other-european-leagues

[hidden valley]

Milan 4th 🚬

[twilit lotus]

Then Wilson cooks Milan

Same difference

[daring galleon]

u newcastle fan?

[twilit lotus]

Nah

[rancid loom]

Manchester city
Leipzig
Young boy
Crvena zvezda

Pretty straight forward

[twilit lotus]

Just like their team this season

[hidden valley]

City
Leipzig
Zvezda
YB

[rancid loom]

Valid

[twilit lotus]

Crvena to surprise and get 3rd

[hidden valley]

Zvezda third sadly

[twilit lotus]

[lilac rose]

dang

[rancid loom]

Dunno bout that

[hidden valley]

Lmao zvezda wont even surprise anyone by that

[lilac rose]

Imagine Joma being more prevalent

than Adidas

[hidden valley]

They are literally better than young boys

[rancid loom]

Istanbul spor has a nice badge

Tbh

[twilit lotus]

It’s tough ngl

[lilac rose]

that's Probably Reusch

[rancid loom]

We will see it's my personal prediction

Group h

The last group

[clear copper]

zvezda is literally gonna win both of the games against young boys

[rancid loom]

Barcelona
Porto
Shakhtar
Antwerp

[hidden valley]

Barca
Porto
Antwerp
Shakhtar

[rancid loom]

In order

[lilac rose]

I could try and check on how many kits I own from what Brand

let me make a Pie chart myself

[hidden valley]

Antwerp above Shakhtar is a hot take but I'll go with that

[rancid loom]

We will see about that genie

[twilit lotus]

Porto
Barca
Shakhter
Antwerp

[rancid loom]

Exactly

[rancid loom]

Shakhtar is the better team

No doubt

[hidden valley]

W Krasso will cook them

[clear copper]

young boys literall got destroyed by maccabi they scored 3 goals with like 0.3 xg

[rancid loom]

Tomorrow we do predictions like this with conference and europa

[clear copper]

they are lucky they are even there and they played vs the worst team in playoffs

[rancid loom]

They destroyed young boys so much oh my god they destroyed them so much to the point of losing with 3 or 4 goals oh my god

[hidden valley]

Yeah but no real home advantage + idk i kinda feel like it will happen

[twilit lotus]

Haifa bottled that

They shoulda won

[clear copper]

look at the stats mr genius

[rancid loom]

Twerps aren't doing anything in ucl

Goodbye

For good

[hidden valley]

Yh i think they'll do something in uel later

[rancid loom]

I see a 3-0 for yb I'm pretty sure

Idk how haifa is the one that destroyed them when they literally got battered

[clear copper]

0.3 xg bro

[rancid loom]

Damn

[clear copper]

literally scored from the 2 chances they had in a game

maccabi was just really unlucky

[rancid loom]

I like the part where they won

[twilit lotus]

Maccabi was just shit

Unfortunately

They got so many chances and missed

[rancid loom]

Absolutely

Their counterparts tel aviv are winning though

[twilit lotus]

Yah but that was celje

[clear copper]

yeah lost 3-0 when their opponent had 2 shots on target they shit frfr

still my point is

[rancid loom]

Winning et least

[twilit lotus]

True

[clear copper]

red stars goal difference this season is like

35-5

they are gonna destroy them

[twilit lotus]

Having clinical finishing is unfortunately part of being a good team

[rancid loom]

Crazy

We will see though

[twilit lotus]

Brighton and Liverpool will cook them if they miss chances

[clear copper]

still they played better than young boys

you also need luck to score goals and win thats part of the game too

and they didnt have it

[twilit lotus]

I wanna see what the Czech teams cook in Europa ngl

[clear copper]

theres more than 1?

[twilit lotus]

Defending is part of the game. The reason Haifa got so many chances ia cuz YB stayed back after scoring and went like “have the ball, we’ll see what happens”. classic mourinho ball

[rancid loom]

A Greek team is winning the conference league this season

It's either paok or olympiacos

One of those 2 are winning the conference league

You saw today

What paok are capable of at home

[twilit lotus]

Yah Sparta and Slavia

[rancid loom]

You saw it against hajduk

You saw it against beitar

All games with at least 3 goal difference

4-0 6-1 on agg. Against hearts

Nothing for paok absolutely nothing

Paok at home turn into Manchester city

[twilit lotus]

Look at this game, you’d think that Leverkusen was the better team right? But that was all part of Roma’s plan. Better team isn’t always the team that presses, it’s the team that get results

3-0 simply says young boys were the better team

[rancid loom]

Young boys was the better team

Whoever says otherwise

Has problems

[twilit lotus]

Depends on outings

Pairings

[rancid loom]

I say they win against most teams

Aek pao paok and olympiacos

They win against most teams

We could see 4 teams in the conference league

[twilit lotus]

Turkish teams would knock them out tho

Fenerbache and Beaiktas

[lilac rose]

Ring Chart of all the jersey brands I own

[rancid loom]

Let's say paok were to face adana demirspor for example, away 1-1 at home 3-0

That's done

Next opponent

[clear copper]

so you would say that the result always shows who played better football in a game?

[lilac rose]

wait this is wrong

[twilit lotus]

Nah, but this time it did

[rancid loom]

Olympiacos is better than besiktas

[rancid loom]

Olympiacos is better than besiktas

They would win

Pao has a chance

All of them have a chance against besiktas

[clear copper]

cause they scored 2 lucky goals and parked to bus "tactically"

[rancid loom]

And maybe even fenerbahce

Olympiacos can do it

[twilit lotus]

Talking about PAOK, cuz Olympiakos might not relegate

[rancid loom]

Not sure about the others

[clear copper]

literally a goal from a corner and an own goal

park the bus

win the game showing absolutelly nothing

better team

lol

[rancid loom]

Paok have enough quality to reach at least the semi finals

If they reach the final it might be done for the other team

The final is in Athens keep in mind

The final could be a home game for aek

[clear copper]

anyways the time will show how shit of a team they are and how absolutelly destroyed they will get

[twilit lotus]

Would you say Chelsea was the better team here?

[clear copper]

idk bro

i havent watched the game

[lilac rose]

fixed it

[twilit lotus]

Fair enough

[clear copper]

i agree that stats dont always shwo the better team

but like scoring 3 goals with xg of 0.3 is absurd and just considered lucky

[twilit lotus]

Green team could use home advantage to bully

[rancid loom]

If its a final between aek and Aston villa for example

I see aek winning that

100% aek is winning it in their home stadium

Tell you why

The ultras

Are crazy

They will bang pots and shit outside of the hotel room of the opposing team

They will not let them sleep they will do anything to give aek an even bigger advantage

If a Greek team makes a final they'll win it

[twilit lotus]

They scored their first goal in 23rd minute, then scored the second 28th minute

Obviously they sit back after that and don’t press so their XG will be low.

Like if Maccabi didn’t press after being 2-0 down they are completely useless

[rancid loom]

Because of the ultras

[twilit lotus]

Like no team unless they want to prove a point continues pressing after being 2-0 up

[twilit lotus]

Nah AEK va Villa would be wild, but I think they put more policing on fan shenanigans now after what happened in Athens

So all the ultra stupidity will not be that serious here I think

[rancid loom]

It will

Greek ultras are the craziest in the world

Right next to those Argentinians and Brazilians

[full crane]

Bayern Munich - Manchester United - Kopenhag - Galatasaray

[twilit lotus]

you just reminded me, copa libertadores today

[long tundra]

Legia Warsaw won against Midtjylland 2:1 (0:0, 1:1, 1:1, 1:1) on penalties at home in the 2nd match of the play-offs of the Europa Conference League qualification, win 5:4 on aggregate and advance to the group stage of the Europa Conference League. The match was officiated by referee Simone Sozza (Seregno). The match was played at the Polish Army Stadium in Warsaw. The attendance was 27,312 spectators. In the previous match Legia Warsaw drew 3:3 away. Everything was to be decided in this meeting. The favorite of the match were Legia Warszawa. It started calmly, but above all less spontaneously than in the meeting in Herning. There were occasional quick attacks, and the teams presented us with an even and balanced game. Both teams had some chances, but they were neither concrete nor threatening. Neither side took any risks.

Midtjylland created attacks easily, played good defense, and the last bits of the first half were in their favour. In the 2nd half we were greeted by a Josue free-kick that could have gone in but it didn't. Legia Warszawa cooperated, and the culmination of this was Paweł Wszołek's cross to Tomas Pekhart's head and taking the lead in the 53rd minute. While in the first half neither side took risks, after scoring a goal Legia Warszawa began to take risks. They tried to create more combination attacks which resulted in Midtjylland attacking. Meanwhile, Legia Warszawa began to provoke. They focused on playing in goal, and they left a lot of space behind the field. Paulinho took advantage of this and scored an equalizer in the 71st minute. He shot in the middle of the goal, but luckily for him the ball bounced off the head of one of the defenders and beat the goalkeeper. Midtjylland played a very good game.

The second half towards the end seemed even more subdued than the first. In the first half of extra time, both sides had chances, but they were harmless. In the 110th minute, substitute Ernest Muci tried his luck, but the goalkeeper managed to catch the ball. The refereeing in this match left a little to be desired. In the 2nd half of extra time, we did not see any more dangerous situations. In the penalty shootout, Legia Warszawa turned out to be better. By advancing, Legia Warszawa sealed the fact that we will see 2 Polish teams in the group rounds of the European cups from the 2015/2016 season. After this match, Legia Warszawa advanced to the group round of the Europa Conference League, and Midtjylland were eliminated from it. The next match Legia Warszawa will play against Widzew Łódź at home in the Polish classic as part of the 7th round of PKO BP Ekstraklasa.

The match will start at <t:1693755000:F>. Meanwhile, Midtjylland will be back to battling for points in the Superliga for good. They will play theie next match in Herning at the MCH Arena as part of the 7th round in <t:1693764000:F>, and the opponent will be Aarhus.

Match progress:
[1]:0 - 53' Tomas Pekhart (Paweł Wszołek) (Legia Warszawa)
1:[1] - 71' Paulinho (Midtjylland)

Penalties (6:5):

1. Goal - Bartosz Slisz (Legia Warszawa)
2. Goal - Gue-Sung Cho (Midtjylland)
3. Goal - Ernest Muci (Legia Warszawa)
4. Goal - Juninho (Midtjylland)
5. Goal - Radovan Pankov (Legia Warszawa)
6. Goal - Andre Romer (Midtjylland)
7. Goal - Blaz Kramer (Legia Warszawa)
8. Goal - Oliver Sorensen (Midtjylland)
9. Goal - Josue (Legia Warszawa)
10. Goal - Nikolas Dyhr (Midtjylland)
11. Goal - Maciej Rosołek (Legia Warszawa)
12. Missed - Stefan Gartenmann (Midtjylland)

[bright osprey]

yeah...

as a Braga fan/partner (Socio), I think we might get eliminated from UCL 😭

[lilac rose]

Cho Gue-Sung is at Midtylland now?

Oh wow

Well, Kim Min-Jae was right

Kim Min-Jae recommended Fenerbahçe to Cho Gue-Sung

Saying that it's a good way to become successful in Europe

But oh well

Morelos will have to do ig

[full crane]

🔥

[toxic aurora]

🔥🔥🔥

[serene spear]

For the greek fans

Saying, when Thursdays 3 of the athenian clubs play the UEFA matches

There gonna be marshal law on the streets

We are not affected

[thick oasis]

How will this affect Aris Thessaloniki?

The biggest club in Greece

[molten cloud]

Trabzonspor gonna offer Bartosz slisz
Probably 2 or 3 transfer later

[balmy torrent]

Galatasaray in death group

Only can win against Kopenhagen and maybe maybe draw with united

Qarabağ FK 10th time consecutively qualifies into UEL group stages

[gritty narwhal]

Galatasaray 17th time consecutively qualifies into Ucl group stages

[balmy torrent]

I thought Galatasaray was in Europa league in 2022 @gritty narwhal

[gritty narwhal]

2021 / 2022

[balmy torrent]

UEFA site shows that Gs was eliminated in second qualifying round

[gritty narwhal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBJHMzFcAsI

Russ millions ▶️ Gala

[gritty narwhal]

This Ucl

[balmy torrent]

I didn't understand

but nvm

I am so happy

[noble dagger]

BRO WHERE IS PREMIER LEAGUE CHANNEL

[small agate]

Mrd am telling

The most interesting

[livid field]

wasnt last season 2022-23, thats 2 season ago?

[balmy torrent]

level +3

[molten cloud]

Who invited rangers ☠️☠️☠️

[livid field]

didnt they get to a final not long ago?

[fierce locust]

Sporting better

[vagrant rock]

Galata on top🔥🔥🔥(poll to who will top group A)

[fierce locust]

Would've voted gala

[vagrant rock]

U can still vote

[balmy torrent]

Bayern will be on top

Galata and United will have a war for the second place

[vagrant rock]

Obv

[livid field]

doubt there will be too much of a war for second place. united should on paper be quite a bit better. tho that might be Bias

[balmy torrent]

United is a$$ for few seaons

[molten cloud]

İdk but Manchester United will be 3

[balmy torrent]

Galata has a chance of winning

[molten cloud]

They are not good btw

Galatasaray better

[balmy torrent]

yeah

[gritty narwhal]

[livid field]

we are having another slow start an people immideatly assume we are shit again, same shit last year. yall will see.

[molten cloud]

Imagine starting 11 in UCL against Galatasaray

Then

https://tenor.com/view/mauro-icardi-mauro-icardi-galatasaray-cimbom-gif-27051860

[rancid loom]

Galatasaray 3rd

There's no way otherwise

[balmy torrent]

nope

gala can beat man utd

[rancid loom]

Hardly

And man utd won't let their guard down

[balmy torrent]

Can't wait for UEL draw

[rancid loom]

Same

It's in like an hour and a half now

I'm scared but it's gonna be interesting

Do yo know where I can watch it?

Uefa.com like with the champions league?

[neat phoenix]

Yea gonna be interesting uel draw

What about conference

But its no reason for me to watch since romania has no fucking teams

[rancid loom]

3 Greek clubs in the uel

[neat phoenix]

Yea

At what time is it

[rancid loom]

Paok beat hearts 6-1 (expected)

[neat phoenix]

Uel I wanna see because of the greek teams as u said but conference I dont want to see the draws since farul and sepsi got eliminate that rlly Hurts ngl but I would watch it just to see what group is paok in

[rancid loom]

I'm gonna watch both

[neat phoenix]

But do u know at what time is europa and conference league draws take place?

[rancid loom]

In conference we have also frankfurt, ludogorets, Ferencvaros

[neat phoenix]

Yea u have a good reason since they are from ur country 😂

[neat phoenix]

I like ludogorets and frankfurt

[rancid loom]

We are in the same time zone, so for the uh

Lemme check

[neat phoenix]

Ight

[rancid loom]

Conference is at 15:30

Europa is at 14:00

[neat phoenix]

Ok thanks

So there is a little bit more

[neat phoenix]

Until they happen

[rancid loom]

2 hours

Until europa league

[neat phoenix]

@rancid loom can any greek teams play each other in uel? Just imagine

[neat phoenix]

Yea ik I said there is still some time until they happen

[neat phoenix]

Olympiacos vs aek💀

[rancid loom]

Can only happen from quarter finals and on

[neat phoenix]

Oh ok

[rancid loom]

Can't have 2 teams from one country in the same group

[neat phoenix]

Didnt know it was impossible

[rancid loom]

Greece has the most teams in europa league this season

I think

I'm not even entirely sure everybody that qualified for the europa and conference league so I'm gonna find out later today when the draw starts

I know legia for conference

Genk conference

[neat phoenix]

True u guys rlly have a good season that makes It better for me since we are so shit like I dont fucking know how romania is so shit like what do we do wrong

[rancid loom]

At least you aren't a bulgaria supporter bro

That would be hell

[balmy torrent]

fr

[neat phoenix]

I dont watch bulgaria football I only knew about ludogorets thats it

[rancid loom]

It would be be miserable

[neat phoenix]

But I dont watch them either

[neat phoenix]

Worse than romania in the past years?

[rancid loom]

Supporting Bulgaria is willingly subjecting yourself to psychological torture

[rancid loom]

Way worse

[neat phoenix]

I mean its 1st time after 5 years romania has no teams anywhere is Bulgaria doing even worse

[neat phoenix]

Dang

But like

Do they at least qual for groups

[rancid loom]

Ludogorets is in conference league

[neat phoenix]

Yea see they are doing better than us rn

[rancid loom]

They started off from champions league so it would be kinda hard to not qualify for anything

[neat phoenix]

In the past years they qualed every year right?

[rancid loom]

Don't remember

[neat phoenix]

Farul was the same as ludogorets AND LOOK WHAT FUCKING HAPPENED

[spiral sky]

https://twitter.com/mufcMPB/status/1697534997509427238?t=6_MtFRQFAyvufFjK071OOA&s=19

mufcmpb (@mufcMPB)

🚨🚨💣 Lazio are in talks with Manchester United to sign Mason Greenwood on loan! The Italian club are determined to get the deal done. Olympiacos and Beşiktaş have also explored a loan. #MUFC [@johncrossmirror]

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Twitter · Sep 1, 2023, 9:00 AM

Loool

[rancid loom]

Club suicide

[neat phoenix]

They didnt qual in the previous years?

[rancid loom]

Feyenoord is qualifying over the

[fierce locust]

Pupopopeps always qualifies

[neat phoenix]

its because ten hag he an idiot I wanted greenwood he was good

[rancid loom]

They did they made the ro32

[spiral sky]

Ola solbakken arrived

[rancid loom]

Of the conference league

They lost to anderlecht

[fierce locust]

They lost to pendershit lmaooo

Imagine

Even fcsb didnt

[rancid loom]

It was like 0-1 on pens 😭 every single pen was missed except one

[neat phoenix]

So they even manage to exit the groups huh💀 we just want to be in conference thats romania main goal its impossible for us to pass the groups

[balmy torrent]

bros 2 meters tall

[fierce locust]

Rare Time pudo misses pens because they usually need pens to qualify last minute

[rancid loom]

😭 It would be hard for them to get grouped, but apart from ludogorets everything is just kinda shitty in Europe

[spiral sky]

He could r*pe (they blocked the word smh) teams like lamia or kifisia

[rancid loom]

Domestically it's a good league

[neat phoenix]

What happen with fcsb?

[fierce locust]

They didn't lose to pendershit

[balmy torrent]

The gks must've used ultis

[neat phoenix]

Thats false shit he didnt r a p e anyone

[fierce locust]

He did

[spiral sky]

1.86

[spiral sky]

He did

[fierce locust]

Put him in jail

[balmy torrent]

oh bro I am 1.81 I don't look that tall

[neat phoenix]

I mean we at least always had 2 teams in the groups when we qualed it was fcsb and cfr in general

[fierce locust]

That's above average

[neat phoenix]

But cfr did go far some years ago they passed the groups in 1st place then passed celtic with an insane comeback then they got eliminated by idk who

[balmy torrent]

Ik it is just that from distance I am not looking tall

anyways

[fierce locust]

ASTRA 😍🇪🇺⚪

[neat phoenix]

Yea astra was good too

Until they didnt have money

Now they dont exist anymore

[fierce locust]

That's y I became metaloglobus fan

No more astra 😿😿😿

I'm waiting for 2030 when FC Astra fights with CS Astra on who's the real astra

[neat phoenix]

They have no one to give them money owner would not sell the club even tho he was in jail, now he got out but isnt allowed to spend money for a period or some shit but everything is down no stadium no players no one left just the name its left they are in 4th league the worse one

[neat phoenix]

The only team u like from romania? Or u like more teams?😂

[fierce locust]

In Romania

[neat phoenix]

Yea

Romanian ones

[fierce locust]

They'll get 3 promotion in 3 years

[neat phoenix]

They need to be created all over again first

Then we see

But u only like metaloglobus and astra from whole romania ? @fierce locust 😂

Not even 1 team from 1st league

[fierce locust]

Astra was first league

[uneven crystal]

Petrolul☝️☝️

[neat phoenix]

Yea it was

[neat phoenix]

Not a bad choice

Everyone respects them rhey are an old team

[fierce locust]

Petrolul played in same city as astra

[neat phoenix]

Too bad they never make it to play offs💀

[uneven crystal]

i just mentioned them cause we played a friendly game vs them a month ago😭

[neat phoenix]

Yea it was astra Ploiești then they relocated to Giurgiu now only petrolul is left in ploiesti

[neat phoenix]

💀 lol petrolul played who?

And how much did petrolul lose

At what score

[rancid loom]

Wait what happened to klaksvik

They are in the conference league right they lost against sheriff

[neat phoenix]

They are in conference groups

[neat phoenix]

Yes

[uneven crystal]

panathinaikos

[neat phoenix]

I see and u beat them right?

[uneven crystal]

ended 2-0 iirc

[neat phoenix]

Petrolul is pure shit compare to u

[neat phoenix]

Oh ok

[uneven crystal]

we did but I'm not sure ab the score

but i think it was 2-0

[fierce locust]

Laszlo Boloni

[uneven crystal]

💀💀💀

No

Boloni ball..

[quick shuttle]

Today we are seeing again our "luck" in europe.

[fierce locust]

Yes

[fierce locust]

Boloni W

Bro brought the first star to Liege

[uneven crystal]

where the fuck did my gif go

[uneven crystal]

Bro made me wonder my life choices in quarantine football

[neat phoenix]

W coach and player

[quick shuttle]

I'm sure that they will put PAOK with Dinamo Zagreb and Besiktas. Panathinaikos with Marseille (again), AEK will have the strongest from each pot. And for us the weakest team will be... the Cypriots, something I want to avoid

[neat phoenix]

Now he trains Metz they promoted under him

[uneven crystal]

yeah W

[fierce locust]

Common Metz W

[uneven crystal]

Zagreb is in conference??

[neat phoenix]

Fr now they play in ligue 1

[quick shuttle]

Yes, Sparta Prague sent them to Conference

[fierce locust]

Metz in ligue 2 makes no sense

[neat phoenix]

But guys I think its still cursed to see lens in ucl💀

[uneven crystal]

NAHH THEY ACTUALLY BOTTLED💀💀💀

[neat phoenix]

Fr metz in ligue 1 is a w

[uneven crystal]

Zagreb cest finito

[fierce locust]

I hope lens gets grouped with 0pts and -30 GD

[neat phoenix]

I have nothing against them I just dont like french

Teams

[fierce locust]

I HATE lens

Rare Time I wanted PSG to win

[neat phoenix]

I only like lyon from france

[fierce locust]

Astra > Lyon

[quick shuttle]

Also, let's avoid PAOK vs Fenerbahce. I prefer Eintracht a thousand times

[neat phoenix]

😂😂💀

[uneven crystal]

this relegation battle🔥🔥🔥

wait that Georgian guy from Metz left?

[fierce locust]

Lens are relegating 😹🙏😂

[neat phoenix]

DONT SHOW THIS🔥🔥

Lyon too good

[fierce locust]

Monaco bezting Lens back to ligue 2

[rancid loom]

That's crazy

[uneven crystal]

Douglas Augusto went from PAOK to ligue 1 relegation fodder🗣️🔥💯

[rancid loom]

Lens are getting last in their group

And so are psg

[fierce locust]

Clermont foot and lens 😠😠

[neat phoenix]

Who is lens with

In ucl

[fierce locust]

Psv

[uneven crystal]

arsenal sevilla psv

[rancid loom]

Sevilla arsenal and psv

Lens are getting last place

[fierce locust]

De jong masterclass in Bollaert we will be there

[uneven crystal]

Sevilla probs gonna try to finish 3rd again so they could play uel

[neat phoenix]

1.arsenal
2.sevilla
3.lens(almost gets second)
4.psv thats my bet also de Jong cant carry a whole team

Psv getting grouped I think

[uneven crystal]

Sevilla sold Bounou right

[fierce locust]

Arsenal 18pts
PSV 10pts
Sevilla 7pts
Lens 0

[uneven crystal]

who's their goalie now

[neat phoenix]

Really?

[uneven crystal]

yh he went Al Hilal

[neat phoenix]

Ok then Sevilla 3rd and lens second

[rancid loom]

I'm gonna say the same but arsenal suck and probably are gonna lose the group and get 2nd place

[neat phoenix]

He wanted that cash

[red sparrow]

sevilla is dedicated to finish 3rd for uel

[fierce locust]

Lens sold Fofana and openda 😹😹😹

[neat phoenix]

And play with ronny

[uneven crystal]

wouldn't underestimate psv icl

[neat phoenix]

Yea

[uneven crystal]

they're actually a solid team

[neat phoenix]

I dont, they are good but I dont think they are over lens or sevilla

[red sparrow]

even if sevilla qualifies, they stand no chance in r16

[uneven crystal]

Lens got that Montpellier striker as an openda replacement

[neat phoenix]

I still think they get grouped

[uneven crystal]

I see I see

[fierce locust]

Want arsenal to beat lens so that they shut up about beating them 130 years ago

[rancid loom]

Sevilla are dropping to uel

Psv are going through

It's a pretty tough group I think

[neat phoenix]

Arsenal with max points 100%

[marsh nymph]

My uel prediction

[neat phoenix]

U think psv second?

[uneven crystal]

aint praying on anything but a braga 4th place finish

🙌🙌🙌

[neat phoenix]

Ayyy why u bully greek teams like that

[uneven crystal]

dfkm

LOOK AT THIS

this is random group generator

[rancid loom]

Yes

[fierce locust]

Bahahah Servette welcome back ⚔️⚔️

[neat phoenix]

Aek 2nd or 3rd and pana 3rd 100%

[rancid loom]

Alright, to be honest aek could dorp down to conference league in a group like that

And I'm not complaining

[neat phoenix]

If groups would look like that ofc.

[uneven crystal]

Olympiacos vs Leverkusen and Brighton

[rancid loom]

It's possible to have a fully Greek semi final like this tbh

[uneven crystal]

Draws are in like 1:30 hours

[rancid loom]

Conference semi final

[neat phoenix]

Cant it be a final?

where u guys getting these generators? Of groups

[rancid loom]

It sure will. 2 Greek teams in aeks stadium

[uneven crystal]

oh yeah uecl groups can be done as well

brb

[rancid loom]

That's a toppable group from ludogorets

[neat phoenix]

Imagine aek in their own staidum finalists

[quick shuttle]

https://draw.inker.one/#/el/gs/2023

[fierce locust]

It sure won't. Brugge Lille final ❤️❤️

[neat phoenix]

Thanks

[rancid loom]

What would realistically happen if lille faced paok, lille 2-1 paok, paok 3-0 lille 4-2 on agg

[marsh nymph]

My uecl prediction

[fierce locust]

Paok 3-0 lmfa keep on dreaming

[marsh nymph]

Group G lmao

[rancid loom]

😂Don't have to they've won every single game with at least 3 goal difference

[fierce locust]

Sure and they can't beat OM

[rancid loom]

And these are fairly big teams

[uneven crystal]

Yeah Paok got a Mickey mouse group

[rancid loom]

That was 2 seasons ago and I'm sure they can right now

[fierce locust]

Brugge smoking paok

[rancid loom]

4-0 in Greece 💯💯🔥

[fierce locust]

Delusional

[rancid loom]

Prugge sucks

[neat phoenix]

Why is it dark mode💀

[fierce locust]

Sure and where's Paok UCL round of 16

[marsh nymph]

Roma Olympiacos is cooking

[fierce locust]

Bros being delusional after beating hearts lmao

[neat phoenix]

Fr insane game

[rancid loom]

Where's brugges ucl final? 😂

[fierce locust]

Brugge has a UCL final you dumbass

Learn football then talk

Peok doesnt

Cry abt it

[rancid loom]

I said the same after they beat hajduk 3-0 in Greece and beitar 1-4 away

[uneven crystal]

where's paok ucl appearances in general tbh

[rancid loom]

They do? 😭

[fierce locust]

Alessandro's you've been cringe I advise you not to talk

[rancid loom]

They don't they stay around uel sand conference

[fierce locust]

Paok not top 3 in greece

[uneven crystal]

yeah

[rancid loom]

Yep so what

They turn into Manchester city at home

[fierce locust]

Before saying other clubs sucks you should look at yourself

[uneven crystal]

not in Superleague

[rancid loom]

Yea but in Europe they always go all out

[fierce locust]

They lost to Levski or whatever

[marsh nymph]

My uel death group is group E
My uecl death group is group G

[rancid loom]

My club is olympiacos bro

I'm just defending paok because they are from my city

[fierce locust]

Better than paok

[rancid loom]

Yep

That's true

[fierce locust]

Bros thessalonikian and supports olympiakos

[rancid loom]

Isn't it thessalonian

Like the bible thing

Thessalonians

[fierce locust]

Idk o didn't read it

[marsh nymph]

@fierce locust Lille vs Fiorentina imagine

[fierce locust]

Prefer not to imagine

[neat phoenix]

Do u guys have conference draw simulator too?

I tried the uel one already

[rancid loom]

Lille barely beat a small Croatian club

[uneven crystal]

ye its available now since the matches finished

[rancid loom]

Lille are not doing shit this tournament

[marsh nymph]

Yesnl

https://draw.inker.one/#/ecl/gs/2023

@alexflorin._.

[neat phoenix]

Ty

[fierce locust]

Better than hearts and beitar combined

You don't realize you got easiest opponent of the playoffs

[rancid loom]

Yea but play like hajduk 😂

[fierce locust]

Levski

[rancid loom]

I'd never support anybody form France in Europe except marseille

[rancid loom]

Levski the team that drew to eintracht frankfurt

[last bronze]

Europa league draw today come on

[rancid loom]

It's in an hour and 20 minutes

[fierce locust]

Good thing we smoked Marseille at home 😹😹😹

[marsh nymph]

Where are group G and H

[rancid loom]

Pana smoking that marseille pack too

[neat phoenix]

Thats what im saying it didnt give them💀💀

[rancid loom]

Paok scored a bicycle kick yesterday

Wait what

[marsh nymph]

It bugged out, you should try again

[neat phoenix]

Ok

[rancid loom]

That's the weirdest bycicle kick ever

[last bronze]

give us Lask USG and Toulouse

[fierce locust]

Agreed USG can do 2nd

[rancid loom]

They also scored a free kick

Kinda

Very close

Still a free kick though

[neat phoenix]

Thats the good one now

[marsh nymph]

Ki getting slaughtered

[neat phoenix]

Fr

[rancid loom]

I hope Ferencvaros doesn't get a group like this

[neat phoenix]

Group A and group G interestinf

[fierce locust]

W draw

[neat phoenix]

I want them grouped

[rancid loom]

I know

You hate everything Hungary

[neat phoenix]

😂

[fierce locust]

Pepsi hungariak

Hungarian

[neat phoenix]

Yea I do its something I will forevwr do

[marsh nymph]

If ferenc get Fiorentina or villa they kinda screwed

[rancid loom]

I've never hated Romania before

Never ever, never got around to it

I like the league en sheit

[neat phoenix]

We always roast them every game in romania we come with romanian flags to every game but in european games I support them

[rancid loom]

Sepsi put a fight against bodo

[neat phoenix]

Yea kinda

[rancid loom]

Yes and i don't like that

I want them out of the group

[neat phoenix]

It was a remarcable fight

Next year maybe they are in groups

[marsh nymph]

They need got por 3 and 4 picks and they're easily second imo

Unless they choke

[rancid loom]

They have a chance against fiorentina but not against villa

Maybe a lucky draw against villa at home but that's about it

[marsh nymph]

If Fiorentina employ Nzola yeah they have a chance

[neat phoenix]

Its nice of u that u dont hate it at all, I dont like hungary gouverment not the people

[marsh nymph]

[rancid loom]

What

[neat phoenix]

He say sepsi has hunagian fans

[rancid loom]

Let's hope they get an easy group

[rancid loom]

Why

[fierce locust]

Because it's true

[neat phoenix]

Because Sf Gheorghe their town has 70% hungarians in it, there live all the hungarian immigrants

[rancid loom]

Why do they have Hungarian fans

I prefer fcsb

[marsh nymph]

Ferencvaros
Fiorentina
Olimpija
Breidablik

Easiest group for fiorentina

[rancid loom]

Oh

[rancid loom]

Ferencvaros getting out of that group

[fierce locust]

Because Hungary finances foreign clubs like pepsi Osijek and dac

[rancid loom]

I have a breidablik scarf so I was happy that they beat struga

[neat phoenix]

Cant it be easier for Fiorentina if they had olimpija beidbalik and ki?

[fierce locust]

I was just happy of Struga losing

[rancid loom]

Don't they do that with leipzig too?

Leipzig got an easy group

It's gonna be an easy 2nd place for them

[marsh nymph]

Breidablik and ki are both pot 4

[neat phoenix]

Didnt know that

[marsh nymph]

Pot 1 is menacing only decent ones are ferenc and gent

The rest are nightmarish

[fierce locust]

I believe olimpija are better than Zorya

[neat phoenix]

Pot 1 is something else fr

[indigo dirge]

The POTs for UEL and UECL, top 2 are UEL bottom 2 UECL

[marsh nymph]

Uecl is becoming better each year tbh

[rancid loom]

Maybe

Zorya are Ukrainian right

Question

Do you think antwerp is better than shakhtar

[fierce locust]

Alashkert got into pot 3 with 0 European experience I remember

[fierce locust]

Antwerp are shit and shakhtar are overated

[marsh nymph]

Rn no

However shakhtar kinda lost its quality over the years

[rancid loom]

Yea I think shakhtar will finish above antwerp

[rancid loom]

They're still decent

[neat phoenix]

True its gonna get more interesting

[fierce locust]

Shakhtar undeservedly won Vs Rennes (like rly undeserved) and got humiliated by Feyenoord 7-0

[marsh nymph]

I still remember the first edition being very random

[neat phoenix]

Yea it was quite bad but it got better

[fierce locust]

Their main league opponents lost UCL R2, UEL R3 and UECL playoffs in a row

[marsh nymph]

Social media gonna be crazy if Fenerbahce vs PAOK happens

[neat phoenix]

Least nationalist turkish man

[fierce locust]

Ukraine lost every of its qualifiers except dynamo advancing one round

[rancid loom]

Yea it would be a fun match up

[rancid loom]

Did dinamo get knocked out of Europe

[fierce locust]

Yes

[rancid loom]

Let's go

[neat phoenix]

Yea by besiktas

[rancid loom]

That's what they get for beating aris (I don't fucking care about aris)

[rancid loom]

Good

[neat phoenix]

Thats a W because I dont like ukranian teams I like them only because they have romanian coach, their coach is Mircea Lucescu the dad of paok coach @rancid loom 😂

[uneven crystal]

aris would've got knocked out by besiktas if they had beaten Dinamo

[neat phoenix]

Aris isnt in any competition right

[fierce locust]

Aris are washed as usual

[rancid loom]

Aris are the only team from Greece to not participate in the group stages this season

[rancid loom]

For real

Serial bottlers

Bottled a 0-2 lead against dinamo Kiev

[neat phoenix]

Fucked up the penalties too

That match was at rapid stadium in bucharest which is cursed af

Besiktas went there too

[rancid loom]

That's honestly crazy

Why though

They can't play in Kiev now?

[neat phoenix]

No one plays in ukraine because no internațional team wants to go to a country thats in a warzone

The ukranian teams train and play in romania or poland

All of them

[rancid loom]

Oh

[neat phoenix]

They dont wanna risk being in ukraine

[rancid loom]

So they basically don't have home games

[uneven crystal]

They're honestly such a weird team

they've got a pattern for every year

[rancid loom]

Even with that I think that shakhtar will finish above twerps

[neat phoenix]

No, only in neutral countries

Kyev played in romania and shaktar is in warsaw

[rancid loom]

Yea but I mean they practically dont have their own stadium right now

[neat phoenix]

Yea not an official stadium for anyone

[uneven crystal]

Going for the league > Fuck up in the first couple of games making them focus on the cup > Get knocked out of the cup by some sunday league team > Aim to do well in the european qualifiers > Lose every match possible > Repeat

[rancid loom]

Draws in an hour

[neat phoenix]

Yea I changed the time when I eat so I can see that shi

[neat phoenix]

Also lets hope greek teams get easy

Teams

[rancid loom]

We need them to get 3rd in the groups bro

We want

Conference league

[neat phoenix]

For an european trophy

Idk if all 3 will fall to conference tho

Aek surely wants that

But pana and olympiacos I dont think so

[rancid loom]

Aek is gonna try to get 3fd

[rancid loom]

Idk what they will do

If they drop tk conference I'm not complaining

[neat phoenix]

Yea thats what im saying

[neat phoenix]

Can they play paok? If they fall to conference

Surely paok passes groups

[rancid loom]

Yes but from the quarter finals and onwards

[neat phoenix]

Ok

[heavy sphinx]

Good luck to all the teams in the draw

[rancid loom]

Half an hour left

[neat phoenix]

Is the draw at tv for u alessandros?

Ur in Bulgaria right?

Because I dont think its at tv in romania I think I will have to look at it on my phone and have a fucking delay

[rancid loom]

I don't know

Yesterday as you know I think I've told you

I was at a wedding

I watched the draw on Uefa.com

They stream it there

I watched it on my phone

[mossy marten]

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1697520342540144754?s=20

His own fans were throwing a bottle to his head some weeks ago
And now he signed for Utd
World is interesting

Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano)

Official, confirmed. Altay Bayindir has joined Manchester United on a contract running until June 2027, with the option of a further year 🔴🇹🇷 #MUFC

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Twitter · Sep 1, 2023, 8:02 AM

[neat phoenix]

Well I did the same because I was watching sepsi

It wasnt at tv

And farul too

All the tv channels had matches already

[rancid loom]

Yaremchuk to valencia

[rancid loom]

Oh ok

[neat phoenix]

But today it should be at tv hopefully

[rancid loom]

I'm gonna watch it on my phone

Probably

[neat phoenix]

I will do the same if I dont find at tv

[lilac rose]

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/1697520114004869613?s=20

Manchester United (@ManUtd)

Our GK Union: ➕1️⃣

Welcome to United, @AltayBayindir_1! 🇹🇷🧤

#MUFC

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United announced Altay

Ali Koç has said in his farewell video that Altay had the Manchester united offer on the table since January

But he extended the contract to make the club money from the transfer

He knew full well that he had to go

No idea how we managed to sell this dude to the fucking red Devils and that for a profit

But oh well, hope he recollects himself there

[heavy sphinx]

PANATHINAIKOS ☘️💦🙏

[rancid loom]

IT STARTED

THE DRAW STARTEDDD

[quick shuttle]

Sorry to disturb the football atmosphere, but Evros keeps burning for 14th consecutive day. They destroyed fully Dadia's forest, one of the biggest natural treasures of Greece.

Now the fires are approaching Soufli

[neat phoenix]

I almost forgot abt it

[rancid loom]

They are talking about random shit barely related to the europa league right now

It hasn't even started

[last bronze]

hurry up fs

[rancid loom]

IT'S STARTING THE ACTUAL DRAW

[neat phoenix]

Yea ik

[neat phoenix]

Im watching it on my pc

And I talk here from my phone

[rancid loom]

Same

I'm home right now so I'm watching it on my pc

Too

[neat phoenix]

Its nice to watch on pc nicer experience 😂

Almost like tv

[rancid loom]

Way better than on your phone in a crowded wedding

[simple crater]

I watch everything on my pc

[neat phoenix]

No doubt about it

Its starting rn I think

They finally finished with the talking

[hidden valley]

Cant wait for uecl draw to see who Varul gets

[rancid loom]

West ham

Group a

[neat phoenix]

I got flashbacks

With west ham

Last season

Fcsb got cooked by them

[rancid loom]

Ajax

[neat phoenix]

Ajax

[neat phoenix]

Same time 😂 we said

[vale trail]

Vinicius Jr Lowkey overrated I’m taking Ansu Fati over him, atleast Ansu got a international trophy

[naive ocean]

Rangers

[neat phoenix]

Ranger

[rancid loom]

Rangers

[naive ocean]

haha

[rancid loom]

Yep

[naive ocean]

Liverpool

[rancid loom]

Liverpool

[neat phoenix]

Liverpool💀

Whoever gets them is dead

[vale trail]

Liverpool won’t win Europa league

[rancid loom]

Liverpool might not win it actually

[naive ocean]

Villarreal

[rancid loom]

Villareal

[neat phoenix]

Villareal

[vale trail]

Barcelona Will

[rancid loom]

You're not getting grouped my guy

[neat phoenix]

They are one of the favourite

[rancid loom]

Did you see your group

[naive ocean]

Atalanta

[rancid loom]

You got an easy group

[rancid loom]

Yea

Atalanta

[vale trail]

Damn

[naive ocean]

Imagine Barca finishing 3rd with that group

[neat phoenix]

U arent finishing 3rd to win europa u guys are 4th

[vale trail]

Well we gonna lose in round of 16

[neat phoenix]

Jk

[naive ocean]

AS Roma

[neat phoenix]

Ass roma

[rancid loom]

Roma

[neat phoenix]

As

[rancid loom]

Small team

[neat phoenix]

Not really

Could do good

[naive ocean]

Leverkusen

[rancid loom]

Bayer leverkusen

I want leverkusen to win it

[neat phoenix]

Leverkusen

[neat phoenix]

Would be cool

[naive ocean]

As Roma

[neat phoenix]

I like leverkusen

[spiral sky]

Oh no

[neat phoenix]

Olympiacos is here

[rancid loom]

Me too because they are German

Yea olympiacos is here

Lmao

No Liverpool please

Olympiacos

[neat phoenix]

OOOOH

[rancid loom]

First team up 😭

[spiral sky]

Snh

Smh

[rancid loom]

With West ham

[spiral sky]

First group?

[rancid loom]

Not that bad

[rancid loom]

Yes

[neat phoenix]

U guys with west ham

[rancid loom]

Marseille

[vale trail]

Group F💀💀💀

[neat phoenix]

Would have been the best for Olympiacos to be with ranger

[rancid loom]

Ajax

[vale trail]

Milan💀

[neat phoenix]

Ajax and marseille getting interesting

[spiral sky]

I am watching it

[vale trail]

PSG💀

[spiral sky]

Not bad tbf

[rancid loom]

Real bets

[neat phoenix]

Betis

[rancid loom]

Betis

[vale trail]

Dortmund💀

[quick shuttle]

West Ham vs Olympiacos!

[vale trail]

Newcastle💀

[rancid loom]

With rangers

They got it easy

[neat phoenix]

Betis with rangers thats the weakest group so far

[vale trail]

Who do u guys reckon will top group F?!?

[rancid loom]

Dortmund in a surprise

Sporting

Group d

With atalanta

[spiral sky]

Obviously we got a prem team

[neat phoenix]

Sporting with atalanta interesting

[spiral sky]

Smh

[rancid loom]

Lask

Lask with Liverpool

[neat phoenix]

Who tf is lask💀

[last bronze]

Betis will be a tough game

[rancid loom]

Liverpool got it easy

[neat phoenix]

Yea with liverpool

[vale trail]

I reckon Group F Will be

1. Milan
2. PSG
3. NewCastle
4. Dortmund

[neat phoenix]

Yea liverpool has easy

[rancid loom]

Milan isn't topping the group

Rennes

[neat phoenix]

Rennes with villareal

[rancid loom]

With villareal

Slavia praha

With roma

[neat phoenix]

Praha vs ass roma gonna be interesting

[rancid loom]

And qarabag

With H

[neat phoenix]

Qarabag with leverkusen goddamn

[rancid loom]

Leverkusen will mangle them

[neat phoenix]

Interesting

[neat phoenix]

True

@balmy torrent good luck💀

[rancid loom]

Freiburg

Please easy group

Freiburg

Oh hell no

Freiburg with olympiacos

[naive ocean]

Sheriff Tiraspol to win the Conference League

[rancid loom]

Brighton

[naive ocean]

BRIGHTON

[neat phoenix]

Freiburg with west ham and Olympiacos u guys got it tough💀💀

[balmy torrent]

Oh no Brighton

[rancid loom]

This is a group olympiacos should be able tog et 3rd

[neat phoenix]

BRIGHTON GONNA COOK EVERYONE THERE

[balmy torrent]

group of death

[quick shuttle]

Not again Freiburg!

[vale trail]

What are your guys Group F UCL predictions?

[rancid loom]

Sparta praha

Rusg

Gill oise

[neat phoenix]

I wanna see who sheriff gets they are moldova they are brothers of România I want them to get easy group

[rancid loom]

Haifa

[spiral sky]

It should had been us

[neat phoenix]

Macabi with the tough group

[spiral sky]

I am done with this group

[neat phoenix]

Who is Saint gilloise with?

[spiral sky]

Already

[rancid loom]

Sturm graz

[naive ocean]

Vperyod Sheriff. Come on Transnistrians

[rancid loom]

Sheriff

I want them to get an easy group

[naive ocean]

Tough group

[rancid loom]

Oh

[naive ocean]

But I hope they finish 3rd

[neat phoenix]

Sheriff with roma💀💀

[rancid loom]

That's bad

[neat phoenix]

Moldovan brothers gonna have tough time

[rancid loom]

Molde

[quick shuttle]

No AEK or Panathinaikos on group B!

[rancid loom]

Please no Greek in group B

[neat phoenix]

Molde could pass this actually

[fierce locust]

Who's with usg and Rennes ?

[neat phoenix]

If u guys are in b or c ur dead

[rancid loom]

Let's hope we aren't

[neat phoenix]

Hoping for that too

[rancid loom]

Back a topola

LET'S GO

[neat phoenix]

Topola gonna end with 0 points

[fierce locust]

What

[rancid loom]

AT LEAST 3RD PLACE FOR OLYMPIACOS

[neat phoenix]

Olympiacos has 3rd spot at least

[neat phoenix]

Ye

OH NAAAAAG

[fierce locust]

Backa eliminated

[neat phoenix]

No wayyy

[simple crater]

AEK 😂

[neat phoenix]

Aek IN B?💀💀

[rancid loom]

Bruh aek are in the group of death

[smoky nest]

aek with us W

[fierce locust]

AEK with ?

[rancid loom]

No way

[mossy marten]

Backa Topola is the leader in serbian league

[spiral sky]

PWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[rancid loom]

Aris

[smoky nest]

B

[rancid loom]

They're done

[quick shuttle]

AEK in B. OPAP Arena is your power

[neat phoenix]

Naaaah aek gonna lose💀

[fierce locust]

Who's with AEK and Om

[neat phoenix]

Tough to even get 4th

[rancid loom]

Rakow

[neat phoenix]

Aek om Ajax and brighton

[rancid loom]

Imagine they finish 3rd

Over whoever

[last bronze]

Betis Sparta Limassol we can take second

[rancid loom]

Toulouse

[neat phoenix]

U guys got it easy

[rancid loom]

Panathinaikos

[neat phoenix]

With sparta and limassol

[fierce locust]

Bruhh type the whole groups plsss

[rancid loom]

Group f

[neat phoenix]

PANA HAS CHANCES

[rancid loom]

This is a good group

It's only haifa

It's a good group for pana

[simple crater]

ok could have been worse

[quick shuttle]

Panathinaikos poly kalo group

[rancid loom]

At least 3rd place

[mossy marten]

Villareal
Rennes
Haifa
Panathinaikos

[spiral sky]

Obviously they are the ones to get haifa

SMH

[rancid loom]

Not the worst

[fierce locust]

Rennes top 2

[spiral sky]

It should had been us

[neat phoenix]

Pana 3rd or 2nd with some luck

[quick shuttle]

Well. Olympiacos 2nd, AEK 3rd and Panathinaikos 2nd

[mossy marten]

Not the best either

[rancid loom]

Let's hope

Hacken group H

[balmy torrent]

This uel gonna be entertaining

[simple crater]

Nordic Battle in group H

[fierce locust]

Who's with USG ??

[rancid loom]

Yea aek is done

[molten cloud]

Lask
Toulouse
Liverpool

[rancid loom]

Aek is absolutely down

[molten cloud]

@fierce locust

[fierce locust]

Toulouse will get cooked

[quick shuttle]

Panathinaikos and AEK have their stadiums as power. Fans, get all the tickets.

[uneven crystal]

Decent group

[fierce locust]

Let's ignore Liverpool and pretend the draw is good

[rancid loom]

Aek will beat marseille twice

Just because they are Greek

[neat phoenix]

Aek got tough group

[brave bridge]

Greek teams got the hardest draws ffs

[balmy torrent]

do you think Brighton can go through

[neat phoenix]

Lets hope so

[rancid loom]

Easy at least 3rd for olympiacos

[winged minnow]

Groups?

[spiral sky]

Could had been much worse

[rancid loom]

Maybe

[mossy marten]

Aek's group is UCL quality

[neat phoenix]

U saw rhe grouos?

[marsh nymph]

Group B is insane

[winged minnow]

No

[brave bridge]

Fr this group is tough

[uneven crystal]

Frfr

[rancid loom]

Aek had to be in the group of death

[uneven crystal]

Ajax
Brighton
Aek
Marseille

[rancid loom]

If they pull off a 3rd place here

That would be fucking awesome

[nocturne barn]

https://www.youtube.com/@7TLFootball

[fierce locust]

USG 🟡🔵

[rancid loom]

Yk I would like this tbh

[brave bridge]

They won't let's be honest with ourselves

[rancid loom]

They a have chances against everyone but Brighton

[simple crater]

well they either learn to swim or drown

[rancid loom]

It's possible

[balmy torrent]

what a trip

[nocturne barn]

https://www.youtube.com/@7TLFootball

[brave bridge]

They don't with Ajax fym

[rancid loom]

They do

[simple crater]

but they need to buy defense