football-lounge

[heavy fjord]

He deserved more game time

[flat moth]

Regardless I just dont see Van De Ven to Madrid happening at all unless all of their cb’s just flop

[formal fiber]

Hope so

[cold furnace]

Ah cool cool so a longevity merchant got it

[cold furnace]

Not wif bloody gatti bro 💀

[flat moth]

Backup player

Who stays at the club for years

[cold furnace]

Ye basically a longevity merchant

[flat moth]

He isn’t better than huijsen & militao

& neither than upa/guehi/konate

[cold furnace]

Huijsen hasnt been that gud this season as well imo

[formal fiber]

The other side have Mari 💀

[flat moth]

Do you people expect every player to instantly be a hit

Adaptation phases exist

Especially for a young lad

[cold furnace]

true

[cold furnace]

Is rugani injured?

[formal fiber]

Yeah

[cold furnace]

Tbf yall hv that cabal guy...start him at lcb, kelly cb, kalulu rcb

And that defence will at least get thru fiorentina

[hard dragon]

Didn't know a lot of mods love talking here

[formal fiber]

He got back to back injuries

His career is as good as over

[formal fiber]

Ppl don't like stupidity

[feral smelt]

They are already getting Konate for free

So they can buy 1 more CB np

VDV is better then guehi and upa

[flat moth]

vdv better than upa?

what

he is a better ball carrier & faster thats about it

[feral smelt]

He is
His ceiling is also much higher

[flat moth]

Very heavy disagree
He isn’t better at anything bar carrying & pace

[static flame]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-dog-staring-at-sun-cute-dog-dog-closed-eyes-dog-staring-at-sunset-gif-10310895250239531072

[flat moth]

Upa is a better defender & on the ball as well

Only advantage is that he is 3 years younger

[feral smelt]

Vdv is 3 years younger
Also much easier to buy

[flat moth]

Upa’s contract expires in summer

He is a soon to be free agent

There is simply no way vdv fits at Madrid long term
They will have 5 quality enough cb’s next season
Even after rudiger falls off & leaves he wont have too much of a nailed spot in that team

They aren’t looking at the guy either way
No idea where this notion even began

He isn’t a Madrid target

[feral smelt]

VDV would he a starter when he goes there eventually

VDV continues like this he will be too good for spurs
He will eventually move to someone bigger

[feral smelt]

Because madrid were looning for cbs
And there is a notion that vdv is a star in the spurs team
Too big of a star to stay

Kinda like how Bale was

[mystic karma]

I think their top priority is konate

[flat moth]

Sure but Madrid don’t make sense when they are about to have 3 quality enough cb’s

Bale moving to Madrid doesnt mean every spurs star will move there

[feral smelt]

Who are the 3 cbs ?

[flat moth]

Upamecano Guehi & Konate are all on their shortlist

Konate is getting the most attention as he himself is most interested in going there

Other 2 haven’t

[feral smelt]

Also i am not saying he is moving now lol

[flat moth]

Huijsen
Militao
Guehi/Upamecano/Konate

[feral smelt]

Konate is pretty much done deal

He has refused all new contracts with liverpool

[flat moth]

If upamecano says yes they can drop konate

Unless they plan to hoard 4 high quality cb’s & sell rudiger

[feral smelt]

Why would they drop konate

Konate has been their main target for a year

He is also younger then upa

Guehi is the only one that no way is going to Real Madrid.

Liverpool will do everything to get him

[spiral oak]

Huijsen Militao Asencio Rudiger

Alaba's probably gonna get trashed

does madrid really need one more cb

I'd honestly say they're better off going for fullback choices

[mystic karma]

Konate is legit one of the worst pl defenders this season hows him madrid top priority

[spiral oak]

with fran garcia and carvajal and mendy about to get trashed

[spiral oak]

he'll do fine with trent

the whole liverpool team's shit so

it's unfair

[mystic karma]

Szobo aint shit

Ekitike too

[spiral oak]

him and gravenberch are the only two ones with brains

szobo and gravenberch

[mystic karma]

Listen bro about wirtz ppl watch football in footmob and so others football apps if they see wirtz play hes really star boy just unlucky with his end production but next season for sure he will shine

[spiral oak]

no he's just ass

he's always decent when he's playing against non prem teams

wirtz is just hot ass in the prem

[static flame]

Pretty sure there top rn is nico

And their keeping tabs on upa

[flat moth]

Because Upamecano is a superior player & they are interested in him as well

Konate just gets mentioned more & is more likely than him because he doesn’t want to renew with Liverpool & wants to go to Madrid only

On the other hand upa is down to stay in Bayern as long as they can agree on a fair enough contract

[mystic karma]

Nico who

[safe violet]

konate aint leaving man

[flat moth]

Nico who

[static flame]

https://tenor.com/view/iifeofdaparty-nico-paz-como-gif-16831657661815852118

[spiral oak]

he's so overglazed

[safe violet]

hes gonna accept a contract offer

[mystic karma]

Bro hes for sure there

[flat moth]

He is a 10

Not a cb

[feral smelt]

I rate upa higher then konate too ?

[static flame]

Yes but still is a transfer target

[mystic karma]

I almost got hart attack thought he was talking about the mighty nico gonzales

[flat moth]

Wont affect a CB signing

[static flame]

Ofc not but u said top priority

[flat moth]

Nico has a buy back clause from Madrid

They dont need to negotiate for him

[mystic karma]

I mean hes madrid player

[static flame]

Anyways Pefer Madrid to go for a solid defender doesn’t have to be flashy

[flat moth]

They just need to inform como they are activating his clause & it will be done

[static flame]

Spurs offered 70 mil for him

[flat moth]

Madrid hold first priority & right to refusal mate

[static flame]

Oh well

[flat moth]

That was a part of the deal to sell him to Como

[mystic karma]

Hujisen needs to go he aint still ready

[flat moth]

They will simply activate their buy back if they want him

Wont need extended negotiations or work

[mystic karma]

I would go for nico schlotterback but barca after him

So idk

[static flame]

His nice , just isn’t good in Ariel battles

Still has room to develop

[mystic karma]

He aint made for huge games

Cant take the pressure

[static flame]

In a bidding war I’m sure rma would win

[safe violet]

hujisen is so buns its acc crazy

[spiral oak]

bro's like 2 meters tall

how is he bad at aerial duels

[static flame]

Well that’s why Eder has been there

[static flame]

One of the reason Liverpool and aleti were giving Madrid a hard time/ belt cause of that and set pieces

[spiral oak]

I kept saying huijsen's overglazed ever since he went to madrid

he was never quality

he's got some good ball playing ability

but if you actually watched him at bournemouth he was just ahh

[static flame]

Carres was a nice signing tho

[mystic karma]

He has massive potential bro what are u talking about just cant take the pressure hes young still otherwise hes super

[static flame]

Madrid need a cb, creative midfielder, rw

[mystic karma]

Creative midfielder?

[static flame]

Even tho they could try options they alr got

[static flame]

A kroos type of players not to same level but somone who can control midfield

[mystic karma]

I mean they already have two players who connect the defence with attack

Jude n arda

[spiral oak]

nah it's a hard physical limit

[static flame]

Been saying stiller would be nice

[spiral oak]

him at bournemouth he was so slow

no quick change of direction

eventually he just pulled on shirts and gave away fouls

huijsen was never that good

no intelligence

[static flame]

Arda hasn’t been performing the best against bigger teams

[spiral oak]

overglazed because of this ball playing CB nonsense in modern football

[mystic karma]

Even kroos suggested this one

[static flame]

Exactly

[mystic karma]

And if they get paz next summer rorygo or vini one of them definitely is going

Cus i dont see how it will work otherwise

[static flame]

Wasn’t Ceballos leaving next summer

[spiral oak]

ceballos is class on his day

[mystic karma]

U think nico paz will come just to be benched again?

Nah hes comming to start in the first eleven bro

[spiral oak]

😭

nico paz starting in madrid's midfield is wild

[mystic karma]

This is why i say idk how this will work

[spiral oak]

valverde bellingham tchouameni guler

camavinga sometimes too

good luck with that

[mystic karma]

U can move gulet in wing even that hes not made for it

Guler*

and play nico in ardas postion

[dire stratus]

Hi

[ripe ginkgo]

easily lol

[spiral oak]

over who

[ripe ginkgo]

Its jude tchoua paz

Guler on the wing

[mystic karma]

And what to do with rodrygo and mastuantano

[spiral oak]

guler on the wing are we serious

and where's valverde

[ripe ginkgo]

Sell both

[dire stratus]

madrid will have a lot of depth in the midfeild when paz arrives

[ripe ginkgo]

holding bench

[dire stratus]

sell rodrygo

[spiral oak]

yall can't be real

[static flame]

I haven’t watched nico play so I wouldn’t know his style of play

[spiral oak]

paz is a fraud

[mystic karma]

How did u get even in this chat section

Ur a troll

[dire stratus]

they wont sell mastantuono

[ripe ginkgo]

Kimmich is the worst midfielder ever because he can’t defend

Apparently

[mystic karma]

Never said that thi

[dire stratus]

hes not

[mystic karma]

O

I said he cant defend

Just like that

And its true

[static flame]

Guler is not a winger

[dire stratus]

he is a wanna be lahm. but he is very good

[mystic karma]

Bros legit cant defend he just plays for the badge and gives his 100% runs alot so i respect him for that but unfortunately he cant defend

He can pass shoot all

But defend

[dire stratus]

not the best at defence i agree

better than trent ?

[ripe ginkgo]

defending not his mmain job

[dire stratus]

idtso

[mystic karma]

Kinda yes but yeah trent he cant defend either

[ripe ginkgo]

trent makes up for it though

so does kimmich

[dire stratus]

yea lol he shoukdnt have to defend as much as trent

[mystic karma]

Ur forgetting that hes main postion was RB and i will ask you why he doesnt play rb anymore?

He cant defend

Just like that

[dire stratus]

he has transitioned well and becme a holding midfeilder

[ripe ginkgo]

because hes not a rb?

[flat moth]

Kimmich was always a midfielder
He was just played as a rb due to his on ball quality for the role

[mystic karma]

No?

[dire stratus]

but he does go on the wing

[flat moth]

You didn’t see him in his youth days then
He was a midfielder
He became a rb around the late 2010’s only mate

Then again shifted to midfield

[mystic karma]

Yeah idk about his youth days

[flat moth]

Germany still use him there I think

[tropic flint]

Welcome @vague marsh. Please [read this](#football-lounge message) @sudden ledge

[mystic karma]

Van dijk in youths days played striker

So hes striker now

[flat moth]

Mate Kimmich was playing as a midfielder till his early 20’s

When pep was at bayern

[ripe ginkgo]

no televance and youre missing the point

fairs

[dire stratus]

sometimes yea

[flat moth]

People think rb is his natural position because he played rb when bayern won the treble

[dire stratus]

he does drift to the middle a lot

[flat moth]

Because that’s his natural position

[dire stratus]

fair

[south helm]

He's not a Rb

[flat moth]

People just have this notion he is a rb naturally because bayern won the treble while he was playing there

[flat moth]

Yeah

[spiral oak]

bayern had the best fullbacks itw at one point

[dire stratus]

but even now as a proper midfeilder he drifts to the wing overlaping the rb for crosses

[spiral oak]

and none of them wanted to play as a fullback

😂

[flat moth]

Yh lahm & alaba both preferred midfield

[south helm]

More like defensive midfilder

Lahm Same

[dire stratus]

phonsy, alaba, hernandez and more

[flat moth]

Alaba eventually became a cb

[rough igloo]

chat whos better reece james or taa

[dire stratus]

he dint have the pace

[cyan egret]

He is lwk a great rb, his only flaw is 1vs1 duels

[south helm]

Alaba was good when he played Lb and Cb

[flat moth]

Yeah but his natural position is midfield only

[cyan egret]

Yh

[dire stratus]

i like reece more. if not for his injuries he could have been much better than taa

[south helm]

Arnold can be a better player If Xabi played him in the Midfield

[cyan egret]

If chelsea wasn't ass after the ucl win, and recee wasn't injured then he would have been in the conversations of one of the best fullbacks of all time

[rough igloo]

hes also just way better at midfield

[dire stratus]

that did not work with the england nt

when he played as a dm

[rough igloo]

james is more complete than taa

[cyan egret]

Ye because that's his main position

[rough igloo]

also has proven that he starts for englabd

[south helm]

Yeah,well whit Tuchel a can't expect Something

[flat moth]

He did pretty good at rb & bayern won a treble during that so people think he is a natural rb

When in actual he is more like a dlp who can do very well as a rb

[dire stratus]

fair maybe xabi can use him better in that pos

but idk if they have too many more options at rb after that

[flat moth]

@cyan egret simply a way too good of a player, deserves to be in way more conversations than he is in right now

[cyan egret]

2020 was probably the last time when kimmich was fairly rated

[rough igloo]

valverde is way better at rb than midfield

[flat moth]

Yeah, lack of ucl or world cup/euros since has made him underrated oddly enough despite being always elite every other game

[feral smelt]

Kimmich is a phenomenal player

If there is one player i’d take from Bayern it would be him

[cyan egret]

He has been our most consistent player for a while now, will be a shame if he retires without winning a major trophy with germany

[feral smelt]

He can play anywhere on the field
Class player
Class captain

[dire stratus]

he had played there a lot. yea hes also very versatile

[marble kelp]

hi totore

[dire stratus]

used to play rw at ont point

[rough igloo]

@cyan egret @flat moth what changes would yall make to this

[cyan egret]

Neuer?

[rough igloo]

if he comes back from retirement

[flat moth]

Deserved way more praise & claps than he gets

[cyan egret]

I don't think we have a gk problem currently

[flat moth]

He is close to/same level as peak rodri
But doesn’t get the same respect due to lack of trophies

[cyan egret]

If anything, our biggest flaw is depth and finishing

Havertz as a 10 will be a great idea tho

[flat moth]

Yeah he won a confederations cup
But that tournament stopped existing & it’s value was kinda low like nations league

[rough igloo]

yeah

[flat moth]

Its fine

[rough igloo]

musiala and wirtz can also help overload the midfield by drifting inside

[cyan egret]

Oh ye they won it in 2017

[flat moth]

Did rudiger retire

[flat moth]

Yh with a b team as well

[feral smelt]

If kimmich played in that city team he would have won the balon d’or

No idea how people don’t rate kimmich hight
Probably the best german player currently and has been for a few years

[rough igloo]

hes been injury prone and is old

[flat moth]

Yeah for sure, kimmich would get way more praise if he played in a team which wins more

[flat moth]

Yh but probably can do it for 1 more world cup

International football is less intense as well

I would put rudiger on for thiaw for the world cup
Rest your lineup is nice

[cyan egret]

Schlotterbeck is probably the best cb with ball currently

[flat moth]

Really like that stiller & pavlovic midfield

[cyan egret]

What a class player

I rate him so highly

[flat moth]

Yh he needs to leave bvb

[cyan egret]

Stiller has been a bit inconsistent for nt but he's world class at club level

[flat moth]

World class is a bit strong for me
But stiller is pretty good yeah

[cyan egret]

Think he wants to, his relationship with the manager hasn't been that good iirc

[flat moth]

Good controller & distributor

Watered down version of Kroos

[random vault]

Pavlovic is really good alongside kimmich. Should be the two dms for the wc imo

[cyan egret]

Also he said, he will leave the club if they don't show any sign of being in title race

[random vault]

But kimmich plays rb for nt iirc

[cyan egret]

Which looks like it

[flat moth]

They use kimmich at rb as they dont have anyone better there

[cyan egret]

Imo he is

But I have my bias ig

[cyan egret]

Need him at rb more than there tbh

[flat moth]

He is pretty good but I don’t see him as world class

For now at least

[indigo knoll]

He isn't coming back

[rough igloo]

thing is thiaw has been so good for newcastle

[rough igloo]

but no one else is good at rb tho

[flat moth]

How is Tah for Germany

[flat moth]

Yh Kimmich is way better in midfield but you dont have a rb so you have to play him there only

[cyan egret]

Fairs

[flat moth]

Stiller & Pavlovic can do a good enough job in the middle

[indigo knoll]

Imo hasn't been all that

[marble kelp]

should be the starting pivot for Germany

[tardy horizon]

hi Viola

[marble kelp]

ah the game is today

fuck

[indigo knoll]

I will still see goretzka start

[rough igloo]

also musiala and wirtz can drift in with havertz in the center so you have a good midfield advantage

[indigo knoll]

It's inevitable

[rough igloo]

basically 5 midfielders

[cyan egret]

Nagelsmann loves goretzka more to not start him

[cyan egret]

And he shouldn't comeback

We don't have a gk problem

[indigo knoll]

Literally

[rough igloo]

even bischof is better than goretzka

[rough igloo]

yep

and he already won tbf

[indigo knoll]

Grass is greener when you take care of it too

[midnight peak]

@indigo knoll thoughts on todays game?

[indigo knoll]

Positive results

Might be a chance for y'all to actually get back in form too

[midnight peak]

Prob not

[indigo knoll]

Whether it'll be with a L or W

Who knows

If Anton doesn't act up

[tight ruin]

this man (hopefully) plays football today

[cyan egret]

Son

[indigo knoll]

I need him to start

Icl

[tight ruin]

enough

[formal fiber]

I'll be rooting for Spurs tomorrow

[tight ruin]

facts

[indigo knoll]

Against?

[formal fiber]

Arsenal

[midnight peak]

Arsenal

[formal fiber]

North London derby

[cyan egret]

How much do you bet on frankfurt fumble

[indigo knoll]

We'll be rooting for spurs

[cyan egret]

Fuck both

🔥

[formal fiber]

Yessir 🫡

[midnight peak]

I dont think it will end up very well tho 😬

[indigo knoll]

Lmao

[formal fiber]

Chelsea fan leaking again 🥀

[formal fiber]

Whom do they play?

[heavy fjord]

Kick off

[indigo knoll]

Btw

[tight ruin]

cook

[indigo knoll]

What are they feeding the U17 of Italy bro

[heavy fjord]

Up the clarets let's go

[formal fiber]

Into the semis yeah

[cyan egret]

arsenal vs spurs

[formal fiber]

I've watched every knockout till now lol

[indigo knoll]

Inacio WC soon?

[heavy fjord]

30% ball possesion that's what i pray for

[cyan egret]

Köln away

[formal fiber]

Probably he's great for his age

[formal fiber]

Eh Frankfurt win

[tight ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/modeste-celebration-gif-24934764

[midnight peak]

Bayern v Stuttgart

[cyan egret]

It would have ended worse at your home

[tight ruin]

anthony modeste borussia dortmund legend

[cyan egret]

Last time it was 2-0 lost against them at away

[midnight peak]

Atp it doesnt even matter if its home or away

[formal fiber]

Bruh

[midnight peak]

where did bro go

[formal fiber]

@indigo knoll tell kovac to give Inacio his game time in Bundesliga

[marble kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/pep-pep-haaland-haaland-pep-reaction-pep-guardiola-erling-haaland-gif-26866918

[formal fiber]

He has been incredible

Or else sell him to us 🥀

[tight ruin]

went to egypt idk where he is now

[flat moth]

I am not German lol

[worldly orchid]

hello fellow humans

[flat moth]

But yeah I agree

[worldly orchid]

how are y'all ?

@midnight peak @formal fiber hi mods

hi Scourge

[formal fiber]

Hello

[midnight peak]

hi

[flat moth]

Fair enough

[flat moth]

Good day

[cyan egret]

Rooting for both to lose

[tight ruin]

i'm hearing wirtz injured

[worldly orchid]

@flat moth since you are the goat of this server, can you predict who is gonna win the world cup ?

[flat moth]

wdym goat

[spice nymph]

Burnley could’ve scored but took no opportunity

[worldly orchid]

@cyan egret hi bro

[cyan egret]

🇩🇪

[cyan egret]

Yo

[tight ruin]

150 mil and 0 pl g/a and we are almost in december 😭😭

[flat moth]

Being an admin doesnt mean I am a Nostradamus

🥀

[tight ruin]

call up brandt and sure

[formal fiber]

If we being real then Spain

[worldly orchid]

1. Nostradamus is Nas's worst album
2. You predicted so many fkin things. I looked at the barça channel. You predicted absolutely about Raphinha and Dembélé.

[cyan egret]

Last time Wirtz got a g/a in league, it was against dortmund

[formal fiber]

Cook

[marble kelp]

he is yeah

[flat moth]

That was more so tactical & positional things

I am not very good at predicting winners

Though I would say france spain england & argentina are very good

Portugal I don’t rate their coach
But they have great players

Germany have a great coach but lack a bit here & there

[formal fiber]

Portugal if they start benching Ronaldo then ig yeah they would go deep

[marble kelp]

england are my winners

[flat moth]

Other than these 6 no one that good

[tight ruin]

and still julian brandt out g/a'ed him that game and dortmund absolutely owned then

[formal fiber]

Can see that, Tuchel's been good

[marble kelp]

i hope Germany do win, they’re my favorite NT out of the qualified ones

but naglesmann has shown he relies on specific players

[cyan egret]

Both had the same numbers of g/a in that game pal

[granite notch]

nah portugal wont make a deep run

not with martinez

[worldly orchid]

you don't want the USA to win it ?

hi blake btw

how are you ?

[marble kelp]

no absolutely not

[tight ruin]

oh wow but brandt was still better

[marble kelp]

this federation doesn’t need to win the WC

[worldly orchid]

why not ?

[marble kelp]

nor will we

[formal fiber]

Individual quality is there, a good draw and they can make it till semis

[marble kelp]

just a corrupt and vile federation

[cyan egret]

I think we will go far if he doesn't do random experiments on the team

Especially in big matches

Which ofc doesn't seem to work most of the times

[worldly orchid]

I feel like Americans often do not like football

[granite notch]

germany might make semis

[tight ruin]

i have a question

[granite notch]

we'll see

[marble kelp]

tired

[worldly orchid]

they don't even call it football 😭

[tight ruin]

why is manny not in this chat

[marble kelp]

no the sport is growing in the country

[worldly orchid]

I feel you
it's early in the morning

[worldly orchid]

did the Copa América and the CWC help it ?

[marble kelp]

it’s just that the political implications of it are why we don’t like it

[marble kelp]

eh it depends

stadiums for both were empty cuz of prices and timing

[tight ruin]

oh chelsea hatewatch time

[marble kelp]

like some games the stadiums were full as hell

[worldly orchid]

the prices were way too high

[marble kelp]

but others you could see gaps in seating

[formal fiber]

What are the prices for upcoming wc?

[marble kelp]

way too expensive

[granite notch]

triple the last wc

iirc

[tight ruin]

delaps shot lands in row z

[marble kelp]

ive seen seats at like 1k

[worldly orchid]

almost the same prices as UCL games 😭

[midnight peak]

@cyan egret what is your team doin

former team*

[formal fiber]

That's fucked up 😭

[hoary wren]

What else is new

[cyan egret]

Yo what is he talking about

[granite notch]

ucl games depend on the clubs themselves they aren't regulated

[cyan egret]

I'm watching the game tho

[formal fiber]

Chelsea is playing rn?

[tight ruin]

chalobah being shit (not new)

[marble kelp]

i was going to go but nigeria isn’t even qualified so there’s no point in blowing what you make in a month

[cyan egret]

They are unironically shit at attacking

[midnight peak]

Yh

[cyan egret]

It deadass feels like our game against mainz

[worldly orchid]

I actually couldn't manage to go to the club world cup 😭 .
I wanted to watch Real Madrid games but my family didn't agree with that. They support Newell's Old Boys and not Real Madrid. Newell's wasn't qualified

[formal fiber]

Oh Burnley, nvm won't watch it

[hoary wren]

Shit vs shit

😭

Plymouth suck ass

[midnight peak]

El clownsico

[formal fiber]

I'm scared about tonight's match

[worldly orchid]

are you gonna watch World Cup games or not ?

[granite notch]

who y'all facing

[marble kelp]

there was none in my city

[formal fiber]

It would be embarrassing to lose it 20th placed team

[marble kelp]

maybe

[formal fiber]

Fiorentina

[marble kelp]

im apathetic to it right now

[marble kelp]

you’re winning

just move on

[worldly orchid]

in which state do you live ?

[granite notch]

bros scared about this fiorentina side 😭

easy win

[marble kelp]

i live in Houston

[worldly orchid]

ok

[formal fiber]

Have u seen our matches? They fuck up against any side

[marble kelp]

there were no CWC games here but some in Dallas

and that’s 4 hours away

[dusty totem]

This is only Fiorentina.

[granite notch]

easy win trust

[worldly orchid]

I feel like Texas hates football 😭

[tight ruin]

still lucky because we'd never get anything like that in finland

[formal fiber]

Its been 3 matches since Spaletti came and international break came up

[tight ruin]

only thing we had was uefa supercup final 2022

[formal fiber]

I feel the team still isn't used to the tactics

[hoary wren]

I can’t believe these lot beat Liverpool last year
I watched them do this vs my local club
https://fxtwitter.com/fbawaydays/status/1983270638279373161?s=61

Football Away Days (@FBAwayDays)

Some of the worst defending you’ll ever see here, feel for the Plymouth fans that travelled to Mansfield…
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[tight ruin]

where @cyan egret bum club lost btw

[formal fiber]

Wtf is this 😭

[worldly orchid]

that's why Europe is cool.
They have trains that reach 300 km/h.
In the US it's either plane or car 😭

[hoary wren]

The worlds worst defending oat

[worldly orchid]

actually the US have so much money. Why don't they invest in train lines ?

[granite notch]

looney tunes ass shit

[cyan egret]

Wonder what happened in 2024 ucl final

[tight ruin]

frankfurt didnt win

[midnight peak]

2022 UEL

[marble kelp]

it does

well

not really

alot of people here like the sport

[hoary wren]

The poor guys travelled halfway across the country to watch their players do that in the first 6 minutes

[tight ruin]

they played rangers let's be fr

[granite notch]

wait I'll show you something even worse from my own club that happened this season

[formal fiber]

Saw that incredible performance and we decided to buy Krosstic

[marble kelp]

but they beat barcelona

[formal fiber]

Atleast he was cheap

[tight ruin]

true (and dortmund did definitely not lose to rangers too)

[midnight peak]

Knocked out barca, west ham and real betis

[marble kelp]

“west ham”

[hoary wren]

casually ignoring barca

[formal fiber]

West Ham had Rice back then ig?

[granite notch]

@hoary wren https://streamin.me/v/46a26743

check ts out

[hoary wren]

You can NOT be letting Dinamo Kyiv do this to you

[formal fiber]

Soucek early lockdown was good

[tight ruin]

vs athletic club #nooticing

• brandt also scored off the bench

bellingham is shit

[granite notch]

nah its dinamo zagreb lol not that it makes a difference

[hoary wren]

To be fair

[marble kelp]

i purposely ignore barca

[hoary wren]

Zagreb are good

[worldly orchid]

if the US invested massively in train circulation (even in 2025), it would take some years to develop, it would cost a lot, but ultimately it would :

• make car circulation way better
• it there would be fewer busses and it would make commercial transport easier
• it would be much easier and cheaper for most Americans to travel the country or to go from one city to another
• it would considerably reduce carbon emissions throughout the country for the following years
• less cars would be bought and Americans could invest in other things

I just don't understand it 😭 😭

And for football fans (and even other sports' fans), they could travel to watch their team in an easier way

[granite notch]

we have a way better squad

we shouldn't have lost to them 3-1

[flat moth]

Martinez is very bad
But they have talent to brute force wins here & there

[granite notch]

them relying on talent won't last imo

quarter final at best for portugal

thats what I foresee

[celest marsh]

Yeah i was thinking the same

[cyan egret]

How is delap getting bodied by everyone

[flat moth]

Same
But that talent is still so much 1 individual moment & boom

Especially in a low scoring sport like football

[worldly orchid]

I gotta disagree

[flat moth]

On martinez or brute force wins

[worldly orchid]

I think that Roberto Martinez doesn't rely on talent and is a very good coach

[cyan egret]

Are we deadass twin 💔

[flat moth]

Oh nah martinez is deffo not good enough, hasn’t really done that well bar that fa cup with wigan(where he relegated them) & the one time he finished fifth with Everton in 2014

[cyan egret]

Every portugal win I've seen, all of them were because of individual performance rather than any tactical play

[flat moth]

In 2018 world cup he almost messed up to Japan & they defeated Brazil thanks to individual moments from kdb & courtois

[worldly orchid]

one of the main concerns for a national coach is to make his team play better and create connections in between the players.
And he's one of the best at doing that.
You could see that in the Euros or in the Nations League, Portuguese players had more automatisms, connections and more tactical sense than the other teams.

I'm not saying he's perfect

I'm saying that he's doing great at his job

[flat moth]

Portugal seemed rather weak at euros to me

[worldly orchid]

they didn't play that bad against France

and the defence is always on point

[granite notch]

portugals only good performance in the euros was against us lol

[worldly orchid]

yes

[cyan egret]

Tbh they did well, the finishing was inconsistent tho

[granite notch]

and that was cause our coach had fielded the B team thinking that we wouldn't win anyway and it's best to just rest the players for the czechia match

[worldly orchid]

he should get rid of Cristiano tbh

[cyan egret]

But the overall game wasn't that bad

[cyan egret]

He was lwk the reason for the fumble against France

[flat moth]

Nations league they seemed decent vs germany
But in the final against spain it was nuno individual brilliance what won them

[cyan egret]

But let's not make the topic about Ronaldo

[worldly orchid]

I gotta disagre again

Nuno Mendes had a great game but Portugal's midfield really did well

and their defense was on point too

[flat moth]

Most actual Portuguese people I have talked to heavily dislike him as well

[worldly orchid]

many hate him, many like him

[flat moth]

It’s mostly foreign ronaldo fans that seem heavy & trusting of him

[worldly orchid]

it's a bit like Southgate
On the internet he's hated, if you talk to English people they often like him

I think he's better than Southgate

[granite notch]

no shot english people like southgate

theres just no way

[worldly orchid]

but Southgate was never that bad of a coach either

[granite notch]

he was so hated

[flat moth]

Average English man actually does like southgate

[worldly orchid]

on the internet yes

[granite notch]

really? damn

[worldly orchid]

but actually I don't trust opinions about coaches coming from the internet

[flat moth]

Lots of English people were positive of southgate because if you remember before him they were in a decade long banter era

[worldly orchid]

most French dudes on the internet hate Deschamps even though he's one of the best coaches of all time

it makes no sense

[flat moth]

Lots of them think southgate is the reason they got out of it

[worldly orchid]

they just like to be different

[granite notch]

most turkish people dislike montella too even though hes one of the best coaches this national team has ever seen

[worldly orchid]

yes

[granite notch]

I dont get it at all

[feral smelt]

Blame it on Martinez

He made terrible choices

[flat moth]

Yh good players but system seems inconsistent & reliant on individuals

[worldly orchid]

Football fans like to act different when it comes to their national team. They want to hate their coach just so that they can say "I know football better than casuals therefore I can say that our coach is terrible and y'all can't understand it"

[worldly orchid]

in a national team it's systematically reliant on individuals tbf

it's not like club football

[feral smelt]

He subbed off Nuno and Leao who were the biggest threats to france and brought in 2 slower defenders in.

The game was 0-0 and he played for the draw.
Even the commentators were baffled

[flat moth]

Obviously you cant have complex team based systems, but in martinez case it seems to more extreme levels

[worldly orchid]

I actually think it's the opposite

I think his print is more apparent than in other teams

[flat moth]

Crazy
I totally forgot that

[worldly orchid]

the Martinez ball is more fluid than in other national teams

[worldly orchid]

all coaches have moments like that

even Luis Enrique does stupid things at times

even Scaloni did that

you don't judge a coach based on that

[feral smelt]

Martinez has done bad décisions for years

[worldly orchid]

I'm not saying he's perfect, I'm saying he is good enough

[feral smelt]

We have far better portuguese coaches out there

FPF just wanted a replacement to fast and went with Martinez for some reason

[worldly orchid]

he makes mistakes but the good he brings to the team and the connections/confidence he adds to the players outweighs the bad decisions he takes at times

[granite notch]

@feral smelt do most portugese folk dislike martinez?

[feral smelt]

If we want to win the world cup we need far better

[worldly orchid]

you defeated Spain

and they had all of their players

[feral smelt]

It’s not that we dislike him.
We just don’t think he is good

[craggy pike]

no

[worldly orchid]

you lost to France on penalties

[worldly orchid]

who was missing ?

[dire stratus]

why is he still here then if hes not satisfactory

[craggy pike]

Idk I dont remember

[worldly orchid]

Isco was there if my memory is good

[craggy pike]

But im sure it wasnt the full team

[feral smelt]

Ask FPF

[worldly orchid]

Rodrigo wasn't there that's true

[craggy pike]

Yamal and nico I think

[dire stratus]

maybe thay think hes good enough

[worldly orchid]

I personally think it is satisfactory

[flat moth]

He won nations league probably thats why & hasn’t had a huge disaster

[worldly orchid]

they were both playing

[dire stratus]

yea kinda fair

[granite notch]

martinez' performance so far is satisfactory but I feel like portugal could do better

[flat moth]

Losing to france on pens in a quarter final & then winning nations league & comfortably qualifying to the world cup isn’t really sackable

[flat moth]

Yes, he isn’t raising their ceiling

[dire stratus]

yea ik hes not the best but hes doing alright. as they say why fix something that already works

[worldly orchid]

but Portugal never won anything big besides a Euro

the expectations are not the same

[flat moth]

That shouldn’t really matter rn

Its a golden generation of sorts

[worldly orchid]

you had a golden generation in the 2000s

[flat moth]

That is why expectations should be adjusted

I am not Portuguse
+it wasnt as stacked as this

[worldly orchid]

Portugal is lacking defensive backbone

[hybrid bramble]

@heavy fjord burnley 1-0 down

You better make a comeback

I don't wanna see a Chelsea win

[hybrid bramble]

Like a captain in the backline?

[worldly orchid]

a player that you're sure is gonna hold the defense

like Upamecano in France

Otamendi

nah not Otamendi

Pacho

[worldly orchid]

kinda

if anyone has a topic to discuss about, just ping me.
I have a vast football knowledge and I can debate about everything

[granite notch]

hmmm

[granite notch]

what leagues do you follow

[worldly orchid]

Ligue 1, Liga, Premier League, Argentinian league, and a bit of Bundesliga

and sometimes I watch Brazilian Serie A games

[formal fiber]

Being a psg and Burnley fan was one of the weirdest thing I encountered in this server for sure 🤧

[worldly orchid]

🤧

[hybrid bramble]

It's an interesting combo

That's for sure

[formal fiber]

Really interesting yeah

[celest marsh]

And hes polish

[granite notch]

you're argentinian?

[formal fiber]

That too lol

[dark badger]

Wow

[granite notch]

@worldly orchid which clubs do you support

Im tryna find a debate topic

[worldly orchid]

RMA and NOB
(Real Madrid and Newell's Old Boys)

[cyan egret]

Thoughts on doan

[worldly orchid]

I didn't watch many Frankfurt games this season sorry 😭

is he good ?

[cyan egret]

Ye

[dark badger]

Future of football

He can definitely surpass the likes of Nakamura and Son

[granite notch]

whens the next time you're going to the stadium again

[worldly orchid]

Son isn't japanese

[dark badger]

Yea but he’s Asian

[cyan egret]

Idk for now, gonna go to any home where i can get tickets

[worldly orchid]

😭

[dark badger]

Ur not understanding

I put son there to say he can be the best Asian footballer oat

[cyan egret]

🔥

[worldly orchid]

mmh debatable

Lee Kang-In is looking great atm

[dark badger]

I love that guy

[granite notch]

@worldly orchid you've ever been to newell's old boys stadium?

[dark badger]

He’s great to watch

[worldly orchid]

yes a few times

[granite notch]

how is the atmosphere

[dark badger]

Always sign him on career mode

[worldly orchid]

mmh

[dark badger]

Just say it sucks bro

[worldly orchid]

it's one of the best experiences you can have in South America

imo

[granite notch]

you got any pictures inside the stadium?

[worldly orchid]

especiallly during the clasico against Rosario

[worldly orchid]

I'm on my computer 😭
I have them on my phone

I don't have discord on my phone

I can find you some on the internet if you want

[granite notch]

sure

[granite notch]

damnn

how much is the stadium capacity

[dark badger]

47

[worldly orchid]

40 k

wait actually 49

[dark badger]

Close enough

[granite notch]

only slightly less than ours

[worldly orchid]

sometimes the weather forces us to close some areas so it can be a bit less than 49

but it's usually 49

[worldly orchid]

you live in Istanbul ?

[granite notch]

yes

born and raised here

[worldly orchid]

is it the best atmosphere in Türkiye ?

[granite notch]

istanbul clubs in general or just specifically fenerbahçe?

[worldly orchid]

fenerbaçhe

[granite notch]

I cant say, have only been to şükrü saraçoğlu (fenerbahçe's stadium) and no other stadiums so I cant comment on if we're the best or not

however our atmosphere is really good

I can say that much

[heavy fjord]

I see

Not bad tho

[worldly orchid]

atmospheres in Türkiye are often amazing I feel

[granite notch]

yeah

@worldly orchid you want a picture from inside the stadium?

[worldly orchid]

yes

[granite notch]

took this back when I went to the fenerbahçe - karagümrük match

[worldly orchid]

wait you are with the ultras ?

[granite notch]

yeah

[worldly orchid]

🔥

[granite notch]

Im part of an ultra-ish group

its a student group

[worldly orchid]

so cool
so you meet them often ?

[granite notch]

@worldly orchid I helped the ultras make the tifo for the upcoming fenerbahçe - galatasaray derby 🔥

[granite notch]

yeah

go to matches with them

[heavy fjord]

Go burnley

Please

[worldly orchid]

you need to be a good artist to do that ?

[granite notch]

nah

[hybrid bramble]

Come on Burnley

Win it

[granite notch]

my job was simply painting

[hybrid bramble]

FOR HUBERT!!

[worldly orchid]

@heavy fjord your other team is gonna win tonight anyways

[hybrid bramble]

Lmao

[granite notch]

@worldly orchid you've ever been to the bernabeu?

or do you plan to atleast

[heavy fjord]

Yh

[heavy fjord]

We can do it

Same number of shots and 45% ball possesion

[formal fiber]

For Hub3rt 🫡

[worldly orchid]

once
it was in 22/23 against Mallorca

[hybrid bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-celebration-hany-mukhtar-hany-mukthar-nashville-soccer-club-honor-gif-8609363641000223552

[granite notch]

nice

[worldly orchid]

it was cool
I would like to go there again but Spain is kinda far away

[granite notch]

how was the atmosphere compared to newells old boys

[worldly orchid]

Newell's atmosphere is better but the Bernabéu is a far better stadium

[granite notch]

yeah bernabeu as a stadium is better

but I heard the atmosphere is actually kinda lacking

[worldly orchid]

it's not that bad but sometimes it's almost silent

our ultras in Newell's are almost always singing

[granite notch]

same here

@worldly orchid does newells old boys have any derbies

[worldly orchid]

yes

[granite notch]

like any rivals from the same city

[worldly orchid]

against Rosario Central

[granite notch]

you've been to a derby before?

[worldly orchid]

it's the 2nd most important game in Argentina after Boca vs River Plate

[granite notch]

so you've been nice

I have never been able to attend a derby here

neither vs galatasaray or beşiktaş

[worldly orchid]

that's sad

[granite notch]

tickets sell out in miliseconds

[granite notch]

Im gonna go to my first in the 1st of december against galatasaray hopefully

[worldly orchid]

you can't go on tickeptlace ?

[granite notch]

cause my uni ultra group might reserve me a ticket

[granite notch]

resales are banned in turkey

[worldly orchid]

oh

ok

[granite notch]

its not possible to transfer tickets

and even if it was an option

it would be insanely expensive

so unaffordable

[worldly orchid]

often it's 40% or 50% more expensive than casual tickets

because you need to pay an additional tax

[granite notch]

Im gonna not have to deal with this next season hopefully

when I get a season ticket

[heavy fjord]

If burnley would win against west ham they would be 14th

Amazing feeling it would be

Unfortunately

We lost

[past fern]

New Daily Question:

#daily-question message

[upper zephyr]

Hello hello

[stark oriole]

Hi to everyone

[heavy fjord]

Hi

Wassup

[stark oriole]

Chilling

How about you?

[heavy fjord]

Chilling too

Sunny day

[stark oriole]

Same boat

[cyan egret]

Hub3rt

[stark oriole]

Kind of Sunny too

[cyan egret]

Your club passing accuracy is funny

Icl

[heavy fjord]

What means icl

[granite notch]

I can't lie

[dark badger]

Which one

[cyan egret]

Ofc burnley yeo, i don't watch psg

[bitter crypt]

Hehe

Burnley lost

[lusty bay]

we're 2nd

w

[heavy fjord]

Yeah

[heavy fjord]

Real?

[formal fiber]

De Rossi's first game as Genoa manager today

[heavy fjord]

Chelsea?

[formal fiber]

Yeah he's a Chelsea fan

[tight ruin]

very good self react

[cyan egret]

I didn't even self react

[low rover]

Bayern getting cooked damn

[cyan egret]

At home btw

[dire stratus]

very windy and getting dark

[low rover]

How did we fail the test man

[cyan egret]

You played the ucl after a while tbh, understandble

[bitter crypt]

It's so cool

[bitter crypt]

PSG will win trust

[tame jolt]

Bayern getting cooked?

[formal fiber]

Didn't expect it all tbh

[dire stratus]

damn yea

i jjust realized today was matchday 💀

[heavy fjord]

Why he have nedved on pfp 😭

[dire stratus]

completely forgot about the chelsea match too 😭

[formal fiber]

Maybe cuz he is a baller

[heavy fjord]

Same

[tame jolt]

Nvm

Bayern equalised

[polar kindle]

how many of you know him?

[formal fiber]

Didn't equalise yet

Just 1 goal

[tame jolt]

Mb

[polar kindle]

lennart karl is so good

okay szobo back at RB

thought bradley might start

[dire stratus]

why dint he ?

[cyan egret]

@midnight peak What was that yeo

[polar kindle]

damn

forest's defence

typical sean dyche

kerkez is looking good till now

[dire stratus]

dortmund had scored

[cyan egret]

Another lmao

Funny

[dire stratus]

beier

not bad

leverkusen 3:0 already

i thought wolfsburg where good

[cyan egret]

What

They are a mess currently bro

😭

[polar kindle]

salah

[dire stratus]

i dont watch bundesliga as much so i wouldnt know

why do u keep changing ur display name btw

[polar kindle]

olise

equalizer

[dire stratus]

goaal

[low rover]

What a goal

[dire stratus]

typical olise goal

[cyan egret]

I didn't?

My name is eineshi yeo

💔

[dire stratus]

it was eine a few hours ago 😭

[low rover]

Freiburg’s positioning is funny as hell

[dire stratus]

i have noticed u swithc between them many times

[cyan egret]

That was two days ago 💔

[shrewd fractal]

time dilationnis wild

[dire stratus]

no i could swear i saw it as eine this moring

morning

[cyan egret]

Let's not talk about off topic mate

Back to Bundesliga

[dire stratus]

forget it

[cyan egret]

So, bayern is ruining the day by winning

[dire stratus]

is barca match delayed ?

[dire stratus]

they will

what happened to the barca match

fotmob showing kickoff time at 6:15 but match not begun

now 6:20

[lost dawn]

Pretty sure it’s just delayed slightly

[low rover]

Barcelona starting yamal lewa balde kounde to beat Bilbao

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flightreacts-tongue-tongue-laugh-gif-13724048537815479089

See you at the bridge

[dire stratus]

oh r u watching live ?

started

[lost dawn]

It started rn

[dire stratus]

balde at LW 💀

[low rover]

This probably not the place to troll Barca fans

[dire stratus]

frran at lcm

[low rover]

Crazy work

[dire stratus]

?

[low rover]

I meant my message earlier lol

[dire stratus]

flick might be on to something here

[low rover]

Good managers have crazy ideas

Goal

https://tenor.com/view/barcelona-lewa-lewandowski-robert-lewandowski-uefa-gif-26902178

[dire stratus]

did not take too long

many to come ig

i kinda see why

he changed the positions

[copper badger]

Liverpool spend too much energy in first half

[dire stratus]

its thier playstyle

[copper badger]

Liverpool so bad at defend

[dark badger]

GOAL

😭😭😭

[hasty fog]

Lol

[formal fiber]

Liv 1-0 down

Losing to Sean Dyche ball 😭

[copper badger]

meh

it's goal

[hasty fog]

Dyche masterclass

[copper badger]

why ref

[dark badger]

Aw man

No goal

[formal fiber]

Yeah

[dark badger]

I blame this on Juve

[hasty fog]

Unlucky

[formal fiber]

Wtf

[dark badger]

Should’ve gifted us dybala

[formal fiber]

He's still at Roma go get him

[dark badger]

Amorim won’t buy him💔

But he rather buy some random named Orozco

No clue who he is

[bitter crypt]

Liverpool losing yeah

Let's keep the crisis alive

[dark badger]

Hope they get relegated

Forest is actually frying them

[polar kindle]

west ham beating bournemouth atm

[tame jolt]

Aight so they just scored 4 😭

[formal fiber]

Yeah saw 😭

New season, same old Bundesliga winners

[tame jolt]

Yeah kompany is cooking

[bitter crypt]

This would be so fun

[tame jolt]

Didn't know he had it in him b4 this szn

Could see him replace pep at city in a year or two

[dusty totem]

Why would bro even hate watch Bayern Munich.

[tight ruin]

oh censor messages from that server
hes right tho

[dark badger]

What

[dire stratus]

lol saw this coming all day

[sick fjord]

Idk anymore man

[kind meadow]

OH YES

OH YEESS

2-0

[dire stratus]

6-2 😭

hehe

[raw lark]

Back

[raw lark]

No way

[lost dawn]

Bayern was winning always

[raw lark]

😭

Is Nico ghosting

[polar kindle]

dortmund can't actually win the title like this

ever i mean

[raw lark]

They will

In 30 years

[dire stratus]

no way

i thought dortmund would win

damn

should have watched it

[polar kindle]

honestly, edin terzic can save

[tight ruin]

kane the type of guy to show up after everything is already built

[tight ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/jordon-mj-no-no-no-meme-gif-9178313869430570692

[kind meadow]

FERMIINN

[radiant aurora]

Villa losing to Wolves next week is the most predictable result in football since Villa losing to Liverpool

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fr 😭

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we will be there

[tulip linden]

0:3 now 💪😭

[polar kindle]

2-2 bournemouth equalized

[tulip linden]

Loosing 0:3 to Nottingham

Nah slot is Finished

[polar kindle]

why does van dijk always defend like that

[tulip linden]

I feel like it was more klopps achievement

[hasty fog]

Liverpool lmao

[radiant aurora]

Will be interesting to see Liverpool during AFCON. Seems they'll never drop Salah, but they'll have no choice then

[dusty totem]

Top 10 biggest disappointments in 25/26 season (opinion based) :

1. Fiorentina
2. Liverpool
3. Girona
4. Stade Brestois 29
5. Nottingham Forest
6. Juventus
7. FC Barcelona
8. Ajax Amsterdam
9. Benfica
10. Bayer Leverkusen

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girona was expected

barca is not doing bad

bayer is the second best team in bundesliga...

[radiant aurora]

I've no idea what this list represents

[inland plover]

I would argue so far the biggest upsets in La Liga are Real Sociedad and Athletic Bilbao

performance wise

[dusty totem]

Basically the biggest upsets this season.

[inland plover]

in Italy, Juve and Fiore

in England maybe Wolves? they havent won a game still

[radiant aurora]

Hmm. Maybe it's a language thing. Here upset means to upset the odds

[dusty totem]

It's the biggest upset, not the worst clubs of the season. Otherwise I would put OGC Shit there.

[radiant aurora]

Like Leicester winning the title was an upset