la-liga

[grave glen]

Hay entrenadores increíbles como Iraola que te hacen milagros con presupuestos como el del Rayo por ejemplo

[narrow cradle]

Y el madrid no representa a españa. duela a quien le duela.

[nova moon]

para representar esta la seleccion

[narrow cradle]

el barsa representó a españa con Xvi iniesta, puyol, villa

busquets

El unico mundial de españa es con mitad equipo del barcelona

[nova moon]

ya

y

[narrow cradle]

nada, que el barcelona representa a españa y el madrid no.

[grave glen]

No te olvides de Casillas, Sergio Ramos, Arbeloa y Xabi eso sí eh

[narrow cradle]

Tambien ellos, si claro

pero las figuras de esa españa fueron otras

[nova moon]

para representar ya esta la seleccion que importa la nacionalidad en un club

[grave glen]

Si, es un mal argumento

La liga inglesa está llena de estrellas extranjeras, sino mira al City

Los únicos ingleses son Grealish, Foden y Stones

[narrow cradle]

Y.. yo digo que el nivel de españa esta bajo y tu me dijiste que el madrid ha ganado la champions. A lo que yo te respondo que ese madrid que gano la champions no tenia españoles...

ni el entrenador

[nova moon]

el nivel de españa se mide con la seleccion

[narrow cradle]

no creo lo mismo. los jugadores salen de los clubes españoles...

aparte, si vemos la actualidad de la seleccion española, es pesima

el mundial fue un espanto para españa

[nova moon]

el nivel es bueno simplemente

falta definicion

[grave glen]

Luis Enrique hizo bastante buen trabajo. Los eliminó la mejor Marruecos de todos los tiempos

[narrow cradle]

es bueno? buenos son los que quedaron en un top 4

[nova moon]

entonces todas las demas son malas

inglaterra es mala

[grave glen]

Sí, porque no pueden competir económicamente. La Liga necesita repartir sus recursos

[narrow cradle]

no dije que malas. pero no estan a nivel evidentemente

[nova moon]

y crees que marruecos y croacia son mejores que españa e inglaterra

[narrow cradle]

ahora mismo españa no entra ni en un top 10 de selecciones

[nova moon]

ah espera

penalti para argentina

[grave glen]

No estoy de acuerdo

[narrow cradle]

que dificil es dialogar con un termo como vos Factor. Yo estoy debatiendo con la mejor onda y todo lo que digo te lo tomas como una ofensa

no me contestes mas si no queres, yo quiero debatir nomas

[nova moon]

estaba bromeando no es ofensa

[grave glen]

Final de Qatar 2022
Francia (Mbappé) - Argentina (Messi)
Los jugadores más cotizados del PSG (Qatar)
No sé Rick... Me parece falso

[narrow cradle]

si hace un rato cuando empece a hablar me dijiste que era troll y que no me escucharan xd

si tanto te duele lo que digo, no lo leas

[nova moon]

ayer parecias un troll

[narrow cradle]

para vos parecia

[nova moon]

entraste diciendo eso sin contexto

[narrow cradle]

Qué queres decir con eso?

[narrow cradle]

solo pregunte por que las canciones las tienen que copiar de las argentinas. A lo que me respondiste que somos una colonia suya, cuando argentina se independizo en 1810 XD

no sabes nada de historia, muchos menos de futbol

[grave glen]

🤑

[narrow cradle]

mmm francia solo tuvo 1 penal menos que argentina y fueron mas relevantes. los penales qur tuvo argentina no ayudaron a que ganara. De hecho, 1 penal fue contra arabia que perdimos y el otro lo atajó el polaco

[grave glen]

Sólo estoy diciendo que en cuanto a ganancias y marketing se refiere haber tenido a Francia y Argentina en la final aseguraba la mayor cantidad

[lilac frigate]

1st half: Getafe 0-0 Elche

[narrow cradle]

mmm decime 2 mejores jugadores en el mundial que Mbappe y messi

No crees que fueron justos finalistas?

fueron los 2 mejores jugadores del mundial. sin duda alguna

[nova moon]

del mundial de qatar

[narrow cradle]

por alguna razon vos crees que fue marketing. pero entonces como justificas la cantidad de goles de hizo cada uno?

[narrow cradle]

si. como dije antes 5 penales. 2 irrelevantes por que uno fue errado y otro fue en el partido que perdimos

[grave glen]

Es posible que ambas cosas sean ciertas. Una cosa no quita a la otra

[narrow cradle]

no claro. pero el hecho de que sean los que mas marketing generan es por que son los mejores.

no se que tipo de vuelta le estas buscando. son top 2 mejores jugadores del mundo actualmente

la seleccion argentina venia de racha de 36 partidos invictos. el numero de invictos mas alto del mundo

[grave glen]

Haaland es mucho más que Messi actualmente la verdad

[narrow cradle]

Ahora? Si

[grave glen]

Kvaratselia probablemente también, y Benzema. En cuanto a atacantes

[narrow cradle]

Benzema? de verdad lo crees?

[grave glen]

Bueno esta temporada tal vez no

En todo caso yo pienso que el mejor jugador de Argentina no fue Messi

[narrow cradle]

Kvara tiene mucho que demostrar todavia. No subestimes lo que hizo messi. jamas volveras a ver algo igual

[narrow cradle]

para mi fue mac allister

jugo desnudo ese muchacho

[grave glen]

Entonces me estás dando la razón. Messi no fue el mejor de Argentina en el mundial. Pero si el con más marketing

[narrow cradle]

es subjetivo. pero objetivamente (numeros. estadisticas) fue messi.

[nova moon]

messi no

[lilac frigate]

8' Getafe 1-0 Elche Munir El Haddadi

[nova moon]

pe ssi

[hot crater]

Barca the best team 💙♥️

[narrow cradle]

Decime un jugador español que pueda compararse con messi o maradona

1

[grave glen]

Xavi, Iniesta

[nova moon]

es dificil comparar a messi en la historia no importa el pais

[narrow cradle]

De verdad crees que son comparables?

[grave glen]

Mucha razón

[nova moon]

pero iniesta y xavi podrian compararse a maradona

[grave glen]

En cierta manera sí. Fueron claves para que Messi fuese lo que fue. Fueron claves para Guardiola.
Fueron claves para la única copa mundial de España.
Y fueron los genios detrás del Tiki Taka

Los mejores números que Messi hizo, los hizo junto a Xavi e Iniesta

[narrow cradle]

Yo lo creo al reves. Messi fue clave para que xavi e iniesta historia.

[nova moon]

yo lo creo en el medio fueron claves para todos ellos

[narrow cradle]

No. los mejores numeros de xavi e iniesta lo hicieron con messi. Fijate en 2019 cuando ya no estaban ellos 2, messi seguia sobresaliendo

[grave glen]

Que año fue que Messi hizo 92 goles?

[void scarab]

goal almeria lead

luis suarez

wait lazaro

[grave glen]

@narrow cradle Yo creo que a nivel individual, Messi está en la discusión del mejor de la historia, pero me parece que estás menospreciando el legado de Xavi e Iniesta

[void scarab]

what is that baba

[grave glen]

[void scarab]

average mallorca game

what a goal

2-0 almeria

lazaro again

[grave glen]

lazaro

it all started from ignoring kang in open on the left

[void scarab]

he’s the only one playing

missed a sitter earlier tho lol

[grave glen]

rubi feels assured rn

[lilac frigate]

45+1' Getafe 1-(1) Elche Lucas Boyé

[grave glen]

Almería has a decent squad overall, they shouldn't have struggled as much as they did.
Relied too much on their youth signings.

If we talk about overall quality I think the three teams that deserve to relegate mostly is Cádiz, Espanyol and Elche.

they were top half weren’t they in the beginning?

[grave glen]

yea fair

[grave glen]

I think so yeah

espanyol not really but frick them

[lilac frigate]

HT: Getafe 1-1 Elche

[grave glen]

I think Espanyol have an awful squad. Their only good player is Joselu

I mean they really could get 3 points at times

but blew

[nova moon]

vamos elche llevate al getafe a la tumba

[void scarab]

bruh

[grave glen]

he blasted that

[void scarab]

rip hattrick

but i’m sure he’ll get like 10 more chances with this mallorca defence

[grave glen]

still long but yea

[grave glen]

exactly

[lilac frigate]

2nd half: Getafe 1-1 Elche

[void scarab]

there u go

gg

[worn thistle]

Well

[grave glen]

yea

finally

could be more

[void scarab]

ndiaye should focus on not touching the ball

[nocturne mango]

somebody said in the bundesliga channel barcelona no champions league is there some info?

[void scarab]

kangin needs to stop doing those reckless tackles

i still remember the ramos red card

[grave glen]

frustrated probably

[void scarab]

welp booked now

kangin muriqi off

given up ig

how far is he planning on being offside lmao

[dreamy island]

Almería leading mallorca 3-0

[lilac frigate]

FT: (17) Getafe 1-1 Elche (20)

[slender olive]

Rayo-Espanyol tmr

if Rayo win Esp are relegated i think

wait no nvm

[brave chasm]

Rayo somehow finds a way to lose to relegation teams

[bleak burrow]

rma best club

[low oxide]

0-2

[cobalt moth]

La Liga is so cheap man 😭

The premier league trophy lift versus La Liga’s is so much better

[slender reef]

Didn't Lee get straight sent off twice in same season before

[rigid flint]

@brave chasm For real?

La liga is cheap lol

[brave chasm]

what

[grave glen]

Barca 💙💙♥️♥️♥️

[brave chasm]

fartka

[void scarab]

ye against atleti and real

[brave chasm]

real madrid 🤍 🤍 🤍

[fair holly]

i'm about to piss off both

[brave chasm]

that madrid kit is sick

[nova moon]

the real clasico is betis sevilla

[lilac frigate]

1st half: Atlético Madrid 0-0 Osasuna

[wheat spoke]

Goal for Atletico Madrid

1-0

[lost venture]

Goal 2:0 to Atletico

Guess no one cares since Barca already won the league and Atletico already secured UCL

[foggy cape]

yeah

rayo have messed it up

but espanyol still in relegation spot

in atletico and valencia we trust

[brave chasm]

God damn it Rayo

losing to relegation sides

[shut garnet]

Atleti 3-0

[nova moon]

espanyol is good although they are in relegation

offensively at least

[twilit solstice]

3-0 Atletico

[feral thunder]

espanyol ffs

i mean they can score just fine but their defense is horrendous

[foggy cape]

Valencia 👀

[narrow cradle]

que lloron es vinicius

[mellow kindle]

Sevilla derby gonna be fun

[nova moon]

Betis le gana

[narrow cradle]

es hoy?

[foggy cape]

Yeah

Vamoos Sevilla

[mellow kindle]

Si

[nova moon]

en 15 minutos

[river summit]

https://vxtwitter.com/vartatico/status/1660348633563246596?t=8EJ6MGzVNxJXE2ojx_rMYQ&s=19

[green obsidian]

Chaos

[ionic night]

bro what is wrong with valencia 💀

[wraith breach]

he identified him amongst thousands!

omg

[green obsidian]

who started the fight

kroos took a freekick, gk saved it

why did a fight start anyways

[ionic night]

vini existing is always a reason for players to fight i suppose

same shit happened in several other matches involving him

bro gets done dirty for no reason

[green obsidian]

No

Most of the time its because he cries for fouls etc

but this time what happened

there was no foul

they just took a fk and it got saved

[slender olive]

Bruh

[nova moon]

people will always use all the insults they have to get the players lost

rival players

[surreal zealot]

Where do you see the sevilla vs betis?

[mellow kindle]

Is defensa central reliable?

[hallow hinge]

Bro

Why this racism don't stop ?

what needs to be done

[foggy cape]

La Liga needs to bring some changes

[digital arch]

nothing changing under tebass

[stray berry]

I wouldn't blame Vini if he choses to leave LL this year

He's been through so much shit for no reason, he's been taken down, beat up and provoked game after game, and nothing happens

[rain stone]

why would he leave

[stray berry]

And if he does try and stand up for himself, he gets sent off. This is not looking good for La Liga nor Real Madrid, who pretty much have done nothing for him after all the abuse

[green obsidian]

What?

This is the first time hes been sent off

[stray berry]

I certaintly wouldn't stay in La Liga after all this shit

[green obsidian]

Listen i dont know if you know this

[stray berry]

14 yellow cards this season, most of them were not warranted lmao

[green obsidian]

But most of the time its vini starting fights

[stray berry]

Pathetic display from La Liga

[rain stone]

figo used to get treated worse and he never retaliated?

[green obsidian]

He should’ve been given 5 against barcelona 2nd leg

But nobody talks about it

[stray berry]

Because he's being racially abused left and right? Because there isn't a single match where he doesn't have to deal with racist chants and overall complete disrespect?

[green obsidian]

Wdym racially abused

He provokes players

Fouls them

Cries for fouls

Diving constantly

[stray berry]

Are you stupid? He's literally called a monkey every game

He was called a monkey this game too, in fact

[green obsidian]

All of the above is still true

[stray berry]

So it's ok to be racist with him because of his "bad behavior"?

[green obsidian]

He judo slammed FDJ and got given only a yellow

Then ref went to militao

[raw spoke]

anyone heard about the vini incident?

[stray berry]

Same shit that happened to Balotteli is happening to Vini. Just sad to see

[rain stone]

nah never

[green obsidian]

and told him to shut up because it was supposed to be a red

[raw spoke]

disgraceful

[hallow hinge]

Look at this

[stray berry]

The more I watch European football, the more I hate the fact it has the most money

[rain stone]

aren’t they both brazilian why are they fighting

[stray berry]

I wish times were different, and that Brazilian players could stay in Brazil, instead of facing this ridiculous abuse

[green obsidian]

They both should be getting reds pretty simple

[rain stone]

i wish mls was the richest league there is no racism in mls

[stray berry]

La liga being corrupt and favoring racism? Who would've thunk

[green obsidian]

But you guys didnt show the same energy when vini WASNT being given warranted cards

[chrome slate]

ref was favouring the home team, and ignoring what rma players were saying

[stray berry]

You still didn't answer my question. Does he deserve the racism he faces?

[green obsidian]

You never asked that and no he doesnt

[chrome slate]

forget the fouls. see the racism and unfair treatment

[stray berry]

Because every time he plays Champions League matches, everything is different

[untold saffron]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[green obsidian]

Also i hope you know that RMA fans are probably the worst in the league

[stray berry]

Against City on both legs, no racism, no him hitting others or being cocky

[green obsidian]

They racially abused Alaba for voting messi

[stray berry]

He genuinely enjoyed himself and nobody got hurt

[green obsidian]

They abused ramos for saying messi is better than cr7

They abused benzema for years

[chrome slate]

that's your justification for racism?

shameless

[green obsidian]

boo’d cr7 a lot

[green obsidian]

I didn’t justify racism you idiot

He said the fights happen because he gets racially abused which isn’t true

The fights happen because of what i mentioned

[narrow cradle]

vinicius is a crybaby

[green obsidian]

Maybe you should try reading

[stray berry]

Oh, so it's ok to be racist with him.

This is bigger than Barca or Real buddy. The same shit happened to Neymar and made him leave. Same thing happened do Dani Alves and Fati... Just impressive how racist Spain is in general

[green obsidian]

Neymar left cuz he was in messis shadow

[chrome slate]

maybe you should stop the abusers instead of blaming a player who's just playing

[stray berry]

I don't know who's worse off. Spain or Italy

[green obsidian]

Start off with your club then

[narrow cradle]

being racist to vinicius is a good way to make him out of the match. he needs to be more profesional.

[green obsidian]

Hanging up posters of the holocaust every time you play atletico

Abusing your own players

[stray berry]

I honestly want Vini to leave Madrid for his own good. There must be another country he can play in without all this abuse

[chrome slate]

they will instead blame the victims than fix anything

[chrome slate]

delusional

[stray berry]

Lmao, la liga fans are so pathetic they think racism is ok

[green obsidian]

No im not

I already listed examples above

[narrow cradle]

i hate la liga

[stray berry]

And I hate football

[green obsidian]

When you try eliminating something you start with the biggest cause of it

Which is Real Madrid

[stray berry]

For letting this happen unpunished

[green obsidian]

Start off with them first

[narrow cradle]

but if you are aware of what people say on the stadium, you are not profesional.

[stray berry]

This isn't about clubs... It's about racism as whole

[green obsidian]

Hes very unprofessional but he definitely doesnt deserve racism

[stray berry]

And Spain being that shithole of a country where racism is always justified

[narrow cradle]

of course people want to make him mad.

[green obsidian]

Football is the biggest thing in Spain

and its mostly what causes a lot of the racism there

You stop the racism from the fans

[narrow cradle]

dude, no one is racist to camavigna or rudiger, just to vini because HE WILL 100% REACT LIKE A IDIOT

[green obsidian]

And it will be a lot better

[narrow cradle]

he is so stupid

[stray berry]

Maybe because Vini is the reason all these teams lose

Not Rudiger or Cama

[narrow cradle]

yes it is.

[green obsidian]

He did nothing today

[narrow cradle]

vinicius is a great player, but he is too aware of what people say about him

[stray berry]

He's much better than both of them, won everything, and is much more heated in the pitch. Obviously he will become a target

[chrome slate]

funny how some people call him an idiot when he is trying to defend himself

[stray berry]

This isn't up for discussion

[green obsidian]

I get the point hes trying to make

[narrow cradle]

you must be focused on the game, into the field. not hearing what people says.

[green obsidian]

Vini should be more professional

But he does not deserve the racism

[stray berry]

So? He won La Liga multiple times and a Champions League. Mind you, in that tournament, there is no racial abuse, so he literally didn't face any controversies there

[green obsidian]

Nobody does

[stray berry]

Vini should be more professional in another country

[green obsidian]

You said they provoke him because he makes them lose

[stray berry]

And just leave spain

This is an irreparable situation that will never, ever get fixed

[hallow hinge]

???

[narrow cradle]

Vini is the only good player la liga has at the moment

[green obsidian]

How do i explain it to you

[stray berry]

he should leave them

[green obsidian]

Everyone wants their team to win

[chrome slate]

ngl the treatment from some clubs and players need to be appreciated. there's no problem there, but only in spanish football

[green obsidian]

When you know someone is easily provoked

You will do it more often to increase your chances of winning

[stray berry]

He would be much better off just going to an Oil club like City or Newcastle

[green obsidian]

Giving them the reaction they want is not helping either

[stray berry]

At least here he wouldn't face this abuse

[stray berry]

Another reason why he should just leave

[chrome slate]

or just any top club outside spain.

[green obsidian]

BTW out of curiousity

has real madrid ever actually spoken out against racism

[chrome slate]

he doesn't deserve this racism just for playing football

[green obsidian]

wether its towards their fans or other fans

[stray berry]

I know what he's going through. I've faced a lot of racism myself

I know what he's feeling, and I know why he's angry

And it's also why I think he should leave

[chrome slate]

... our player is receiving racism for past many months and you think we are not against it?

[stray berry]

Nope. Another reason he should leave

[chrome slate]

💀

[green obsidian]

You never spoke out against your fans when they abused alaba

Ramos

Cr7

Benzema

[chrome slate]

that was not racism

[stray berry]

La Liga is a shithole is all I'll say

[green obsidian]

Alaba definitely was

[chrome slate]

that was a different thing

[green obsidian]

Racist chants

You are part of the problem

I hope you realise that

[stray berry]

And as a Brazilian, I want Vini to leave Madrid and go to a country where he can actually play football without being constantly harassed and hurt by a bunch of European crybabies

[green obsidian]

You are denying that your fans and your club are not doing anything to stop racism

[chrome slate]

you mean for that vote? oh yeah, but that wasn't during the game.
and I hope you realise that all clubs in spain have racist fans

that can't be stopped permanently, but can be restricted. what is annoying is that the federation is doing nothing for it

[green obsidian]

Are you fucking stupid

I said that multiple times

[stray berry]

All clubs in spain are inherently racist*

Fixed that for you

[green obsidian]

You start with the biggest problem

Which is the biggest fanbase in the country

AKA real madrid

[chrome slate]

biggest problem that is madrid

yeah

that's your bias talking

[green obsidian]

No it isnt

[stray berry]

Barca is literally just as big

[green obsidian]

You are the biggest fanbase

[green obsidian]

Not even close

[stray berry]

So this is biased from you

[green obsidian]

Their fanbase is massive

[stray berry]

Barca has about the same amount of fans as Madrid

If not more

[chrome slate]

barca has more
cuz of messi

[green obsidian]

We dont

[stray berry]

Messi alone carried Barca's popularity beyond what Ronaldo or anyone else could

[narrow cradle]

fact

[stray berry]

Messi is so big he literally tanked PSG's follower count after being banned

I'd even argue Messi is bigger than Barca itself

[green obsidian]

If were talking followers

cr7 has more

[chrome slate]

pretty much yeah. remember the "Messi made Barca" troll quotes?

[green obsidian]

and he got al nasser to however many followers theyre on now

[stray berry]

If we're talking anything. Messi is bigger than any club at this point. He's completed football. And his popularity seeps into Barca more than it does to Madrid

And that's just a fact

[chrome slate]

... getting offtopic now haha

[narrow cradle]

haha are you serious? are you measuring it with instragram followers? ronaldo fans are stupid af

[stray berry]

Well... He did. Barca was a much smaller team before Messi and his Pep team became the best for a whole decade.

Ronaldinho was starting to make them famous, but Messi changed everything

[green obsidian]

“If were talking followers”

[stray berry]

They had some good seasons with Rivaldo and Romário, but Messi was the one

[green obsidian]

Im starting to think you guys cant read

[chrome slate]

ronaldo too

[stray berry]

Yup

[narrow cradle]

you are the only one talking about followers

[green obsidian]

Great

Thanks for telling me you cannot read

[stray berry]

Overall, messi's popularity is more ubiquitous than Ronaldo. And Barca as of today is about the same in popularity when compared to Real

Real is the most successful club in spain, true, but barca isn't that far behind

[chrome slate]

ignore them.

[chrome slate]

in europe too

cmon

[green obsidian]

You realise more popular means more kids right?

Kids aren’t doing anything

[narrow cradle]

Barca is the face of spain, Madrid isn't even a spanish team

[digital arch]

https://twitter.com/MadridXtra/status/1660370107057557510?s=19

Madrid Xtra (@MadridXtra)

🚨 Vinicius: "The prize the racists have won is my expulsion. It's not football, it's La Liga."

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Twitter · May 21, 2023, 7:40 PM

[green obsidian]

Anyways this is unrelated to anything

[stray berry]

So true Vini!

Please leave spain

They don't want you there

[narrow cradle]

play more, cry less

[stray berry]

He could play more if every match was a CL match

It's night and day, the way he's treated

[green obsidian]

Dude hes right

Vini is way too unprofessional

The fans say this stuff to get him suspended

and it works

[stray berry]

And yet in CL he is completely professional

[green obsidian]

he gives them the reaction they want

[stray berry]

And no one complains about him, ever

Why is that?

[narrow cradle]

With al this kind of drama, racism will not stop. He has to avoid talking about this. This only strnghts racists

[green obsidian]

Exactly

[narrow cradle]

this.

[grave glen]

i feel bad for vini

[stray berry]

He has to leave

[green obsidian]

Hes proving to them that his reactions get worse and worse each time

[stray berry]

Spain will never fix it's inherent racism. They also don't deserve Vini playing there

[green obsidian]

The racism will only increase

[green obsidian]

Let me give you an example

[stray berry]

Vini should go to England, or any other country that actually respects him

[narrow cradle]

You want to win agianst madrid? Just scream monkey to vini.

[green obsidian]

You keep trying to break a tree with your hand

it doesnt work

[narrow cradle]

he will get anger and disconect from the match

[green obsidian]

Same thing with the racism

[stray berry]

So you leave, find another way to break the tree

[grave glen]

Yeah, i agree with that

[green obsidian]

If he doesnt react

[stray berry]

Simple

[green obsidian]

It doesnt happen

[stray berry]

I'm Brazilian too man

Vini is just suffering through something he shouldn't

He could easily just leave

[grave glen]

im also brazilian

[stray berry]

And leave that backwards country to it's own vices

[grave glen]

Yeah

[chrome slate]

He has to avoid talking about this

You know, you should try playing at his level and experience it before saying such things

[stray berry]

They want all-white teams? They'll get their all-white teams

[stray berry]

They probably never faced racism irl

[green obsidian]

How often do you see lukaku getting sent off

[narrow cradle]

@stray berry if you are from south america, you know the kind of things they scream to players.

[stray berry]

Because this "attitude" only works when nobody cares about you. It's not like you can just make racists stop targeting you

[foggy cape]

Doesn’t matter what happened

L ref

[green obsidian]

or completely losing his shit?

Barely right?

[foggy cape]

L var

L league

[green obsidian]

Because he doesnt react to the racism as heavily as vini

[foggy cape]

No excuses

How could the var miss that

[green obsidian]

He shushes the fans and goes on with his day

[stray berry]

Yes, mostly Argentina and especially Uruguay, as I've been racially abused in both countries

[ornate matrix]

We welcome vini to the prem in open arms

[stray berry]

As a black person, I can guarantee you, racism isn't something you can win by "ignoring" it

[ornate matrix]

Whenever he’s ready

[stray berry]

You can't win against it by being "classy" or "respectful" either

[green obsidian]

He doesnt fit into any teams

[ornate matrix]

Cook

[stray berry]

You simply can't win

[ornate matrix]

We’ll make him fit

[green obsidian]

Its working for lukaku

[chrome slate]

...that's not a right thing to say

[green obsidian]

Sorry to tell you this but Vini is literally giving the fans what they want

[stray berry]

It's only working because nobody cares about him anymore

He's not a "target"

[green obsidian]

He was getting boo’d by entire stadiums

[stray berry]

If he were, there'd be nothing he could do

[green obsidian]

And got a red for shushing the fans

[stray berry]

Being boo'd is ok

[green obsidian]

and racist chants

[stray berry]

Never got called a monkey, and if he does, EPL punishes those fans with bans

Unlike racist league

[green obsidian]

He still managed to score an equaliser in italian cup semi final

[stray berry]

Better known as La Liga

[foggy cape]

Lol read what I typed after that

[green obsidian]

Vini cant do anything in a league game

[bleak burrow]

rma best club in history 😂 🙏

[green obsidian]

Reading isnt his strong point

[chrome slate]

yeah but that can be taken out of context.

[foggy cape]

Yeah ik

[chrome slate]

[stray berry]

Which is another reason he should leave

[foggy cape]

[green obsidian]

Do you not understand?

[foggy cape]

Honestly it’s high time for the Spanish FA to do something

[chrome slate]

Carlo said he never heard a whole stadium scream monkey monkey monkey before

[green obsidian]

The english fans will do the exact same if they know vini reacts like this

[stray berry]

Imagine being such a great player, but you can only play matches without being harmed when playing against other countries... Almost like the problem is the country he's playing in

[foggy cape]

or else the clubs should protest

[stray berry]

But EPL has actual ways of prosecuting racism. And it doesn't happen as often

[green obsidian]

Real Madrid for starters doesnt and vini is their player

[foggy cape]

punish the clubs by forcing them to play in an empty stadium

[green obsidian]

LaLiga is already broke

[stray berry]

That won't fix anything when Spain and Europe as a whole is the problem

You want to fix this situation? Good luck

[foggy cape]

True but we should at least try

[stray berry]

You'd have to revert the general population's perspective of Black people in Europe

[green obsidian]

Making them play in an empty stadium harms the league itself

They would never do that

[foggy cape]

F the league

It’s so chaotic

[green obsidian]

So you expect the league to make a rule that harms it?

Makes sense

[stray berry]

Lmao. Have you ever been to Spain or Europe in general as a black person? Do you think these people will ever stop hating you for being who you are? You are dead wrong

[green obsidian]

Dude again

[foggy cape]

Ik it’s not ideal but that’s no excuse for racism

[stray berry]

Of course he reacts to it. He's a fucking human being with emotions

[green obsidian]

Lukaku doesnt react to it and he still scores equalizers in italian cup semi finals

[stray berry]

He's barely 22

[green obsidian]

Its a simple comparison

[stray berry]

Very young and immature

[foggy cape]

Ik we can’t force people to change themselves but at least we need to be able to protect the players

[green obsidian]

Almost a fully grown man

[stray berry]

Lukaku is almost hin his mid 30's

[green obsidian]

He should start acting like it

[stray berry]

Much more experience

And much more racism experience too

[stray berry]

Are you white?

[green obsidian]

No

[stray berry]

Are you black? Have you directly faced racism?

Because if not, you'd never understand what it feels like. Ever

[green obsidian]

Yes ive faced racism and i dont care

I take it as banter

[stray berry]

If you don't care, you haven't suffered enough

Is all I'll say

[green obsidian]

Try that maybe

[green obsidian]

No i just dont care 😂

Also it helps when you are bigger than them

[stray berry]

You haven't suffered enough ]

[green obsidian]

Because im bigger than them its obviously less frequent

But again

When im not a professional and i act like one

and vini is a professional and doesnt act like one

Whos to blame?

[stray berry]

You don't have to face even a fraction of the pressure he faces on a day to day basis

No one here has to

[brave chasm]

LaLiga needs to investigate the racism

javier Tebas is a clown

[stray berry]

They won't. Vini needs to leave Spain for good

[brave chasm]

it's so sad

[stray berry]

Because they won't change. Ever.

[green obsidian]

At this point im just repeating myself

[brave chasm]

there are LaLiga elections on the end of 2023

[green obsidian]

👍

[green obsidian]

He will resign before them so he can have a chance at being re elected

[grave glen]

true

[chrome slate]

Carlo: "We call out the racism and what happens? Absolutely nothing. The only solution is to stop the match. This cannot continue. He receives the most fouls and the most insults. I told the ref that I was going to take him off and the ref said that he must continue. After the red card the entire stadium were chanting "monkey monkey monkey." I am so sad. I've never experienced anything like this. He is a kid and he wants to continue but under these circumstances it is very difficult"

[brave chasm]

The team is full of losers too

nobody stands up for each other like pepe Ramos casemiro

if fede wants to be a captain, he's gonna have to change his mentality with his team

[stray berry]

Carlo gets it

[chrome slate]

you will find many such people here
unfortunate honestly

[brave chasm]

Lucas Vazquez is barely 5ft tall and is built like a twix bar, yet he always stands up for vini & the team

[green obsidian]

The club doesnt even stand up for their players

[brave chasm]

he's always there

Fede needs a leader mentality if he wants to he a captain

[chrome slate]

uhh he probably was away because he is already under investigation for that punch to that villarreal player. he doesn't want to get into more trouble

[brave chasm]

Even before that

[chrome slate]

copy pasta from twitter

[vital kernel]

https://twitter.com/idoxvi/status/1660356911345139712?t=lN0a7r0fdJz0rBKxtt4j7g&s=19

🫵🏽 (@idoxvi)

This guy is gonna be our future captain ahahhahaha

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Twitter · May 21, 2023, 6:48 PM

[brave chasm]

yes

Yeah

[brave chasm]

weak mentality

he should Ramos them

And I know fede can do that

[grave glen]

same

[chrome slate]

he is already facing a 15 match ban

fede just wanted to stay away from another ban

[brave chasm]

there has to be at least someone who can stand up for the team

[chrome slate]

idk why some twitter merchants take things out of context

I KNOW most don't even watch games

[brave chasm]

wdym

[rain stone]

valverde turned into prime bonucci when he saw vini being attacked

[ornate matrix]

Leao my goat

[wintry sapphire]

am i wrong when saying that jake gyllenhaal looks like eden hazard?

[fading ember]

https://twitter.com/umirf1/status/1660378542180376582?s=46&t=t_cWjbNZQ_S98aYkc6JzGg

Umir (@umirf1)

Vincius doesn't have to apologise for a single thing. Good guy, lovely player.

La Liga, a disgrace. The product is unserious.

The fans up and down the league, a disgrace.

The teammates (and opposition players) who have continually not defended Vinicius enough, disgrace.

Twitter · May 21, 2023, 8:14 PM

[chrome slate]

He should try being Vini's teammate while trying not to get a card. These statements are absurd for blaming the teammates and not talking about the racism

[narrow cradle]

i disagree. as i've been saying. the only thing vinicius can do is ignore this. racist are celebrating that vini is crying

[chrome slate]

[brave chasm]

he is young only 22

and he has to go through this

it is normal that he reacts

[narrow cradle]

yes but is unprofesional

[shell glade]

let's not judge someone's reaction like that alright

[brave chasm]

Would you be so professional in this situation? the players choke him, kick him, hurt him while the fans chant "monkey monkey"

It is a failure on the league side

[chrome slate]

they probably never had to face such things

[brave chasm]

and it's not so easy to maintain professionalism in this circumstance

easier said than done

[narrow cradle]

do you think vinicius is the only player to be chant like that?

he is the only one who react like this.

[shell glade]

no he is not

[grave glen]

yeah, when they did that to Vini, It made me rage

[shell glade]

which is a bloody crime and you should judge that, not the reaction

[narrow cradle]

it happens on every single match in the world.

[shell glade]

if you want to judge someone, go judge the league and people who allow this to happen

[narrow cradle]

here in argetnina they scream such worse things

[shell glade]

not someone who cries about being racially chanted againt

[shell glade]

cool, that doesn't mean that this is okay

now I suggest you stop

[narrow cradle]

stop what?

[shell glade]

for the second time

stop your insensitive fallacies

[chrome slate]

...

[stray berry]

I suggest you don't engage much. Most people here don't know what racism is like at all

[grave glen]

its funny he says Brazil thinks Spain is racist now when Brazil and latinamerica is infinitely times more racist towards black people in general

[stray berry]

They think all of this is justified

[shell glade]

@brave chasm no need to be an arse either

[stray berry]

Because vini "reacts"

[brave chasm]

ok

[stray berry]

To the abuse that is sent after him

[shell glade]

I suggest you move on

[brave chasm]

That is not the matter, if he played in Brazil hr wouldn't get the same treatment

[narrow cradle]

Yes, but we are talking about real madrid. So the people now seems to care about this... pathetic.

[stray berry]

What do you mean by that? I'm literally on your side

[shell glade]

meant the whole chat lol

[stray berry]

And trying to tell you these people won't listen

[shell glade]

because of what you said, most people here do not know what racism is

[stray berry]

Because they are idiots blinded by hatred and racism

[chrome slate]

who won't?

[brave chasm]

no

[stray berry]

All people in this chat except for you tbh

You're like one of the few who gets it

[brave chasm]

what the hell man

[stray berry]

Most people here are just blaming Vini

For something that is purely out of his control

[shell glade]

so, can we move on now rather than blaming vini

[chrome slate]

move on to what? just asking
can we continue to talk about this incident? cuz this is a serious matter

[stray berry]

I'm done talking to the racists, so have a good one!

[shell glade]

thanks mate, you too and take care

@brave chasm again, no need to be an arse about it

[brave chasm]

ok

[sage narwhal]

ain't no way in HELL people are blaming vinicius junior 😭

[shell glade]

they are 😭

[brave chasm]

I just said if i was Jude bellingham i would avoid this league

because of the conditions

[sage narwhal]

MASSIVE straw manning here

[shell glade]

I read that, I just don't agree with it and couldn't be arsed to reply to you

[brave chasm]

the racism

Massive straw manning here

[ornate matrix]

The premm is waiting

[brave chasm]

You don't watch the games you don't see the treatment that vini receives, it's horrid

[ornate matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-gif-21978827

[shell glade]

so? that doesn't mean it's not there

just move on mate

[chrome slate]

i mean he should consider it, because he should keep himself safe and he has every right
but he shouldn't let these racists stop him from playing football for a club he loves

[shell glade]

you don't even know where I live 😭 but sure thing mate

I don't think it's a cool flex to say that you live in Spain and you consider this racism to be normal, but might just be me

[ornate matrix]

He also loved Liverpool mate so not very special r u

[sage narwhal]

Are you joking?? Acting as if benzema hasn't been through hell and back for being arab and Villareal Winger Chukwueze also hasn't been racially abused

[chrome slate]

💀 that's what wrong with spain tbh

[shell glade]

I have noticed

[chrome slate]

we shall see

[chrome slate]

i mean, im sure players like zidane were victims of racism

[shell glade]

alright then let's agree on racism being fucking shite and just move on :))

[chrome slate]

you do know that this is a big incident and will be the talk for days to come?

[shell glade]

yup

[chrome slate]

unless you put an announcement, people will continue to talk about this incident

[sage narwhal]

No 💀 yes of course rival fans call him puta, that's how rivalry works
But I heard valencia fans calling him "mono" throughout the whole game. They weren't there to cheer for their own team they were there to insult him. Him getting called puta has noting to do with him or his reaction this game

[shell glade]

yup, but as people are going to keep talking shit about vini, I will keep telling them to move on. Most people are not capable of holding this discussion in a civil manner

¯_(ツ)_/¯

sorry did I say angry?

and wasn't talking about just you mate

[chrome slate]

😭 sad reality

[shell glade]

not civil does not equal angry mate

[chrome slate]

most don't care about that game right now

[zenith echo]

translation: Vinicius going to premier league

[mint tiger]

heard vini got racially abused again

isn’t that like the 5th time in a few months?

[zenith echo]

yes

i'm seeing him leaving Spain for the next season

[mint tiger]

don’t blame him because the league aren’t doing anything

[rain stone]

what premier league team would he go to

[iron marten]

Seems like both teams didn't give a single shit about the game lol, although we should've won @nova moon

[rain stone]

newcastle?

robinho 2.0

star player shockingly leaving madrid to go to recently bought oil club

[dapper dagger]

acting like other people don't get harassed

[rain stone]

i don’t see vini leaving tbh

he is the present and future of madrid

if vini wants to win a balon dor he should stay at madrid

[cunning hull]

Also no team in the big 6 need a LW

[rain stone]

newcastle

[cunning hull]

Maybe arsenal or Liverpool idk

[cunning hull]

Excluding Newcastle

[nova moon]

nuestra defensa fue de 10 y el ataque mediocre

empate justo

[rain stone]

vini and isak link up tho

would be brazy

[zenith echo]

i think he prefers his mental health

[rain stone]

golden shiny ball >>> mental health

[zenith echo]

idk
invite vini to the server to ask him what's his opinion

[umbral sky]

VARdid sit 3rd 🥱

[rain stone]

atletico are underrated

[iron marten]

Cierto, pero hay que decir que era bastante aburrido

[rain stone]

might do a career mode with them

[zenith echo]

cambié de canal y le puse al mundial sub 20

[dapper dagger]

you can't expect to play football at this level and not receive any hate, he needs to learn how to deal with it

[shell glade]

that's kind of victim blaming

[rain stone]

yeah

[dapper dagger]

i don't support racism

[shell glade]

because the racial hate he gets is insane

well you just said he needs to get used to it

[iron marten]

Understandable jaja

[dapper dagger]

i condemn it and think people who are caught doing it deserve a lifetime ban

[shell glade]

so kinda looks like you are no offence

[dapper dagger]

but you cannot get triggered by everything

[shell glade]

but this is not everything

and if this happens so many times then it's very understandable that this time he got that mad

because it's obvious the league does nothing about it

[dapper dagger]

i guarantee you messi has heard more and worse in his time in psg but look at him

[shell glade]

so?

[dapper dagger]

he's unphased

[shell glade]

not every person is the same

[dapper dagger]

he doesn't stop playing football

he doesn't react

he doesn't feed the haters

or the racists

[shell glade]

and just because it goes for one person does not mean everyone should do that

[zenith echo]

violence is never justified

[shell glade]

Vini does not feed them either

[dapper dagger]

he does

which is the reason they keep doing it

[shell glade]

that's victim blaming

[dapper dagger]

to him more than everyone else

[shell glade]

it's not the reason they keep doing it

[dapper dagger]

tell me the reason

[shell glade]

they keep doing it because he reacts like an actual human being and is obviously bothered by racism

[dapper dagger]

is he the only black player in laliga

[shell glade]

that's not feeding it

[shell glade]

no

[zenith echo]

if la liga doesn't do anything about it, then Vini has to do smth

[shell glade]

anyway I cba

goodnight

[zenith echo]

bye

[shell glade]

hope he leaves the league if they do nothing about racism

[dapper dagger]

he should learn to deal with it better, it is a terrible thing that should not happen, but he has to learn how to turn his back on these people

[zenith echo]

he has to do dani alves challenge

[dapper dagger]

the only way to minimize it

[zenith echo]

https://tenor.com/view/dani-alves-banana-gif-23808937

[dapper dagger]

that's a great way to handle it

don't feed these racists

[rain stone]

what can they even do about it

people will always be racist

[dapper dagger]

if they threw a banana to vini we wouldn't have heard the end of it

[rain stone]

it sucks but la liga can’t really do anything

[dapper dagger]

things can be done

lifetime bans to people who are caught doing it

[brave chasm]

there are many things that can be done

find and identify the racists & ban/fine them

simple

it is effective

[zenith echo]

fine the club 💀

[brave chasm]

??

[nova moon]

you are speaking like laliga is the only league with racist people

[grave glen]

Helo

[shell glade]

Okay I like that wording more

[grave glen]

Now goodbye

[iron marten]

Thanks to Valencia fans, LaLiga has a bad reputation now

[dapper dagger]

i tell you, if he does not react the way he does now, these attacks will deminish by time

[brave chasm]

what you're saying is true

they're saying it to get in his head

[iron marten]

Bro I just saw a Malaga fan wtf

[brave chasm]

he can't let that happen to him

but it's also easier said than done

[iron marten]

That's very rare

[nova moon]

I support malaga after betis

[iron marten]

Huh okay

[zenith echo]

a journalist asking Vinicius if he will apologize for his reaction

dumb questions

[brave chasm]

they're looking for reactions

[dapper dagger]

as per

[iron marten]

Jesus

What a dumb question

Vinicius is probably mentally defeated

What the hell are they doing

[grave glen]

Congrats on turning the season around

[iron marten]

Ohh thank you

But it's not over yet

There's a very important match ahead of us

[grave glen]

Roma will be hard

[zenith echo]

yeah now i see Spain as a country full of racists

[grave glen]

Mourinho is so good at winning finals

[iron marten]

Definitely, Mourinho is very experienced, but so are Sevilla in the Europa League

[zenith echo]

the special one

[grave glen]

The Sevilla League

[iron marten]

If we do win, it'd be the perfect outcome and we'll qualify for the UCL again, despite us finishing outside top 4

[zenith echo]

ADN Sevilla vs The Special One

[grave glen]

yeah

En Nesiry headerclass

[iron marten]

We'll just see what happens

[iron marten]

Yeah quite sad

[wraith breach]

Tebas replied to vini 😳

https://twitter.com/Tebasjavier/status/1660393419963809793?t=nmou9o2RJ8kFv956JkgtpQ&s=19

Javier Tebas Medrano (@Tebasjavier)

Ya que los que deberían no te explican qué es y qué puede hacer @LaLiga en los casos de racismo, hemos intentado explicártelo nosotros, pero no te has presentado a ninguna de las dos fechas acordadas que tú mismo solicitaste. Antes de criticar e injuriar a @LaLiga, es necesario…

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Twitter · May 21, 2023, 9:13 PM

[brave chasm]

Tebas is a fraud

Vinicius Jr started crying after being shouted "Vinícius, die."

[hasty hearth]

https://twitter.com/themadridzone/status/1660398314133639169?s=12&t=HEVgELxkozCJYexaRIdS2w what a clown lol.

Madrid Zone (@theMadridZone)

🗣️ Javier Solís, Valencia’s spokesman: “What Vinicius Jr. did was pathetic. You can’t gesture relegation to the whole stadium.”

Twitter · May 21, 2023, 9:33 PM

[iron marten]

No way that's real

What the hell is wrong with them

[brave chasm]

Tebas blamed vini

Tebass is a disgusting piece of trash

[grave glen]

What does it say

[hasty hearth]

tbh

[brave chasm]

the image above is the translation

[grave glen]

Ah I see

Typical Tebas

[ornate matrix]

https://twitter.com/madridxtra/status/1660398977622081536?s=46&t=QgMqWhqqTYVCe30FWLQf0g welcome to the prem

Madrid Xtra (@MadridXtra)

🚨💣 BREAKING: Viní Jr’s entourage have put the option of leaving Real Madrid on the table. “The player is on the edge” is what has been said. @ESPNBrasil

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Twitter · May 21, 2023, 9:35 PM

[median marsh]

Fix the league

[nova moon]

para eso exageran todos con lo del racismo

no son listos ni na estos fanboys de la premier

[sage narwhal]

reading valencia's official statement

they feel more annoyed about how ancelotti called out the racist fans that the racism itself 💀

[foggy kindle]

why tf did the goalie come and attack vinicius

what was he so worked up about

[iron marten]

Idk probably because he didn't leave the pitch for a good 5 minutes

But still

Rudiger almost broke his neck lol

That goalie is dumb

[grave glen]

why didn’t he shown up

[small basalt]

come to the premier league, we have no racism here

[grave glen]

is dude serious

[ornate matrix]

Won’t recieve even anywhere near the racism and it’s actually condemned here we don’t have spokespeople defending it or putting blame on the player

So we will welcome him with open arms

[scarlet dove]

Unbanned 🙏🏼

“I will be there no matter what”

[scarlet dove]

I don’t agree with this logic

Players receive just as much racism in other countries

The difference is Vini speaks more about it

[stone drum]

The guy who out Vini in a chokehold got nothing but Vini got a red for pushing the gk who pushed and grabbed him ok la liga totally not discriminating Vini

[scarlet dove]

The guy who put him in a chokehold received a yellow

Not fair either way but still

[stone drum]

Wow a yellow a little slap on the wrist

[scarlet dove]

I’m considering maybe the red was to protect him

Get him off the pitch

It doesn’t make sense any other way

[stone drum]

Only way it be logical

That he got a red

But still la liga is slowly falling apart

Btw Valencia would be more mad their owner is basically bankrupting their club

[scarlet dove]

Same thing happened whit my club

We play in second division

We were in the third division for a while

[stone drum]

They shouldn’t be racist when they about to be bankrupt and relegated

Got to pay for more trips to Dubai for the owners daughter

[small basalt]

show a link reporting a racist chant in PL in the past 3 months

[stone drum]

Hey at least y’all got promoter

[small basalt]

lol?????

[stone drum]

Tbh tho he was getting attacked by the players

And fans was about to just burst

[scarlet dove]

Its the most logical idea

Not that it is logical

[small basalt]

the referee sent him off because he had to, it was an agression, he cannot ''oh he was being racially abused, so i canoot red card him''

but i think he should sent off that valencia player too, the one that was choking him

[stone drum]

He was being aggressive bc the players was

Why did the gk go up and grab him threateningly

?

That was uncalled for

[small basalt]

but he was the only one that hit the other in the face

this is red card without thikinig

point and blank

[stone drum]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRED3E4S/

See

[small basalt]

its not about fairness, its about the action

[stone drum]

I hate that espn being more fair to Vini then la liga

[scarlet dove]

Factous also

[stone drum]

But no Valencia should be fined heavy

Bc they started 99% of it after the fans started it

Like you don’t run over to someone who clearly mad and grab them and expect not to get hit

They did fucked around and found out

[tulip glade]

tebas got cooked 😭

beautiful to see

[scarlet dove]

If what he’s saying is true about Vini not showing for the requested court dates that is also very bad from him

[grave glen]

yea like he said there’s a problem

but he won’t take any real action

other than complaining

[brave chasm]

Valencia getting relegated soon, I will be there no matter what

[grave glen]

if it’s racism it doesn’t involve just him so he should be the front runner to help

not to blame on vini solely but just in terms of what he can do on his behalf

laliga of course has to do the bigger part of this supposed issue

[brave chasm]

LaLiga should be the ones taking action

It shouldn't be so bad that a player has to take action

that's just absurd

Issues like this will always be the responsibility of the clubs and the league, never the players

[grave glen]

I just said that

[frigid hamlet]

He says "its not football it's la liga" that is shitting on our country and not la liga... because la liga wants to solve the issue and the two racists got arrested today... he's not shitting on the league its 100% the country

[scarlet dove]

Lo de “este país era de Ronaldinho Ronaldo y Messi y ahora es de racistas” me parece una barbaridad

[frigid hamlet]

Ofcourse a Madrid fan says this and doesn't even look at the table of the league all he thinks about is the ucl kos... we are comfortably safe in 13th FYI

[brave chasm]

yea just wait till next szn

[scarlet dove]

No it’s not funny

[brave chasm]

just salty that your finished club will never get to see a ucl knockout ever again

[scarlet dove]

What club do you support @brave chasm

[brave chasm]

madrid

[scarlet dove]

How are you shitting on Valencia man

It’s a respectable club

[brave chasm]

I didn't want them to get relegated before

cause of all their history and they were good

But now i don't really care

nothing can save that club anyway

[scarlet dove]

Because of their ultras? Madrid ultras are neonazis doesn’t mean it’s a bad club

[limber viper]

Hello

[scarlet dove]

Bad fans ≠ bad club

[brave chasm]

ok

[limber viper]

Madrid is loser

[scarlet dove]

How many champions for Barcelona my friend

[brave chasm]

most irrelevant comment here

[limber viper]

Cristiano ronaldo king of madrid

[scarlet dove]

Casillas is a bigger legend imo

[limber viper]

without cristiano ronaldo madrid is not so good but if they get mbappe

[scarlet dove]

You’re about 5 years late to this one mate

5 years and 2 champions league wins

[grave glen]

At min 20, the entirety of Valencia's stadium were calling Vini racial names. In a footballing sense, Valencia deserved the victory cuz real madrid was snoozing. In terms of fans tho, they're trash

[limber viper]

with cristiano ronaldo could have won city

[frigid hamlet]

No apruebo el racismo, pero está en todos los países. Las personas que difunden esta información errónea, por supuesto, son madridistas, no de España.

[limber viper]

Sorry for the delay I don't speak fluent English

[scarlet dove]

Pues esto mismo digo yo

Un argumento que veo mucho es que en otros países no es igual

Joder si los ultras franceses e italianos le hubiesen matado ya

[frigid hamlet]

I've been to the Santiago Bernabeu more times than you 100% plus we'll still be in the league

[limber viper]

Ronaldinho eres un de los melhores de el historia

[frigid hamlet]

How Im the salty one here😂😂 . I've never been happier my friend after today

[scarlet dove]

Umtiti tuvo que abandonar un partido por ello hace poco

[frigid hamlet]

You're shitting on us now because a section of our supporters were racist??

[frigid hamlet]

Please educate him this is not a valencian problem but rather a spanish problem

[scarlet dove]

No hay forma

Son ciegos

España no se puede contar, hay que vivirlo

[brave chasm]

I live in Madrid fool

[scarlet dove]

Pues conversemos en español

[frigid hamlet]

What I always wonder is why its always him?? I don't advocate racism but there are other black players even for Valencia but it's always him... I feel he's too provocative and Carlo needs to tell him to stop because the fans will always be idiots and respond back.

[scarlet dove]

^

Es el trabajo del entrenador decirle que se equivoca

Obviamente no tiene nadie que le aconseja

[brave chasm]

It's so easy to say this

not so easy to hide it when the players try to kill you every game & the fans call you a monkey

[frigid hamlet]

Exactamente es tan estúpido

[brave chasm]

imagine getting booked for defending yourself from a chokehold

[limber viper]

Espanõl es mui parecido con el português

[scarlet dove]

He was booked correctly

[brave chasm]

yea i went to Portugal and spoke Spanish and they understood

[scarlet dove]

He punched another player in the face

The Valencia players were not

[limber viper]

Ayuda bastante

[brave chasm]

other player should've got booked

[scarlet dove]

Yep

[brave chasm]

as well

[scarlet dove]

Agreed

[limber viper]

I am brazilian

From*

[brave chasm]

Brazilian Portuguese accent is different from Portuguese one i think

[scarlet dove]

Tá fixe 😎

[limber viper]

Yes es mucho parecido con el espanõl

[brave chasm]

yes

[limber viper]

Lol

[brave chasm]

to me it doesn't seem like LaLiga is putting a lot of effort into solving this problem

does it?

I haven't been seeing any action being taken

it's always "we're investigating"

and then nothing

[scarlet dove]

Vinicius did not go to the court for the discussions about it on the dates he agreed 🤷‍♂️

[limber viper]

En el brazil todas los ninos quiren ser un jogador de futebol

[frigid hamlet]

You don't realize that your fans are also racists too? Seems suspicious...blaming Valencia supporters like it's the only fanbase that has racists

[scarlet dove]

There’s nothing they can do whit no effort from the player

[brave chasm]

Because it should not be the players responsibility to fix something like this

[scarlet dove]

If he wants to have a conversation he needs to go have the conversation

[brave chasm]

I didn't say that, but ok, you take my words however you want

[stone drum]

Fr

[frigid hamlet]

@fridge

[brave chasm]

I am not denying Madrid had racist fans or there is racism around the world

i know that there is

[brave chasm]

@frigid hamlet

[limber viper]

Madrid eres un clube mucho bueno mas los fans destroen con sua reputacão

[brave chasm]

League should fix it without any players having to take action

[frigid hamlet]

You want us to go down now and dislike us now more for what happened to vini?? Those are your words...blame spain not Valencia

[scarlet dove]

@brave chasm

[brave chasm]

if it has to come to players taking legal action, the league has failed in its job to protect the players

[frigid hamlet]

Infact unfortunately Racism is everywhere

[scarlet dove]

You cannot take legal action if the player who desires legal action does not come

[stone drum]

La liga needs a better system