What Constitutes a good loadout for raids

[bronze dagger]

I want to get into raids, but ive never done them. I want to start doing stuff for crotas end

Thank you in advance

[sinful peak]

For DPS: You want to have a good LFR, crafted Taipan is commonly a must have for sherpa runs. You also want a good legendary rocket. Hothead works.

In terms of exotics; Gjally, Lament, Levi’s breath, Izi (niché but can be used to dps rotations). Merciless is also incredible for more advanced dps rotations.

For AD clear; for normal difficulty runs literally anything will do. Personally i like to get CC out of the way fast, so stuff like Trinity Ghoul, Forbearance etc.

If you want to optimize DPS by running double special with something like Eremite/Apex/Izi. You can lean into builds that can cover CC like sunbracers, arc hunter etc.

Then you might need to run champ mods in raids like VoW, no other ones come to mind wherein you can’t just burn them anyway.

Master raids is quite a bit different but you’ll prolly understand how to run them conceptually once you get some exp.

Just look up meta dps rotations imo. As a rule of thumb though; the less you have to reload during DPS, the higher the numbers go.

But a balanced loadout, in terms of your actual question then damage special weapon for dps; Izi, Eremite, Supremacy etc. CC primary literally anything.

Heavy rockets or linears depending on whether boss has crit or not.

Very rarely Lament, Crota for instance.

[rotund surge]

for crota:
1st encounter, addclear (lmg waveframe smg)

2nd encounter same

3rd encounter addclear specials, linear or levi with catalyst for dps (maby a fusion to kill wizz easier)

4th encounter swords, lament works very well

[bronze dagger]

Thank you guys very much! ive recnetly gotten some of these exotics and built the taipan and eremite, but apex is one im missing rn

[sinful peak]

But generally, know abt meta, a lot of groups enforce it. Adapt everything else to the encounter, room design etc.

[rotund surge]

its the same for most raids, addclear just have an lmg or something, dps depends on the boss rockets for most, some move too much and fusions or shotties are good for major killing

[grand jetty]

Mechanics are more important than perfect gear though. Most bosses you can 1 phase or almost 1 phase, and a second phase means double the damage time, so there isn't that much pressure

What is needed more is chill and being able to not forget the encounter mechanics in the rush

[amber wing]

You don't want a good lfr you will never use

[compact spade]

forgot taipans existed

feels weird

[bronze dagger]

Thank you thats really helpful!

[dry garnet]

In all of the weapons listed above, i'd like to include thunderlord. Its a good dps option and machine guns are much more forgiving than rockets/linears if you miss shots.

[compact spade]

No it's not

Cope pick

[ashen turret]

A halfway decent rocket, a decent addclear build, and something that can kill majors

Also you can just run tractor or Ghorn both of those are perfectly usable

[void latch]

no 😭

[void latch]

do you have lament and what class do u play

[bronze dagger]

I play Warlock Well, yeah i do got lament :D

[radiant arrow]

Datto has a youtube video called "How to Do Raid DPS/Damage So You Won't Get Kicked from LFG". It covers some of the top options as well as what you should be during DPS phase.

If you're looking to do Crota: Lament, Well, a decent rocket, and a decent ad clear build is all you need.

[woven plover]

Dude why would you ever use thunderlord

The only 3 exotics I can think of that should take your power slot are gjally, tractor or the lament

Or like parasite occasionally

I'm curious when do you use parasite

[stark cipher]

nobody uses parasite💀

[woven plover]

I've seen it be used when really high burst DPS is needed

[stark cipher]

its good for literally 1 shot and then its useless.

[woven plover]

Yeah it has great burst DPS

[stark cipher]

i could see a strat where you use it once and then switch loadouts

[woven plover]

That's probably good for something

[stark cipher]

but aint nobody doin that

[woven plover]

Idek

[stark cipher]

its barely good for burst dps. i'd wager over over the course of the reserves, 4th has better burst

[final mountain]

just remember that what these fellow people say are not REQUIREMENTS but simply suggestions that will make your life much easier in raids.

In general as long as you have a decent rocket and maybe a decent linear fusion rifle you are set for a good 75% of them.

Most of raids is just understanding mechanics so try your best to learn them! other than that there is nothing to worry about

[final mountain]

DSC 2ND encounter, really tight window of damage

[woven plover]

With that exo thing?

I forgot what it's called

[final mountain]

yeah its Atraks -1 Parasite and high damage super is commonly used to basically two phase boss somtimes one phase not counting last stand

[woven plover]

Oh okay thanks

[stark cipher]

i forgot people use parasite for atraks. i dont do dsc anymore.

[rotund surge]

acri and levi

[woven plover]

Oh shii ur right

Those too Levis is great idk sometimes acrius

[void latch]

overture

[void latch]

morgeth / atraks

[void latch]

first encounter:
sunbracers or t steps ( once you get used to the layout )
riptide
sunshot or trinity
eager edge

mostly ads encounter and avoiding swinging pendulums / holes in the ground

2nd
sunbracers
quicksilver storm
forbearance or any waveframe
lmg or eager edge

again lots of ads, barrier champs

3rd:
sunbracers ( ads phase )
lunafactions ( swap before dropping well )
depends what you run, something simple could be
shotgun
mini tool
levis breath

or whatever works for you for precision damage, keep in mind there should be a player with divinity on ur team

there will be a lot of ads so sunbracers goes crazy, just swap to lunas before you drop your well for the stats to your team

4th
sunbracers

shotgun
minitool
lament

few ads, shotgun for the majors like knights and ogres, you can sunbracers the rest, you can also stay on sunbracers for dps doesnt matter that much

thats just a simple suggestion for what to run but honestly you can get away with anything in crota and still do fine

if you want to make life a little easier you can cap your fps to 60 and hitting crota with lament will be x10 better since you wont track thru him the entire time

since youre new to raiding id suggest having 1-2 open loadouts to swap to for stuff like dps loadout etc

like for example copy over your sunbracers loadout, keep the same subclass options but change exotic piece / armour pieces and mods with surges etc before dps starts

[bronze dagger]

Yeah have recenetly been watching alot of his stuff and thank god there so much info!

[bronze dagger]

💀

[bronze dagger]

Yeah, the bottom line stuff was what i was looking for but im so glad that so many people have dropped suggestions, something im def gonna come back and read through whenever im confused

[bronze dagger]

When you refer to mini tool do you mean mida or calus?

[void latch]

calus

or again really any solar weapon works

[bronze dagger]

ah ok thats the one you get from weekly exotic mission yeah?

[void latch]

yep presage

[bronze dagger]

ive heard alot about it, i'll try and farm the mission for a good roll on it, anything must have perk wise on it?

[bronze dagger]

imma be real i havent set up a single loadout yet, when i first got back it seems crazy but now i dont even know what id put in it

[compact spade]

atrak

[void latch]

send me a dm tomorrow this time ill send you my warlock loadouts

[bronze dagger]

Ok ok :D

[void latch]

not worth farming youll lose your mind

do one on normal and one on legend every week

[bronze dagger]

ah ok ty for saving my brain

[void latch]

first completion of each difficulty gives you a guaranteed red

[bronze dagger]

any cratable that you rec

[compact spade]

drop rates for what you want are abysmal

red borders rarely drop too

[bronze dagger]

so deepsights come in handy there huh

i wish i knew i was doing this about 3 weeks ago

[compact spade]

only worth using them for some weapons

[bronze dagger]

yeah i used them on whatever

i got 1 left

[compact spade]

from the exotic mission rotator you'd want mini tool, ikelos smg, and path of least

[bronze dagger]

ohh you get path from it to

ive been seeing that around aswell, ill keep an eye out for those

[void latch]

path is from operation seraph shield

the exotic missions rotate between 3 of them

[woven plover]

Dude

[void latch]

bro said dude

[woven plover]

Couldn't have someone told me this before I played seraph shield 10 times throughout this whole reset

[void latch]

lol

how could u not tell after the first time

that u werent getting red borders

[bronze dagger]

only thing i be farming atm is cold comfort

[woven plover]

Well I have enough harmonizers for any weapon so I'm just hoping I get ikelos

I'm Def not farming presage it's the worst one

[void latch]

just get apex

[bronze dagger]

kk :D

[void latch]

no seraph is

presage is a 5 min run with skip

[bronze dagger]

i have a apex atm

[void latch]

apex is all u need

[bronze dagger]

slideways , bait and swtich

[void latch]

oh not crafted?

[bronze dagger]

no no

[void latch]

need to do last wish once a week to buy one from hawthorne then

[bronze dagger]

impact casing and volatile

[woven plover]

Slideways rolls on rockets??

I guess you can slide in the well lmao

[bronze dagger]

apparently on apex lol

i did my first raid yesterday and someone said to do last wish for apex

but ive been farming ghost of the deep today for the armour set

[rotund surge]

slideways has a 3s cooldown, its not worth it

[ashen turret]

You can theoretically use slideways as a debatable sidegrade to ALH/Recon, swapping off and then swapping back after 3 secs and then sliding
Sadly this game doesn’t have a slide bind so you have to move for that

[rotund surge]

dont move during rocket dps, you will hear complaints

[ashen turret]

Yeah also that

[compact spade]

What's the god roll for cold comfort rq

[rotund surge]

envious bns or el but el not as good as it runs out too quick

[compact spade]

dope

i havent had it drop yet but i want it

[steep ledge]

bns just better

[rotund surge]

craft an apex then if you are purely going by whats better

[steep ledge]

cc is better for rdm hunters

[ashen turret]

Or ic dash/rof warlocks

Also it’s stasis so it can benefit from baliodorse

Which is basically the only damage buff that stacks with surges

[amber wing]

Best burst weapon in the entire game

[stark cipher]

You got 1 shot to deal any significant dmg and then it just falls off

Also, generally, regular dps >>> burst.

[amber wing]

Definition of burst: