la-liga

[grave glen]

yeah same idr much

[open raft]

i've seen him missing sitters live

[grave glen]

but wouldn't have missed 4+ sitters

like

Braithwaite

[open raft]

lol

[grave glen]

Barca kicked Suarez out and gave his shirt to Braithwaite

He just hits the post those aren’t called sitters

[open raft]

i'm not talking about them

[grave glen]

I liked to see Barca get slapped in the face by Suarez's Atléti ngl

it's what they deserved

[alpine socket]

Braithwaite is the only subs you can bring in along with dembele

[open raft]

i'm talking about actual sitters

[iron marten]

Disrespectful ngl

[grave glen]

but dont yall think Messi losing possession too many times is also a reason he should leave

[wooden sail]

I wanted Suarez to give a middle finger today to Barca ex board after selling him

[open raft]

yep

[grave glen]

oh it was worse than Iker's farewell

[iron marten]

What?

No

[grave glen]

okay yeah no I exaggerated

my bad

[grave glen]

same

[opal sigil]

Whats wrong with selling him

[open raft]

dude Suarez did get a good farewell, if fans were allowed it would've been much better

[grave glen]

proceeds to bring an old Sergio Aguero

[iron marten]

I think that'd be too much

[opal sigil]

We cant sell a player ?

[grave glen]

yeah lol I admit I exaggerated

[open raft]

at lower wages

[alpine socket]

Should have sold him after a replacement

[wooden sail]

I am joking no one would do that lol

[iron marten]

Yeah lol

[grave glen]

precisely

[opal sigil]

Problem was selling him to a rival

[iron marten]

Yep

[grave glen]

exactly, again

[open raft]

Barto masterclass

[alpine socket]

Boards are dumb u know

[open raft]

If Suarez didn't cheat his italian exam

[grave glen]

tbf he was heading to Juve but cheated on his test

exactly

[open raft]

Juve could've been top 4

[grave glen]

no one?

@wooden sail

[open raft]

lol

[alpine socket]

Goal

Barca Femini 4 - 0 Chelsea W UWCL FINAL

[grave glen]

I've actually sent a video where he created a goal for Levante in La Liga last matchday

you can't ignore it

[iron marten]

Wow

Barca Femini respect

[grave glen]

oof the week just gets worse for Chelsea lol

[open raft]

they've been incredible

[grave glen]

who all have scored?

is Lieke there on the sheet?

[iron marten]

Absolutely

[open raft]

nope

[grave glen]

Did koeman do a press conference or no??

[open raft]

no idea

[open raft]

he did say something after the match

[grave glen]

lool I was just about to say that it's just 37'

[open raft]

post match interview

[grave glen]

At least something positive is going on

For Barca

[open raft]

lol yeah

I think there has been a lot of positives this season

[grave glen]

another reason I think Koeman should stay and Messi sold is because he's not exactly got the best out of Messi

because he's done decent with the rest

[alpine socket]

In league. 😎

[open raft]

dude

[grave glen]

except defenders

[grave glen]

FCB Femeni are light years ahead of Real Madrid lol

[open raft]

and they have played 4 less matches LOL

[iron marten]

Why would Barcelona sell Messi

[grave glen]

always been the case

[open raft]

they shouldn't

[grave glen]

to focus on the defense + new era + him leaving will reduce the pressure on the coach + no Messi fanboys

[open raft]

only for fun

[iron marten]

Hmm

[open raft]

you can focus on defence without selling messi

[grave glen]

if Messi leaves they WILL be forced to improve defense because you can't get another Lionel Messi

[iron marten]

I do get what you mean

[grave glen]

but are they gonna do it lol

[alpine socket]

Board won't sell him. It's easy to speculate. Chance only if he wants to leave

[grave glen]

their only priority is keeping messi here and making him happy

they're making him bigger than FC Barcelona

[open raft]

yeah eric garcia is coming home, idk if he's good tho

[grave glen]

no one's bigger than the club

[open raft]

true

[grave glen]

he's been trash with City

but does well with Spain

so idk lol

[alpine socket]

Bruh, no board will sell messi. Like how don't u understand

[open raft]

pep was saying he's amazing

[grave glen]

uhm maybe

but everytime he's played

the only time you notice him

is when he gets knocked in the head

[grave glen]

but they should, exactly

[open raft]

yeah messi is a huge source of revenue

[grave glen]

but Pep can't be wrong too

[alpine socket]

If they do that, they will lose huge chunk of revenue

[open raft]

lol

[grave glen]

Garcia isn't like VVD who'll fix the defense on his own

if they get Garcia then they need other defenders too

Y’all need someone like de ligt I heard he wanted to play for Barca

[open raft]

i think our defence would be good if garcia comes in

[wooden sail]

Yeah need to scout someone like dias

[grave glen]

exactly, and it's worth the risk with Messi's age

and with the times he loses the ball

[wooden sail]

A puyol regen is needed

[open raft]

he earlier chose Juve tho

[open raft]

Araujo

[wooden sail]

Nah too young

[open raft]

Araujo gives me Puyol vibes

[iron marten]

I think it'd be much worse without Messi tbh

[open raft]

yeah ik

[grave glen]

someone to slap the senses into the players when they lose motivation, exactly

Koeman needs to stop playing pique and play Araujo and Mingueza

[inland hound]

[grave glen]

not so much in the long run though

[open raft]

hehe

[grave glen]

ehh he's decent but can't bear the torch right away

[wooden sail]

Yeah lmao barca were winning when pique and roberto were injured shows something

[grave glen]

have y'all seen de Ligt's speeches at Ajax?

[iron marten]

Yeah maybe

[grave glen]

he gives literal Puyol vibes

[open raft]

he's too young, you can't comment on that

[alpine socket]

I'll be okay if Messi stays. He's still good if someone can keep finishing properly, any young gun

[grave glen]

sounds like a fucking viking

[open raft]

i've seen him motivating the team

Araujo^

[grave glen]

a 19 year old guy led Ajax like a born leader

[grave glen]

He wouldn’t play any young people if his old people weren’t injured

[open raft]

Yeah I think so too

[grave glen]

if they can get de Ligt on offloading Messi, it's worth the risk provided they stick to a decent coach

[inland hound]

https://twitter.com/MadridXlra/status/1394000771771887617

Madrid Xtra. (@MadridXlra)

🚨🚨| Eibar have been relegated. Messi has announced his retirement.
@diarioas [🥈]

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[grave glen]

oof

[grave glen]

Very funny

[wooden sail]

No coach would dare to do that what do you expect
Even bayern played fucking alaba instead of lucas all season

[grave glen]

Eibarman and Penaldo guys should be banned

[inland hound]

W

[open raft]

toxic

[grave glen]

alaba instead of alaba?

oh

ya

[wooden sail]

Lucas lol

[alpine socket]

I love how Eibar lite gets annoyed lol

[wooden sail]

[open raft]

They call messi Eibarman when Messi is the top scorer of el clasicos

[grave glen]

cause de Ligt is starting to find his feet + is an exceptional leader

[inland hound]

" Madrid Xtra"

[grave glen]

27+ vs Sevilla and 25+ vs Atléti

9 vs Arsenal (when they were actually good)

[grave glen]

Eibar = Real Madrid??

[alpine socket]

I would say, Messi staying and getting a pure striker would be what we need.

[open raft]

Exactly

100%

And a defender

[alpine socket]

No no. Madrid = Eibar Lite

[wooden sail]

That tweet was a good joke lol
If messi actually leaves this season
People will relate both as "Messi leaves La Liga because his fav Eibar relegated" lmao

[iron marten]

No, Barcelona need a whole new defence

[grave glen]

but no manager has the balls to put Messi into midfield. Messi needs to be put into midfield not attack to get the best out of both him and a new striker

[inland hound]

its a Joke are u this soft?

[grave glen]

EXACTLY

[open raft]

Nah that's too much lol

[inland hound]

[grave glen]

defense is a bigger priority

[grave glen]

And u think I’m being serious??

[alpine socket]

Who denies? But how will u play without a striker

[open raft]

Yeah, we would still be unable to finish our chances

[grave glen]

Griezmann + Fati

[open raft]

even more without messi

[grave glen]

don't forget Fati

[alpine socket]

Nah, I doubt if Fati would be what he was

[open raft]

We don't know about Fati if he's gonna be the same or not

[alpine socket]

We need a pure striker

[grave glen]

I'm also a little skeptical about it ngl

[open raft]

And Fati is even younger than Pedri

[wooden sail]

Buy ferran torres imo

[open raft]

You can't play him every match

[grave glen]

probably because yeah even Griezmann and Fati can't convert crosses

[grave glen]

Pep isn't gonna sell him

[iron marten]

Well yeah, a striker is very important and all, but Barcelona's defence has been shocking since 2017. You had a striker, but he left for free to Atlètico.

[wooden sail]

But ferran would like to
He gets benched

[grave glen]

true

Pep should sell himself to Barca 🤣

[alpine socket]

Griez has been decent in last phase of la liga

[open raft]

Isn't he a winger?

[grave glen]

why does he get benched after screwing Germany

[open raft]

😂

[grave glen]

for Sterling

[wooden sail]

Also he spanish

[grave glen]

no point lol

[wooden sail]

Pep says hes a good 9

[grave glen]

even Pep can't fix it

[wooden sail]

He is a good finisher

[grave glen]

precisely

[open raft]

Ah then yes any good 9 is welcome here

[inland hound]

My MAN

[alpine socket]

Yeah, do doubt. A striker and defenders. Midfield is stacked and doesn't have much issue

[mint perch]

We not selling Ferran Torres

[grave glen]

exactly he's not dumb

[iron marten]

You mean Man City

[grave glen]

Sterling leaving will firmly put Ferran in starting 11

Aguero's gonna go anyway

[iron marten]

Torres has been good

Manchester Citeh

[open raft]

I think Aguero can fix our attacking problems if he remains healthy

[grave glen]

he's too slow

[open raft]

Hmm

[grave glen]

• is short so not dangerous from crosses

[iron marten]

Maybe Barcelona should get Alexander Isak from Real Sociedad

[wooden sail]

Lol no he is close to being finished

[open raft]

I've seen reports suggesting that he might join

[grave glen]

or Malen

[iron marten]

Maybe idk

[grave glen]

Dutch guy, tall and strong

[open raft]

Idk about Malan

[grave glen]

get Rashford pls

he's class too

[open raft]

We should find someone in La Masia

[iron marten]

Too expensive

[grave glen]

and isn't rated by United fans

I see no reason to rate Bruno over Rashford

[alpine socket]

Depends on the coach

[iron marten]

Barcelona don't have the money anymore, they're in debt

[grave glen]

La Masia strikers can't be dangerous from crosses

[wooden sail]

Lol he wont leave he loves england

[grave glen]

can confirm xDD

[open raft]

Someone can break the cycle

[grave glen]

Cruyff's philosophy dictates that good players can always be signed

[alpine socket]

We're in dent not bankrupt. There's money, but not like to buy halaand

[open raft]

Exactly

[grave glen]

academy graduates are always used to increase the squad depth

so finding a striker to put in starting 11 + a defense is good enough

[iron marten]

1 billion in debt..

[alpine socket]

So?

[open raft]

Btw Kluivert might resign as the La Masia head

[open raft]

that doesn't mean we are bankrupt

[grave glen]

even if we get a striker who's above average + de Ligt and need Messi to go, it'll be fine

[grave glen]

wha why

[alpine socket]

Being a debt is not related to your expenditure directly

[grave glen]

COVID also screwed the club

[open raft]

I think he has been appointed as the temporary Curacao coach

[open raft]

heavily

[grave glen]

Camp Nou ticket sales helped Barca a lot

[open raft]

Yea

[iron marten]

Also what's up with the new stadium called Espai Barca? Why not cancel that project to save some money? Camp Nou's good enough.

[grave glen]

I see, interesting

[alpine socket]

Messi needs to stay at this point. You lost the chance to let him go in last June

[grave glen]

ikr man they're going all commercial

[open raft]

It probably would be cancelled

[grave glen]

I was never in the favour of him staying, he's class dude but he's stagnating the growth

[open raft]

It was Barto's idea

[alpine socket]

I think it's already funded maybe

[grave glen]

• I knew he won't leave

[iron marten]

Bartomeu that rat

[open raft]

Lol

[grave glen]

I don't trust Laporta

[iron marten]

Why not?

[grave glen]

ESL was also Barto's decision

and we've still not quit

[iron marten]

He'll quit

[grave glen]

that's why

[alpine socket]

It was practically right

[open raft]

I don't trust any businessman

[grave glen]

for the debt yeah lol

[grave glen]

Laporta's worse then lol he's a lawyer

he's better than Barto

but I don't fully trust him too

[alpine socket]

Even Laporta being in favour of ESL makes more sense

[grave glen]

because debt

[open raft]

yeah because we need money

[grave glen]

but risking expulsion from la liga is bad

[open raft]

can't blame him

[grave glen]

Laporta recently got 500 mill from some American company I think

[open raft]

weren't socios supposed to vote?

[alpine socket]

Won't happen

[open raft]

regarding ESL?

[grave glen]

I think that's the delay yeah

[iron marten]

Very bad, also out of every european competition + spanish cups

[open raft]

I see

[grave glen]

yeah I think so, some people were talking about it here earlier

[alpine socket]

You can't just remove FC Barcelona from league duh

[open raft]

idts they would be kicked out of La Liga

[grave glen]

La Liga can

because of Catalan separatists

[open raft]

it would impact heavily

[grave glen]

but yeah it makes no sense economically

[open raft]

Yeah

[grave glen]

They can but they know, if they do kick there top 3 out no one will watch them

[alpine socket]

There's difference between possibility and capability

[grave glen]

spot on yeah

[grave glen]

I will 👉👈

but yeah gotcha

[open raft]

and we won the UCL next season

[grave glen]

farewell Leo Messi time for a revamp

it's okay if they finish outside top 5 even

[alpine socket]

Stop that, doesn't make sense

[grave glen]

if they manage to fix the squad

[open raft]

chill man it's just a joke lol

[alpine socket]

This team winning cdr is enuf and fighting

[grave glen]

Puig was really good today, I’ve got to say. No wonder Barca fans always want to play him.

exactly

[grave glen]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[open raft]

yea

[keen gorge]

Eibar relegated
https://twitter.com/SDEibar/status/1394015493674110982?s=09

SD Eibar (@SDEibar)

Siete años después, nos han despertado del sueño.

No importa el dolor de la caída, porque nos levantaremos y seguiremos adelante.

Es momento de seguir construyendo el futuro, #DenokBatera.

Porque… ¡VOLVEREMOS! 💙❤️

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[grave glen]

he presses the life out of opposition man

[open raft]

he's one of the few players who play with passion

[grave glen]

Also if koeman loses/draws against Eibar then he’s 500% getting sacked

Puig Pedri de Jong can be a low budget recreation of Xavi Iniesta Busquets

[open raft]

lol for sure

[grave glen]

I hope it doesn't happen

[open raft]

I read somewhere that Barca have already started to contact Xavi

[grave glen]

I swear I'll permanently switch to Ajax if they sack Koeman

[open raft]

Lol let's see

[grave glen]

there'll be no difference b/w Barca and Chelsea

[alpine socket]

He's extending with Saad

Xavi can't do shit

[grave glen]

U shouldn’t get Xavi u should get some good coach that has experience

[open raft]

He has a special clause for Barca

[open raft]

ik

[grave glen]

yeah exactly Xavi can wait

[alpine socket]

We need good coaches not Xavi

[open raft]

Xavi isn't good rn

We need Pimienta

[grave glen]

Idk why they didn't chase ten Hag

[open raft]

Pimienta>everyone

he has waited for 15 years

[grave glen]

he would've got Barcelona the fricking treble yet again

[grave glen]

if Koeman leaves

[open raft]

Yea

[grave glen]

then we have no better option

[open raft]

I would've gone for Pimienta instead of Koeman

[grave glen]

and Pimienta will probably trust academy graduates too

[open raft]

Barto's board was really clueless

[alpine socket]

Koeman is still good if they can fix their eleven. Have to work on selling/buying

[grave glen]

because he's trained most of them

yeah

like I think

[open raft]

yep

[grave glen]

Pimienta might get the best out of Messi

but for Koeman to get the best out of Barcelona

[open raft]

He would get the best out of everyone

[grave glen]

he needs to offload Messi

[open raft]

Nah

[grave glen]

yeah I mean lol our team is basically Messi + Griezmann + ter Stegen + La Masia kids

[open raft]

he just needs a striker and a good defence

[alpine socket]

Not happening, so don't think

[grave glen]

minus bad defenders

[grave glen]

that's the bad part, exactly

[open raft]

De Jong- Am I a joke to you?

[grave glen]

they want to experiment

but are also afraid to do it thoroughly

[grave glen]

Ajax Barca same thing 😛

[open raft]

Lol

[grave glen]

Ter stegen is getting slandered Barca just forget how many times he has saved your asses

[open raft]

After seeing the replay I think it was more of Pique's fault

[grave glen]

if he wasn't there Barca would've lost 4-3 to LFc in the first leg right away lol

would've seen 8-3 before 8-2

[open raft]

anyways most of the barca fanbase are ungrateful toxic messi fanboys

[grave glen]

the first goal?

[open raft]

yea

[grave glen]

yeah he didn't block the shot

[open raft]

Pique should've blocked it

Instead he moved away from the ball

[grave glen]

and most certainly blocked ter Stegen's vision too

[alpine socket]

Every club has 🤷‍♂️

[open raft]

yea

[open raft]

No

[grave glen]

Went right through piques leagues and pique was blocking Ter stegens vision

Legs*

[grave glen]

City and BVB are clean 🥺

[open raft]

We have one of the most toxic fanbases ever

[grave glen]

Barca fanbase is worse than Real Madrid

Madrid fans living in Madrid are dumb

[alpine socket]

What? Not possible, find me one where their players don't get slandered

[grave glen]

but they're sensible everywhere else

[open raft]

Yeah the current real madrid fanbase

[grave glen]

it's the opposite with most Barca fans

[grave glen]

BVB and Ajax 🥺

[open raft]

dude barca fanbase slanders players for no good reason

[alpine socket]

I hope you are not talking about Twitter fans, because they are not fans ☠️ ☠️

[open raft]

Lmao

[grave glen]

Barca fans find scapegoats for Messi's errors

most^

[alpine socket]

Bunch of trolls slandering everyone

[open raft]

true

[grave glen]

they seriously praised Messi for winning a golden boot and ballon d'or with Roberto Rakitic Vidal and Arthur in his team

when will the clowns realise that Barcelona can't replace Messi Xavi Iniesta so easily?

[open raft]

messi deserves praise for that tho

[grave glen]

it's a good midfield, obviously but can't do with Xavi/Iniesta did

[keen gorge]

Anywhere other than EPL top 6, barca, madrid, Juventus

[alpine socket]

This is mostly to trigger Ronaldo fanboys. Don't you know about the civil war?

[grave glen]

that can be done w/o belittling our players

Rakitic is a club legend

[open raft]

Yep I agree

[grave glen]

with a legacy better than Neymar arguably

[open raft]

And our midfield wasn't that bad lol

[grave glen]

yeah only defense was

[open raft]

oh definitely

[grave glen]

tch tch tch sucks

[open raft]

Neymar is almost like Figo

[alpine socket]

Well that's world football heatmap tho.

[grave glen]

he's worse bruh Figo had a ballon d'or at least

[open raft]

I'm talking about their legacy at barca

No Barca fan likes Figo ig

[grave glen]

yeah Figo's last season at Barca got him a Ballon d'Or

he received it in Madrid but played for Barcelona for a chunk of that year

[open raft]

yeah and then he went to Madrid

[grave glen]

Didn’t he present it in the Santiago Bernabeu??

[grave glen]

oh lol obviously

[grave glen]

@grave glen^

Oh

[alpine socket]

Remember when Arthur was praised to be next Xavi/Iniesta and be got benched by couple of bad games and sold out suddenly

[grave glen]

behavioural issues smh

Arthur was okayish

[empty willow]

Fuckin hell barca lost again?

I’m glad I didn’t watch

[grave glen]

selling him was never the solution

[alpine socket]

Got pjanic for him ☠️

[grave glen]

Yes, lol

[open raft]

shouldn't be a surprise anymore lol

[grave glen]

Koeman in/out?

settle this

[empty willow]

We don’t deserve messi

[grave glen]

wut

[empty willow]

Out

Well

[grave glen]

Messi's been underperforming too

[empty willow]

Maybe

[grave glen]

eh?

[empty willow]

Wut

[open raft]

According to his standards maybe

[empty willow]

Top scorer in la liga

Scored today innit

[grave glen]

can do better at other places + isn't strong enough to run the entire game for Barcelona all the time

[empty willow]

I didn’t watch today so idk

[open raft]

yeah a header

[alpine socket]

That's very very high standard, Messi's standard

[grave glen]

if they give him rest + field him with a little more rigidity, he'll be better

[empty willow]

That’s the thing he can’t do it himself

[grave glen]

1 goal vs top 4

[grave glen]

yeah but no coach has the balls to put Messi in midfield till Messi himself says it

[alpine socket]

He would have gone around 40 goals if his start was good

[open raft]

that's because our team is weak, we get tactically crushed against good teams

[empty willow]

Why would we play Messi in the midfield

[open raft]

for sure

[grave glen]

because he creates chances better than he scores goals

[empty willow]

I always thought that messi should be the furthest up the pitch

[open raft]

CAM would be better

[open raft]

NO

[empty willow]

Unless we get an actual striker

[grave glen]

so getting a striker + messi into midfield would get them firing

[alpine socket]

Doesn't make sense as he is the only who takes more shots than anyone 🤷‍♂️

[grave glen]

his shots have become weaker

[empty willow]

If we get a striker then yes messi could play cam

[open raft]

idts

[empty willow]

Bruh

[grave glen]

vs Juve

(in big games)

[empty willow]

Have u seen his goals this szn

[grave glen]

usually he's the main man

[alpine socket]

Having weaker shots is better than none

[empty willow]

Outside the box

[open raft]

yeah like the banger vs psg was a weak shot

[grave glen]

hahaha yeah fair point

[empty willow]

Messis long shots are mad

[grave glen]

most of his goals are that way now

[empty willow]

Ye

[open raft]

because we keep lurking outside the box

[grave glen]

prolly because I'm just used to seeing him beat 5 players and score a wondergoal

[open raft]

yeah

[grave glen]

https://twitter.com/madridxtra/status/1394020906113159172?s=21

Madrid Xtra. (@MadridXtra)

🚨| Our player Take Kubo scored the winner for Getafe today SAVING them from relegation.👏🏻

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Madrid taking credit from our boy

[grave glen]

can't go in anyway lol no one's good enough to convert crosses

[open raft]

xD

[grave glen]

hurts lowkey

[empty willow]

But messi drops too deep that’s why I always thought that messi should be the furthest or one of the furthest up the pitch. If we get a pure striker that’s a different story then

[grave glen]

La Masia kid@Madrid

what ecen

[alpine socket]

There's no player on this team who can penetrate a defence other than ...... So that guy takes shot from outside itself

[open raft]

I think Messi likes to drop deep

[inland hound]

no

He was just decent

[empty willow]

Drops too deep tho like all the way to the cdm position at times

[inland hound]

at 2018/19

[grave glen]

Messi furthest will backfire, he doesn't and can't sprint as much as he used to + is harmless from crosses, that's exactly what a striker needs

[alpine socket]

He doesn't like. He needs ball at his feet which doesn't happen much

[open raft]

Yeah I've noticed that he does that when our midfield is kinda dead

I mean when we aren't creating any chances

[grave glen]

and he gives it away a lot now if you've noticed too

[open raft]

true

[empty willow]

Ik that’s why I said a striker would be a different story and that’s what I would prefer. Messi playing right behind the striker. I miss suarez

[alpine socket]

Yes. One who creates most will tend to lose more. Makes sense right?

[empty willow]

Yep

[grave glen]

Suarez was amazing

[open raft]

yea

[grave glen]

but Messi and Suarez's connection was predictable

[empty willow]

Predictable but unstoppable

[grave glen]

hence the opponents frequently managed to cut Suarez out of the game

[inland hound]

in UCL

[open raft]

esp in away games

[empty willow]

Bro for a Barca fan ur a bit harsh on our players @grave glen 😂

[alpine socket]

And if our players had finished those easy foals properly we would have been on the top

[grave glen]

but is scoring once and giving the ball away 6+ times, that's why Messi needs to be dropped into midfield, if he stays at all

[grave glen]

exactly

[inland hound]

Lmfao'

suarez 👻

[open raft]

that's why he has neutral alongside FCB

[grave glen]

maybe lol but I'm just being slightly critical of Messi because no Barca fan has ever criticised him

[empty willow]

Suarez deserves la liga if atleti win

[open raft]

Loll

[alpine socket]

Then rip ur attack.

[empty willow]

Ok lol

[open raft]

Suarez helps ATM win the the La Liga

[inland hound]

Not a big player genrraly

[open raft]

Barto- suprised pikachu face

[grave glen]

I wanted him to whack Barca in the face with the way they let him go

[grave glen]

scores a hat-trick vs Real Madrid

[open raft]

Suarez was a beast bro

[wooden sail]

Suarez aint a big game player according to me

[empty willow]

Fuck bartomeu

[grave glen]

he used to contribute to games in ways more than goals

[wooden sail]

Atleast since 2016

[grave glen]

he's been just fine

[open raft]

he scored against atletico in the dying moments back in 2019 iirc

[inland hound]

1 game lol

[empty willow]

Yep I can agree with that

[wooden sail]

In ucl* sorry forgot to add

[grave glen]

no striker other than Ronaldo has been a big game player since 2017 practically

[open raft]

against inter too

[open raft]

lol yeah maybe

[grave glen]

only Messi has been but he used to be on the wing

[empty willow]

Ronaldo hasn’t really been a real striker tho

He’s played alongside strikers

[grave glen]

yeah but did take up the role of the fox in the box with Zidane

worked wonderfully for him

[empty willow]

Yep but not a pure striker

[grave glen]

so exactly lol

[open raft]

yeah his heatmap showed that he usually lurks in the box

[grave glen]

no striker is a big game player recently

[empty willow]

Lewa

[grave glen]

other than the GOATs

[open raft]

not in big games

[grave glen]

ehhh he's a poacher

[empty willow]

Lewa was huge in the ucl

[grave glen]

he finishes the moves off

but isn't a guy who can decide the game by himself

[empty willow]

Bro u said striker

[wooden sail]

Lewa scored 4 against prime real madrid in semis with a bvb squad

[open raft]

he scored most goals in the group stage I guess

[grave glen]

Lewa-Bayern is the perfect symbiosis

[open raft]

I thought we were talking about nowadays

[grave glen]

both of them need each other to get the best

[inland hound]

[wooden sail]

Also scored the winning goal in juventus comeback game

[empty willow]

Chelsea, Barca, Spurs, lyon

[open raft]

..

[alpine socket]

Lewa needs a feeder mostly

[wooden sail]

Oh okay let me tell then

[grave glen]

I wonder why no one talks about that game ngl

koeman: ready to lose against eibar
koeman's brain: ay ay captain
koeman: i cant hear you!
koemans brain: AY AY CAPTAIN!

[grave glen]

Chelsea were unstable, Barca Spurs Lyon all shit

[alpine socket]

Eibarman to save them!!

[open raft]

yeah because he's a pure striker

[empty willow]

Still big games

[grave glen]

but yeah it's not exactly Lewa's problem that he faced them

[open raft]

Lewa missed quite a few chances against Barca

[grave glen]

he's invisible apart from the goals in SFs and QFs

it's preferential

people may prefer players who run the show

[open raft]

could've been 10-2 lol

[grave glen]

I like Muller more than Lewa because he creates everything for Bayern

[wooden sail]

He has a shot conversion rate of 40 from 60 shots on target this season

[empty willow]

I prefer them but I still consider lewa a big game player

[open raft]

dude I thought you were going to talk about big games

[wooden sail]

And lewandowski didnt score ucl knockout goals from 2018 to 2020 feb yh

[grave glen]

fair, but running the show in big games is what I was referring to

[wooden sail]

Muller was our big game player

[grave glen]

that's a tier above

[open raft]

yes

[grave glen]

YEES my man Muller gets some recognition at last

[empty willow]

Ofc but lewa is still a big game striker imo

Muller underrated asf

[open raft]

Muller is so underrated

[grave glen]

big game striker, that's it, bullseye

[wooden sail]

Muller has most assists in europe this season

[grave glen]

like I mean Lewa is amazing

[wooden sail]

Last season too

[wooden sail]

But no one talks bout him

[grave glen]

but if you replace him with Haaland, he'll probably be as good

[empty willow]

Tbh neither Messi or Ronaldo have been big game players this year

[open raft]

yeah

that's actually sad

[grave glen]

funny how Bayern haters keep blaming Muller and Lewa for doing things for each other

[empty willow]

Lewa used muller to beat mullers record

[open raft]

😂

[grave glen]

"Lewa scores only because of Muller and Muller assists only because of Lewa, they are both so bad"

[wooden sail]

Lol

[open raft]

lmao

[empty willow]

Lmao

[open raft]

Ronaldo might join psg btw

[grave glen]

even KDB is underrated

he's a big game player

runs the show in most big games

[open raft]

Yeah

[grave glen]

is underrated asf

(not more than Muller though)

[wooden sail]

Lewandowski scores from almost all positions i dont see haaland as prolific rn

[grave glen]

I hope not

[empty willow]

Muller most underrated player itw

[open raft]

Idk about that tho

[grave glen]

yeah not rn but he'll grow, 100% sure about that

[inland hound]

Di Maria,Muller, benzema

[wooden sail]

Muller most underrated player of the century
Even benzema gets recognition

[open raft]

That's too much

[grave glen]

di Maria behaves like a fucker so I hate him

but yeah is a good player

[empty willow]

Nah benzema is better than muller but muller is way more underrated

[wooden sail]

Ok lets keep most underrated player who is playing rn

[alpine socket]

Benzema is underrated outside la liga

[grave glen]

Benzema is finally getting the limelight

[open raft]

What about biscuits?

[open raft]

Busquets*

[empty willow]

Di maria is not really underrated imo

[grave glen]

agree

[wooden sail]

Noo benzema is getting the praise
Muller isnt still

[open raft]

Pedro?

[inland hound]

ye

[grave glen]

he's rated fine within La Liga at least

[grave glen]

mad underrated yeah

[open raft]

Dzeko is underrated too

[inland hound]

wdym he is easily top 5 CDM of all time

[grave glen]

but Muller has been running the show and still doesnt get rated as I said

[inland hound]

ye

[grave glen]

so that places Pedro behind Muller

[empty willow]

U wanna know who’s underrated this year?

[open raft]

most people don't even know about him

[grave glen]

top 3 imo

[empty willow]

This might sound crazy

[grave glen]

KDB

[empty willow]

But messi and Ronaldo are underrated this year

[open raft]

you would say Messi

[grave glen]

Ron yes Messi maybe

[empty willow]

AND Ronaldo

[open raft]

I agree with both

[grave glen]

Idk lol I've not heard Juve fans talk about Ronaldo

[open raft]

yes

[grave glen]

but I have heard Barcelona fans talk about Messi

so no clue

Bruno

[open raft]

Ronaldo has been more underrated than Messi tho

[empty willow]

Juve fans talk ab ronaldo a lot

[grave glen]

has been overrated

[grave glen]

by far

[empty willow]

Yes

[inland hound]

Mathus,vierra clear

[open raft]

If Ronaldo was in Bayern's team he would've broken Muller's record too

[grave glen]

isn't even United's best player and still getting Ballon d'Or shouts from deluded fanbase

[grave glen]

that's why he's the GOAT

you put the other GOAT in there to create goals

[inland hound]

no

[grave glen]

they'll combine to score 80+ goals lol

[grave glen]

that's why top 3 xD

[open raft]

Tbh Messi and Ronaldo both aren't goats

[grave glen]

Bruno is overrated man cmon

[inland hound]

there is italian CDM he is better i forgot his Name\

[wooden sail]

People arguing between kdb and fernandes
While kdb has 15 assists bruno has 11
Muller has 24🤣🤣🤣

[open raft]

We haven't seen Pele and Maradona play

And other underrated players

[inland hound]

United Fanbase are de;uded

[empty willow]

Pele most overrated player oat

[grave glen]

Brazil's world cup winning squads are full of em

[inland hound]

but muller plays 2nd strikrt

[open raft]

Yea

[inland hound]

How tf is he overrated

[open raft]

lmao no

[wooden sail]

Muller is a CAM/RW hybrid called a raumdeuter

[empty willow]

Not even top 3

[wooden sail]

Mostly a CAM

[grave glen]

De Bruyne is an advanced 8, it's much harder for him to get ahead and create goals AND score AND run the game

[open raft]

[grave glen]

he is a little overrated, not too overrated htough

[grave glen]

top 5 easy

[empty willow]

Played vs farmers, best players on his own team

[empty willow]

He’s 4th for me

[grave glen]

was waiting for someone to say this xD

[inland hound]

different ERAs Hard to compare tbh

[open raft]

hmm that's true

[grave glen]

same yeah

[open raft]

YESS

[empty willow]

Literal farmers

[wooden sail]

Yeah kdb makes key passes
But muller does key passes too

[empty willow]

Football was their part time job

[grave glen]

didn't man cmon world cup '58 was good

[empty willow]

Pele has like hundreds of unofficial goals

[grave glen]

De Bruyne's scored in a lot of big games too

[open raft]

Dude we haven't seen the matches

[inland hound]

if pele and Maradona played with current gen Tech advancements deffo would be the 🐐

[grave glen]

no yeah that's Pele being stupid but that doesn't make him worse

[grave glen]

don't forget Cruyff Garrincha and van Basten

[empty willow]

Ik but it’s a fact that he played vs ppl who had football as a part time job

[open raft]

People would be saying Messi and Ronaldo played against farmers after 50 years

[open raft]

Yeah probably

[grave glen]

I don't see it happening

[inland hound]

Maradona 🔥

[grave glen]

football is becoming monotonous

[wooden sail]

Yeah but muller edges over kdb but no one talks about muller
Doesnt mean kdb is bad

[empty willow]

1. Messi 2. Cr7 3. Maradona 4. Pele 5. Cruyff

[inland hound]

8 Dribbles pg in 1986 WC

[open raft]

Yeah man Maradona is top 2 def

[grave glen]

longevity + flair is not likely to be seen again

[wooden sail]

I dont think so football has reached its peak ig

[grave glen]

people used to focus on flair

then Messi and Ronaldo hit their peak

[empty willow]

Messi and cr7 then Maradona

[inland hound]

i mean have u wacthed cruyff? Dona? Pele?

[grave glen]

now people focus on longevity

[open raft]

Hmm I think so too but we never know

[grave glen]

so they can't be compared to Messi and Ronaldo

[inland hound]

Longetivity then Messi and ron

easily

[grave glen]

not just that

[open raft]

Dude Maradona > Cr7 easily

[empty willow]

Nah

[wooden sail]

Yeah

[grave glen]

I'm sure Haaland and Mbappé will play for 10+ years at the top

but they will never have the flair like Messi and Ronaldo

[inland hound]

World cup 2022 will be key

[grave glen]

that's what sets them apart

[open raft]

I would say peak Van Basten was very good too

[grave glen]

playing for long and playing beautifully

[grave glen]

injury ruined him

[empty willow]

R9 and henry clear

[inland hound]

If Ron wins alongside being the best player in WC surely he would be

[open raft]

R9 yes idk about Henry

[empty willow]

Henry clear of van basten

[open raft]

🤔

[empty willow]

Maybe I’m being a bit biased

[open raft]

Difficult to decide

[empty willow]

Cuz Henry is one my favourite players oat

But I think Henry > van basten

[open raft]

Idk man too tough for me

[empty willow]

Ok lol

[grave glen]

2 Ballons d'Or bro

Henry deserved around 2 too but

[empty willow]

Henry got robbed once

[grave glen]

Idk lol this is where football gets unfair

[empty willow]

Henry had a way better era than van basten

[grave glen]

Yep, definitely

[open raft]

Lol that's why I don't compare with ballon d'Ors

[empty willow]

True comparing eras is hard

[open raft]

yeah

[grave glen]

Played in the most defensive era of Serie A

[open raft]

Okay what about George Best?

[open raft]

Idk anything about him

[grave glen]

Yeah I mean you can't call Einstein less intelligent than Hawking because Einstein didn't have an iPhone

[inland hound]

hes a Fucking Baller

[open raft]

Lmaooo

[grave glen]

Rly good

[open raft]

Yeah

[empty willow]

Nah that era from 1998-2008 was the best for me

[grave glen]

2010s have been the best too

[empty willow]

Yes

[open raft]

add three more years

[grave glen]

If you look at others with Messi and Ronaldo

[empty willow]

The legends of that era stopped around 2008 tbh

[grave glen]

Iniesta, Xavi, Modric, Kroos etc all have had flair + longevity

[open raft]

Yeah but 2010 wc was amazing too

[empty willow]

2008 the Messi ron era started

[grave glen]

That's the most unique part about this decade

[grave glen]

2007 imo

[empty willow]

Yes maybe

[open raft]

I feel bad for them

They got overshadowed by media's manipulation

[grave glen]

It used to be all flair before and will be all longevity afterwards

[grave glen]

Well Messi and Ronaldo were better than them too

[open raft]

Yeah but they deserve credit too

[empty willow]

U guys know what’s crazy and o can’t believe I just found this out?

[open raft]

A lot of credit

[empty willow]

Neymars been at the top since 2014

Tbh

[open raft]

Wha-

[empty willow]

He’s underrated asf nowadays

[inland hound]

only 2 years lmao

[grave glen]

It's just unfortunate

[empty willow]

Wut

[inland hound]

he just get injured

[grave glen]

And declining since 2016 lol

[grave glen]

Is hella wasteful

[inland hound]

2014-2017

[empty willow]

Nah tbh he’s still been at the top

[open raft]

He destroyed his career by joining psg

[grave glen]

Can't win matches

[inland hound]

hes been injured

a lot

[grave glen]

Is a complete crybaby

[empty willow]

The 2 years he’s healthy, leads psg to ucl final then ucl semis

[empty willow]

True

[grave glen]

Entitled baby

[open raft]

lol

[grave glen]

Bro 2021 was all Mbappé

[empty willow]

Maybe not 2018 and 2019 then

[inland hound]

well last season he only scored 19 goals

[grave glen]

Hat-trick Barça brace Bayern

[open raft]

@grave glen you personally don't like neymar too

[grave glen]

I don't

But it's true

[empty willow]

Neymar was the main man vs Bayern bro

[grave glen]

He's wasteful

[grave glen]

Second leg only

[empty willow]

Nah he dominated first leg too

He’s the key for psg

[grave glen]

Wasn't impactful

[empty willow]

2 assists

[grave glen]

He's good to watch

[open raft]

I didn't watch first leg T.T

[grave glen]

Can't decide games

[inland hound]

as Mbappe

[grave glen]

Ehhh the first one was just an error by Neuer

[grave glen]

In general as well

[empty willow]

Can clearly see the hate

[grave glen]

You can see what he did vs City and compare it to what he could have done

[grave glen]

Lmao I never tried hiding it too

[empty willow]

Yes he wasn’t great vs city

[empty willow]

Lmao

[open raft]

Lolll

[grave glen]

Your team needs a goal

And you're busy performing 15 skill moves to beat one guy instead of rushing on the counter

[open raft]

tbh we shouldn't compare players

[grave glen]

That's just dumb

[open raft]

just enjoy the game

[grave glen]

It's only a natural tendency lol but yeah that's a fair point

[open raft]

Lol

Garrincha is also very underrated

[pure flax]

Atletico are winning la liga

[grave glen]

Yep

Socrates too

[open raft]

lol we really don't know

they almost lost today

[open raft]

yea

[wooden sail]

The final matchdays are gonna be at the same time

Its gonna be an agueroooooo moment for suarez

Gotta find some good commentators for matches

[inland hound]

Hope atleti 🍼

[wooden sail]

Lol wish you luck

[open raft]

Simeone deserves the title

[keen gorge]

Don't jinx it please

Partido a partido

[pure flax]

I’ve said it for the past week so

[grave glen]

what a moment

1 More Job 🙏🙏🙏😭

[opal sigil]

Your welcome atleti

[inland hound]

🍼 🍼

[strong forum]

[wooden sail]

The adrenaline lmao his veins are pumped af

[zealous flower]

🤤

Bro I was celebrating so hard when suarez scored

im sooooooo happy

[grave glen]

same

i was screaming lol my cat got shocked

[zealous flower]

lol

i took off my shirt

and thanking god

[mighty iron]

barca needs to kick koeman

[grave glen]

I smashed my phone while watching the stream was on the coutch thankfully

To every barca fan-
If I'm totally honest Koeman did not do a bad job and doesn't deserve the sack. Why you ask. Messi wasn't on form in half the season and despite the crisis he got barca a UCL position I'd be greatful if I was a barca fan you can't always get everything not even with the best Player in the world. I dont know what barca fans expect but koeman did fine this season in my book and he can qin the league if he gets transfers in the summer

[potent spade]

man finally someone that understands

just having messi aint gonna cut it either

you need more than just that

its a team sport

[grave glen]

Do you guys see Messi extending?

[potent spade]

and a part of their team, mainly the part that tries to keep the ball out of their goal, is not doing a good job

[grave glen]

I heard Barca are willing to sell Griezmann because he fails to play in a 4-3-3 System

[potent spade]

man

they should have obviously never gotten him in the first place

he didn't fit the team and everyone could see it apart from that idiot board

he's still doing pretty well despite all that

he was perfect at Atletico he should have never left

[grave glen]

the most stupid thing about that is

before he signed for barca, 1 year before he signed a 5 year contract with Atleti

where everyone thought he is gonna become an Atleti legend he betrayed them

🤦

[unkempt dew]

Barca board = 🤡

[grave glen]

Neymar left Barca in 2017 and they still try to find his replacement lol

[potent spade]

Griezmann will never reach the level he did anymore at Atletico

Griezmann should have stayed at Atletico and Neymar should have stayed at Barca tbh

I dont understand sometimes tbh

You are successful at a huge club why would you want to leave risking your downfall

Why would you go to Ligue 1 when you're in the best league in the world (at the time)

[grave glen]

I think one of the main reason was, that he feelt he doesnt get credit because of messi

[grave glen]

That's one of the only two reasons

And money

[potent spade]

And he didn't realize you will never get as much credit in ligue 1 as in la liga or premier league?

[grave glen]

He wanted to bring UCL to Paris

[potent spade]

he never will

[grave glen]

they lack mentality

@potent spade u barca fan

[potent spade]

I dont know, theres just always someone better than them

[potent spade]

no but ive watched them

[grave glen]

@potent spade what club u support then?

[potent spade]

i only go to local club here in netherlands

i dont really support a la liga club

but i like watching it

its good football

@grave glen you must be very excited

atletico can win the league soon

[grave glen]

Yep

[potent spade]

if i had to choose a la liga club before it would be barcelona because of how cruyff reformed them, he was a big legend here and my family lived in his neighbourhood

but now after this super league shit that barcelona is still supporting

am pretty pissed off about their statement about it

[grave glen]

@potent spade when can I attach files?

Lol I want to attach an image

[potent spade]

uh you can drag the image to the chat

or the + button

next to the message box

[grave glen]

@potent spade no like what rank makes me get it

[potent spade]

I have no idea. You can't do it?

maybe you have to be one rank higher then

it can't be high

[grave glen]

@potent spade can you tell me where the howler category is?

[potent spade]

its in #517769626676101130 and then the logo

[grave glen]

Can anyone tell me why the heck ppl want Xavi to takeover?

mate he doesnt even have european experience

[plain elbow]

https://twitter.com/HagridFCB/status/1394071476769370114?s=20

Reshad Rahman ✆ (@HagridFCB)

(🌕) BREAKING: Barcelona has already 99% decided to dismiss Ronald Koeman after the season ends. He isn’t Joan Laporta’s main choice. The only thing that would keep Koeman at the club next season is if the club is unable to find a replacement. @EsportsRAC1 #FCB 🇳🇱🚨🚨

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[potent spade]

lol barca have another 🤡 as their president

[plain elbow]

it's a shame the koeman reign took a turn for the worse in the last three weeks

[potent spade]

they can also you know, give him another year and see what is going to happen

instead of keep changing managers

[plain elbow]

i would've given him another season if the right transfer reinforcements came in.

[potent spade]

koeman is clearly not incompetent, i think he can do it with the right players

barcelona's cb's are just a disaster

if they hire a new manager and keep the same players its going to be the same shit all over again

[unkempt dew]

fucking clowns

but then again not my club so not my problem

hopefully these guys continue their clownery

so we can snatch Messi

[plain elbow]

[grave glen]

I think Messi will leave barca after this season

@plain elbow How would you rate Barcas season from 1/10

[plain elbow]

5.5/10

slight improvement from last season, but not enough to build off of.

[potent spade]

theyve neglected their defence

[unkempt dew]

what was last seasons rating?

[potent spade]

its only going to get worse if they dont get better defenders next season

lenglet is turning into a clown tbh

look at that second yellow card he got

my god

[plain elbow]

0/10

[potent spade]

you cant challenge for the la liga title with a defence like this its a miracle they got this far

[unkempt dew]

Ok thats way more than a slight improvement

[potent spade]

they need to get rid of umtiti and pique

you might as well get rid of lenglet if he keeps playing like this as well

he needs a strong defender next to him

but barca dont have one

[grave glen]

0 Trophies won, 2 different coaches, the 8-2 and many other thing

[plain elbow]

clement lenglet has caused me more mental pain than when we had dymtro chygyrnsky and a washed up lilian thuram is defense.

[grave glen]

Barca Decline started since Anfield

[plain elbow]

nononono

[grave glen]

yes.

[plain elbow]

the decline started six years ago

[grave glen]

wtf

bro

[unkempt dew]

This season, 1 trophy won, 1 new coach, and 4-1. Things have gotten 50% better

[plain elbow]

when our socios voted bartomeu in

[potent spade]

imagine if barcelona weren't idiots and outbid juventus on de ligt, and didn't get griezmann. they would have a defensive leader now

[grave glen]

2019 you looked like the clear favourite to win the whole thing

[plain elbow]

the results in europe and the transfer business should tell

we haven’t won the champions league in six fucking years

year after year, these players and those stupid board members from the past regime, leaving us fans looking like mugs.

[grave glen]

Barca decline started since Anfield because Barca would have surely won against Spurs in the Final

[solemn rain]

Barça in need of a big restructuring process by the directors have fucked their finances up.

[potent spade]

why they fucking buy griezmann for 135m or something

and then after that

[solemn rain]

Barça is practically broke

[potent spade]

oh oops

we're in massive debt

[unkempt dew]

NOT WITH POCHHHHH

https://tenor.com/view/eyebrows-pochettino-mauricio-pochettino-gif-13107871

[solemn rain]

The directors are a bunch fucktards and la masia is not producing any great talent anymore

[plain elbow]

trust me, the decline started far before anfield and rome. we’ve had to deal with two presidents over the past decade that have completely used the club for sneaky stuff, and tried to change its model.

[potent spade]

barcelona fans are all excited about araujo and mingueza because they were in their beloved la masia but the truth is they arent world class defenders

[plain elbow]

mingueza has next season to truly prove himself.

[potent spade]

de ligt would have made this defence so much better, i still think its a shame he went to juventus even after all this time

[solemn rain]

For me Barça has been playing too much touch without really generating anything. Back in the day they would have 80% possession of the ball and they would score at least 3 goals per game

[plain elbow]

i think araujo will indeed by a solid defender in the future. he needs someone good next to him.

[grave glen]

Isn’t going to PSG, is going to MLS or staying at Barca

[unkempt dew]

Messi at MLS at age 34, can't imagine

[potent spade]

For me Barcelona are not prepared for the counter attack of other teams. They concede too many goals because of defensive mistakes.

[grave glen]

He wants to play in the US lol

[unkempt dew]

yes but now is too soon lol maybe like when he's 40 for a player of his quality

[plain elbow]

well, we kind of need a rejuvenation of the squad to physically be able to play more positive/vertical football.

atm, you cannot turn this team into a gegenpressing machine.

[solemn rain]

@potent spade completely agree, but their counter attacks are not effective either. Too much touch but not many goals