la-liga

[shell hedge]

Simeone: he spoke though

[severe oasis]

Why was real madrid vs atletico stopped?

[shrewd flume]

Atletico fans threw stuff on the pitch

[severe oasis]

Bruh

[shell hedge]

Lighters, keys and what not were thrown at Courtois

It was to the point that Simeone and their players tried to tell them to stop

the club officials threatened to permanently suspend the match if they kept going

[shell hedge]

https://x.com/theMadridZone/status/1840650946977689684 that's it?

Madrid Zone (@theMadridZone) on X

🚨Atlético Madrid will now face 2-3 game sanctions of a partial closure of the Metropolitano for last night’s actions. @marca

Twitter · Sep 30, 2024, 7:12 AM

[grave glen]

Only 2 to 3?

[wind plover]

yo hot take, vini < rodrygo

[grave glen]

That’s not a hot take honestly

They play like at the same level

And Rodrygo is playing out of position

so like he’s not even playing at full potential

[fading ember]

https://x.com/antogriezmann/status/1840675252868706651?s=46

Antoine Griezmann (@AntoGriezmann) on X

C’est avec le cœur plein de souvenirs que je clos ce chapitre de ma vie. Merci pour cette magnifique aventure tricolore et à bientôt. 🇫🇷

Twitter · Sep 30, 2024, 8:49 AM

[foggy cape]

😧

[ripe field]

https://x.com/atletiuniverse/status/1840676686221672828

Atletico Universe (@atletiuniverse) on X

💣🚨 BREAKING - OFFICIAL: Antoine Griezmann retires from international football.

Twitter · Sep 30, 2024, 8:54 AM

[hidden narwhal]

So guendozi will replace his position in france

[sinful acorn]

But why now? Why not at the end of the season? Why not right after the euros or at lrsst warn us ahead of time

[foggy cape]

Kinda unexpected

I envisioned him to retire after 2026 WC campaign

[sinful acorn]

I envisioned him to retire when he gets his wishlist move to America or simply retire entirely as some point

[foggy cape]

MLS is still a possibility

[sinful acorn]

Yeah we want him here. We had links to bring him in but ofc our ownership IS NOT ambitious. LAFC have Interest but I think Griezmann wants striker but giroud could be benched because of that

Also Athleti would ask for both of denis bouangas legs and 20M for him

So I just don't see it until he leaves on a free

[real hull]

https://x.com/433/status/1840706977552388555?s=46&t=KppbUmum0aHpVhzjh7IRFA

433 (@433) on X

🚨 BREAKING: Thibaut Courtois has suffered an injury to the abductor muscle of his left leg. He’s not expected to return before the end of the international break 👀🇧🇪

Twitter · Sep 30, 2024, 10:55 AM

[left mango]

Oh no

[mint plaza]

Meh they will do fine without him

(Not saying courtois is bad he's an elite gk)

[lament swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

https://x.com/theMadridZone/status/1840527224513990969?t=cVAxff7-3wg9FkrjJyEh0w&s=19

Madrid Zone (@theMadridZone) on X

🚨 There were a total of 3 minutes, 49 seconds of time wasted in 2nd half.

There were 8 minutes of added time. @marca

Twitter · Sep 29, 2024, 11:01 PM

crying about added time now

[real hull]

Subs and players wasting times … did he count em aswell

[copper bison]

i blame the subs

[topaz crypt]

Their backup isn’t inaki pena

[copper bison]

taking vini and rodrygo off in such a game like this is a risky and dumb move

it's not like we're 3 - 0 up even

[real hull]

No

[grizzled patio]

no

taking off modric for vazquez was the dumbest idea ever

when we had GULER on the bench

[faint turtle]

🥶

[real hull]

All this shit just for the game to end in a draw 💀

[grave glen]

Theyre derby rivals. Naturally you'd want to celebrate taking off 2 points off ur rival who's in a title race instead of handing them the victory and the opposing team swearing revenge against em to their own ground

[real hull]

I mean they yapped the same shit last season just for the game to end in a draw.. maybe this time might be different we never know but talking big before the game might just not end well

We have done the same mistakes aswell lol talked big before the game and then we end up losing

[weary depot]

I just hope we don't keep dropping points to the small teams

costed us last season

shouldn't cost us this season

[real hull]

Both losses happen cus of us not the opponent lol

First was the red card

And then the heavy rotations

[topaz crypt]

We will be back

[real hull]

Then disappear again 🗿

[topaz crypt]

It’s the cycle

[real hull]

Lol

[weary depot]

which is the reason why I'm calm

we rotated even after having 8 injuries

[real hull]

Atleast fdj is back

[weary depot]

it's not a skill issue of the team

we just need to survive until Sevilla

[real hull]

Gavi olmo and Fermin will be back after the international break

[weary depot]

bc Gavi Olmo and Fermin will be back

and Szczesny

[real hull]

And szczesny most likely will be ready to play and bench pena

[weary depot]

even Statue benched Pena

not hard

[real hull]

Yh lol

But tbh now that fdj is back

There might be rotations in that cb position cus garcia will start playing as cb again

[topaz crypt]

I could bench pena tbh

[real hull]

So there won’t be any reason to play cubarsi 90 min back to back

[grizzled patio]

https://x.com/theMadridZone/status/1840734553033298052

Madrid Zone (@theMadridZone) on X

🚨BREAKING: Kylian Mbappé has RECOVERED! He is called up for Lille. @carlitosonda

Twitter · Sep 30, 2024, 12:44 PM

bro dodged the derby 💀

[faint turtle]

It feels like a lose the game yesterday 😪

[faint turtle]

WHAAAAAAT? 🤨 how so fast

[sudden minnow]

it's almost suspicious isn't it

[grizzled patio]

it feels like a loss cause we conceded at the last minute man

terrible subs from ancelotti

[faint turtle]

Not the first time bro

[grizzled patio]

but now we take the 1 point and look forward

[faint turtle]

Courtois also 🤷🏽‍♂️

[grizzled patio]

no courtious is injured

[faint turtle]

Ofc 💯

[grizzled patio]

he was struggling to even kick a ball

in the 90th minute

valverde had to take the goal kicks

[faint turtle]

Yh yh you’re right

[faint turtle]

But that’s really suspicious

[topaz crypt]

What the

[grizzled patio]

vini got racially abused again D :

wtf

la liga and spain are so far behind other countries

[copper bison]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-critics-choice-awards-side-eye-confused-clapping-gif-14741917063569043913

[sudden minnow]

he has no regrets so

in short bobby should've just passed instead of kicking it in like that

[grizzled patio]

we will probably win the league

[sudden minnow]

well missing but

[grizzled patio]

i trust ancelotit

[faint turtle]

Idk what happen to him always in the derby

[grizzled patio]

this is his last season

[grizzled patio]

he doesent trust guler man

idk

[sudden minnow]

miraculously everyone is injured so conveniently...

[grizzled patio]

if guler was subbed in, we would have won

[real hull]

🤨🤨

[grizzled patio]

lucas vazquez is terrible in big games

he subbed in a right back when we needed a midfielder

that costed us the game

[sudden minnow]

it feels like we lost honestly

[sudden minnow]

agreed

[grizzled patio]

i meaen

theres nothing we can do but look forward to the next game

we are 3 pts behind barca

and 2 points above atletico

camavinga and mbappe are not injured anymore

[sudden minnow]

i think i feel like we lost because this gives barca a pretty good basis to not feel like we're a threat if that makes sense

[sudden minnow]

omg bring cama back we need him

[faint turtle]

don't worry about Atletico they are always happy with their 3rd place

[grizzled patio]

atletico have went trophyless since the 20-21 season ended

[sudden minnow]

they're so odd 😭

[grizzled patio]

they are not relevant

their trophy is playing against us

[sudden minnow]

that's what i was gonna say but i don't want lighters and chicken legs thrown at me 🤷‍♀️

[grizzled patio]

bro

simeone is such a clown man

but thats just how he is

[sudden minnow]

his lack of composure is amusing

[grizzled patio]

hope we win against them at home

[sudden minnow]

it's almost like he has no faith in his team 💀

[sudden minnow]

we will

[grizzled patio]

i lowkey think we will win all comps this season, but the CDR

[sudden minnow]

idk about ucl im thinking it's between us, city and bayern

i hope us but im getting a feeling it might be city

[hidden plume]

I don't think flick and the team are watching real playing 41 games in a row unbeaten and just imagine they are nothing to worry about

[hidden plume]

Nah, at this point you could even win the treble

[weary depot]

Madrid are unbeaten this ssn are they first?

[grizzled patio]

its too early to flex being first my guy

its been a month

[weary depot]

u can draw for 38 games and be unbeaten will that win u the league?

[grizzled patio]

why not flex being 1st after el classico

[hidden plume]

Im a barca fan and trust me. 3 points ahead of Madrid are nothing, it's almost like being 2nd

[weary depot]

ur showing 0 signs that you'll win a big trophy this season even in that "1 month"

[hidden plume]

They are a juggernaut this season, if we don't have a perfect run we are not winning the league

[real hull]

That win in el clasico would feel different this time cus we will break Madrid winning streak and they wont break our record so yh but its not a 100% win lets leave the time to speak for that

[grizzled patio]

we havent lost a single game with camavinga out, mbappe out, bellingham out, carvajal out, courtois out, ceballos out.

🤷🏿‍♂️

[weary depot]

Mbappe out for 1 game Camavinga and Ceballos are ur backups and Courtois didn't miss a game mate

[real hull]

Were they both out in the same time???

[grizzled patio]

last season we lost 3-1 to atletico around this same time, and we ended up winning the league and UCL

[hidden plume]

Yeah, seeing how it went with atletico I feel like we are the only one that can beat them in la liga at this point

[weary depot]

Carvajal missed 2 non big games

[grizzled patio]

courtois is out rn, and i promise you we will win without him

[weary depot]

did u draw 2 games asw during first 8 games?

[grizzled patio]

courtois ACL last season, and what happened?

[weary depot]

u have Lunin

?

[grizzled patio]

you know how many games we drew last season?

we drew 5 games last season

[hidden plume]

The ball is round, that's the best about football

[weary depot]

u have to start off strong which u did last season

we didn't

and ur not doing it rn

[grizzled patio]

you got capitulated right after el classico

[thick saddle]

When your blaugrana club looses 4-2, so you go to the other blaugrana club that wins 4-2 🥰

[grizzled patio]

womens football is growing

[thick saddle]

No I meant Levante hahah😭

[grizzled patio]

LOL

lowkey forgot about them

[hidden plume]

Women's barca ♥️💙

[real hull]

Women team won 10-1 not 4-2…..

[grizzled patio]

thought the video was barca feminino

[grizzled patio]

yeah

real madrid feminino arent as good

[real hull]

Nah injuries cooked us not the el clasico and we literally called the season over when ter stegen got injured

And we would have called it over again this season after that ter stegen injury

[grizzled patio]

1 gk isnt to blame

[real hull]

It definitely is

[grizzled patio]

there was a bunch of issues in the barca squad

[real hull]

He cant save shit

[grizzled patio]

ter stegen wasnt even that bad last season

inaki pena was worse

[real hull]

Im talking about pena…

[hidden plume]

Yeah I feel like a real Madrid fan watching women's la liga would have 2015 flashbacks

[real hull]

Ever shot is a goal if pena is the gk

[grizzled patio]

aruajo also had terrible performances last season

raphina was nowhere to be seen first half of the season

[weary depot]

Pena save % is 56%

😭😭😭

[grizzled patio]

felix and cancelo made mistakes too

there were a bunch of issues mate

[hidden plume]

Yamal

[real hull]

Xavi wasn’t using raphinha well tho

[weary depot]

?

[grizzled patio]

yamal had just started

[hidden plume]

Yamal was incredible

[weary depot]

oh

[real hull]

Cancelo was just inconsistent throughout the season

[weary depot]

nice accidental bait

[hidden plume]

Also lewandoski wasn't so bad but actually quite good. Almost scored in every match

[grizzled patio]

barca losing to antwerp, porto, girona and real madrid first half of the season, wasnt only on the GK

[weary depot]

he was bad in 2023

[hidden plume]

He should be the topscorer

[weary depot]

Antwerp we couldn't care less

[hidden plume]

Oh you mean last season

[weary depot]

yh even as a whole yr 2023 he was shocking

[real hull]

Started well in the first half of the season and then his ups and downs started

[grizzled patio]

Cancelo had terrible awareness

he didnt mark his man

[thick saddle]

bro woke up for some reason

[real hull]

Just his defense wasn’t that good

[grizzled patio]

i rememeber the disasterclass against psg and real madrid in april

[real hull]

He is NOT a rb or lb

[weary depot]

Cancelo is a big rsn why we lost against PSG

[real hull]

he is more like an attacking player

[grizzled patio]

you could have won with araujo on the pitch

lowkey

even if cancelo played bad

[weary depot]

yh but we could've easily avoided 2 goals without that bum

[real hull]

Yh we would have scored more than once

[grizzled patio]

Mbappe was dropping a stinker before araujo red card

[weary depot]

and Statue should've saved Vitinha's shot

bum asw

[real hull]

Tbh blame fdj for that

[weary depot]

the shot was saveable

[real hull]

He gave every time that vitinha needed to get that shot perfect

[weary depot]

FDJ a part time bum

[real hull]

Knowing ter stegen….

His reaction its just slow asf

[weary depot]

bum

Idk how ppl defend him

oh wait

yh Ik

bc he's a "legend"

[opal obsidian]

ter laden in big 2026 👋😂😂

[weary depot]

100% if he wasn't part of the 2015 team everyone would want him out

[real hull]

Deff

I just know that if szczesny randomly underperforms (i dont think it will happen)

We should literally just get rid of the useless gk coaching staff

[grizzled patio]

damn so it took MATS long term injury, for barca to finally get a replacement for him

[real hull]

Our board doesn’t move like madrid wants

We just fw players who have stayed at barca for long years and even tho they underperforms we still cant get rid of them somehow

[sudden minnow]

well true but it makes us look less threatening if that makes sense like we're obviously something to worry about but yeah idk if that made any sense

[real hull]

Or maybe flick knew that yall wouldn’t beat madrid so thats why he made heavy rotations🗿

[sudden minnow]

😭😭😭

[kindred stag]

Too bad the replacement is a soon to be finished keeper himself

I was hoping we got a long term replacement

[real hull]

Most likely is that we will go for diogo costa next season

[kindred stag]

Mendes tax again

[hidden plume]

Wait. You are an atletico fan?

[sudden minnow]

no 😭

[hidden plume]

Oh okay, you would've needed medical attention if so

[sudden minnow]

don't worry im not racist and i don't throw chicken legs at players 🙏😭

absolutely unhinged fans

[grave glen]

That was a peak derby match

[hidden plume]

Still better than being an NPC

Every reference to Man city is pure coincidence

[hidden plume]

I only watched the last 10 minutes, but it seemed intense

[thick saddle]

true friends 🤞

[silk thunder]

😭😭😭

[kindred stag]

Real

All this talk about atleti fans being violent, but this is what I expect when I watch rivals face off

[grave glen]

Correct

Ive seen worse in Milan derbys

What'd the fans expect? Hugs, kisses, and cuddles?

[grizzled patio]

they dont stop games in milan derbies mate

and i dont see racist insults to the players in milan derbies

maybe 20 years ago

[weary depot]

this is what happens when u ask ppl to react to a message

[grizzled patio]

but in 2024?

did we not learn from the heysel disaster

[grave glen]

but when espanyol fans run barca players off the pitch

[real hull]

U pretend the fans to go in a stadium when is derby day and act like they watching SpongeBob???

[grave glen]

Nope, just last year there were Nazi salutes and racial derogatory actions against players. Again, always expect the worst in a derby

[grave glen]

Expected

[grizzled patio]

https://x.com/theMadridZone/status/1840632432917172570/photo/1

Madrid Zone (@theMadridZone) on X

🚨One of the fans who threw a lighter at Thibaut Courtois was carrying a KNIFE. @elchiringuitotv 😳

Twitter · Sep 30, 2024, 5:59 AM

[real hull]

Not a single rival would have liked what barca did💀

[grizzled patio]

and smuggling knives into the stadium is ok?

"bbb-but its a derby"

players shouldnt have to constantly feel like they are targets when they play

[real hull]

Ig u never witnessed a single derby in a stadium

[grave glen]

No one is saying its ok? The main point is to always epxect the worse when it comes to derbys, as in dont act shocked when it happens

[real hull]

Yh

Deff

[grave glen]

true

[grizzled patio]

players shouldnt have to go to a stadium knowing they will get racially abused, things thrown at them etc

it doesent belong in football in 2024

[grave glen]

especially since some atletico fans are classless losers

[real hull]

It does….

[grave glen]

They shouldnt, and again no one saying that its ok or morally justifiable, but its to be expected

[grizzled patio]

no man

thats just backwards :/

[real hull]

Its a fucking derby bro

That shit is expected in every single derby to happen

[grizzled patio]

so? at the end of the day the players are human being

[real hull]

Like are u new in football or what

[grave glen]

Keyword here expected

[grizzled patio]

no tolerance for racism or violence

[grave glen]

No tolerance but still expected

[grizzled patio]

and its only a % of the fans that are doing it

[weary depot]

they're grown men and they should learn how to compose themselves in front of insults. There's a reason why Vini is the only one consistently fighting about it

(I'm not saying that racism is ok)

[sudden minnow]

it was entertaining but so unsafe

[grizzled patio]

well yeah theres nothing else to do

vini did good yesterday

he ignored the fans

[real hull]

Stfu and play

Thats what vini should do

[weary depot]

everyone is gonna get insulted one day and unfortunately with Vini one of the worst types is happening

[grizzled patio]

i guarantee you, you wouldnt say this to any of ur players if something happened to them

[grave glen]

Vini, for once, didnt lose his cool and acted like his usual annoying self. He let his actions do the talking so kudos for him

[weary depot]

Yamal got racially abused btw

[grizzled patio]

"stfu and play"

[sudden minnow]

vini's got an attitude it makes him look immature and selfish like if you wanna prove youre all that you gotta play and prove it

[real hull]

It happened with dani alves before….

[weary depot]

when he was 16

[grizzled patio]

yeah i know its sad

[grizzled patio]

so because it happened to him, it needs to happen to other players?

[weary depot]

yet he ignored them and let the club/league do its thing

[real hull]

Did he act like vini tho??

[grave glen]

Its mostly how he acts like a bitch towards every single thing the ref says, but again for once he was mostly composed yesterday. W character development

[grizzled patio]

youre literally making excuses for racism rn

noone has to be racially abused because of their actions

[real hull]

How?

[grizzled patio]

and what did vini do yesterday to warrant racial abuse?

[sudden minnow]

it was better aside from when he started yelling at a player i dont remember why

[grizzled patio]

@real hull are you black?

[light ledge]

I thought barca would play vs bayern next game

[sudden minnow]

play football that was it so embarrassing for athleti fans

[grave glen]

Eh it only happened once and its a derby so of course there will be shouting. Im saying he didnt contest the referee every possible turn

speaking of the ref

best ref in la liga so far

[sudden minnow]

the refs are all cheeks so the bar is pretty low

[grave glen]

insanely low bar

[real hull]

Random question but no

[grave glen]

Except him, ref yesterday was quite good

[sudden minnow]

exactly 😭

[grave glen]

only good la liga ref so far

laliga refs could be way worse but by no means are they any good

[grizzled patio]

its kinda ignorant for you to tell black players how to feel about racism, and how to act so that they dont get racially abused

smh

[grave glen]

if laliga refs were fair rayo would have an average of like 2 red cards a game

[real hull]

How lol

Dani alves literally got banana thrown at him and he just acted with class and didn’t yap shit about it

And he ate that aswell 💀

[grizzled patio]

you literally told me because dani alves got racially abused, that the other black players should just ignore it

those are literally diffrent peopel

2 diffrent emotional people

you cant control how people feel can you?

do you know how it feels for black footballers in spain to be called racial words and sterotypes when theyre on the pitch?

[real hull]

U can just shush em by playing

No need to talk back

[grizzled patio]

again

[real hull]

It would make em more racist towards u if u talk back at them💀

[grizzled patio]

you cant control peoples emotions

eventually the black players are going to snap

also

https://www.marca.com/en/football/2022/09/17/6325cfbce2704e34a08b45ce.html

[hidden plume]

To be fair though, those kind of players get paid tens of millions of dollars to play good and ignore such things, and I know that they are humans but they are still professionals. Im not justifing racist abuses though

[real hull]

They can just shush em with just by playing it shows more class

[grizzled patio]

you cant argue with someone that thinks racism should be normalized in derbies

bruh

[hidden plume]

Yes, they are professionals and should be able to keep their emotions in check when playing

[real hull]

Deff

[grizzled patio]

thats not gonna make the league any better

if you ignore racism nothings gonna happen

[hidden plume]

I know that, Im not saying we should normalise it

[grizzled patio]

it took vinicius getting a red card in may 2023 for la liga to step in

javier tebas

[hidden plume]

Im just making another semi related point

[grizzled patio]

thats when all the footballers started supporting against the campaign of racism in la liga

ronaldinho, r9

mbappe

rivaldo

all of them

[grave glen]

but theres no way to completely eliminate it from football sadly

especially not in a place like spain

[grizzled patio]

theres not, but theres a way to punish the racist fans, and the club

[hidden plume]

Like?

[grizzled patio]

didnt barca just get punished cause some idiots were duing racist stuff in the ucl game against monaco?

take their member passes or socio cards

[grave glen]

you can punish a club and its fans but racist behavior wont stop there

[hidden plume]

Yes but punishing an entire fanbase because of a minority of them is not fair as well

[real hull]

Yh

[grizzled patio]

if you punish the club, they are forced to take action

[grave glen]

theres only so much they can do though

[grizzled patio]

real madrid banned their ultras in 2014

[hidden plume]

You cant know some people will act that way before they even do that, what could they possibly do?

[grave glen]

they cant administer lie detector tests on every fan entering a stadium and ask them questions regarding what they think about minorities

[real hull]

Barca did too

[surreal finch]

We got cameras now so recently clubs can figure out their identity

[opal obsidian]

i think it's because of a nazi-ish joke

hold on

[real hull]

Yh

[grizzled patio]

theres diffrent racist groups tied to the clubs

you identify the members

and ban them or prison them

[grave glen]

even then, their presence is still felt throughout spain, and they continue to be active outside of the stadium

[grizzled patio]

ultras sur are banned from real madrid since 2014

[hidden plume]

Yes but they would just keep doing that, even without an organisation

[grizzled patio]

yeah outside the stadium

but not inside

theres not that much real madrid can do outside the stadium

[surreal finch]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boixos_Nois

Laporta banned them in 2003

[grave glen]

based

[grizzled patio]

yeah they are banned

which is good

[opal obsidian]

@grizzled patio

[grave glen]

boixos nois are a bunch of bums

[surreal finch]

Facts

[grizzled patio]

i promise you the people holding that sign up are gonna be banned

which is good

[opal obsidian]

100%

[grizzled patio]

thats how you take action

[opal obsidian]

isnt this technically racial abuse against flick himself

since hes german

[grizzled patio]

yes i think

[grave glen]

idk if its racist per say, since its directed at his nationality

but its definitely discriminatory

[weary depot]

we're banned from having fans in a UCL away game

[opal obsidian]

xenophobic

ig

not racist

[grave glen]

yeah thats the word

[real hull]

Thank god its against zvezda

[grave glen]

their fans get crazy

[real hull]

Balkan fans are crazy asf

[weary depot]

well we can choose which game from a year from now

[real hull]

Just balkan thing

[real hull]

They chose zvezda

[weary depot]

not like we would've been fanless against Bayern or something like that

[grave glen]

yeah but the serbian fans, especially zvezda and partisan fans can be especially wild

[weary depot]

seeing our games it's better than being fanless against Dortmund or Benfica

[real hull]

Yep

[grizzled patio]

💀

imagine provoking lunin of all people

[hidden plume]

People got nothing to do

[lament swallow]

stop believing everything you see from these journalists

[grizzled patio]

journalist?

bro its literally a video

what does that have to do with journalism

this is last season

[weary depot]

y r u bringing it up now tho?

[grizzled patio]

someone was making a point that "if you provoke, you recieve"

hence why vini recieved alot of abuse

[weary depot]

that's the case with him

[grizzled patio]

but thats obviously not the case if players like lunin are getting abuse

[weary depot]

2 different cases tho

[frail forum]

Yo, what happened with #TerStatueOUT in your username?

[weary depot]

I feel bad he's injured

[grizzled patio]

well lunin isnt black, so they cant use racial insults towards him

but they use the ukraine war

[weary depot]

it's coming back when I see him starting again that's not rotation

[weary depot]

that's a 1 time incident tho

[grizzled patio]

because lunin isnt a starter for us

the only time he ever started against atletico, he got abuse

lol

if he started yesterday it would have been the same story

[weary depot]

it's a derby

abuse will come in

it's about how u manage yourself

[grizzled patio]

still illegal

[frail forum]

Broski, you legit sound like a hypocrite now... You were legit saying that he should go out and he's destroying the club forgetting that he played a huge role in the 22-23 season... Just for you to feel pity on him now? (I'm out of the topic you guys are talking about... Sorry for that!)

[grizzled patio]

people get jailed and fined for it

[frail forum]

Agree

[weary depot]

oh yh 3 to Inter 4 to United 8 to Madrid (4 in a semifinal) I wonder what all those games have in common 🤔

[real hull]

I can bet everything that u don’t know how derbys work

[weary depot]

1 good season since 2019 and he was still horrible in big games

[grizzled patio]

its illegal mate

[frail forum]

I mean going on countries of players is... Spanish people should have had some strict rules too I gues...

[real hull]

Do u know how derbys work

If u do than u should know this things are expected to happen in derbys

[frail forum]

You forgot 26 clean sheets in 38 league games? IK that he ain't good in KO games when we really need him too... LOL!

[weary depot]

Ter Stegen costed us at least 2 UCLs I don't see where exactly he should be praised

[weary depot]

26 cleansheets bc of the defence in front of him

[real hull]

Its a derby mate

[thick saddle]

You guys know the difference between expected and okay, right? Just because you can expect something to happen, doesn’t mean it’s okay that it happens

[grave glen]

Which ones?

[weary depot]

moment Araujo went out of form or got injured he got exposed

[real hull]

I am not saying that the things they did are ok

All im saying is that its a derby and this things are expected to happen

[ripe field]

next thing these madrid news channels will say is that atleti is reason ww2 happened

[frail forum]

So you saying that MATS didn't block like 80 shots on target that season? And only conceded 18 in the League?

[weary depot]

2016 2018 and 2019

[grave glen]

Do you remember which games those were?

[weary depot]

Atleti Roma Liverpool

[frail forum]

Damn, broski broke the record that season...

[weary depot]

very saveable shots and he failed under pressure

[grave glen]

Thanks

[frail forum]

Anyways, he's shit in UCL or any KO games

[grave glen]

The liverpool one for sure the rest i don't remember it being his fault but okay

[weary depot]

Roma at least 1 goal should've been saved

especially the first one

[frail forum]

Yo chill mate

[opal obsidian]

mark andre ter rorist

[frail forum]

You're just being pessimistic about everything

[weary depot]

I cba if he's a club legend or not he should've been replaced since 2020

Griezmann rlly did a no look pen against Statue tears 😭😭😭

[frail forum]

I think Barca should go back to the old GK rotation format... Like MATS is great for league but fucks up UCL

Like one for UCL and one for League

[cloud sparrow]

#barcelona yw

[weary depot]

I don't think you've watched this ssn

[weary depot]

La Liga is fine

[frail forum]

BTW, what's CBA?

[opal obsidian]

mats got injured bro its over

[weary depot]

can't be arsed

[frail forum]

From next seaon dude...

[frail forum]

How TF do you expect us to get that abbreviation?

[weary depot]

next season he needs to get packed

[weary depot]

it's a common one?

[frail forum]

That's the first time I'm seeing it on online... 😐

[cloud sparrow]

What's TF

[opal obsidian]

its been used since 2019

iirc

atleast like the earliest i remember

[frail forum]

The fuck... And that's common... 😑

[cloud sparrow]

Never seen anyone write "TF" on the Internet before

[frail forum]

WTF? How TF?

[real hull]

Damn

[frail forum]

Never?

[cloud sparrow]

I'm using your logic lol

[frail forum]

Damn...

[opal obsidian]

What's lol

[cloud sparrow]

And either way I never see anyone write exactly "TF"

[opal obsidian]

i write tf in caps sometimes

[weary depot]

I have

and he's the most delusional person I've seen ever

[opal obsidian]

who

[real hull]

😂😂

[frail forum]

I always write abbreviations in caps because my dumb friends can't understand it... 💀🤦🏻

[weary depot]

a Barca fan in a server

[opal obsidian]

puditown now

i must ask more

[real hull]

😲

[shell hedge]

https://x.com/theMadridZone/status/1840797052789195197 Ethan's injured

Madrid Zone (@theMadridZone) on X

🚨Lille’s Ethan Mbappé has torn his quadriceps and will be out for 2 to 3 months. @le_Parisien

Lille play Real Madrid on Wednesday.

Twitter · Sep 30, 2024, 4:53 PM

the story might still be thrown out the window because Mbappe's availability is unsure

https://x.com/MadridXtra/status/1840742703958479002
https://x.com/MadridXtra/status/1840743190317379898

Madrid Xtra (@MadridXtra) on X

🚨 Kylian Mbappé was initially expected to be out for 3 weeks, but he got to work as soon as he got injured and the progress has been very good. The injury is less serious than expected. @marca

Twitter · Sep 30, 2024, 1:17 PM

Madrid Xtra (@MadridXtra) on X

🚨 Kylian Mbappé is feeling good. A decision on his availability will be made on Wednesday. @AranchaMOBILE 🇫🇷🔥

Twitter · Sep 30, 2024, 1:19 PM

https://x.com/MadridXtra/status/1840797697009156416

Madrid Xtra (@MadridXtra) on X

🚨 Courtois telling the Real Madrid bench "I got injured" in the last minutes of the game. @DAZN_ES

Ancelotti had already made 3 substitutions in 3 different windows and he couldn't do anything...

Twitter · Sep 30, 2024, 4:55 PM

[long sand]

Shane duffy

[grizzled patio]

respectfully we dont care about ethan mbappe man

the guy has scored 0 goals in his entire career

[cloud sparrow]

jauregizar has more

[thick saddle]

Yes. And the other guy was saying these things shouldn’t happen. It’s not okay. You guys are talking about different things

[shell hedge]

Mbappe might've recovered in time

Which makes me wonder if he would've changed anything in the derby, or if it would've had the same outcome

With how well Atletico defended, it probably would've been the same just with Mbappe taking part in it

[grizzled patio]

camavinga and mbappe will probably get minutes against lille

they need to be fit for dortmund and barca

[shell hedge]

If Mbappe gets his way, he's going to start against Lille

He wants his statpad session in the Champions League

Lille is the only club he would be able to statpad against

[shell hedge]

And another international break starts next week, they'll have time to recover before Dortmund and Barca

[hidden plume]

Against a french team? I guess Real Madrid won't just score 3 goal this time

[grave glen]

Ancelotti out ?

Wtf

[hidden plume]

What?

[shell hedge]

https://x.com/ChampionsLeague/status/1840684610260275524

UEFA Champions League (@ChampionsLeague) on X

Coming up this week 🍿

#UCL

Twitter · Sep 30, 2024, 9:26 AM

[hidden plume]

Im honest, I think Milan-Leverkusen will be an interesting one

Also, I didn't notice there will be arsenal-psg

[grizzled patio]

im watching arsenal psg

benfica and atletico

those teams are evenly matched

[cloud sparrow]

5th of october at san mames just you wait

[real hull]

Leipzig Juventus is also an interesting one aswell

[inner coyote]

Madrid lille exciting one

[grizzled patio]

No

[inner coyote]

Why

[grizzled patio]

teams arent evenly matched

[inner coyote]

Doesn't matter

We got the most title here in the ucl

[grizzled patio]

?

what

[inner coyote]

You wanna debate it?

[grizzled patio]

idk what ur trynna say

real madrid vs lille is going to be a fun match since real madrid has the most ucl?

what

[shell hedge]

Your match is on the 3rd

[cloud sparrow]

same thing

shhh

[shell hedge]

And it's the only one that even seems interesting

Porto vs United will just be a midoff

[ripe field]

https://x.com/FCBarcelona/status/1840822401871106216

FC Barcelona (@FCBarcelona) on X

FC Barcelona offical announcement

🔗 All the details:
https://t.co/ODRORHnqcE

Twitter · Sep 30, 2024, 6:33 PM

does this mean we're debt free

[grizzled patio]

time for las palmas vs villareal

[cloud sparrow]

no it just means your not losing anymore

[shell hedge]

It's a financial report before your stadium's finished

You're not debt free by any means

[grave glen]

No, it means things are going to the right track. Wait until 2026 hermono

Great sequence between Barry and Pepe

[light ledge]

Palmas scored

lets go palmas

[proper niche]

how does that mean it will be exciting?

[kindred stag]

Arsenal PSG, bvb Celtic, Girona feyenoord, Leipzig Juve are my blockbuster games for the matchweek

Expect all to be close and high scoring(prolly not Juve)

[sleek echo]

Alex baena is actually too fucking good

[kindred stag]

Golll Barry

This should be the winner

[grave glen]

Damn AI getting so realistic

[real hull]

Lmao u literally made it to say that💀

[grave glen]

I s2g I havent

Ask it that exact question

[pine sundial]

@nffc_27

"NFFC_27 robbed every week"

Stfu respectfully 🙏

Damn the ping didn't work

Welp

[lunar ridge]

bro was the match

[real hull]

Lemme try then

[grave glen]

https://x.com/statmusefc/status/1840855957527748788?t=gzQ_KBkWwtE0H7Vy88MIfQ&s=19

StatMuse FC (@statmusefc) on X

Assists since start of last LaLiga season:

19 — Alex Baena
19 — Yamal and Vini combined

Twitter · Sep 30, 2024, 8:47 PM

https://x.com/statmusefc/status/1840856547720905161?t=Mb4k2sRIulvCNL_RIpqttQ&s=19

StatMuse FC (@statmusefc) on X

Most assists in Europe's top five leagues:

5 — Alex Baena
5 — Lamine Yamal
5 — Bukayo Saka
5 — João Neves

Twitter · Sep 30, 2024, 8:49 PM

[grave glen]

Nah you made it say that 😭

[real hull]

How💀

U can literally see thats my first message I sent

Shit doesn’t respond with the same message to everyone lol

[grave glen]

I ain't lying either 💀

[real hull]

Ig shit knows ur a madrid fan so yh

And mines knows that im barca

So we both getting different responses

💀

[grave glen]

😭

Chatgpt thinks we're fools

[real hull]

Ask chatgpt if it knows ur fav team

Watch it says some random ass team💀

[real hull]

Make it to guess ur fav team

I made it once and shit said some random teams idek that existed 😭

(I made it to guess my local team)

[real hull]

Man utd first guess is crazy 💀

[grave glen]

It said fair point when I said am I plastic 😭😭

[grave glen]

Arsenal worse than man UTD?!!!!!

[grave glen]

Both are losers but arsenal cant even win a CL so i guess they are 😭

[forest zinc]

I never knew of the big hate train on Ferran Torres until today

He must be doing really bad performance wise at Barcelona. Horribly bad

Crazy considering he’s a PL Winner with man city and was a baller over there

[grave glen]

Both are bad

[foggy cape]

[grave glen]

I mean...

Nah i aint gonna say it 😭

[mint plaza]

Buddy

[inland oar]

he is everyone's owner

[dapper bolt]

Dont compare arsenal to utd

[grave glen]

Both bum clubs

[dapper bolt]

Meh

Some of my favorite players had their prime at arsenal, i think its the team i like most in the prem other than Leicester

[grave glen]

Im arguing with an arsenal fan rn

[dapper bolt]

I wouldnt say im an arsenal fan, I dont get happy when they win, specially nowadays, its just that again, some of my favorite players came from that club

[grave glen]

No not you

In the premier league server

The usual

[dapper bolt]

lol

[grave glen]

"Oh you support real madrid so ur a glory hunter"

[dapper bolt]

😂

[grave glen]

And then i respond with arsenal warra ucl 😄

Pretty basic stuff really

[dapper bolt]

Meh i respect arsenal fans

they have to deal with a lot 😂

[grave glen]

Theyre on the same lvl of delusion to barca fans for me

[dapper bolt]

Nah barça's on a whole nother level

[grave glen]

Hahahaha coook

Whose the most delusional in this server?

[dapper bolt]

@real hull or @weary depot

No offence yall

[dapper bolt]

yeah

[dapper bolt]

Also its not like arsenal fans would say that bc Ozil won a wc in 2014 theyre better than tottenhan

[grave glen]

Definitely pedriszn by a landslide

But tell you what tho

In other servers

Believe it or not

Theyre even more delusional than him

[dapper bolt]

No way

[grave glen]

I s2g theyre out there

[dapper bolt]

god

fans if what club?

[grave glen]

Oh no just barca fans

Ofc who else

[dapper bolt]

lol ofc

come to #real-madrid

[shell hedge]

Why do you keep bringing you arguments from other servers into this one?

No one cares about what goes on outside

[real hull]

I wont get any ex ligue 1 fan seriously

[real hull]

What happened??

[shell hedge]

Brought up an argument he had in the Premier League discord server, in the La Liga channel here

[real hull]

Oh 😭

[dapper bolt]

i was never a ligue 1 flag 😭

[foggy cape]

💀😭

[brave jungle]

Notice someone breaking a rule?

Think a ref should check something out? Want to avoid pinging them directly?
Just react to the message in question with the :sos: emoji. The reaction will be cleared, and you can report the incident to us.

[grave glen]

💀

[foggy cape]

https://x.com/atletienglish/status/1840658371214561725?s=46

Atlético de Madrid (@atletienglish) on X

Correa is so good 🤌🪄

Twitter · Sep 30, 2024, 7:42 AM

[fringe aurora]

https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1841012310891966747?s=46

Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) on X

🚨🔵🔴 Wojciech Szczesny completed his medical as Barcelona player and he’s set to be in attendance tonight for UCL game vs Young Boys.

Deal done until June 2025, all set as he’s new Barça goalkeeper.

Twitter · Oct 1, 2024, 7:08 AM

[frail forum]

Would be a good rotation option for Barça... Like MATS for league and this man for KO games and important games like UCL maybe...

[fringe aurora]

I just wanna se him step up for Barca today if he does wel done if he doesn’t ☠️

[frail forum]

He's starting today?

I saw somewhere that he ain't starting till National Break is over...

[fringe aurora]

That’s what fabriozo saying

His attendance for tonight ucl

👀

[frail forum]

Attendance can even be watching the match like Balde was in last season too...

[fringe aurora]

We’ll see how it goes

[frail forum]

That's why announcers announce "The attendance in the stadium is ___"...

[fringe aurora]

He might start or not idk but I think his going to take some mins in that 90s

Starting with the last games gk will be bad

[frail forum]

Okay

[frail forum]

Hm

[fringe aurora]

Him not saving saveable shots in rs insane

[frail forum]

He's somewhat good in league... But he always trembles in big games with pressure...

This rotation idea will be good

If they take this guy over MATS in big games, that would be good enough to live...

[fringe aurora]

Not believing that, agaisnt ousenana he was terrible and that is wasnt “big games”

[fringe aurora]

Starting inaki or what his name is in the league will make u go behind Madrid I think

[frail forum]

Nope, not Iñaki...

[fringe aurora]

Who else?

[frail forum]

I'm saying that, once MATS come back, it's better to keep this Szczesny for important games and use MATS for league games...

[fringe aurora]

Oh u got other gk called mats

[frail forum]

Maybe by extending Szczesny's contract further more...

[fringe aurora]

Do you belive szczesny can do the job he just recently came out of retirement 👀

[frail forum]

This would help build a good rotation...

[frail forum]

Buffon was excellent till 39... Szczesny is still 34 and just last season his performance was amazing...

I believe in him

He had 15 clean sheets
Which is actually good enough for the league...

[fringe aurora]

I’ll take a look how he was doing last season in juve

[fringe aurora]

Not bad at all

[foggy cape]

https://x.com/optajose/status/1841039311774367803?s=46

OptaJose (@OptaJose) on X

0.25 - With at least 40 games played, Álex Baena 🇪🇸 is the player @VillarrealCF ever who averages the most assists per game in @LaLiga (21 assists in 83 games in the competition). Source

#Villarreal 💛

Twitter · Oct 1, 2024, 8:55 AM

[weak gale]

Andres Iniesta has retired

https://www.goal.com/en-my/lists/barcelona-spain-legend-andres-iniesta-announce-retirement-football-40/blt1aaea05484d44462#csaa6a29bb714f0f0c

https://x.com/utdtrey/status/1838961954167111972?s=46

Trey (@UTDTrey) on X

Everyone retiring but my dawg still going strong

Twitter · Sep 25, 2024, 3:21 PM

[opal obsidian]

legend

[frail forum]

Yeah... Hopefully, he won't be injured in Barça...

If he goes, it's going to be a problem finding another GK now...

[grave glen]

Youd be surprised man how far some go 🤣

[raw wraith]

Yeh

[hoary mica]

https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1841053229783674904?s=61

Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) on X

🚨🇪🇸 Andrés Iniesta has decided to retire from professional football.

It will be announced on October 8, his number since day one — as @relevo reported.

Legend of the game. Don Andrés. ❤️‍🩹🪄

Twitter · Oct 1, 2024, 9:51 AM

Gracias, Andreas.

[ripe field]

only thing modric has over iniesta is the ballon d'or which madrid fans think he robbed

[grave glen]

Legend.

[grave glen]

Goodbye legend

[lament swallow]

greatest midfielder oat

[grave glen]

Zidane

[bold osprey]

Goodbye legend

[grave glen]

Goodbye Griezmann and Iniesta

[lunar ridge]

https://x.com/corner_che/status/1841090903252820185?s=46

Córner Che🦇 (@Corner_Che) on X

🎙️Informa @sanchis14:

👏🏼 DIAKHABY está casi listo para pisar el césped 7 meses después.

➡️ Está previsto que en los próximos 15/20 días pueda empezar a trabajar fuera del gimnasio, individualmente y muy progresivamente.

📆 Hasta abril por lo menos no volverá.

Twitter · Oct 1, 2024, 12:20 PM

diakhaby might be close to his full recovery

[cloud sparrow]

Thank you leyenda iniesta

[cloud sparrow]

Iniesta best attacking minded midfielder ever you can't change my mind

[bright grove]

The "Dani Jarque Siempre Con Nosotros" moment

[final jacinth]

Any Barca fans here

?

[fading ember]

You can find plenty in #barcelona

This one is a mix

[final jacinth]

I wanted to roast them

[thick saddle]

real

[lean wave]

Respects to iniesta

[lean wave]

okay too far

he is good

[grave glen]

Iniesta easily top 3 midfielders in history

[cloud sparrow]

Man united fan

[lean wave]

okay and?

still he is like top3 or 4 in that position

[cloud sparrow]

He's the best in his position

Who's better

Paul Scholes?

[lean wave]

First off stop naming man utd playing i would defo say no man utd player is on iniesta level so dont try that

[grave glen]

https://fxtwitter.com/totalcristiano/status/1840836088606105619?s=46&t=QgMqWhqqTYVCe30FWLQf0g

😭😭

[ripe field]

https://x.com/eurofootcom/status/1841121724135268443

EuroFoot (@eurofootcom) on X

🚨🇪🇸 𝐎𝐅𝐅𝐈𝐂𝐈𝐀𝐋 | Robin Le Normand has suffered a traumatic brain injury with subdural hematoma (when blood collects between the skull and surface of the brain).

Atleti confirm the guidelines established for this sort of injury will now be followed.

Strength to him. 🙏❤️

Twitter · Oct 1, 2024, 2:23 PM

thoughts and prayer for le normand

[lean wave]

Xavi is better imo and and pirlo is better imo

he is top 3 tho

[cloud sparrow]

Oh my god that's horrible

[proud grove]

Damn

[grave glen]

Yikes

May he come back stronger

[proud grove]

Did somebody collide into him

[cloud sparrow]

Xavi is not bettee
Did pirlo score in the wc final

[lean wave]

I hope for the best for him and his family

[lean wave]

Oh my days world cup final this and that

[plush shard]

Guys did you hear Iniesta retired

[cloud sparrow]

Iniesta also made a big change to what the 10 position was

[lean wave]

Some people theses days lacking in brain power when it comes to being actually fair or atleast being smart

[lean wave]

Dont even

he aint even top 3 in playing 10

yes he impacted it

[cloud sparrow]

I'm being fair iniesta is the best attacking midfielder ever

[lean wave]

but u ONLY NAMED HIM 3 TIMES

[cloud sparrow]

And what do you mean by that mister

How does that matter

I have an opinion as does everyone

[lean wave]

zidane is better dont even argue on that

[cloud sparrow]

Zidane only did skills was never that impactful on the pitch

He scored some nice goals

But at the end of the day he didn't do much else

[opal obsidian]

yes

[lean wave]

May god bless u

[lean wave]

He is defo impactful

this is stupidity at its finest

[thick saddle]

Wait what

[cloud sparrow]

Ask materazzis chest

[opal obsidian]

that’s scary af though

[cloud sparrow]

The only impact he made is on an Italian defenders ribcage and a volley in a ucl final

[lean wave]

Ask Iniesta leftover hair strands

[grave glen]

1. Zidane
2. Xavi
3. Iniesta
4. Kroos
5. Iniesta

There u go chat, if we're talking la Liga only

[cloud sparrow]

Iniesta over xavi and zidane

[lean wave]

we r talking abt all time best CAM

[lean wave]

this dude got retirement bias

and its a common issues with young fans

once a player retires he is automatically goated

and then the most outrageous takes rise up

[cloud sparrow]

The list is

1. Iniesta
2. Xavi
3. Zidane
4. Busquets
5. Kroos/Modric (interchangeable)

[cloud sparrow]

Well no bc I'm not out here glazing varane

[grave glen]

Oh forgot about Busquets, legendary cdm

[cloud sparrow]

Varane was super MID

[lean wave]

Read my chat logs

I have never once in my life mentioned varane in the whole time i am here

[cloud sparrow]

No lol

[grave glen]

I prefer Xavi's vision, tempo setting, and playmaking

[lean wave]

so every single thing u said is jst idiotic remarks

[grave glen]

And what's this zidane disrespect

[cloud sparrow]

Iniesta had a bigger impact imo

[lean wave]

What impact may i ask dont even mention WC final

[cloud sparrow]

He's overrated on that madrid team a lot more players did more

[cloud sparrow]

How did barça win so much earlier 2010s/late 2000s

[foggy cape]

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-disappointed-mad-upset-gif-26051039

[cloud sparrow]

If he wasn't there, the midfield would've been very lopsided

Iniesta provided that balance going forward and centrally

Which then left space for Henry, messi, villa

[lean wave]

Didnt zidane win a ballon d'or and wc in the same yr?

and then couple years later got a ucl

[cloud sparrow]

Iniesta was a master at making space for other players

[lean wave]

Tell me why do u start talking abt him now?

rather than before

[cloud sparrow]

At juve he was the best player on their team

[cloud sparrow]

Bc he never came up/this kinda discussion never came up?

I'm not out here talking about other teams best players all day

[grave glen]

U speak about having an impact, but Zidane had those as well no? 1998 World cup, 2000 Euros, his most infamous clash with Materazzi, ucl, ballon do'r...

[cloud sparrow]

Those French teams were very balanced in talent

[lean wave]

No one was talking abt the best attacking minded midfielders tho

[cloud sparrow]

Everyone did their role

Which then helped Zidane win the awards

[lean wave]

so did everyone in the spain final

[cloud sparrow]

And he also played on the pay to win Madrid teams so you tell me

[lean wave]

so ur point literally doesnt stand on shit

[cloud sparrow]

Villa ghosted that final idk wym

[lean wave]

so its jst villa?

[cloud sparrow]

Not that I am old enough to remember the final

But I remember villa ghosting bad after playing well

But iniesta had a massive impact on the pitch that day

[lean wave]

bro there are people literally saying villa was the most impactful player or atleast one of

[cloud sparrow]

And also off the pitch he's a great guy to mention too

[cloud sparrow]

In the final he played bad

[lean wave]

1 game yes but compare the whole tournament villa was better

[cloud sparrow]

Did a lot of work with unicef and other charities

[lean wave]

dont even try glaze on that shit

[cloud sparrow]

Different positions, it's hard to compare

You can't compare a midfielder with an out and out striker

[lean wave]

wait

what was the score in wc 2010 final?

and tell me who scored

[cloud sparrow]

Iniesta

1-0

His goal was made by him and fabregas

[lean wave]

most articles dont state villa underperformed

he played decent but it was never underperformed

literally what u stated was literally false

[lament swallow]

remove attacking minded and statement still stands

[lean wave]

and then go back to glazing the heck out of iniesta

i swear barely anyone thought he was number 1 best midfielder UNTIL he retired

[cloud sparrow]

Iniesta was the best midfielder going up the pitch

[cloud sparrow]

Me

[lean wave]

its jst the bias people have after he retires

[pseudo holly]

Ferran Torres is a fantastic player; the only problem is managers haven't figured out his best position. Personally, I think he's best when he's playing out wide—preferably somewhere outside the stadium.

[lean wave]

Literally what is it

Is he the best CM?

or the best attacked minded player

[cloud sparrow]

Going up the pitch yes

Defensively no

[lean wave]

i literally proved most of ur points wrong in some sort of way

[cloud sparrow]

You literally can't accept the fact I'm defending my point that iniesta is great

[pseudo holly]

@cloud sparrow I thought you were an Atleti fan, thank god you aren't

[cloud sparrow]

Fuck atleti

[pseudo holly]

Iniesta is definitely one of the greats of all time

[lean wave]

I never said he wasnt great

[cloud sparrow]

Iniesta in football overall is top 15

[lean wave]

ur overrating him so much

[lean wave]

who is above him?

[cloud sparrow]

Pele, Maradona, ronaldo, messi

[pseudo holly]

Kroos Modric clears

[cloud sparrow]

To name a few

[cloud sparrow]

Ok if this isn't bias idk what it is

[pseudo holly]

Pirlo gets a shout in the top 20

[lean wave]

u cannot be talking

[cloud sparrow]

Iniesta did more for the nation and team than kroos and modric even tho I think they're good players respectively

[lean wave]

He is top 20

[cloud sparrow]

So who's above him

[lean wave]

maybe top 22 imo

[lean wave]

messi ronaldo pele maradona

yashin buffon

[pseudo holly]

You are gonna argue that Kroos and Modric aren't one of the greats of this generation?

[lean wave]

cafu

[cloud sparrow]

Buffon over casillas?

[cloud sparrow]

No I think they're great

[lean wave]

gerd muller casillas

[pseudo holly]

Leave Yashin out, nobody saw him play

[cloud sparrow]

For me it's off the pitch issues that ruined kroos

[lean wave]

Tell me please when did i state it was ranked?

please

[pseudo holly]

Yes

[lean wave]

tell

me

when did i put it in order

[cloud sparrow]

Keep going mate

Keep going

[pseudo holly]

I mean no

[lean wave]

exactly

[pseudo holly]

@lean wave are you gonna bring scholes in the conversation

[cloud sparrow]

Watch him

[grave glen]

This poor man UTD fan, all hes done is defend a great player like Zidane and they keep bringing up Paul Scholes

[pseudo holly]

Zidane is obv top 10

[grave glen]

Top 5*

[cloud sparrow]

Zidane imo a bit overrated

[lean wave]

Not ranked (for the slowmate)
messi ronaldo r9 zidane cruyff pele maradona buffon casillas zico ronaldino beckenbaur di stefano puskas rivaldo Platini Maldini Baresi Eusbio van basten Romario Garrincha

[cloud sparrow]

Not to say yall are wrong it's an opinion

[pseudo holly]

BOBBY CHARLTON

[lean wave]

See this is the only way people can defend themselves i dont put any bias even to man utd legends

[cloud sparrow]

Van Basten over iniesta
BOBBY CHARLTON over iniesta

[lean wave]

check my chat long

[cloud sparrow]

BOBBY CHARLTON

[lean wave]

Van basten for sure over iniesta

[ripe field]

tchouameni should be jailed if le normand's injury gets even more serious

[cloud sparrow]

Without the injuries

[lean wave]

put iniesta in that era

[cloud sparrow]

Yeah

But no

[lean wave]

and van basten still winning his ballon d'ors and all his trophies

[cloud sparrow]

Also what did bobby Charlton do to be better than iniesta

[ripe field]

luis suarez over courtois for me

[lean wave]

iniesta aint gonna touch shi

[pseudo holly]

I don't really give a crap for atletis player

[cloud sparrow]

Now that's js disrespectful

The players didn't do anything to make the fans do whag they did

[pseudo holly]

I like Le Normand

But everything that club touches

[cloud sparrow]

Your not endrick blud bobby Charlton isn't like that 💀

[lean wave]

Wait i replace iniesta with xavi cuz xavi or ineista is changeable

[lean wave]

U havent made a single decent arguement besides from "iMpaCt"

[cloud sparrow]

Iniesta is a fraction better

[ripe field]

club you support checks out

actually disgusting

[cloud sparrow]

Impact means a lot

[lean wave]

Then all u do is jst "Paul scholes"

[ripe field]

le normand's life could potentially be ruined

[cloud sparrow]

All you do is "Bobby charlton"

[pseudo holly]

I would remove Zico, Platini, Eusebio, Bobby and Gariccha

[cloud sparrow]

Platini was ok

Not crazy

[lean wave]

u said more paul scholes or mentioned more abt him then i said bobby dont even say shit

[cloud sparrow]

Also eusebio stays

[cloud sparrow]

Nobody cares about your chat logs

[lean wave]

fucking idiot

[cloud sparrow]

The past ≠ now

[lean wave]

then stop tryna say shit that aint true

be smart for once in ur fucking life

[cloud sparrow]

????

[lean wave]

?

[lean wave]

?

[pseudo holly]

Don't say disgusting after the performance your club's Degenerate fans pulled off in the derby

[lean wave]

tf u mean ??

blind ass bitch'

[cloud sparrow]

Blind ass bitch?

[ripe field]

im not an atletico fan but le normand suffered a brain injury which could lead to permanent brain damage show some respect

[cloud sparrow]

Who you calling a bitch

[lean wave]

u dumbass

[pseudo holly]

El Atleti es un chiste

[cloud sparrow]

Have fun in time out then

[lean wave]

literally said "villa ghosted in the final"

[pseudo holly]

Creo que deberíamos calmarnos.

[cloud sparrow]

@tough star lagun nazazu lagun

No eso

El previo

[pseudo holly]

No hice nada malo

[cloud sparrow]

Oh you delete your message

[cloud sparrow]

No ti el otro idiota

Es q quito el mensaje

Q dijo q la compania de condones iba a pedirle perdon a mis padres

Porq es muy chulito

Pero tu no hiciste nada

No te preocupes

[pseudo holly]

Eso estuvo fuera de lugar.

[cloud sparrow]

Si ya

[pseudo holly]

Como decía, por eso odio al Atlético, no por nuestra historia, sino porque su afición es la más degenerada. Me hierve la sangre.

Por eso no viajo a esa zona de Madrid a menos que sea absolutamente necesario.

[gritty hawk]

a mi tmb y ni siquiera soy del R madrid