#Santaclautchi secrets ! let's find how it work

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stiff parrot
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or 2 octaves?

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so you have to do that weird crossing-over technique in the middle where you go up an octave instead of going down below the lowest possible note

wispy breach
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When I first unmuted mine, I complained here and teethy was like "you grow to love it"
And I was skeptical, but its kinda true. I think its stockholm syndrome

stiff parrot
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i have to use a similar technique when i'm making town tunes on animal crossing

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lol i had mine muted except for when i was listening to kuchi calls

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when i was playing the game etc i had it off

wispy breach
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I think its cause Joy To The World should have some flats/sharps? But maybe the Santa can't portray those

stiff parrot
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that could also be contributing to it

wispy breach
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Oh yeah its probably missing a sharp, which is why that one note is So Flat

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I did music lessons as a kid, but now most of my music knowledge comes from making mario maker music levels lol. You can't have flats/sharps in those

stiff parrot
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the lack of sharps/flats is another thing i have to deal with when making animal crossing town tunes lol

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sometimes you can transpose to a key where the melody has no sharps or flats

wispy breach
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Same with mario maker, but then you still have the octave/tempo issues. It's kinda fun working within the limitations though

stiff parrot
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lol yea i didn't learn anything about music theory as a kid even though i played an instrument (trumpet) from elementary thru high school

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it is kind of fun but you wish it were just a bit less limited

wispy breach
stiff parrot
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it does frustrate me tho bc in animal crossing the pixel art tool is pretty powerful and now it can do whole outfits

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but the town tune hasn't changed at all since the first game 😂

wispy breach
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I love just creating a random lil jingle for my town!

stiff parrot
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i always just transpose an existing melody

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my fave one i did was the 1st ending theme from sailor moon

wispy breach
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Our complaints about sound restraints are probably what the creators of the santa were thinking ahha

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Im sure they did their best

stiff parrot
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yea it's clear there's a good reason why it is the way it is

wispy breach
dense forum
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Wow, this is so much better than being obsessively on top of him!! heheh, but seriously the research and work through experimenting you guys did is no less than extraordinary!! 🥳🥳🙏🎅🎄💖

stiff parrot
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it was teallen not me who came up with the super kuchi theory and did most of the research SuperKuchipatchi (actually it could have been Fye or RJ or somebody else active here, just literally anybody other than me)

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i thought it was random lol

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but i mean that makes the most sense since super kuchi is probably like a hidden discipline meter

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(sulking santa is kind of like the tama being attacked like in umino/morino except he always leaves if you don't address it -- supposedly)

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wispy breach
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Trickster finally decided to sulk!

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wispy breach
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100% complete trickster!

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plush jasper
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Niice

wispy breach
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Wait I forgot item use!

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Also in the video I took of him using the item, I sneezed right as he used it 🥲 gonna have to get another one

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False alarm, I had an old video of it!

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He doesn't really have an item use animation. Weird!

wispy breach
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Final final Missy (for real this time)

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safe glade
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Sulking hat Santa this morning! Also, happy new year friends! Hope everyone has an amazing 2023

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Also, cute! Got a little Angel this time “fixing” the tree?

wispy breach
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Ty! Happy new year too!
The angel is one of the daily animations. Mine have been the same every time I've run it, but some people have reported different animations different days? Idk

iron pasture
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Is a devil knocking over the tree on day 4 bad?

stiff parrot
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i don't think it means anything

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in any case im pretty sure i had the devil even after i'd gotten to tier 3

iron pasture
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Thanks! Yeah, I’ve got three bells, just waiting to get a reindeer egg…

pulsar ledge
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Just wanted to thank everyone involved in figuring the Santaclautchi's secrets! I'm currently updating the wiki page and character list page with your findings so it can help out others

plush jasper
gilded echo
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Yeah seriously, I'd also like to give a huge thanks to everyone that decided to create this project thread and brute force through the experimenting to get the knowledge we now have.

I think this is pretty amazing and demonstrates well that more threads like this can probably solve most (if not all) the remaining Tama mysteries (like Mothra twins or Music Star Tamatown items).

wispy breach
wispy breach
# pulsar ledge Just wanted to thank everyone involved in figuring the Santaclautchi's secrets! ...

One thing about the wiki- it says "if the user is too late to prepare Santaclautchi, it will show Oyajitchi knocking the tree over"
Is there a source for this? That's not whats happened on mine. Typically, Oyajitchi is knocking the tree over on day 5. My tamagotchi monitor has always been the same, both on runs where I've prepared santa in time and in runs where I haven't. I know teethy said that they got different stuff on their monitor, but im not sure exactly what

plush jasper
wispy breach
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Yeah mine has always been
1 - baby with wreath
2 - child reaching for top of tree
3 - child on stepstool
4 - mimitchi, undecorated tree
5 - deviltchi knocking over tree
6 - crying next to tree
7 - angel reviving tree
8 - ginjirotchi, decorated tree
9 - mametchu talking to tree
Presents delivered - mametchi with presents

stiff parrot
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was that oyajitchi or Masukutchi?

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(knocking over the tree)

wispy breach
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Omg wait you're right, it's not oyajitchi

stiff parrot
wispy breach
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This guy

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Oh weird?

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So it's from the manual?

stiff parrot
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Indeed

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and i don't remember ever seeing that one

wispy breach
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Neither, even when I didnt get any tier 3 evos

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My santa still delivered presents when I didnt get any which I thought was weird

stiff parrot
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the manual does say something like 'make sure to deliver the presents before the tamagotchi gets sick of waiting and becomes oyajitchi!!'

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(and that is the caption on the screenshot: 'slow!!')

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i reset before getting a full distance meter when i didn't get any tier 3 evos

wispy breach
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I got a full distance meter when I'd only got to tier 2, and santa till delivered presents. The animation was a bit different though

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Maybe it's if you're in tier 1

stiff parrot
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the manual is kind of vague and just says that you've reached your goal once the distance meter fills. all it says about Santa-ness is that if you fill it "something good might happen"

wispy breach
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It must happen before the distance meter is filled though, because both sprites shown in the manual are from before the meter is filled

stiff parrot
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so it doesn't explicitly say you MUST fill it

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yeah that's interesting

wispy breach
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Maybe day 9 is significant? Cause that's the day with the talking tree

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And then it stays like that until distance meter is full

stiff parrot
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it says that Oyajitchi appears after about 2 weeks (presumably if you haven't filled the distance meter), and that the goal of the game is to fill the distance meter before oyajitchi appears

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it also says that while santa is sulking the distance meter doesn't go up

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so the game tracks separately both how long santa has been running as well as how far he's walked

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oh yea it also does say that if you fill the distance meter and santa-ness is full it will show you a different scene i think

wispy breach
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The distance meter is 14 bars, so 1 bar a day for 2 weeks. But I did notice it go up faster once I was in a higher tier
How do you get to 2 weeks without filling the bar?

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I thought it went up once a day by default

stiff parrot
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didn't somebody in here say that santa sulked for like 2 days before leaving

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so it's definitely conceivable that if you REALLY ignore the crap out of him and let him sulk for a long time it might happen

wispy breach
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Oh true, you’d have to forget about it for a few days. But mine left after like half a day without checking on him!

stiff parrot
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that's still a pretty long time though lol

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and if he's overweight => theoretically sulking more, that would add up

wispy breach
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Still so many mysteries MameStareH

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We know how to win the Santa but not how to fail

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Figures that the group of people obsessively checking their santas for a month wouldn’t be able to figure that out

stiff parrot
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lol yeah exactly, he's so low maintenance overall that it seems like a pretty low bar to get the distance meter filled

wispy breach
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I thought you failed if you didn’t fill the Santa meter, but I guess that’s just a fun bonus

stiff parrot
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you have to mistreat him a lot, but not enough for him to leave, to lose the game

wispy breach
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Why is it harder to lose than win MameChibi

stiff parrot
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i mean tamas seem to lock a lot of content behind weird 'fail but not too hard' paths so this is just par for the course ig lol

wispy breach
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Very true

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I just paused my Santa. Now I feel like I gotta restart and try to fail ahah

stiff parrot
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i paused after he delivered presents 💀

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(actually it was She delivering presents bc i kept her as missy lol)

wispy breach
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I kept mine going so I could get the secret character sprites, cause it takes a week to get the secret characters and I don’t wanna do it again

stiff parrot
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Wouldnt it be nice if we could just dump the sprites MameChibi

wispy breach
stiff parrot
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i think i figured out who dumped the P1 ROM, i should contact them to see how they did it lol

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Tell me your secrets

wispy breach
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Omg nice. That would be huge ahah

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Lunch break just ended so I’ve gotta actually do my job, but I’ll hopefully finish my guide soon, and I’ll add this info to it

stiff parrot
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Sounds good!!

wispy breach
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Is the manual scanned and uploaded anywhere?

stiff parrot
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tamatalk used to have scans of all the manuals but the links are all dead lol

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not archived either

pulsar ledge
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Do you plan on posting the Santaclautchi guide anywhere? It's pretty in depth and useful!

wispy breach
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wispy breach
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Ohh I wonder if pausing can also affect the distance meter? No way to change the date after its set, so you'll end up days behind if you pause

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I think I need to run my santa again and try to get the bad end MimiRead

pulsar ledge
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Maybe on TamaTalk? I could also link to the guide on the santaclautchi's wiki page when it's finished if you want.

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One of the things I gotta do is start adding links to guides on Tamagotchi pages so newcomers can easily find them when needed

wispy breach
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Those both sound like good ideas! I never made a tamatalk account, I guess I'll start there

safe glade
wispy breach
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Final (?) guide!

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It’s a new link. I’ve taken away access from the old link to avoid confusion

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If anyone has any notes, lemme know! If not, I’ll copy it into tamatalk as well

safe glade
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Wooo completed all Santa-ness!

wispy breach
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Congrats!!!

safe glade
wispy breach
plush jasper
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yes, thank you for putting together all the info we collected :3

iron pasture
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That guide is amazing!

wispy breach
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Thanks both! I'll work on getting it posted to tamatalk so there's more of a backup

wispy breach
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memetchi_crii
Tamatalk is saying its over 10000 characters but it's only 9484

gilded echo
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It looks so professionally done 😂 ThumbsWAYup

safe pendant
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omg yall SO GOOD with this

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i just finished my thesis rehearsal yesterday so i'll finally have some time to update the sprite sheet with teallen's good work a;sdfhasdfasdfasdfasd

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yall amazing

safe glade
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So that I could take video of him eating

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This is Santa 🙂

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With the hat and attire

stiff parrot
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poor abused santa UmaruCrybaby

safe glade
wispy breach
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I've been trying to post my guide to tamatalk but their character limit is BRUTAL 😭
It was 11,000. I got it down to 9,029 and its still saying its over their 10,000 limit 💔

safe glade
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Do we need any animations from evil Santa?

plush jasper
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i think sulking is missing, but the rest is good

wispy breach
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I actually have all the secret characters animations now! Even sulking

plush jasper
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niiice

safe glade
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Perfect! Please let me know if there is anything missing!

wispy breach
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Tamatalk managed to solve my character limit issue, and so I've been able to submit my guide! It's just waiting approval.
I'm also trying to figure out exactly which other sprites we need to capture, but I think I need to work through my drawing backlog a bit before then. Currently I just have a lot of videos saved onto my phone

wispy breach
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Here's the link ^

plush jasper
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just quick message, I've emailed Fuzzy n chic, and they updated the santaclautch guide with the one you wrote @wispy breach ^^

the word of the true santaclautch guide is spreading !

wispy breach
ripe kernel
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Well-

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Now I need one

raw vigil
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omg

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oh

urban thicket
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ayy

urban thicket
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makes more sense to post it here instead - i mentioned in #1286141320863158272 that rolling the clock forward when he goes to sleep so he wakes up in the AM will mess up the advent calendar. i was going to reset it because I want the days to sync up for christmas eve event. however, I let him sleep until 3AM and then rolled it forward and the day did move forward.

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i will try it out to see if its a minimum number of hours he must sleep undisturbed or if it's some sort of accumulated counter

urban thicket
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i noticed if i roll the clock the 11 hours forward to wake him up immediately after sleep he will always be sulking as soon as he wakes up and requires a letter just fyi

urban thicket
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ok i let him sleep until 12am and it rolls the days forward now

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wonder if you pause at sleep, set to 1159, let it roll over then move it to 759am and you'll be good with the calendar. Will try it tomorrow

urban thicket
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confirmed this

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there is a flaw to doing this method. it appears every time you do then the internal meter drops by at least -1 (i.e. it acts like you missed a kuchipatchi call)

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im guessing the counter resets at midnight and since you did not respond to any calls that day its doing a -1

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the tv was showing the characters being upset then finally showed oyaj... but now its showing an angel fixing the tree so...

stiff parrot
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iirc the scene with the tree is not influenced by care, and the only way you can tell what the "meter" is is by the tier of santa you have

dusk basalt
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I went from snowboard santa on day 1 to penguin santa today on day 2. I think thats good. He looks cuter anyway 😅

urban thicket
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it showed me oyajitchi on the 3rd day when i rolled the clock forward, but now it shows the angel and i had no additional calls so idk

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did anyone log how often the event is supposed to fire off for the super kuchipatchi?

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also you seem to be right as ive only had like one call this whole time and just confirmed that i am still tier 2

slender dagger
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Yeah, I'm stuck on tier 2 and I haven't gotten a super kuchipatchi call in two days

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It's frustrating me so much that I'm tempted to just reset lmao, not sure if it's because I keep pausing

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Because on my days off I will leave it unpaused for the entire day with the sound on and it will just not call

urban thicket
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i never thought much about it but i think the calls get more frequent after hes walked more

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i mean give it until the end of the week if youre still on tier 2 id just reset it

urban thicket
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just got a kuchipatchi call

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lets see if im "tier 3" now

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i am

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just gotta wait a few more days for the reindeer icon and should have all 4

dusk basalt
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I have not had any calls today yet which is odd seems to have no set patten

slender dagger
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I put it on pause before I left for work at 5am, I just got home and set the clock forward to the actual time and it made him sulk

urban thicket
stiff parrot
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that's so santa

dusk basalt
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I havent got image perms but my santa is now riding around on a sleigh!

urban thicket
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got another super kuchipatchi call

dusk basalt
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Woah. Im going to put it on mute and grind the game this evening then!

urban thicket
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i started it on black friday and maybe moved the clock forward 2 or 3 days otherwise been playing it normally

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when i grind it i just run it for a couple of minutes just smashing the b button, i do leave the sound on though because youll know when you get an item it does stop and play the song

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otherwise it just skips the whole animations and he keeps going down the chimney (mostly)

slender dagger
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Okay yeah I'm resetting

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This run is going nowhere

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Idk what happened

urban thicket
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gl

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i have also noticed if youve been grinding for about 2-3 minutes and you havent gotten an item you probably never will but if you come back an hour later or whatever you tend to get one. unsure what determines this.

dusk basalt
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I got 2 balls of yarn 😅 i already had yarn so no luck but ill keep trying

urban thicket
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erm, so grinded the game for another few minutes today and already got a potion. so distance meter does not matter.

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slender dagger
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Nice

urban thicket
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just grinded again and got the potion for missy santatachi

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so basically everything is complete except the distance meter

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just smash that b button for 5 minutes while you do other things lol

slender dagger
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I did end up getting a super kuchipatchi call a few hours after I reset, so thank goodness

urban thicket
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i wish the mods would add the santa tama icons i modmail'ed them and they said they would look into it

slender dagger
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I'm a mod, I can look into it once I'm on my computer

urban thicket
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maybe just make a public server you guys can join if you want the emojis and you have nitro. i just have my own private server with me in it that is basically a notepad dump and custom emojis

slender dagger
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I'm on my phone right now, it's a bit too difficult on mobile

urban thicket
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oh nice

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okay

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yeah i have a few, including some from n64 tama site

stiff parrot
urban thicket
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I sent them over to RJ so hopefully they get added soon MimiPray

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PS: totally running tamao again after the holidays

slender dagger
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Weird

dusk basalt
urban thicket
slender dagger
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The tamaotch is probably my least favourite vintage but I'm planning to give it another chance soon

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Maybe for a new years run

urban thicket
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🥀

stiff parrot
slender dagger
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No, that's why I'm willing to give it another chance

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I fully admit I didn't like it because I didn't understand it lol

urban thicket
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tamaotch in my top now for sure

urban thicket
cyan pine
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whats a good day to start the santa to unlock the christmas animation on christmas eve?

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i dont remember how long raising him typically takes

urban thicket
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2 weeks

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so like start it today

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i do believe if you start it a week before christmas though it DOES move the meter faster, but dont quote me on this

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i recall that it did but that was years ago

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also just update with me. still v-petting every day. i had my first call for super kuchipatchi in DAYS, but all bells are maxed anyways.

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distance meter is almost full, about 85-90%

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simultaneously running devilgotchi, but will turn that off after it dies. paradise on the same character all week as i havent been motivated to devote time to the baby stage for a new character. uni going well, have not married it off yet. i like to let the little one pick who they marry so we'll do that this weekend. started up a punirune for fun when i got bored of being online all day. very low maintenance.

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the minigames on the punirunes are quite fun and a nice break from everything else.

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it has a couple of small annoyances, but none of it really detracts. confirming food choices always defaults to NO so you have to select A then B then you have to push the food to it. so you cannot just keep smashing B to give it food to fill the meter. when they evolve all the meters reset so you will spend about 20 minutes feeding and petting it to max the meters out. the room gets dirty quite a bit ive noticed. you can also only wear one accesory at a time.

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these are so nitpicky though, its actually a pretty good device for someone who wants one to just sit on a desk and goof with randomly

cyan pine
urban thicket
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im already maxed out

urban thicket
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first time in a while i had a letter i had to respond to when he woke up

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i also had a call yesterday, but missed it as i was in the middle of putting up a real christmas tree 😂

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he has one "tick" left on the distance meter

urban thicket
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kuchipatchi call, despite all 4 bells and distance meter full

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just fyi

urban thicket
urban thicket
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i got another kuchipatchi call and for kicks i tried another item again and ive dropped down to tier 2 so i must have missed a call at some point

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everything is maxed though so im not concerned about it

urban thicket
stiff parrot
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cyan pine
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i didnt even get to play mine this year 🥲

urban thicket
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I think im gonna pull the batteries outta mine tomorrow then run the morino until adult then finally tamaotch for january

stiff parrot
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oh that santa emote is sick lol

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do you have a single server where you store all these tama emotes because i'd love to have access to them

urban thicket
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yes but its my personal dumping notebook server. let me fix permissions on it and i can invite you

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i did ask @slender dagger about adding them but have no heard back

cyan pine
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maybe we should hop back in the gen vintage forum