#easy to get highest DPS guns

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thick frigate
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highest DPS gun I can get without doing raids if any

manic creek
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taipan is relatively good in its class

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hothead is a legacy focus from zavala very good and easy to get

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one of the best rocket launchers until recently

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even now id argue cos of its accessibility it still holds its own

thick frigate
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wait i meant mashine gun sorry

manic creek
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ahh

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the retrofit might be at xur one day thats a decent gun

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uhh

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thunderlord is really good but its an exotic

alpine nexus
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only machine guns even considered for dps are a godroll retrofit or thunderlord

manic creek
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^

alpine nexus
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even then they bot fell off pretty hard when they got fixed

manic creek
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why are you specifically looking at machine guns?

alpine nexus
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machineguns are addclear/major killers not dps weapons

thick frigate
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i wanted thunderlord but i cant do raids yet i am new player

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so i wanted something similer

alpine nexus
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you dont have to do raids for TLord

manic creek
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thunderlord isnt a raid exotic

thick frigate
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the commaration is it?

flat locust
thick frigate
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not sure i watched like 10 youtube videos in 30 min

alpine nexus
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commemoration is from deepstone, yes

manic creek
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isnt commemoration DSC

thick frigate
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how to get thunderlord ?

manic creek
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thunderlord is still your most accessible best bet if you wanna get a machine gun

thick frigate
manic creek
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its just in the exotic pool i believe

alpine nexus
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either random drops or exotic kiosk i think

thick frigate
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belive me i am not that lucky

manic creek
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just open the engrams from xur when he comes

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xur guarantees an exotic you dont have

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thats in that pool

thick frigate
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armor included?

alpine nexus
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yes

manic creek
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if you right click or preview button the exotic engram when xurs there itll show you whats in that pool but yes armour included

thick frigate
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thanks guys

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xur arrives at fridays?

manic creek
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if you want a dps weapon in this current meta id just rock a rocket

flat locust
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If you want machine gun for ad clear theres dsc machine gun but machine guns suck for dmg

thick frigate
manic creek
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taipan is a good start ye

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try grab a hothead from zavala

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clown + field prep is the roll youd be looking for generally or auto loading + explosive light if youre gonna be doing damage rotations

thick frigate
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hothead or witherlord?

alpine nexus
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taipan is acceptable, but try and find a rocket like hothead, or of you have witchqueen try crafting red herring

manic creek
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do you mean witherhoard? thats a good way to sneak in some damage as well if you want

thick frigate
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yes

burnt root
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Are you excluding dungeons too? Because cold comfort is otherwise a good option

flat locust
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Would def farm last wish for apex predator or farm dungeon for stasis rocket those are the best rockets in the game currently

alpine nexus
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you dont have to run either or, just run both

burnt root
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Kinda hard to get the right roll though

manic creek
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they want a dps weapon not from raids i think

thick frigate
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i am new so i cant do raids yet

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this is my first week playin

manic creek
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i mean technically most raids you can pass through by just knowing mechanics and having the most basic dps wep

alpine nexus
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you can do last wish if you have the forsaken pack

burnt root
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Cold comfort is like the 2nd best rocket in the game

alpine nexus
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its 1600 LL and you can get yourself a sherpa in the #find-a-sherpa channel to teach you the raid

thick frigate
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1600 ll?

manic creek
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light level

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every raid except the newest one i believe

alpine nexus
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^^

burnt root
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A palmyra-b is also a really good pick

manic creek
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^^^

flat locust
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Id say apex/cold comfort are scenarios cold comfort better for burst apex better for longer phases because you can use solar weapons to stack surges

manic creek
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ye but theyre dungeon/raid exclusive and they dont wanna do raids yet

flat locust
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Palmyra b sucks

alpine nexus
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palmyra doesnt really compete anymore simply because of its frame

thick frigate
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alright so for dps i should go for rockets

burnt root
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It's still a good pick for someone that just started

alpine nexus
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yes

manic creek
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palmyra is def a good start tho but with how easy the crucible rocket launcher or hothead is to get

burnt root
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Granted they get a good roll early

manic creek
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may as well invest time elsewhere

thick frigate
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and for champs either hothead or witherboard

flat locust
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Its a precision frame 10% less than any rocket

alpine nexus
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20% less

manic creek
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i mean this post is about easy to get weps and palmyra is def amongst the easiest

thick frigate
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what is the best traits

manic creek
alpine nexus
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auto loading explosive light

manic creek
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i think its impulse + explosive if youre gonna hold that weapon the entire time but autoloading explosive is most optimal i think

burnt root
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If it were the absolute most optimal weapons palmyra would be out of the question

alpine nexus
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or chill clip instead of explosive light

manic creek
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^

thick frigate
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alright

manic creek
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most optimal weps in this game are mostly a pain to get perfect rolls of

thick frigate
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ya i relised that

burnt root
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Or a pain to get the patterns

thick frigate
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that if you can get them anyway

alpine nexus
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gotten easier with crafting tho

manic creek
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v true

thick frigate
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my last question for champs DPS hothead or witherboard?

manic creek
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but things like cold comfort FeelsBadMan

alpine nexus
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if you just go for the guaranteed redboarders you can craft a raid weapon it at most 5 weeks

manic creek
burnt root
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But doesn't each raid guarantee 2 red borders a week?

manic creek
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i usually use abilities and special to chunk them or one shot of a rocket it doesnt really matter

alpine nexus
burnt root
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The red border chest and completing the raid first time each week

alpine nexus
thick frigate
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alright i will focus hothead then

burnt root
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That is fair ye

thick frigate
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thanks guys

manic creek
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considering how champ stun things work, burst dps is best so as the other person said something that hits hard fast

inland jacinth
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if you did a reset before focusing there's chance

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of extra options in column

alpine nexus
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not for hothead

inland jacinth
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rip then

alpine nexus
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that only works for the ritual weapons from basic strikes

inland jacinth
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ohhh

alpine nexus
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the perk pool still isnt that big, so its relatively easy to get a good roll

inland jacinth
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so nf is always
well adept is 2/1 i know

alpine nexus
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yes

inland jacinth
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is hothead 1/1?

alpine nexus
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yes

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but if they increase the vendor engrams you can get focusing more will be easier

flat locust
alpine nexus
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it was 10% they changet it to 20% so it would make more of a difference

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basic rocket damage is 1x
adaptive and agressive are 1.1x
percision is 0.9x
so its 20% less

flat locust
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im gonna go test rq

flat locust
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huh when did they make that change

alpine nexus
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somewhere halfway thru witch queen

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they wanted to make the subfamilies "more defined" or sth so the tracking had tracking and all others had damage

eternal fiber
alpine nexus
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who cares about 2%

eternal fiber
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Impact casing Mfs

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It’s still important to note

alpine nexus
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yeah, but thats just every rocket