la-liga

[narrow cradle]

Los mejores jugadores de europa son siempre africanos

[grave glen]

Te lo juro que siempre son los argentinos los que dicen lo mismo

[thick saddle]

explica por que tu no crees que Nico Williams es español :)

[narrow cradle]

Que lastima, soy uruguayo

[narrow cradle]

yo dije eso?

mostrame donde

[grave glen]

Rioplatense, misma mierda

[narrow cradle]

les pregunté nada mas

[narrow cradle]

No xd

[thick saddle]

Porque su nombre es Williams? O por el color de su piel?

[narrow cradle]

Ah, vos decis que tiene que ver con su color de piel? No te parece racista de tu parte eso? Yo solo preguntaba por el apellido, como detallé arriba. Creo que el que tiene un problema de racismo sos vos

[grave glen]

Si lo estabas implicando, no te hagas el listillo ahora

?

[narrow cradle]

No me hago el "listillo"

[thick saddle]

bro doesn’t want to admit that he’s Spanish and talks about skin color and then tells me I’m the racist one 😭🙏

[narrow cradle]

<@&587288957419520027> gn, i want to report a racist member in this community -> @thick saddle
Check his german flag, adding to racist words against black skin players

[grave glen]

Literally told him he was born in pamplona and still denied he was spanish lmao, ngl this is the story of our life as sons of immigrants here, we get denied our whole identity

[thick saddle]

HAHAHA BFFR

[narrow cradle]

There is no room for racism here, leave, please.

You should leave this server

[narrow cradle]

Here we have another racist member

[thick saddle]

yup I told him too 😭 what an ignorant guy.
I‘m sorry for your experiences tho. I feel you 🙏

[thick saddle]

Yeah the only racist one is you here

[grave glen]

What a clown ngl

[thick saddle]

istg

[mighty fox]

@narrow cradle Do you have a problem with players from other ethnicities?

[narrow cradle]

Why do you think i do?

[mighty fox]

I'm just asking you

[narrow cradle]

Of course not!

I respect all human beings

no mather what

[thick saddle]

but how dare we say Nico Williams is Spanish!

[grave glen]

???

[mighty fox]

So please refrain from making comments like the ones you made here above...
We do not welcome this kind of behavior here...

[narrow cradle]

That's exactly what @thick saddle and @grave glen were doing

[thick saddle]

Hello, I would like to complain. Pls mute this guy 🙏

[narrow cradle]

They were double meaning my question just because nico williams skin

[grave glen]

honestly, just mute him

[mighty fox]

I read the conversation, you don't need to tell me what happened...
Now refrain from doing it in the future or you'll be muted.

[narrow cradle]

All right

[mighty fox]

It is not the kind of discussion we welcome in our football chats.

[narrow cradle]

I know

That's why i mentioned mods

[mighty fox]

Good, so we can move on now

[narrow cradle]

sure

[thick saddle]

still think a mute is deserved

But ok

I guess complains only work for certain people

[narrow cradle]

it isn't necesary

[thick saddle]

it is

[narrow cradle]

why?

I just won't mention it again

it's over

[grave glen]

everyone knows you started it lmao

[thick saddle]

because you were being disrespectful, rude and quite frankly racist 🥶

Kelz 🙏🔥🔥

[grave glen]

Dogwhistles and broad statements won’t save you

[narrow cradle]

not at all, i just read he actually was born in ghana and i entered here for someone to confirm or deny this

just to double check if it's right

[grave glen]

you could’ve went to his player profile on the athletic page or on wikipedia instead of a discord server with barely spanish people lmao

[thick saddle]

tf are you talking about? You didn’t come here to confirm or deny. You asked where he was born. Both of us answered and you decided to not believe it and instead make unnecessary and dumb comments

[narrow cradle]

but why a random web would say the truth?

[grave glen]

The official athletic club page would obviously say the truth

[mighty fox]

Let's move on now guys, please

[thick saddle]

truth? 😭 do you think were his family or what? We also get our information through the internet

How long is he muted for?

[spark stump]

Probably an hour

I think thats like the normal time

[thick saddle]

ohh thank you

[spark stump]

I mean i dont know i was muted for an hour once so ye

[grave glen]

Lmao deserved

[spark stump]

what lol

Do you mean me or the other guy?

[grave glen]

The other guy dw

[spark stump]

Ahhh oke haha

[thick saddle]

No you deserved the mute

You fucking suck, Paul

[spark stump]

YOU TOO SUVA

[thick saddle]

🗣️

[spark stump]

I will slap you fr

[thick saddle]

wowowowowow

[spark stump]

Lol nah we good we good

[spark stump]

Wowowowowowow

[thick saddle]

for legal reasons: we’re joking

[spark stump]

Yes

Before one of us gets muted

Lmao

[thick saddle]

😭

[spark stump]

And now YOU WANT SOME STRESS HUH

[exotic sky]

Bellingham shouldn’t win the ballon dor over vini

[lunar ridge]

💀

[exotic sky]

What he is mid

[lunar ridge]

i understand hating on bellingham but no way you just said vinicius over him on ballon d’or

[exotic sky]

Yea I’m lying kroos deserves ballon dor for euros

[lunar ridge]

I’d say its too soon for these debates

there’s an euros to be decided and copa america too

[grave glen]

True

Kroos has been Madrid's best player

Bellyham's last good match was back in Feb against atletico

[exotic sky]

Exactly

[grave glen]

Would give it to Kroos, but I don't mind Vini taking it

[real hull]

But his PR is insane tho

[grave glen]

He is a good player. He's just not world class, for me at least

[real hull]

Yh agree

[grave glen]

I genuinely hate PRingham but….

he’s been better than Vini this season so far

[lunar ridge]

go to sleep bro

i agree with you pero son las 3 tio

[grave glen]

nah vini is better

[grave glen]

Y tu tmbn jajaja

[grave glen]

Ehh ballon d’ors are all about g/a while in big tournaments ngl

[lunar ridge]

yo estoy viendome el mexico ecuador con mi padre

él si que esta sobao

[pale pecan]

Lamine Yamal: “Lionel Messi is the GOAT. To be compared to him is incredible, but nobody can be compared to him. I hope to have even half the career Messi’s had”
This is what 50% of Messi’s career would look like:

• 422 goals

• 150 assists

• 22 career titles

• 4 Ballon d’Ors.

• 3 European Golden Shoe

• 4 Pichichi

• 4 La Liga POTY
  No pressure lad

I hope barca signs nico William

[desert lark]

what’s pichichi

[copper bison]

la liga top scorer award

[verbal pine]

Ronaldo 2017 ❤

[quick haven]

Messi 2009 and 2012 negs

[vivid wagon]

man knows better than half of our delusional fanbase

stop comparing him to messi

[verbal pine]

Hlo

I was banned for a reason of, "messi is a rob.er" 😅

[dim oak]

Well deserved

[verbal pine]

No bro, RONALDO IS THE GOAT 🐐

[prime raft]

npc

[brave jungle]

Notice someone breaking a rule?

Think a ref should check something out? Want to avoid pinging them directly?
Just react to the message in question with the :sos: emoji. The reaction will be cleared, and you can report the incident to us.

[dim oak]

🧢 🧢

You guys just yapps alot about that wc

[vivid wagon]

reasoning with someone called "DEVIL BOY" isnt worth it bro

[dim oak]

Like i didn't see any proof that it was a robbery

[dim oak]

Yeah you're right

[sleek echo]

https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1807736459891294362?s=46&t=rqL7Z2-58fwSbkYp0yZWkg

Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) on X

🚨🔴⚪️ Robin Le Normand to Atlético Madrid, here we go! Agreement in place also between clubs on deal worth €30m.

Personal terms were already agreed on long contract for Spanish defender who wanted the move.

Formal steps to follow but Atléti sign new CB and want one more.

Twitter · Jul 1, 2024, 11:22 AM

[pure harness]

Good deal

Now hinicapie

[open prism]

🆘

[grave glen]

french-spanish footballer moving from la real to atleti, reminding me of griezmann

[covert dirge]

Real Madrid better then Barcelona

[verbal pine]

Yes, obviously

[grave glen]

Both the same shit ngl

[covert dirge]

Nah bro

Real Madrid a different level

[grizzled mountain]

exactly madrid miles better

[worldly jasper]

athletic bilbao

[white hornet]

Nahh bro.

[grave glen]

Ngl barça is less worse than madrid

They actually focus on their youth academy and give them chances

[vivid wagon]

cook

[kindred stag]

Kelz | FC Barcelona | soon?

[grave glen]

but barca is accused of paying refs

[grave glen]

Never loool

[grave glen]

Madrid have disrespected us more than Barça

And before the vini situation btw

[grave glen]

I guess

[kindred stag]

Case is shut and closed

[novel bronze]

not even close

real madrid is miles clear of barca

[thick saddle]

coook

[grave glen]

no it hasn't

[rigid dragon]

https://x.com/ESPNFC/status/1807424488302059786?t=_oOiv6SVLHGiGWVoWl8tSg&s=19

ESPN FC (@ESPNFC) on X

Mason Greenwood has been named Getafe's player of the season.

Twitter · Jun 30, 2024, 2:42 PM

[grave glen]

Madrid are some dodgy club

And even more dodgy after Florentino came

[grave glen]

Ilaix Moriba robbed

[novel bronze]

how that doesnt even make sense

it's a fact though that Real Madrid are better than Barca and have been for many years already

[thick saddle]

bro, you can be sure that EVERY top club has payed refs before. Football is capitalism, what do you expect?

Oh Shit

[thick saddle]

Wanted to reply to this

[opal obsidian]

the best women's attacker in the world

[grave glen]

You don’t think purposely inflating the market since the 2000s by throwing money and money at players constantly ain’t dodgy?

[thick saddle]

you’re only reasoning is that Madrid has won more trophies? 😭 I think everyone knows that currently, Real Madrid’s squad is way better. But that doesn’t make the club itself better

[novel bronze]

trophies aint everything

[thick saddle]

that’s what I’m saying

[grave glen]

barca fans watching prime barca highlights and still think they are that good:

[novel bronze]

im not trying to say that if you thought

[opal obsidian]

@thick saddle how's the move to valencia going so far btw?

[thick saddle]

So you don’t think Prime Barca was good?

[rigid dragon]

@grave glen off topic but goated pfp

[thick saddle]

Flight is late. Unfortunately.

[opal obsidian]

aw

[grave glen]

thats not my point its just barca fans live in the past

[grave glen]

thanks

[opal obsidian]

reminiscing about the past isnt living in the past

[grave glen]

thats how they cope about their current reality

[novel bronze]

we have better players and better results from our squad in comparison to Barcelona and although their academy is better than ours at producing talents doesnt mean we're shit. Barcelona just isnt as it was before. meanwhile Real Madrid has mostly maintained its dominant status for years. and that's true

[grave glen]

which is not changing

[opal obsidian]

it is

[novel bronze]

trophies isnt everything, but sadly glory hunters make it seem that way

[grave glen]

mbappe is gonna rule the football world

[opal obsidian]

https://tenor.com/ZoL1.gif

[grave glen]

who beats mbappe?

[opal obsidian]

a 17 year old defender

[novel bronze]

🤡

[opal obsidian]

kounde

araujo

we have 3 people who can pocket the ninja turtle

[grave glen]

doku is making kounde look like a joke

doku a average player at best

[grave glen]

It’s true that madrid are on top of spanish football rn, but are they a better institution??? Hell nahh 💀

[novel bronze]

I never said La Castilla is better than La Masia

[thick saddle]

Who tf cares? Let people enjoy prime barca. We know we aren’t what we used to be, so why not let us enjoy prime barca highlights and say that the good old times were good?

[opal obsidian]

suva calm he's just xp farming

[thick saddle]

me calm🙏

[grave glen]

Not even talking about academies, i’m talking about the club in itself, shady ass club

[grave glen]

good this proves my point

[novel bronze]

💀

[grave glen]

why are they not being investigated then?

[novel bronze]

yeah let's not talk about Valencia but alright.

[grave glen]

Your time will come lmao

It happened to barça and it will def happen to madrid

[grave glen]

I am not a rma fan but there is only 1 club being investigated in spain

[weary depot]

who?

[grave glen]

We’re a whole mess lmao, i know that myself

[grave glen]

barca paid negrira

[opal obsidian]

valencia fans hate peter lim and company though

[opal obsidian]

yes

we did

and recently we've been proven not guilty

😭

[grave glen]

laporta working overtime to pay off the investigators?

and thats not even true

[weary depot]

Court ruling us not guilty doesn't matter bc Lungs said we paid ref

[grave glen]

Osasuna got investigated last year, Huesca has been investigated for years too

[weary depot]

been confirmed by court 😭😭😭

[grave glen]

Investigations don’t necessarily mean you’re guilty

[opal obsidian]

Lunge, ball knowledge personified.

[grave glen]

osasuna? for what lol? wait isn't that old?

I think I heard about osasuna case

[grave glen]

Yeah the conference thing last year

For something in 2014

[weary depot]

for match fixing which is a more likely scenario than paying refs

[grave glen]

oh yeah

These cases take years and years

[weary depot]

and also

[grave glen]

its crazy how similar barca and city are

[weary depot]

it's been 1 year and not 1 document was found to make us guilty

[grave glen]

Huesca still are getting investigated since like 2020

[grave glen]

for what

[weary depot]

more than a year

[opal obsidian]

man i feel bad that we're actually feeding this guy's bait

😭

[grave glen]

its not bait

[grave glen]

A whole corruption scandal involving Tebas

[opal obsidian]

that's like saying the sky is green

[grave glen]

if rma are that shady why is there no investigation?

that was my main question

[weary depot]

it's harder to find stuff about those and literally no one cares they can take how long they want with a club like Huesca

[grave glen]

what benefit does huesca get?

aren't they in la liga 2?

[weary depot]

cuz Papa Perez knows how to keep secrets

[grave glen]

what secret is there?

please elighten me

[weary depot]

ask Rudiger he knows after kissing Var 😂

[grave glen]

oh investigator of the spanish football

[weary depot]

and as I said he knows how to keep secrets

[grave glen]

this is just assuming there are secrets to hide

for all we know there is nothing

[weary depot]

just wait till he leaves Madrid will get cooked 😭

[weary depot]

shady business with Figo

[grave glen]

nope thats just barca being dumb and not giving figo his wages he wanted

[weary depot]

not a known story at this current time when it would be if it was another club

[grave glen]

what was shady about the figo transfer?

[kindred stag]

What wasn't😭 Even further back, what about the Di Stefano transfer?

[grave glen]

The huesca owner was involved primarily, with some ex players to fix matches for bets

You can search about it, it’s called the oikos case

[grave glen]

like lose on purpose?

[grave glen]

no one has a clue or will investigate that way to old

[grave glen]

Don’t think it was that extreme

It also involved more clubs

[grave glen]

which are

[kindred stag]

Explain

[grave glen]

city has charges and barca pays the vice president of the refs

barca and city get favoured by refs

[grave glen]

The former team Reus Esportiu

pep coached both city and barca

[kindred stag]

It's common knowledge Spanish federation stopped his bar a transfer so he could move to madrid

[grave glen]

this is very old

[grave glen]

in fact city got most of their staff from barca

[kindred stag]

You support madrid😭

[grave glen]

i don't

i support inter

i just find it funny they accused my club of paying refs in the ucl group stage last season

[weary depot]

Figo only options were to pay Perez 23 million to stay at Barca or join Madrid

Barca had no choice whatsoever

[grave glen]

never heard of it

[weary depot]

not surprising due to what happened

[grave glen]

which wasn't true

[weary depot]

we still got robbed

by you

[grave glen]

barca getting a taste of what they did to chelsea, arsenal and psg

interesting

[weary depot]

we were robbed also in Chelsea and PSG

[grave glen]

this makes no sense

[grave glen]

we all remember the suarez dive

[weary depot]

watch the match or don't talk about it

[grave glen]

chelsea was robbed not barca

that 2nd leg vs chelsea is one of the most corrupt matches of all time

its like barca played with 12 players

[weary depot]

PSG should've had at least 1 red and conceded much more fouls which Barce were dangerous from

[grave glen]

do you know what barca's nickname is? "uefalona"

because of how many calls went barca's way

[weary depot]

that's why Abidal got a red? that's why Drogba kicked Pique in the balls b4 the red that's why we should've had 2 pens? that's the 2nd leg itself

Essien deserved a red asw

Ballack deserved to be suspended for both of the legs

[grave glen]

show evidence or its not true only the abidal moment was bad

[grave glen]

They were in la liga 2 some times ago then liquidated or something I think

[weary depot]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSYx5x5bn/

[grave glen]

thoughts?

this was 2019

[weary depot]

it went over every call and admitted the ones that we got away with

so don't call this biased

[grave glen]

We got cleared of that way back

[grave glen]

the video doesn't play

[weary depot]

it did for me

[grave glen]

good but when I searched up huesca case

it showed up

@grave glen oh its a betting scandal

Yeahh told you before

huesca lost on purpose after avoiding relegation

[grave glen]

Use this video instead

I just tuned in with what's happening

"Lunge"

Turning my phone off, nvm

[weary depot]

thx

[cloud sparrow]

germany moment (delayed public transport)

[thick saddle]

bruh fr. My last flight was late too

[shell hedge]

https://x.com/fcbarcelona/status/1807896878324818243?s=46

FC Barcelona (@FCBarcelona) on X

João Cancelo and João Félix are through to the #EURO2024 quarterfinals! 👏🇵🇹

Twitter · Jul 1, 2024, 9:59 PM

[lunar ridge]

ayo?

[terse cargo]

❌

not what happened at all lol

[weary depot]

get educated

[terse cargo]

alright pal believe what you want

😂

[weary depot]

🚨 Official Statement 🚨

FC Barcelona expresses its satisfaction with today's decision of the Barcelona Court, as it confirms the view defended by the club and denies the hypothesis of the alleged crime of bribery.

We are confident that justice will ultimately reveal the facts under complaint and establish the absolute innocence of the club.

[terse cargo]

mhm

[weary depot]

I'd rather believe an official statement from the club than a kid on Discord

😂

[terse cargo]

delusion

[weary depot]

u have a Perez pfp

ur last one to accuse of corruption mate

😭

[opal obsidian]

pedriszn

youre too susceptible to bait

[weary depot]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8hYoQ6IvFr/?igsh=NmFzN2hyeHN6cjA5 Ferran did the same thing and got a red

mikky_.frenkie

Frenkie dj21 ☠vini😂🤌
#frenkie #football #fcb #fcb #primefrenkie #forcabarca ##frenkiedejong #visçabarça #calsico #vinijr

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[foggy cape]

https://x.com/fabrizioromano/status/1808063070654136654?s=46

Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) on X

🚨🇸🇦 Álvaro Morata has received two proposals from Saudi Pro League. The best one is from Al Qadsiah, same club as Nacho.

Morata has always been giving priority to Serie A return.

NO decision made yet.

Release clause into his Atléti contract: €12/13m.

Twitter · Jul 2, 2024, 9:00 AM

[sleek echo]

12 mil for morata is a steal

[drowsy crest]

Btw

[foggy cape]

It does have its downside too

🤷‍♂️

[terse cargo]

btw

ngl i thought this "debate" died 2 years ago. football isnt played on graphs 👍

[copper bison]

LOL

[drowsy crest]

It was a joke if you didn't realize
Also this logic means scott Carson is beter than oblak

[drowsy crest]

Also wdym died years ago
There is very much a debate to be made
Valverde only was better in maybe the last 2 years
Overall, De jong at barca is way better as a player than Valverde at madrid

[terse cargo]

😂 😂 😂

[drowsy crest]

What's funny lad
Just because he won the ucl he's better?
If de jong played at madrid he would've won the exact same amount

I said overall not rn I ment his barca time he is better individually

[terse cargo]

de fraud at barca - 5 years, 1 liga 1 copa del rey
fede at madrid - 6 years, 2 ucls 3 laligas 1 copa del rey

😂😂😂

good players win trophies

[drowsy crest]

Try not to use trophies as you're only argument (impossible challenge)

[terse cargo]

If de jong played at madrid

except he doesn't

because transfers are not decided by raffle

[terse cargo]

"ermmmm try not to use trophies as your only argument erm" he says while also not providing any reasons why "FDJ" is better than fede other than a graph LOL

good players win trophies. bad ones dont

[drowsy crest]

I said it already lad
He's better individually

[drowsy crest]

Carson is better than oblak then?

Valverde: individual trophies
0
De jong individual trophies
8

For a player that good apparently how come he was never in a team of the season or best 11?

Or player of the monh

[terse cargo]

this works when you're comparing backup players but unfortunately fede & de jong have both started week in week out for their teams & look at the results pal

[drowsy crest]

Or midfielder of the season

[terse cargo]

football is a team sport

🙂

[drowsy crest]

Madrid without Valverde js the same
While without de jong barca would not be as good

[terse cargo]

😂 so you dont want me to use trophy logic and instead argue using baseless hypotheticals LOL

the jokes write themselves

you're getting packed btw

[drowsy crest]

You're basically comparing the teams for which they play rather than the player itself

[drowsy crest]

Already did lol

[drowsy crest]

I'm using you're logic

[terse cargo]

no you aren't

fdj took 4 years to win his first laliga LOLLL

[drowsy crest]

You're calling Valverde better with the only proof being that he's won more trophies
Not how good he's been
Not his overall contributions
Not his individual statistics
Etc
That's what I call somebody without proof

[terse cargo]

name me top 5 most memorable fdj barca moments in 15 seconds

[drowsy crest]

Lmao

Yoy want me to do that

Maybe name proof first

[terse cargo]

ermmmm better overall contributions and "how good he's been" have results pal

it's called TROPHIES

😂😂😂

[drowsy crest]

Teams have results pall

[terse cargo]

teams have players

what is fede

a player

a cog in the team that wins trophies

[drowsy crest]

You're talking like Valverde is the reason that madrid have trophies

It's not even close

[terse cargo]

ermmmmm he is?

[drowsy crest]

Compare raphinha to vinicius

Are they the same

Are they as good

[terse cargo]

you're going off topic buddyo pal

[drowsy crest]

No

Tell me

[terse cargo]

trophies are the main aim of the sport

[drowsy crest]

Is barca as good as madrid

[terse cargo]

if you are a player in a team that cant win trophies, you have FAILED

it's called accountability

so far fdj has won 1 league and nothing else important

in 5 years

[drowsy crest]

My point was
That de jong was better individually
You're proof that he isn't is by using everything besides how good he is individually

Maybe if you compare them IN general

Than yes

But individually

So trophies

Asidr

[terse cargo]

you still cant tell me how fdj is better individually btw

you're insisting on the "individually" part but still cant prove anything

team achievements are the only thing that matters

[terse cargo]

and you seem to have forgotten about the assist in the 2022 ucl final 😂

or are you gonna try and argue against that using random hypotheticals? 😂

[drowsy crest]

You're proof for comparing somebody teams aside is by using their teams😭🤦

[copper bison]

forgetting the valverde assist in the ucl final

[terse cargo]

you have 20 seconds to prove to me that fdj is better than valverde individually

time starts now

[copper bison]

de fraud won't reach that level

[drowsy crest]

I know it's what matters but that's not what I'm doing

[drowsy crest]

Fine

Better pass %

[terse cargo]

😂😂😂

[drowsy crest]

More complete player

[terse cargo]

OH MY DAYS

[drowsy crest]

Better tackle rate

More progressieve passes

[terse cargo]

COMPLETE PLAYER CARD AGAINST VALVERDE

😂

[drowsy crest]

Yes

[terse cargo]

OH MY DAYS

[grizzled patio]

how?

[terse cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-grade-fail-failed-letter-f-remarks-gif-17926584

F

Fail

[copper bison]

complete player excuse?

be serious

[terse cargo]

wow numbers and graphs!

looks like ceballos was better than gundogan and pedri in 22/23 then! LOLL

flawless argument pal

[drowsy crest]

Does Valverde defend assist and attack at the same time

[grizzled patio]

smaller sample size isnt impressive 🤣

how many minutes has de jong played this season

[terse cargo]

this guy doesnt watch football

[grizzled patio]

dude has been injured for how long

[grizzled patio]

he does

[terse cargo]

ceballos > de bruyne

[drowsy crest]

Now compare minutes played

[terse cargo]

LOLL

[grizzled patio]

smaller sample sizes arent impressive mate

[terse cargo]

now compare trophies won

im waiting

[copper bison]

does a player have to be 100 percent complete in order to be good

[terse cargo]

this guy is straight waffling btw

[copper bison]

brother how is ceballos considered good by the fucking graph

[terse cargo]

not only is fede better than de jong in every thing he mentioned but his graphs and numbers arent even good arguments

hes just delusional

[copper bison]

this had me crying

ceballos barely played this season LOL

[terse cargo]

trophy logic is the only logic that matters in football
numbers and graphs are IRRELEVANT

[grizzled patio]

its 22/23

he played more there

but i get ur point

[copper bison]

fairs but still

ceballos is not that guy at all

[terse cargo]

guy said compare minutes played meanwhile his comparison had fede with more minutes

😂😂😂

own goal

[vivid wagon]

no raphinha is better 🥱

[copper bison]

in fifa maybe

[brave jungle]

Notice someone breaking a rule?

Think a ref should check something out? Want to avoid pinging them directly?
Just react to the message in question with the :sos: emoji. The reaction will be cleared, and you can report the incident to us.

[pseudo flicker]

Raphinha targeted by Al-Hilal, Barcelona waiting for EUR 100 million

FC Barcelona have set the price for Raphinha at 90-100 million euros due to interest from Al-Hilal. The Saudi club is willing to pay this amount, and their coach Jorge Jesus has engaged in contract talks. Raphinha, who has been playing for Barcelona since 2022, currently has a contract until 2027 and is at the Brazilian national team's training camp during the Copa America. Last season, he scored 10 goals and made 13 assists in 37 games.

Source: Fernando Polo

[copper bison]

Raphinha has 9 goals and 11 assists this season and his value is 100 million?

am I hearing this right

[pseudo flicker]

Lewandowski at a crossroads, the end of his representative career?

Robert Lewandowski, a key player of the Polish national team, admitted that he was increasingly considering ending his national team career. In an interview for uefa.com, he emphasized that he would make the decision himself, without outside influence, when he felt it was the right moment. Lewandowski expressed regret over the injury that prevented him from fully participating in Euro 2024 and stated that he did not want to regret leaving too early. At the same time, he emphasized that he enjoys the atmosphere in the team and is not worried about his physical condition.

Source: uefa.com

[kindred stag]

If Antony can go for 100 mil, anyone can

[copper bison]

or grealish

[pseudo flicker]

Roque's misfire, quick end in Barcelona

FC Barcelona brought in Vitor Roque in the winter to compete with Robert Lewandowski, but after a few months the club wants to sell him due to poor form. The Brazilian was initially supposed to join the team only after the 2023/2024 season, but his transfer was accelerated. Roque disappointed expectations, rarely played and did not perform well on the pitch, scoring only two goals in 16 matches. Currently, Barcelona and Fiorentina are negotiating, with the Italian club preferring a loan and Barcelona a permanent sale.

Source: Gianluca Di Marzio

[granite folio]

Joined the club this year and already being used as an economic lever

[weary depot]

selling players is a problem?

his registration isn't guaranteed that's why we want to offload him

[granite folio]

A big problem when it's after 6 months of the player joining

[granite folio]

That's a big problem

To sign players without being able to guarantee registering them

[weary depot]

he was registered as a loan last season

[weary depot]

oh no! not like 19 clubs in La Liga don't have that problem

[granite folio]

Excuses

[weary depot]

we have high earners remaining that's why his registration isn't guaranteed

and his form is not that good but he still has a market

[granite folio]

Lewandowski?

[weary depot]

?

[granite folio]

Isn't he one of the big earners?

[weary depot]

yh

[granite folio]

Big mistake to sign him

Especially for the wages they did

[weary depot]

one of the best strikers itw

with one of the biggest names in the world

u expect him to be given the same salary as someone like Kounde or something

[grave glen]

pedri is overrated

[vivid wagon]

kounde disrespect 👎

[weary depot]

not near Lewa in name status

[vivid wagon]

yeah true

kounde cooks tho best player for france last night man was pinging top class crosses every time he had the ball

[weary depot]

underrated

[ebon harness]

Top 5 Leagues just hits different with the values

[weary depot]

more goals in UCL than Messi and Ronaldo combined in 2024

[kindred stag]

Xavi made kounde a world class rb and Christensen a reliant dm and y'all are telling me he's not at the same level as Ferguson....

[terse cargo]

common sense

[terse cargo]

...

[low delta]

Barca and Rma Future.

[grave glen]

doubt they get nico williams

I think he will stay at athletic club

[copper bison]

he did say

[low delta]

What did you “kekw” for?

[low delta]

He’s interested in joining barca and Laporta is interested in signing him😭

[grave glen]

and they are broke

[low delta]

He’s worth 30-40m

They have that

[grave glen]

they can't afford it

[low delta]

They’re about to return to 1/1

[low delta]

@foggy cape can barca not afford Nico or this guy baiting

Am pretty sure barca have that money

[grave glen]

if they sell raphina

[low delta]

They’re about it dw

He’s the closest to leaving

[weary depot]

don't listen to what lunge says

[low delta]

Baiting innit

[weary depot]

yeah

[terse cargo]

nico williams is on 300k p/w btw

[grave glen]

yeah athletic club doesn't use money for transfers they use it for wages

[terse cargo]

if you think laporta will pay that much in wages

then

you're probably right

but

that's also a reason to not get him

because their wage bill is already fucked lol

[grave glen]

lewa has 300k+

[brazen cedar]

what the fuck

[grave glen]

thats their transfer policy

[brazen cedar]

300k for nico williams

[brazen cedar]

how on earth are they affording to pay that much?

[weary depot]

if you think Nico is demanding 300k

[grave glen]

I just told you

atheltic club don't use money for transfers

[brazen cedar]

I mean la liga is very strict with these rules right?

[grave glen]

they use it for player wages

[grave glen]

athetlic club rarely ever sign players

[brazen cedar]

interesting

[brazen cedar]

@grave glen what team do you root for?

[grave glen]

inter

milan

[brazen cedar]

nice

[thick saddle]

how

[grave glen]

every time I watch him he is just losing the ball

[thick saddle]

[grave glen]

fabian ruiz is better then pedri

[terse cargo]

ermmm thats kind of how it works

if you're on 300k and you're moving to a bigger club your first move would be to demand more

[terse cargo]

swear you're the only guy here with eyes

pedri is a professional loser of the ball

[weary depot]

Nico's reported salary is 7-8 million

that's not 300k

[grave glen]

facts

[copper bison]

the question is why would nico have to accept getting lower than 300k in a bigger club, while he's still young and not old and on the brink of retirement

[weary depot]

^^^

[thick saddle]

That wasn’t the question 😭

[copper bison]

there's no universe in where i would probably rate pedri

[grave glen]

pedri has good passing and vision other then that he doesn't excell in anything else

[terse cargo]

k i stand corrected, nico is on 200k p/w
he will definitely ask more from barcelona lol

[weary depot]

he won't cuz that's normal salary

[terse cargo]

😂😂😂

sure

[copper bison]

we don't know that

he could ask for more

[thick saddle]

Pedri is not a bad player, if that’s what you’re implying. Go watch some games again. He’s always there creating chances.
I could however agree, that he is slightly overrated currently (at least some people overrate him). He’s not in his best form but I would actually blame that on the injuries. He has the potential, he just can’t reach it yet (unfortunately)

[thick saddle]

thats bullshit

[terse cargo]

he may not be the strongest, or the fastest, or the most consistent, or the best leader, or the best defender

but at least he's

...

[grave glen]

Factos

Both Bellyham and Pedri are overrated

[copper bison]

another barcelona cute handsome boy that girls fall in love with

[grave glen]

he is spanish so he will get picked for barca

[copper bison]

but is ass on the pitch

[weary depot]

lmao

[grave glen]

wow ter stegen only 120k???

U want true excellence? Watch Musiala. Now that's a baller. None of that stinker performances being covered up by a goal or an injury merchant player

[weary depot]

he deferred his wages

[grave glen]

yes

[copper bison]

another musiala rep man

get me off this server

[terse cargo]

if u think he wont demand more than 200k then idk what to say to u pal

[terse cargo]

😂😂😂

[grave glen]

if you don't watch musiala you won't understand why he is good

[terse cargo]

oh man

[copper bison]

i do

[grave glen]

How so? Musiala is excellent. I see no problem with repping him

[weary depot]

he won't reject a club he wants for money mate

[thick saddle]

Yup. Musiala is class. And I still think Pedri could be on the same level. But yeah… injury prone. Bro destroyed his whole body

[grave glen]

pedri is not even close

[thick saddle]

❓

[terse cargo]

look pedri doesnt deserve to be in this conversation altogether

and between musiala and jude i think the answer is very clearly jude

[weary depot]

ur mad he cooked ur club 😂👋

[grave glen]

Last time Bellyham had a good match, it was back in Feb I believe? Against Atletico? Pedri has been a hospital merchant but he's been doing well in the euros so far, apart from the last match

[grave glen]

when?? you went to europa

[copper bison]

even if he's excellent i'd still pick jude

[weary depot]

when u robbed us

[thick saddle]

Dude wtf. Now that’s one of the weirdest things I’ve heard today

[terse cargo]

musiala can only do half of what jude can do

operating deep? no hermano i will stay up front and spam dribbles

[grave glen]

he is a number 10

not 8

[terse cargo]

and jude does both positions better than musiala

hence why he is better

[thick saddle]

What did Jude do?

[grave glen]

but he can also defend sometimes when the teams needs him to

[grave glen]

no

[weary depot]

that's like saying Mbappe is bad bc he doesn't go play cb

[terse cargo]

pafe ur inter gimmick is not working buddy

[grave glen]

as a 10 musiala is in his own league

[terse cargo]

i know it's u

[thick saddle]

I feel you guys don’t even watch the matches. This is honestly an insane take

[grave glen]

Who would I pick? A player that can carry the ball forward, dribbles past 4 players at a time, and is technically gifted or a player whose only strength is finding space and timing his runs with above average defensive capabilities?

do people understand how good musiala?

Answer is clear I'm afraid

By far Musiala is better

[grave glen]

I agree

[thick saddle]

Not even question tbh

[grave glen]

musiala is geniunely one of the last footballer players that can dribble no joke

[terse cargo]

so according to you... jude is not technically gifted, and cant carry the ball forward.

so in other words, you don't watch jude

thing is i dont even need to argue i can just wait

and time will prove me right

[grave glen]

unless musiala gets injuries nothing is stopping him

[copper bison]

btw if you wanna talk stats, musiala this season has 12 goals 7 assists
jude (who had to play a role he never did before) has 23 goals and 12 assists

[grave glen]

musiala is not a stat based player

[copper bison]

im saying in general

musiala never had to play a position he never did

he's comfortable

[terse cargo]

nothing stopping musiala uno

from what

[grave glen]

yeah why need to change

[terse cargo]

winning the bundesliga?

😂

[grave glen]

Jude carrying the ball forward? Seems like u watch the ball not the player my friend. Bellyham is more of a passer than a ball carry. Speaking of his passes, he attempts to create those forward passes but seems to be inconsistent in those as well

[grave glen]

dominate world football

[copper bison]

no it shows that the guy who played in a role he never did, did more than the other guy

[terse cargo]

😂😂😂

oh man

[grave glen]

bayern is not going anywhere

you think bayern is finished or what

Luckily, people are starting to catch up to his PR and calling him out for it, particularly the English fans. Madridstas are too busy with overinflated stats in Twitter and comparing him to zidane for some reason

[terse cargo]

ermmm they just signed a manager with nothing but a relegation on his cv as well as eric fkin dier and "Michael olise"

this isnt the bayern we used to know

[grave glen]

yeah they are gonna sack him when the results go bad or wait for klopp

[terse cargo]

klopp wouldnt go for bayern job he's coached bvb

[copper bison]

so klopp can just join bayern even tho he managed bvb

LOL

[grave glen]

tuchel?

the chamions league winning manager for dortmund managed bayern

[terse cargo]

klopp views things differently

[weary depot]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C87l-BmA3AY/?igsh=MWNkdG9kcmF5NzBuYw==

madridzonetv

🚨🚨| BREAKING: Semi-automatic offsides will be used in La Liga next season. But NO goal line technology❌

Instagram

[terse cargo]

klopp built more of a connection with the team

[grave glen]

Average Tebas moment

[terse cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/chiringuito-tomás-roncero-cristóbal-soria-cristiano-ronaldo-cr7-gif-23811895

[grave glen]

I see I can understand your point

bayern needs muller or some old player of theirs to become manager

[copper bison]

iirc Madrid and Athletic wanted goal line tech in the league

[grave glen]

This btw 🕊️💔

[grave glen]

nice griffths pfp

[weary depot]

bros were asked English or Spanish 😭

[grave glen]

Nice Heinrich pfp

[terse cargo]

we know the real team

https://tenor.com/view/chiringuito-tomás-roncero-cristóbal-soria-cristiano-ronaldo-cr7-gif-23811895

[foggy cape]

Depends on few factors

Nike new deal

Libero sale

And La liga confirmation of 1:1

[terse cargo]

and the sale of barca vision for the 10021th time

[shell hedge]

https://x.com/MadridXtra/status/1808213606330138938

Madrid Xtra (@MadridXtra) on X

🚨 LA LIGA NEXT SEASON:

• Semi-automated offsides
• Still NO goal line technology
• Only captains can speak to the referee
• 6th substitution allowed in case of concussion

Twitter · Jul 2, 2024, 6:58 PM

[copper bison]

"6th substitution allowed in case of concussion" atletico madrid players hearing this: 💀

[shell hedge]

Think that was always a thing though

[livid zinc]

A role he never played for? Yes. But attacking wise, he knows how to play in attack. Also not to mention his whole role is to finish of an attack that real madrid makes compared to musialas build-up style. Ones a finisher the other aint

[vivid wagon]

yes

[foggy cape]

[grave glen]

vini jr's purple patch for brazil lasted 1 game

[copper bison]

is he suspended for uruguay

[foggy cape]

Yeah

[copper bison]

dang

[foggy cape]

He’s suspended due to cards accumulation

[copper bison]

i don't think that matters since uruguay are playing better than brazil atm

[foggy cape]

Rapha and Rodrygo ball it is

[copper bison]

rodrygo could be on the left now

instead of up front

that's criminal

[foggy cape]

Yeah Raph can’t play in left

[copper bison]

is martinelli in the squad

[grave glen]

yes

[foggy cape]

He’s in ig

[grave glen]

dorival would never start him tho lol

[copper bison]

if he does, the front line would be
Rodrygo Martinelli Raphinha

[grave glen]

i doubt hed try something new like that in what will likely be the hardest game of the knockouts

[foggy cape]

Yea

He may start savio

[copper bison]

not a bad shout

better than having richarlison

[grave glen]

ngl richarlison hasnt been half bad recently

as much as i love vini id prob rather see richi start atp

[copper bison]

will he show up in big games though

or ghost

[grave glen]

i mean we dont know

but vini hasnt stepped up at all despite the chances hes been given so something has to be done

but tbf the entire squad hasnt been great either so

[copper bison]

yeah in general this squad can't do a lot

[foggy cape]

He was decent

Brazil should consider this a lost cause and focus on 2026 WC

[copper bison]

can't really do anything against the likes of uruguay and argentina

[foggy cape]

They did take years to rebuild

[grave glen]

i mean they kinda can but its just that they dont play like the favorites that this star studded brasil should play like

[foggy cape]

Both Uruguay and Argentina

[grave glen]

ig that true but brasil have no long term vision

[foggy cape]

They don’t have a short term one too

😭

Hope they don’t end up wasting their golden generation like Belgium and England

[grave glen]

brasil has a lot of good young players, especially in laliga, but i wouldnt call it a golden generation yet

and unfortunately anything short of a wc win will be seen as a “waste”

[foggy cape]

Prem too

Estavo and few others

Chelsea have been stockpiling on them in recent years

[sinful cosmos]

ronaldinho even said current brazilian players are the worst in their entire history

[kindred stag]

this is not even close to golden generation

[cyan wharf]

hes true though

have you seen how the current team plays?

[weary depot]

Pedri-

59.1 touches per game
9.3 possession lost per game
lost possession once every 6.35 touches

Bellingham-

73.4 touches per game
11.1 possession lost per game
lost possession once every 6.61 touches

professional ball loser vs best player in the world 🥶

[terse cargo]

football isnt played on a spreadsheet buddy

[weary depot]

Bellingham barely lost the ball less compared to a player that was playing with no confidence on the ball 😂😂😂

[terse cargo]

show me pedri assists in ucl finals

quick

[weary depot]

show me Bellingham performances in the knockouts real quick

[terse cargo]

show me pedris LOL

😂😂😂

[weary depot]

changed the result both times

[terse cargo]

now where did that take him

😂😂😂

[weary depot]

Barca without Pedri was losing 2-1 to PSG with 30 ish % possession Pedri came on assisted in the first minute and made Barca control the game better

[terse cargo]

now where did that take him

answer asap

[weary depot]

one player won't win a trophy by himself

no?

Messi couldn't even do that

Ronaldo couldn't do that

[terse cargo]

pedri the starboy who gets hooked in euros knockout games

😂😂😂

[weary depot]

Bellingham before the goal 😂😂😂

[terse cargo]

did he score a goal or not???

im so confused sir

wait

show me all pedri euros goals

[weary depot]

Bellingham needs goals to boost his pr

[weary depot]

show me Bellingham's best young player award for the Euros

[terse cargo]

show me pedri ucl final assist

asap

show me pedri ucl trophy

...

[weary depot]

so Nacho is better than Neymar and Ronaldinho?

😂😂😂

[terse cargo]

so we're comparing backup defenders and neymar/ronaldinho

nice logic buddy

[weary depot]

ur saying Where's his ucl

[terse cargo]

where is it?

[weary depot]

so technically more UCLs means better

[terse cargo]

yes actually that's what it means

[weary depot]

Nacho is better than Maldini Ramos Messi Neymar Ronaldo Ronaldinho R9 Suarez and many more players

[terse cargo]

but not when you're comparing scot carson to buffon

hope this helps

[weary depot]

why? more UCLs means better

Carson is better than Ter Stegen Buffon and on the same level as Neuer

[terse cargo]

how do i put this lightly

is there something hampering your thought process?

[weary depot]

I'm using ur logic which is more ucls = better

[terse cargo]

pedri - starter at barca when his legs dont explode
jude - starter at madrid

contributions:
jude - helps his team win ucl
pedri - doesnt do shit LOL

better?

[weary depot]

Jude same guy that ghosted against Bayern and City 😭😭😭

Pedri did something in the knockouts Bellingham didn't

one gifted assist won't make him better

[terse cargo]

jude did something in the final

that pedri didnt

wait pedri never even made it to the final

unfair comparison

[weary depot]

not his fault lmao

[terse cargo]

his fault lmao

google accountability

[weary depot]

his fault Araujo got a red card?

[terse cargo]

his fault he couldnt help his team win anything this season

[weary depot]

he was played in an unfamiliar position anyway and wasn't even 100% fit

[terse cargo]

jude was played in a new position this season btw

never played in it before

pedri is just a subpar footballer

[weary depot]

which suited his abilities

Pedri was put deep against PSG which didn't suite him cuz he's not that good defensively to play there

and also the injuries made him slower

[terse cargo]

Pedri was put deep against PSG which didn't suite him cuz he's shit

😂

jude can do that and play up front too

the only thing pedri had going for him was breathing down the striker's neck and now he cant even do that anymore

[weary depot]

it's like putting Musiala deep and expect him to do anything

[terse cargo]

another subpar footballer

[weary depot]

by that case Roberto is a better midfielder than Bellingham

[terse cargo]

you're moving goalposts

https://tenor.com/view/moving-goalposts-goalposts-changing-requirements-gif-25214446

you'll be seeing "pedri stinker and hooked" becoming a common theme soon

subpar footballer with a level akin to that of ceballos

[weary depot]

Roberto is more versatile and has more UCLs

that's ur logic mate

[terse cargo]

not my logic at all if you're literate

[weary depot]

u said Bellingham is better than Pedri bc he won more UCLs and is more versatile

I'm using ur logic

[terse cargo]

have a blessed day brother

[grave glen]

Bellingham and versatile in the same sentence?

Arda Guler is a bigger talent than Bellingham and he's more versatile than him

[terse cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1138130467057565747/1228091236385034250/togif-4.gif

[weary depot]

got cooked and bummed out. Anyways, you too.

[terse cargo]

cooked? you didnt answer any of my questions

😂😂😂

[weary depot]

ur questions didn't need an answer

[terse cargo]

ok back to square one

[weary depot]

Bellingham is the least talented young player and we both know that

[terse cargo]

show me pedri assists in ucl finals then

error 404

[weary depot]

not his fault he didn't reach the final

[terse cargo]

he plays in the team that failed to reach the final

as far as accountability works it is in fact his fault

[weary depot]

and he was gifted the ball

[kindred stag]

It's a team sport

[grave glen]

Mate. Bellyham hasn't had an above average game since Feb. But ur right, he's become an exceptional false 10 player. Like Scott Mctominay, but more consistent in goals and above average defensive stats

[terse cargo]

does pedri have a better ucl final assist

[weary depot]

so Messi and Ronaldo are bad bc they didn't reach the final every year?

[terse cargo]

ermmm who is comparing these guys to messi and ronaldo

[weary depot]

even they failed to bring their clubs into a final

[terse cargo]

weird logic bud

[kindred stag]

YOUR logic bud

[terse cargo]

not at all

[kindred stag]

Ronaldo didn't get to a ucl final till 2009. Was he trash till 2009?

[weary depot]

2019 was Messi's best year as an individual player ans still didn't reach the final

[grave glen]

He's acting like Bellyham showed up in the ucl most of the time 🤔

[weary depot]

2008 but yh

[terse cargo]

ermmm showed up when it mattered innit? that's why he won it

[weary depot]

he wasn't even that good in the final

[terse cargo]

does pedri have a better ucl final performance

😂😂😂

[weary depot]

it was 1-0 before his assist buddy

he didn't win his club anything

😂😭

[terse cargo]

does pedri have a better or more important ucl final assist

aired

[weary depot]

Messi didn't have an assist in a UCL final

[kindred stag]

Does Jude Bellingham have a euros young pot?

[weary depot]

still the goat

[kindred stag]

Show me Jude bellinghams kopa

[terse cargo]

nah but he also doesnt get hooked in knockout games 😂😂😂

[weary depot]

Bellingham needed Taylor Swift fans to win the golden Boy

😂😂😂

[grave glen]

He didn't show up in any of the games is the point. I remember the consistent stinkers he's had. He is a good player, but he's overrated af. Guler is a better talent

[kindred stag]

Far better performance than anything Bellingham has pulled up with

[terse cargo]

ermmm assist vs rb leipzig and assist in the ucl final right off the top of my head pal

[weary depot]

all England fans wanted Bellingham to get subbed off in every match at the Euros mate 😭

[terse cargo]

nice rewriting the narrative

[kindred stag]

If Southgate had half a brain, Bellingham wouldn't even be starting after his shitshows

[terse cargo]

show me pedri euro 2024 goals

asap

[weary depot]

show me Mbappe non pen goal

show me Ronaldo and Kane

[terse cargo]

luckily ldlf is conscious which is why he hooked pedri in the 52nd minute 😂😂😂

[terse cargo]

who brought mbappe into this LOOOL

😂😂😂

[kindred stag]

Pedri was one of the best players till then.

[weary depot]

cuz they were winning? why risk another player when u were winning

[terse cargo]

which is why he got hooked

because he was one of the best

[terse cargo]

😂😂😂

sure bud

[kindred stag]

You don't understand the game. Not your fault

[terse cargo]

hooked for dani olmo who then scored

[grave glen]

True, it covers up for his stinkers I suppose. Especially against Leipzig, he was stinking up the place

[weary depot]

he alr got Gavi injured playing him in a non important game

[terse cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/look-at-him-efe-omowale-assisted-living-he-look-so-funny-haha-gif-24147865

[terse cargo]

as opposed to pedris stinkers which land his team in the europa league

[weary depot]

we'll see who starts on Friday 😂😂😂

[terse cargo]

spoiler alert pedri will start and stink the place up

i will be there

he couldnt even perform vs GEORGIA 😂😂😂

[weary depot]

if Pedri got hooked he wouldn't start the next game

[kindred stag]

Don't you support Spain? Shameless😭

[grave glen]

Now tell me, what do u see when Bellyham plays? U see a player that looks up space to abuse and get a goal. U see a player who offers defensive contributions and the occasional forward passes

What else is there

[terse cargo]

i support spain not shitty la masia pr products

[weary depot]

that's why he created the most chances in that game

[grave glen]

Pedri isn't a la Masia product btw

[terse cargo]

hooked in the fifty second minute of the game

[terse cargo]

fairs hes still shit

[kindred stag]

Shitty la masia pr products have carried Spain over the years buddy

[terse cargo]

it's not 2012 anymore pal

[weary depot]

Bellingham did asw so what

[kindred stag]

And yet the best young winger itw is from la masia, as are two of the last three golden boy winners

[weary depot]

and if Gareth Southgate didn't have favourites he wouldn't even start Bellingham

[grave glen]

I'm not defending Pedri btw. He's been a hospital merchant this season. If ur talking about his euros games, he's been good? Apart from his stinker against Georgia, he's been doing well for himself on the attack

[terse cargo]

jude scored is quite literally the reason his team made it out and is still in the euros lool

[weary depot]

and that's a fact

[kindred stag]

He didn't have a stinker vs Georgia tho? Created so many chances

[terse cargo]

and then got hooked cos he stank

he ripped ass that game pal

[weary depot]

one lucky goal

[terse cargo]

i have eyes

[terse cargo]

nice tiktok screenshot. unfortunately for you he scored a goal

[weary depot]

and he still stank up the place

won't change that fact

[terse cargo]

as compared to pedri who has regular stinkers but instead without goals

fairs man

😂

[grave glen]

Nah let's be honest, he did have a stinker. Chance creation doesn't automatically mean ur playing well. Aside from that, he's been really good in the euros, surveying the pitch, creating chances, offering more offensive threat behind Morata and the two wingers

[weary depot]

if Palmer plays instead of him then there wouldn't be a need for last minute equalisers and winners lmao

[terse cargo]

if if if if if

but but but but

if my grandmother had wheels

[kindred stag]

That's his role in the team rn tho, getting in good spaces and creating chances. He did lose the ball a lot but that happens when you take risks

[grave glen]

Who's been ur best player in that Spain team @terse cargo

[terse cargo]

fabian

[grave glen]

Fairs

[kindred stag]

He's not a backpass 99% accuracy merchant

[grave glen]

For me it's been Fabian, Yamal, Nico, and Chinajal

[weary depot]

Bellingham 2 chances created 5× less than Pedri and 2× less than Pedri's "stinker" against Georgia

[terse cargo]

bellingham 2 goals scored. infinitely more than pedri

[grave glen]

He doesn't lose the ball that much in a consistent level tho. That sort of risk is fine with two explosive wingers. Pedri usually glides with the ball on his feet

[weary depot]

Bellingham said it himself that he makes lots of runs on the box and that brings u goals no?

[grave glen]

Rest man... Bellyham has been terrible in the euros. Everyone is better than him

[kindred stag]

Cucurella been sensational too. And laporte. And rodri

[terse cargo]

he is quite literally the reason his team is still in the euros

as for spain we can live without pedri

[grave glen]

Fair play to him, but does that wash away the stinkers from these three games? He saved his team, good job, but u gotta criticize the player too

[kindred stag]

They would actually have some attacking potential if that fraud wasn't there

Cole palmer needs an in

[terse cargo]

ya play foden there instead so they can lose to iceland

😂😂😂

[grave glen]

It's more of Kane dropping back as a false 10 to link up play, Bellyham being right behind him as his best position is a 10, and then u got Foden sticking close and attempting to drop deep

3 players taking up the same space

Southgate tax

[terse cargo]

kane needs to drop his dlp gimmick and get in the box

[kindred stag]

Where is sterling when you need him.

[grave glen]

One of those three has to be dropped. I'd prefer Saka as Foden is infinitely better on the Right wing than on the left

Make Bellyham an 8 alongside Rodri. And let Kane have his spot

[weary depot]

would still be more of a threat than Bellingham

[terse cargo]

which is why he has 3 goals in 34 games for england

fairs

[kindred stag]

But saka can do damage without drifting in. Foden is more of an inside forward than a winger

[weary depot]

goals isn't everything mate

doesn't mean u score ur good

[terse cargo]

the jokes write themselves here

https://tenor.com/view/look-at-him-efe-omowale-assisted-living-he-look-so-funny-haha-gif-24147865

[weary depot]

only for strikers

where goals is the main part

[grave glen]

Saka barely drops deep. He stays as far away from the 18 yard box as possible and starts his back pass gimmick

He sees two men ganging up on him and yet he never seems comfortable to take them on

[grizzled patio]

so has everyone in the squad

bellingham still managed to score 2 goals in a struggling england side

[weary depot]

he was asked to be benched for 3 straight games buddy

don't act like Bellingham is innocent

[grizzled patio]

?

Nothing is gonna happen

[grave glen]

True, but him especially he's been awful. Losing the ball continuosly, pointless retention of the ball, in one game he even occupied the Left side for the most part, functioning as a LW (?), trying to create chances and yet failing

[grizzled patio]

He wont function in a broken team

[grave glen]

Would've said he was one of the worst players on the pitch, but that award goes to Kyle Walker, John Stones, and Rice

[grizzled patio]

Alot of the players are out of position

[weary depot]

I don't mean by the celebration thing

[grave glen]

Yes, but continuously losing the ball isn't a Southgate issue, nor failing to do at least 2 forward passes. The pointless retention of the ball is a Southgate issue

[weary depot]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C88cjK8CDKZ/?igsh=dWFkcTFxeW13NHc4 Vini ball must be fun

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[grizzled patio]

Yeah he losses the ball, but him and saka are the only ones trying to push up ll

hes gonna lose the ball alot

thats just how it is

[grizzled patio]

acting like the whole Brazil squad isnt struggling

Vini cant do shit with a midfield that struggle

[weary depot]

but but Vini legacy bigger than Neymar's

[grizzled patio]

It will be

remember hes only 23

hes already secured his club legacy with madrid

im sure he will win a copa in the future

[weary depot]

Neymar was 19 outside of Europe and got top 10 in BD

[grizzled patio]

did he win it?

he didnt

you will be remembered for winning the bdor not coming in 10th

[weary depot]

Vini wouldn't be top 30 if he did what he did last season during that era

[grizzled patio]

"Era"

you mean Ronaldo and Messi

[weary depot]

Neymar at Santos would easily win the Ballon D'or rn

[grizzled patio]

Benzema won a Bdor at 30