la-liga

[still pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-falling-fast-gif-18043850

[worldly beacon]

If we lose this game anceloti out

[sand gate]

He is

COURTOIS IS THE BEST GK IN HE WORLD

[plain elbow]

A win for Cadiz tomorrow would be huge.

[normal idol]

levante win again

only 5 points off safety

SI SE PUEDE

@plain elbow

thoughts

on relegation fight

call me mad, call me crazy

but levante are staying up

you heard it hear first

imo mallorca alaves and ultimately cadiz are going down

i think granada could go down instead of cadiz tbh

[grave glen]

Granada, Alaves and Cadiz are my bets

More than anything i just hope levante survives

Charming team

[worldly beacon]

And Mallorca too

[grave glen]

True, mallorca is a nice team aswell

[plain elbow]

Mallorca are worrying. They’ve got to start winning some more games.

[slender olive]

https://twitter.com/BarcaUniversal/status/1510210647769948162

Barça Universal (@BarcaUniversal)

Lopetegui: "We have to beat the most in form team in the world right now. Not only in Spain, they could win the Champions League at this moment. It’s clear that they have one of the best squads in the world."

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Twitter · Apr 2, 2022, 11:00 AM

wtf?

bit far init

[plain elbow]

Oh

That’s very normal from Lopetegui, btw.

[slender olive]

wtf lmao

[plain elbow]

He enjoys to leave a flabbergasting vibe after press conferences.

[slender olive]

...damn lol

LMAO

[iron marten]

Well technically he isn't that wrong

With them having the best form and such

[slender olive]

not winning the CL tho?!!!

[warm fossil]

Penzema at it again 🤡

[iron marten]

I didn't mention that part

[bitter hemlock]

nah, liverpool are the most in-form team itw rn

[slender olive]

hm okay

[iron marten]

In any case, I don't see us winning against Barcelona anyway

They'll comfortably win

[bitter hemlock]

Based on form in 2022 so far, we're 2nd best

[grave glen]

[grave glen]

That’s cap, idk what happens but we become shit after international break.

Also the game is sold out

[slender olive]

for which

[grave glen]

Sevilla

[slender olive]

Cool

[grave glen]

Barca vs Sevilla

[bleak swallow]

Joao es papi

[cyan adder]

How tf did Madrid get 3 pens in one game

[slender olive]

Bc Celta gave away 3 pens?

[worldly beacon]

He isn't wrong tbh

[worldly beacon]

Because 3 fouls were committed

[pale geode]

We gonna get destroyed by Chelsea smh

[worldly beacon]

[grave glen]

Floppy Felix doing it again

the Kondo best physical mid in la liga currently

Matheus CUCACUNHA with the quality

Super Sub Suarez back at scoring

Aupa atleti

[bleak swallow]

https://twitter.com/slbenficayouth/status/1510361952245137416?s=21&t=VRU9mC1DQP575yqx6Mw6rA

Benfica Youth (@SLBenficaYouth)

João Félix vs Alavés:

94 minutes
2 goals
1 pre-assist
52 touches
83,9% passing accuracy
1 big chance created
3 key passes
2 shots on target
3/3 successful dribbles
3/5 long balls accuracy
6/8 ground duels won
2/3 aerial duels won
Was fouled three times

Not. Stopping. 😤

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Twitter · Apr 2, 2022, 9:02 PM

[runic cipher]

Still should move clubs

[tardy eagle]

No he shouldnt

Should become a legend

[gloomy badger]

Nah he's so inform

[runic cipher]

He’s in form yes but how long is it going to last? Let’s be honest, since he’s joined Atleti he’s been on and off. A fresh start in a new league could do him the world of good

[gloomy badger]

True, i always agreed that cholo's defensive playstyle doesn't really fit him, but he's figuring it all out now, and fitting to the tactics, give him some more time, you will see

[dusky stream]

Or maybe it's time to realise that he isn't an elite player in the slightest?

And the very top teams wouldn't be able to accomodate his many, many shortcomings. Being a decent player at Atletico is the most he'll ever achieve

[bleak swallow]

Lol the felix hater arrives

[gloomy badger]

Brother u don't watch Atleti enough he's so talented

[bleak swallow]

I wonder when you would come around

[bleak swallow]

No point you would never convince him everyone sees his talent

[dusky stream]

Using awful rating algorithm to justify a horrible take = ball knowledge equivalent to that of a quadriplegic dog with dementia

[bleak swallow]

How about you use your eyes

And i guess if he scores against city too you gonna say he still aint got potential to be elite right

[gloomy badger]

I agree that sofa stats don't matter that much, but there's no way he plays bad with that good average rating

[dusky stream]

I have watched enough Atletico matches in the last 3 seasons to see that Felix is a type of player which doesn't cut it in the modern game. He hasn't had one elite season and will never be elite because no top team can accommodate second-strikers with so many shortcomings

[dusky stream]

You shouldn't use sofascore ratings period.

You should not think of using them at all

They're incredibly flawed, leave out many crucial aspects of the game like ball progression and place far too much emphasis on G/A stats.

[gloomy badger]

It isn't only sofa man, the guy mentioned it, and i just told you that he's playing very good in past few games, he has potential and u need to admit that

[dusky stream]

they should absolutely never be brought up when analysing a coach, team or player

[bleak swallow]

I told you you’re wasting your time bud

He been made up his mind long time ago that felix is average

[dusky stream]

Using a single game to prove your point is mindboggling stupid.
Players shouldn't be judged based on a small sample.

[gloomy badger]

Maybe, but the guy isn't toxic at least, and we are having a normal talk about the player

[bleak swallow]

I have been coming to you games after games saying you still think the same of felix haven’t i

[gloomy badger]

Not toxic to me* lmao

[bleak swallow]

Acting like this is the first time I’ve brought up the felix argument

We have had this talk here

In the barca chat

[dusky stream]

Oh I'm never toxic, it's just that Felix has never put up the results of an elite player over a significant period. It's baffling that people give him so much leeway simply because he's a flair player.

[bleak swallow]

And you have made it obvious on what you think about felix and i just agreed to disagree

[dusky stream]

And his average for the season still isn't that great. 3-4 good games aren't enough. If he wants to plead his case for being elite, he needs to do for at least one season. He hasn't even had that

[bleak swallow]

Has he been starting before now?

10 starts

And we are half way through the season

Not even half

3/4

[gloomy badger]

I think that u would call him an elite player, if he got to some smaller teamy like benfica again, he improves there, then something like Barca buys him, and he improves there too, so it's not about him he just needs a time to adapt, not worth 120 mil bcs he needs that much to adapt, but does the job

And for sure he can be more than average atleti player as you said

[dusky stream]

He's improving, but it's still absolutely nowhere near elite yet. Elite is reserved for at least a player who could be in contention of starting for any team out there.

[gloomy badger]

He can be an elite player he isn't rn but he can be, the thing that triggers me is when you said he's not going to be any better than any atleti average player

[dusky stream]

Of course Atletico's system needs to be taken into consideration. But Felix wouldn't start on most of the teams that are above Atletico because he can't be an elite winger or a striker

[gloomy badger]

He can, everyone can with enough training and good moral, and good relationship with a club

Imagine him under pep, he would make him top 5 youngsters itw

[dusky stream]

Where does he play in LP, Barca, Reals, or PSG's 4-3-3 system?

He isn't a winger or a striker

[gloomy badger]

Idk how much time does he need but he could become one

[dusky stream]

Felix doesn't have the end product to be striker for pep and he isn't a winger.

[gloomy badger]

He can play a striker, he can play a false 9 and probably a cam too

[dusky stream]

He's a second striker. False 9 is just a role, instructions. CAM/SS/10 are more or less the same, it's just semantics.

[gloomy badger]

He has something special, he is very talented and coul become something big

[grave glen]

LOL

Floppy Felix has all the atletico haters scolding mad

[dusky stream]

He's elite in absolutely no aspect of the game though? So what exactly is this special thing he has?

[grave glen]

Stay mad

6 games unbeaten

Floppy Felix banging game after game

💪

Cholismo

[dusky stream]

6 league goals is a low amount, and even then, scoring 6 goals of 4.1 xG (not including today's match) is unsustainable

Any player can overperform in small isolated samples

[worldly beacon]

City breaking the streak

[gloomy badger]

Hes dribbling is fantastic, he is very creative and, pretty fast, a good playmaker, and makes the whole attack better

[dusky stream]

Long term though, players almost always even out

[grave glen]

[grave glen]

8

[worldly beacon]

Atletico not playing ucl next season

[gloomy badger]

No.

[worldly beacon]

Oh shit u r just saw the table

[dusky stream]

I showed it above, his dribbling numbers aren't anywhere near elite.
His creative numbers are good, but not elite. They could improve on a better team, but my previous point about him not fitting into another team's system still stands. The SS/10 role is dying out.
He's okay for pace, but he can't play as a winger and he doesn't make enough runs to consistently get into scoring positions.
As for making the attack better, Atletico play a frankly awful attacking system that it doesn't take much to improve them. On a team like MC, LP or Bayern, sticking Felix in for any of the starting forwards would be a hit on the attack.

[dusky stream]

6 league goals is a low amount, and even then, scoring 6 goals of 4.1 xG (not including today's match) is unsustainable

[grave glen]

edited it coward

Floppy Felix got all atletico haters scolding mad

Love to see it, LOL

[dusky stream]

It's not edited though?

[grave glen]

In all seriousness, watch Joao’s games if you’re gonna type so much

The lad has world class quality

And is only getting better

[dusky stream]

If he is the bar for world class, then a lot of players would be considered elite, making the term meaningless

[gloomy badger]

It's hard to find a team that will improve him to be what u call "elite", but as you said he can be "elite" with enough training, and I'm glad that we've dealed with that

[dusky stream]

Elite/world class should be reserved only for the absolute top players in their position

[grave glen]

Joao Felix is literally among top 5 youngsters rn

[dusky stream]

So what are we saying is young now?

[grave glen]

funniest thing is you dont even watch atletico games

So you dont have any clue

[dusky stream]

What age bracket?

[grave glen]

You just go by website stats which you misinterpret to fit your biases

How about watching football games LOL

[dusky stream]

Again, how do I misinterpret the stats?

[grave glen]

🤓

[grave glen]

Literally 101 in statistical data studies is learning how you can easily misinterpet and twist numbers to fit your narrative

If you were a la liga casual i’d take you more seriously but I know you havent seen a single Joao game besides CL perhaps

[dusky stream]

Again, how exactly am I misusing them? stats like progression, goals scored etc are 100% objective. If on is putting up far lower numbers than many other players, then you can hazard a decent guess that's he isn't elite

[dusky stream]

I've watched enough of Felix since the 19/20 season to see that he hasn't had a single elite season

Among players with a minimum 5 non-penalty league goals in the top 5 leagues (209 players), Felix is 64th for non-penalty goals**/90**

Among players with a minimum 4 league assists in the top 5 leagues (179 players), Felix is 127th for assists**/90**

How on earth is this elite?

[grave glen]

Thinking abt Tuesday

Partido A Partido

[worldly beacon]

Easy game for city

[tardy eagle]

he already is a top 5 youngster

[frank robin]

yes

felix

[storm dock]

It depends

Foden has more regularity than Felix

[grave glen]

Foden is for the wings

Felix is a banger SS

stupid comparison

i like both

both have potential

I’d say foden has so far demonstrated a bit more

If felix continues like this though

[storm dock]

It is not the other way around ?

[grave glen]

BOOM

[storm dock]

Talking about positions

[grave glen]

what no

Joao Felix plays upfront

Never in the wings

Foden is a pacey wing player, ik he can play CAM but its whatever he is best in the wing

[storm dock]

Yes

[grave glen]

I dont watch premier league though shit league

So ive seen foden in CL and England NT mostly

[storm dock]

I preffer him as a CAM or offensive midfielder

[grave glen]

That is fair

[storm dock]

WTF Premier league is the best league bro

[grave glen]

Here 🚪 #premier-league

[frank robin]

yh

foden is not anything special in prem games ngl

but he occasionally shows moments of brilliance

[storm dock]

Wich league do you prefer then ?

[frank robin]

guess bro

[storm dock]

Felix is better at skills and not much more for me

[frank robin]

felix is a ss

so he has lots of attribute better than foden

like his positioning

his heading

his finishing

[uncut dawn]

[frank robin]

lolol

im I lying?

[storm dock]

Nop

Finishing for me no

The other things maybe

[frank robin]

maybe finishing no

[storm dock]

Not, maybe not, YES

But finishing bro ?

[frank robin]

coz foden can hit it really good from far out

and he scores bangers all the time

[storm dock]

Felix dont use to score, but today score

[frank robin]

felix doesnt score a lot yh

[storm dock]

You as an Atletico fan, why do you think Atletico is on a bad situation and they are not like 2021, they have a good squad and they are 4th

[frank robin]

bad form for our defenders and our gk

and some key players leaving

and not being replaced properly

[storm dock]

They started very bad

[dusky stream]

Foden

[ember ruin]

Joao Felix

[storm dock]

They dont use to mantain a well performance continued

They do a good year and the next is bad

[frank robin]

lol

we are inconsistent

yh

[storm dock]

Yes

[dusky stream]

Foden is by far the better player

[storm dock]

woao

[frank robin]

see, it is clearly showing their different positions

[storm dock]

Amazing man

[storm dock]

Where did you make this ?

[dusky stream]

He's on a good run, of scoring, but it's an incredibly small sample size and leagues are played over 38 matches. And also, this was the 20th place La Liga team.

[frank robin]

lolol

[dusky stream]

A Discord bot on my own server

[storm dock]

LOL

The server needs to include that

[frank robin]

that is a crazy bot

this server needs

[grave glen]

🚪 #premier-league here go be a merchant where you’re supposed to

[storm dock]

XD

[grave glen]

See you Tuesday

[frank robin]

oh, yh

felix will show city levels in a few days

[dusky stream]

It's an exclusive bot only on my server, which I helped to make.

[storm dock]

Oh, i understand

Amazing job man

[frank robin]

damn, good job tho

[dusky stream]

@chrome slate If you'll look at this user's recent messages, you'll see that he has just been antagonistic, constantly resorting to jabs about my commitment to watching games (false accusations I might add)

[ember ruin]

man Felix is so good

very happy he's finally finding his feet at Atletico

from a Benfica fan

[grave glen]

Joao Felix is really good

[ember ruin]

and this isn't even his 100%

[grave glen]

And on his way to become a world class player

[ember ruin]

yeah

[grave glen]

He has the quality for it

This isn’t his only good string of performances though

Last year in the title win, he was fantastic the first 10-15 games before his injury

And in Benfica he pulled some beauty goals and assists, didnt he,

That made him get that price tag and move

I’ve seen some compilations

[ember ruin]

you bet

[grave glen]

He was banging in portuguese liga

[ember ruin]

I will say though,

120m was not what I expecting

I thought he'd be 70m

[grave glen]

It’s a high ass price for sure

For any player really

[ember ruin]

but eh i'm not complaining we got more money off it and he's going to deliver it

[lethal steeple]

But dropped in LaLiga

[grave glen]

Holy shit football fans are a hivemind

[lethal steeple]

Ridiculous amount of money

[grave glen]

Not even worth it

Go to sleep

[lethal steeple]

Not even a bit

[dusky stream]

dropped massively, overpriced and Atleti won't get their money's worth

[pale geode]

Vinicius or Félix

[lethal steeple]

Maybe would be sold for about 60m to 70m

[pale geode]

Is it even close

[grave glen]

I don’t get how Vinicius is worth 100M tbh

[pale geode]

Is there a single team that would take Félix over Vinicius

[lethal steeple]

Not close bro

[dusky stream]

Vinicius has a top season under his belt. Felix doesn't

[grave glen]

He can be 70 or 75

Maybe even 80

But not 100

[pale geode]

It’s only 20m more lol

[lethal steeple]

Not up to 100

[pale geode]

Plus he always had a high ceiling

He’s one of those players that even when he isn’t scoring contributes in a big way

[lethal steeple]

But vini plays in a better team than felix does

He has the likes of benzema

[pale geode]

This is why he’s worth 100m https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/827586185538175007/953120346670759936/image0.jpg

[lethal steeple]

It does matter

[worldly beacon]

He is not wrong phil foden shouldn't be discuss here

[worldly beacon]

Washed

[lethal steeple]

Ur form can also be determined by the team u play in

[sand gate]

When was last time Messi scored a hattrick for club?

[potent spade]

february 2020 against eibar

[sand gate]

Thx

[rapid topaz]

Sevilla are are coming for you.

Be scared

[rapid topaz]

😭

[rapid topaz]

He has been cooking for atletico madrid.

[tardy eagle]

Funny, vinicius is ghosting without benzema.. Felix>Vinicius easily

[dusky stream]

??????

[ember ruin]

tears

[vital kernel]

Why does felix get best youngster shouts after a purple patch?

Ridiculous

[ember ruin]

He's insanely talented

Top 3 most talented youngsters I'd say

If he can keep up this form then he'll be world class

[vital kernel]

Shut up

Istg stop being reactionary

This is like calling salah bad for one goal in his last 9-10 games

[ember ruin]

I'm not

I've been saying this ever since he signed for Atleti

[vital kernel]

Delusional, because he's Portuguese ofc

I could name 5 better youngsters than felix

[ember ruin]

Go ahead

[vital kernel]

Ok

Haaland mbappe vlaho jude foden pedri

👍🏻

[ember ruin]

vlahovic and foden 😹

AND PAALAND? 😭

[vital kernel]

Vlahovic is top scorer of serie a

Foden is 10x the better player

[ember ruin]

ok

[vital kernel]

Haaland has 16 goals from 18 games, tip scorer of cl last year

[ember ruin]

10x? ??

[vital kernel]

Stfu with ur bias already

Yes

[ember ruin]

It's not bias I'm a afraid

Félix is more talented then 95% of youngsters right now

[vital kernel]

..

[ember ruin]

If he finds his feet he'll be better than anyone mentioned above

[vital kernel]

Sancho is better than felix

👍🏻

[ember ruin]

Even right now Félix is better than Sancho

[vital kernel]

This was sancho second professional year, felix has never got these numbers

[ember ruin]

ok

But

Right now

Félix is better than sancho

[vital kernel]

Maybe

But

Felix isn't a top 7 youngster yet

[ember ruin]

Will be soon imo

[normal idol]

why did you air me :hopeless:

[tardy eagle]

Where are these numbers outside bundesliga

[vital kernel]

?

[tardy eagle]

no way you think Sancho is better, Felix showed him levels in 2 matches this season

[tardy eagle]

Felix had 15 goals and 9 assists in 26 games 18/19

[vital kernel]

😱😱😱😱😱

[vital kernel]

30>24

[tardy eagle]

played less games

[vital kernel]

Fair but sancho has top 5 assists over the past 4 seasons in europe

Consistency.

Man had 36+ for 3 seasons

*g/a

[runic cipher]

Lol let’s calm down. Sancho is a big flop

[vital kernel]

And again it's not all about ga

[vital kernel]

?

Felix was double of what sancho costed

Did worse in his first season

[tardy eagle]

no

[runic cipher]

La Liga is much harder than the Bundesliga

[vital kernel]

"SANCHO BIG FLOP"!!!!

[vital kernel]

I'm talking about pl and la liga g

[tardy eagle]

both Statements are false

[vital kernel]

And it's not like sandho owned atleti in 18-19

[vital kernel]

Ok

[runic cipher]

Bundesliga is a easy league, now Sancho is in a hard league he can’t do anything😂

[vital kernel]

Yeah ucl exists

[runic cipher]

What has he done in the UCL?

[vital kernel]

Owned atleti?

[tardy eagle]

he lost

[runic cipher]

Lol mans highlight is a good game against another club, I thought u was gonna drop statistics on me or sumn💀

[vital kernel]

Massive flop

[vital kernel]

4-0 he won??

[runic cipher]

He’s still been a flop

[vital kernel]

Ahahaha

[runic cipher]

Hasn’t lived up to the price tag whatsoever

[vital kernel]

Shut up

[vital kernel]

Felix costed 126m

[tardy eagle]

He has 1 win in 4 games against Atleti. but he owns us 😂

[runic cipher]

You’re just too biased to see it because you’re a Dortmund fan

[vital kernel]

What in the world has he done

For 130m

[runic cipher]

U got owned by Rangers anyway😂

[vital kernel]

He wasn't even at the club lad

[runic cipher]

In UEL

💀

[vital kernel]

Spewing absolute bullshit

[tardy eagle]

won a league title

[runic cipher]

The score was 4-2 to Rangers, you got owned

[vital kernel]

Man's saying
"You got owned bt rangers"

Sancho was in united

You have no basis on anything

[runic cipher]

Anyone can look good in the Bundesliga, look at Werner

[vital kernel]

I gave you stats, you changed the topic

[runic cipher]

When he’s in a serious league neither of them done anything

[vital kernel]

You're massive troll

[runic cipher]

He’s a flop, end of

[vital kernel]

Like dennis yeag

[vital kernel]

Fairs g

Massive flop!!! 😱😱🙀

[runic cipher]

Man lost 4-1 yesterday😂 your team can’t stop conceding 4 goals in one game

[vital kernel]

How's that relevant to sancho

Are you dumb

[runic cipher]

Ah mans using insults now, 100% triggered

[vital kernel]

The fact that sancho exceeds felix in 9/15 stats in his first season

[runic cipher]

Bundesliga is a easy league

[vital kernel]

But gets called a massive flop by discord user and only prem watcher tredwed

[vital kernel]

Dumbo it's pl stats

[runic cipher]

Mans tryna compare La Liga to Bundesliga like they’re the same quality

[runic cipher]

Insults again😂 try to talk without insulting

[vital kernel]

My man

You're blind

[vital kernel]

Frankfurt 2-1 Betis

Leverkusen 4-0 Betis

Bayern 3-0 Barcelona

Leipzig 3-1 Sociedad

😱😱🙀😱🙀

[runic cipher]

And what about you guys? 4-2 loss vs Rangers in the UEL😭

[vital kernel]

Ok?

That's one team out of 18

😭

[runic cipher]

Also what happened yesterday

Your club is just declining lmao

[vital kernel]

How's that relevant to sancho/felix/la ligas quality

[runic cipher]

Losing your best player, not a single good defender in sight

[vital kernel]

Ok?

[vital kernel]

.

Exactly

Shut up, you're spewing bullshit

[runic cipher]

How can someone get so upset over a discord server😂 what a baby

[vital kernel]

You didn't answer my question

[runic cipher]

So that’s the only reason why you’ve been crying for the past 10 mins?

[vital kernel]

Massive flop in pl exceeding harder league player joao felix!!

Come with a constructive arguement not dumb bs

[runic cipher]

Dumb bs? I mean everything I’ve said is true, didn’t you lose 4-2 to Rangers & 4-1 to Leipzig yesterday?

[vital kernel]

How's that relevant to sancho felix or la liga

😭😭😭😭

[runic cipher]

Yeah you’re 100% upset rn, I’ve already said that Sancho hasn’t lived up to his price tag which is true

[vital kernel]

💀

[prisma swift]

sancho ain't a flop,but he hasn't been great either

i believe end product will come by his second season

[runic cipher]

Sancho was brought to make Man U title contenders

He hasn’t done nothing to warrant his price tag

[vital kernel]

He still has better stats than felix who costed 126m

[prisma swift]

rn he has a high xA but the man utd forward suck

[vital kernel]

And this guy is saying

He's been a flop

But felix has been great

[runic cipher]

Well what do you call a player that hasn’t lived up to his price tag?

[vital kernel]

And brings up dortmund losing, like that's relevant

[runic cipher]

You’re just biased to Dortmund

[vital kernel]

Felix costed 126m bro?

[prisma swift]

he only is superior in the dribbling stats and SCA

[tardy eagle]

felix won a league title. sancho will play conference league. we not the same

[prisma swift]

which was supposed to be expected

[vital kernel]

Here

[prisma swift]

don't repost the same stats 20 times

[runic cipher]

Lol exactly

[vital kernel]

It's meant to make someone understand and this guy brings dortmund losing

[runic cipher]

How is this guy tryna say Sancho has lived up to his price tag

😭

Bias on another level

[vital kernel]

Felix did as much as dembele in 2018

[vital kernel]

Players take time

Not just first season

[runic cipher]

Like Werner right, “GiVe hIm TiMe”

[prisma swift]

he has better SCA and dribbling stats,thats it
while i do rate sancho and felix,both could become marginally better,and sancho never lost the creativity he had at dortmund,the forwards with him are worse than BVB's,simple as

[vital kernel]

And it's not like felix has been great for 126m

126m>75m

[prisma swift]

nah,don't disrespect felix for the sake of sancho,he has been good too

[runic cipher]

Only thing you can do is compare Sancho to Felix, your agenda must be high

[vital kernel]

Im not saying felix is bad

[runic cipher]

Both haven’t lived up to the price tag, end of lmao

[vital kernel]

I'm saying that calling sancho a flop and praising felix is bs

And his point was " dortmund losing 4-1 to leipzjg and 4-2 to rangers"

[prisma swift]

based on current form,im taking felix over sancho,despite both players not even playing the same position

[runic cipher]

I mean you did lose right?

[vital kernel]

How's that relevant bro

Like how

[prisma swift]

you could compare felix to peus
and felix is miles clear of peus

[tardy eagle]

He had played 31 games. 7 goals 6 assists and also was la liga potm

[runic cipher]

It’s not relevant but it still has to be mentioned

[vital kernel]

That shows how important he wa to was

[vital kernel]

For what reason!

[runic cipher]

Because it shows how low quality Bundesliga is compared to other leagues

[vital kernel]

What

@runic cipher when did you start watching football

[tardy eagle]

@vital kernel

[vital kernel]

Dennis gets better stats smh

[runic cipher]

I’ve watched for a very long time. Guessing you, you started watching from 2020

[vital kernel]

Nah g you only spoke this seasons results

[tardy eagle]

Ironic

[prisma swift]

dennis has better stats than reus....

[vital kernel]

Real Madrid lost to sherrif!!

La liga so bad!!

[runic cipher]

Why can’t you admit that Sancho has been underwhelming😂

[prisma swift]

is he better now?

[vital kernel]

No

[runic cipher]

What’s so hard about that

Shows ur bias

[vital kernel]

It's his first season

[prisma swift]

more league G/A?

[ripe field]

more like real madrid are so bad

[runic cipher]

Lmao so so biased. Man can’t admit anything

[prisma swift]

warra trophy!

[vital kernel]

This idiot said bl is bad bcz dortmund lost

[ripe field]

dortmund is trash

[vital kernel]

9 goals and 7 assists?

[runic cipher]

Exactly lol

[vital kernel]

Doesn't make the league bad

We're shit ik

[runic cipher]

I had to remind him of that and mans been crying

[ripe field]

fair

a shit dortmund was giving competition to bayern

[vital kernel]

Man brought

Dortmund losses

[ripe field]

also bl games are entertaining

[vital kernel]

Into a sancho- felix argument

[runic cipher]

I mean you lost 4-1 yesterday, it’s still relevant

[vital kernel]

..

[runic cipher]

Nah they’re not

[vital kernel]

.

[fading ember]

What’s Bundesliga got to do with la liga

[grave glen]

barca is now 4th

[grave glen]

🚪 here buddy away you go : #bundesliga

[ripe field]

i thought this was lobby smh

[grave glen]

ur on pills

[ripe field]

can't blame me tbf

the talk was about buli

and dortmund

and la liga being shit

[grave glen]

cringe

off to "buli" LOL

[pulsar sundial]

whats the best league

[ripe field]

la liga

[pulsar sundial]

lol

[grave glen]

another prem merchant visiting la liga chats

[pulsar sundial]

im not a prem merchant

[grave glen]

mozzy, atletico madrid beat your precious premier league team over two legs, the team that has spent the most cash last 10 years

[pulsar sundial]

bro what 😭😭

[grave glen]

premier league is an overrated bs

[pulsar sundial]

i don’t support the pl

what are u on

let alone a english side

[grave glen]

im on la liga pills

very good

[pulsar sundial]

i support real

[grave glen]

good

[pulsar sundial]

bro im the modric>anyothermid guy

[grave glen]

sorry im suffering from prem merchant syndrome

they are everywhere

[pulsar sundial]

^

[grave glen]

koke > busquets

[vital kernel]

L

[pulsar sundial]

idk bout that one

case > koke and bus

[grave glen]

last years

[pulsar sundial]

modric too

[grave glen]

prime busquets is one of the best midfielders of all time

[vital kernel]

Facts

Top 5 cdms oat easily

[pulsar sundial]

wtf koke is only 30

[grave glen]

but busi aint on his prime now though

Koke is dope

[vital kernel]

"Only"?

[pulsar sundial]

yes only

[vital kernel]

[grave glen]

Koke the only player to have been on both atletico title winning sides

banger capi koke

[vital kernel]

Savic?

[grave glen]

nope

dont think so

came in 2015

2014 had godin and miranda

[vital kernel]

Oh

[grave glen]

josema perhaps

but i think josema came after not sure

[vital kernel]

I remember godins header vs barca

[pulsar sundial]

i swear i feel like koke has been playing for like 10 years

[grave glen]

Godin 🥵

Godin one of the top 5 defenders of the 2010s

so disrespected and underrated

he was balling

Godin, Ramos, Pique, Varane and Chiellini top 2010 CBs

maybe Hummels or Boateng as honorable mention

[pale geode]

What about VVD?

[grave glen]

VVD broke the scene late 2010s

[pale geode]

VVD 2019 alone is above most people on this list

[grave glen]

like what was his greatest year so far, 2018?

the ones i mentioned dominated the decade

[grave glen]

Rn?

if real REALly fuck up barca have a chance to win the league

but VVD is class im not denying that

[grave glen]

yes

[pale geode]

Yeah but like if we go by peak

[grave glen]

Definitely not

[grave glen]

definitely hot (yes)

[pale geode]

How many of them had a better peak than VVD

[grave glen]

I cant put VVD on the top 5 2010s knowing he came to the elite in 2018

maybe for 2020s

but not for 2010s

[normal idol]

with the referees they have, there is no chance

[grave glen]

same reason i cant put Lucio for example

[ripe field]

this

[grave glen]

who has absolutely class early 2010s

[ripe field]

WSM

[grave glen]

but wasnt consistent through all the decade

[normal idol]

the robbery at balaidos yesterday was a shame

[grave glen]

which is waht im looking at

[pale geode]

We had 3 penalties all of last season give us a break

[grave glen]

and covid season u had pens every fixture

[pale geode]

Nobody was yelling robbery when Valencia got 3 pens against us last year

[ripe field]

because only 1 wasn't fair

but 1 was only fair in yesterday's game

[grave glen]

the third penalty is an absolute joke lets be frank here

[ripe field]

the militao one especially

[pale geode]

Mendy one was more undeserved tbh

[grave glen]

xavi in the dressing room giving the players samples of messis blood

[normal idol]

bru its obvious

arbitrid

[grave glen]

Mendy literally jumps into the defender and puts his leg on a standing defender

that game the requisite for a pen was basically "touch madrid player, fall"

its ridiculous

they didnt oversee intent, and the manner in which the contact occurs

and the most blatantly shameless part of all is that they didnt even check var

for any of the situations

like come on

[gloomy badger]

Yeah Felix, mbappe, haaland, not sure about the rest

[grave glen]

Did they even check VAR

I don’t remember them checking

no

id say the top 5 youngsters are mbappe, haaland, felix, pedri and whatever overrated lad the prem is trying to sell

Declan rice for 150M 😹😹😹

oh and vini too

he has had a great season i have to admit

even if im atletico fan

[gloomy badger]

I just can't with prem man 😹

[tardy eagle]

foden is also top 5 imo

[grave glen]

ye foden is good

[tardy eagle]

I dont know man

without benzema he looks like the vini from the past years

[grave glen]

mm could be

that will be shown whenever benz retires

i havent even liked vini for a long time always bantered about him

but his season this year has been top

14 goals and i think like 8-10 assists? complementing very well with karim

messi tryna lower his cost so barca can buy him back

Nah

Don’t think I want him anymore

He can come as a board member tho

[vital kernel]

He's not top 5 bro

[worldly beacon]

w

[shy dragon]

no

they didnt for the pens

[shy dragon]

top 3 imo
better than ansu and maybe pedri

[worldly beacon]

Coz that waa clear pen

[shy dragon]

Nolito: "Celta Vigo were absolutely disrespected today."

Iago Aspas: "The only thing missing was for the referee to take one of the penalties he gave them himself."

Fran Beltrán: "We have VAR right there in front of our eyes… and we don't use it."

https://tenor.com/view/drogba-drogba-disgrace-disgrace-gif-18837137

[worldly beacon]

No need to waste time on VAR use when pen is clear

[shy dragon]

wtf it wasn't

the mendy was never a pen

[worldly beacon]

He said that to u💀 💀

[shy dragon]

ik

but it apllies peprfectly here

[worldly beacon]

Contact happened clearly

[dusky stream]

Félix???
The disrespect to Wirtz and Foden is incredible right now, it’s getting mind boggling ridiculous

[topaz osprey]

camp nou sold out for today's game against Sevilla

let's go

Xavi ball is back

[dusky stream]

Félix is not a top 5 U23 player

[vital kernel]

Exactly

[vital kernel]

Jude pedri

[dusky stream]

Tchouameni

[topaz osprey]

parsing media rated players with hype is the worst thing about Premier League

[dusky stream]

It’s simply pure ignorance that people are forgetting about the likes of Donnarumma, Tchouameni, Wirtz, etc

[dusky stream]

Well suddenly the La Liga guys here are doing it

Ahh go on, it’s a Sunday

[topaz osprey]

wel if one is doing that's doesn't mean all are doing

I agree

felix isn't worth the hype

Gavi is 1000 times better consider the transition season and his debut season

boy is going to win golden boy sooner or later

[dusky stream]

I don’t even look at the ‘transition season’ or ‘debut’ season

[topaz osprey]

I get it Gavi is joy to watch

[dusky stream]

I just compare against the whole cohort because being the best U18 player doesn’t make you elite.

[topaz osprey]

I simply love him

Gavi is better than Leo at 17 years old

but that doesn't mean he should score tons of goals and assist cause his position is different

but some clueless fans only take goals and assist as the comparison criteria

[dusky stream]

No

[vital kernel]

Musiala?

[shy dragon]

💀

whats the felix agenda here

@bleak swallow

[dusky stream]

Musiala is a far better player than Felix is

[shy dragon]

stop sneaking in bundesliga players

felix is much better

[vital kernel]

Fairs

[shy dragon]

irish...

has felix agenda

[dusky stream]

For a midfielder, that's very, very good

[vital kernel]

He's p young too

[shy dragon]

haaland, foden, felix

can't change my mind

[dusky stream]

Vini??? This is some next level bias here

[shy dragon]

musiala doesn't even start

and you guys want to compare him with felix

atleti's best player rn

[vital kernel]

Sofascore 💪🏻

[dusky stream]

Musiala has played 13.6 90s in the league
Felix has played 13.2 90s

What is this bullshit?

[vital kernel]

Owned plash

[dusky stream]

categorically wrong

[shy dragon]

bundesliga 🥶

[dusky stream]

Straight up lying to prove a point lmao

[vital kernel]

International football 😱
Champions league 😱

[shy dragon]

felix plays both

[vital kernel]

So does musiala

Musiala scored in a cl ro16 aged 17

[grave glen]

Musiala is clear of Felix

[vital kernel]

Indeed

[grave glen]

both are great ballers

but Musiala ahead thf

tbf

[dusky stream]

And he's good in neither lol

[shy dragon]

was injured..

[vital kernel]

"But he scored vs united" 😱

[shy dragon]

"But he scored vs furth" 😱

[grave glen]

Felix is dead for his NT

[vital kernel]

Jamal Musiala breaks club record! Highlights Lazio Rom vs. FC Bayern 1-4 / FC Bayern München
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jrIRupJ-QE

Stfu plash

[shy dragon]

felix 12 starts: 12 G/A
musiala 11 starts: 8 G/A

[dusky stream]

for a mere 7 matches. He was in the Atletico squad for 22 matches and has only started 12 of them

[dusky stream]

Musiala is a midfielder?

[shy dragon]

lazio 💀

[dusky stream]

What is this nonsense now 🤣

[vital kernel]

Speaking like united are good

[shy dragon]

better than lazio also, felix had a masterclass vs barca and liverpool

[vital kernel]

0h really?

[shy dragon]

not the 4-2

the 2-0 vs barca

best young talent aside from pedri in Laliga

[dusky stream]

??????

Why are you showing just 5 stats?

I showed you 15 relevant stats

[grave glen]

stat obssessed

[shy dragon]

only thing vini has over felix is goals

[shy dragon]

overall game felix is better

[grave glen]

Atletico's gameplay isn't designed to be scoring huge margins of goals or assists, it doesn't mean felix performances aren't crucial and that his quality isnt there

[dusky stream]

No, he doesn't.
Vinicius is higher for goals, creation numbers, progression through both passing & carrying, and he's a far better dribbler and does more pressing

[grave glen]

its stupid to be comparing teams when they have different tactics

Cholo scores one or two goals and then secures a game

[shy dragon]

exactly

[grave glen]

Vini is a winger, Felix plays as SS

not a good comparison

compare vini with carrasco if you want

[normal idol]

463403511971971087

[grave glen]

that settles the debate, thank you.

[tardy eagle]

Felix is probably the most overhated player in the world

We love him, and dont forget he cost us 127m, if he was a flop why would we still love him?

[grave glen]

Let them hate on Floppy Felix

we are blessed

aupa atleti

[cosmic parcel]

https://www.espn.com/soccer/blog-transfer-talk/story/4632808/live-transfer-talk-barcelona-to-offer-sergino-dest-as-part-of-deal-to-land-robert-lewandowski

[dusky stream]

You're 4th, calm down lmao

[grave glen]

yes, and in quarter finals eliminating your precious prem team man utd, the team that has spent the most the past 10 years

keep malding

could aswell be second points wise, it aint far from it

stat obsssesed merchant

[dusky stream]

your precious prem team man utd
I don't support MU though?

[grave glen]

your a prem merchant 🙂

[dusky stream]

? I support Barca lmao, and no other team

[grave glen]

okmerchant

[grave glen]

good luck in europa league 🙂

[dusky stream]

Weren't you guys in the UEL in 2012 and 2018?

[grave glen]

yes, we won both those years 🙂

and now we are in CL

and you are in EL

so again, good luck!

[dusky stream]

In what way?

When fit, he's a very good winger. His issue has always been availability, not quality

[grave glen]

Dembélés second issue besides his terrible fitness is his attitude

the lad is a bit lazy in trainings, comes late and so on

but yes, when fit and in form he is world class

very pacey, good at assisting, dribbling + speed

fantastic player when he wants to

[dusky stream]

Players should be evaluated over useful sample sizes, like a season or a few seasons, not a 5 games streak

[grave glen]

against madrid he was doing whatever he wanted to Nacho

the way his pace and movements opened up the madrid defense was a joy to watch

[pearl steeple]

If I could get 10 euro everytime a player is linked with Barcelona I wouldn't need to have a job anymore

[tardy eagle]

3rd

or are u overconfident that barca win v seville?

[dusky stream]

Well, we have two games in hand, Sevilla have a game in hand on Atletico

[ripe plover]

Fati needs to stay fit ffs

[plain elbow]

Granada 💀

Rayo lead 0–1

GOAL

0-2 Rayo

[late kernel]

Lmao

Granada could face relegation at this rate man

[plain elbow]

Scored by Sergi Guardiola

Granada are having a nightmare atm.

Nearly three, Palazon

Close Nteka

Maximiano double save

Off the post, Valencia

[grave glen]

Palazon is fantastic

Maximiano probably the best GK out of the bottom league teams

happy rayo is back at their beauty football

[plain elbow]

WHAT A SAVE

Mamardashvili

Should’ve been 0-1 Cadiz

[grave glen]

good game?

im watching roma and rayo

might switch to valencia

mamardashvili has potential

[plain elbow]

Valencia v Cadiz has been quiet

But Mamardashvili’s save from moments ago was extraordinary.

[grave glen]

negredo header right?

im watching now

[plain elbow]

Yep

[grave glen]

i dont like maxi gomez

misses a lot

guedes is flashiing too much with those backheels lol

[plain elbow]

Granada are playing a brand of football in which they have little to no mastery of.

Too direct, and the high line is killing them.

They’ll get relegated if they stick with the interim manager, I reckon.

[grave glen]

they'll relegate for sure

my bets are alaves, granada and cadiz

the teams that offer the worst football

I really hope levante can turn it around because they play beauty football sometimes

nice fans too

same for mallorca, they have an awful run rn

but they have an okay squad, and do offer some good play asometimes

[plain elbow]

Out of all the teams down there, Cadiz and Levante have the hardest fixture runs.

Granada need a manager now. It could end up paying off.

Options are scarce. The rumors are all pointing towards Pepe Mel.

[grave glen]

Levante tend to play better against harder teams

they're kind of like atletico in that sense

lol

then they lose points against direct rivals

[plain elbow]

On paper, they’ve got some hard fixtures left at home.

[grave glen]

rayo red

💀

[plain elbow]

Double yellow within just two minutes

Lol

[thin ivy]

hope sevilla plays well

[plain elbow]

Granada got one back, btw.

Granada pen

Bloody hell

Goal

2-2

Milla

+9

Off the post, Jorge Molina

Nearly 3-2

FT

Granada 2-2 Rayo Vallecano

Valencia 0-0 Cadiz

[worldly beacon]

yes

[grave glen]

sad for rayo

rayo finna be battling for relegation in the last fixtures if they continue like this

[half iris]

New Barcelona Edit 🇪🇸

[grave glen]

Poor Kalo

He's a manchester united fan

[slender olive]

https://twitter.com/BarcaUniversal/status/1510731360515809297

Barça Universal (@BarcaUniversal)

Xavi: "I appreciate Lopetegui's words, but we are not the best team in Europe. We're not even in the Champions League. We're playing well and getting good results, but our reality is different today."

Twitter · Apr 3, 2022, 9:29 PM

fax

[wheat spire]

Humility

[tulip glade]

united fan:

[toxic hinge]

We would’ve been like 10-9 points behind Vardrid if the refs weren’t on their side like usual 😭

[half iris]

And we’re not annoying

(Minus Ibrahim maybe)

[slender olive]

the only W from bartomeu im telling you

is Pedri's signing

and maybe the rise of femeni

[honest umbra]

Hes back to yanited

[toxic hinge]

And frenkie

[slender olive]

yeah

tbh suarez too

[red knot]

We overpaid for Suarez

Still a good signing

[slender olive]

Nah

Suarez is priceless

[red knot]

Im not saying he wasn’t worth it

But wasn’t his release clause like 40m+

And we paid 75m

[sinful roost]

you are 9 points behind if you win the game in hand

[red knot]

That we paid more than we were asked to

That’s all

Im not saying he’s shit

Im not saying he worth it

Im not understating his status as a club legend

Im not undermining any of his achievements for Barcelona

I am just saying we paid way over what we were asked to pay

[slender olive]

warra results

you love to see it

Yeah

We deserved to win against Sevilla in the away game, too

We bottled leads against Granada and Osasuna

Same with Espanyol

if we had won those we'd be top

[sand gate]

it’s extra time, who’s taking it?

Because he has 57 FK goals

Idk with juve

I watch rma

Nah I saw a highlight of him scoring one with juve

Vs Torino

Yea

[toxic hinge]

This tho ^^ 😭😭

[slender olive]

LMAO\

[tropic dome]

Pedri for ballondor

[pale geode]

Didn’t Barca fans want De Jong sold earlier in the season lol

[slender olive]

Never

[desert saddle]

very nice

now let me quickly check league positions and point deficit

[toxic hinge]

Had to bring the league pos cuz you know it’s true

[desert saddle]

what is the most important aspect though

we know our coach is shit

I want him sacked

but he is on course to winning the league

so he is doing some things right

[toxic hinge]

???????????

we’re not talking about coaches pal

[desert saddle]

and also one El Clasico does not define whole season

[kind crescent]

me when the the when of the when the when the when of the me

[desert saddle]

Carlo decided to play that stupid formation because Benzema was out

and also played Nacho because no Mendy

[toxic hinge]

Still got schooled

Lmao

[desert saddle]

maybe but I am very certain it wouldve not been 4-0 with those 2

unless Carlo tried Mendy in goal

point is we are still comfortable where we are at

Sevilla game is going to show if we can clinch the title vs Atletico

[toxic hinge]

you won the league either way lmfao

[desert saddle]

not too confident with this coach

im expecting bashing from Chelsea

[toxic hinge]

Idek how this bumchelotti ball actually worked out to win the league

[desert saddle]

well lots of individual brilliance

not much competition

and at times he got things right

he should be thanking heavens for being first

[slender olive]

And the opposition was not good

We were down in the dumps

[desert saddle]

if he wasnt, he wouldve been 100% sacked after El Clasico

[slender olive]

Atletico were extremely unconvincing

If you had to contend with Xavi’s Barca from the start we’d probably be first by a big margin tbh

[toxic hinge]

That fraud bro

Ffs

he made us look like we were actually finished 💩

[desert saddle]

Ancelotti is making us look like we are finished

now I wish we kept Zidane

[toxic hinge]

RMA fans want Xabi I heard

[desert saddle]

I mean

only recency biased ones do

but lots want Poch

[toxic hinge]

Poch? 😭😭😭

[desert saddle]

there isnt many choices

I dont want Poch

[plain elbow]

I’m close to convinced that Xabi Alonso will turn out to be a good manager.

[desert saddle]

we shouldnt be gambling with him

not everyone is Zidane

[toxic hinge]

I’m zidane

I can turn Celta Vigo into the biggest club in Spain in the span of 4 years

[plain elbow]

Xabi taking over whenever Alguacil leaves sounds ideal. Or, a short tenure at a mid table to lower end Bundesliga club that’s willing to take the gamble with him.

[desert saddle]

I want Xabi to get experience in top flight

maybe Sociedad

[toxic hinge]

Aleggri was supposed to be the Real Madrid coach 😭

[desert saddle]

all I know is Carlo is surely staying for another year if we win the league

thank god Juve saved us

[plain elbow]

I enjoyed Xabi Alonso’s videos on The Coaches’ voice.

He was always astute as a player, and the variety of systems that he played in back in the day could potentially boost him here.

[desert saddle]

maybe but its too early for him to go to a club like Real Madrid

[toxic hinge]

I mean

Xavi came from qatar

inexperienced manager

And look how he’s doing rn

unbeaten in the last 14 games

[plain elbow]

Xabi is in a relegation battle with La Real B rn, but his underlying numbers have been fine.

37W-23D-29L

[hybrid hatch]

imo we won’t win the league next season

[desert saddle]

well its still a gamble