highest dps option for warlock during atheon?

[spring holly]

veritys brow w xenophage

[zenith forge]

verity

[humble wadi]

Oh yeah xeno is solar too. Do people run fusion or solar with verity?

[spring holly]

I'm pretty sure fusion nades

[odd flame]

Fusion nades verity’s and xeno to refresh buff

You can do more then half of his health solo

[clever crystal]

xeno wouldn’t be best choice, you want a demo rocket with erianas vow to refresh buff

[spring holly]

xeno is just easier then erianas vow

since erianas doesnt have explosive damage

[clever crystal]

why do you want explosive damage?

you will hit higher dps with a rocket launcher

[spring holly]

for adds

[clever crystal]

why are you killing ads with xeno?

[spring holly]

death throes...

[clever crystal]

erianas would work out better for that

and then demo rocket for dps

and erianas will do oracle with 3x precise oracle mods

[spring holly]

xeno is literally better for ad clear and easier to use but ok

[clever crystal]

yeah but you are lowering damage, and it’s not hard to aim and shoot my guy

[spring holly]

it takes longer to proc death throes with erianas

[clever crystal]

no, you build it before dps on ads or oracles, it won’t hurt you at all

it hurts to kill all your ads during or right before dps cause then not everyone can refresh buff

[spring holly]

6 veritys brow isnt the way to go

you know death throes benefits the grenade regen of your teammates

[clever crystal]

it is last i checked, @gaunt shoal correct?

[clever crystal]

yeah but the grenade damage is what you want for atheon

[clever crystal]

also @gaunt shoal lmao i literally started typing @ vog relic
but then realized

[spring holly]

unless there are infinite ads 6 veritys brows isnt the way to go

[clever crystal]

there are enough ads to build stacks

atheon should die in first 6-8 seconds last i checked (could be wrong)

[spring holly]

but it isnt worth it

[clever crystal]

it is tho, more dps >

[spring holly]

more dps for 0.0001 seconds optimization

[clever crystal]

read the forum name

[spring holly]

getting 6 veritys brow running is not consistent

[clever crystal]

it is

[spring holly]

no it isnt

ads accidentally die to fusion nades, not everyone will get death throes running

[clever crystal]

then people are bad at aiming, the current wr uses 6x verities brow with demo rockets and they kill in 9 seconds

[spring holly]

it is the same thing as saying winterbite is better then rockets for explicator dps

[gaunt shoal]

on what atheon?

[clever crystal]

yeah

[gaunt shoal]

yeah you should use 6

[spring holly]

world records take multiple attempts

[gaunt shoal]

or 5 technically

[clever crystal]

yeah but the kill isn’t what’s inconsistent, it’s the first encounter that’s inconsistent

and templar (i think)

[clever crystal]

?

[gaunt shoal]

last oracles shooter doesnt have time to do any damage with nades

[clever crystal]

ah i see

[gaunt shoal]

atheon is 100% consistent in speeds

idk what ur talking about

after templar the run is over

[gaunt shoal]

yeah it is lol

there are plenty of adds

[spring holly]

the original post said what is the best dps option for atheon solo

he deleted the message idk why

[clever crystal]

it currently says “highest dps option for warlock during atheon” that is verities brow fusion grenades with a demo rocket

[spring holly]

ok but the original post said solo

idk why your trying to argue now

[gaunt shoal]

he dies in like 4-5

[clever crystal]

that’s not what forum name says but ok

[clever crystal]

your current wr has a 9 second kill 👀

[spring holly]

scroll all the way up to the top

[clever crystal]

what abt it

[spring holly]

i just said he deleted the original message

[clever crystal]

ok and? i was answering the forum name, which does not change

[gaunt shoal]

horrible

[spring holly]

i was answering the original question

[clever crystal]

the title is the question

[spring holly]

no...

when you make a thread there are 2 part

[clever crystal]

lmao, better than the run that got disqualified for moxxer moving and the robot dps clips

[spring holly]

you put the title and then the actual message

[clever crystal]

ok, but still verities with rocket is higher dps, what’s your point?

[spring holly]

it isnt solo

[clever crystal]

wdym it isn’t solo?

[spring holly]

on a solo kill xenophage is better

[gaunt shoal]

😂

solo using xeno and not tractor

[clever crystal]

is solo even possible atm? and also you would be using tractor for a debuff

[gaunt shoal]

sorta

[clever crystal]

is it the weird stand still and create a finisher clone thing still?

[gaunt shoal]

yea

[spring holly]

they both 1 phase and using xeno is easier, saying that tractor is better is a stupid arguement since it is more difficult to proc and they both 2 phase while 1 method is easier.

Better includes efficiency and ease of use not just efficiency

[clever crystal]

you are not getting a solo 1 phase what?

[spring holly]

with your logic you could argue winterbite is better then rockets since winterbite can easily melt bosses

[clever crystal]

i’m not saying that, you are also making 0 sense

[spring holly]

half of the time you say something is better, it is usually 1-2 seconds better then the other option and is harder to pull off

[clever crystal]

i’m sorry that you can’t point and click?

[clever crystal]

^

[spring holly]

when did i say your 1 phasing

i said they both 2 phase

[spring holly]

90% of the time it is more difficult then point and click

xenophage is point and click

[clever crystal]

“they both 1 phase”

[spring holly]

do you know how to read

they both 2 phase

[clever crystal]

so is a solar sniper, also you get a more consistent and forgiving dps phase with tractor which for solo is what you would want

[spring holly]

it is written right there

[clever crystal]

the first line you wrote

[clever crystal]

“they both 1 phase”

[spring holly]

with snipers you can miss, they are difficult to shoot with, they maybe take off 5 seconds of your run but the point is that they are HARDER to use and the reward is minimal

[spring holly]

ok thats a typo my bad

it is not they are harder to use but they do the job 10x better

[clever crystal]

30% more dps is not minimal, your dps phase is much more forgiving which is what you want in a solo, especially like atheon

if you can’t hit a sniper shot, you shouldn’t be doing solo atheon

[spring holly]

they both 2 phase, hitting sniper shots isnt HARD but there is a way bigger possibility of missing

compared to xeno which is point and shoot inside your well

with the occasional grenade button

[clever crystal]

it’s not hard at all

any solo that’s been done uses tractor

or most solos

that’s because it’s objectively better

[spring holly]

*on titan

[clever crystal]

and lock, i believe

also @spring holly not to mention that current solo atheon strats use ticuus for your exotic anyway

[spring holly]

swap...

[clever crystal]

to tractor

[raw roost]

viper000#3921 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[bronze dock]

Dude stop riding

[clever crystal]

i’m not, i was making fun of his kill

cause he said it should be 4-6 seconds but his run that is record had a bad kill

like ppl who made fun of old dsc record final stand or old wish record queenswalk (“better than record lol”)

[gaunt shoal]

😂

[gaunt shoal]

Best is not the same thing as easiest

[gaunt shoal]

This is not a real message

[spring holly]

best is a combination of easiest and efficiency

[gaunt shoal]

No dude the word best has a well understood meaning

The post title is literally highest dps

[gaunt shoal]

Bro has no idea what he is talking about

Me when I am confidently wrong on the internet 😎

[gaunt shoal]

No worries current record has like a 5s

Hopefully the 16 does too

[clever crystal]

the 17: smth?

[gaunt shoal]

17:07

[clever crystal]

on src?

@gaunt shoal

[gaunt shoal]

unsubmitted

[clever crystal]

ah, src record has 9 sec kill

that’s what i was referencing

[gaunt shoal]

yea ik

it wont be record soon 😎

[clever crystal]

Ooo

wasn’t team dinner table running vog for a bit? or are they still running

if you know