la-liga

[grave glen]

[grim thicket]

i just said, ignore that dude, he is changing sides and opinions within seconds

[solemn rain]

It is my duty not to be bias bro

[grim thicket]

but yeah, maybe we wont win silverware this season, but im still proud of what we have achieved after going through so many injuries to so many key players, we have like what? 58 injuries rn i think? or is it 60?

and even then we managed to get to the UCL semis, and are still contending in laliga after we were written off much earlier

[solemn rain]

Respect to RM coming from a Barça fan

[grim thicket]

now all we need is a smart off season

[covert monolith]

lmao apparently cdr isnt a trophy to some here

[plain elbow]

we’ll also need one of those.

[grim thicket]

it is a trophy, just not a relevant one....

tell me honestly, would you say its been a successful season if you have just won the CDR?

i wont

[plain elbow]

we have a MASSIVE summer ahead

[grim thicket]

yes barca do need some big sales

especially coutinho

that man needs to go

[plain elbow]

hehe

there’s a list of them!

[grim thicket]

we need to get rid of marcelo, isco, mariano, bale, hazard....you get my point

[opal sigil]

Only braithwaithe and umiti on the market rn

[inland hound]

1 million😭

[plain elbow]

i’m more concern of who we’re moving out rather than who comes in.

[inland hound]

UCL semi u get 100 million

[grim thicket]

and yeah we are getting alaba on a free (again not a fan of that deal considering his wages vs his output but we move) but we need to sign someone that is a known scorer

[opal sigil]

Trophy still counts

[plain elbow]

100 million?

please insight me was a source

[grim thicket]

not a 100m lmao

around 8m i think

[inland hound]

Quality> Quantity

[grave glen]

Love how Madrid fans think Copa del Rey isnt a big trophy when they had a whole custom bus and a whole parade for it.

[opal sigil]

Lol wut

Rma didnt win ucl

[grim thicket]

and still that was an unsuccessful season

[inland hound]

UCL semi> CDR

[opal sigil]

....

[plain elbow]

ahh yes, back when they smothered the trophy under the bus.

[opal sigil]

Thats not a trophy sir

[plain elbow]

brilliant

[grim thicket]

lol

[inland hound]

like CDR is a big trophy

[opal sigil]

Its the domestic cup

[grave glen]

It’s a domestic cup lmao

[grim thicket]

cmon you seriously dont believe your season is successful if yoou have won just the CDR

like srsly do you?

[inland hound]

UCL semi u get more 💸

[solemn rain]

RM without CR7 can’t and won’t be successful

[grim thicket]

that makes sense for teams like valencia and bilbao

but not barca cmon

[opal sigil]

Anyways we won another trophy in 18 19 then cause we went to semis

[grim thicket]

or real

[grave glen]

We didn’t say our season is successful where just happy we won a trophy and not trophyless like last season

[grim thicket]

yeah thats fair

[plain elbow]

considering the state we were in at the start of the season, the cdr just gives us a very small lift, just vaguely.

[solemn rain]

Barça title in total =97 RM=95 just saying 😅

[inland hound]

Happy with ur Big game performances?

[grim thicket]

im soooo tempted to send a gif rn, but i wont 😂

[grave glen]

no?

[plain elbow]

if anything, I was expecting a trophyless/top four mountain climb at the start of the season.

[grim thicket]

oh yes barca had a rough start to their season

13th yikes

but well, sociedad were top of the league at that time so 😂

[solemn rain]

The dominant reign of Spanish teams is over.

[grim thicket]

anything is possible

https://tenor.com/view/troll-bait-take-the-gif-18874898

you done now? or you got more hot takes?

[solemn rain]

RM paying referees and they still can win 🤦‍♂️

[grim thicket]

let it out of your system

[grave glen]

?

[grim thicket]

im not talking to you lol.....we all know who is trying to bait rlly rlly hard and failing in epic fashion in here rn

[grave glen]

Ohhh

k

[stiff fjord]

facts

[grim thicket]

so....back to that....sociedad at the top of the league was rlly rlly cool ngl

[solemn rain]

Anyway fuck RM and congrats to all my Atlhetico Madrid fans on winning the league title. Well deserved 👏👏👏👏

[inland hound]

[plain elbow]

paying refs? cmon

[inland hound]

childish lmao

[grim thicket]

see, dont take the bait

[late kernel]

You didn't have to take off Villarreal in ur username Cent 😭

[grim thicket]

i was fed up of people thinking im a villarreal fan lmao

[late kernel]

Oh yeah, that Arsenal fan lol

He got confused for a sec

[grim thicket]

that wasnt the only dude

lol anyway

i needed to take it off before our villarreal game

gonna put it back after laliga season ends

[late kernel]

Ok night Cent

[grim thicket]

night!!

[grave glen]

The debate on Real Madrid vs Barca is dumb

Real Madrid is the biggest club not of spain but of Europe and football

Simple

Barca dominated the 00s and the early 2010s

But overall, its Madrid

[grave glen]

It’s not a debate it’s Rivalry and a derby

And no I am not a real madrid fan

Madrid fans are obviously gonna say Madrid is better and Barca fans are gonna say Barca is better lol there’s no changing that.

Not really, it’s possible to be objective about it even if you’re passionate about your team

[potent spade]

What is the debate of madrid and barcelona even

[stiff fjord]

tf

[grim thicket]

ig its about who is better historically and who is better now

[stiff fjord]

dont know both teams are shit rn

[potent spade]

He's right tho

[grave glen]

What’s hard to understand by what I said it’s the simplest statement ever

[potent spade]

There is no debate though?

[keen gorge]

It is a political rivalry rather than a sporting one

The derby is Madrid derby

[potent spade]

its also a sporting rivalry

its both

[grave glen]

.

[potent spade]

oh I missed that

my bad

[grave glen]

Every day I see the same stupid debate on whether who is the best team of all time

And I am saying that its very dumb to do so

For example I like my team Union Espanola, from chile

I can objectively say there are three bigger teams historically

La U, Catolica and Colo Colo

Trying to convince others that my team is bigger than colo colo is dumb

Same applies into the barca-madrid thing

Historically only though.

The debate whether who’s the best in form is valid

And fun to engage in

[potent spade]

even if your team is bigger, its still dumb to constantly go and flex about it

[keen gorge]

Barcelona's turnaround was the end of the 80's when Cruyff became the manager

[grim thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/real-madrid-hala-madrid-champions-trophy-gif-11051094

[keen gorge]

Our turnaround was the end of the 80's as well when Jesus Gil became our owner

[grave glen]

I don’t really see how this is related to what I am trying to say here but sure, nobody likes somebody flexing all the time

[grim thicket]

atleti's big break was probably simeone taking charge

the man took the team ahead by leaps and bounds

[potent spade]

? what

how is that not related lol

im saying the entire debate is stupid

whether youre on the bigger or smaller team side

[grave glen]

True, I’m not sure thought but I think they’ve had some periods of greatness before too

[grim thicket]

i dont think anybdy else couldve taken the atleti team of that quality in 2014 to the UCL finals

[grave glen]

Atleti had some leagues before simeone

[grave glen]

It was rly unexpected yes

[grim thicket]

yes they did, but they were never consistently contenders

[grim thicket]

same goes for the milan final too

[grave glen]

It is entirely irrelevant to what I am pointing out, since I never claimed fans of big teams should be flexing about their teams

[grave glen]

U mean inter?

[potent spade]

wtf

ok you do you

[keen gorge]

2016 UCL final

[grave glen]

Ahh yeah

[grim thicket]

no the 2016 final

yeah

[grave glen]

That was so sad

So close to winning

[grim thicket]

juanfran's face when he missed that pen and saw CR7 stepping up 😬

that was a huge yikes

[grave glen]

Let’s stop discussing mate u clearly don’t have basic knowledge on how to discuss a topic

[grim thicket]

in both of those finals atleti came so close, and yet so far

[grave glen]

Yep

[potent spade]

lol you don't even understand what im saying apparently so yes lets stop

[grave glen]

Even the 2014 final they were very close before completely falling flat to exhaustion

They were 1-1 for a long time

[grim thicket]

yeah real just carried on with the same intensity in ET, while atleti just couldnt anymore

[inland hound]

https://tenor.com/view/footballer-sport-football-real-madrid-rmcf-gif-17708352

[grim thicket]

they had a lot of older players too

gabi was in his last season i think right?

so was fernando torres

[grave glen]

2016 team was dope

[grim thicket]

i think there was david villa too if im not wrong

[grave glen]

Griezman

[keen gorge]

They retired 2018

David Villa 2014

[grave glen]

wasnt villa in 2014 team

[grim thicket]

yes

im talking about 2014....gabi kinda started declining after that imo

torres was never rlly good after his liverpool stint...he was just average

[grave glen]

Forgot augusto existed

He was pretty good in 2016

[grim thicket]

oh shit yes

[grave glen]

came in winter iirc

[keen gorge]

He is a Cadiz player now

[grim thicket]

there was another player in 2014 that im forgetting

[grave glen]

He must be like 36 yrs

That bench was class too

[keen gorge]

Raul Garcia?

[plain elbow]

diego ribas...

[grim thicket]

YES

[grave glen]

Partey, carrasco, lucas

[grim thicket]

raul garcia

and filipe luis

[grave glen]

José sosa was in the bench

[grim thicket]

oh yeah there was tiago too....did he retire after 2016?

[grave glen]

I think the 2014 team was:

[keen gorge]

Tiago retired in 2017 and became a manager in Portugal

[grave glen]

Courtouis - filipe/godin/miranda/juanfran - Turan/tiago/gabi/koke villa/costa

[grim thicket]

honestly, that team was nowhere near in quality compared to the teams they were contending with in the UCL, they just got by through simeone's shrewd disciplinary tactics and mentality

the 2016 team was slightly better in quality ig, with griezmann as a star player (who missed that penalty), koke and saul starting to rise

[grave glen]

Yeah they got thru because they were a team

And not individual stars

[grim thicket]

yep

[grave glen]

Atletico has arguably had much better teams since

The team they have today?

X5 times better in quality

[grim thicket]

oh yeah definitely

they have spent a loooot more money on this team

look at felix for example

[grave glen]

I mean position by position its almost uncomparable with some exceptions

Yep

Agreed

[grim thicket]

5 years ago, atleti wouldnt have even thought of spending that money on a player like felix

[grave glen]

Or having suarez

[grim thicket]

but they did make shrewd signings too

getting suarez for almost nothing

[grave glen]

almost all atletico’s buys are big ones

[grim thicket]

getting kondogbia to replace partey

[grave glen]

back in 2014 u had gabi who came for free i think

Tiago came for free

juanfran was a mediocre winger from osasuna

[mellow light]

Suarez was basically free

[grim thicket]

oh how are we forgetting lemar

lemar was another big money signing

[grave glen]

U realize they pay him a shit ton in salary right

[grim thicket]

that atleti wouldnt have made 5 years ago

[mellow light]

You can't win everythin

[grave glen]

Arguablt llorente too... or even trippier

Trippier was a epl starter

Atleti never bought from epl cause expensive

[grim thicket]

eh llorente was a shrewd signing id say

we kinda "gave him away"

as we did for kovacic to chelsea

[grave glen]

what ? lol go talk to ramon ur as clueless

How much did llorente cost?

[grim thicket]

lemme check

[grave glen]

I thought they paid like 40mjll

Might be wrong

[grim thicket]

30m

ok yeah maybe a signing on the more expensive side considering atleti's other signings

[keen gorge]

He was bought as a CDM

30m for a sub CDM is not low

[grim thicket]

he played CDM throughout his career, at castilla and at madrid before joining atleti lol

dunno how that turned out to become such a quality winger, arguably one the best in the league

[grave glen]

Llorente is so fucking good.

[potent spade]

you just have a problem understanding that a debate has two sides, its okay no need to go on any further

[grave glen]

I remember watching him with Madrid, i think it was Solari (?) who let him play a lot

[grim thicket]

on the other end of the spectrum, casemiro, who played as a no. 9 at castilla, became one of the best CDMs in the world

[grave glen]

And already then I was amazed by his playing

[grave glen]

Or Marcelo who came in winter season 07

practically an unknown from brazil

[grim thicket]

oh yeah marcelo was a nobody

but i was talking more about positional shifts

[grave glen]

Casemiro is a pig but a fantastic player

[grim thicket]

like llorente CDM->winger

[grave glen]

I really hate him though lol

Very nasty player

[grim thicket]

and casemiro striker->CDM

[grave glen]

Casemiro was a striker? Damn

[grim thicket]

he was early on, at castilla

[grave glen]

well another positional shift that was a gold mine was Juanfran

[inland hound]

llorente is a winger now?

[grave glen]

He was a winger for osasuna and became a fantastic RB for atleti

[grim thicket]

winger/forward...whatever you wanna call it

[keen gorge]

Llorente RW

[grave glen]

Gareth bale was an LB with tottenham early on

although that one was inevitable

[grim thicket]

oh yes i was about to mention gareth bale lmao

[grave glen]

He was basically made for LW

[grim thicket]

but it isnt rlly that difficult for wing backs to become wingers or the other way round

[grave glen]

Its been a trend

J Navas

usually older wingers that lose pace become right backs or left backs

Antonio valencia for man utd same

[late kernel]

We didn't talk enough about this 👀

[grim thicket]

lmao

destroyed some quality equipment right there

should be fined imo 😂

[late kernel]

That Granada goalie has a great vision ngl, gg for aiming that drone lol

[grim thicket]

oof yes, sad that he didnt do much today besides that and the save on the benzema header

[late kernel]

Yeah true

[grim thicket]

i am on a miguel high!!

man did he play perfect today

hope he can continue this in the remaining two games, and we can finally say screw marcelo without fearing who is gonna back mendy up in the future

[late kernel]

Some people said that he was better than Marcelo at his prime lmfao

I was like whaaaaaat?

I know he's talented and promising but come on...

[grim thicket]

bruh no

marcelo at his prime was one of the best attacking left backs ever (dont bring maldini here ffs)

but he showed some rlly promissing signs

[late kernel]

Yes I know, he impressed me with that delicious assist for Modric to open the score 😋

[grim thicket]

oof yes

perfect through ball

and such a great run by modric

[late kernel]

Yep great player as always

[grave glen]

Top left backs since 2000s:

1. Lahm
2. Abidal
3. Zanetti
4. Maldini
5. Marcelo

Fuck I missed roberto carlos

[grim thicket]

lahm isnt a left back....

neither was zanetti before inter

[grave glen]

fuck can’t forget evra aswell

[grim thicket]

both were right backs

[grave glen]

Zanetti and Lahm both played as left backs too

Matter fact zanetti would play anywhere in the back line

That was how good he was

[grim thicket]

for a very small portion of their career.i dont think thats enough to consider them in the list of top left backs....but again even if zanetti can be considered, lahm most def not

[grave glen]

before inter bro played almost all his life in inter... inter is the part of his career that matters

Take out lahm and zanetti then if u want

I’ll add roberto carlos and evra

[grim thicket]

yeah

[grave glen]

Best center backs since the 2000s

1. Ramos
2. Puyol
3. Vidiç
4. T Silva
5. Lucio

[grim thicket]

wb nesta

[grave glen]

I’m prolly missing some here that could be taken in and replaced

Nesta yes

For me Lucio was one of the best CB i ever seen

[grim thicket]

id put nesta over puyol tbh, and maybe even over ramos

[grave glen]

His presence and touch with the ball

[strong forum]

[grave glen]

He was so confident in walking forward and playing passes and whatnot

[grim thicket]

oh yes lucio commanded the defence

id take out thiago silva and put nesta in that list

also maybe maldini too, since maldini has played a considerable amount of his career as a CB, and is considered one of the best defenders of all time

[grave glen]

Best goalkeepers since 2000s:

1. Casillas
2. Van der Sar
3. Buffon
4. Navas
5. Oblak

[grim thicket]

no neuer huh

[grave glen]

Fair silva is a bit overrated

[grave glen]

fuck big miss

hm oblak out for neuer

[grim thicket]

mhm

[grave glen]

Neuer has more titles

[grim thicket]

neuer has the accolades

[grave glen]

Ye

[grim thicket]

also what about oliver kahn

[grave glen]

I considered him

But no

[grim thicket]

hmm

[grave glen]

Neuer better than kahn imo

[grim thicket]

i wouldve put kahn over navas

and neuer over oblak

[grave glen]

Navas is just to underrated

[grim thicket]

he is underrated yes

[grave glen]

kahn also played 94-00

[grim thicket]

coz those real madrid teams were absolutely star studded

he played till 2008, but the better part of his career was during the very early 2000s and late 90s

[grave glen]

yeah

so he’s more of a player to consider for the 90s

[grim thicket]

hmm

[grave glen]

I’d include other gk’s that I personally thought were rly good for honourable

Julio Cesar

Back in 2010 he was amazing

hmm

[grim thicket]

hmm yes 2010 inter

[grave glen]

Victor Valdes

De gea of course

Cech

How could i forget cech

[grim thicket]

de gea fell of....a lot

[grave glen]

Fr

[grim thicket]

im kinda glad we didnt go through with the de gea transfer

[grave glen]

Courtouis

[grim thicket]

and kept navas and got courtois later

[grave glen]

Claudio Bravo

controversial perhaps

Oh and lloris

[grim thicket]

diego lopez was a great keeper, altho he mostly came off the bench at madrid, certainly not one of the best, but he was one of my fav players

[grave glen]

Dida

Lopez was alright yeah

Mandanda was good and consistent through his career

But he basically never left marseille

[grim thicket]

asenjo isnt rated by many, but i consider him to be a good keeper too

[grave glen]

Oh handanovic is a other good gk

[grim thicket]

handanovic fell hard this season

[grave glen]

Willy caballero

Alisson aswell for pool

[grim thicket]

alisson too this season...huge yikes

but ig having nat phillips and ozan kabak instead of vvd in your backline would do that to you

but id rather lets talk about the spanish league players only, instead of overall

[stiff fjord]

You guys had this conversation for way too long lmao @grim thicket @grave glen

[grave glen]

Or rhys williams lol

[grave glen]

In that case best gk’s since 2000s would be

Casillas, Navas, Valdes, Ter stegen

Courtouis, Oblak, de gea

Cañizares

Claudio Bravo

Abbondanzieri i guess

Palop

Kameni

Diego Alves

Welp i’m alone

💀

[still pagoda]

Bruh leave him alone lol

They won't stop until he has a broken leg

[mellow light]

Honest question for Barca fans

But why do you guys have the same back line after all the players in the back line keep underperforming

That 8:2 rly should have made them buy some new defenders

[grave glen]

I need honest opinions from other teams than barca fans

Do you guys want Messi to leave Barca?

@grim thicket would like to hear your opinion about that

His contract is over in like 3 weeks

and still no agreement to a new contract

[still pagoda]

I was impressed with Miguel and Marvin

An assist each

[grave glen]

@still pagoda Opinion about that?

[still pagoda]

Well if Messi leaves Barca many other fans will lose interest in la liga

So in that way I don't want him to leave

[grave glen]

Ask koeman, we don’t want that backline but he does.

[final cargo]

no money

debt exceeding a billion euros

[still pagoda]

Imagine if we had a prime Hazard starting ahead of Vinicius

We would've been 6-0 up at one point

[still pagoda]

Osasuna are an ok team, and Valladolid would do everything to escape relegation

But the thing is we play Bilbao and Villarreal next 😬

[hoary terrace]

Bilboa will be tough but after this domination of a game snd some important players getting rest we should see out a win and I feel like villa real at home will be slightly easier then bilboa away

[young thistle]

OH LETS FUCKING GOOOO https://twitter.com/ESPNFC/status/1392946371263619079?s=19

ESPN FC (@ESPNFC)

🚨 LA LIGA IS COMING TO ESPN! 🚨 https://t.co/P0lWz69KcY

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22419

Twitter · May 13, 2021, 8:54 PM

[plain elbow]

now i’ll surely have to make the espn+ investment.

just hope phil schoen and ray hudson follow along.

[young thistle]

Yeah ESPN+ getting three* massive leagues in.

[thin ivy]

Thats goood

[thin merlin]

its getting really tense

[alpine socket]

Wb in India?

[thin ivy]

if its available in espn+ then it should be available wherever espn+ can be accessed

[storm quest]

Ray Hudson can stay

[arctic geyser]

Yes

Atleti have to drop points to osasuna and valladolid

[thin merlin]

yeah if they draw one of those games and real wins both then real wins it

but real has tougher program

villarreal and bilbao

[arctic geyser]

Yes

[still pagoda]

Hazard has more Open play G/A than Neymar in 2021 😭

[arctic geyser]

Wtf

Neymar hasnt played much this season

[hard rapids]

vini should be loaned out next season

[grave glen]

Facebook deal ends this season
They will either renew or open up bids

[pure bridge]

https://twitter.com/PSGhub/status/1392783703504457730

PSGhub (@PSGhub)

(🌖) PSG’s offer to Sergio Ramos is ready. 🚨🇪🇸
• 2-year (+1 in option) contract
• Important wages
• Signing fee

❌ Real Madrid can’t match this offer.
@footmercato

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!!!!!!

[grave glen]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/14944274/sergio-aguero-agrees-barcelona-memphis-depay-transfer/?utm_campaign=native_share&utm_source=sharebar_native&utm_medium=sharebar_native

Sergio and depay

[pure bridge]

Real Madrid have won 2 of their last 6 games in all comps W2 D3 L1
Athletic Bilbao have also won 2 of their last 6 games W2 D3 L1
Real Madrid are unbeaten in their last 13 away games in La Liga W8 D5
While Athletic Bilbao are unbeaten in ther last 9 home games in La Liga W3 D6
Athletic Bilbao however have drawn in their last 2 home games in La Liga
Real Madrid are unbeaten in their last 11 against Athletic Bilbao in La Liga W7 D4

Stats for Sunday's game!

[alpine socket]

Psg won't win UCL even with neymar, mbappe, ramos

[pure bridge]

NO!

[alpine socket]

Even add messi, Ronaldo

[pure bridge]

WE JUST NEED A GOOD COACH!

[grave glen]

You have one pochettino has won Audi cup

Tuchel hasnt

Ffs even we need a change

[alpine socket]

Let's trade koeman and urs

[empty copper]

bro
it's the sun

[pure bridge]

no

Whats the sun!

Whats up with the sun!

[alpine socket]

Bro, koeman who won cdr with this barca team

[pure bridge]

YES

LETS SWAP!

[empty copper]

u really dont know?

[pure bridge]

I do its a newspaper

[empty copper]

..

[pure bridge]

What is up with the sun!

[empty copper]

u gotta be kidding me

how do u not know

[thin ivy]

Chinese 3rd division wants to sign ramos for 20M

[grave glen]

Lmaoo

[pure bridge]

!

Form Table La Liga Title Race Top 4:
Atletico Madrid W2 D1 L1
Real Madrid W2 D2
FC Barcelona W1 D2 L1
Sevilla W2 D1 L1

[arctic geyser]

Ok

[arctic geyser]

Wtf

he is joining a money club

[mellow light]

If psg had modric as a player and Zidane as a coach they would probably have won it already

[arctic geyser]

Their mentality when they lose is they get red cards

[grave glen]

This they get salty

[arctic geyser]

yea

[grave glen]

I think Adel Ghazard could get the Ballon d Or

[arctic geyser]

?

who is adel ghazard

[thin ivy]

odriozola should score another one before the season ends

he hasnt been too bad huh]

[inland hound]

other than the goals he has done okay

[arctic geyser]

Defend is not

[thin ivy]

Seems like valverde has become the second winger this season to play as a wingback

[inland hound]

Valverde was playing all over the pitch

Versatality🔥

[grave glen]

POG

Idk why barca drew their last two games

Levante's game was easy...

Suarez effect I guess

[thin ivy]

Valverde is a gem. We're lucky to have him

[inland hound]

Llorente too he sudnt have left

[hard rapids]

valverde is best when he plays cm

[hard rapids]

not exactly a winger

[inland hound]

no RM

He can drop wing back

[hard rapids]

marvin is the second winger to play wingback

[hard rapids]

he played way better today than when he played rm

or rb

[inland hound]

Rm he is more effective

[grave glen]

Who is the first? Lucas Vazquez?

[hard rapids]

yeah and marvin is the second

[inland hound]

Marvin wont start next season

[thin ivy]

Yeah

[thin ivy]

He's played RW like around 5 times this season already

[hard rapids]

rm

it's only rw on paper

[thin ivy]

nah

he really did play rw

[hard rapids]

he helps with defense a lot more than any normal rw

that's rm

[thin ivy]

im just talking about those few matches he played as rw

either way LM/RMs can easily play wingers

look at becks and carrasco

[hard rapids]

yeah

valverde is different though

[thin ivy]

he can easily play RW, RM and RB

whether offensively or defensively

[hard rapids]

yeah ik

[still pagoda]

But his main position is CM

We don't play him there because he can't start ahead of Kroos Modric and Casemiro

So we play him on the right

[inland hound]

4 Man mid with KCM

[hard rapids]

4312

more like 4132

[grave glen]

how big are the chances for villareal to win the UEL

[arctic geyser]

Its a final so its a 50/50

Plus Its unai emery

[thin ivy]

GOODEBENIN TIME

paco alcacer gonna turn into benzema

also albiol gonna play like madrid albiol

[grave glen]

Parejo gonna dominate

United is in a bad form too

not sure if form matters

in a final

[arctic geyser]

it does but not much because its just 1 game and never know

[strong forum]

Modric midfielder of the decade? What do you guys say?

[inland hound]

iniesta

[strong forum]

Is sevilla still in the title race?

[grave glen]

nope

[grave glen]

They can max finish 2nd

[paper spruce]

@grave glen also, should mention his late and poor substitutions and his awful in game management

[grave glen]

Good points

[paper spruce]

Thing is though, I have no idea who we should get

[grave glen]

Tbh I think he will stay

[sharp monolith]

Cadiz signed Armenian international defender Varazdat Haroyan. He played in Ural Yekaterinburg, Tambov and Astana

[grave glen]

I think it’s 60-40 for manutd in favor

[upper drift]

[MD] Toni Kroos is in isolation as he’s come into contact with someone who’s COVID positive. He will miss the match against Athletic Bilbao. - https://twitter.com/mundodeportivo/status/1393187463615684614?s=21

Mundo Deportivo (@mundodeportivo)

💥 ¡Toni Kroos se encuentra aislado tras haber sido contacto directo de un positivo por #COVID19!

❌ Se perderá el partido que el Real Madrid disputará en San Mamés ante el Athletic Club
https://t.co/LDmOqhsdzv

Twitter · May 14, 2021, 12:52 PM

[strong forum]

No worries, modric can carry madrids midfield

[light void]

yo I am a fan of Osasuna, Bilbao, Villareal and Valladolid temporarily

[upper drift]

Support only Bilbao

[empty copper]

same 🤝

[upper drift]

[thin ivy]

OH MY GOD WHYYYY

[upper drift]

Oh my good

[thin ivy]

Barcelona obviously paid off corona and injuries so we cant play

[upper drift]

[thin ivy]

fucking fuck

[opal sigil]

But barca aren't leading the league

[thin ivy]

Still

[still pagoda]

Kroos' season could be over

anyways, who do you think is the best finisher in la liga

Odriozola for me

[glossy sedge]

Good Ebening

[thin ivy]

Vinicious Jr or Dembele is the only correct answer

[still pagoda]

yes

Marvin's leg after the game

not even a yellow for this horrendous tackle

what a joke

[glossy sedge]

Ooo

[thin merlin]

Why do i not know that marvin

[strong forum]

[boreal shell]

u start marvin

wtf

[arctic geyser]

Injuries

We had too many injuries

[grim thicket]

hmm well, messi leaving barca would essentially fast track barca's rebuild....as long as he is in the team their offence would still be focused on messi and the team is going to be built around him, which isnt necessarily a good thing...becoz messi would have to leave at some point, he aint gonna continue playing football til 50....and its better if that happened earlier so that barca can actually build a team rather than components for messi to play off of. That said, would it be good for the league as a whole? no ofc not, messi brings a lot of fans and a lot of money.

[grave glen]

After Ronaldinho Barcelona quickly found the next big thing who was Messi. They'll have to go it again.

[grave glen]

True , La liga will be watched way less

[grim thicket]

for a certain amount of time yes

but thats just the aftermath of this

there is no way a team like barca dont recover from this

[strong forum]

[grim thicket]

you shouldnt be eating all that popcorn, might hurt your stomach

[grave glen]

Moreno, Aspas, Benzema, Llorente

[grim thicket]

i wonder what the best shot conversion rate is in la liga this season

and i think suarez would be on that list too

[grave glen]

not after that sociedad match lol

he missed everything

[strong forum]

[grave glen]

Llorente not top tbh

I'm an atleti fan but

He's good at longshots and doesn't miss ez chances

Unlike other strikerd

[grave glen]

Ngl not this time

You guys saying it's fati

He's just pacy and good at dribbling

Impossible to rely on

[late kernel]

I heard that Zidane won't be Real's coach next szn 😳

[arctic geyser]

???

What

Source

[late kernel]

It's in Spanish but I heard he's leaving

https://www.telemadrid.es/deportes/Zidane-dejara-Real-Madrid-temporada-0-2340965911--20210514021151.amp.html

[plain elbow]

i don’t think there’ll be any clarity on his future until the end of szn.

[grave glen]

I think the only club he would leave to is Juventus

[arctic geyser]

He played there

Maybe in Ligue 1????

[late kernel]

Nah

I don't see him coming

He'll maybe replace Deschamps tho 👀

[grave glen]

Zidane for france would be nice

Benzema would play in the national team again then

[arctic geyser]

Yes benzema should be playing in France

[drifting cloak]

💯 agreed

Benzema is pretty underrated

[thin lance]

One of the best strikers itw

[pure flax]

Don’t think zidane is leaving

[devout geyser]

https://twitter.com/theMadridZone/status/1393220304965619714

Madrid Zone (@theMadridZone)

🚨| Some La Liga games will be played in USA in the future, confirmed by La Liga’s president, Javier Tebas. #rmalive

Likes

637

Twitter · May 14, 2021, 3:03 PM

FUCK OFF TEBAS

[late kernel]

Eh WHAT?

WHY?

[still pagoda]

Wtf

[grim thicket]

thats fucking good news....for me

tickets would be suuuuuper expensive tho

[arctic geyser]

Why

[late kernel]

[devout geyser]

im not flying to Delaware just to watch Athletic Bilbao vs Huesca

[arctic geyser]

what a joke

[grim thicket]

lmao

[late kernel]

He lives in the US

[devout geyser]

America should stick to handegg

[arctic geyser]

true

[grim thicket]

any news on which specific games and where they are to be played?

[devout geyser]

this has to get scrapped

I swear

[grim thicket]

coz if they are all played in LA or something then its bullshit

[grave glen]

Not flying to Alabama to watch Barca vs Huesca

[arctic geyser]

football isnt that popular in america compared to handball they rather play habball

[devout geyser]

La Liga is from Spain

[devout geyser]

handegg*

[arctic geyser]

Not flying to Washington to watch Real madrid vs Elche

[grim thicket]

the man utd vs real madrid game that took place (was a friendly) still holds the record for highest attendance in a single game

[devout geyser]

El Clasico in Alaska 🥶

[late kernel]

LMAO

[grave glen]

Nah they said el Classico will still be played in Spain

[arctic geyser]

And all of them just want to be entertained

[grave glen]

I think

[grim thicket]

:(

[grim thicket]

not all of them lmao, and after all isnt it all just about entertainment?

[arctic geyser]

most are not fans of man u and real madrid

[grim thicket]

what do you watch sports for?

[devout geyser]

guys we are flying to Rhode Island to watch Eibar U23s vs Valencia B

[arctic geyser]

Or proper fans

[arctic geyser]

Wtff

[grim thicket]

and wdym by "proper fans"

[grave glen]

Zizo gone to juve?

He already left

:D

[grim thicket]

and man utd probably has the highest number of fans in the states among all big clubs

[grave glen]

They announced that arrady

[grave glen]

Nah he’s coming to Eibar

[grim thicket]

real madrid come second, barca third i think

[grim thicket]

who announced what and where?

[grave glen]

Like today

He will leave at the end of the szn

[still pagoda]

No Zidane means:

• No Mbappé (forget about it)
• No pressure on the board to extend Varane/Ramos contracts
• No manager pull for signings like Camavinga, Aouar...etc
• Club heading into dark era
• Yet another rebuild 2 years after rebuild
• No squad harmony

[grim thicket]

who, What, where

[grave glen]

Apparently we have to pay 8M if we come 3rd lmao, we have to pay everything

[grim thicket]

still need to know the where

i dont see any communicado official

so....

who announced it?

[alpine socket]

I hope zidane leaves.

[grave glen]

I was looking at atletico signing lautauro news then I saw below find more about zidane departure

Don't remember the link

[devout geyser]

Zidane wont go

[grave glen]

It's official tho

[grim thicket]

i dont see any official statement on real madrid's twitter...yet

how did you know it was official

[calm magnet]

its not official

yet

[alpine socket]

He has been successful tho, even with this team lmao

[devout geyser]

if I was Zidane, I would either stay at Madrid or go to French NT

[calm magnet]

what is your source @grave glen

[grave glen]

It's on news it says some people are saying it's official

I think it's rumours tho

[devout geyser]

fun fact: Zidane is undefeated at Camp Nou

[grim thicket]

i dont even see any news of that sort on the accounts linked to the official real madrid twitter

like the sb nation site

[grave glen]

Nah but Lautaro and Lukaku might leave cause financial issues

[calm magnet]

didn't we lose like 5-1 one time

[grim thicket]

so...its def bullshit rumours

[calm magnet]

[alpine socket]

MadridZone trustful?

[grim thicket]

not very trustful...but kinda

[devout geyser]

that wasnt under Zidane

[grave glen]

Infact it is official that if Zidane ends the season trophyless he'll get the sack

[calm magnet]

ah

[strong forum]

[calm magnet]

really

[grave glen]

This is official tho

[calm magnet]

over 5 years?

dman

[still pagoda]

No

[grim thicket]

now where did you see that?

[devout geyser]

that was under Lopetegui

[still pagoda]

Who said this?

[grim thicket]

and how did you know it is official lmao

coz i see nothing

[devout geyser]

what

Zidane sacked?

lmao

[calm magnet]

thats not offical either

[grave glen]

Valverde has never lost to Zidane in the LEAGUE

[grave glen]

That's in the beggining of the season

Sheesh

[calm magnet]

true? probably. official? no

[alpine socket]

It's rumours

[grim thicket]

in fact perez said in a statement that zidane is going nowhere

right in the middle of the season

[devout geyser]

even if Madrid go trophyless, Zidane wont be sacked

[grave glen]

Who would real hire if they sack zizou

[devout geyser]

no chance

[still pagoda]

https://twitter.com/theMadridZone/status/1393120663871832064?s=19

Madrid Zone (@theMadridZone)

🚨| Pérez wants Zidane to stay at Real Madrid because he knows it'll help to convince Mbappé. It is NOT sure Mbappé would join Real Madrid if Zidane leaves. 🇫🇷 @le_Parisien_PSG via @hadrien_grenier #rmalive

Likes

815

Twitter · May 14, 2021, 8:27 AM

[grave glen]

Zidane should stay tho

Ngl Madrid and atleti are so bad

[grim thicket]

there was a chance he could be sacked during that bad phase when we were losing all those games

[grave glen]

They rely on there managers

[grim thicket]

but we came back form that

[alpine socket]

https://mobile.twitter.com/telemadrid/status/1393182475237707777

Telemadrid (@telemadrid)

#ÚLTIMAHORA

Zidane dejará el @RealMadrid cuando acabe la temporada

https://t.co/a8WOwJ24IB

Retweets

277

Likes

608

Twitter · May 14, 2021, 12:32 PM

[grave glen]

If they sack them

[grave glen]

Don't get us started

Were cracked

[grim thicket]

who should they rely on?

according to you?

[grave glen]

Just saying

[still pagoda]

That isn't a reliable source

[arctic geyser]

zidane has to stay

[grave glen]

That's my view

[grim thicket]

yeah im asking too, who should they rely on

im not arguing or anything

[grave glen]

Meh

We ain't a one man team like barca

[grim thicket]

you still didnt answer my question

[late kernel]

I hope Zidane doesn't leave tbh

[grave glen]

You clearly were caught off guard 🤡

[grim thicket]

seems like you dont have an answer....

[late kernel]

He's good where he's at

[still pagoda]

Zidane shouldn't leave

[grave glen]

@grim thicket atleti and real plat on a team effort but there managers are like the only kind of glue that stickes them together

Stickes*

[still pagoda]

Idk why he would want to leave after he is the one who really wants Mbappe and Camavinga at the club

[grave glen]

Camaving going to bayern

Does this guy know why Directors hire top managers?

[grave glen]

Why did you higher koeman?

[fallen valley]

Zizou staying

[grim thicket]

we have had so many managerial changes, so the thing about real is, we play well under any kinds of managers.....we have seen that with 4-5 managers within this decade itself....as for simeone, he is ofc a wonderful manager.....but that wasnt my point. You said that "they rely on their managers" as if its a bad thing....so if they shouldnt rely on their managers, who should they rely on?

[grave glen]

Cause he’s the best manager itw atm

Jk

[grim thicket]

again, gonna need a source lad, coz if its false rumours, pls dont spread them here

[grave glen]

Itw meaning؟

[grave glen]

The guy knows how to play the Barca Way
Finalist in Nations League
Proved himself with NT

In the world

[fallen valley]

Simeone is a bottler

he shouldve won the title in February

[grim thicket]

simeone's squad doesnt have depth

[fallen valley]

and ours does?

[grim thicket]

its not his fault that his team cant back him up

[grave glen]

Wow 3-5-2 fits the Player totally will be handled when Messi leaves too

[grim thicket]

compared to atleti, yes

[grave glen]

@fallen valley we still will win the title tho.....

[grim thicket]

our bench even with our academy players are quality

[fallen valley]

we beat both Barca and Atleti this season

[grave glen]

@grim thicket our bench bad

[fallen valley]

we deserve the title

[grim thicket]

we dont deserve shit

[grave glen]

WHEN*
Do you know when he's about to leave
Plus 3-5-2 helps fit in our players

[grim thicket]

nobody is entitled to anything

we gotta win it

and we bottled it against sevilla

[fallen valley]

Barca 3-5-2 is weird.

3atb sucks tbf

[grave glen]

It works better than most traditional formations for us

[halcyon latch]

not really

[fallen valley]

we are sticking with 4-3-3

ig

[grave glen]

Are you dumb?

[fallen valley]

3atb killed us

vs Chelsea

[grave glen]

We should be using 3-4-3 not 3-5-2

[grim thicket]

3atb sucks in what sense?

[fallen valley]

well for RMA

it does

[grave glen]

De jong CB not using passing ability
Roberto RM despite him not amazing at the counter
Grizi straight striker he's a playmaker
Basquets a CDM version of mata like an invisible player

[grim thicket]

no?

[grave glen]

3atb gives so much more flexibility

[grim thicket]

against chelsea yes

[grave glen]

Any non barca fan would agree

[fallen valley]

Chelsea murdered us

[grim thicket]

but we have played well with 3atb against other teams

in fact, didnt we play 3atb against barca?

[still pagoda]

We did?

[fallen valley]

yes

kind of

[grave glen]

U played some 4-4-2 diamond

[still pagoda]

I thought it was Mendy Militao Nacho Vazquez

[grave glen]

Or something idk

[halcyon latch]

wasnt it like

valverde rwb

[still pagoda]

442 kind of

[grim thicket]

you are looking at one game, where our players were tired to death, and we had soooo many injuries....and saying that the certain tactic sucks

how does that make sense?

[grave glen]

@grave glen atleti play 3-5-2 you saw how fast and full of stamina the mid is they drop and counter like lightning

[fallen valley]

I want us to play 4-2-3-1

like Bayern

[grave glen]

HAVE YOU SEEN THE FUCCING SQUAD de Jong played at CB when we had nobody else available
Roberto was there to provide defensive cover cause araujo went
We don't have a real striker so we have to adapt
Busi gives cover to defence

[fallen valley]

im fine with 4-3-3 though

[grim thicket]

yeah with odegaard next season, casemiro with kroos as double pivot, im looking forward to that

[grave glen]

@grave glen You are a clown

[grim thicket]

and in the future a double pivot of blanco, fede and odegaard at CAM

[grave glen]

4-4-1-1 is adaptable for barca

[fallen valley]

well this season will be a failure

so

I hope it ends soon

so I can forget this shit

[grim thicket]

i dont think its a failure at all

[grave glen]

Uhuh tell me who'd play where you tactical genius

[fallen valley]

we are going trophyless

[grave glen]

our season is over I just wanna win the rest of our games now

[grim thicket]

we have achieved so much with the injuries that we have had

[fallen valley]

for Real Madrid, thats basically relegation

[halcyon latch]

??

[arctic geyser]

?

[grim thicket]

sure we are not gonna be winning trophies, but considering how our squad was depleted with injuries this is great

[arctic geyser]

Season isnt over

[fallen valley]

idk anymore

[still pagoda]

Idk why some people say we need a new RB

[grim thicket]

and this is why people dont like madrid fans

[grim thicket]

we just need to extend LV man

[fallen valley]

Carvajal is injury prone

Vazquez might leave

[arctic geyser]

Real had so many injuries

[fallen valley]

and Odriozola is shite

[grim thicket]

odriozola isnt shit

he is bad defensively

[fallen valley]

you know who I want at Madrid?

Cancelo

[still pagoda]

Hope it's a one off thing with Carvajal

[grim thicket]

but he provides a lot in offence

what? cancelo??!!

why

bruh

[still pagoda]

Cancelo?

[fallen valley]

he gives good service in the back

he can go forward

[grim thicket]

carvajal has been quite injury prone throughout his career ngl

[fallen valley]

yall cant tell me Cancelo is trash

[still pagoda]

Yeah but he's still very good, hopefully these issues are resolved next season

[grave glen]

Nobody is but best players don't fit everywhere

[grave glen]

Jordi alba and dest at full backs
Mingueza and araujo at the back
De jong and pjanic at the middle
Pedri at leftmid and dembele at rightmid
And grizi under leo

[grim thicket]

but why are we gonna spend on cancelo while we have some rlly good RBs and backups....

[fallen valley]

well

we need wingers

[still pagoda]

Yes

[fallen valley]

so nvm

[still pagoda]

We do

[grim thicket]

oh yeah im not arguing, carvajal is def one of the best RBs atm, but he is injury prone, which i hope doesnt affect him in the future

[grave glen]

Ngl real shouldn't get mbappe

[fallen valley]

apparently we want Aurier for RB? probably some trash source

[grave glen]

If I'm honest

[fallen valley]

Aurier is shite

[grim thicket]

yes

aurier is linked with us

if LV leaves

[fallen valley]

extend LV

asap

[still pagoda]

Aurier

[grim thicket]

he wants twice the money he is getting now

7m per year

[grave glen]

Leo as a striker?🤡
Play pjanic over Pedri or Busi in mid 🤡
Dembele and dest sprinting on right flank
🤡

I remember Mustafi being linked with Barca for a day

[grim thicket]

dont think thats gonna be worth it

[fallen valley]

@grim thicket you want Aurier instead?

[grim thicket]

thats the issue with extending LV's contract

[fallen valley]

he is dog shit

[grim thicket]

no, but 7m per year for a backup isnt that good either

[still pagoda]

Vazquez is a loyal servant and good versatile team player, I hope we find a way to extend his contract

[grave glen]

@grave glen you don't know what or how we play how bout you do your own shiz and stahp trying to impose as a genius

[grave glen]

Pedri play leftmid and busquets is a literal waste he just passes pay attention to him dropping back in games

[fallen valley]

I rather extend LV than sign Aurier

[grim thicket]

for 7m no....for something lesser, yes def

[fallen valley]

man

[grave glen]

The formation we should play is 3-4-3

[grim thicket]

we alrdy have so many bloated contracts

[fallen valley]

we need to sell all deadwood

[still pagoda]

Alaba coming in too don't forget

[fallen valley]

this summer

[still pagoda]

Absurd wages

[grave glen]

@grave glen did u Cal busi shit?
Have you ever seen the way he handles the game yup he's old and slow but he's still able to control the pace

[grim thicket]

that we need to get rid of

[fallen valley]

and make good signings

idk about Alaba deal

but oh well

[grim thicket]

yeah i was coming to that lol

[grave glen]

That's the problem

You need a guy with pace

[grim thicket]

i had bad feelings when we signed hazard, and look how that turned out.....and i am having bad feelings about the alaba deal too

[fallen valley]

ill say 1 thing

[grim thicket]

i hope im wrong tho

[grave glen]

Dembele alba dest rn:

[fallen valley]

we should not touch our midfield

our midfield is stacked

its done

[grim thicket]

not for long lmao

[grave glen]

You got an alternative

[grim thicket]

modric is 35

kroos is 31

[fallen valley]

true

[still pagoda]

We should sell Isco, and get back Ødegaard

[grim thicket]

but ofc we have great youngsters in midfield

[fallen valley]

but midfield shouldnt be prioritized rn @grim thicket

[grim thicket]

odegaard, fede, blanco

[fallen valley]

attack should

[grim thicket]

yeah

[fallen valley]

wait I just realized

[grave glen]

@grave glen its fine if u don't agree with me we all have different opinions

[fallen valley]

we still employ Ceballos

[still pagoda]

And we have some players who have no business in our team

Like Mariano

[grave glen]

@grave glen You dimwit why does my DM need pace?
He's there for disturbing and covering defense he ain't pacing down the wing

[still pagoda]

Who we should sell

[grave glen]

I don’t understand koeman he Takes off Araujo and then puts Roberto in instead of Mingueza and Dest wtf lmao

@grave glen Your "opinion" is not backed

[grave glen]

A dm needs to counter that's obvious if he can't run for long balls wht is he a dm then?

[fallen valley]

you know whats funny

[grave glen]

🤡

[fallen valley]

Real and Barca need opposite position players

[grave glen]

Why would he run for long balls

[fallen valley]

our strength is defence, weakness is attack

[grave glen]

Wtf

[still pagoda]

Kroos is 31 but I believe he still has atleast 4 years more left in him

[fallen valley]

their strength is attack, weakness is defence

its opposite

[grave glen]

@grave glen if he doesn't attack and he's a dm what's the point of using him?

[fallen valley]

Atletico's weakness is mentality

[grave glen]

Wdym?

[grave glen]

Bruv can you read what you write

[thin merlin]

facts

[grave glen]

HES A FUCCING DEFENSIVE MID
DEFENSIVE

[grave glen]

Dude a dumb dm has to counter
Casemiro
Llorente
Koke
Saul
Modric
Kroos
These guy play as DMs a damn lot

[still pagoda]

Am I the only one who would be gutted if Varane leaves? I feel like it would just be dumb to let an experienced world class defender to just leave

[fallen valley]

Llorente

Llorente has been out wide

this whole season

[grave glen]

Modric
Kroos
Llorente
Koke????

[fallen valley]

im with you

also Koke?

Koke is a CM

[grave glen]

You don't even watch football

[fallen valley]

Koke is legit a CM'

and Saul benched

[grave glen]

@fallen valley he played litteraly in every position not joking except centerback and gk

[fallen valley]

also how is Modric and Kroos

in that

[grave glen]

@fallen valley he played recently

Saul

[fallen valley]

Casemiro is only CDM

from that list

[grave glen]

Rub you don't even watch your own gamee🤡

rememebr when Trincao score 3 goals in 2 matches then koeman made him never play

@fallen valley does casemiro has to counter?

[fallen valley]

@grave glen this man said Modric CDM

[grave glen]

@fallen valley he played cdm last season lol for 6 games

[grave glen]

Yup what a clown

[fallen valley]

6 games

[grave glen]

6games

This knobhead

@fallen valley can I ask smth then?

[fallen valley]

ok

go ahead

[grave glen]

Does a dm need pace to counter?

[fallen valley]

no

[grave glen]

Like the ability to sprint

[fallen valley]

pace isnt required

[grave glen]

Why would a DM counter

[fallen valley]

for a CDM

LOL

[grave glen]

Fuccing fullbacks

You Circus

[fallen valley]

who uses CDM for counter

[grave glen]

@grave glen dude it's fine if u don't agree with me

[fallen valley]

only team ik that does that is fucking Brighton

[grave glen]

Just chill

@grave glen Bruh you don't make sense

[grave glen]

Someone counters with the whole mid

[fallen valley]

if a team does that, they will get scored on 50 goals