la-liga

[dusky garden]

Don’t pull the “it was at camp nou” card

[devout geyser]

Barca always played better at home in Europe than away

Valverde said they would play as if its 0-0 in 2nd leg vs Liverpool

he let Liverpool play their game

and it cost him

of course players also deserve a blame

[dusky garden]

The defense cost him

[devout geyser]

not just the defense

where was attack

midfield

[dusky garden]

Your one of those people that call him out in losses but don’t give credit when he won.

[devout geyser]

nowhere

[dusky garden]

I can’t debate with your kind

[devout geyser]

he coached my team

and he did this type of things with us as well

I remember he made Muniain play LWB once

[dusky garden]

In what match?

Friendly or La liga

[devout geyser]

dont remember but it was 1 of the seasons he was here in, probably the 15/16 season

[devout geyser]

La Liga

[dusky garden]

Was he secured for top 4 in la liga? Because managers usually try new tactics or positions in friendlys or when they are secured for top 4 la liga

[devout geyser]

not really

[dusky garden]

Hm

What position does Munain usually play?

[devout geyser]

we finished 5th in 15/16

[devout geyser]

LW or 2nd ST

[dusky garden]

Bruh

[devout geyser]

playing him in more defensive role did not suit us

[dusky garden]

15/16 was MSN era with iniesta and dani

[devout geyser]

so?

[dusky garden]

Not bad 5th place

[devout geyser]

yeah but like, we were pragmatic

[dusky garden]

Barcelona were killing teams

Before that. Did y’all get any higher than 5th?

[devout geyser]

we beat Barca 4-0 at San Mames that season

[devout geyser]

yes

in 2014

[dusky garden]

Under who?

[devout geyser]

well it was under Valverde but the squad he had was basically Bielsa's

[dusky garden]

Valverde underrated

I swear

[devout geyser]

we finished 3rd in our CL group

😐

[dusky garden]

Oh lmao

Pressure was high for him

[devout geyser]

again Valverde has done good things for Valverde

both as a player and manager

but football he showed us as a manager was straight up horseshit

[dusky garden]

Truly disagree

[devout geyser]

how come

thing is

[dusky garden]

He was an amazing manager. He did well with your club

[devout geyser]

Bielsa got us 12th in his last season

but got us to UEL final and CDR final

(we lost both of course)

but at least we played attractive football

but idk

[dusky garden]

Attractive football or not

Win is what matters

[devout geyser]

yeah

but he tried bringing Bilbao tactics to Barcelona

and that failed him ultimately

[dusky garden]

He went 36 games unbeaten in a row

He got far into champions winning both 1st leg

[devout geyser]

he had a great squad though

[dusky garden]

Defense letting him down 2 leg

[devout geyser]

I will say he was better than Setien and Koeman

but did he deserve to remain? no

[dusky garden]

Yes

[dusky garden]

Thank you... I agree

[devout geyser]

because he was killing Barcelona's philosophy

[dusky garden]

I do not agree

[dusky garden]

Bruh how?

[devout geyser]

well thats for you to ask to Barca fans

they know better

[dusky garden]

Let me ask you

What would you define “philosophy”?

[devout geyser]

Barca's?

I guess beautiful way of football

wanna say tiki taka but that hasn't existed since 2013

[dusky garden]

If you say tika taka hasn’t exited since 13. Then Barcelona philosophy was gone after 13

[devout geyser]

barca philosophy wasnt just tiki taka

it was overall playing nice football

not slow pragmatic football that Valverde played

[dusky garden]

So would you rather have “nice football” every season without winning trophies or “ugly” football while winning at least 2 major trophies

[lucid meadow]

the former

nice football will manage to win you trophies

[dusky garden]

As well as “ugly” football

Like I said, to much people about “ugly” football whilst winning trophies

[lucid meadow]

but ugly football will not manage to win you the respect. a team that parks all its busses is always called out for its tactics no matter what they win

[devout geyser]

@lucid meadow team that parks the bus will eventually lose everything

especially with modern football

where even Atleti has to rethink about their tactics

and why Mourinho's philosophy does not work anymore

parking the bus is incredibly hard nowadays

[dusky garden]

Not Madrid vs Liverpool. Simone parked the bus behind their net

[devout geyser]

but they failed that vs Leipzig

can work for 1 game

but fail for another

and they tried that vs Chelsea

and failed

[dusky garden]

I’m just saying... works sometimes

But your right

[lucid meadow]

i want to point out chelsea as well but tuchel is just so class that it doesn’t apply to him

[dusky garden]

Sometimes is not good enough

[lucid meadow]

though he has been on the back foot in some games

[devout geyser]

now small clubs parking the bus is not a shock

because their quality is so low

if they wanna survive

they have to let in less goals

and try scoring some goals

thats why teams like Burnley keep staying up

[lucid meadow]

odd that juventus won 9 scuddettos in a row with defensive football

[dusky garden]

What do y’all think about corona from Porto to Sevilla??

[devout geyser]

nice signing

[dusky garden]

Agreed. Corona underrated

[devout geyser]

thats mainly down to Inter and Milan sleeping

but there some instances where they nearly lost them

like in 17/18 vs Napoli

in 19/20 vs Inter

[lucid meadow]

yeah but they also had european success with their football

guess there are exceptions everywhere

[cobalt stump]

Corona a great signing for them. A really good player

[frank robin]

yh

good signing

[dark yacht]

god signing

I mean god

[frank robin]

umm

[dusky garden]

[stiff fjord]

very good signing for sevilla

Definitely a good replacement for fraud ocampos

[tender delta]

Yes

[dark yacht]

yes

[dark yacht]

they don't even play in the same position what are you thinking of Tecatito is just a Jesus Navas replacement cuz Jesus Navas is old

[stiff fjord]

rm rw same thing

[dark yacht]

Have you ever seen Messi play RM in a 352 or some sort???

[stiff fjord]

bro idfk leave me 😭 I'm tired

[dark yacht]

ok

[normal idol]

CVC

CVCV

CVCV

@devout geyser

u betrayed all of us

[cobalt stump]

It went through

[devout geyser]

boys.

we lost.

@cobalt stump even Oviedo switched

[cobalt stump]

Oviedo switched too?

So it’s only the 3 clubs??

[devout geyser]

Real Madrid, Barcelona, and Athletic Bilbao were only ones who didn't switch

yup

[cobalt stump]

Damn…

[devout geyser]

Atletico and Sevilla socio votes said they were anti CVC

but clubs decided to be pro CVC

and others followed

even Oviedo

and Rayo

[cobalt stump]

Wow.

Rayo 😭😭😭

[normal idol]

what cou;ld poor oviedo even do?

every segunda team would get extra money

oviedo would have surely been relegated

[devout geyser]

you know whats worse

[normal idol]

if theu wont tka meoney

[cobalt stump]

@devout geyser it’s true we could just opt out tho right?

[devout geyser]

because Real, Barca, and Bilbao decided to go against La Liga and RFEF

they will be talking to court

and will most likely be found guilty

and who knows how bad sanctions will be

[normal idol]

madrid barca athletic womnt get no money

[devout geyser]

no we will get money but it will be forced

[normal idol]

who will get sanction

[devout geyser]

all 3 of us

[normal idol]

not possivke

[cobalt stump]

It’s gonna be tough. Hammers gonna drop on us even harder since it’s the 3 clubs that started this war

[devout geyser]

we are gonna get lots of money against our will

what I fear is, our payback due date might be even earlier than other clubs

[cobalt stump]

This sounds so wrong 😂 like it’s a serious topic but when u put it like that 😂😂

[devout geyser]

no like

I think we gonna get money cut

by like

20%

of what we were gonna get originally

and probably gonna have shorter time to do anything with it

[cobalt stump]

Damn.

Well, we’re gonna have to use it up then right?

[devout geyser]

yeah

[normal idol]

U WONT GET MONEY

THEY LITERALLY SIAD THAT

U WONT GET

[devout geyser]

we will but way less than others

[normal idol]

earlier they saiud u woill

[devout geyser]

if they leave us without money, they will look bad publicly

[cobalt stump]

I think the smartest move would be to make signings or updates to the arenas and all that that we could actually afford then. I hope to see no teams go out and spending big on players they won’t be able to afford 3 years from now

[normal idol]

they cant bruv

they rae allowed only to spend

[devout geyser]

who said that

[alpine socket]

who will look bad?

[devout geyser]

RFEF

[normal idol]

15 %

[devout geyser]

and Tebas

[normal idol]

on players

will be spent

other 85 % to go intp infrastuctural

[alpine socket]

Lool, you really think Tebas cares about public opinion 😂😂

[devout geyser]

fair point

[devout geyser]

clubs are stupid

[cobalt stump]

How many weeks u think it takes for Tebas to be in a hospital after running into some la Liga fans in the streets

[devout geyser]

I can easily see them do something wrong

plus

if we 3 get no money

that might be better for us in long term

[cobalt stump]

@devout geyser any riots yet?

[devout geyser]

short term, that would be awful

[devout geyser]

no not really

[cobalt stump]

That’s good

[normal idol]

it is a rule i believe

[normal idol]

u could get relegated athletic

[cobalt stump]

@devout geyser u live in Spain right?

[devout geyser]

there was also a rule saying no foreign investing into La Liga

but La Liga themselves broke that rule

[devout geyser]

yes

its actually pretty silent

[cobalt stump]

Well if riots do start at some point, stay safe my guy 🙏🏻

[devout geyser]

I will

[normal idol]

lmao

[devout geyser]

I just cant believe this will go through

[cobalt stump]

And beat the living shit out of Tebas if u see him anywhere

[devout geyser]

Tebas isnt even allowed in Basque Country

if he stepped even one foot in

he would get beaten up

he is a public enemy here

[cobalt stump]

Shouldn’t be allowed in Spain period 😤

[normal idol]

and if abascal steps? 😂

[devout geyser]

others wont really care

but Tebas would have a beating out of his shit

if he stepped here

[normal idol]

strange enough

personally i would have beaten abascal more

i like to calll him a-rascal

[cobalt stump]

Lmao

[devout geyser]

Abascal is seen as a dickhead but because he tried changing things for the better for city of Bilbao

his critics kind of cooled off

[normal idol]

did he

i dont know man

u live so

u must be knowing

[devout geyser]

idk tbh, I dont really like politics

[normal idol]

im noob

fr

not much soanish public likes

i believe

spanish politics is usually ugly

so much polarisation

we saw in madrid election as well

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[devout geyser]

@normal idol truth is

La Liga itself is kind of like politics

overall Spanish football

[normal idol]

LMAO

?

LMAO

IKR

[devout geyser]

El Clasico's roots come from politics

[normal idol]

fr

can be said about
otro clasico as well

[devout geyser]

yeah

[stiff fjord]

Real Madrid used to be owned by some royal people in spain

[devout geyser]

well thats why they are called Real Madrid

Real means Royal in Spanish

[stiff fjord]

Yeah

[normal idol]

??

are u ok

it is fan-owned

SORRYT

[devout geyser]

he said used to

[normal idol]

SORRY

SORRY

[devout geyser]

not rn

[normal idol]

SORRY

[cobalt stump]

Lol “used” to 😂😂😂

[devout geyser]

oof

[stiff fjord]

.

lmao

[cobalt stump]

Bruh he just got muted

[stiff fjord]

Don't worry

its for a couple of mins

like 1 or 3

[devout geyser]

15 actually

[cobalt stump]

Lol I’ve never been muted. Does anything happen other than just not being able to talk?

[devout geyser]

well

[stiff fjord]

you get 1 punisher point

[devout geyser]

you lose rank points

[stiff fjord]

and you lose value

[cobalt stump]

Punisher pts? Is there a punishment if you reach a certain amount?

[knotty yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/tmzka-bale-football-sports-watching-gif-17666417

Bale 2019/20 highlights

[stiff fjord]

10 is a ban that has to be voted by staff

permanent ban

[cobalt stump]

Damn

[devout geyser]

most of of the value I lost was because of inactivity

[cobalt stump]

I see a lot of people getting muted regularly 😂 wonder how close they are

[stiff fjord]

Most of mine were mutes

I had 9 points once

[cobalt stump]

So they go away then?

[stiff fjord]

Yes

I think it changed but they remove 1 each month

[cobalt stump]

Interesting

[stiff fjord]

The time I had 9 it was like 2 each month

[cobalt stump]

Damn lol

Lot of arguments huh 😂

[devout geyser]

well

[stiff fjord]

nah I was trolling

[devout geyser]

Premier League fans and La Liga fans REALLY like to argue a lot with each other

[stiff fjord]

I remember I used to bait everyone

[cobalt stump]

Yes I can’t stand them 😐 damn Prem fans

[devout geyser]

Bundesliga fans argue with basically entire server

because Bayern

Serie A fans are quiet

[stiff fjord]

it is only taj and ady

[knotty yacht]

Cause nothing is going on there

[plain elbow]

lads, today is the day!

[devout geyser]

what day

[cobalt stump]

The other day when like an army of La Liga fans came to argue with Prem fans was fun 😂😂

[plain elbow]

the league returns

[stiff fjord]

Getafe vs Valencia

[cobalt stump]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-baby-goal-funny-face-gif-13347383

[knotty yacht]

Yeah

[stiff fjord]

Relegation candidates

[devout geyser]

Valencia vs Getafe

yikes.

[plain elbow]

Valencia v Getafe at mestalla at 3pm EST.

[stiff fjord]

Hopefully 1-1 draw

[devout geyser]

Bordalas already facing his former club

im predicting 1-1

[cobalt stump]

I don’t get to watch 😭😭 I start work right when it starts

[devout geyser]

dont bother

probably gonna be a snoozefest

[plain elbow]

bundesliga and the premier league are also kicking off simultaneously at around the same time.

[stiff fjord]

Yep

I'll be doing something during that time

[devout geyser]

Real Madrid should have an easy job vs Alaves

[stiff fjord]

so can't watch

[cobalt stump]

I want to watch as much la Liga as possible this season before the cvc deal starts hurting

[devout geyser]

Barca vs Sociedad will be interesting

[plain elbow]

ah, what a shame. Fridays have been my off days for a while now.

[stiff fjord]

2-1 barca imo

[cobalt stump]

Real have a really easy first month so it’s a good time for our new defense to start clicking

[knotty yacht]

Expect like a 3-1 win for Barca

Pretty comfortably

[devout geyser]

idk man

[stiff fjord]

They'll probably get relegated

[cobalt stump]

Imma say first game without Messi hurts and it’s a 2-2 draw

[devout geyser]

will Messi leaving affect the team

[devout geyser]

I also went for 2-2 draw

[stiff fjord]

Barcelona is going to do better without messi if they get a proper 11

[knotty yacht]

It will but I still think they will be top 4 at least

[stiff fjord]

they don't have to rely on messi

[devout geyser]

Real Madrid got a pretty easy schedule to begin with

[cobalt stump]

Agreed but i think the first lil bit they’ll look bad

[plain elbow]

time to put my dual monitors into action cuz this afternoon is gonna be packed.

Valencia v Getafe
Brentford v Arsenal
Gladbach v Bayern
and Lorient v Monaco

[cobalt stump]

Fr lmao

[devout geyser]

Alaves, Levante, Betis

1st 3 games

[cobalt stump]

Ligue 1 was 🔥 last week

[devout geyser]

Alaves should be easy win

Levante idk

[cobalt stump]

I asked off of work for the Levante match

[devout geyser]

but I guess should still be a win

for Real Madrid

Betis will be harder

but should still be a win for Real

[cobalt stump]

Betis is gonna be good this season

[devout geyser]

also all of those 3 are away games

so if Real can get 9 points out of them

[knotty yacht]

Advantage

[devout geyser]

after that Real play Celta

and no its not at Alfredo Di Stefano

its gonna be at Santiago Bernabeu

[cobalt stump]

People sleeping to much on Madrid outside of La Liga fans

[plain elbow]

macias is probably in line for his debut today

[stiff fjord]

Celta will draw rm

I'm excited for macias

[cobalt stump]

I love him 🔥 I think he’s gonna do great

[knotty yacht]

They’ll be surprised how well our front 3 will do

[cobalt stump]

Facts

[knotty yacht]

I think it will be a breakout season for hazard and bale and obviously benzema

[cobalt stump]

Tho apparently Ancelotti doesn’t wanna start Hazard. He apparently like Vini more so I hope he breaks out

[devout geyser]

last time Real Madrid played at Bernabeu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXlMaWLZx7c

[knotty yacht]

It depends on who’s form is better

[cobalt stump]

Yeah I think Vini is overdue for a breakout tho so I hope he has it this season

[knotty yacht]

He ain’t that bad people just clown him for his finishing

He just needs to improve that and it’s good

[cobalt stump]

Fr

[rigid igloo]

I feel actually

kinda confident

for La Liga

[devout geyser]

I think Bilbao can push for at least top 7

this season

[cobalt stump]

I have them 8th

[normal idol]

LEL

GUYS

am back

[devout geyser]

last season we were incredibly inconsistent

[normal idol]

marcelino oe oe oe

[cobalt stump]

How was ur 15 min break lol

[devout geyser]

beat Sevilla and Atletico just to lose to Elche and Alaves

[cobalt stump]

Bilbao is my potential surprise team tho

[normal idol]

lel paid attention to class for the first time 😂

[normal idol]

elche imo.

or even espanyol

[rigid igloo]

Espanyol I have a feeling will relegate

[cobalt stump]

Espanyol i have no faith in tbh lol I think they’re going right back down

[rigid igloo]

same for Mallorca

I have Rayo staying up

[normal idol]

i think espanyol will finish comfortable 10th

[normal idol]

and rayo will go down

actually espanyol got fucked

because of europle

they had the worst start ever

they will play well

[devout geyser]

I have Mallorca, Elche, and Alaves going down

[knotty yacht]

Pretty fair

[cobalt stump]

Mallorca got Kubo so I think they stay up

[devout geyser]

their defense is awful

[normal idol]

mallorca rayo getafe/granada

[devout geyser]

no

Granada no chance

[normal idol]

alaves have calleja

[devout geyser]

so?

[normal idol]

coach gone

[cobalt stump]

I think our defense starts out slow and that’s why the big point separation between us and Atleti

[normal idol]

calleja has magic

[devout geyser]

thats what they said about Sam Allardyce

in EPL

[knotty yacht]

Yeah but he should’ve chose Sociedad needs to play at higher level

[normal idol]

LMAO CALLEJASAVED VILLARREAL
then gave them europe then was asacked

calleja alone can save anyteam

[cobalt stump]

Yeah I agree. I think he just wanted to go back to Mallorca just Bc that’s where he’s done best at so far

[normal idol]

including mallorca

imo calleja> most coaches in la liga

[knotty yacht]

Ig he was just more comfortable playing there

[normal idol]

el cholo>koeman>lopetegui>alguacil>unai>caleja

(IMO)

[cobalt stump]

La Real he has more competition for that starting spot

[devout geyser]

for me rn

best coach in La Liga is Cholo

[cobalt stump]

I miss Zizou 😭😭😭

[devout geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/tomaa-ahii-celebrating-eat-it-football-gif-16563655

[rigid igloo]

lmao

Simeone always freaks out when he plays us

we live rent free in his head

[knotty yacht]

I actually like simeone

Good coach

[rigid igloo]

yes but his football

[knotty yacht]

Boring but it does the job

[cobalt stump]

Im sick of non-La Liga fans not thinking Sevilla, Villarreal, Betis and others aren’t good and would get mollywhopped in their favorite leagues

Imo Levante>any other 14th place team other than maybe Prem

[knotty yacht]

Yeah like Sevilla Villarreal and Betis will destroy Aston Villa or Leeds they just overrate them

[devout geyser]

people fail to realize how hard playing bottom half teams in La Liga is

especially when they are fighting for survival

Eibar and Valladolid sucked the life out of Barcelona and Atletico on final matchday

[cobalt stump]

It’s super competitive outside the top 3 but everyone just sees the dominance of the top 3

[plain elbow]

propaganda and misinformation instigate trolls to bash teams/league without even watching them tbf.

[knotty yacht]

Like Villarreal literally proved they can challenge English teams

[plain elbow]

did y’all see what Paul Scholes had to say about Villarreal prior to the EL final for instance?

[knotty yacht]

Yet they only talk about the English teams

[cobalt stump]

Prem hella overrated

[devout geyser]

https://i.gyazo.com/2baaec03e9cb13ec5925644085f477a1.png

[halcyon lark]

Always will be because of how popular it is.

[devout geyser]

there is this

embed

ofc

[plain elbow]

https://twitter.com/sportbible/status/1397625051328000009?s=20

SPORTbible (@sportbible)

Paul Scholes 🗣️: "You're playing Villarreal here. You're playing a team that finished seventh in a really poor La Liga."

"Think of Real Madrid and Barcelona, how bad have they been?"

"Manchester United should win this game comfortably."

Retweets

1590

Likes

7747

Twitter · May 26, 2021, 6:45 PM

[devout geyser]

here is PL table

here is La Liga table

you are telling me fucking Newcastle is better than Valencia and Getafe?

[cobalt stump]

Imo Eibar would thrash Sheffield 🤷🏻‍♂️

[plain elbow]

https://twitter.com/MatchoftheDave/status/1397641058457210882?s=20

Jake Gallagher (@MatchoftheDave)

Why didn’t BT Sport have someone on who could give some insight into who Villarreal actually are?

Gerard Moreno has scored 30 goals and made 10 assists now this season but Paul Scholes led me to believe we were playing the Spanish Watford.

Retweets

4954

Likes

32646

Twitter · May 26, 2021, 7:49 PM

[devout geyser]

Atleti would probably lose to Man City

but not by a lot

and on their day, they can beat City

Real Madrid would beat United

Barcelona vs Liverpool, that idk

can go either way

Sevilla vs Chelsea, Chelsea for now

[halcyon lark]

I disagree with Real Madrid

[devout geyser]

?

im talking about last season

[halcyon lark]

Oh last season

[fading ember]

Lol

Deluded English fans

[cobalt stump]

Prem is a lot less competitive that La Liga. You can go into the prem season and relatively easily predict the clubs finished top to bottom. La Liga is way tougher to do that

[devout geyser]

then Sociedad vs Leicester

50/50

and then Betis vs fucking West Ham

[cobalt stump]

Betis would win by 2 or 3

[fading ember]

Last time the prem title race involved more than 2 teams was 2013-14

[devout geyser]

Villarreal vs... Spurs

[cobalt stump]

Fr yet they say it’s “competitive”

[fading ember]

Since then it’s just been a two or one horse race

[devout geyser]

Villarreal would beat Spurs

cant even lie

[fading ember]

Easily lol

[devout geyser]

then Celta vs Arsenal

[cobalt stump]

If there’s a trophy on the line then Tottenham have an actual 0% chance

[pearl bronze]

Given that Villarreal > Man U, it's almost unsporting to put the Spurs next to Villa

[devout geyser]

cant lie

I think Celta would beat Arsenal

[knotty yacht]

Yeah tbh the last 3 years it was or Man City dominating or Liverpool and city being levels above any other team in that league

[devout geyser]

im serious

I see Celta beating Arsenal

[cobalt stump]

I think that’s tougher tho I think that’s another 50/50

[devout geyser]

hmm fair

[fading ember]

Prem fans call other leagues farmer leagues when city or Liverpool finish above the rest by 10-20 points

[devout geyser]

but then you got Granada vs Leeds

[knotty yacht]

Just shows how much they have fallen😂

[devout geyser]

Granada got quarters of UEL

[knotty yacht]

Arsenal

[devout geyser]

beat Napoli

[cobalt stump]

Cadiz vs Newcastle tho

[devout geyser]

honestly I think they would beat Leeds

[knotty yacht]

I think Leeds overrated

[devout geyser]

Bilbao would beat Everton

[knotty yacht]

They weren’t even supposed to be in the championship for so long

[cobalt stump]

They got a great coach but not a great team imo

[fading ember]

Leeds are a bit overrated by people a bit yeah

[devout geyser]

Villa would probably beat Osasuna

[fading ember]

Like people saying they will get top 6

[pearl bronze]

Leeds had a lot of issues after they got relegated TBF

[fading ember]

Leeds will finish mid table only imo

[devout geyser]

Aston Villa would beat Osasuna

that I cant deny

but Newcastle vs fucking Cadiz

[pearl bronze]

It took them over a decade before they finally stabilized IIRC

[devout geyser]

and Valencia vs Wolves

[pearl bronze]

I think Leeds fans are expecting a mid-table finish as well

[hybrid python]

Top 10

[devout geyser]

Levante would thrash Crystal Palace

[pearl bronze]

Crystal Palace is not very good TBH

[hybrid python]

Moraeles hattrick

[cobalt stump]

Facts. Levante would thrash any other 14th place club in the world

[devout geyser]

Getafe would frustrate the living hell out of Southampton

[pearl bronze]

but would they beat them 9-0?

[cobalt stump]

Getafe May even win with their ways of overachieving 😂😂

[devout geyser]

Alaves vs Brighton

you know what

think Alaves wouldnt do too bad

but eh

50/50

[pearl bronze]

Brighton can't score is the thing

[cobalt stump]

Brighton does take that one. They do well on defense

[devout geyser]

imagine being outscored by Joselu

[pearl bronze]

If they had a legit striker, they'd be a solid mid-table side in the EPL

[devout geyser]

Elche vs Burnley

ah

Elche would lose lol

but how much yall wanna bet Huesca would destroy Fulham

[hybrid python]

Elche play beautiful footy

[cobalt stump]

Nah Burnley is possibly the worst side in Prem. They just overachieve

[plain elbow]

brighton are tactically astute, they just lack quality. it’d be interesting to see a team using similar methods as potter’s in la liga.

[knotty yacht]

This is the prem’s “golden era” btw

[devout geyser]

@cobalt stump lets be honest

Huesca would demolish Fulham

[cobalt stump]

Big facts

Not even a debate

[pearl bronze]

Burnley has the lowest budget but they do a lot with what they have

[devout geyser]

Valladolid would walk over West Brom

and Eibar would thrash Sheffield

[cobalt stump]

And Eibar would absolutely dessimate Sheffield

[devout geyser]

if this is peak PL

then yikes

[pearl bronze]

Sheffield just kinda died last year

[devout geyser]

you know what I notice

look at how close relegation battle was in La Liga

compared to PL

where it was decided by Christmas

[pearl bronze]

The relegation battle was shit

[knotty yacht]

Were good 19/20 season but yeah it was expected they will decline

[normal idol]

yo

[cobalt stump]

Yet it’s “competitive”

[halcyon lark]

That was a hard decline though

[devout geyser]

Eibar would also wipe the floor with Schalke

[pearl bronze]

I hated that West Ham and Fullham made it because I knew that was two relegation spots out of the gate

[devout geyser]

West Brom*

[pearl bronze]

I figured it would be a lower-mid table drop though

Not the steep jump off the cliff that ended up happening

[knotty yacht]

Prem fans acting like they taking over

[cobalt stump]

I can’t comment on the serie a tho. I’ve never watched serie a so idk how good their bottom teams really are

[devout geyser]

Valladolid just went on an awful run of form

at the end of the season

I actually thought they would stay up

[pearl bronze]

Well I can comment our relegation battles are more interesting than the EPL's at least

[cobalt stump]

Fair

[rigid igloo]

Spain in achievements always toppled England

on head to head as well

[cobalt stump]

Bundesliga outside their top 6 last season aren’t really that good

[rigid igloo]

Spain's peak was immense

[pearl bronze]

This year is looking to be interesting from a relegation prespective

[knotty yacht]

Tbh they’re still good last season was just unlucky cuz Dortmund were facing Man City which they put up a good fight tbf and Bayern were playing PSG without lewa

[devout geyser]

I dont think La Liga is finished

or at least not yet

if Villarreal could take Chelsea to pens

there is still some firepower left in this league

[pearl bronze]

The only "lock" for relegation is Salernitana since most of their staring 11 last year consisted of loans

[cobalt stump]

I think Bayern is leagues above but BVB, Frankfurt, Leverkusen, and other teams in their top 6 are still really good

[pearl bronze]

Otherwise the other two spots are expected to be between Spezia, Genoa, Torino, Cagliari, Udinese, Venezia and Empoli

[rigid igloo]

give us Premier League's money and we will dominate the world

[cobalt stump]

BVB is still a UCL semi’s contender for sure tho

[pearl bronze]

Title race is also more interesting than EPL

[devout geyser]

last season

on another day

we couldve seen Sevilla win the title

you never know

[pearl bronze]

Or at least was supposed to be but with Inter selling everyone off IDK now

[cobalt stump]

Inter woulda been top 4 for UCL contenders imo if they hadn’t sold everyone

[rigid igloo]

Inter are bottlers though

in UCL

[pearl bronze]

Inter just can't seem to get it together in Europe

They're the opposite of us

[devout geyser]

Roma couldve made the final in 2018

[pearl bronze]

We're a mess domestically (we nearly dropped out of Europe entirely)

[devout geyser]

but came up short vs Liverpool

[knotty yacht]

Last place in the group like that’s embarrassing

[cobalt stump]

Ah that “Goated” Liverpool squad 😂

[pearl bronze]

Yet we we're a goal away from the UCL final in 2018 while a shit half cost us the UEL final

[rigid igloo]

hey if Roma beat Liverpool, we wouldnt see Karius mistakes

[normal idol]

aka if taa wont have handled the ball

[pearl bronze]

IDK how we would have done against Villa if we hadn't imploded but I like to think we wouldn't have botched it as badly as Man U did

[normal idol]

or the ref woulda given a peno

[knotty yacht]

Yeah but we would’ve literally demolish them

[pearl bronze]

Ok but I wanted us to win

[normal idol]

um?

[pearl bronze]

I feel that is more important than Karius gaffs

[rigid igloo]

I mean

I was cheering for Roma

because they beat Barcelona

[shadow juniper]

bruh

[pearl bronze]

Let's be real, nearly every non-Liverpool fan was rooting for us

[knotty yacht]

Same tbh but after the 1st leg it almost felt impossible for them to come back

[normal idol]

not after sean cox

[devout geyser]

it was shortlived.

[cobalt stump]

I root for literally anyone over a prem team lol

[normal idol]

and also people HATE italian teams

[devout geyser]

[knotty yacht]

They were close af tho

[pearl bronze]

Not as much as English teams imo

A sentiment that extends to the national team, as the Euro finals can attest

[rigid igloo]

gonna be interesting to see how Mourinho does at Roma

[normal idol]

finished farmer gonna fail!

[rigid igloo]

as for us, lets hope no more Marcelo

[cobalt stump]

🖕🏻 the England NT fans

[normal idol]

i was SUPPORTIVVE of mou when he was at spurs

now i think he is a washed up plumber

[halcyon lark]

He's so finished

[rigid igloo]

he is sadly

[pearl bronze]

Betting on that he failed with Spurs because Spurs kill everything they touch

[knotty yacht]

As much as I love Marcelo mendy is just levels above him now

[pearl bronze]

if he doesn't work out well...

[rigid igloo]

Mendy has been levels above him for 2 seasons

[pearl bronze]

It honestly can't get much worse domestically at least

[normal idol]

sarri>
spallettii>
inzaghi>

@pearl bronze

[devout geyser]

Sarri

[rigid igloo]

wtf Sarri?

[normal idol]

?

[knotty yacht]

Tbh prem fans hype zinchenko more than mendy

[normal idol]

even i do

obv zinc>

[knotty yacht]

Breh

[rigid igloo]

bruh

[cobalt stump]

I think Mou has had too much hate Bc of his time in Spurs imo

[rigid igloo]

Mendy is so underrated

[knotty yacht]

I hope u know I’m talking bout ferland mendy

Not Benjamin

[pearl bronze]

I'd agree with that. It's why I'm inclined to think he'll bounce back with Roma.

[normal idol]

obv bruh

[devout geyser]

whats easier, surviving in a lava or winning a trophy with Spurs

[pearl bronze]

Plus it's not like we're expected to compete for a CL spot

[normal idol]

UNDERSTAND.
Spurs played the WORST i had ever seen under him

[cobalt stump]

I think he will tbh. I consider Mou as one of the greatest managers of past 20-something years

[normal idol]

AND THEY DIDNT EVEN WIN

[knotty yacht]

Both are literally impossible

[cobalt stump]

Def lava

With lava u at least have the slightest chance of being safe on a rock or something lmao

[devout geyser]

@normal idol Poch though

[normal idol]

ah for crying out oloud GROW UP! HE WAS my fave at inter
but then he is WAHED UP please understand. i know this makes u go to sleep that u have a good coac h but please

[normal idol]

?

[devout geyser]

he got sacked

[normal idol]

ya

so

[devout geyser]

after getting Spurs a CL final

[rigid igloo]

Spurs in a Champions League final

lads

[normal idol]

obv

he should have ebeen sacked

[knotty yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/i-prefer-not-to-speak-jose-mourinho-tottenham-gif-19801391

[normal idol]

thats better

shouldnt speak either

[rigid igloo]

@normal idol Eric Dier CB

[cobalt stump]

Im just saying I think he is still good enough to bounce back. I don’t think he’s gonna win the serie a or anything but he could bring Roma to become a challenger

[normal idol]

just like the villa, you live in the past!

[normal idol]

im not sure but yeah maybe

[cobalt stump]

How about AC Milan being in the UCL again tho!!

[knotty yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/mourinho-gif-20750597

[knotty yacht]

Very exciting !

[pearl bronze]

This is where I'm at. If he can get us deep in the UECL (even dare I say, win it) and push us firmly in 5-6 range, I'll consider his first year a success.

[normal idol]

THE MOU I LOVED

[cobalt stump]

@pearl bronze how did Zlatan do last season

[pearl bronze]

I'll be shocked if we somehow get a CL spot, not with the top 4 we're up against

[normal idol]

https://tenor.com/view/eleven-elevensports-forthefans-mourinho-dier-gif-18967135

the mou i got

[knotty yacht]

Where he goin😂

[rigid igloo]

to the job center

[cobalt stump]

Nah that does have to be tough tho for ur favorite team to bring in such a great manager and it not work out well at all

[shadow juniper]

to get dier from the washroom

[rigid igloo]

hey

Mou was great for us

[knotty yacht]

Yeah

[normal idol]

it was

[knotty yacht]

His counter attacks were op

[normal idol]

i remember

we were trailing

[shadow juniper]

laid foundation of the team that won 3 peat

[normal idol]

then i saw some1 run off

[pearl bronze]

Solid but suffered two separate injuries that limited him to 19 appearances

[normal idol]

i was shocked

then i saw mou going

[pearl bronze]

Had 15 goals in those 19 matches though

[cobalt stump]

If it makes u feel better tho we lost Zizou 😭😭😭 for Ancelotti, who honestly I don’t think will do bad but it’s def not Zizou 😭

[knotty yacht]

Damn he just doesn’t age

[normal idol]

fr

[cobalt stump]

I’ll never be able to love a manager as much i love Zizou

[normal idol]

its time to recognise ibra as the actual goat

[shadow juniper]

Ancelotti is Zizou's teacher tho

[normal idol]

mentality 💯

determination 💯

[knotty yacht]

I like zidane but he ruined James and bale’s career

[cobalt stump]

A classic example of the student far surpassing the teacher

[normal idol]

fr

[normal idol]

fr

[cobalt stump]

He did.

I won’t argue that.

[normal idol]

https://tenor.com/view/marco-materazzi-zidane-headbutt-coup-de-boule-zidane-gif-12054300

pov : materazzi is bales career

[cobalt stump]

I just want Zizou to become the new France manager already 😭😭😭

[normal idol]

fr

[knotty yacht]

But he rlly changed us up from that 18/19 season zizou and showed how he’s a top class manager

[normal idol]

no one dispurtes that

[grim thicket]

not rlly, its actually injuries that derailed him

[cobalt stump]

Zizou in my eyes in the greatest manager of all time. Obviously that might be very biased, just a huge fan of him

[normal idol]

zidane hates him

[knotty yacht]

I can’t say that tbh

He needs more time

[normal idol]

he averaged 1 goal every 90 mins at spuras

[knotty yacht]

Only IMO

[grim thicket]

it would seem so....but its got more to do with bale's fitness and reliability than just zizou hating him for no reason

[rigid igloo]

scenes when Ancelotti gets sacked in December and Zidane returns for his 3rd stint

[normal idol]

idk zizou has the ability to hate people without reason

[grim thicket]

mid 2010s bale was injured so much zidane had to rely on isco a lot more

[grim thicket]

huh?

[cobalt stump]

I can see the argument I’m not gonna fight it. It’s just in my eyes he’s someone I’ve always admired and loved and that brings him to the top for me

[normal idol]

i can already see that lol

[knotty yacht]

If u saw the 17/18 season u would know he literally hates bale

[normal idol]

we know hes mercurial
can get esily annoyed by bales inability to mix in

[rigid igloo]

17/18, we were shite

[normal idol]

won the ucl

[rigid igloo]

aside from winning UCL

[normal idol]

won la liga as well

[rigid igloo]

no

that was 16/17

[grim thicket]

thats not just zizou tho, marcelo was pretty disappointed in bale too about his inability to mix in

[knotty yacht]

No not la liga

[grim thicket]

and most of the senior players were

everybdy thought he would take up ronaldo's spot as a team leader

but he just didnt

[cobalt stump]

17/18 was definitely the worst year of our run

[grim thicket]

i wouldnt necessarily call a ucl winning year bad

and its not like we barely crossed the finish line

[knotty yacht]

But our most impressive in terms of the teams we faced to win the ucl

[cobalt stump]

Nah just the worst of that 3 peat

[cobalt stump]

True

[grim thicket]

hmm maybe

16/17 was the most impressive

[rigid igloo]

who remembers 2017 Isco

[grim thicket]

dominated anybdy and everybdy that came in our way

[rigid igloo]

except Barca

fuck you Messi

[grim thicket]

huh?

[rigid igloo]

we lost to Barca

at home

[grim thicket]

we still won laliga mate

[rigid igloo]

true

[grim thicket]

who gives a fuck

[cobalt stump]

At this point I can only see the current Isco…

[devout geyser]

remember that Betis game though

when Barca's goal got disallowed

[grim thicket]

i dont think i do

[grim thicket]

hey look at the positives, atleast he is looking physically fitter than he has been the past couple seasons

it could translate to his game as the season goes on

[cobalt stump]

2016/17 was the year we went 40 games without defeat that was incredible

[cobalt stump]

And even more impressive, the 40th game was a comeback win

[grim thicket]

fitness has been a recurring issue over the past few seasons

ever since 2017/18

[devout geyser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZokJPwN_xAc

this

[cobalt stump]

True

[rigid igloo]

we had games go against us as well

that season

dont look at just that game

[grim thicket]

hope pintus can get to hazard and take him off the burgers

[knotty yacht]

Tbh they can suck their moms

[rigid igloo]

and if we go by ifs

[knotty yacht]

Not like they never robbed other clubs

[tender delta]

Who will win la liga this season

[grim thicket]

coz if we get even a half as good as a chelsea hazard and half as good as a prime bale, we could be easy contenders

[rigid igloo]

we can say "what if we beat Barca that season"

[cobalt stump]

Do y’all think we woulda make the UCL final last season if we were healthy?

[rigid igloo]

yes

100%

[tender delta]

I mean without Ramos and varane……

[rigid igloo]

im talking about 16/17

[knotty yacht]

Yes the defenders were just switching like ping pong

[tender delta]

That backline woosh

[tender delta]

Ahhh I’m talking about now

[cobalt stump]

It really don’t matter. We weren’t healthy. But it’s fun to think back at what we coulda done with that squad that was written off by everyone else in the world

[knotty yacht]

We also would’ve made the final if their goalkeeper didn’t decide to be prime neuer those games

[rigid igloo]

while our keeper

I mean

attack

went to shit

[cobalt stump]

True… 😂 fucking Chelsea keeper becomes great only when he faces us in the semis like wtf 😂

[knotty yacht]

Tbh that 2nd leg was just depressing to watch

[rigid igloo]

we had no RB

that was our breaking point

injuries caught up to us

[knotty yacht]

we weren’t creating any chances

[cobalt stump]

Mendy
Alaba
Militao
Carvajal

Mendy
Alaba
Nacho
Carvajal

Alaba
Militao
Nacho
Carvajal

Which do u hope we run for our back like

[rigid igloo]

honestly

a 3atb

for me

but thats unlikely

I would probably go with first option

[cobalt stump]

A 3atb tho would negate Mendy wouldn’t it?

[rigid igloo]

eh idk

[knotty yacht]

If we actually get pau Torres or kounde maybe

[cobalt stump]

Im hoping we do

[grim thicket]

the first one

[cobalt stump]

We need another defender. CB isn’t deep enough

[grim thicket]

we dont have enough depth to play 3atb

and we just sent out chust on loan to cadiz

so our only backup if we play 3atb is vallejo

[cobalt stump]

SHIT WE DID! I missed that news!!

[knotty yacht]

Tbh idk much of Alaba

[cobalt stump]

I mean I’m glad we did. He’s not ready for us yet. But I’m just disappointed I missed it 😂

[knotty yacht]

He played well against Milan

Tho

[cobalt stump]

Idk where I heard it from so it might not be reliable but I heard he wants to play mid. As if there’s any room for him in mid 🧐

[knotty yacht]

But it’s pre season after all

[knotty yacht]

Hell no

But like HELL NO

[grim thicket]

also if mendy isnt fit enough id rather want miguel to start over marcelo

or alaba to play LB

[cobalt stump]

Who tf would he start over in mid? Def not Casemiro. No way he can play forward enough to challenge over Modric or Kroos

[grim thicket]

kroos is injured for atleast a month

which i hope odegaard takes up

[cobalt stump]

Yeah but then Ode and Fede

[grim thicket]

yeah

[knotty yacht]

Isn’t ode getting sold?

[grim thicket]

nothing confirmed

and hopefully not

[cobalt stump]

Ode played a lot of RM at Arsenal right?

[grim thicket]

i'll be rlly bummed if we sold him

[grim thicket]

no, CAM

[cobalt stump]

Oh damn

[grim thicket]

but he can play RM

he has enough pace

and technique

[knotty yacht]

Yeah tbh our midfield is getting old so we need to keep him

[cobalt stump]

I was wondering how he’d do if we tried him at RW over Asensio

[grim thicket]

442 diamond would be better

with odegaard playing the isco role

problem is

[still pagoda]

Odegaard Ceballos and Vallejo cant be registered for tomorrow

because

[grim thicket]

we dont have cristiano anymore

[still pagoda]

Varane is still technically a Real Madrid player

[cobalt stump]

His deal just went through today

[knotty yacht]

Let’s start varane then😎😎

[grim thicket]

lmao

[still pagoda]

not officially announced

[cobalt stump]

Fuck

[knotty yacht]

Ah man

[grim thicket]

i rlly hope ancelotti gives odegaard more starts throughout the season

him and rodrygo

[cobalt stump]

Fr. Ode deserves it. He’s spent too much time away from the club and needs that chance

[grim thicket]

and not just that, he has been phenomenal for those clubs

made leaps and bounds in his development

[cobalt stump]

He was the creative passer Arsenal so desperately needed too which is amazing

[grim thicket]

it would be interesting if we sold isco to arsenal or milan

that is they wanna take him

isco is still just 29 i think

so thats prime years for a mid

[cobalt stump]

Isco has been been linked with Milan for weeks now and still nothing 😭

[grim thicket]

and im sure he is arsenal quality

[knotty yacht]

Honestly just take him

[grim thicket]

could very well revive his career there

[knotty yacht]

I wanna see him shine

[cobalt stump]

I might be in the minority here but I honestly don’t want Hazard to start.

[grim thicket]

you are not

i dont wanna see hazard in a madrid shirt ever again

[cobalt stump]

I honestly would 100% rather Vini than Hazard

[grim thicket]

fuck hazard

[grim thicket]

rodrygo

[knotty yacht]

I think it depends on his fitness and form

[cobalt stump]

Rodry over Vini yeah 😂 but I’d rather have literally any other of our wingers than Hazard

[grim thicket]

true true

[cobalt stump]

I want him gone so badly

[grim thicket]

he is on a bad contract, impossible to offload him

still got 3 years left in his contract

and its like 600k per week i think

or was it 450k

[alpine socket]

.

[cobalt stump]

I would like us to try out a narrow formation tho tbh. We got good midfielders

Would like to fit more of them in

[grim thicket]

hey im gonna go to sleep now, night guys!

[cobalt stump]

Have a good one bruh

[alpine socket]

Gn, Happy Mbappe dreams!

[cobalt stump]

Idk if we have enough midfield depth for a narrow formation tho

[knotty yacht]

I want to see how odegaard deals with isco’s role in 2017/18

[cobalt stump]

I think Ode will be one of the crucial players for us going forward. I don’t want to see him go

At least give him a chance

If he does poorly, sure, sell him next summer then. But he really hasn’t had a shot

[knotty yacht]

Agreed

[cobalt stump]

I think him and Fede will take over nicely for Kroos and Modric

Kubo if he keeps developing on his loans could be one of the winger solutions

[knotty yacht]

I think they are they are the perfect replacements especially cause they are getting old

[cobalt stump]

Ode that magical player too like Modric was

Is* he still is magical

Modric is actually the only players kit I have lol

[knotty yacht]

Idk if it’s reliable but people are saying this is probably modric’s last season at real

[cobalt stump]

No.

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-no-way-never-nuh-uh-gif-14500720

I don’t want that

If he had left the same window as Ramos and Varane I actually wouldn’t be able to handle it 😭

[knotty yacht]

Would’ve been depressed really

[halcyon lark]

Might be

[cobalt stump]

Don’t say that 😭

[normal idol]

kane

[halcyon lark]

Even if it isn't his last, his tenure at Madrid will end soon

[normal idol]

WHAT

i wasliterally typing

lmao

actually

l=k a=a m = n o = e

kane

[cobalt stump]

I know but I don’t want it 😭 I want him to retire here

[halcyon lark]

Not sure where else he'd go

[knotty yacht]

China or some shit

[cobalt stump]

Wow… how times have changed

2017 champions league final lineup vs possible current lineup

[halcyon lark]

That XI is disgusting

[knotty yacht]

I don’t think that will be the lineup ngl

[cobalt stump]

I don’t think so either. But holy crap

[halcyon lark]

All I can say is Madrid has seen better days

[knotty yacht]

Yep

[grave glen]

We may not have a good lineup as before, but we still are the best team in Spain and Europe

[lucid meadow]

he’s here again

F

[grave glen]

13 UCL’s and 34 La Liga’s💪🏻

And we will soon get Kylian

[knotty yacht]

Tbh if that’s our lineup we Don’t need mbappe man we need god

[grave glen]

Don’t worry we are good

[cobalt stump]

Here’s my prediction as to our lineup (when everyone is healthy)

[grave glen]

Be optimistic not pessimistic

[knotty yacht]

Yeah that’s better ig

Midfield still world class

[grave glen]

Need Kylian on the left wing don’t we

Vinicius has been very disappointing

[cobalt stump]

It’d be nice 😂 but Vini > Hazard

[knotty yacht]

Honestly yes I rather see him replace vini than rodrygo

[grave glen]

True hazard was just a waste of money

[grave glen]

I have hopes from Rodrigo but he barely plays

[knotty yacht]

Yeah but when he plays he’s actually not bad

[grave glen]

Yeh he has the talent

Hopefully he gets more game time this season

[cobalt stump]

I like rodrygo. Was considering buying the new kit with his name or Benzema’s. But I’m waiting til next month to see if we get Mbappe 😂

[grave glen]

We should loan him out to Dortmund or some other club like them where he can play and develop rather than wasting him on the bench

[knotty yacht]

Tbh if bale gets a bit of motivation and mbappe is on the left it’s over bro

[cobalt stump]

Facts tho