la-liga

[rugged pecan]

ya fs dudes hella smooth on the ball

im pretty sure new castle was willing to buy him for like 60 mil

[frank robin]

lmao

in the winter, newcastle went for suarez, oblak and trippier

and their linked to carrasco and kondo

[pale geode]

They got Bruno instead

Great pick up

[compact siren]

https://youtube.com/shorts/XXEYXFElpvc?feature=share

[livid siren]

Who do you guys think deserve the best XI of la liga this season?

[still leaf]

https://getfootballnewsspain.com/la-liga-preview-barcelona-vs-cadiz/

[frank robin]

lol

[frank robin]

best coach in history

[worldly beacon]

Rma

[worldly beacon]

Bruh

[frank robin]

ikr

not even close

[compact siren]

Maybe not the best, but he's really good.

[frank robin]

yes

best coach in history of atleti

[livid siren]

Nah like all the best players

U think it should be all real?

[frank robin]

benzema and vini 100%

modric

yes

kroos

courtios

[livid siren]

Nah not Kroos

[frank robin]

who is better?

[livid siren]

There’s been better midfielders than Kroos, he’s had better seasons

I feel like frenkie has been better than Kroos

Soler also has been great

[frank robin]

not at all

parejo and soler ig

[livid siren]

Araujo and Alba are locked tho imo

What about the other cb and rb?

[frank robin]

alaba

and

[livid siren]

Carvajal or Jesus navas?

[frank robin]

navas

carvajal hasnt been too good

[livid siren]

And alaba, Éder or Kounde

Yeh I think navas too

[frank robin]

alaba or kounde

idk which

[livid siren]

Same

[frank robin]

gk is defo courtios

[livid siren]

Who should get the rw spot tho?

[frank robin]

striker benzema, LW vini

idk rw

correa?

[livid siren]

Yeah, Bono is close but it’s gotta be courtois

Can vini play on the right?

[frank robin]

not really

[livid siren]

Cuz Juanmi has been crazy but he’s also on the left

[frank robin]

yh

[livid siren]

Muniain has also been good

[frank robin]

not good enough imo

correa for RW imo

[livid siren]

Yeah, I agree, not good enough for best XI but he’s been solid

What about Dembele for rw?

[frank robin]

nah, only good last few games

not whole szn

[livid siren]

True

Same reason I don’t think Pedri makes it

If he didn’t get injured and played all the remaining games I feel like Pedri would definitely be in

Casemiro or busquets?

As a Barça fan busquets has been amazing, but I also know Casemiro has been fantastic

[dusky stream]

Ooh okay

[livid siren]

So far we’ve nailed down this

[dusky stream]

Okay

[livid siren]

Vini - benzema - ?
Modric - ? - ?
Alba - Araujo - ? - Navas
Courtois

[dusky stream]

Mmm

Kroos > Modric

[livid siren]

U think?

[dusky stream]

and Kroos Frenkie

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/918571918905462867/965580782762594375/radar_Frenkie_de_Jong_Toni_Kroos_2021-2022.png

These are only league stats above and Kroos is clear of Frenkie

[livid siren]

This season I feel like modric has been better than Kroos

[dusky stream]

Nah, Modric had one of his serious down years

[livid siren]

Hmm maybe

[dusky stream]

It’s just that some good performances in UCL inflated his season’s perceptions

[livid siren]

Yeah probably

Does Pedri make it tho that’s the question

He’s probably played too little

But he’s been incredible when he has played

[dusky stream]

Pedri has been better than Modric by a bit IMO

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/918571918905462867/965581515339730966/radar_Pedri_Luka_Modric_2021-2022.png

[dusky stream]

This looks outdated

[livid siren]

I agree, he’s been better

[dusky stream]

But I’ll have Modric

[livid siren]

Yeah cuz of play time

[dusky stream]

As Pedri being slightly better isn’t enough to forget that he played less than 10 games worthy of league minutes

[livid siren]

The other cm tho, Kroos, frenkie, Soler or Parejo?

[livid siren]

True

And also cdm, Casemiro or busquets?

[dusky stream]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/918571918905462867/965582181219074078/radar_Sergio_Busquets_Casemiro_2021-2022.png

[livid siren]

Busquets has been way better then

[dusky stream]

Busi is miles ahead on the ball

[livid siren]

Yeh

[dusky stream]

While Casemiro is a bit better defensively

I’ll have Busi in

[livid siren]

And Casemiro isn’t even that far in front on the defensive side

Yep I think so too

Btw what’s that website called?

[dusky stream]

It’s a bot that people in my own server developed

[livid siren]

Ah cool!

[dusky stream]

What’s the XI looking like now?

[livid siren]

Vini - Benzema - ?
Modric/Kroos - Busquets - Soler/Parejo
Alba - Araujo - ? - Navas
Courtois

Something like that

[frank robin]

yh

and imo

[frank robin]

swap out soler and parejo for fekir

and take kroos out for modric

[livid siren]

This is very close tho

[dusky stream]

It’s not

Kroos is far better in progression and attacking

While also being better defensively

Modric is just a better dribbler

[livid siren]

Eh true

Vini - benzema - ?
Kroos - Busquets - Modric/Parejo/Frenkie
Alba - Araujo - ? - Navas
Courtois

So that’s what we’re at now I think

[frank robin]

but but

outside foot pass

kroos could never

lmao

for the center backs

gimme a sec

[livid siren]

I think it’s Parejo in the second cm slot

[frank robin]

for the center back slot

[dusky stream]

I might give Badia or Maximiano the GK spot

[frank robin]

courtios has been far better

[dusky stream]

I wouldn’t really use defender radars

Not the most accurate

[livid siren]

Bono

[frank robin]

yh

also, no way kounde has more dribbles than alaba

lmao

[livid siren]

He’s good going forwards tho idk

[frank robin]

he is yh

[dusky stream]

Maximiano has been a far better shot stopper

[livid siren]

But no way it’s by that much

[frank robin]

yh

[dusky stream]

That dribbling stat is accurate

[frank robin]

alaba overrated af then

or kounde is just class

[dusky stream]

Dribbling isn’t important for CBs

[frank robin]

yh, ik

lol

its just that when you think of a good dribbling center back, most people think of alaba

[dusky stream]

I think of Matip

[livid siren]

The goalie graph makes no sense lol

[frank robin]

ooh

[frank robin]

lmao

[dusky stream]

I just mainly look at PSxG

Bring up Maximiano

[livid siren]

So it’s the same player

[frank robin]

so clear

[livid siren]

Hold on what does PSxG even mean lmao

[frank robin]

ikr

lmao

[dusky stream]

Courtois played more than Bounou

[frank robin]

can you bring up bono and oblak?

[dusky stream]

Oblak has been awful

[livid siren]

Oblak has been shocking

[frank robin]

ik

ik

no need to rub it in

[dusky stream]

https://statsbomb.com/articles/soccer/a-new-way-to-measure-keepers-shot-stopping-post-shot-expected-goals/

[balmy thicket]

eh

[frank robin]

tbf, he had a great game today

[livid siren]

YOOO WHAT

[dusky stream]

Atleti played yesterday?

[balmy thicket]

ye

[livid siren]

MANS PSXG IS ALMOST 0

[frank robin]

i live in australia

[balmy thicket]

they won

won

[livid siren]

They won 2-1 no?

[dusky stream]

Ah

[frank robin]

oh my lord

[balmy thicket]

ye

[frank robin]

yh, carrasco masterclass

[dusky stream]

No? It’s -0.27 per 90mins

[livid siren]

Haha holy shit

[frank robin]

lol

oblak is so bad

[livid siren]

I’m wondering what Ter Stegens is

[dusky stream]

Ter stegen has had a turn of form since Xavi took over

[frank robin]

which one is more shit

[livid siren]

Yep

[livid siren]

Oblak

At least atm

[dusky stream]

And recently his whole season actually turns out very slightly positive for PSxG

[livid siren]

Yep haha

[dusky stream]

It’s a good read @livid siren

[livid siren]

Ait lemme have a look

Nah man I ain’t got that much patience hahaha

That thing is so long

[dusky stream]

Basically it’s a measure of how likely a shot is to result in a goal after it has left the player’s foot

So a shot going wide will have a PSxG of 0.00

[livid siren]

But nah we’re looking too much into stats y’all, courtois helped real win the league so I feel like he should go between the sticks

[livid siren]

Aaaah gotchu

[dusky stream]

Yeah but if he wasn’t near the best in any aspect, then I wouldn’t put him in. I don’t really care for how good a player’s team was

[knotty yacht]

Fuck all xg shit

[livid siren]

So it’s like goal probability calculated with saves n stuff?

[dusky stream]

Yeah

[livid siren]

Gotchu

Hm idk

[dusky stream]

It’s pretty good tbh, I think it’s quite accurate

I’d have Maximiano

He’s top in La Liga for shot stopping

[livid siren]

Vini - benzema - ?
Kroos - Busquets - Modric/Parejo/Fekir
Alba - Araujo - ? - Navas
Courtois/Maximiano

So this is where we’re at

Yo for the second cb spot

What about that Garcia guy

[frank robin]

which one

what team

[livid siren]

For osasuna

[frank robin]

oh no

kounde clear

[livid siren]

I heard he’s been crazy

[dusky stream]

Yeah I might just have Kounde and Araujo

[frank robin]

he has been good

[dusky stream]

Dembele RW easily, there isn’t much debate I think

[frank robin]

wut

correa>

even tho he played striker

[livid siren]

Nah nvm, The graph says David garcia is t that good defensively

But he’s top of la liga in airial duels won

[charred wadi]

whats this

[frank robin]

TOTS

[livid siren]

La liga best XI this season

Aka tots

[charred wadi]

eh

[dusky stream]

I think we can take out Modric comfortably tbh

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/918571918905462867/965591888537223188/radar_Luka_Modric_Daniel_Parejo_2021-2022.png

[livid siren]

Team of the season

[charred wadi]

what has busquets done to deserve a tots lol

[frank robin]

agreed then

[charred wadi]

araujo as well

[livid siren]

Everything

What

[charred wadi]

nah you're just a barca fan

[livid siren]

Nah man ur tripping

[frank robin]

bruh, shush

[dusky stream]

Araujo has been sick this season tho

[frank robin]

allow it

[charred wadi]

nah not rlly

[dusky stream]

Wouldn’t use the defensive stats to judge CBs

[livid siren]

Still

[frank robin]

still, garcia hasnt been top 4 centerbacks this szn

[livid siren]

Look how incredible he’s been defensively

Araujo is easily top 5 center backs itw right now

[charred wadi]

and look where barca is rn 🤤

[livid siren]

We’re in next season

[charred wadi]

keyword: next

[livid siren]

With a team full of youth

[dusky stream]

For balance, I’d have Fekir > Parejo. Kroos already covers the passing progression

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/918571918905462867/965592600860057690/radar_Nabil_Fekir_Daniel_Parejo_2021-2022.png

[frank robin]

see, fekir has been great this szn

[dusky stream]

Yeah I know

[charred wadi]

midfield tots in la liga is modric casemiro pedri

👍

[dusky stream]

Nah Kroos > Modric

[livid siren]

Your starting midfield has an average age of 32.6

[charred wadi]

nah

[livid siren]

Pedri hasn’t played enough

[frank robin]

no

[charred wadi]

oK itS fRenKie gAvi anD gRanDpA bIScuitS

[dusky stream]

Who’s in agreement for Kroos Busi Fekir? Give a ✅

[frank robin]

✅

[dusky stream]

Did we mention Gavi or Frenkie?

[livid siren]

I looked at Gavi

[charred wadi]

lmfao y'all pressed asf

[frank robin]

we mentioned frenkie yh

[charred wadi]

you really think busi is getting a tots

embarrassing

[livid siren]

Well, look at the graph man

[frank robin]

not fifa m8

we talking irl

[charred wadi]

no fucking shit

[frank robin]

lol

[dusky stream]

Busquets is miles ahead on the ball while Casemiro is better at defending by not by enough to make up the difference

[livid siren]

No matter how strong Casemiro is makes no difference when busquets is literally the same or even better defensively and also a lot better on the ball and going forward

[dusky stream]

Yeah idk why he’s saying a TOTS, like it’s FIFA

[charred wadi]

LMFAO

MAN SAID BETTER GOING FORWARD

NAH

[livid siren]

What about Éder for the second cb?

[frank robin]

nah

[dusky stream]

Militao has been good but I’d have Kounde and Araujo ahead

[livid siren]

@charred wadi all the attacking stats are better for busquets

Ur biased rn

[dusky stream]

Dembele RW

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/918571918905462867/965594063036366848/radar_Ousmane_Dembele_None_2021-2022.png

[livid siren]

I think Dembele aswell

[charred wadi]

how am i biased

[livid siren]

Juanmi has been very good aswell but shame he’s on the left where vini already is

[charred wadi]

most people would choose casemiro because of his physical attributes rather than having a grandpa in the midfield

[livid siren]

Cuz u asked what Araujo has done to deserve tots when he’s literally top 5 cb’s itw rn

[dusky stream]

So IMO
Maximiano
Navas Kounde Araujo Alba
Fekir Busi Kroos
Dembele Benzema Vinicius

[frank robin]

compare to someone else, juanmi or someone

[livid siren]

^

[charred wadi]

you're the only one who said araujo is top 5 cb itw

i can name 5 better

[livid siren]

Okay go on

[dusky stream]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/918571918905462867/965594647034482739/radar_Ousmane_Dembele_Juanmi_2021-2022.png

It’s pretty much goals vs everything else

[frank robin]

oh my, thats unexpected

can you compare to correa?

or is that not possible

[charred wadi]

Ruben Dias, Virgil Van Dijk, David Alaba, Kounde, Matip, Kimpembe, Marquinhos, Rudiger

[dusky stream]

I’d have Dembele as an individual and for the system as Benzema and Vini score a lot too

[dusky stream]

Angel C?

Yeah I can

[frank robin]

yh

[charred wadi]

[livid siren]

No way on earth alaba, kounde, kimpembe, matip are better

[dusky stream]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/918571918905462867/965595066657816586/radar_Ousmane_Dembele_Angel_Correa_2021-2022.png

[charred wadi]

yes way

[dusky stream]

Just goals vs everything else

[livid siren]

How

[charred wadi]

i dont care what your graph says

all of them are better

"you're biased rn"

thats ironic

🤓

[dusky stream]

Are we not talking about a La Liga team of the season?

[charred wadi]

not atm

he said araujo was top 5 itw

[livid siren]

He is

[charred wadi]

i said i could name 5 more

but i named even more

[frank robin]

ah, i agree on dembele then

[livid siren]

Araujo has literally been better than dias

[charred wadi]

nah

idc what ur graph says

[livid siren]

Yes he has

[frank robin]

average real madrid fan:

[charred wadi]

hows that 4th place

[grave glen]

bro showing stats by FC Discordelona

[charred wadi]

🤫

[grave glen]

😂 😂 😂 😂

[livid siren]

It’s a bot

[dusky stream]

I wouldn’t really care for the defensive stats for CBs mate, as the system matters so much and Pep’s system is the best defensively in Europe

[grave glen]

real

[livid siren]

That’s true I guess

[charred wadi]

araujo cant even defend against german farmers

in europa league

lol

[dusky stream]

The bot just has the name on it

[frank robin]

the disrespect tho

[livid siren]

But fr, Araujo has definitely been the best defender in la liga

[charred wadi]

nah

[livid siren]

Wdym he literally did

[frank robin]

one of

top 3

[livid siren]

He saved us so many times

[charred wadi]

carvajal at cb is better than araujo

[livid siren]

Nah at this point ur just wrong man

[charred wadi]

[dusky stream]

Dude just stop trolling here

[livid siren]

Okay so, we’ve got this so far

[charred wadi]

🤫

who do u support irish

[livid siren]

Vini - Benzema - Dembele/Correa
Kroos - Busquets - Fekir
Alba - Araujo - Alaba/Kounde - Navas
Courtois/Maximiano

[charred wadi]

Courtois is the best gk itw

whys there a / to a granada keeper

doesnt make sense

[livid siren]

Didn’t know his first name was Manuel

[charred wadi]

should be courtois / bono instead in that case

💀

[livid siren]

Club ≠ Ability

[charred wadi]

no

[livid siren]

He’s got the most shots stopped in la liga

[charred wadi]

bono's goal keeping abilities are still clear

[livid siren]

Of course team also has to do with that stat

Courtois has a better defense in front of him so he doesn’t get as many shots to save

[charred wadi]

what are you implying

[livid siren]

But yeah, imo it’s still Courtois

Dembele or Correa tho?

[charred wadi]

dembele

[livid siren]

Yeah I think so too

[charred wadi]

lad was rlly good against madrid

even when barca lost 3-2

i thought he was real's biggest threat

[dusky stream]

Look at PSxG-GA +/-

https://fbref.com/en/comps/12/keepersadv/La-Liga-Stats

[charred wadi]

@livid siren what abt alex remiro

instead of maximiano

[dusky stream]

9th in La Liga for shot stopping

[livid siren]

Nah I don’t think so personally

The clean sheets are also cuz real Sociedad are very defensive

[charred wadi]

most clean sheets

well

not necessarily

they've been kinda mid

[dusky stream]

Clean sheets ≠ GK good

[charred wadi]

it was just a suggestion mr no club

[dusky stream]

mr no club?

[charred wadi]

did i stutter

[compact siren]

My Laliga team this season
Vini Benzema Dembele
Modric Gavi Kroos
Alba Alaba Kounde Navas
Courtois
Subs: Militão, Busquets, Fekir, Raul De Tomas and Maximiano
I put Militão on the bench because of yesterday's behavior :D Just kidding, Kounde over Militão because Kounde is better

[dusky stream]

I have no idea what you’re even trying to say bro

[dusky stream]

No DM?

[charred wadi]

gavi?

[livid siren]

Vini - Benzema - Dembele
Kroos - Busquets - Fekir
Alba - Araujo - Kounde - Navas
Courtois

Is this what we settled on?

[dusky stream]

I’d have a Maximiano but TC is fine

[compact siren]

Yes. Busquets might be better for that, but I don't think Gavi's bad choice

[wicked charm]

Is Twitter the best place to know about football and follow it ?

[charred wadi]

modric man

modric is better than kroos

kroos slows down the midfield

you dont notice kroos as much as you notice modric

[hasty hearth]

depends

but as primary source? no.

modric way better than kroos

lol

[knotty yacht]

Gavi wtf

Put trejo in

[hasty hearth]

not saying kroos is bad but modric the better player rn

he changes the pace of the game on a fast route

[hasty hearth]

dembele? iffy

[compact siren]

Dembele 101% deserved

[hasty hearth]

he has been good these past 2 3 weeks tho tbf

[compact siren]

Most assists in the whole Laliga

It says something.

[hasty hearth]

it does

[frank robin]

yh

[hasty hearth]

fekir is pretty good for betis.

[compact siren]

On top of that, he played only 14 games in league. Dembele is world class

He is Form of his life

[livid siren]

Maybe, If you can handle the trolls😂

[livid siren]

I also think modric I can’t lie

La liga best XI this season

Vini - Benzema - Dembele
Modric- Busquets - Fekir
Alba - Araujo - Kounde - Navas
Courtois

Is this final then?

[hasty hearth]

yea

good list

[livid siren]

Haha, we made it in the end😂

[still pagoda]

gavi ?

[livid siren]

What about the bench?

[worldly beacon]

Yes

[livid siren]

Juanmi, Aspas, Raul de Tomas, Guedes, Soler, Parejo, Alaba

For the bench

Idk

[whole basin]

Pedri playing basketball?

[fading ember]

For getting news ig yeah it’s good enough
In terms of discussions and opinions no, then it’s pretty trolly

[whole basin]

U can't choose gavi over pedri

Wtff

[compact siren]

Pedri played only 12 Laliga games

[whole basin]

Bruh

But he's better than gavi

Thays obvious

[livid siren]

If Pedri didn’t get injured and played the last matches of the season he would 100% be in the best XI

But since he’s only played 12 games I don’t think we can put him in

[whole basin]

Nd where araujo?

[livid siren]

He’s in

The one he wrote is his one

[whole basin]

Where is that?

[livid siren]

This is what Saf1saurus, Irish, pezz and I went with

[whole basin]

Aah ok

I was looking at the other kise

List*

[livid siren]

Ah gotchu

[whole basin]

I was looking at this one

[whole basin]

This is gud

[livid siren]

Feel free to make changes btw

[whole basin]

Yea sure

[livid siren]

If u lot lost yesterday there would be a small chance but since u won ur definitely winning it

Nah goal dif doesn’t matter in la liga

It’s who won vs eachother

So let’s say Madrid lost 3 games and Barça won all then we would be on equal points

But since Barça lost 2-1 and won 4-0 vs Madrid we would win

Haha dw

[grave glen]

no benzema

theres your answer

[livid siren]

U weren’t the only one to suffer from the 4 goals

Xavi is a 4 goal merchant

Xavi loves big teams I guess lol

[grave glen]

both psg and barca only perform against big teams

[livid siren]

I can’t wait for next season tbh

They have to keep kounde tho or else they’re screwed

But Bono is looking incredible

Eh, depends

He’s a winning goal merchant

[grave glen]

wait i dont remember how the sevilla-barca game ended

[livid siren]

Yep

[grave glen]

was it 1-0

pedri

[livid siren]

And his bicycle kicks aswell

I think he’s tried it like 3-4 times

All really good attempts

Yeah it hit the crossbar

[grave glen]

best laliga mid imo after modric

pedri

[livid siren]

I would honestly argue he’s better

They’re both very close tho

Hahahahha

[grave glen]

messi crossbar challenge in ligue 1

[livid siren]

And offside challenge

[livid siren]

Or well, that’s his teammates

He scored twice from offside yesterday

Ah okay mb

Haha yeah

Especially with the goal cuz he wasn’t even the one that was offside

[grave glen]

he would have a lot more if psg could finish

i cant they dont stream it in finland anywhere

[livid siren]

I don’t think we’re allowed to say that even if we do

[grave glen]

yeah

perkele

nice

niceee

[livid siren]

What position do u play?

[grave glen]

i quit football a while ago because of uhh stuff but im starting to come back

[livid siren]

Ah, so ur rodrygos replacement haha

Nah I’d say La masia and Ajax are the best

And United academy third probably

[grave glen]

ansu needs to stop getting injured

[livid siren]

Nico aswell

Yeah

I’m worried his career is over

Yep

[grave glen]

i bet he would be top scorer in la liga if he got to play

[livid siren]

He missed out on messis last season

That’s a pretty big loss

And just development in general

Idk

Don’t think so

Ooooh yeah yeah yeah

I know

Yep

Poor guy man

They literally named that golden generation of la Masia after him

Yeah sum like that

[sand gate]

In the last four years, only two players have had 25+ goals and 10+ assists in a season in Europe’s top five leagues:

[iron marten]

Cool

[charred wadi]

Valverde and benzema

goat things

[hasty hearth]

this man and benz

[chrome slate]

no way 💀

[grave glen]

yes way

[chrome slate]

#memes btw

Please post such content there

[grave glen]

Ok

[dusky stream]

No lol

[dusky stream]

Kroos and Parejo > Modric

[wheat spoke]

That’s something to think about

[lament agate]

wait what

kroos isnt even a guaranteed starter in the starting 11

[tardy sparrow]

@chrome slate predictions for Cadiz game

[limpid quest]

Post stuff like this in #memes

[silk radish]

Varca gonna shithouse it

I just know it

[plain elbow]

Big screen party at the Benito Villamarin foe the copa del rey final.

[grave glen]

[tardy sparrow]

We need him or Pau torres asap

[tardy sparrow]

I hope so

[silk radish]

Wdym I hope so?

You want them to win?

[tardy sparrow]

It's Cadiz

[silk radish]

So?

You want Barca to win?

[tardy sparrow]

Never said that

[slender reef]

Lenglet and Garcia at center back

[tardy sparrow]

First half pen incoming?

[grave glen]

[chrome slate]

2-0 Barca win

I thought the same for a moment, but then noticed their recent run

Yes

[tardy sparrow]

Barkalona starting without centre backs tho

[iron marten]

No

[tardy sparrow]

Yes

[silk radish]

https://www.realmadrid.com/noticias/2022/04/18/comunicado-oficial-2?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organico

Nice

[eager narwhal]

Every GK is Neuer against barca

[iron marten]

Hahaaaaa

[dusky stream]

Kroos has the 2nd minutes of any Real Madrid midfielder behind Casemiro who is a DM
Stop lying

[worldly beacon]

Sergio gonzalez>simeone

[grave glen]

https://twitter.com/MrCrocs_8/status/1515564918149242880?t=JcRw0HfnCYDAL88NLL0d9A&s=09

ᴍʀ. ᴄʀᴏᴄꜱ🎩 (@MrCrocs_8)

Pic 1: Xavi Hernandez celebration after a winner against 20th place Levante.

Pic 2: Carlo Ancelotti celebration after Sergio Ramos 92:48 goal in a UCL final.

Likes

9491

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825

Twitter · Apr 17, 2022, 5:36 AM

[tardy sparrow]

My man called it

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-worship-worshipping-now-bowing-gif-12297363

[viral dew]

Barca is back

[iron marten]

Now I don't feel so bad for losing to Real Madrid, thank you Cádiz

[viral dew]

This is what xavi said in his last interview

[supple parcel]

we are 7 points closer to laligaaaa

[slender reef]

Memphis Depay full highlights and goals vs Cádiz | 18/04/22 | Spotify stadium (4K) | The Dutch Messi?? | Best free transfer of all time?? 🥶

[gilded wasp]

and we are back... to bottom

[digital aurora]

[tardy sparrow]

?

[digital aurora]

I don't know what I'm doing...

[tardy sparrow]

Xavi on Wednesday -
"If we don’t play well, we’re not happy. That’s how we Catalans are. I don’t know how it is in Madrid".

Since then,

1. Lost to Frankfurt at home ( which was Frankfurt's only win this month )
2. Lost to Cadiz at home ( who were 18th on the table )

[prisma swift]

https://twitter.com/City_Xtra/status/1516168739594637313?s=20&t=9lO12FUeuC-DPNCxoAU05A

City Xtra (@City_Xtra)

Breaking: #ManCity are now expected to trigger Erling Haaland’s £63M release clause at Borussia Dortmund and, if all goes according to plan, what is likely to be a five-year deal should be sealed in the next week or so.

[via @MikeKeegan_DM]

https://t.co/ScTOfUwZPF

Likes

179

Twitter · Apr 18, 2022, 9:36 PM

LETS FUCKING GOOO

[sinful roost]

yeah told everyone haaland isn’t going to Barca or Real Madrid

[tardy sparrow]

Barca can't afford

Won't share the spotlight with mbappe

[sinful roost]

exactly

[prisma swift]

always never wanted haaland here

[sinful roost]

you have the first bunch of deluded Barca fans saying haaland is gonna go to Barca and the other bunch of deluded RM fans posting pics of a haaland, vini, mbappe front three

[tardy sparrow]

Yeah instead of buying terminator we should seriously invest in a CB and a RB

[grave glen]

I warned every Barcelona fan about getting their hopes up on Xavi

[sacred sorrel]

Dang João Félix injured?

[plain elbow]

and now out for the rest of the season. Officially.

[grave glen]

And all they did was flame me

I deserve apologies

[sacred sorrel]

@plain elbow dang

at least that means Cunha will probably be starting for a while

[viral stirrup]

They wouldve won if they never had addison rae wear their home shirt

[grave glen]

Looool

How did i miss

That varca were playing

Dang dawg

Atleti barca sevilla all at 60

[sand gate]

Carlo Ancelotti on Marco Asensio and AC Milan links: "Asensio has great quality. I don't know what's gonna happen with his future - although he is talking to the club to discuss the contract", he told Radio Rai. 🇪🇸 #RealMadrid

"He's always helping the team", Ancelotti added.

[grave glen]

Xavi has 16 victories in 30 games since his arrival (53.33%). It is worse than Koeman's win rate (58.21%) and is the coach with the lowest percentage of games won since Charly Rexach in 2002.

— @LaLigaenDirecto

Xavi ball is the truth

[sand gate]

Carlo Ancelotti confirms: “Luka Modrić will finish his career here at Real Madrid. I don’t know when but it will happen - this is the idea of the club and Luka”. ⭐️🇭🇷 #RealMadrid

“Modrić won't have problems to renew the contract - I compare him to Paolo Maldini”.

[grave glen]

Yessirrrrrrr

1 last year i guess

[sand gate]

Need him to retire here like Marcelo

he’s probably gonna have around the same game time and Valverde will be a starter

Real Madrid are happy with their new signing Vinícius Tobias from Shakhtar, Ancelotti says: “He’s very good - I see there’s lot of quality and potential in this boy”. ⚪️🇧🇷 #RealMadrid

“He’s a player we consider part of Real Madrid project for the future”.

[pulsar sundial]

the question everyone wants too know

xavi out ?

[slender olive]

No?!

[pulsar sundial]

he’s shown that he isn’t capable of this job

[grave glen]

I was right about Xavi

[slender olive]

He's improved so many players

[pulsar sundial]

yeah i agreed with u

[slender olive]

Luuk, Dembele, examples

[pulsar sundial]

only thing that I actually agreed with you

[slender olive]

Not yet you aren't

[pulsar sundial]

those players were already good tho

it’s not like they were bad before

[slender olive]

No they weren't

Would you put Dembele anywhere near the best wingers itw before he came in

[severe leaf]

Xavi best manager itw

[slender olive]

And what about Luuk

[pulsar sundial]

no because of injuries

[slender olive]

he's been memed asf

[pulsar sundial]

luuk is just a last minute merchant

[slender olive]

Now he's legitimately a pretty clutch player

[pulsar sundial]

if xavi was good why doesn’t he put luuk in

[slender olive]

Injuries or no he wouldn't have had 11 assists\

[pulsar sundial]

he’s proven himself

[slender olive]

He's not starter quality but he isn't useless

[pulsar sundial]

he obv because everytime he comes in he scores rare for a player to do that

[slender olive]

He's too one dimensional for our play

He's only good to spam crosses to as a last minute resort

[grave glen]

bro yall were comparing him to Zidane 😭

bro got the worse win percentage than koeman

[grave glen]

stupid of barca fans

he got hated for no reason

[slender olive]

honesty he was shit for many months tho?

[grave glen]

koeman was right hes very dangerous in air

[slender olive]

Welp we never got to see that under koeman

so

who can blame us

[grave glen]

yh because koeman started him he can only head

useful when the game is ending bcz you need better aerial players

koeman wasn't wrong about him but barca isn't the kind of team that plays on crosses

poor approach

[slender olive]

yeh

[slender olive]

but xavi puts him in at the end and knows how to maximise his abilities

so now hes okay

[grave glen]

every manager would know that

[tardy sparrow]

Xavi will succeed with right resources

[grave glen]

but i give him some credit he has been working personally with luuks heading

[grave glen]

maybe next season will prove it if he's the right man for the job or not

they wouldnt have koeman to use as a scapegoat excuse

[tardy sparrow]

True

[hasty hearth]

delusional barca fans are gonna want koeman. like what more do u actually want?

let xavi do what he can rn

[slender olive]

And nobody can deny we've improved

that 12 points behind madrid bullshit just means we've been on par with madrid in terms of form

for the past few months

[hasty hearth]

exactly

someone knows

xavi literally cleaned up what koeman caused.

lol

[slender olive]

So you're all wrong

Xavi HAS improved the team and anyone who doesn't see it is a fool

[still pagoda]

🎙| Eric Garcia: “Yes we just lost to Cadiz (17th) but I told Xavi not to worry because Vinicius will not be winning the Ballon d'Or.” #rmalive

[slender olive]

thats probs fake

[still pagoda]

It is

Bruh we really gonna lift the title at the wanda

Ew

[barren orbit]

You're right. We would be struggling for top 4 with Koeman. Atleast now we have a high chance of finishing top 4. The defeat was expected considering the defence we had

[slender olive]

yeah

lets just hope we can hold on

[dusky stream]

Context matters no?
Koeman in 20/21 has a squad miles better than anything Xavi had

[grave glen]

It wasn’t hard to improve the pile of shit Koeman left him lmao. All he has proven is he’s not more shit than the bottom of the barrel

[slender olive]

Well from 9th to 2nd, that's improvement, xavi has proven he's doing good and has the ability to take the team forward

thats what hes proven

not that he's a world class manager or whatever

Although he very well could be one day it's still early

[eager narwhal]

Just 2 losses and these silly people are relentless

We had this coming ... Our sqaud is not the best

[grave glen]

You’re fucking Barcelona who had massive spending January. You were 9th at the very start Barcelona was never that bad 😂

Going from 9th to 2nd isn’t impressive in that context

I’m not saying Xavi is shit I am saying he hasn’t proved anything yet

[grave glen]

All he had better was Messi

[eager narwhal]

Bro to prove things u have to get a better unbreakable sqaud .. Xavi has atleast proved that he is in right direction ...much earlier

[severe leaf]

Xavi and Ole who's better?

Seems pretty similar to me

[hasty hearth]

it isnt

[severe leaf]

Why

[grave glen]

It’s the exact same

Ole and Xavi

[eager narwhal]

Ur mindset and cowshit ..seems similar to me

[grave glen]

At least Lampard had to start from scratch with 0 transfers

[severe leaf]

Ah yeah, barca fanbase

[grave glen]

They are deluded man

[hasty hearth]

youre saying it like xavi didnt have to clean up koemans act

basically

[eager narwhal]

Yeaa why not winning and imposing new enthusiasm in the team..
Losing after January and backing our manager for the amazing improvement and results
And supporting the manager at some forbid times
Yes we are deluded

[sand gate]

It’s just funny because the 4-0 seems to be Barca’s little trophy this season and look at them now. You need 2-3 years to get to top level football again assuming correct recruitment strategy in place.

Also, Carlo literally went Football Manager mode with that lineup for the 4:0 playing Kross and Modric as strikers.

[grave glen]

That 4-0 was just a perfect day for Barcelona and the worst day for Real Madrid

[dusky stream]

He had Griezmann, and Pjanic (who he didn’t know how to use)

He had Firpo to sub for Alba (who now doesn’t really have a suitable backup)

[eager narwhal]

Yes after 2-3 years barca players will be winning balondors and boding entire teams

[sand gate]

Yea right who’s winning ballon dor at Barca ?

[grave glen]

Griezman wasn’t being used correctly before Koeman, Griezman was always overrated and always operated in two strikers systems

[eager narwhal]

Not to mention you already know that

[dusky stream]

And Messi is a huge plus

[grave glen]

Xavi got Auba, Torres, and Traoe added?

[sand gate]

No I don’t genuinely don’t

Benzema winning it this year and Mbappe will be up next

[dusky stream]

Auba and Torres have been good, Adama hasn’t bar a spark in his first few appearances

[dusky stream]

Winning what?

[sand gate]

Ballon d’or

[dusky stream]

Kk

I’d probably have Mbappe as the best in the world this season anyway

[eager narwhal]

Mbappe is a good player not great

[dusky stream]

?????

[sand gate]

he is tho ⁉️

[dusky stream]

Find me a better player this season

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/918571918905462867/965808279815077909/radar_Kylian_Mbappe_None_2021-2022.png

[grave glen]

If Benzema wins the UCL he’s guaranteed it surely. If he still doesn’t he has a great chance

[eager narwhal]

U watch football on paper?

[grave glen]

Mbappe is world class and top 5 lmfao just stfu

[sand gate]

I hope so it would be so cool if he won it man he’s been great this season

[dusky stream]

??? Those stats are literally what happens in the game, just counted up using advanced tech so we don’t have do it ourselves

[grave glen]

Mbappe on paper and with the eye is world class lmao

[sand gate]

agreed

[grave glen]

Clearly the most worthy player on the market right now is Mbappe

[dusky stream]

And it’s an intellectually malnourished statement to make that I ‘watch football on paper’. If you want to make dumbass and baseless assumptions on people’s lives, I suggest you fuck off to Twitter

[severe leaf]

Least deluded barca fan

[slender olive]

Mbappe's one of the best players itw rn, yes

but I don't think he'll win the ballon d'or

that's surely Benzema's

[severe leaf]

This year yes

[sand gate]

yea this season forsure

[severe leaf]

But we also talking about next years

[slender olive]

Depends what he can do at madrid

[dusky stream]

The stuff like dribbles, progression, goals are all objective metrics, easily countable. People who deny the stats are just those who probably got bullied by their maths teacher or have poor logical reasoning skills

[severe leaf]

Of course

[eager narwhal]

Mbappe gonna end like hazard

[sand gate]

If he stays fit it should happen but yea depends on the success

[severe leaf]

But saying he isnt great player

Is deluded af

💀

[slender olive]

Nobody can see that

it could happen but i doubt it

[dusky stream]

Well that’s just something unpredictable.

[slender olive]

Hazard's main problem is his lack of discipline tbh

[severe leaf]

What hamburger does to a mfer

[dusky stream]

But so far, Mbappe has been undoubtedly in every season since joining PSG

[slender olive]

yeah

[sand gate]

hazard came into the team unfit and got injured asap literally unpredictable

[eager narwhal]

Hazard and bale faced similar problem ....isolation

[slender olive]

but he's never been considered for tha ballon d'or bc he never won the CL

[dusky stream]

Anyone who says different really at doesn’t understand the game

[slender olive]

Hot take but Bale is a madrid legend

[severe leaf]

Yeah he is

[sand gate]

Nah bale and hazard don’t belong in same sentence

[dusky stream]

He is obviously

[sand gate]

Fr Fr

at least for RMA they don’t

[slender olive]

I feel like the last few years just gave him a bad taste

[dusky stream]

And then RMA fans boo him for not leaving lmaooo

[slender olive]

Mhm yea

[dusky stream]

As if he didn’t have a legally binding contract

[sand gate]

Yea it’s not a great ending but as a RMA fan I won’t forget what bale did for our club

[slender olive]

wasnt he set to move to china

then zidane blocked the move or smth

so

thats kinda their fault

[sand gate]

Yea true

[slender olive]

also he proved at spurs he can still be useful

[severe leaf]

And wales

[slender olive]

yeah

[sand gate]

it just went sour when it looks like he shows lack of interest of the game and he’s out playing golf while ‘injured’

that’s why fans got on his back

[eager narwhal]

Mbappe will not end like hazard coz unlike hazard mbappe is more liked and just like their baby boy
Hazard on the other hand was demanded immediate results and just a player

[slender olive]

Maybe but ehhh honestly atmosphere around your club is lowkey toxic

i dont blame him for not having the motivation to be at his best

[dusky stream]

🧇 🧇

[slender olive]

waffles are bad

[sand gate]

Only when we are in a “crisis” or on a losing streak tbh

[slender olive]

pancakes>

[grave glen]

Not even remotely close… Mbappe is just much more driven than Hazard was

[sand gate]

But for the most part I wouldn’t say it’s toxic

[slender olive]

ehhh

[sand gate]

People online tho they are

Lol

[eager narwhal]

I changed my opinion

[dusky stream]

When Mbappe moves to Real Madrid, results will be demanded immediately, there’s no question of that. He’ll be on over 30m a year

[slender olive]

maybe

[slender olive]

yeah

[sand gate]

Definitely

[slender olive]

he'll basically be the next ronaldo i feel like

in terms of expectations

[sand gate]

but he’s gonna have benzema to take some of the pressure off

In the goal scoring aspect

[slender olive]

Mbappe and Benzema is fucking terrifying ngl

[eager narwhal]

He is not touching cr7 ' s boot..😑

[eager narwhal]

Vini on the right

[slender olive]

Unless Fati and Ferran and possibly Dembele all have world class seasons we're probably not gonna win the league

[sand gate]

Vini on the left

Mbappe right

[eager narwhal]

We need fullbacks asap 🙂

[dusky stream]

?

[sand gate]

Dude we do too

Apparently Madrid are looking at Reece James

[dusky stream]

You don’t spend 50m a year on a player and play him out of position

[sand gate]

He impressed at the Bernabeu

[sand gate]

He plays on the right for France

[eager narwhal]

Mbappe will be a legendary player but not touching cr legacy

[dusky stream]

Mbappe will play LW or you’ll be hindering his best play

[sand gate]

And when benzema is gone he can be our striker

[eager narwhal]

Mbappe will be definitely be playing on the left

[twilit halo]

WAIT BARCA LOST TO CADIZ

how did i miss this

[sand gate]

Sleep

[slender olive]

Welp he might leave if chelsea dont get a new owner

[slender olive]

can u play 2 strikers

[grave glen]

Obviously Chelsea is getting a new owner

[sand gate]

Hopefully we can get him that would be sick

[dusky stream]

-National team football is a joke compared to Club football, and France in 2018 played a system where Mbappe shifted to either wing where Griezmann just tucked behind the CF.

Now, it’s a 3-4-1-2 with Mbappe and Benzema up top.

-His best position has always been LW

[sand gate]

Yea but we can’t bench Vinicius rn

[slender olive]

I'm still not wholly convinced by Vinicius tbh

[eager narwhal]

Imagine Chelsea new American owner
Sells mount havertz James to Madrid

[sand gate]

WC is the highest level bro I wouldn’t say it’s a joke at all

But yea he is better in the lw spot

[dusky stream]

Eh, Mbappe currently is at a level where if he were to maintain it for 10 more years, he’d overall be better than CR

CR was incredible with his scoring, but Mbappe’s showing chance creation, dribbling and progression abilities that Ronaldo hasn’t really been at the level of ever.

[sand gate]

He’s had a great season tbh I think he’s only gonna get better

17 g 17 a this season so far

[dusky stream]

Waste of his abilities there, it’ll be best to get a 9 to play off of

[dusky stream]

?

[slender olive]

hm okay

[twilit halo]

im really hoping rudi stays

[eager narwhal]

He can but mbaape hasn't produced any magic..maybe its just PSG .

[dusky stream]

7 matches where about 4 of them against dogshit teams isn’t the ‘highest level’

[twilit halo]

im cool with christensen leaving

[dusky stream]

International football is absolutely nowhere near club football for an endless list of reasons.

[eager narwhal]

Under Xavi Christensen will be good

[sand gate]

That’s a whole different debate lol we on Mbappe rn 😂

[dusky stream]

Over performing his xG like mad, but other than that he’s a very good young winger

[eager narwhal]

Unless your own country is playing

[dusky stream]

What do you mean?

[sand gate]

Vinicius still only 21. 34 G/A isn’t bad at all any age tbh

[dusky stream]

International football has never been at the level of club football. It’s just the media attention around a tournament that comes once every 4 years makes people get incredibly reactionary and forget that the squad play about 10 games a year and the quality of the squads are hugely dependant on whether it’s been a decent period for talent. If there are holes in a National team, team just have to stick with it as they can’t purchase players

[sand gate]

That’s a lie

[twilit halo]

mount only has 26 G/A

but he gets rotated

[dusky stream]

How on Earth can you say that National teams are better when the players leave their various different clubs of different systems to join a squad for periods of less than 14 days?

[sand gate]

cuz u said never at one point national team football was the top of the game but club football is better now obviously so many competitions

[twilit halo]

altho i think mounts played more matches than vini

[eager narwhal]

Your country?

[twilit halo]

national teams are stacked

bro france and germany are insane

[sand gate]

France alone is insane

[dusky stream]

Extremely few teams have a full squad with no holes

[twilit halo]

same with spain

[sand gate]

Yea

[twilit halo]

like 5 do

[sand gate]

Brazil

Argentina

Stacked

[twilit halo]

brazil

spain

germany

argentina

france

[eager narwhal]

Your country doesn't play in the international tournaments prolly that's why you are assuming this

[dusky stream]

And yet they have a donkey of a coach and mainly depend on the individual quality of the players

[sand gate]

Irrelevant with talent

[twilit halo]

could argue england but im not sold on maguire-stones

[dusky stream]

Serious holes for years in the defence and midfield

[sand gate]

Yep

[dusky stream]

Serious issue of a top forward, they haven’t had a pure elite forward since Villa in 2010

[sand gate]

Italy would be up there too if they had a competent striker who can score

They attack is weak

[twilit halo]

moreno is good enough

drop morata and put moreno in

[dusky stream]

Lack a top striker, and Low was past it for years and miles behind the elite club coaches like Klopp

[sand gate]

Hansi flick??

Miles behind

[dusky stream]

???? It’s logical reasoning

[sand gate]

Nah

[twilit halo]

flick manages now, and havertz has shown he can be great

[sand gate]

havertz will do good for Germany trust

[dusky stream]

Havertz isn’t an elite striker

[dusky stream]

Moreno isn’t a pure 9, and Morata has always been the better fit there.

[twilit halo]

i mean what do you want in a striker

he scores goals

[sand gate]

Neither was klose but it’s how u perform for ur team

Or Giroud

they still do good for the team

[twilit halo]

yeah france won the wc with giroud having significant play time

[dusky stream]

Look at the elite clubs currently like Liverpool and Man City, they’re playing train with each other every day for months on end

[sand gate]

He played every game apart from 1/2 games

Germany and Spain already do that too 😂

Bayern and Barca

[dusky stream]

For international football, the quality of teams is a huge drop off, where you can be a good team by simply going through a good period of talents popping up. e.g Belgium with their golden age.

[dusky stream]

And Giroud is nowhere near elite. They get away with Deschamps dinosaur tactics of playing Matuidi on the wings and Pogba in a double pivot because the quality of teams they face isn’t that good

[sand gate]

That was the point U don’t need to be elite (havertz) to succeed for the national team

as long as u play ur role for the team

And play ur part

Klose for Germany

Wasn’t elite

At club level

but for Germany legend

[dusky stream]

This proves my point though?

Club football is at a much higher level

[sand gate]

I don’t think so because klose was still playing at a top level at Bayern and seria a for lazio

he wasn’t at a weak team or anything either

[dusky stream]

The teams train together more, under the same system, with the best coaches in the world. If there is a gap in the squad, the elite teams can just spend for replacements. National teams don’t have any of those luxuries

[sand gate]

They have so many player to call up

[dusky stream]

Look at Spain for example.
Llorente and Koke play in Simeone’s pragmatic system and are expected to switch up their whole game for a 10 day period during international breaks

[dusky stream]

Barely any teams have that much depth of elite players

[sand gate]

And u can’t spend until a transfer window not Immediately

[grave glen]

Yeah bullshit statement about Ronaldo. You didn’t watch United Ronaldo lol.

[dusky stream]

The fact that you can spend to improve positions is a huge factor when building a top team

[dusky stream]

Ronaldo at Man U (1st stint) wasn’t putting up anywhere near the goal numbers Mbappe has been doing for the past 5 seasons

[frank robin]

he wasnt a striker either

[sand gate]

He was playing as a RW and LM

at utd

He played both roles

[frank robin]

but irish is right, if mbappe keeps on going like this he will surpass penaldog

[dusky stream]

Mbappe managing to bring elite scoring, chance creating, ball progression and dribbling all together is something that Ronaldo did not do

[dusky stream]

Let’s not bastardise players, leave that shit on Twitter

[grave glen]

Ronaldo first stint was developing in the toughest competition in the world. But Ronaldo’s peak at United was a better dribbler, creator, and goal scorer than Mbappe.

[sand gate]

2008 cr7 did that

[grave glen]

2008 CR7 is the best winger of all time

[dusky stream]

Mbappe as a striker is doing far more dribbling and progression than Ronaldo ever did as a winger.

[sand gate]

He won ballon dor with utd that year

[grave glen]

Just no 😂😂

This guy didn’t watch Ronaldo 2008

Plain and simple

[dusky stream]

Yeah I don’t really give a shot about ballon Dors in arguments

[dusky stream]

Messi?

[grave glen]

Yes better than Messi. Messi’s best years were definitely at false 9

[sand gate]

nah

Messi owns the false 9 position

[dusky stream]

Just because his best years were down the middle doesn’t mean he wasn’t the best RW the game has ever seen

[grave glen]

2008 Ronaldo was ridiculous, the pace, the dribbling, the crossing, the chance creation, the goal scoring from everywhere possible, and headers.

[grave glen]

No the best winger ever was 2008 Ronaldo

[frank robin]

deluded

[grave glen]

Definitely not

[pulsar sundial]

deluded

it’s vini

[grave glen]

It’s a hard fact

[pulsar sundial]

lmao

[frank robin]

carrasco clear

[sand gate]

It’s not deluded

[pulsar sundial]

finished

[dusky stream]

Messi 18/19 was better at scoring that year, dribbling, progression and chance creation though?

[dusky stream]

Great… the trolling has started up

[pulsar sundial]

do yk who I’m talking about ?

[dusky stream]

No, I don’t really care. You just said ‘finished’ like a 5 year old does on Twitter to describe a player and try act funny.

[pulsar sundial]

are u you hurt that i called a player finished ? the guy replied to me saying another player is clear

how else do you want me to reply

saying stuff without context

[sand gate]

18/19 Messi was playing striker with suarez 😭😭

[pulsar sundial]

wasn’t even describing him that’s the thing

[sand gate]

vs Liverpool he played striker both legs

[dusky stream]

That was 17/18 where EV played a 4-4-2, we reverted back to a 4-3-3 for 18/19 as Coutinho / Dembele could play on the wing

[sand gate]

No that year was 2019

[toxic hinge]

Punicorn Pelsea strikes again

[sand gate]

2018/2019 season