Wishener vs Le Monarque

[rancid stirrup]

Whats better especially for void hunter in GMs? And then worth with Oathkeeper?

[earnest lodge]

Monarque with gyrfalcons

[rancid stirrup]

Feel like ominoculus is often more usfull so thats the amore I'm using

[gentle star]

Wish Ender is better if there are more anti barriers (Which there are this season) and you want to play a little safer , and Le Monarque is better if you want a more aggressive approach (And overloads).

I would just go with Wish Ender. Oathkeeper does not buff the "Broadhead" perk, which is the majority of the damage, so I would use something else. It also doesn't affect the poison on Le monarque

[rancid stirrup]

I mean there are ALWAYs anti barrier, not always overload

mhh ok thx

[fathom kite]

if you are doing a GM with a lot of ads gyrfalcons is nice cause option cause you spread volatile and can AOE kills ads fast

Wish ender is the opposite in slow draw time makes it bad for GM with lots of ads

both are have diff intrinsic champ on them as wish ender is barrier, monarque is overload

[rancid stirrup]

But is sth like Oathkeepers even worth when you have options like gyrfalcons, ominoculus or even orpheus?

[fathom kite]

i don't think it is in GM

you also have graviton forfeit for GM inf invis

[next otter]

False

[rancid stirrup]

Which GM this season does not have barrier?

[next otter]

Mars or lightblade

[rancid stirrup]

Lightblade has barrier and unstop rn

[stoic siren]

lightblade has barriers

[next otter]

Idk then

[rancid stirrup]

thats what I mean, next season might be different, but thats next season

[fathom kite]

5 of 6 are barrier/unstop this season

[turbid plover]

No its not

Omni is mot good in gms

theres no point of being invis so long when the ads arent going anywhere

youre just gonna end up taking about twice the amount of tome to clear the gm as you would on any other exotic

[fathom kite]

devils lair has i think barrier overload

thing with volatile as well it will give other void weapons like an LMG antibarrier

[rancid stirrup]

Omin is very usfulll. In the lightblade you can make the whole boat part so eazy, same in all the heist ones its so much easier to deposit the 5 orbs.

In scarlet keep you can basically skip the whole elevator.

Shall I go on?

[turbid plover]

In the boat you can either work as a team and spawnkill wizard and shrieker or hop off to the side
In heist you can spawnkill all the ads very easily and deposit the orbs with barely any enemies alive

In scarlet keep theres a safe spot to hide in every section of the elevator where none of the ads can shoot you

[rancid stirrup]

ofc you can do all of that without it as well, but its just so much easier and the chance of dying is less. Why go the hard way if there is an easy one?

[earnest lodge]

Yeah don't use that

Omni is pretty bad

[rancid stirrup]

Why do you think so?

[earnest lodge]

Because it's not very beneficial to be permanently invisible if you arent using gyrfalcons or assassins cowl

[rancid stirrup]

well all give you relativly permant invis, all for yourself but omin even for allies, so why are they better?

@earnest lodge

[earnest lodge]

Assassins cowl and gyrfalcons kill ads as well

[rancid stirrup]

How does assassins cowl kill ads? Gyrfalcons with volatile, ok, but isnt the highest priority in a GM survivalbility? No one does damage when their dead.

Dont get me wrong, assassins cowl is nice, espcially with the arc build. I really love that build, but Idk but gms.

[earnest lodge]

The highest priority is survivability which assassins cowl and gyrfalcons excel in

You cannot get killed if all the adds die first

[rancid stirrup]

Yeah and there you have it, the little if.

with omni Idc about that, I'm independent

[earnest lodge]

No you arent

[rancid stirrup]

why not

[earnest lodge]

With omni you turn a 3 player activity into a 2 player activity

[rancid stirrup]

I would say that about the other 2 exotics because they only function with yourself not with teammates like omni

[earnest lodge]

Omni turns you into dead weight.

[rancid stirrup]

why

like I really want to know why you are thinking like this

[earnest lodge]

Because it doesnt provide anything of use

[rancid stirrup]

yeah it does, basically invis plus resistance for you and the whole team

to put it simple

[earnest lodge]

That's not useful because it kills nothing and the damage resist isnt useful either

[rancid stirrup]

damage resistance insnt usefull in a gm where highest priority survivalbility is? I'd rather take 30 mins for a gm first try, than needing to take multiple tries even when in the last run its only 10 mins.

takes overall less

[earnest lodge]

Damage resist on omni only applies when you're invis so it's useless

[rancid stirrup]

True, but better than nothin, do the other two exotics give resist? no

And then to consider, not everyone has all of the 3 exotics, so even if there is one BEST of all 3, does this make the other ones bad? No ofc not, all are good.

[earnest lodge]

They dont give resist they heal and give you invis and make being aggressive super easy

[rancid stirrup]

I dont think that any of them are not worth to be used at all, it depends as well of what you have acess to.

only assassins cowl heals, not Gyrfalcons

and its not good on void either

[earnest lodge]

Yeah it's good on arc which is arguably better

[rancid stirrup]

Arc hunter is the opposite of easy in a GM. Its a very high risk high reward build and kinda the strongest meele build for the hunter, but its not strand titan. Its perfect for lost sectors etc.

[turbid plover]

We you cant really kill things when you’re invisible

So you if you make your whole fireteam invisible, nothing really gets done

[calm pike]

le monarque is crazy good, but wish ender is better