Total embarassment (Titan main)

[coral talon]

So guys I just made a fool of myself using Hunter on CN and Lucky pants malf swap but I just can't survive on warlords final boss in lfg. Fellow Hunters, pls give me some advice

Just recently switched to Hunter

[hollow drift]

Switch back. Hunter sucks.

[manic flax]

this is good advice

[hollow drift]

I always have good advice.

[manic flax]

can i ask you for advice on a question then?

[hollow drift]

Sure

[manic flax]

how can i get a girlfriend

[hollow drift]

Can you ask a different question?

[manic flax]

[hollow drift]

Its a joke, 2 things: be yourself and quit destiny 2

[hardy kelp]

I run lucky pants malf forbearance and a good rocket

[hollow drift]

I havent quite gotten past the second one but the first one should be easy

[hardy kelp]

just hide behind the wall and do rocket energy, malfeasance spam

[hollow drift]

Yeah, this’ll help a lot for survival

[hardy kelp]

^^^ my most recent message really the only way to survive

[hollow drift]

Real talk tho. concussive. Put on some healing nades.

[hardy kelp]

yea thats a good idea

[sonic surge]

Hunter back to irrelevant when they take away kinetic surges lol

[hardy kelp]

i js run arc and hide but what helps alot is arc siphon and better alerady constant healing

[manic flax]

try healing nade with empyrean and torches

[oblique quarry]

hunter is unironically worst class in game

just use titan or warlock

[sick jolt]

Hunter is the glass cannon of the 3 classes

[hollow drift]

Except the cannon also shoots glass

[soft bough]

💀💀💀

[oblique quarry]

the smartest d2 player

[coarse lava]

not true

depends on the content but hunter is usually more useful then titan

[carmine bear]

Ain’t no way bro just said that

[coarse lava]

i mean yeah

in raids they have significantly better mobility and damage

same with dungeons

in gms they have multiple build options that dont force them to be in melee range and stack a buff

all titans really have over other classes is sustain in non gm content

but thats not really most players issue

[sick jolt]

Warlocks have the best mobility assuming you have well. You cant go wrong with well of rad or broodwever for DPS.

Hunters have the highest one and done super ( GG with celestial). They have good mobility, but not enough to compete with a well skating warlock.

They provide good support and are capable of soloing content, more towards melee focused bosses. Oryx is a example of where they dont really shine

All classes are capable of decimating content with some shinings more then others in certain situations.

When it comes to survivability, hunters have it the worst while titans and warlocks have smth to keep them alice (barriers and rifts respectively)

Hunters just requires u to be more careful then other classes

[coarse lava]

in an lfg situation your probably going to want to be on strand for the added damage

granted there are a few situations where warlocks will easly be able to have well for transition

like ron 1-2-3

hunters can bring their best in the damage phase and then have a quick transition wich is 80% of a given warlock transition

[sick jolt]

Distance is the only problem for hunter. Their skate is 2nd in terms of raw distanxe, but they defentially can do it way more often than warlocks (especially if the warlock places the well)

[soft bough]

yeah man, going invisible and getting your entire hp bar back on a melee kill is hard stuff

[sick jolt]

Its harder than other

[soft bough]

Its really not 😭

[sick jolt]

Warlocks can sit in smth they spawna and titans can spawna barrier

[soft bough]

you dont even have to try

[sick jolt]

Idk why you giving so much sass

[soft bough]

you literally get 1 knife kill and you go invis for 10 seconds

and you can chain it infinitely

[unborn lava]

the assassins cowl and proximity knife in question:

[knotty glen]

meow

[coarse lava]

i mean compared to being able to instakill every ad from like 3 doors at a time and heal off of it or dr+ constant heal

theres maybe the claim that they are the worst especially sence solar is the subclass to be on for majority of situations

although as mentioned staying alive in normal tier content isnt really a struggle

[soft bough]

have you heard of forberance?

you just perfectly described forbearance

[sick jolt]

We are talking pure subclass.@soft bough

[coarse lava]

if anything i described anarchy

but yeah forb + healing nades on solar is usually enough for any situation

again what ive been saying\

building sustain into your subclass/class and sacrificing significant gains in more important areas like dps and transitions is why titans are mid

[sick jolt]

If we included weapons, "oh look i csn just shut down everyones points without looking at it." Survivability just becomes irrelevant espeically when you can just constantly proc resto x2

[soft bough]

Yeah so this game has weapons too

any subclass and character can use forberance and spawnkill + heal off ads

you can also do the same thing with ophidia sphate

[sick jolt]

verities for warlocks.

[coarse lava]

?

your missing his point

[carmine bear]

Idk why you should run ass cowl unless you suck at staying alive

Especially on solar

[coarse lava]

i mean

theres no reason not too

swap to nighthawk before damage

if it was a ses meta maybe but

[manic flax]

why is everyone making such a big deal out of this

just kill things and dont get killed

simple as that

[carmine bear]

On god

[coral talon]

Oh man. I just went for a nap and man there was alot to read. Thank you so much everyone for ur input. I gotta make personal replies to some stuff. give me a moment. So basically I saw healing nades being mentioned a lot

but the problem is if I need kinetic surges, how am i supposed to build subc around nades, since especially we're talking about solar

[coral talon]

lmfaooo.

[coral talon]

same. but should i not switch to CN and switch back to lucky pants if im on Solar for the most DPS situations

[coral talon]

that was exactly what I was trying to tell the destiny fam. lol

[coral talon]

So basically i hve to rely on my teammates for healing. I really cn't get any gud sustained healing like bonk on Titan and rifts on Warlock when it comes to solar

[coral talon]

bruh that's exactly wht I noticed. When I started using warlock early, I noticed that i was slower than my Titan in every case

But then I saw people wellskating out of their fricking minds, I knew that u can't beat taht in terms of mobility. It's insanenly fast and extrememly mobile in the hands of gud players

I see some people mention Strand Warlock. I might just switch to that dude. and then BOW Titan. Maybe it's a skill issue on my end and on top of that not to sh*t on anyone,

I feel like Hunters are very very situational. And just being over the top careful, I just cnt adapt.

[hardy kelp]

bro it’s so easy solar is not the play imo for wr run arc and use super, good rocket (preferably ap or cold comf.) then use lucky pants malfeasance also what’s a cn?

[oblique quarry]

dude i just saw your message that got deleted

what are you yapping about lmao

celestial is best super damage rn and you're saying its trash low level content 😭

[hardy kelp]

i’m pretty sure star eater arc hunter i only recommend lucky pants instead bc malfeasance can squeeze out 300k dmg easy on a taken boss```

[oblique quarry]

who gave bro the opportunity to speak

[hardy kelp]

who gave birth to u stfu

[oblique quarry]

arc hunter star eater is not better than celestial 😭 🙏

[coral talon]

Celestial Nighthawk brother

[coral talon]

positive on the rocket brother. Does stareater with arc staff really do more damage than CN with kinetic surges?

[sick jolt]

Titan has the worst skate since A. it doesn't go far at all and B. it casts bubble (the super)

[coral talon]

Since i want high damage and high survivability. Since I can't even play support for my teammates. They're supposting my a*s lol as Titans and hunters like Well and BOW

[sick jolt]

Well skate isn't based on the mobility stat, when I refer to mobility, I mean the skate will send you far af and very fast.

[coral talon]

Jesus. I meant people on Warlock Well were doing wellskating

[sick jolt]

We can extent the said distance with a combo of heat rises, inc dash, and eager edge, at the cost of severely decreasing speed after the well skate stops it's inital high speed.

[coral talon]

Exactly. I cannot keep unless I use Warlock and wellskate on solar. The other guy is just flying

[coral talon]

i took a note of that. Will def try that

[sick jolt]

Skating is a skill that you don't need to pick up. It's more for us who want to travel fast, especially in raids.

you can learn how to do it by hand or macro it. Macroing has a tigher condition to meet in order to preform the skate while doing it by hand allows you to just do a running start towards an edge and fly!

[coral talon]

cn u do it on a controller fam?

[sick jolt]

you can.

I don't know how to do it on controller as I play PC.

[coral talon]

like a controller on PC maybe

[sick jolt]

Shatter skate for hunters also works on controller from what I heard, idk about bubble

[coral talon]

ok

[coarse lava]

its a little annoying to do on normal roller binds

[native relic]

Surges don't buff CN anymore

[trail wagon]

My only recommendation is solar with Assassins Cowl, use gamblers dodge and the aspect that gives radiant on powered melee final blows

But you'd have to get rid of Lucky Pants

[daring bear]

assasins cowl

u cant die

[vernal stratus]

Start a OF acc to get money and u will find some gold digger that wants u for money

[carmine bear]

You have a problem if you need to run ass cowl on solar

[manic flax]

i dont think that a minor could start an OF

[vernal stratus]

Then feetfinder

[manic flax]

[trail wagon]

Hunter is trash, I don't use it, I'm just going off other people's recommendations

[oblique quarry]

kanye reference

[pseudo rover]

assassins cowl is pretty insane

[daring bear]

y low tier content

used in solo flawless root, solo master totem left side, solo gm speedruns

solo flawless master ghosts

??

would u not want to emmulate what good players do

assassins cowl is the best hunter exotic

[carmine bear]

calling it the best is a stretch

[coarse lava]

stop

talking

ever

you never ever have a single good or even decent take

you range from just incorrect to actively spreading missinfo

this is a case im seriously wondering if u are just lying to new players

[sonic surge]

untrue

[sonic surge]

uhm thats ironic

[oblique quarry]

what did hyena say i wanna know

[coarse lava]

that assassins cowl is bad in endgame content

[oblique quarry]

depends on the player tbh

doubt most people here cant properly use assassins cowl in gms

[coarse lava]

its somewhat difficult to use in full 3 man gms but its not weak

its just difficult to use

[sonic surge]

Its hard to get mellee kills with other people killing ur ads

All the things u mentioned had solo in it

[coarse lava]

yeah i mean in gms the number of low tier ads is pretty low compared to master raids and dungeons

so its generally much easier in solo to get your stacks up

[sonic surge]

That was the intent of my message

Was in places with less low tier ads it gets worse

Making it "weaker in endgame content"

[coarse lava]

its litteraly just weaker in gms

and its still a strong pick

you made it seem like it was weak in master raids, and dungeons by explicitly listing them

wich is just lying

[sonic surge]

Master raids with 6 its highly ineffective in

The more people killing ads the more useless the exotic is

[coarse lava]

just not true

how many master raids are all 6 people on 1 door?

like litteraly think about it for more the 2 seconds

gms its 3 people dealing with usually 1 group of ads

in master raids its usually 1-2 doors per person

vow, vog kf, ron and crota all have ad clear encounters where people are seprated due to mechanics

[sonic surge]

Do u purely use ass cowl or do u swap to a dps exotic

[coarse lava]

swapping for damage what?

cowl is not a dps exotic

[sonic surge]

Mhm

Do u swap to cel knighthawk?

[coarse lava]

either that or stareaters

but probably nighthawk yeah

and obviously rdm

[sonic surge]

Fair but like yeah its not a strong pick just swap/survivability exotic

[soft bough]

8 second invis and all your hp

Yeah man pretty mediocre icl

[carmine bear]

the weak use assassin's cowl, the based use liar's handshake