barca had a bad season this year
#la-liga
winged phoenix
🔥
keen gorge
fast fable
lets gooo
they shouldntve sold arthur
if we had arthur there woulda been no need for gini
slender reef
Arthur is busy being shit at Juventus
austere crescent
Pjanic and Arthur both shite
inland hound
Arthur not Pjanic
fast fable
Arthur is busy being shit at Juventus
true
winged phoenix
Arthur not Pjanic
both
inland hound
Pjanic was class in Juve🤷♂️
winged phoenix
Pjanic was class in Juve🤷♂️
oh i thought you meant pjanic not arthur
mb
arthur was not bad in barca
grave glen
arthur was so pissed when he had to go to juve lmao
smile just disappeared completely when he lifted the shirt for photos
no wait
pjanic i think was it
ahhh idk anymore
yeah it was arthur
winged phoenix
nah he a snake for leaving inter
the board did not back him
so he left
imo
there is nothing wrong with that
boreal shell
the board did not back him
what makes him think he will last at real
still pagoda
what
grave glen
arthur was not bad in barca
lazy and mediocre tbh
him being good at passing and tiki taka doesnt make up for his lack of effort
winged phoenix
lazy and mediocre tbh
more efficient than vidal
grave glen
not even same position
winged phoenix
the goals brought a good reputation on his season imo
grave glen
Vidal was a great contribution
grave glen
Vidal? A cam 😐
He’s always done the box to box position
Vidal has never been a playmaker
upper drift
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pastel steeple
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winged phoenix
grave glen
💀
inland hound
Muted💀
still pagoda
😂
grave glen
ray hudson gone 😦
arctic geyser
Muted for what
grave glen
icy jolt
Mariano 
inland hound
We should only consider Raul or Conte imo
Raul cud be another Lampard
thin ivy
Hell Poch makes Conte look like Guardiola
wide escarp
conte is good
arctic geyser
We should only consider Raul or Conte imo
Why raul
indigo grove
Raul cud be another Lampard
If real take Raul we risk doing the same mistake as Juve
wide escarp
if only inter didnt fired him
inland hound
If real take Raul we risk doing the same mistake as Juve
We need rebuild Conte or Poch is good innit
thin ivy
and tbh i still dont know what lampard did wrong with chelsea
can someone explain
i dont watch prem
inland hound
raul did good with castilla
Keyword: Castilla
indigo grove
We need rebuild Conte or Poch is good innit
Not a fan of either, but Conte clear
inland hound
Mayb
arctic geyser
raul did good with castilla
castilla is not real madrid
thin ivy
still id have him over spurspoch
wide escarp
euh
arctic geyser
What
arctic geyser
Poch led spurs to cl semis
wide escarp
🔫
indigo grove
still id have him over spurspoch
Nah, I hope real avoid Raul as much as they can
arctic geyser
Yeah
thin ivy
poch hasnt won any major trophies lol just carabao runners up and ucl runners up
inland hound
He would want Mbappe n all
wide escarp
lukaku is pretty good n9
inland hound
Mbappe>
thin ivy
mourinho should have waited before signing for roma so he could sign with us lmao
i miss shithouse madrid
but wouldnt make sense without ramos nvm
inland hound
Si he only rebuild us in 2010
indigo grove
mourinho should have waited before signing for roma so he could sign with us lma...
There's a reason god didn't let that happen, mourinho ain't the same masterclass anymore
thin ivy
the only positive i see with zidane leaving is that vini will probably be benched more lmao
thin ivy
There's a reason god didn't let that happen, mourinho ain't the same masterclass...
b-bbut he's the chosen one
inland hound
There's a reason god didn't let that happen, mourinho ain't the same masterclass...
He only build us wat u saying ?
indigo grove
b-bbut he's the chosen one
In his day, defo, he won a treble with fukin porto
thin ivy
moving to spurs was a mistake for mourinho imo
after taking THAT united squad to second place he shouldve left england
still pagoda
We went from Allegri, to Conte, to Pochhettino, to Raul in 4 days
wide escarp
he took 1 break after manu
still pagoda
This club
inland hound
We went from Allegri, to Conte, to Pochhettino, to Raul in 4 days
People believe Marca and Diaro AS
Its not even true they make up stuffs
neon hornet
fabrizio is the god of football news
grave glen
Football's Woj
neon hornet
woj?
grim thicket
Marca is garbage
arancha rodriguez and miguel angel diaz are credible sources for real madrid news specifically
sid lowe to some extent as well
thin ivy
never heard of them till now
grim thicket
in italy, dimarzio is very credible along with fabrizio
thin ivy
for me, everytime there are rumors/news its either shit-tier spanish papers/marca and the man himself fabrizio
idk anyone else lol
still pagoda
What about that pedrerol guy
grim thicket
marca is kind of like the news from where you need to filter out the shit rumors for whats actually happening
still pagoda
Tic tac man
grim thicket
who?
broken badger
Can I speak spanish here?
still pagoda
That guy on el chiringuito
grim thicket
yes you can
upper drift
Can I speak spanish here?
Sí
broken badger
Nice
grim thicket
but i dont think there are many spanish speakers here, but you can
broken badger
What about that pedrerol guy <:kekw:837450721548959754>
No hablemos de Roncero
grim thicket
you can also speak spanish in #south-american-football
upper drift
Which mod speaks Spanish apart from Wingski?
broken badger
Ty
still pagoda
No hablemos de Roncero
?
upper drift
Now we have Hack and Luis 🔥
grim thicket
roncero
still pagoda
You don't speak spanish? 😭
No
still pagoda
Alot of people got to know about them just because of that Hazard video
grim thicket
like i said there arent many spanish speakers around in here, there are more in #south-american-football, but you are welcome to converse in spanish in both channels
neon hornet
these are the teams we can face in the ucl group stage next season (given that uefa dosent kick us out)
i guess every barca fan should prepare for thursday night football or a narrow escape to the r16
neon hornet
me too
grim thicket
im confident in our ability against inter
grim thicket
inter were shit against us with conte
neon hornet
ye
grim thicket
and they got inzaghi now right?
grim thicket
inter were amazing under mourinho, coz that man knows how to win trophies....and that was it
neon hornet
if we hopefully get sporting lillie and inter we could top the group
grim thicket
yep
neon hornet
inter were amazing under mourinho, coz that man knows how to win trophies....and...
yea
grim thicket
lille and sporting are like the easiest, but inter are quite easy too
neon hornet
if we get city bayern and chelsea its game over
grim thicket
would love to see barca v bayern again 😉
neon hornet
grim thicket
city v barca would be an interesting matchup next season
neon hornet
ye
grim thicket
with aguero playing for barca now
altho its gonna be pretty one sided imo, there are gonna be storylines
neon hornet
and idk if eric garcia can fix the defence
ye
we will be on the rock bottom if we get bayern city and chelsea in our group
grim thicket
would you say any of the signings barca have made so far, or are reported to be finalised, good?
neon hornet
aguero yes
grim thicket
rlly?
neon hornet
depay yes
grim thicket
it seems a downgrade from suarez
grim thicket
i feel like the only reason they signed aguero was to appease messi
neon hornet
and koeman wont bring back suarez
grim thicket
and get him to stay
coz he aint that good anymore
he used to be a couple years ago, lethal
neon hornet
and get him to stay
for that they shouldntve sold suarez
grim thicket
but not anymore imo
neon hornet
ye
neon hornet
he has downgraded is the past years
grim thicket
where would he play?
neon hornet
lw
neon hornet
benchwarmer
neon hornet
i just hope that ansu fati would still get a chance
grim thicket
i just hope that ansu fati would still get a chance
fati should start atleast half the games as the striker up front imo
neon hornet
fati plays as lw
grim thicket
he has got great no.9 instincts
neon hornet
ye
grim thicket
no he doesnt, he played 9 at la masia
neon hornet
hmm
grim thicket
he was made a makeshift lw under setien coz barca didnt have wingers and fati was pacy
grim thicket
i havent watched lyon much this season, but isnt depay more of a second striker? just like griezmann?
neon hornet
i havent watched lyon much this season, but isnt depay more of a second striker?...
idk
grim thicket
and another question, where does aguero play then?
neon hornet
he plays more of like a striker
neon hornet
and another question, where does aguero play then?
aguero cant play 90 mins nowadays
grim thicket
hmm true
neon hornet
so he will prolly be used as a super sub
even i would use him as a super sub
imagine aguero running through tired defenders
grim thicket
depay for free is great, but it still doesnt make sense to me, coz i feel him and griezmann are the exact same type of player, and griezmann is more talented
neon hornet
but griezmann goes missing in big games
grim thicket
who says depay wont
neon hornet
not me
grim thicket
depay flopped hard with man utd
neon hornet
ye
grim thicket
and only recently revived his career
seems like quite a risk to bench a 120m player who has actually played quite well this season for somebody unknown
neon hornet
well football in england is different than football in spain
idk if depay can have an impact
neon hornet
seems like quite a risk to bench a 120m player who has actually played quite wel...
ye
grim thicket
well not rlly unknown, but you get what i mean to say right
neon hornet
ik
grim thicket
and what about players like pjanic and coutinho
neon hornet
sell them
grim thicket
koeman doesnt seem to want to start either
neon hornet
free money
grim thicket
who would buy them?
neon hornet
hmm
grim thicket
thats the biggest question
neon hornet
im pretty sure no one would buy them even for free
unless its arsenal
grim thicket
arsenal have pulled out of coutinho's transfer
grim thicket
and i dont think there are any suitors for pjanic either
neon hornet
we had arthur
neon hornet
wasnt arthur decent
grim thicket
you guys gotta stop putting those tags
next xavi, next iniesta, next messi lmao
that aint gonna happen
just move on
slender reef
nah mingueza is the next puyol!
grim thicket
😂
neon hornet
no 1 can replace the barcelona of 2009
slender reef
and Araújo!!
grim thicket
i suppose eric garcia is the next pique then lol
slender reef
Ansu fati next messi!!
grim thicket
it does nothing but put tremendous pressure on the player to perform
grim thicket
garcia is shit tbh
exactly....just like pique
grim thicket
was it an acl tear?
i thought it was a meniscus surgery
damaged knee or something
grim thicket
even tho he is a rival player, i hope he comes back and realises his potential in the future....dont want his career ruined by injuries
its apparently a surgery that turned into a knee infection
which pushed back his return date
it was a surgery on the meniscus yes
harvey barnes also had a knee surgery, but that was different from fati's
thin ivy
"next xavi"
how many times have we heard the "new ronaldo" or "new xavi"
grim thicket
lol exactly
thin ivy
i feel like labelling young players like that is unnecesary pressure
plain elbow
those labels come from the youtube reels lol
thin ivy
wasnt xavi simmons the new messi or something
grim thicket
lmao
grim thicket
no that ws tonali
thin ivy
tonali is good too tbf
grim thicket
coz he looked like a young pirlo and plays as a regista
im gonna be in eager wait for the next modric 😛
thin ivy
chiesa, barella, tonali, diaz have been doing well despite their hype
grim thicket
altho srsly, we are gonna miss modric so much after he retires
grim thicket
barella has been a top class midfielder
thin ivy
is LV too old to become the new modric? they have similar qualities
grim thicket
i hope we can plug brahim in at rw if he comes back, in case we arent able to sign somebody
nah LV doesnt even play like modric
he is hardworking sure
but LV is a pure winger
/wingback
thin ivy
but what if we play him strictly at cm we might see some modric in him
diaz has been good but iirc he always plays mid
milan plays 2 at front the most
grim thicket
also, lets be honest, modric peaked very late, and when he peaked, he absolutely took everyone by storm
thin ivy
yeah wasnt he the "flop" from spurs
grim thicket
but what if we play him strictly at cm we might see some modric in him
ig he has developed some defensive qualities playing as a wingback this season, but his passing and vision arent even close to modric's
grim thicket
yeah wasnt he the "flop" from spurs
yeah that was supposed to be the worst transfer of the decade or something
25m i think
thin ivy
it was ancelotti at madrid when he came on yeah?
grim thicket
sorry, 35m
no, mourinho
he came in right before ancelotti iirc
2012 summer
but it was mourinho who set up that transfer
thin ivy
god bless him
grim thicket
mourinho built most of the team that won la decima
he was super unlucky to not win it in 2011/12 itself
thin ivy
mourinho madrid was legendary but shame barcelona was in their prime as well
but hey we had the threepeat
grim thicket
yeah, still cant take away the fact that we got the record for the most goals scored in a season
and its almost an untouchable record
121 fucking goals
thin ivy
without ronaldo, you think we'd win the threepeat?
its annoying how other fans make it sound like we were nothing without ronaldo
always gotta remind bale was a huge savage then
grim thicket
im not sure if we wouldve won the threepeat without ronaldo, but i wont say ronaldo was carrying real either
bale was at his peak
and KCM was the best midfield (Still is to some extent)
id say our midfield had more impact on our game than ronaldo did, he was the end product of it all
thin ivy
i agree
inland hound
I feel our wingers sud take a lot of credit
thin ivy
not to mention defense with keylor
inland hound
Marcelo n cavra
inland hound
Dani too
grim thicket
....
thin ivy
marcelo's passes are still so good to this day
grim thicket
yeah but he is more of a liability at this point
thin ivy
when he smashes long you know its gonna be good
grim thicket
he doesnt track back on defence at all
grim thicket
when he smashes long you know its gonna be good
i remember he scored a right footed banger once, and the commentators went crazy
was in 16/17 i think
thin ivy
he doesnt track back on defence at all
he can play cm but that would be another hole in midfield. modric and kroos were getting outpaced in the semis
also TIL coentrao still actually plays
inland hound
Left wing back
grim thicket
yeah, he would still need to work hard in the midfield
inland hound
only
grim thicket
maybe he can play as a winger, as a substitute lol
thin ivy
seeing modric getting outpaced is sad
thin ivy
i feel like they were just fatigued
inland hound
But still i feel we need younger legs🤷♂️
thin ivy
maybe he can play as a winger, as a substitute lol
he can still do more than asensio for sure
inland hound
Vs chelsea our mid didnt track back well
grim thicket
yeah thats quite a possibility too, since we had so many injuries and modric played way more than he was supposed to with fede out a lot
thin ivy
asensio this season has been bittersweet
inland hound
So we play against a younger team result would be same
grim thicket
asensio is inconsistent to say the least
inland hound
Asensio is nothing with the ball
thin ivy
Vs chelsea our mid didnt track back well
our forwards were silent the whole time
thin ivy
So we play against a younger team result would be same
yeahh man like chelsea had so many good young talents.
grim thicket
and i dont mind losing to eventual champions
thin ivy
i dont hate vini but he has to produce more
inland hound
we got overwhelmed tactically
We cant do anything 5 of our players played 1st game after thier injury
grim thicket
yep
thin ivy
and i dont mind losing to eventual champions
same. scenes when city beat them. id be even sadder
inland hound
i dont hate vini but he has to produce more
Honest opinions : He sud just leave the club🤷♂️
thin ivy
Pep is class but they gotta taste some of that karma for overspending and possibly playing eufa to fuckoff and not ban them
grim thicket
whoever is the next manager, i just want odegaard to get more gametime next season
he is rlly rlly good
he just needs someone to believe in him
thin ivy
Honest opinions : He sud just leave the club🤷♂️
Nah we spent so much on him and he has produced great moments. We should loan him somewhere.
grim thicket
he is amazing with those deep long passes, and could be a future replacement for kroos
inland hound
He sud start next season
thin ivy
Odegaard Casemiro Fede
grim thicket
i was hoping he would get more gametime this season, and isco to be gone, but that didnt happen :(
inland hound
We have to play with 10s Now
grim thicket
Odegaard Casemiro Fede
maybe, but not all games
thin ivy
or Odegaard Fede Diaz if milan doesnt buy diaz
inland hound
WIngers arent great so play with AM
thin ivy
but casemiro is still so good. no point in benching the hitman
grim thicket
still want kroos to play, odegaard could be deployed as a makeshift RW/CAM in a 442 diamond sort of thing
and slowly transition to kroos' role as he gets older
inland hound
Si
grave glen
What are Real's chances of signing Mbappe?
grim thicket
he has the acceleration and technical skill to navigate as a winger and find himself between the lines
very low id say
perez issued a 10% pay cut recently
which means we are in financial trouble
grim thicket
hopefully we get more than 70m for varane
inland hound
with that hope we buy
grim thicket
if harry maguire gets sold for 80m and varane for 70m, thats a fucking disgrace
more so, i hope varane stays
he could take over the captaincy and leadership role in defence
i feel like varane is one of those players that can make or break a team, like VVD did with liverpool
and especially with ramos out
inland hound
Militao will start
grave glen
No one's paying 70 million for Varane
inland hound
He has proved he can start n lead the team
inland hound
No one's paying 70 million for Varane
Man U
grim thicket
yes for sure militao is a starter
but varane has been on another level these past few seasons
inland hound
We sud convert Mendy to CB
inland hound
?
grim thicket
They aren't idiots
they paid 80m for maguire, nuff said
grave glen
And even they know they overlaid for Maguire
They aren't paying 70 million for Varane
grim thicket
like, they paid 80m for maguire in a jiffy, and they hesitated to pay more than 50m for sancho
grave glen
Best you get is 50
grim thicket
thats the definition of idiots
inland hound
This is Pandemic market
Man U still are very rich they can afford him
grave glen
They can
But they won't overpay this much
Varane has like 1 year left on contract too
grim thicket
80m for varane aint rlly overpay
grave glen
That lowers his value a lot
torn ermine
is zidane staying or nah?
grim thicket
and i hope he doesnt screw us
grim thicket
official statement from madrid and all
torn ermine
dude, im out of football for quite a while now because of school g
torn ermine
been rough af
grim thicket
isnt it your final year
inland hound
Conte
grim thicket
damn, good luck
still pagoda
Conte, Poch or Raul
plain elbow
so are these poch links today trustworthy or is it just his entourage spamming shit?
still pagoda
Yeah but they're still considering him 🤷
grim thicket
nah its shit
still pagoda
Idk why
grim thicket
nothing from real madrid yet
grim thicket
im not sure if we have the right pieces to succeed under conte tho
plain elbow
poch deserves better than working for that fraud daniel levy again, much much better.
grave glen
Will be interesting to see how Conte and Perez goes along
grim thicket
and yeah that too, conte doesnt work well with the board
conte prefers wing backs with a 3atb....and we dont have such pieces
he prefers a target man, benzema aint that
grave glen
They can take Raul and hope that he becomes as good as Zidane
Or replace him on cheap anyway
If he fails
grim thicket
They can take Raul and hope that he becomes as good as Zidane
ig raul will take over after a couple years once the transition is done
inland hound
and yeah that too, conte doesnt work well with the board
He would buy Lukaku in his 1st day
grim thicket
just like ancelotti and zizou took over mourinho's work
grim thicket
He would buy Lukaku in his 1st day
damn i hope not lol
grim thicket
it doesnt work that way at real
still pagoda
Yeah
grim thicket
the board does the transfers not the manager
a reason why zizou left the first time
plain elbow
any manager that comes to real in the right frame of mind surely still has continue with project mbappe lol
inland hound
Managers request transfers
still pagoda
Yes
grave glen
What if Mbappe extends his contract like by 5 years
grim thicket
any manager that comes to real in the right frame of mind surely still has conti...
i mean, we for sure arent getting mbappe this summer, so we gotta wait and pray he doesnt sign the extension, and get him on a free
still pagoda
What if Mbappe extends his contract like by 5 years
Then we ain't getting him
grave glen
Yh
grim thicket
What if Mbappe extends his contract like by 5 years
he has rejected 5 times so far i think, so early signs look good, but yeah if that happens, good bye mbappe
grave glen
Dealing with PSG is hard
still pagoda
i mean, we for sure arent getting mbappe this summer, so we gotta wait and pray ...
You think psg will let Mbappe leave for free?
grave glen
They are like the richest in the market
grim thicket
You think psg will let Mbappe leave for free?
its upto mbappe at this point, whether he wants to force out a move
not rlly in psg's hands
with one year left on his contract
grave glen
You think psg will let Mbappe leave for free?
I don't think so. But I'm not 100% on it either.
80% chance PSG don't let him go for free.
grim thicket
the psg president has been adamant that mbappe is staying, but thats what most owners/presidents say
plain elbow
there’s no way al khelaifi will risk mbappe leaving for free.
grave glen
They can offer him 2 million euros per week
grim thicket
they alrdy did i think
a lot of money
and mbappe rejected
i dont think its about money at this point
its more about where he wants to play
grave glen
2 million euros is like twice the salary of Messi
grave glen
How much can real pay him at this point?
grave glen
He's currently on ,650k right?
still pagoda
Definitely not as much as psg offered
grim thicket
yeah think so
grim thicket
also it would be a rlly stupid move to tie up a player for 2m pw
grave glen
Not sustainable unless you're state backed or oil rich
grim thicket
too many variables in football to give out that huge a salary
what if he gets injured
grave glen
Yeah
torn ermine
He's currently on ,650k right?
who is this? mbappe?
grim thicket
yeah
torn ermine
damn
grave glen
If you're gonna risk it then Mbappe is likely the best one to risk it on. But still too much
grave glen
What holy
torn ermine
i mean it makes sense tho
grave glen
Griezman is on 800k
torn ermine
he is young and world class, that def make sense
grave glen
Messi on 1.1 million
still pagoda
Alaba will become our 4th highest paid player
grim thicket
Griezman is on 800k
barca dont have a proper wage structure at all, they just throw money at whoever
3rd highest
after hazard and bale
torn ermine
Griezman is on 800k
i dont think thats his current wage
still pagoda
Lmao
grave glen
barca dont have a proper wage structure at all, they just throw money at whoever
Yeah. And their signings are....just
torn ermine
didnt they take wage cut already
grim thicket
yeah lol
still pagoda
Alaba will earn more than Kroos and Modric
grave glen
i dont think thats his current wage
That's the wage on his contract.
grim thicket
alaba earns 3 times more than benzema...let that sink in
grave glen
You deduct the wage cut percentage
grim thicket
and he is gonna earn more than 4 times of what casemiro earns
still pagoda
💀
torn ermine
That's the wage on his contract.
yeah, but currently he aint tho. If you said he is 800k rn
i dont think we can afford three new players like depay, gini and aguero
grave glen
Free transfer players are always gonna demand huge salary. Unless they are the players who no club wants
grim thicket
casemiro is currently on 90k pw
and alaba is gonna be earning 412k
like seriously
torn ermine
yeah, but currently he aint tho. If you said he is 800k rn
i dont think we can a...
afford their wage*
grim thicket
wtf
grave glen
yeah, but currently he aint tho. If you said he is 800k rn
i dont think we can a...
I meant agreement on his contract. Wage cut is temporary I imagine
torn ermine
and alaba is gonna be earning 412k
wtf? that really doesnt make any sense
grim thicket
benzema earns around 160k compared to that
only players earning more than alaba on our squad are hazard and bale....not a good company to be in
we grossly overpaid there
bale makes sense
he was a legend
but hazard and alaba 😬
grave glen
This is gonna be the strategy for players for years to come. Run down the contract and then sign a massive contract on free transfer and get huge signing fee.
grim thicket
even ramos' asking salary was 350k....lower than alaba's
the only thing he wanted was 2 years
torn ermine
so ramos contract is still on hold? cent
grave glen
Ramos probably gonna get close to 500k in his new club
grim thicket
we only hand out 1+1 contracts to 35+ year olds
grim thicket
and 2 year contracts to 30+
grave glen
And ask huge wage
plain elbow
yea ramos is certainly leaving, i’d be so surprised to see a turnaround in the scenario.
torn ermine
neither side is budging
its hard tbh
especially if new player who gets more than literally the captain of the team
grim thicket
only way ramos stays is if he accepts perez's deal
coz im damn sure perez aint budging
grave glen
Ramos can likely get a better deal from other clubs
grim thicket
its hard tbh
especially if new player who gets more than literally the captain o...
i wont mind benzema being the captain next season
grave glen
These players compare their wages to other elite players.
grim thicket
but yeah true
alaba for that much is just stupid...sure he is 28-29 but he has been on a steady decline the past couple years
torn ermine
yeah i mean wouldnt the veteran like benzema, kroos, modric, casemiro feel uncomfortable with alaba gaining more salary than them?
grave glen
Alaba has his merits too
grim thicket
and he isnt one of the best CBs ever.....he isnt even a top 5 cb
grave glen
He can cover a lot of position and play on a high level
grim thicket
yeah i mean wouldnt the veteran like benzema, kroos, modric, casemiro feel uncom...
dont think so, hazard got a huge pay when he signed 🤷♂️
grim thicket
so did ronaldo when casillas was captain
torn ermine
then yeah fine
grave glen
But yeah he has been regular at Bayern for a long term and reached his peak long ago
plain elbow
alaba is only a makeshift CB imo, he’s isn’t that great in the position, but maybe the slower pace of spanish football could solidify him more.
torn ermine
alaba is my fav LB during the mid 2010s
grim thicket
idk maybe, i hope he does well.....but i rlly dont see it happening
grim thicket
alaba is my fav LB during the mid 2010s
not marcelo?
grave glen
Alaba was good in Bayern's CL winning season as CB
Good ball playing skills
This season he hasn't been that good ,I heard.
grim thicket
Good ball playing skills
a bad defender tho, he was bad with his positioning and marking
grave glen
Didn't watch him tho
grim thicket
and his aerial threat left a lot to be desired too
grave glen
a bad defender tho, he was bad with his positioning and marking
He was not a natural defender
grim thicket
yeah
torn ermine
not marcelo?
its my fav cent, not the best, you know i dont choose marcelo because of madrid bias 😂 😂
but hey i still admit marcelo is the best LB of 2010s
grave glen
Bayern doesn't get much threat from opposition attacks.
grim thicket
lol true
grave glen
So his ball playing skills help them start their attack
grim thicket
bayern dont care to concede either, and they have manuel fucking neuer at goal
grave glen
Yeah. Neuer is also great at distribution and coming out off the box to clear the ball
So Alaba fits there well
grim thicket
thats how most of bundesliga is, outscoring the opponent
but idk if he would work well in a more patient possession based game
grave glen
Alaba 9-10 years ago was a great LB tho
grim thicket
yeah he was
grave glen
Alaba and Lahm as fullbacks
grim thicket
that bayern team was legit
plain elbow
bayern are far more of a total counterpressing side
grave glen
Then Pep played him in every position
grim thicket
pep is all about getting good players and doing quirky stuff with them nowadays
gundogan at striker 
grave glen
Pep is tactically nuanced
upper drift
Pep once played Lahm and Schweinsteiger as AMs and Thiago and Müller as wingers
grim thicket
well in pep's defence, gundogan was in an amazing scoring form
and city were in a striker crisis
but still, playing a cm, who is more of a conservative player as a striker....thats quirky af
grave glen
I thought Gundogan was finished. After he suffered his major injury in Dortmund
But his career has seen a great turnaround
grim thicket
yeah he has been amazing with city
grave glen
He is one of City's most important player now
grim thicket
i didnt get why pep started sterling yesterday at LW tbh
like why tf, when you could play foden there
and start fernandinho/rodri in cm
grim thicket
and sterling was absolutely pocketed by reece james
grim thicket
That's hard to beat unless he overthinks
the thing is, he always overthinks
grave glen
In CL
grim thicket
you watch those bleacher report youtube videos?
grave glen
His team has mad consistency in PL
grave glen
you watch those bleacher report youtube videos?
No
grim thicket
i mean, the UCL is the only elusive trophy to city now
they have been dominating PL for half a decade
with that squad and that kind of financial backing, if you cant win the CL thats a failure
grave glen
With his lineup it was just easy to see that his midfield will be overrun
grim thicket
yeah
grave glen
I don't know what was he thinking
inland hound
City won leagues before peps arrival🤷♂️
grim thicket
it was so confusing as to why he started sterling....and opted to bench fernandinho/rodri
grave glen
I predicted 2-0 to city first. Then saw lineups and changed prediction to 2-1 to Chelsea.
inland hound
Sud have played Cancelo over walker imo
grave glen
Should've betted a few bucks on Chelsea
grave glen
Playing Cancelo on left would've been better
grim thicket
that couldve helped the midfield
yeah
or just....be normal and start rodri, bench sterling and play fucking phil foden as the LW
rodri or fernandinho
foden has been great at LW, has had a lot of freedom to play and create
grave glen
Fernandinho is the best player in terms of getting away with fouls
Always start him in big games
grim thicket
casemiro is the king of dark arts in that regard
grim thicket
he will get those yellows, but almost never get a red
and get away with fouls quite often
altho its not to say that he is a bad defender
his positioning is impeccable
grave glen
Casemiro is good at scoring too
I think with Mordic getting old real is losing workrate in midfield
Runners and covering ground
grim thicket
yep, good aerial presence in the box, and pretty good with making runs too
he has developed more into a box to box player in the past couple years
grave glen
KCM 4 years back was easily the best mid in the world
grim thicket
rather than the conservative DM he used to be in our threepeat years
grave glen
Kroos was Ancelotti signing, I think
Other two Mourinho
Fabinho also played in Real Castilla
grim thicket
KCM 4 years back was easily the best mid in the world
it was the perfect balance, kroos with his vision and long passing skills, and being an amazing set piece threat, casemiro with his defence, and modric cleaning up after everybdy
yep
grave glen
But Fabinho didn't get game as DM due to Casemiro in real Madrid Castilla
grim thicket
Kroos was Ancelotti signing, I think
yeah kroos was signed right after the world cup by ancelotti
grave glen
Castilla has good potential
grim thicket
But Fabinho didn't get game as DM due to Casemiro in real Madrid Castilla
casemiro used to play 9 in his early days in the academy
he developed into a CDM much later
grave glen
casemiro used to play 9 in his early days in the academy
Really?
grim thicket
Castilla has good potential
blanco looks rlly good, he got the technical skills to flourish in our midfield....i see him as a xabi alonso-esque player
grave glen
I read few days ago from a former Castilla coach...he couldn't play Fabinho as DM because Casemiro was already there and was considered better
grim thicket
and miguel gutierrez has been great in the very few minutes he got
grim thicket
I read few days ago from a former Castilla coach...he couldn't play Fabinho as D...
oh i mean in casemiro's early days right after he was bought
grave glen
Few minutes here and there could be misleading
grim thicket
well yeah
grave glen
But yeah players need a pathway to make it to the first team
Only few gets the chance they deserve
grim thicket
imo he shouldve played all those games instead of marcelo, the ones that we lost
just coz marcelo wasnt good enough to track back
grave glen
Marcelo was never that good defending
grim thicket
rn castilla has a promising winger named peter federico
a good crosser and dribbler, needs to improve his finishing
grave glen
With with Marcelo and Ronaldo, Marcelo could boss the left flank and allow Ronaldo to cut inside. That was deadly. But Marcelo would always get caught on counters every now and then
grim thicket
Marcelo was never that good defending
yeah but atleast he used to have the stamina to track back when needed, and i remember he used to make a lot of goal line saves
he had the stamina and pace to make an effort on defence
now he doesnt
grim thicket
oh marcelo is def the best LB we have ever had, he is just not good enough anymore....and its okay given he is almost 34
wait
33
id say he has surpassed roberto carlos
grave glen
Carlos was great too
Not comparable imo
But Carlos was also poor in his last two years at real, I think
He couldn't track back too
grim thicket
yeah ik, but if i had to compare between the two, id say marcelo's career at real has def surpassed roberto carlos'
grave glen
Carlos never had full authority over one flank like Marcelo did
Ability wise I rate Carlos higher
His skills in the ball was certainly better
grim thicket
sure marcelo's international performance wasnt as great as roberto carlos, but he didnt have the luxury to play alongside R9, rivaldo and ronaldinho in the same lineup either
grim thicket
gn
grim thicket
yeah nice talking to you too
karmic jungle
OFFICIAL
Juventus are set to pay €10M to extend Alvaro Morata's loan until June 2022. The one-season extension clause agreed with Atlético Madrid last summer will be triggered in the next days, as Massimiliano Allegri wants Morata to be part of the team.
grim thicket
lodi is better anyway 🥱
grave glen
https://onefootball.com/editorial/33099391?language=en
Oh no, please no if we sell him to u he’s gonna become prime Alba
grim thicket
who would even start in place of alba if you sell him
i cant recall any other left backs at barca
hybrid python
zealous flower
i cant recall any other left backs at barca
The mighty junior firpo
worthy aspen
It's astonishing that Kovacic has played a total of 17 mins in 4 finals and won all 4 of them
I wish Atletico won one.
inland hound
Kova=🐐
opal sigil
keen gorge
Oh no, please no if we sell him to u he’s gonna become prime Alba
He was one of your best players this season
But not sure if it is a good thing to have him considering we already have Hermoso, Lodi and Manu Sanchez, who is a future prospect
grim thicket
unless barca are getting gaya or grimaldo, selling alba makes absolutely no sense
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mighty iron
HUH
covert monolith
toxic tree
mellow light
empty willow
Ayyy
Yo wtf tho
Messi, kane, aguero, depay, grizzi, dembouz
Jfc
Can’t forget fati either
And braithgoat
🐐
winged phoenix
Attack me now too 😁
LMOA
mint perch
Thoughts on Sevilla?
arctic geyser
Sevilla wil be quiet and finish top2
indigo grove
Thoughts on Sevilla?
Strong team
winged phoenix
https://en.as.com/en/2021/05/31/football/1622417445_986023.html
html
inland hound
#perezout
arctic geyser
Yeah
winged phoenix
#perezout
runied football
and lied to defend himself
he told the he would have nnot sacked zidane after the shaktar scare
and now he did not have faith in him
inland hound
He has overachieved with us n still he dont trust his project
keen gorge
I find it very strange that he calls out the management directly in his letter
inland hound
No
grave glen
@inland hound who do you think will win the league next season
grave glen
Barcalona i believe
I don't think so tbh
arctic geyser
Barcalona i believe
Hmm
inland hound
I don't think so tbh
eh? i dont see atleti winning next season
grave glen
eh? i dont see atleti winning next season
Me too somehow we are nominated cuz of barca being a banter club and real without zidane
inland hound
We have no manager rn n it would be his 1st season so i dont see us winning either
inland hound
Atleti wont win next season🤷♂️
grave glen
Not last
arctic geyser
Sevilla wil be silent and finish 1st
grave glen
Atleti wont win next season🤷♂️
Still we have a high chance that's unbiased
plain elbow
atletico will need to bolster their squad depth if they aspire to have any chance at defending their title.
inland hound
atletico will need to bolster their squad depth if they aspire to have any chanc...
💯
No squad depth
arctic geyser
\1\0\0\%\
grave glen
atletico will need to bolster their squad depth if they aspire to have any chanc...
Simeone is an idiot rn he has a lot of funds yet heading for cheap strikers
inland hound
Every season he buy a striker
plain elbow
as for real madrid and barcelona, i guess we all know the chances that are deemed to take place soon, they’ll both be unpredictable bunch for now.
inland hound
Wut No way
grave glen
@inland hound
You know what he sold previously right?
We get robbed of good players
Wut u expect
We become rich
inland hound
i dont get u
grave glen
We lack chemistry tho
grave glen
i dont get u
Rodri 80Mil
Hernandez 80Mil
Partey 60Mil
Griezman 120Mil
Gelson martins 30Mil
Morata 20Mil
Vieto 20Mil
And other earnings from winning the league and etc
That's in the past 2 years
I think we rob clubs for selling them players that flop
inland hound
i believe ur clubs in immense debt?
grave glen
i believe ur clubs in immense debt?
Wdym
void tapirBOT
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grave glen
Oh have debt nah just around 480Mil long term
@inland hound I checked
It's not 230
It's 190
inland hound
U wont spent 230 M in this pandemic market
grave glen
U wont spent 230 M in this pandemic market
Ik
We might spend 50Mil lol
And 20-40 for a midfielder
70-90
@inland hound simeone doesn't like high transfers he hates it when his team gets pressure
inland hound
De paul for 40 M
grave glen
De paul for 40 M
We are negotiating
arctic geyser
?
rich terrace
Probably no transfers for us
arctic geyser
Yeah
slender olive
From reddit:
the year is 1997. Real Madrid are La Liga champions. Barcelona competed with them throughout the season and ultimately just fell short by two points and finished second. Manager Bobby Robson was leaving at the end of the season Barcelona were desperate to end the season on a high
Copa Del Rey final. Barcelona vs Real Betis. At the Santiago Bernebeu Perfect opportunity to make a statement victory at the arch-enemy's home The players fight a very hard-fought game and end up winning the game 3-2 after extra time.
As the full-time whistle blows, Barcelona Vice-President Joan Gaspart goes to the stadium announcer booth. He asks the stadium announcer to play the Barcelona anthem on the speakers. The stadium announcer refuses. Gaspart pulls out a large stack of cash and BOLTS the door !
Before the Real Madrid executives figure out what is happening, the Barca anthem is blaring on the speakers with loud, raucous applause and wild cheering from the Barcelona fans carrying separatist Catalan Flags.
Before the Real Madrid executives break the door open, the anthem has already played 6 times on loop with the entire Barcelona board celebrating on the pitch with the players along with the Barcelona fans. They break open the door to find Gaspart laughing hysterically and walking out like he just won a trophy of his own. Ex-players like Stoichkov and Guardiola said that this was the greatest moment of their Barcelona careers apart from the CL win in 1992. From that day onwards, Madrid refused to host a Copa Del Rey final which has Barcelona in it. One of the most coldest moments in the club's history.
violet summit
the year is 1997. Real Madrid are La Liga champions. Barcelona competed with the...
Thanks for sharing. Awesome backstory
slender olive
i didnt write that
keen gorge
the year is 1997. Real Madrid are La Liga champions. Barcelona competed with the...
Lmao this is why the finals were usually played in the Calderon or the Metropolitano
keen gorge
atletico will need to bolster their squad depth if they aspire to have any chanc...
If we can get a good striker, increase the squad depth and replace the deadwood in the team this transfer market will be great
We have a couple of young players like: Manu Sanchez, Ricard, Riquelme, Sergio Camello, Monteiro and Mario Soriano who I wish can be integrated in the first squad
radiant trout
empty copper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X1Q4gPw1VQ
i love the fans reaction
@slender olive can u give the reddit posts link?
slender olive
i love the fans reaction
empty copper
thanks
arctic geyser
Its a troll
inland hound
Lmao
arctic geyser
Its common
inland hound
What is this guy drinking
Dont waste ur time lol
grave glen
Dont waste ur time lol
Lol I'm gonna ignore him
Both Pique and Busi has declined a lot
inland hound
Not Busi
grave glen
It's delusional to claim they are the best in their position now
violet summit
I’m a barca fan and I’m ashamed of these kids
grave glen
I’m a barca fan and I’m ashamed of these kids
Ikr he said you won la liga so now ur acting like the best
@violet summit don't be
There will be idiots and assholes everywhere
La liga winner is best Spanish club of the season
No point taking shame on someone else's behaviour
violet summit
Ikr he said you won la liga so now ur acting like the best
You totally have the bragging rights till next year lol
grave glen
You totally have the bragging rights till next year lol
Ik
Barca fans bragging on copa del rey
I'd rather see a Madrid fan brag about being second tbh
violet summit
I have no idea when barca will see glory days next
grave glen
They need to financially sort themselves out first
violet summit
Wijnaldum, Aguero all 30s
grave glen
Football is way too dependent on money
arctic geyser
remove the debt
grave glen
How
violet summit
remove the debt
Super League xD
arctic geyser
Super League xD
Not a solution
grave glen
Once the super league started barca went loose and went for haaland that's how reckless they are
Instead of paying debt they immediately went for the second most expensive Player
violet summit
Lol true. And more debt piles up
Sell Barto’s assets
Hopefully he has a lot of property… sell all of it
grave glen
Laporta isn't a genius
He is making his problems future problems
It's like saying
You have to delete the I will do it tommorow attitude
Then saying
I'll delete it tommorow
violet summit
But signing these stars will gain revenue too
grave glen
@violet summit haaland wants 50Mil yearly and 100Mil signing bonus and will leave around 150Mil from Dortmund so all the super league money will go bye
How barca will buy haaland
Lol
violet summit
Even messi has to reduce his wages…
grave glen
Even messi has to reduce his wages…
Barca fans making rumours
Messi never stated (I will stay)
violet summit
We’ll see
grave glen
@violet summit it's like being offered 50$ to play in your home field or 150$ to play on another field
For us
That's messi's situation
empty copper
Laporta isn't a genius
u sure?
grave glen
Yeah
empty copper
i dont think so
violet summit
Yeah. I won’t be mad if he leaves though… we can’t be
empty copper
like u can argue laporta had the big brain of soriano with him when barca won the ucl under pep
but yh still laporta is a big upgrade over barto
violet summit
Koeman saga keeps getting weirder though
void tapirBOT
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violet summit
Laporta should sack him asap. Don’t keep him hanging
inland hound
<@696720967166328923> I can't get enough of him LOL
Ignore Lad