I don't thunk individual trophies have much merit for comparing. Midfielders as they are more team players than forwards
#la-liga
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Also, what would you consider iniesta's best years to be?
Imo it's 2008-2012 right?
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thonk
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Modric was really great in the world cup. No point comparing trophies, I'd more with individual brilliance on the field
grim thicket
Now let's compare playstyles then
Modric plays like an 8 just like Iniesta did, except he puts a lot more effort into defence
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So, you are trying to prove than Modric is better than Iniesta?
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I'm not saying one is better than the other
I'm just showing how underrated Modric is
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Not rly
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Modric is underrated?
grim thicket
Compared to Iniesta? Yes
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No way he is underatted
grim thicket
I'm saying they are equally successful in terms of both individual and team performances, and even then Iniesta is considered to be way better than Modric by many
Even when Modric's longevity has been of a legendary level
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Iniesta could have played for a year or two
grim thicket
At the level Modric is playing rn? I don't think so
You see, you are underrating the stuff Modric is doing at 35
It's a never before seen thing
He's just as good at 35 as he was at 30
Iniesta has alrdy dropped off a lot during his final games for barca
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That can't be the sole criteria. Everyone has different physique.
grim thicket
You brought up the fact that Iniesta could've played a year or two more...I didnt
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I am saying they are both equal interns of their performances and achievements, I just don't get why Iniesta is rated way way higher than modric
grim thicket
Maybe he has been declining, but still he could have played
If he could've, he wouldn't be playing in the J League, he would still be in europe
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Maybe because Iniesta had been in a better team who went on to win everything
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Better team? Dude, we threepeated in the UCL
No team has ever done that
Not even the great milan teams
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I'm talking about Iniesta's prime.....
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And I'm talking about Modric's prime
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U won a sixtuple?
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Both have achieved similar sucess
No but we three peated
There are lots of sixtuple teams, there are no UCL three peat teams besides us
Literally none
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Team
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Well not lots, but there are
Bayern for example
Sure we didn't win the Copa del rey, along with the other trophies in one year, and not winning a treble is probably our biggest negative, but still nothing beats three years in a row
You know how difficult it is to maintain consistency for three years in a row
It's almost impossible
That's why it's never been done
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If you see Iniesta played for over 16 years for barcelona. He has one of the most influential and respected player for the club. A world cup winner, every trophy on the planet. Well, thats a lot tho.
grim thicket
And so has Modric, except the world cup
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and most important, it depends on the individual
grim thicket
And he wasn't the best for 16 years straight, his peak was 4-5 years at max
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Almost everyone has same peak range
grim thicket
That's what I'm saying, why Modric is a different breed
His peak has been way longer
grim thicket
2013-now imo is Modric peak
Maybe this is his last good year, but still
That's phenomenal
Iniesta's peak was possibly 2008-2012 maybe a year here and there
Sure he achieved a lot during that time, but so has Modric during his peak
So why rate one way way above the other
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Btw Iniesta is 36 😄
grim thicket
Yeah and he was playing for vissel kobe at 35 too
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Don't forget he was motm in ucl final 2015. He great till 2015 I assume
grim thicket
Not rlly no
Sure he was motm, but that was more of a one match performance rather than over the year performance
You can't say Iniesta was still one of the best midfielders at 2015
grim thicket
I can't, I'm exactly trying to prove that!!
grim thicket
What were his advanced stats in 2014?
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Iniesta juust scores more ig
Scoring goals never was Modric's thing, look at his advanced stats, key passes, heat map, dribbles and all
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I got some stats. 3 goals 13 assists
grim thicket
That's not advanced stats, goals and assists don't prove much
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Thats what Modric lacks then 😄
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He has offensive
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wouldn't say one of them is better
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U see rma and barca can never have that same thing 😁
grim thicket
wouldn't say one of them is better
I wouldn't say either, but I have heard a lot that iniesta is leaps and bounds ahead of modric
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Messi Xavi and Iniesta was hell of a trio
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one lacks defensive stats one lacks offensive stats?
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Iniesta was better connected with his teammates for sure
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i rate both of them equally
grim thicket
I do too
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modric doesn't need to score goals for madrid to be better :)
grim thicket
Exactly my point
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I don't think that defensive stats also will be valid
grim thicket
Why not
grim thicket
Yes, Modric is a more well rounded midfielder, while Iniesta was more offensive minded
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Ok settled
grim thicket
But in terms of talent and achievements, no one is above the other
cunning remnant
ok ronaldo > messi
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Ok
grim thicket
Since I have never seen ronaldo walk around the pitch like a homeless person, sure
cunning remnant
alpine socket
What does that mean? My engrish is weak
cunning remnant
i think he is referring to when messi was walking
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Oh
cunning remnant
minute 80 or something
grim thicket
It was a joke on how messi just walks around when he doesn't have the ball on him
cunning remnant
ye
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He likes something on his feet
Training messi is the best player of all time no arguments
grim thicket
Talent wise I'd rate messi higher, but in terms of the work ethic and hard work, and the leadership mentality ronaldo is clear above messi
So again, equals
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Messi would have never been here without hardwork
That's bullshit of u go with talent
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ronaldo is clear 😎
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Messi is an introvet
grim thicket
Have you ever seen ronaldo give up? Just walk around and do nothing
grim thicket
Messi is an introvet
That's why I said ronaldo is clear of messi in terms of winning mentality
And lesdership
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Ask koeman
grim thicket
Lol
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Everyone ask us 😕
grim thicket
Pjanic and fdj in a double pivot would work well for 4231 imo
Pjanic could be more conservative and stay back, while frenkie plays like a traditional 8
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And the fact that frenkie and pjanic would be less defensive than Busquets is bullshit....Busquets ain't a good defender anymore
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I'm quite happy to not draw bayern. Expecting we win today
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At least not lost to shakhtar twice
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Atleast we finished top of our group 
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I mean how worse could it get.....barca needed to lose by 3 fking goals to drop to 2 and they did exactly that
They made things diffocult for themselves
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We concedes one plain goal, that's a win-win
thin ivy
Scoring goals never was Modric's thing, look at his advanced stats, key passes, ...
Thats true. I always see him goating whenever i watch games. He has an amazing anti pressure skill too.
grim thicket
And two penalties....huge L there
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U see that back line
Idk what to talk abt it
They are actually world class players tho
grim thicket
Thats true. I always see him goating whenever i watch games. He has an amazing a...
Oh yes, and remember against bayern when we had to play LV at RB for the first time? Modric was so brilliant there to cover the right flank
Dest Pique Lenglet Alba that's the best backline right?
Dest is possibly world class...
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I'm still expecting messi to score even if he is worse this season
Dest is good, that's a good signing
grim thicket
I'm thinking the Sociedad coach will just put Mikel merino to follow messi all over the pitch, make tactical fouls, never let him get into rhythm
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Man mark, that works sometimes. Or don't give him space around the box
He still manages to cross here and there
grim thicket
Oh I'm sure they won't, Sociedad got some rlly good defenders
grim thicket
He still manages to cross here and there
The thing is, even when he crosses, there is no one at the box to receive it
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We have to depend on messi for goals until fati returns
Yeah, no one
Alba misses everytime
Even Coutinho
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It's gonna be Zubeldia and Normand starting at the back probably
With maybe Munoz at LB
To be more defensive
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Looks like they got better than us
grim thicket
Not rlly sure, but with David Silva and Isak playing, they'll sure be counter attacking threats
I would've preferred if they had Oyarzabal but nvm
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Rma should start their hunt for youngsters or u will be in similar conditions
Imagine both the clubs in the mud
grim thicket
We alrdy got a lot of youngsters....let's be honest finding the next Ramos is impossible
We need to develop our youngsters well enough
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Got to groom them
grim thicket
Vini is doing well in terms of defensive work rate and he seems to have improved his decision making in the final third
It's to see how his trajectory goes from here
Rodrygo has also improved a lot
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Oof we can't even talk about our players progress
grim thicket
I think it would be wise to recall Kubo from Villareal and send him somewhere he will get game time
Coz rn he is just rotting on the Villareal bench, and they'll never play him over chukwueze as chukwueze is their own player
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And these messi rumours, scary
grim thicket
Oh I'm pretty sure messi is out this summer, if not the winter
grim thicket
If you sell him in Jan, you get some money, if you let him go for free in summer, there is no money off of it
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Not possible I think
He won't until we have a president and all the candidates wants him to stay
grim thicket
Hmm but it would be wiser to either have him sign a small extension or sell him in the Jan window, becoz come free agency nobody knows what'll happen
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No idea what these fellows will do
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Laporta spent 40000 to have his banner near Bernabeu
grim thicket
Lol
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Who's going to vote him from Madrid
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I heard that some constructions will go on till 2022, but it will open for cettain parts for fans when the lockdown ends in Spain
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New stadium costs a lot
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It's in installments over 12 years I think, so not much
And that way the earnings from the stadium pay for itself
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They are asking neymar to return 30m which they had not recieved during his transfer
😎 each penny matters
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For that u need to build it first
Candidates wants Messi to stay because he generates around 300m
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And the board was intelligent to pull it forward so that the majority of the construction coincided with the lockdown
So there weren't gonna be fans anyway
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They need messi to get that sales
grim thicket
Yes for sure they do
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If you leave him, there's no face of the club
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Messi jersey and merchandise sales are a huge part of Barca's income
And I don't think Barca are as financially stable as madrid was when ronaldo left
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Also not to forget we received an astronomical fee for ronaldo, altho we did spend it all on hazard which is an L
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At least he scores when he comes
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We also didn't spend 150m for a player to score twice and assist once against us in a UCL quarter final
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Yea........
grim thicket
The Coutinho deal is getting Ls years after it happened
Way worse than the griezmann deal imo
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I can feel it
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Barca can't catch a break with Coutinho
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We are playing him because he scored against us nothing else
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They keep him on the team- he becomes shit
They send him out on loan- he humiliates his parent club
That's La over Ls
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😭
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Like what are you supposed to do with a player like that lol
grim thicket
So that's 150+120m on the barca bench
Oh yes I forgot dembele
How much was he?
Another 120m right?
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He like swaped with Neymar
grim thicket
Cut out neymars 220m
That's still a loss of 180m there
Not to forget the other flops
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That's huge
grim thicket
Oh yes vidal, suarez, deulofeu, gomes, how many more?
grim thicket
Lol what was that deal even
Out of nowhere comes the news that the arthur-pjanic swap is on
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People thought Arthur next Iniesta or Xavi I think lol
alpine socket
Pjanic might not be bad
grim thicket
Imo the vidal, rakitic and suarez outgoings aren't bad, since it cuts out their enormous wages
thin ivy
Oh yes, and remember against bayern when we had to play LV at RB for the first t...
Yeah for a CM he sure drops down deep too. I can recall against shakhtar during defense against counter attacks, he doubled up as a mid cb until the mids could drop down. Modric is just amazing.
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We have out James for free:man_shrugging:
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Shit man
grim thicket
And he's wrecking havoc in the PL
He had enormous wages and wasn't fitting in
Same problem with bale
It's better to cut down the wages than waiting for them to leave
grim thicket
Like imagine if suarez and vidal were there at barca for one more season, or two
You would've had to pay their wages, and they would've left for free anyway after that
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Saurez is far better that invisible griezmann
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So it's better to facilitate their moves esrlier
grim thicket
Saurez is far better that invisible griezmann
Didn't u see the madrid derby? Suarez did a better invisible act than Luka fking jovic
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I just feel they'll bottle
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I'm pretty sure they will, dunno if we will win tho
We have looked great, and we have looked rlly bad at times
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Never know, it's football
Real Sociedad haven't won at the Camp Nou since the 1990/91 season, and their balance since then is disastrous: 27 defeats and one draw
Record in danger
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I have said this before and I have a pin in here somehwere, if real madrid win LaLiga this season, I'll keep my irl face as my pfp for a month, and sing hala madrid y nada mas in vc the day we are crowned champions
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Barcelona won each of their last 22 Liga games against Real Sociedad at the Camp Nou.
The last time La Real got a point at the Camp Nou, Koeman was still a Barça player (1995).
Koeman coach now
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I think we win
grim thicket
The general consensus says that Barca will win, and there would be more than 2 goals
But idk
grim thicket
1-0 right?
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Ye
grim thicket
That was a correct prediction by me
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Thanks to messiah
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I predicted yesterday's Bilbao game to be a difference of 2 goals, so I was right there, altho I was expecting a clean sheet
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Idk I feel like it's gonna be a drab game...
alpine socket
Don't be selfish
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We have the same
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That's supposed to be a joke
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Lol
The general betting consensus is towards a barca win tho, if that makes you feel good
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😇
grim thicket
There are like 5-1 odds of Sociedad winning, so that's prolly not happening
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Around 3-1 odds of a draw, which is a good opportunity to earn some in case a draw does happen
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Never thought messi would take a month to score that two goals
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Lmao
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Maybe it's 2020. That helps me to not sob again
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🧐 watcha doing
grim thicket
Quarantine
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Why
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I just came from the US
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Where r u now
grim thicket
Delhi
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Swagat hai aapka!!
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Air must be killing u
grim thicket
Not rlly, the boredom is
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Ik. It's evening almost, need to have tea. Cya.
torn ermine
I have said this before and I have a pin in here somehwere, if real madrid win L...
ok deal
grim thicket
Donezo, root for madrid now
thin lance
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3rd looks like a thing that Barca may end up doing but close lol
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Laporta will pull Marc Overmars
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Andres Iniesta out for 4 months due to injury.
feral palm
If Laporta gets Marc Overmars
I might be inclined to support him as much as I do Victor Font
alpine socket
Yeah
It's highly probable. There's only one presidential election of a big club and Marc has left position just a month before
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Unfortunately, he is already out of the race 🍕
round star
Twitter
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😈 it's coming home
glass lodge
grave belfry
0
icy crypt
Why can’t Barcelona draw us?
Is it because we won the league?
And hopefully they don’t bottle it again so there can be a Clasico final.
spice magnet
Why can’t Barcelona draw us?
they just want a clasico final
spice magnet
was postponed
torn ermine
ohh
torn ermine
@feral palm did i say something wrong? sorry 😐 😔
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What's wrong
feral palm
Oh no lmao
I was tired of that channel with idiots and their shitty takes
So I said I was coming here and that you and ifsan should come with me
feral palm
Bc I like u guys and u actually talk sense lmfao
torn ermine
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👀
teal prairie
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VISCA BARCA!
feral palm
Up to 5th
Feels good
Good news
We've played everyone here
So, cautiously speaking, we don't have an outright challenge for a while
All 7 remaining opponents are below us in the table
Valencia
Valladolid
Eibar
Huesca
Bilbao
Granada
Elche
hybrid python
Valencia
Valladolid
Eibar
Huesca
Bilbao
Granada
Elche
Time to statpad man
feral palm
Yeah we rlly need it
feral palm
I hate thinking this way
But
We could be top of the table if Neto didn't fuck up vs Alaves
Lenglet didnt fuck up vs Cadiz
Ter Stegen stayed in his net vs Atletico
grave glen
Oi, what do yall think about Jonathan Calleri, the former striker for Espanyol and Alavés who is playing in Ossasuna rn?
spice magnet
grim thicket
calleri good enough to replace estupinan?
grim thicket
if so, then great
stiff fjord
idk
grave glen
Well, he did score goals to Barca and Madrid iirc, so maybe he could replace him
grim thicket
hmm would be nice for osasuna to find a replacement so quickly
lets see if he works out
alpine socket
We should win our remaining games. I think demebele will be back soon
slender olive
oh shit
4 away games in a row
Well
tbh we're really bad away, ill be happy if we can win at least two of those games
and all the home games
theyre doable
Granada and Betis will be tricky
Athletic we've always struggled at
however, its a winnable run of games
if we win all of them, surely we're close to or top of the league
Im especially worried about Granada away, that will be extremely tricky
grim thicket
bilbao should be a worry, but they arent in good form
but san mames is always a tricky journey
slender olive
but san mames is always a tricky journey
Yes, we lost there twice last season, each with last minute winners
slender olive
Balaidos
slender olive
Betis you won there
this season, we have both conquered those stadiums
we won 3-0 at balaidos
grim thicket
played very badly tho
alpine socket
We were good yesterday. If we manage to put the same performance like we did in first half, these fixtures might not be too hard.
grim thicket
vicente calderon used to be difficult 😔
slender olive
We were good yesterday. If we manage to put the same performance like we did in ...
yeah
Vincente calderon?
Lol
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Cent, ur prediction gone wrong. 😎
slender olive
We've done great there in the past seasons
Last season under Setien, we won 3-2 with a decent performance
Under Valverde, we won 4-1
(4-1)
alpine socket
Messi was good you say
slender olive
Well
grim thicket
what was it 2-1?
slender olive
in what
alpine socket
And our midfield was better
grim thicket
i predicted more than 2 goals
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so there's that
slender olive
Eibar away
slender olive
yeah
Eibar on (decent) form
Draws with Valencia and Sociedad away
they really havent lost a lot of games
alpine socket
We are 6 points behind Sociedad
slender olive
6 points is doable
Sociedad are sure to drop points
We just have to hope they lose, and we win
spice magnet
Villareal will drop too
shouldn't underestimate master emery
grim thicket
We just have to hope they lose, and we win
ya thats not rlly top club mentality
alpine socket
But still
grim thicket
every team who's played shitty on defence have lost
shakhtar, alaves and all won becoz they were VERY VERY strong defensively
and trubin and pacheco saved the day for them
alpine socket
We have huesca
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Huh
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against alaves
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Is pedri fine?
grim thicket
that was their first laliga win right?
alpine socket
Saved the day yesterday
thin ivy
Is Carrasco top 5 la liga mids?
Also is Carvajal in top 10 RBs of all time or nah
Yes to both imo
hybrid python
Is Carrasco top 5 la liga mids?
He’s a wingback
hybrid python
Also is Carvajal in top 10 RBs of all time or nah
Top 3 easily rn
All time is debatable
thin ivy
He’s a wingback
WHAT? He's LM though right
hybrid python
More like a LM
grim thicket
all time? i dont think so
but top 2 rn def
lemme try naming 10 RBs better than carvajal all time
- Phillip Lahm
- Dani Alves
- Cafu
- Carlos Alberto
- Djalma Santos
- Javier Zanetti
- Gary Neville
- Lillian Thuram
- Gianluca Zambrotta
- Giuseppe Bergomi
and there are more right backs who have had great careers
so he def isnt top 10 all time
I wouldnt even say he's the best all time for Real Madrid....most people consider Chendo to be the best RB to play for Madrid
there's also Michel Salgado
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they are not in order so dont come at me, but i do consider Lahm to be the best ever
grim thicket
he is easily 1st or 2nd of madrid RB
probably third imo
Chendo and Salgado would be over him
Salgado is doubtful tho
grim thicket
mhm, salgado vs carvajal is debatable
i havent seen chendo play, its what everyone says
like, pele/maradona is the greatest WC player ever
or something like that
thin ivy
he is easily 1st or 2nd of madrid RB
I'd like to pick ramos too but idk he won all those trophies as a CB
torn ermine
i prefer ramos at CB
thin ivy
all time? i dont think so
Good list but not familiar with 4,5,9 and 10
thin ivy
i prefer ramos at CB
Still gotta give him credit for being a RB beast though.
grim thicket
rlly you dont know zambrotta and carlos alberto?
djalma santos was the RB in the 1970s brazil squads
torn ermine
what do you think of maicon? @grim thicket
grim thicket
what do you think of maicon? <@519243563389812784>
hmm maicon probably just misses out but debatable
could possibly be in the top 10
maicon's resume isnt as impressive as his talent tho, so idk
torn ermine
he isnt performing as many years as other greats imo
grim thicket
i think ll the guys i have listed are WC winners, and thats a huge factor
Maicon at his peak was absolutely awesome, but his peak didnt last long
grim thicket
longevity is a big factor there against him
torn ermine
he was class defo
grim thicket
the 09/10 treble team
def class
its a shame brazil didnt advance as far as wouldve been expected of them in 2010 WC
it was the peak year of Maicon, Lucio and Julio Caesar
Robben rlly ripped through that left flank tho
feral palm
It will
This is a different competition
There's supercup and copa del rey
You won it last year in saudi arabia
Bc of that Valverde tackle
It was also the competition that got Valverde sacked after we bottled a lead to Atletico Madrid in the semis
grim thicket
This is a different competition
doesnt the winner of copa del rey and laliga face off in the supercopa?
thats how i remember it....
spice magnet
laliga winner + runnerup + the two finalists of cdr
spice magnet
ohh
alpine socket
Just realised we can get an el clasico final for sc 😎 😂
alpine socket
Miss of the year
tepid hemlock
that wins over morata's yesterday? :P
keen gorge
I'd take Morata back if possible
pure adder
Yeah he's pretty good ngl
gilded mist
Really? Morata seems really bad when I see him play
I don't follow Serie A but when he plays for Spain he is shit
gilded mist
I would take any other spanish striker over him
pure adder
high pressing, deep appeals, dribbles
gilded mist
Aspas, Costa, or even Williams
gilded mist
high pressing, deep appeals, dribbles
he can barely touch the ball in international
gilded mist
2018 WC
pure adder
but he's got the talent
pure adder
he can give you an amazing match, then an awful one
gilded mist
like many other players
pure adder
Yeah
the fact they kept winning ballon d'ors every year, overshadowing amazing players ; Iniesta, ribery, sneijder, xavi, neymar, neuer...
gilded mist
I wonder what football will be after Messi and Ronaldo retire
without their being a clear 2 best players
gilded mist
how many goals is CR7 on?
pure adder
it's already very different from 2015
gilded mist
cause he was class last season
pure adder
yeah he was
but
if you compare him with man u's or real madrid's ronaldo he's just a goal machine, no more no less
hybrid python
hybrid python
messi is on a decline
torn ermine
Twitter
pure adder
o
feral palm
Bring Bielsa to barcelona
grim thicket
Aspas, Costa, or even Williams
Not bringing up Gerard Moreno at all? He has been awesome the past 2 seasons
naive marlin
alpine socket
Messi plays shit whenever he is about to break a record
thin ivy
@gilded mist Nice avatar
alpine socket
Alejandro Hernández Hernández will be the referee for the Barcelona vs Valencia game.
stiff fjord
Alejandro Hernández Hernández will be the referee for the Barcelona vs Valencia ...
VARLENICSA
sorry
hybrid python
@torn ermine damn Freddy you got nitro 💯
hybrid python
Now you can put a animated pfp
hybrid python
torn ermine
lol
grim thicket
wait am i the only one who didnt get free nitro!!
torn ermine
wait am i the only one who didnt get free nitro!!
hybrid python
even leo got a free nitro offer
No man I buy it by myself
grim thicket
not you
grim thicket
leo the mod
hybrid python
@elfin flower ohh him
hybrid python
He doesn’t has a nitro
grim thicket
discord
hybrid python
Wtf ?
torn ermine
setting > discord nitro
grim thicket
grim thicket
how did you get it for free
alpine socket
Eh
grim thicket
ah so it is a discord gift
alright
apparently discord hates me
i got no such offer 😔
alpine socket
What's it use tho
hybrid python
Bruh fr wtf
elfin flower
<@!730806202107428947> ohh him
e?
gilded mist
<@!636235013779750936> Nice avatar
alpine socket
Omg tomorrow's match is at 8:30 pm 🥳 🥳
Damn I don't have to stay awake till 3:30 am
fair yacht
torn ermine
the time when la liga took all of the XI spot in ballon dor 2012
thin ivy
1 atletico
alpine socket
Iniesta looks sad
alpine socket
Twitter
torn ermine
so he is saying puiq isnt working hard? 🤔 @alpine socket
alpine socket
Yea. Even in the last interview he said Puig doesn't work properly in training
fair yacht
tbh, who the hell would work properly if he knows he will never get chances..
alpine socket
Twitter
He financed Ronaldinho's loan move
Rumours that AC Milan has submitted an offer to loan Puig for 18 months with option to buy.
hybrid python
<@702602628969791608>
Font fc mudded man
hybrid python
Watched this
alpine socket
It's live
hybrid python
These are the people font hired for a thing called
“The women of Barça”
The people say
Why are there not women candidates in Barça
So it’s like a debate going
feral palm
Ah gotcha
hybrid python
They’re currently talking with eibar president
She’s like the 1st women president
In la liga ig
So ya she explaining them how did she became president and all
limber raptor
Who is the overall best out of these 4?
Kluivert
Henry
Stoichkov
Eto'o
feral palm
Breaking News 
Moussa Wagué 🇸🇳, 22 year old Barcelona Defender currently on loan to PAOK 🇬🇷, has suffered a potentially career-ending knee injury. The right back made a heroic goal line clearance in a game vs Aris Thessaloniki but unfortunately suffered multiple serious injuries in his knee by doing so. Wague has long term injuries in his patellar tendon, medial collateral, posterior and anterior cruciate ligament.
Fuck man..
Get well soon Moussa 💙❤️
spice magnet
this is sad 😔
gilded mist
Sad, get well soon Wague
tepid hemlock
what the hell did he do to get injured in several places in his leg O_O
now i need to find a replay
UFFFF
fucking hell
collided into the post
alpine socket
I hope he recovers.
elfin flower
No man
Pedri's one was so dangerous
I don't get the point of saving one goal to end your career
feral palm
He didn't make the challenge with the expectation of ending his career
Obviously
When you're in the heat of a game you'll do anything
elfin flower
yeah, but its way too dangerous
feral palm
And it went wrong for Wague
elfin flower
yeah I know, I've been in such situations. But, when you're in that kind of a dangerous situation, we're usuallly told not to. Cuz career is obviously much better than 1 goal
Unless the match is too high of a level
alpine socket
Twitter
keen gorge
feral palm
https://mobile.twitter.com/barcacentre/status/1340029152964075526
Gulp.
elfin flower
https://mobile.twitter.com/barcacentre/status/1340029152964075526
oh no 
feral palm
Putting these here in case anyone is interested
Barcelona in La Liga this Season
2 GAMES IN HAND
Goals Scored: 2nd [23]
Goals Conceded: 6th [12]
Big Chances: 1st [40]
Yellow Cards: 16th [24]
Ball Posession: 1st [63%]
Passes Per Game: 1st [591]
Shots Per Game: 1st [12]
Succ. Dribbles Per Game: 1st [13.3]
Corners Per Game: 1st [8]
Fouls Per Game: 20th [8.8]
Clean Sheets: 7th [4]
alpine socket
Yeab
elfin flower
The goals scored:goals conceded says it all
feral palm
But we're playing good football
alpine socket
Those defense flukes
alpine socket
Once messi gets form we'll race towards top
feral palm
If it wasn't for Ter Stegen's mistake vs Atleti, Lenglet's mistake vs Cadiz and Neto's mistake vs Alaves
We'd be first in the league
elfin flower
Our defenders are getting injured left right and centre
alpine socket
Damn
feral palm
Individual errors are what's costing us the points
elfin flower
Honestly speaking, the defense has just too many loopholes
alpine socket
Messi should starting going for the goals now
feral palm
Those mistakes against teams that park the bus
Making it impossible to react
We're playing nice attractive football and we're getting closer to where we want to be
But people want another manager dismissal
And look where we ended up last time we sacked a coach mid season
alpine socket
We were on the backfoot last match in 2nd half
feral palm
The laughing stock of world football
Yeah the 2nd half was weaker than the first
But it was 0-0
So a positive to take is that we didn't crumble under pressure and concede a stupid goal
A game is only won if we out perform our opponents on both ends of the pitch
alpine socket
Do you think we'll have the same backline today?
feral palm
And piece by piece we're doing that
I do
Don't fix what isn't broke
If there is a change It'll be lenglet for Araujo imo
alpine socket
Subbing off Busquets actually hindered that balance in 2nd half
feral palm
Busquets hasn't been poor this season all things considered
alpine socket
He loses ball but last game he was good
elfin flower
I don't understand why we're going for attackers, when our defense is the worst
feral palm
His overhead balls are quite good in breaking down the defence
He gets the balls in to Dest and Alba really easily
alpine socket
I don't want Xavi now, koeman is actually settling with this team
feral palm
The way I see the defence rn is a rubix cube that has so many combinations that are nearly what we need but just not there yet
plain elbow
koeman is not long term. xavi will arrive eventually
alpine socket
Laporta is rn fav because of his recent board members announcement
feral palm
I think Lenglet and Mingueza have a good understanding of one another, as do Umtiti and Araujo, Lenglet and Pique, Araujo and Mingueza, Lenglet and De Jong, Pique and Araujo, De Jong and Firpo.. the list goes on it really does. We just need to find what exactly works best
alpine socket
Koeman must get another season
feral palm
There is no question in my mind that Koeman needs to see out the season
plain elbow
honestly don't even be surprised if font or laporta miss out, considering these brainless socios
feral palm
It's not fair on the players, fans, and even any coach to have another turbulent season like last
plain elbow
even emili rousaud has a shot at the presidency
feral palm
Valverde was sacked bc of the pressure from fans for losing a worthless cup in saudi arabia during a congested schedule
Then we all celebrated, and brought in setien
elfin flower
Oh go to hell
feral palm
And that fucking ended well didn't it
alpine socket
I wasn't expecting setien
elfin flower
A coach with 0 experience was bought in?
Racing Santander coached 2 years back, how'd he manage in LaLiga
plain elbow
I doubt heavily that koeman will get another year if he ends up indeed doing poorly, doesn't matter if laporta or font come in
feral palm
Sacking Valverde mid season was a stupid decision
He should've finished the year
But he also should've been fired long before that
plain elbow
valverde should've went after anfield
feral palm
Valverde was a victim of Bartomeu's incompetency
elfin flower
Mid season sacking is the worst
feral palm
They never work
alpine socket
We can win something this year honestly. This team is not dependent on messi for goals atleast
plain elbow
the likes of bartomeu and rosell have stained us heavily, it'll take a masterclass and lots of time to revert the corruption those two have left behind
alpine socket
Well, they hired flick and we hired setien
elfin flower
But they rarely work
It has like a 20% chance to turn out well
plain elbow
honestly, we would've been better off with garcia pimienta
plain elbow
its not all about experience
elfin flower
Again, that's not the case everywhere
feral palm
Bartomeu doing contract negotiations:
elfin flower
alpine socket
Huh
plain elbow
xavi will need to fix up massive disparities within the locker room, but he'll get the team playing the attacking based game they all want.
feral palm
Barcelona's announcement of Setien claimed he had vast experience
alpine socket
feral palm
But literally their first point is that he couldn't avoid Relegation to the third division
Wait
I'm dyslexic
😂
He was able to avoid Relegation but the fact that's the height of his achievements astounds me
plain elbow
setien's betis was fun to watch though ngl, but this job was far too big for him and he should've never been put in the position in the first place
feral palm
Credit where it's due
alpine socket
It is always hard to manage world class players
feral palm
Eder sarabia was a good assistant coach imo
But he would suit an environment like Atletico Madrid or Getafe a bit better lmao
plain elbow
sarabia wasn't much help, if anything, he's way of being only made things worse. not exactly his fault though, the damage had already been done way before
alpine socket
Did laporta announce if he is giving koeman another season or he has another candidate?
feral palm
He hasn't discussed his plans for manager yet
Normally those things aren't talked about bc at the end of the day Koeman has a job that he wants to fulfil and if a presidential candidate comes out and says he's gonna fire him then that just puts a lot of pressure on the coach, his staff, the teams, and the fans
The presidential campaigns are to find out what their ideas are to help the system of Barcelona and make it a healthier club and business
I should run for barca president someday
feral palm
Font speaks too much for his own good
hybrid python
One laporta move mudded font yesterday
alpine socket
People say he has plans but I haven't heard anything other than xavi
feral palm
It's beginning to backfire for him
elfin flower
I'd personally not get Xavi in when Koeman's doing well
feral palm
He absolutely has plans other than Xavi but it seems to be what people are focused on most
hybrid python
That’s what he gives most the attention
I hated when he said Griezmann is the worst transfer ever happened
feral palm
Fans don't care what he has to say about barcelona's development of voting technology or women's involvement in the club, they just care about what he says about Xavi or players and that's why people assume his whole plan is Xavi
hybrid python
Kinda true but as a pre candidate you should never say it
granite sail
I hated when he said Griezmann is the worst transfer ever happened
Not the worst, but a bad one can be for a while
feral palm
Like leo u watched the stream earlier where he was talking to Eibar's female president
I don't think more than 100 people were watching when I was
feral palm
But a tweet of some quote he says about Xavi will get thousands of likes and rts
feral palm
Ultimately
alpine socket
If messi backs koeman, font is mudded completely
hybrid python
As if Xavi won’t come under laporta
feral palm
It's what we consider boring that's important for the club
And font has all of that planned I think
Laporta is the guy who will make fans fall for him with his banners outside the bernabeu and relationship with Raiola
alpine socket
Laporta wouldn't be bad, he by far has the best experience
feral palm
I'm happy with whoever wins the election between those two, they're both solid candidates
I just want what's best for the club
alpine socket
Xavi yesterday talked about of them both working together
hybrid python
Bruh just look at laporta management staff
He hasn’t announced sporting director yet
If he gets overmars it’s over for font
alpine socket
Yeah
feral palm
No
alpine socket
I'm quite sure it's overmars
hybrid python
There will be like 10% chance for him to win
feral palm
Laporta's board is full of business men
grim thicket
I have heard so much talk of Xavi becoming manager and ushering in a new era or something......what are xavi's tactics for that matter? and has he been any good in the other clubs?
feral palm
I have heard so much talk of Xavi becoming manager and ushering in a new era or ...
Yeah he's been very successful with al saad
But.. it's al saad
alpine socket
Did they won yesterday
grim thicket
yeah exactly
feral palm
His tactics are working well.. but this is a whole different game over here
alpine socket
But it's small
grim thicket
i wanna know in more detail what kind of tactics he uses
feral palm
Lemme find the video that circulated yesterday of one of their goals
grim thicket
since i dont watch their games
alpine socket
I've seen it, it's like pep's mini barca 😂
hybrid python
Xavi ball
hybrid python
He’s offside but a good play
grim thicket
it looks like the opponent team overcommitted on the press and got hit on the counter
alpine socket
The first one is good, leo sent it
grim thicket
right?
hybrid python
The press wasn’t that good but yea great build up
hybrid python
Wingers
grim thicket
well thats basically any tactic for a possession heavy team
hybrid python
You need people like kroos for it lol
grim thicket
yeah
hybrid python
I’ve seen his team score like 3 times
alpine socket
It looks great for saad, but for barca idk
plain elbow
well at barcelona he’d have better players
alpine socket
Better opponent's
grim thicket
this isnt rlly 433 tiki taka
feral palm
The only way I'd be comfortable with Xavi coming straight into the Barca team as manager would be spending a season running the B team
plain elbow
it’s not
grim thicket
you sure you guys wanna change to something thats not tiki taka?
alpine socket
It's over I guess
plain elbow
tiki taka is outdated, the game has changed
grim thicket
tell that to the millions of barca fans that arent you
feral palm
@CruyffistaPuigLover65 did not like that comment
alpine socket
Eh boy
grim thicket
why do u think fans hated ernesto?
feral palm
Bc he bored us
hybrid python
Puig fans are doing too much on ft lol
alpine socket
If u r talking about millions of barca fans, they must be from twitter for sure
plain elbow
xavi isn’t the most possession based manager, he wants his team to attack open space and probably gegenpress. it’s a modern a approach, a bit more expansive than koeman’s tactics.
grim thicket
his methods were effective
feral palm
Puig fans are doing too much on ft lol
It's ridiculous
alpine socket
He knew how to use messi
hybrid python
They’re hating on Pedri now
grim thicket
you shouldnt care about how they are playing as long you are on top
feral palm
I said on a twitter thread earlier that clearly Koeman is making a decision on Puig based on a criteria that we don't have the luxury of seeing
Perfectly reasonable thing to say right?