

Thank you for the run down mate.

[young socket]

Ref was consistent but consistently shit

[edgy magnet]

Wirtz scoring was not on my bucket list to end 2025

[fluid fox]

Most apps changed to own goal by now

[near plaza]

His mentality should go up a bit though. He forced the tie and saved Arne Slots career

Isak scoring last game. This team will come together soon, with or without Slot

[sour oracle]

So the bucket remains empty

[dire stratus]

mukiele ruined the hatewatch 😭

[heavy fjord]

Why

What game

[inland plover]

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[dire stratus]

that defelection ruined my hatewatch

sunderland vs liverpool

[dire stratus]

not a bad shot by wirtz tho

[tropic flint]

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[feral smelt]

Wirtz was great last night

Goal or no goal

Doesn’t take away how good he was

[dire stratus]

i agree

he does have games here and there but people say hes a total flop by only looking at his g/a

[granite notch]

Ahoy Lads

[cyan egret]

He was good against west ham too

Should sell salah now 🔥

[feral smelt]

To saudi

[dire stratus]

i have a feeling he will leav by himself before the new szn

[granite notch]

Or to flamengo

[dire stratus]

i dont think that will happen

saudi

[granite notch]

They have a ton or money

[dire stratus]

he has a good chance

[granite notch]

But i don’t doubt it

We already got Saúl and Samuel Lino

[dire stratus]

ik but salah playing in brazil ?
idts

[granite notch]

Jorginho played in brazil aswell xdddd

And for flamengo

[dire stratus]

well there are a few like him and then depay

[granite notch]

but salah in brasileirão would be SICK

[granite notch]

depai from corinthians

[dire stratus]

yes

[granite notch]

xdddd

[dire stratus]

i know he plays for corinthians i was just giving an example for a eu player playing in brazil

but its quite rare

depay too went for the money and something else but yea

salah already from close to that region so it is defenetely more likely for him to go to saudi

[granite notch]

What about Saúl?

He’s also in brazil

Having an absolute blast

[dire stratus]

the one from athleti ?

dint know he was even there

[granite notch]

Yeah!!!

He is xd

And he’s hella cool

And plays like a true men in a suit

[dire stratus]

damn

not bad ig

[cold furnace]

Change my mind bro:
Dalot shld play in double pivot

He works best inverted under eth

He can press the no.10 or no.8, he cant tackle but the cb can take care of it

He cant cross but he can pass to recycle possession absolute cinema

[granite notch]

Not bad at all!!!

[bright plank]

Chelsea legend

[dire stratus]

i wouldnt wanna change ur mind cuz i have been thinking the same thing
since ik amorin's stubborn ass wont change the formation he should atleast ues his LWB and RWB (amad and dalot in a better way)
i have saying this for a while that both dalot and amad cannot defend so the least they could do was press
the could shift inwards to to press the 10 while the one of the 3 CBs defend any potential runs from the oppsition winger

or

if the we need to use 2 8s to press the oppostion midfeild while the wingbacks can press the oppostion winger and if the dont manage to stop their runs the 3 CBs at the back should take care

but this will work best when we have to play more defensive as we dont really have any holding midfeilder

[cold furnace]

Fr whats wrong with man marking? Yoro mark lw, shaw on the rw...just win the midfield battle that shld be plan A

[dire stratus]

yes i think why ruben does not implement this is because by marking the wide players the defense ismore stretched and its easier for the striker or cam to receive long balls or throughs. this can be countered if we use a double pivot like u said or better just use a holding midfeilder
this will allow dalot or amad stay more higher up on the flanks so that they can play their more natural attacking role

[past fern]

New Daily Question:

#daily-question message

[dire stratus]

we should let our CBs carry the ball too much and come forward like maguire does sometimes this gets ver risky
it should be done by the holding midfeilder who receives the ball from the CB and carries it forward
if its in a tight situation then the ball can be crossed to the high wingbacks

[low rover]

I should probably start supporting my local

[dire stratus]

sure

are u from europe ?

[low rover]

Nah USA

So would be either a mls team or super super local shit lol

[granite notch]

Hell Yeah!

[dire stratus]

idk depends on how much u like ur most local team

[lost dawn]

Would as well but inter Miami ticket prices are diabolical

[granite notch]

How much on average?

[dire stratus]

arent all us games tickets expensive

[lost dawn]

Cheapest seats

For the game vs whitecaps

$276

Around 240 euros

[lost dawn]

Only when they’re facing inter Miami

The rest of the prices are actually normal

Ofc you need to bring in the revenue somehow am I right

[granite notch]

MY GOD

[cyan egret]

😭

150 or a bit more and you can get a season ticket here

[dire stratus]

yea fair
messi is the reason

[granite notch]

THAT’S LITERALLY 2 TICKETS FOR THE PLUS SECTORS ON MARACANÃ

[dire stratus]

💀

i mean is it even worth it going to mls games

there is hardly any drama in mls too

[cyan egret]

Not for the price but ye it is worth it to go and watch a final

[lost dawn]

Mind you the average seat is $150-800 for the SHIT SEATS

The good seats are from 900-1500

[dire stratus]

cup games are alright maybe once in a while that too maybe only semi finals or finals

but league games idk

[cyan egret]

We can get 3 season tickets with that

[lost dawn]

Just to go watch players who either shouldn’t be playing anymore or I’m sorry, others who shouldn’t be in the MLS

Also the fact alba and busquets are going to retire in like four months

I love the man but Messi’s done irreparable damage to the MLS

[dire stratus]

does ur stadium use ag pitches ?

i have seen many stadiums in the americas use ag pitches

i dont like them

[lost dawn]

Oh shit

Nvm

They’re going to retire after the game on December 6

Farewell to these legends

[granite notch]

what?

OOH

No maracanã does not

The ones who use are Allianz Parque, Ligga Arena, Arena MRV and Nilton Santos

[dire stratus]

hmm nice

[dire stratus]

oh ok
there are a few in the us too i think who use ag

[granite notch]

That stinks

I hate ag pitches

And as a wise man once said

[dire stratus]

same they just are not the same

[granite notch]

”AG Pitches would be considered good if cows ate it”

-Dunga

[dire stratus]

🗣️
real

[terse sky]

hot take: moutinho for portugal was a world class cm

[sour oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-vs-sweden-ronaldo-goal-vs-sweden-joao-moutinho-assist-to-ronaldo-ronaldo-zlatan-ibrahimovic-ronaldo-sweden-goal-gif-18262010

[feral smelt]

Not that of a hot take

He was always very underrated

[flat moth]

World class a strong word
But he was pretty underrated & good yeah

[past fern]

Don't forget to answer the daily question:
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[vestal ether]

im very excited for the WC draw tomorrow

always been a 4yr tradition

🔥

[vague hill]

depay

well actually he’s not even THAT bad but

[heavy fjord]

Shit i remember when i said "i saw that meme for 1st time" week ago

Now i see it everywhere

[karmic cairn]

Yo

[static flame]

😭 lmao forgot what I even sent

Holy 💀

[vague hill]

hello gang

[karmic cairn]

Unc Neymar scored hatty

[raw lark]

Why do you talk so much man

[vague hill]

I saw

hes been okay recently

but good enough for him cuz Santos is now safe from relegation for now

[static flame]

Nah word bro

[dire stratus]

i knew it

[inland plover]

because i like talking about football bro

[inland plover]

i dont really understand you all, you ask for a channel to have more serious, detailed discussions and then post stupid shit and memes, and clown on people for using the channel for its intended purpose

this is why we can't have nice things

[raw lark]

Bro

You’ll never see me talk about serious shit 😭

I’m the worst example you could’ve taken

[inland plover]

true true

[static flame]

[formal fiber]

Ac Milan got knocked out of Coppa Italia ro16 against Lazio

They've won this competition only 5 times, the last time they won it was back in 2003

[dire stratus]

i knew this would happen again today
we are just overloading the phlank like the midfeild doesnt exist
this explains the shaw yellow too

the whole season is gonna be like this for us if we dont get some good playmaker who can control the game without losing possion in the midfeild

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[flat moth]

Always felt like the Big 3 in Italy dont tale Coppa Italia seriously

Especially before the 2010’s

Milan especially seem like they dont care about it at all

[inland plover]

yeah Milan number of coppa italias shocked me

i was looking at this during the coppa games this week

and thought, wait why do we consider Milan the biggest for UCL?

when Juve has way more leagues and way more coppas

[feral smelt]

Most big clubs in any league don’t take the cup seriously

[formal fiber]

Its easier to win it for big teams so its still surprising that they have very less

[feral smelt]

Since most times those big clubs are already busy with league + europe

[formal fiber]

Copa del rey and fa cup are relatively harder for the top teams in their respective leagues

[formal fiber]

Ucl is the most prestigious trophy for European clubs which is why Milan is more globally acclaimed

[formal fiber]

They do take it seriously when they are heading to an otherwise trophyless season 😛

[inland plover]

does that mean Inter is the second biggest?

[flat moth]

Yeah very low

[flat moth]

Yeah

[flat moth]

Juve & Inter still are first & second

Milan seems hilarious

7th Spot for Coppa Italia titles
& only one in this century

[formal fiber]

There is a huge difference in 7 ucls to 2 than 3 to 2 lol

[flat moth]

Milan were the team for the millennials growing up in late 80’s, 90’s & 00’s

When I was just getting into football they were right next to Madrid in UCL legacy & reputation

[formal fiber]

Last decade was really shit for them, otherwise they would have still been up there

[flat moth]

They need a owner willing to spend like Berlusconi again

Berlusconi a controversial personality, but he did really contribute a lot to Milan’s success

[formal fiber]

Serie a can't compete with prem money anymore. Milan's American owners won't be leaving anytime soon either

[flat moth]

Well the prem issue is not going away, premier league has established itself as a very strong economic powerhouse.

Clubs need to just do smart business & management themselves

[inland plover]

true, crasy to think that right before Ancelotti won la décima, Milan had 2 UCL less than Real Madrid

[flat moth]

Yes till 1997, Milan were just 1 ucl behind as well

[inland plover]

they were really a menace back then

the first ever UCL final i remember is Milan v Liverpool

i think Pippo scored

3-3? not entirely sure

[flat moth]

They were as big of a European powerhouse as Madrid,
Then they fell off & Madrid had another golden era so gap became bigger

[flat moth]

Yes

[inland plover]

no wait

they played 2005 and 2007

thats nuts

kinda like madrid v atletico 2014 2016

I saw the second one

2007

[feral smelt]

Lisbon derby today

Big big match

[formal fiber]

What's ur prediction? Haven't been following either of the teams

[feral smelt]

Draw probably

I have no faith in mourinho

[flat moth]

Yeah the miracle of istanbul & revenge of Athens

[cyan egret]

Wouldn't have gone past semis if var was a thing

What a shame Liverpool robbed chelsea

[cold furnace]

1-1 draw, benfica is unbeaten and sporting have won their past 4 league games

Meaning porto will go 5 pts clear

[knotty solar]

Endrick is about to be moving like Prime R9 in Lyon.

[flat moth]

His skillset seems more similar to Adriano

Than R9

Long way to go either way

Needs to play regularly for now

[inland plover]

yeah, not playing at all doesnt give me much hopes

specially since Xabi has been chosing Gonsalo over him

and xabi rotates a LOT

hopefully he is wrong, and Endrick is ready for european top league football

[flat moth]

Madrid was the wrong move for him

Signed Mbappe the same summer he joined lol

[cyan egret]

And he has a reason for it tbf

[flat moth]

Was never gonna get proper gametime to develop

[inland plover]

yeah agree

[ripe ginkgo]

1-4 sporting

[past fern]

New Daily Question:

#daily-question message

[marble kelp]

Sporting is winning

[dire stratus]

is it done ?

[feral smelt]

https://youtube.com/shorts/qua781DN9kY?si=uzGoGgo3BF4kHWz0

Roberto carlos vs buffon

They don’t make players like this anymore

[hasty fog]

What time is the draw?

[terse rock]

in 30 minutes

[hasty fog]

Oh! I don’t go on my break for another hour ugh

[low rover]

😭

Psycho

[slim mural]

is this the new song

[raw lark]

Trump 😭

NAH

[granite notch]

Wdym?

He's the president of the country organizing the world cup (with mexico and canada)

[raw lark]

He’s the peace award winner

[granite notch]

Oh hell nah

He created this award and gave it to him

[chilly crown]

lol

[chilly crown]

Shit song

[low rover]

https://tenor.com/view/she-ra-psychic-read-mind-gif-9909907

[past fern]

it was obvious

[low rover]

Ik lmao

[quasi atlas]

He’s yapping about pele

[ionic sail]

Trump ruins everything he touches, as per usual

[hard dragon]

Oh

Why do They even exist

[past fern]

Don't forget to answer the daily question:

#daily-question message

[hard dragon]

Just follow the country you support not random group

[stiff narwhal]

https://vxtwitter.com/thatguysjokes/status/1997019490660585699?t=ppQ2YII3679vBm1w7ZNJ6w&s=19

T G J (@thatguysjokes)

South Africa and Mexico opening game of the World Cup

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Dec 5, 2025, 7:05 PM

South Africa scoring the opening goal with Peter Drury commentating 🔥

[hard dragon]

I hope italy will wins the playoff

Im praying

Wish I could skip these 3 month

Including my 4 week internship

[ripe ginkgo]

The opening game

https://tenor.com/view/tshabalala-south-africa-bafana-bafana-world-cup-2010-world-cup-gif-6489621144724110121

[hard dragon]

I can smell a german joke

For group J

[radiant aurora]

I don't get it

[hard dragon]

Wait nvm

[terse rock]

Pogba coming on

[hard dragon]

Group J
Is like yes in german or Norwegian

[dire stratus]

group c looks the hardest

[hard dragon]

Group B is so easy

If italy wins playoff A

[dire stratus]

switzerland toping it

[radiant aurora]

Aaaj?

Am I being dim here 😂

[dire stratus]

if italy go to a they have a good chance to top it

[hard dragon]

Say it in backwards 😭

[dire stratus]

JAAA

both argentina and portugal are in a quite easy group

group I also looks tough

senegal are solid

[hard dragon]

Thomas Müller fav group

[terse rock]

Munster goal

[tranquil abyss]

Group C...

[terse rock]

Haiti to top it

[hard dragon]

Worst group is H no?

[craggy pike]

Fortunately yes

[narrow stone]

What abt D?

[craggy pike]

We have easy group

[flat moth]

No its decent

D is worst for me personally

[craggy pike]

What if scotland beat morocco

[south harness]

Lovely group for the lads.

Take it.

[hard dragon]

What about F

If Poland wins?

[narrow stone]

No they won’t

[worn marsh]

Who's going to WC 26?

[narrow stone]

Me

[worn marsh]

You have tickets for Morocco?

Btw you're going to AFCON in Morocco?

Some games

[narrow stone]

Yes I’m going

[hard dragon]

If Poland wins
I see group F as worst group ever

[narrow stone]

Im going without tickets 😃

[worn marsh]

You got wich games ?

[narrow stone]

I’m going without tickets 😃😃

I have access 😂😔

[worn marsh]

Okay Gianni Infantino

[cyan egret]

Thoughts on E

[flat moth]

Germany vs Ecuador nice match

[cyan egret]

Ja, germany gotta win it if they want to have a good run

[dire stratus]

C or I is the toughest in terms of competition maybe

france vs norway 🔥

[feral smelt]

Group I is pretty hard

[dire stratus]

yea senegal are pretty solid too

[narrow stone]

Trust me ( i can do a videos)

[dire stratus]

wait who might be taking the last spot in group I ?

[narrow stone]

Iraq i guess

[worn marsh]

Iraq are good

Don't underestimate Iraq

[dire stratus]

or ?

[worn marsh]

France

[narrow stone]

Iraq/suriname/bolivia

[narrow stone]

I guess he’s talking about who gonna qualify from the international playoffs to this group

[worn marsh]

Oh

Yes Iraq then

[inland plover]

I read Spain group will face Argentina group in the next round

Argentina could potentially face Uruguay or Spain in round of 32

[inland plover]

its gonna be bolivia bro

[heavy fjord]

Why

[hard dragon]

Dangerous group

That what I mean

Netherlands Japan

Then maybe Poland

[charred wharf]

Not bad

[heavy fjord]

Group D 😴😴

[heavy fjord]

Group of dead

[heavy fjord]

Yeah dangerous

[charred wharf]

I think we'll win it

[heavy fjord]

Yeah same

[charred wharf]

Croatia are not as good as they were

Ghana are eh

Panama are a bunch of stepovers

[heavy fjord]

CAPE VERDE HAVE EASY GROUP

Cape Verde matches predictions:
Vs uruguay 0:0
Vs spain 0:3
Vs saudi 2:0
4 points
2nd place

🥳

[charred wharf]

I think the only game they might win is against saudi

[heavy fjord]

Curacao have easy games too

[charred wharf]

They're losing to Spain and probably to Uruguay too

[charred wharf]

No i think they'll get last

[heavy fjord]

Yeah but 3rd place still advance

[heavy fjord]

What

Bullshit

[charred wharf]

Ecuador and ivory coast arent easy

They should be beating curacao

[heavy fjord]

Ecuador draw
Germany lose
Cote divore win

[heavy fjord]

Imo they are

But i don't watch them

Australia paraguay USA is group of dead definietly

😭😭

[charred wharf]

Its actually hard to tell who will win it

For now id say the US should

[heavy fjord]

Imo

1. USA
2. Australia
3. Paraguay

Who is 4th team

[charred wharf]

And honestly looking at the playoff teams i think id back them to win the group no matter who wins that playoff bracket

The 4th team is either Slovakia kosovo turkey or romania

[heavy fjord]

Poor

Only turkey is serious team

Lol

[frail kindle]

Of course of courseeee Argentina gets the easiest group

[charred wharf]

They're not the only team with an easy group

So does switzerland

[tranquil abyss]

Gotta at least get 3rd

Win against Haiti and draw against Morocco

[potent sparrow]

Brazil?

Or who

[tranquil abyss]

Scotland

[chilly crown]

Belgium

will be first in their group

[static flame]

Scotland is not drawing against a healthy , inform Morocco

[gritty agate]

Trump is really fucking pissing me off even more

I swear if he's in gonna be in the MLS Cup trophy ceremony I'm gonna lose it

[silver abyss]

they are probably drawing saudi at best

ok. my prediction for germay is to beat curacao by a single Woltemade goal in 90th minute, lose to ecuador on a last minute caicedo goal, and draw ivory coast in a back and forth 2-2 game, and end up as one of the best 3rd place teams with 4 points (as ecuador will lose to ivory coast, and curacao loses each game, so its ivory coast 7, ecuador 6, germany 4, curacao 0)

[vapid gale]

Whatever happened to Kobbie Mainoo? Was it all hype

[blissful fulcrum]

mainoo is talented, a good footballer

the man utd system just doesnt fit him well

he needs to go somewhere else to develop

[radiant aurora]

Mostly overhyped, but also doesn't fit in to the way Amorim plays at all. Nowhere near disciplined enough or good enough off the ball for a 6, not good enough going forward to be a 10

[terse sky]

what are all those xabi sacking rumos going atound

[cyan egret]

Nothing like that is gonna happen

[shrewd fractal]

civil war fc is just in shambles

[subtle galleon]

not fit for amorim’s system

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[low rover]

Nah the scheduling in football is actually fucking brutal lol

So Africans are expected to leave mid season head into the afcon wrap that up come back and finish up the season then go back and play the World Cup?

Holy shit lol

[feral smelt]

It is but when you paid thousands a week it’s a small price to pay

[low rover]

That’s true but going through 2 international tournaments within like half a year gotta be really stressful considering it’s a big deal for a lot of countries to perform well or even win them

I remember a time where you had 2 years or at least a year in between

Plus failures of the season to add on to that

[feral smelt]

Blame fifa and us really

They only care about money and it’s us, the viewers, that consume it thus making them money

That’s the sad truth.

[low rover]

Yea it’s not just a fifa problem though sports in general is becoming a playground for the rich

The nba have so many exploitive tactics it’s ridiculous lol

I also cant keep up with the amount of games teams have to play

[leaden crypt]

Mhhhh

[pure steppe]

I understand this argument
But, I think the whole problem is; yes they getting paid a lot but, the human body can't just go on like this yk
All the wealth in the world can't keep you from overloading/killing your body; 3 games a week surely has some effects on players whether physcially or mentally

[feral smelt]

I said it in my second message

We consume football to an extent that allows fifa to do this

[pure steppe]

Sadly yes

[heavy fjord]

SKK

@raw lark

Sk is back

[pure steppe]

whats good man

[terse sky]

should i be concerned

[turbid patrol]

man if italy don't qualify from both playoff and group i will throw a fit

[heavy fjord]

I thought you won't come back bro

How bad that i can't check it

Btw #off-topic

[pure steppe]

loll

[feral smelt]

I will puke

[quaint junco]

no

[karmic cairn]

https://x.com/rory_talks_ball/status/1997001907588718879?s=46

Rory Talks Football (@Rory_Talks_Ball)

I would like to wholeheartedly apologise to UEFA and Giorgio Marchetti for ever criticising the Champions League draw

X · Dec 5, 2025, 5:55 PM

[formal fiber]

I used to hate on ucl draw for their 15 mins of bs and random talks in middle

This fifa draw was worse

[cyan egret]

I will still criticize that shit

Did you see frankfurt draws

They gave frankfurt the worst one in ucl

[dark badger]

What were they even doing

Pogba has more sprinting montage than when they were drawing

[past fern]

Eternal Derby today 🔥

[tall laurel]

🔥

[past fern]

New Daily Question:

#daily-question message

[flat moth]

https://x.com/fifacom/status/1997244876929581223?s=46

FIFA (@FIFAcom)

The FIFA World Cup 2026 match schedule will be revealed today! 🙌

The full reveal of match venues and kick-off times will take place in a live global broadcast at 12:00 EST from Washington DC.

X · Dec 6, 2025, 10:01 AM

[formal fiber]

Will they drag this broadcast too?

[karmic cairn]

Great another yap session

From the bald pig and others

[flat moth]

No need to watch it ibr

This will just be the schedule

[karmic cairn]

Ye ^

[dire stratus]

i heard rumours about broadcaste being free

[raw lark]

Yeah that Chelsea record is going to stay

[main basin]

🤣

[dire stratus]

what record ?

[raw lark]

The 15 goals conceded one

[flat moth]

Saliba & Gabriel actually very very important & valuable

Saw a few people say it was largely arteta’s structural set up which was the reason for the good defence

[dire stratus]

in how many games
idk about the record

[flat moth]

But Gabriel & Saliba’s value equally important

[raw lark]

In a prem season

[raw lark]

We all remember why they bottled in 22/23

[dire stratus]

they know it so they brought in more defenders this szn
their depth is very good
thats why they are still able to survive with saliba, gabriel and mosquera injured too

[flat moth]

Saliba injury yeah(tho I think city overtake them regardless)

City after February were on a crazy momentum

Think even with saliba they lose at Etihad back then

[dire stratus]

oh
damn im surprised thats even a record 😭

[flat moth]

Yeah good depth of course

[raw lark]

I think City would’ve destroyed them yes but they wouldn’t loose points against like West Ham or Southampton

[dire stratus]

arsenal have good midfeild depth too

[flat moth]

But still not so crazy to carry them when both are out like today

[flat moth]

Yeah that Southampton collapse doesn’t happen with Saliba

[dire stratus]

yea true but still managable

[flat moth]

Yes

[raw lark]

Ts destroyed them man 😭

[flat moth]

Collapsed their whole momentum

[dire stratus]

but anyways the arsenal cycle continues

[flat moth]

At a time City were incredibly hot

[raw lark]

Their faces at the end of the game at the time we ALL knew City would’ve defeated destroy them to

[flat moth]

They still win the league imo despite the loss today

[raw lark]

1-0

Bournemouth

[flat moth]

Chelsea & City are very bad defensively

[raw lark]

Semeneyo

[flat moth]

Tears

[dire stratus]

they will go down before the end of the year

[dire stratus]

idk if they are able to get back up then yea

[raw lark]

Chelsea fans will loose all their confidence at the end of the month

Oh

Looks offside

[flat moth]

They are still first

[dire stratus]

city has been struggling since last szn due to the absence of rodri's role

[flat moth]

Wdym back up😭

[dire stratus]

i meant back in form

[flat moth]

Yeah they will be totally fine with saliba & gabriel both starting

[dire stratus]

when are they possibly returning ?

[flat moth]

City & Chelsea’s defence isnt solid enough rn

[flat moth]

Saliba can be any day now
Gabriel at the end of this month or at the start of 2026

[dire stratus]

damn ok
mosquera out till mid of jan it seems

[distant parcel]

why's ferran starting 💔

[devout spear]

Do they got better options

[bitter crypt]

Ooh thanks

I hate this role

But I know I have done bad things

[hasty fog]

Rough day today

[fickle grove]

I think he's Ligue 1 McDonald's

[tranquil abyss]

Kick off times for our games are shite

2am for the game against Haiti, then 11pm for the Morocco and Brazil games

[dusty totem]

I Am Ligue 1 McDonald's.

[fickle grove]

Aura.

[crude plover]

Our last 6 games have been Sunderland away, Spurs (derby for us), Bayern, Chelsea away, Brentford, Villa away. Would be hard for any team to take maximum points from this, much less while all our CBs have been getting injured one by one every week

[dusty totem]

I agree.

[fickle grove]

Have respect for Ligue 1 McDonald's.

[crude plover]

Somehow had to visit all but one of the "big" away grounds, OT, Anfield, the bridge, SJP, Villa park and we come out of top of the league I think it's alright to expect us not have run away with it already

[dire stratus]

fair
those where not easy fixtures

[dire stratus]

predict ur winner this time around

[jolly flame]

Antony really scored for betis only for them to be losing six minutes later

[lost dawn]

Goat vs goat

[jolly flame]

3-1 now 😭

[dusty totem]

RC Lens's gonna win.

They won't fail twice.

[dire stratus]

4-1

[dire stratus]

marseille ?

[dusty totem]

Marseille sucks.

[dire stratus]

they are doing good aswell

29 points rn

but yea lens have been better ig

[jolly flame]

Hattrick for torres

4-1

[dusty totem]

2 winless matches in a row when they can easily beat their opposite teams and doubling PSG to atleast get a 2nd place.

I can't count on them anymore, it's always like this.

[lost dawn]

4-1 now

Shark hatty

[dire stratus]

another mbappe gave them nightmares 😭

[dusty totem]

Real.

Ethan Mbappe.

[dire stratus]

yea lol

[jolly flame]

*** England's fixtures in Group L of the World Cup ***

Match 1: England v Croatia - Kickoff on ** <t:1781726400:F> ** in **Dallas, Texas **

Match 2: England v Ghana - Kickoff on ** <t:1782244800:F>** in ** Boston, Massachusetts **

Match 3: ** England v Panama ** - Kickoff on ** <t:1782594000:F> ** in ** New York, USA **

[tranquil abyss]

Warra goal from Sutton Utd

[lost dawn]

Going to love the traffic from this World Cup

Ffs

[tranquil abyss]

Idk if I'll even go

Flight prices are gonna be phenomenal

But sitting in a pub at 2am to watch the Scotland-Haiti game is gonna be weird

[lost dawn]

Ticket prices as well

It’s alr egregious

[tranquil abyss]

It's bollocks

Trust FIFA to cater more to the grifters and sponsors and price freeze the actual fans

If the Haitians aren't gonna be allowed into the US, just give us the full stadium

[lost dawn]

I can alr tell something is going to happen this WC

To ruin our reputation even more

On the global stage

[tranquil abyss]

65,000 Scots, loudest rendition of Flower of Scotland you'll hear

Shrewsbury down to 10

Shrewsbury goal

[rough igloo]

yo

[worn marsh]

England 2-2 or 2-3 Croatia
England 3-0 Ghana
England 5-1 Panama

[steady marlin]

we are winning against croatia or drawing

we aren’t losing

[tulip linden]

Im the Nr.2 Stach glazer

[steady marlin]

why can’t one be on the 25th 💔

[edgy magnet]

Ayo am i the only one in here who is really early planning on how to watch the world cup matches in 2026 due to late times because i am in Asia?

[indigo knoll]

As of now, yeah.

[rough igloo]

yes

[rough igloo]

its gonna be late for many places itw

[edgy magnet]

Yeah i better prepare my sleeping schedule for the late night football matches but man i am hyped up for the world cup i just want it to come quick

[vapid gale]

Liverpool probably needs to sack Slot if they want to succeed again.

[vapid gale]

https://youtu.be/ts-TtWkE3V8?si=tz9Uj5uxNliwg39-

[flat moth]

No need to do so soon yet frankly

I am from Asia as well & watched Brazil 2014 games live which had similar timings

Start to alter your sleep schedule at the start of june
& very very importantly clear up your schedule & work for most of June & July early itself

Ideally by Late May/Early June so that the odd sleeping hours do the hamper your work much

If you work a 9 to 5 can be tricky though

[tame jolt]

They defo won't atleast this season

[edgy magnet]

Nah at that time i will have holiday since i am still school but yeah will do as you said in the beginning of June

[dire stratus]

i just realized how tough of a path portugal could have in the wc

[granite notch]

Messi won the Mls Cup

[dire stratus]

yes that iwn goal was diabolical

[granite notch]

Yeah

[tranquil abyss]

These kick off times are diabolical

[dire stratus]

its at 2 am for me 💀

the timingd are very diverse tho

there are matches early in the morning all the way to late at night

[devout spear]

No shit sherlock, earth is not flat

[heavy fjord]

What time is it in Poland

[dire stratus]

u did not get what i mean

ofc ik that

[inland plover]

lol sure bro

[tranquil abyss]

3am and 12am

[edgy magnet]

Yeah the times for the fifa world cup can be from 8:00 pm to 10 PM to 4:00 AM to even 7:00 AM

Thank goodness the world cup 2026 will be played in the summer

[tranquil abyss]

Luckily the Haiti and Morocco games are weekend games, but I'll probably take the 25th off.

[heavy fjord]

Perfect

Like 3am no

But 12am

Good

Wait

Actually i'm sleeping at 12am

So

[tranquil abyss]

I'd honestly rather watch the game in America

[quick canyon]

What are these kickoffs bro

1am 4am 7am for me

😭

[heavy fjord]

Lmaooo

[sharp cradle]

england lowkey got blessed with our times

two 9PMS and a 10PM

[sick wadi]

hiya

[past fern]

New Daily Question:

#daily-question message

[dusty totem]

OGC Shit fans whistle OGC Shit players in an empty Allianz Riviera.

[hexed python]

bro bringing the ligue 1 to us

[cyan bay]

No its not yato

[flat moth]

Do you watch all the games live as well

Or just keep up with the scores

[neon forum]

bro hes called ligue 1 McDonalds

ofc he does

[flat moth]

Maybe for a few of them he is busy & needs to use notifications instead

[granite notch]

I'd be heavily dissapointed

ligue 1 Mcdonalds needs to watch all of ligue 1

[flat moth]

You should rebrand yourself to Süper Lig as well

[granite notch]

I dont watch all of süper lig though

mostly only fener with some exceptions

[flat moth]

Then get to it 🔥

[granite notch]

nah Im gonna start watching other branches of fener instead 🔥

just went to the womens derby today

gonna start watching basketball too

[flat moth]

Fener ultra

[granite notch]

technically am one, however I dont like the label much lol

cause you know ultras are known to be violent

and Im not like that Im chill

[flat moth]

Are womens game attendances in Turkey good

[flat moth]

Yeah

[neon forum]

he only watches fenerbache

he aint even a football fan hes a fener fan

[granite notch]

only 2 sections of the stadium were open to sale in the derby for some reason, both didnt sell out but were nearly packed

and the atmosphere was still really good

and we won 1-0 🔥

[granite notch]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-not-ridiculous-thats-not-ridiculous-to-say-that-thats-not-ridiculous-meme-gif-11489839477285394127

[neon forum]

up the fener

or whatever

[granite notch]

I would quit football if fener ceased to exist

[granite notch]

haydi fener

or en büyük fener

[neon forum]

haydi fener

[flat moth]

How big are ladies football stadium in Turkey

[granite notch]

the fenerbahçe galatasaray womens game was played in the mens main stadium

idk about other matches this was my first womens game I attended

[flat moth]

Oh okay

How much do the tickets cost

[granite notch]

cost 2 euros

[flat moth]

Fair enough
2 euros for a derby

Did you create an intense atmosphere like the mens derby

[granite notch]

oh yeah our section was insane as usual

[flat moth]

Class

[granite notch]

next step, mens and womens basketball 🔥

and then mens and womens voleyball 🔥🔥🔥

[flat moth]

How many sports does fener operate in

[granite notch]

basically all of them lol

I know for a fact that we operate both men and womens teams on the main 3 sports (football, basketball, voleyball) idk other than that but I think we operate individual sports aswell as handball too @flat moth

[flat moth]

Oh okay

Let me google

[granite notch]

nvm we dont got a handball team

I remember seeing a section of handball on our website but I am mistaken I guess

[flat moth]

Damn even google doesn’t have exact number

[dusty totem]

No.

I'm too boring fr.

[flat moth]

Just says numerous sports

[flat moth]

How many then

Around 4-5 of the 9 every matchday?

[dusty totem]

Probably.

[granite notch]

Im gonna attend atleast one match on every sports branch if its possible

[flat moth]

Fair enough, do you follow any other leagues besides Ligue 1

[cyan egret]

Nationalist final boss

[flat moth]

Damn thats dedication

Proppa Fan

[dusty totem]

There's a matchday where I watch everything.

[granite notch]

my fenerbahçe fan friend who goes to every single game of men and womens football, basketball and voleyball inspired me

[cyan egret]

I deserve better

[karmic cairn]

Nope 🙂‍↔️

You knew what you were signing up for

[dusty totem]

No you don't.

[cyan egret]

Shit valid

Gotta ready myself for Barcelone game

[flat moth]

How old is he

[dusty totem]

The Premier league and LaLiga.

[karmic cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/dwayne-johnson-bring-it-on-the-rock-wrestler-wwe-gif-12641706942799840259

[cyan egret]

Fix your second division refs first

[dusty totem]

I have no VAR.

This gonna be really hard.

[granite notch]

18

[flat moth]

Nice,
Which is your favourite Ligue 1 season ever that you got to witness?

[flat moth]

How much time does it cost him

Does he live near the stadiums

[dusty totem]

Every time Nice wasn't here.

[flat moth]

Commute + attending all must be a lot of time

[cyan egret]

Ligue 1 best season was 20/21

In recent years

[dusty totem]

Facts.

LOSC prime ☠️

[cyan egret]

Lille is the only club there i actually like at some point

But i dislike McDonald's league

[dusty totem]

Why ?

[granite notch]

a lot, his schedule is full on the week lol

[granite notch]

nope

[cyan egret]

Because Marseille.

[flat moth]

Proper hater🥵

[flat moth]

It must affect his study/work life quite a bit then

[cyan egret]

Nice

[granite notch]

he invited me to attend more matches other than football saying "you must support fener in every branch"

[granite notch]

hes in prep so his shit is quite easy rn

[cyan egret]

Ye what about it

[granite notch]

I dont think he'll be able to keep it up once real uni starts for him

[cyan egret]

Self reacting is my trademark shit, off topic tho

[flat moth]

Yeah will be difficult

[marble kelp]

I plan to go the WC

[flat moth]

@dusty totem were you happy when PSG won treble

[flat moth]

Nice, Enjoy

[cyan egret]

To watch germany? W

[dusty totem]

Yes.

[neon forum]

are u rich

[dusty totem]

I was very happy.

[marble kelp]

middle class

[marble kelp]

yeah potentially

since they’re playing in my city

[cyan egret]

Nice

[neon forum]

arent the tickets like 1K

[granite notch]

I feel like he'll keep it up still though ngl, he lives and breathes fener

[flat moth]

Thats nice,
Which team do you feel can eventually win a Europa League for france

[marble kelp]

Like 400-2k+

[flat moth]

PSG & Marseille only European french winners & both won UCL

[neon forum]

damn thats expensive

[flat moth]

France still yet to have a Europa winner

[cyan egret]

I need to follow Bundesliga 2 and 3.liga more

[dusty totem]

Not OGC Shit for sure.

[neon forum]

did chelsea rlly disappoint u

taht much

[flat moth]

😂😂😂
Bro doesn’t miss a chance to hate on them

[dusty totem]

But I feel that Lyon is more likely to win.

[flat moth]

Fair enough

[granite notch]

is eintracht frankfurt muli sport or only football

[dusty totem]

What comes after 35 ?

OGC SHIT !

[cyan egret]

Multi

[flat moth]

[dusty totem]

They managed to do worse than the previous season !

[marble kelp]

😭

[dusty totem]

Even their fans hate this stupid club.

[granite notch]

nice

[cyan egret]

I love eintracht frankfurt

[flat moth]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-doakes-meme-doakes-suspicious-gif-9489819575784481578

[neon forum]

huey porto gimmick

[strange prairie]

Frankfurt tends to be a diva

[cyan egret]

Word

I just wanna enjoy good football atp rather than Toppmöller back 3

Where the defenders can't even be in the right position

[flat moth]

❌

[neon forum]

wot

[cyan egret]

He's saying that it wasn't a gimmick

[neon forum]

think it was

[cyan egret]

Was it tho

[flat moth]

3 year old “gimmick” will always be near impossible to believe

[dire stratus]

there are other things here that i dont think are acc gimmicks

[granite notch]

how long has he kept this up for

at some point we gotta lean in towards believing in it

he convinced me

[subtle rock]

hey guys

[granite notch]

hello serv

[flat moth]

What did he even say to ya for you to be convinced

[narrow stone]

Hello chat

[flat moth]

Good Day

[granite notch]

I interviewed him about frankfurt on dms for like 2-3 hours

[narrow stone]

How are u mates

[subtle rock]

table after matchweeks in 2015/16

[subtle rock]

hey scourge

[flat moth]

Hey

[flat moth]

Do you believe

[narrow stone]

Leicester 😔

[flat moth]

Like about his fandom or club’s history

[subtle rock]

we can do a leicester?

no

[granite notch]

everything

[flat moth]

Yeah

[granite notch]

it wasnt just an interview tbf it was a general conversation

but he seemed convincing

[flat moth]

Your underlyings look a bit weak

[subtle rock]

we finished 6th last season we arent anything like leicester

who finished 15th i believe

[neon forum]

so u think he supports porto

[flat moth]

You are overperforming heavily rn

[subtle rock]

https://x.com/xGPhilosophy/status/1997314020273947000?s=20 you say that but

The xG Philosophy (@xGPhilosophy)

Arsenal’s first xG loss since the first game of the season against Man Utd.

X · Dec 6, 2025, 2:35 PM

we created over 5xg in our last two games vs brighton and arsenal

[flat moth]

Not yesterday
But overall

Arsenal win was a good display

[subtle rock]

its true in the previous games we were relying more on moments

[flat moth]

Yeah past few games feel better
But the start of the season was pretty bleak

[subtle rock]

but those moments have allowed us to create better xg chances

[neon forum]

like goat cash goal against us

[flat moth]

16th on xG table

But it has got better past few games yeah

[granite notch]

matty "goat" cash

[flat moth]

Like arsenal & Brighton you said

[subtle rock]

https://youtu.be/rjB9Qb-Hp_w?si=WnBhqAIacgbuKgIi

this is a good video explaining whats happened regarding xg

[flat moth]

Only he knows

[neon forum]

yt tacticos

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-stare-disappointed-gif-13848065843414333862

[subtle rock]

we have been gradually peforming better

[flat moth]

Yes

[subtle rock]

crazy that we created double the xg vs arsenal

than vs wolves

[flat moth]

Yh😂

[granite notch]

@subtle rock man I cant wait for this match

[neon forum]

that gap between h and 😂 is making me uncomfortable

[subtle rock]

should be a good one

[neon forum]

u getting cooked ibr

[flat moth]

He is german so he mist know history already

[granite notch]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[flat moth]

Fandom I ain’t believeing

❌

[subtle rock]

we can always lose away from home imo

gotta be on it

[neon forum]

eineshi fraudwatch

[neon forum]

100%

[granite notch]

I'll see you at january

[neon forum]

5-0 Darren Watkins hatrick

ok bye imma study

[granite notch]

duran is suspended which sucks but we can still win

[subtle rock]

we have been really good since march

last season we won 12 of our last 15 matches in all comps

and it has continued into this season

[cyan egret]

Boring 0-0

[cyan egret]

Source

[subtle rock]

twtd

[hoary wren]

Atletico MG leading vs Vasco keeps them safe for now

[flat moth]

https://theanalyst.com/articles/world-cup-2026-draw-easiest-toughest-groups

According to Opta J is the strongest group

Most people dont seem to name it

Might be because Argentina are still clearly the best team of those 4

Headlined by reigning champions Argentina, the four teams drawn into Group J have an average Opta Power Rating of 77.1. Lionel Scaloni’s side obviously contribute heavily to that, with their rating of 97.8 putting them second in the Opta Power Rankings, though there are two other sides ranked 31st or higher as well. Austria’s Opta Power Rating is 75.3, making them statistically the second-strongest side in the group, followed by Algeria (72.2). The lowest-ranked side in the group are Jordan (ranking: 58, rating: 63.1). The average ranking of the teams in Group J is 29.3, though Argentina will surely still fancy their chances of progressing unscathed.

[tall gulch]

Could be changed if Iraq qualifies then Group I might be strongest

Netherlands Japan group is actually interesting

[flat moth]

They seem to rate Iraq pretty low as well

The reason why Group I comes in below Group J with respect to average team rating is the fact the fourth team in the pool will be the winner of the second intercontinental play-off. That team will either be Iraq (rating: 63.2), Bolivia (63.0) or Suriname (42.3) – none of them will be expected to do much of note, hence they bring the group’s average down slightly.

Only a .2 higher rating than Bolivia oddly enough☠️

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What about Senegal and Norway

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We all know Bolivia why....

[flat moth]

That one is ranked third yeah

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Then England Croatia

[flat moth]

Thats fifth

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Then Belgium Egypt Iran

[tall gulch]

Oh

Is 4th Spain group

[flat moth]

Yeah

4th is spain Uruguay saudi

[tall gulch]

6th is Belgium

7th is either Portugal or Brazil

[flat moth]

While the Opta Power Rankings may not agree, many fans will likely pinpoint Group I as the closest to a so-called ‘group of death’. France, runners-up at Qatar 2022, will be fancied to win the group and ultimately do well thereafter, but Les Bleus – who have an Opta Power Rating of 96.8 – could find resistance. Norway (rating: 77.6) and Senegal (rating 76.1) have the talent to trouble any team on their day and will each think they have what it takes to reach the knockout stages.

[tall gulch]

Senegal and Norway have better ratings than Austria and Algeria hmm

Iraq>Jordan

France by 1 point losses

[flat moth]

Their model seems to rate jordan slightly higher

Haiti Curacao qualifying really a shocker

CONCACAF got a bit too many slots due to the 3 host nations qualifying directly

[near plaza]

What are the x and y axis?

Love me some data analysis