💬destiny-chat

[river birch]

are you a root farmer

[meager flower]

Or armored core 6

[covert sky]

Same but was just seeing

[tired oriole]

☠️

[covert sky]

Also ragebaiting pve bots

[distant tendon]

Armored core 6 mentioned

[tired oriole]

☠️

[knotty verge]

i only farmed lfg tbh

[covert sky]

Good lil .8kd kid

Lemark cant hurt a soul

[tired oriole]

❤️

[river birch]

interesting

[distant tendon]

You're such a good boy for me, be a good boy and go sit in the pvp sweat corner <3

[tired oriole]

this guy is rage baiting everyone

[distant tendon]

@covert sky

[south snow]

Uwu

[tired oriole]

[covert sky]

Go sit in ur pve corner and be a good boy as well

[river birch]

youre definitely a root farmer

[knotty verge]

fox was a big and round farmer

[tired oriole]

nah i only hae 100 clears

[river birch]

i see

[distant tendon]

the pve corner is fun :3 all my friends are here

[tired oriole]

i miss dsc

[river birch]

oh youre a dsc farmer

[distant tendon]

wym? you can still play it

[tired oriole]

Cant play it

[distant tendon]

[meager flower]

https://tenor.com/view/armored-core-6-armored-core-vi-ac6-gif-18304652401174134244

[tired oriole]

im not even a farmer at all

[distant tendon]

No teams?

[tired oriole]

i just played the game a lot

ima dungeon farmer 🙂

[distant tendon]

I beat the true ending on day 2 of playing xd, the game was so damn fun

[river birch]

ohhhhhh

[meager flower]

Lets all play warframe

[tired oriole]

top 400 cleats

[meager flower]

Become tenno

[river birch]

tel aviv impressed

[south snow]

No

[tired oriole]

now im top 800

[distant tendon]

Can't, internet is doo doo and won't let me join online games on warframe

[tired oriole]

lfg farmers stole my pbs

[south snow]

Destiny 3

[tired oriole]

[river birch]

you gotta get it back man

[meager flower]

Maybe the destiny team will join digital extremes

[distant tendon]

no no no... Destiny :3

[river birch]

im your biggest fan

[tired oriole]

i heard they are updating every activity this might be epic

[distant tendon]

You heard right!

[river birch]

lfg farms for 3 weeks

[south snow]

You’re getting tickled

[distant tendon]

[bold rivet]

🤨

[tired oriole]

thats why u farm gos and vesper first

[knotty verge]

@tired oriole WE are farming dsc lfg

[south snow]

Garden of shi

[tired oriole]

okieeeeeeerr

[river birch]

enlighten me

[south snow]

Deep stone coc

[river birch]

as to why

[tired oriole]

everyone will do this first bc nobody will be playing in 3 weeks

[south snow]

Shut yo aah zekrom reshiram better

[bold rivet]

dats mean

[distant tendon]

if you could go back in time to any day 1 raid and use your current skills to complete said day 1, what raid would you choose?

[river birch]

but then youd miss out on others

[tired oriole]

all of them all of them

[south snow]

Eater of worlds

[river birch]

crown

[proper field]

Dsc sotp

[tired oriole]

ppl will still farm tbe fun raids idk

[distant tendon]

was there an eow emblem?

[knotty verge]

root!

[tired oriole]

im HIGH as FREAK idk what im talking about

[distant tendon]

or was last wish the first day 1 emblem

[south snow]

No

Yes

[distant tendon]

gotcha

[proper field]

I think you’ll still be able to get a group together to do raids even in like 2-3 months

[tired oriole]

root forever

[river birch]

ohhhh youre a cannabis farmer

[distant tendon]

i forgor

[tired oriole]

ppl still do raids u just have to suffer

[knotty verge]

fox was always high

[tired oriole]

fcxiking

[knotty verge]

fox do you remember that dsc when they couldnt stop jorking it in the back and we got timeloss

[tired oriole]

Yes

my pb was ruined and they balmed me but it wasnt me after thirx

[knotty verge]

descent when 2 min timeloss

a 13 2 years ago was pretty ok

[tired oriole]

i remember crota farms where i listened to a grown man flirt with a minor

😐

[knotty verge]

avg crota farmer

[trail rapids]

trash. fake speedrunner. phony even.

[river birch]

beast mode?

par for the course for raid farmers actually

[tired oriole]

i have a sub 15 thi

[south snow]

Leviathan farmer

[tired oriole]

thi

[elfin current]

Mmm farming

[wraith spoke]

idc what anyone says root is the best raid to just unwind after a long day

[meager flower]

https://tenor.com/view/warframe-gauss-preparation-liberation-running-gif-11880613665192310279

[distant tendon]

it's the prettiest raid imo

[meager flower]

That belongs to gos

Or LW

[wraith spoke]

it is. i started D2 in Lightfall and i remember my buddies taking me through RoN for the first time

thats when i became a true D2 crackhead lmao

[wraith spoke]

ive never actualy played GoS... but personally, LW is third, Vow is second for me in terms of visuals

[distant tendon]

ehhh, i like pink and iridescence alotttt

gos is overgrown vex architecture

[twin spruce]

@everyoneRemember to vote for D3 at change.org!

[distant tendon]

I've gotten 40 people to sign

[wraith spoke]

i have 20 clears on RoN and got Conditional Finality to drop 3 times lmao

[distant tendon]

[twin spruce]

Great

[wraith spoke]

nice

131k as of now

[turbid sparrow]

will the petition even do anything?

[verbal field]

Matterspark

[distant tendon]

it's guaranteed to reach sony and they're required to give a response once it hits 100k signatures according to change.org, so we'll hear from sony about it and hopefully it'll show that everyone wants d3 instead of marathon slop

[brisk sage]

Damn it's hot out here today just sat outside to have my ice cream floors like a frying pan

Gonna end up as comrade crispy

[hollow hill]

Kira is that actually true?

[wraith spoke]

i dont think so, but i also think its worth a shot

[hollow hill]

whats making sony say anything?

[distant tendon]

On their website it says that somewhere, some guy showed the page in a video i watched

[coarse burrow]

no

[distant tendon]

i don't remember where it was

[knotty verge]

better to try something than to just,let it happen

[autumn marlin]

We as a community need to band together and keep the player numbers above Marathon after the June update we can't go out without a fight

[wraith spoke]

it'll send a message at the very least

[hollow hill]

why cant the community make a destiny 3

[knotty verge]

the humble ip infringment lawsuit

[hollow hill]

they cant sue 100,000 people

i mean i guess they can but like what if they get licensing

[knotty verge]

they wont,its sonys now

sony loves to sit on ips

[raven isle]

ok bro making it right now

[hollow hill]

thats stupid

[raven isle]

ok ???

u asking me to make d3 now you dont want it

[hollow hill]

not you bro, sony sitting on ips

[autumn marlin]

we all remember how long it took Sony to let the MCU use Spider-Man

[hollow hill]

LMFAO

[raven isle]

spider man = omni man

to this day i dont understand why people love spider man over super man or even batman

[autumn marlin]

nostalgia

it depends on who you started reading first

[raven isle]

I actually never read a comic in my life

just used to watch cartoons when i was a kid

mainly started with spogbob tho

[autumn marlin]

dang I learned how to read with comic books lmao

Destiny 2 died so that Marathon could die

I'm boycotting Sony I'm never buying another Sony product

[raven isle]

I dont belive in boycotting

[frosty maple]

The people who played before beyond light or witch queen are depressed ngl

[frosty maple]

No

June 9th update isnt even alot

Its just a mid update ngl. Not a proper tribute

[orchid mauve]

They are just updating tower, updating destination thing, adding what's prolly just gonna be a walk around sim for the "story closer" stuff and add back pantheon and srl

[inner edge]

Also refreshing every old weapon in the game lul

[orchid mauve]

Oh yh

[inner edge]

There’s secrets too whatever those will be

Honestly most hype for me is Levi, Crown and Eater encounters coming back

[orchid mauve]

Holy jst realised xivu arath is never gonna be ingame lol

[crude flint]

💀

[spiral grove]

we trapped all of destiny’s craziest takes in d2 lfg

[carmine wind]

She starved to death off screen

[carmine wind]

Spire of stars enjoyers in shambles

[inner edge]

That’s the secret, they’ll bring back that boss and add 20 more steps to start DPS lol

[spiral grove]

last update is likely gonna have the most perk refreshes in the history of the franchise

[carmine wind]

last update to d2 is when 90% of the ppl that come back uninstall d2

[spiral grove]

lol no

[lost island]

What is likely going to be PVE meta by the time the raid hits?

pantheon*

[elfin whale]

does any1 know the name of the ost name for the cutscene that plays at the end of excision? I've heard it a thousand times in orbit but I can't remember what it's called

[elfin whale]

well if they're not going to make any sandbox nerfs then probably mint retrograde and finality's auger will work for most bosses

there will also be an absurd amount of weapons being updated to the tier system so I'm sure there will be plenty of other great options

[autumn marlin]

You don't believe in voting with your wallet in a Capitalist society? You're the reason Arby's is still in business

[blissful scaffold]

Arby still float ?

[tired oriole]

who even eats arbys

boycotting worked for marathon

[knotty verge]

unless they are completely rebalance the game,probably the exact same thing as the last 6 months

rocket meta june 9th trust

[tired oriole]

surely thet change the meta

[raven isle]

it does not work

[blissful scaffold]

And saber

[knotty verge]

saber will always be mid!

[raven isle]

not another praxic blade meta

[small summit]

dude i just came back from a cruise

what is GOING ON

[knotty verge]

throw rocks at sony

[small summit]

[lost island]

Hoppin on later with some friends, we were thinkin of farmin the stuff out. Do you (or anyone else) know what the exact weapons rolls we need are?
And as far as the general builds for PVE, what class/exotic armor/build?

Might be a good post to sticky somewhere, for anyone returning

[south snow]

Mint retrograde nothing else matters

[raven isle]

wrong

[tired oriole]

u need good stats

[raven isle]

let me introduce you to finalitys augur , i bet not alot of people here got the catalyst for it

[storm relic]

finalitys auger so you can use mint retrograde

[tired oriole]

parasite

[storm relic]

true swagger is whirling ovation

[raven isle]

psi aeterna iv brother

[wanton merlin]

Arby's got the meat brother

[south snow]

Meeeeeeeh

[raven isle]

Reghusk's Pledge GURDIANS you guys dont

wolfsbane

[storm relic]

reghusks be like: hello i am worse reckless oracle

[raven isle]

I hope we get a t5 gnawing hunger tho

to this day i dont have burried bloodline cause i hate that dungeon last boss

[normal sentinel]

Does anyone have any tips for getting A ranks on exotic missions solo? Ive never beaten most of them before currently near 500pl

[storm relic]

imagine if the reason bungie calls it "gambit OPS" instead of just gambit is because they are returning the Reckoning haha

[raven isle]

I would be fine with that but doubt it

[wanton merlin]

No, pvp would be spammed with it

[storm relic]

ur not fr

[south snow]

I want a t5 scatter signal

[raven isle]

and ?

[south snow]

Who cares about pvp

[wanton merlin]

600 rpms in pvp was not fun deal with on console

[raven isle]

I dont think a gun is what you need to be worried about in pvp

you gotta worry about the cheaters that would flood the game

[storm relic]

gnawing hunger wont make 600s come back especially when we have so many good ars right now

[wanton merlin]

Pulses and hcs used more

[south snow]

Do yall think were getting a brave immortal?

[wanton merlin]

Probably not

[south snow]

Really?

[bold rivet]

I dont think they are adding any new brave weapons

[wanton merlin]

Cs it was only used for 1 season before it got nerfed, then hardly used

[raven isle]

I want a t5 felwinter shotgun

[wanton merlin]

Bring back pre nerf quick draw

[south snow]

Yeah i forgot that was part of into the new light

[raven isle]

yeah thats like asking bungie to remove AE from the game

[wanton merlin]

Whyd they replace quick quickdraw with surplus?

[storm relic]

still mad they retconned my astral

[south snow]

I want a tiered hammerhead

[elfin whale]

Sadly mint retrograde isn't farmable atm, the energy rocket pulse psi aterna is a good alternative with elemental honing. Wolfsbane is also pretty important to get and fully upgrade...

In terms of builds it depends on ur best class

I like running Sanguine Alchemy well of raidience for my warlock when I use finality's or wolfsbane. Also getaway artist prismatic is still op af

For hunter apperantly lucky pants with the special hand cannon from renegades is absurdly busted

And titan bonk builds still shine

[cerulean olive]

Be fr you are either giving banner or you swap off titan

[elfin whale]

Bro the only reason im hopping on titan is to either punch stuff in the face or throw hammers

Same reason im only hopping on hunter to fly around the map like a maniac with my ascension grapple spam build

And the drip

[astral mauve]

can't believe they dedicated a gun to Pete Parsons and the Corporate Suite at Bungie

[civic kettle]

😭

[sage badge]

Journey is such a good track

[lost island]

Did you get the cartalyst?

[blissful scaffold]

@astral mauve

[warped heron]

what's the chance i will be able to get this finally

[south snow]

Good

[charred yacht]

0 probably idk

[ripe pond]

why can’t destiny open on steam

[south snow]

Cuz pc

[frozen patio]

Went to the lighthouse where is my armour glow

[ripe pond]

sound about right

lemme guess i need to close all my tabs and games?

[south snow]

Unplug the cpu and replug it

[blissful scaffold]

Sup

[ripe pond]

what’s ur social security number

[south snow]

21

[ripe pond]

thanks

[vocal marten]

PEAK

[frozen patio]

?

[loud arch]

buhh

[lost island]

is it trials armor? Could try relogging but the trials armor n weapons should be glowin

[frozen patio]

Yeah I’m using the ornamaent it should work right and the old stuff still glows?

[south snow]

I have a better question

How did you manage to find a trials match?

[feral frigate]

is there any staff available

[frozen patio]

I got loads in like 20 seconds

Was playing earlier today

[feral frigate]

person in my vc argued when i asked him not to do something in my raid and then he told me he "beats people like me up for breakfast"

[twilit token]

And how did you respond?

[vocal marten]

He doesn’t.

[lost island]

What did you ask him not to do?

[twilit token]

Tell him to stop hitting on you.

[vocal marten]

🔥

[south snow]

Run thunderlord probably

[frozen patio]

Is strand arbor warden meta?

[feral frigate]

i said im doing a legit run and i didnt want cheeses, skips, or pulls... and he skipped a door and then pulled and argued that i told him i didnt wanna run the raid that way

[blissful scaffold]

@vocal marten

[feral frigate]

calling me a dictator and arguing with my that i wanted my game played the way i asked to play it in my raid team

and is now calling me a bad player

[south snow]

Tell him his balls are small

[past siren]

Are you full Baba Yaga, casual fan, or just here for the chaos? Vote in our quick John Wick survey.
Check it out here!

[blissful scaffold]

Can u see my vid?

[feral frigate]

its J in ftc2

[south snow]

Yea it makes me feel something

[feral frigate]

hes continuing to argue and wont leave when i asked

just said he beats people like me up again

[south snow]

Mute him?

[blissful scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-miku-hatsune-miku-hatsune-washing-machine-gif-4863029126409914383

[vocal marten]

[south snow]

Noo

[feral frigate]

i went to another vc

he followed

i need staff

muted him but he continues to follow me

idk how to block him from bein in the same vc

[charred yacht]

yo

[junior moon]

i think Sol being the main destination of the Destiny universe is intrinsic to it's identity and the idea people have that we must leave it for D3 kinda stinks

i have really cool wistful memories of staring up at the real moon in the real night sky and getting hyped for shadowkeep

[frozen patio]

Where is my trails glow maaaan

[crude flint]

thank you eververse

[south snow]

@lost island help a man out

[charred yacht]

anyone know what is like the perfect vexcalibur perk combo

[south snow]

Why are we using vexcalibur?

[charred yacht]

banner of war idk

[south snow]

[knotty verge]

divide going trough all the phases bro

[feral frigate]

someone joined and is being gentle and tryna help him but J is now being toxic to him too

insulting him and stuff

[charred yacht]

i hate destiny 2 youtubers 🥀

[low orbit]

so how are we feeling about d2 being over?

[charred yacht]

it sucks

[feral frigate]

and insulting random people

[coarse burrow]

the real question is has itztizzle made another video after quitting for the 50th time

[feral frigate]

someone asked him to leave so we can finally play and he immediatly insulted him

[south snow]

Who watches that guy

[low orbit]

im just sad there isnt gonna be a full end

[knotty verge]

bro

[charred yacht]

wormgods banner of war is kinda crazy

[coarse burrow]

LMAOOO

[knotty verge]

we do want d3 brotato this guy stupid

[low orbit]

ill pass if its like d2s launch

[dusk lotus]

Man content creators are shitting their pants, just like DickKackis yesterday saying the petition will work lmao

[low orbit]

i preordered and waited in line at gamestop for that game

[charred yacht]

i mean the launch isnt going to have infinite content guys

[coarse burrow]

5 months ago

[charred yacht]

idk what u expect d2 had a bad launch but has more stuff now

[knotty verge]

bro realised destiny 2 is nearly falling so his career is over

and had to come back to talk about bungie to get any views

[coarse burrow]

"my final d2 video" yeah bro ok

[south snow]

Notice how an actually good game has the most views

[knotty verge]

like look bro

[south snow]

Ou shi it doesnt

[charred yacht]

hahahah

[knotty verge]

destiny 3 tomorrow hopecore

[charred yacht]

they are gonna release the trailer any moment now

[dapper summit]

I mean killing the ip entire isn't something two greedy corporations do imo

[knotty verge]

state of play is sony saying that they threw every bungie higher up out the window and giving them 6 bajillion to work on d3

trust

[south snow]

Trust

[charred yacht]

well marathon probably gotta run its course before d3

[knotty verge]

bro its not running at all

[sage badge]

Me when the world is sunshine and rainbows

[charred yacht]

lol

[crude flint]

marathon doesnt even have legs its doing an army crawl

[knotty verge]

destiny 3 hopecore,tomorrow i will be pmod instead

[twilit token]

When D2 streamers finally die out, I will be so happy.

[sage badge]

Atp we are gonna start hallucinating destiny 3

[knotty verge]

i see d3 store page already

[frozen patio]

Wait for my trials armour to glow do I have to wait til reset?

[sage badge]

I see the xivu arath expansion

[knotty verge]

idk what their plan was with xivu,they built her up over like 6 seasons,and nothing happend

[sage badge]

🥀

[dapper summit]

They did say an expansion was pitched but never greenlit

[knotty verge]

so the plan was absolutely nothing

[coarse burrow]

higher-ups said no, that sounds like a good idea

[alpine garnet]

the fun was pitched too

[knotty verge]

i hope their cars transmissions blow

[indigo breach]

Torobatl would have just been post apocalyptic waste though, based on the writing. not a super exciting locale

Plus there are already like 3 of those

[sage badge]

Completely unrelated to main storyline ball and light saber dlc ☑️

Xivu Arath, major antagonist, hive goddesses of war raid/campaign ❌

[charred yacht]

renegade was good we dont need ta hate

[proper field]

genuinely the worst thing thats ever happened ever is destiny ending

[indigo breach]

I liked the idea of the nine moving. But faceless characters are not easy to work with.

[knotty verge]

i still dont understand eof

[coarse burrow]

u turn into ball

[sage badge]

Renegades was good but how do you skip on a major anatgonist

[knotty verge]

they forgor

[proper field]

i think the ball is the also up there for worst things ever

[coarse burrow]

cloud striders <

[proper field]

the ball was such a drag

[indigo breach]

My understanding is: there is a schism in the nine. They all want to be unbound from sol so that its extinction does not threaten their existence. The group led by VI wants to destroy humanity, the group led by III does not.

[junior moon]

don't know what all the xivu in d2 hype was, she was so obviously being saved for d3

[inner sandal]

foghorn leghorn in the chat

[indigo breach]

Someone has to explain that better than me

[coarse burrow]

i cant i skipped cutscenes

[junior moon]

i think the nine could have easily worked through characters they can possess like Bael and Lodi

[indigo breach]

Now listen here Pete parsons, what I say what in the wide world do you think you’re doing? Buying fancy cars while your studio stands on the breadline. Pay attention when I’m talking to you. All the money in the world can’t buy a legacy, and yours ain’t lookin too good

[junior moon]

i will say the very unorthodox way they talk doesn't translate nearly as well to spoken dialogue

[proper field]

renegades was so much better then eof

[inner sandal]

😂👌

[indigo breach]

I imagine the nine speak weirds out casuals a lot

But so did the way the witness talks

[frozen patio]

Did they nerf point contact canon brace

[junior moon]

i do like that they full sent the nine talking just like they did in lorebook and didn't babyify their lore at all for casuals

[indigo breach]

I actually don’t know if the Red War/CoO/Lightfall writing style lands better than the TFS writing style

[south snow]

Debatable

[junior moon]

i'm ngl Red War writing barely did it for me at all

and i'm not a larper i did play it

[indigo breach]

Right but they’re writing on a higher plane in TFS. Less dialogue that spells everything out.

[tired orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/desperate-attention-tiktok-people-who-be-desperate-for-attention-sighing-gif-16370965302781532502

[indigo breach]

I don’t know if for a non reader it works

The red war had an excellent first hour and then it feels like rewrites hit and they switched to this campy “get the band back together” arc

[coarse burrow]

speaker telling ghaul to end themselves was cool

[indigo breach]

The speaker revealing to ghaul that he had not heard from the traveler was the coolest part of the campaign

[south snow]

Red war was such a good campaign a shame year 1 was a disaster

[indigo breach]

And I don’t think in universe humanity ever found that out

[young wraith]

Have you guys signed the petition yet

[proper field]

yuh

[indigo breach]

Man they don’t let you do anything in here

Every third message gets bounced

[coarse burrow]

lmaooo

[indigo breach]

Posting links, too many characters, saying a no no word with the most aggressive filter I’ve ever seen

[coarse burrow]

i need to go to microcenter and get me a new keyboard :/

[robust wolf]

bruh

my message awas not even that long it was a word over who coded this disgusting bot

[warm crystal]

everytime i log in i get kicked out due to servers, are they up? google claims they are fine but never experienced this in many yrs of paying this game lol just re downloaded it to check it out again and they wont let me play xd

[coarse burrow]

cut it in like half or thirds and dont press shift enter

[proper field]

top 5 worst additions is the text boxes and not actual dialouge

[robust wolf]

dtm destiyn 2 lfg 🥀
I was just saying, red war, curse warmind etc would be praised if it was released with the current or final shape sandbox

[south snow]

Yeah they got lazy

[robust wolf]

and that the ppl who hate on it jus tbecause it was vaulted hated double primary sandbox and batch the content at that time in with that sandbox
which is unwarranted hate

[indigo breach]

CoO had really bad writing. No stakes, comedy that didn’t land

[robust wolf]

the boss was cool and the campaign missions were fun
and the destination was nice, lot of missed potential though

[indigo breach]

Also their demo stream showed off a public event, advertised “huge rewards” and it was 2 mercury tokens

[coarse burrow]

curse woulda been better if it alluded to osiris wanting to find saint

[charred yacht]

maybe warmind, curse of osiris was pretty bad, red war was alright i guess

[robust wolf]

exactly

[coarse burrow]

i keep this one in my gallery

[indigo breach]

It took them until a season years later to do that. When in lore did saint and Osiris become lovers?

[warm crystal]

good talk

[robust wolf]

2 tokens and a blue was again imo like a sign of the times but the demo was funny to watch regardless lmao

[indigo breach]

Man we’re having another conversation that’s crazy.

[frozen patio]

Do I need to be on a win streak to get the trials glow or just go to the lighthouse

[coarse burrow]

plunder??? i dont remember

[indigo breach]

Yeah servers are fine I think it’s a you thing

[south snow]

Last mission was dope

[robust wolf]

it was a strange retcon i think around witch queen but it was executed alright

[robust wolf]

exactly

[coarse burrow]

5-7 wins gives diff color glow

curse had the smallest destination of any xpac

[robust wolf]

If they had the season of dawn stuff as part of Coo and made the mercury destination have past present future variants accessible from patrol
sigh lost potential

[frozen patio]

Awww so I need to win streak to glow?

[coarse burrow]

yep

[frozen patio]

I’m on 4 😔

I might go for the last bit

[indigo breach]

Is there a server where people talk about the writing that has good old red white and blue style free speech? I just got an auto timeout for talking about the nature of saint and Osiris’s relationship

I’m not yapping in here if it’s this restricted.

On the record, the rules are so concerned with not hurting anyone’s feelings that they’re hurting mine.

[fervent veldt]

im fish

[winter fractal]

🐟

[fervent veldt]

🦐

[winter fractal]

⁉️

[indigo breach]

You’re allowed to be fish but I can’t talk about the lore

[robust wolf]

dude i think personally the writing fell off a cliff sometime after beyond light
with the corny year 1 dialogue as an exception, stuff felt alot lazier wq and onwards especially seasonal stuff

[toxic vortex]

let it out

[daring ledge]

coming back after a while, is consecration still ass?

[robust wolf]

yea wait lmfao

[carmine wind]

Dont think abt it too hard

[indigo breach]

Witch Queen had the 2 twists and climax that I really really liked. Hive being given the light and the witness duping savathun

[toxic vortex]

💀👆

[ivory forum]

Red white blue style free speech? Do u know how much that narrows it down?

[robust wolf]

lightfall sucked and was a bunch of silly retcons or plot shoehorns
same with them killing off characters like amanda and rasputin for cheap shock value at the cost of making the world that much smaller

[trail rapids]

This community is going to unite like it's the battle of the six fronts, all of us together against the gathering dark (Sony greed). NEVER GIVE UP, NEVER GIVE IN. ARE YOU READY TO LIVE FOREVER?!

[robust wolf]

plunder NEZAREC TEA was the most diabolical stuff ive seen

[carmine wind]

does he know that means nothing anymore and that the "red white and blue" treat free speech like a cheap hoe

[indigo breach]

I guess UK and USA have different concepts of it

[daring ledge]

bruh what does this mean 💔

[toxic vortex]

RYYYYYY ❤️

[trail rapids]

hello

[toxic vortex]

: )

[indigo breach]

And yeah it don’t mean anything here anymore either

[ivory forum]

I mean france, the netherlands and russia fall under that too

[robust wolf]

yea they were fine but i personally thought it kinda made the whole hive thing seem alot lamer after the fact

[toxic vortex]

i might play grasp of avarice for fun now now, wanna join

[indigo breach]

They don’t usually refer to any of those as the red white and blue but point taken if you’re taking me literally

[robust wolf]

mostly bc the witness itself was badly introduced to the game

[glass nova]

hm

[trail rapids]

doing crucible rn prob another time

[toxic vortex]

okidoki

[indigo breach]

But my understanding of free speech is you don’t get silenced by authority or go to jail. You can still be judged by the public

[hushed grove]

Are all the old seasonal missions returning or is that part of the forever vault?

[toxic vortex]

@undone star

[robust wolf]

we didn't know about the bloke till 2 dlcs before the ending
there was no true darkness race like it was hinted at for years

[cosmic panther]

Vaulted forever with red war and forsaken

[robust wolf]

and they didn't even do anything with the disciples which could have been the alternative for a darkness "race" so to speak

[indigo breach]

You don’t see appeal in the hive taking a bad deal by force and then being forced to kill and kill until there’s nothing left to kill?

[toxic vortex]

bro chill you OCE coming in wiht big boy words

[indigo breach]

The switch from darkness as a mysterious force to the witness as a big bad was probably necessary.

[robust wolf]

and the witness being a civilisation amalgamated into one is a cool concept but it was just introduced too late to have any impact

[indigo breach]

If there was no big bad TFS is not writable

[robust wolf]

honestly i disagree and i'm kinda glad they kept the whole winnower thing around to keep the darkness all liek big cosmic force

[toxic vortex]

do you even play the game

[robust wolf]

yea bro

[toxic vortex]

how much

[cosmic panther]

Honestly i always liked the idea of the darkness being this mysterious cosmic force instead of megamind but they are white

[robust wolf]

no that was cool, i just thought it made the whole books of sorrow feel kinda lame, which i guess was the point

[indigo breach]

The witness is a zealot of the darkness that interprets its philosophy to an extreme. Where the winnower wants an optimal pattern to naturally form, the witness wants to force it

[robust wolf]

My only problem with it was how they went about introducing the witness, if we knew about him not immediately after we learn he tricked the hive it would have seemed cooler and less like abrupt

[robust wolf]

yea same dude the cosmic horror aspect made the universe seem large and mysterious
and after recent updates and story changes (such as killing off key characters like rasputin) make it seem a lot smaller

[indigo breach]

They didn’t have enough time to write anything about the traveler post darkness. My understanding was that the light lacked consciousness and the veil provided it

[cosmic panther]

Also the twist that 90% of the pyramids ships were empty was a letdown

[indigo breach]

So the traveler could never actually provide the guidance civilizations like the witness sought

[robust wolf]

yea and thats lowkey the problem, higher ups pushed too much for it to be out, along with seasons it kinda felt cheap as a whole

[fervent veldt]

🍄

[indigo breach]

But there’s evidence of the traveler having a voice even without the darkness so I’m confused

[winter fractal]

🪼

[robust wolf]

uncle asking this wit like 20 clears pack it up cuh

[robust wolf]

bro ur american 😭

[indigo breach]

I wanna know what they scrapped a year before D1 came out

[cosmic panther]

imagine if they introduced more diciples of the witness that had their little fleet of pyramids each

[indigo breach]

I think there was some plot about Rasputin embodying a kidnapped exo

[robust wolf]

EXACTLY man
The whole thing, just felt like they rushed to do something with the time they had left and really took away from all the hype, mystique and "aura" the pyramids developed

[coarse burrow]

imagine if part of lightfall was manned pyramid ships or even shadow cabal vs last city alliance ships empowered by the traveller's light

[winter fractal]

shadowkeep to arrivals was peak darkness lore

[indigo breach]

I think the witness should not have been the only darkness worshipper we met. It should have been an extremist that even other worshippers did not stand behind

[robust wolf]

thisis what im saying bro, RHULK was so cool and the fact they didn't flesh out disciples more as some ancient cabal devoted to the witness is such a massively missed opportunity

[robust wolf]

facts

[robust wolf]

facts on this too

[indigo breach]

I would have written it as an entity that brought the rest of the darkness to its knees with its radical philosophy on existence and brought everything under its control

[robust wolf]

they went way too hard on the avengers endgame inspiration for final shape. should have jsut stuck to what they were cooking from d1 to beyond light.

[winter fractal]

unveiling is still tied with book of sorrow as the best written lorebook in the game imo

[robust wolf]

i wish it was like that man

[indigo breach]

You sort of see this with the dissidents but some external resistance would have been nice

[coarse burrow]

like some kind of anti-villian?

[tepid geyser]

anyone want to grind some d1 elders?

[robust wolf]

agreed
but some of the dark ages lorebooks are so fire too I can't really pick favourites

[cosmic panther]

Like imagine if salvation's edge was made up of like 4 or 5 diciples fights and then you fight the witness

[robust wolf]

beyond light CE and micah abrams and exo stranger lore was so fire too

[winter fractal]

dark age spinoff game when

[robust wolf]

right
right

[indigo breach]

Calus falling in line makes no sense. He should have realized that there was no pleasure in being preserved in memory and died betraying the witness

[severe knoll]

Hello guys, I know kind of a bad question, but is it worth getting into destiny 2 at this time? Especially with the recent announcement of no more content updates coming to the game, I played it back in 2017 , but yeah that was about it.

[indigo breach]

“Pleasure requires not just opulence, but new pleasurable experiences”

[robust wolf]

we can cope
destiny rising came close,... but its a gacha... and an alt universe...

[robust wolf]

give it a shot during june update but don't sink too much time or money into it

[junior moon]

you have oodles and oodles of content to work through if you haven't played since then

[robust wolf]

don't buy anything unless its like 3 dollars bro lowkirk

[severe knoll]

I guess

[cosmic panther]

The problem is that Calus is selfish coward

[indigo breach]

Lightfall could have been a serviceable story if the focus was on Calus and the Witness’s philosophical disagreement. But Bungie wanted a sci fi city and wrote the story later

[winter fractal]

you got a lot of content to go through but you might want to wait for the june 9th update since they are bundling all paid content into one purchase

[severe knoll]

Interesting, any information about how much it will cost?

[fervent veldt]

rhulk is sooo bad i want him

[winter fractal]

dont believe we've been told that

[severe knoll]

Alright

[indigo breach]

There was one cutscene where Calus criticizes the witness for having all its power and choosing to end everything with it

[severe knoll]

Cause I was thinking maybe about buying the legacy collection thingy I have seen, doesnt include the newest stufftho

[coarse burrow]

yeah maybe letting his greed get him to try and overthrow the witness

[indigo breach]

By the way if there are any experts in here, are there any lore entries that describe Calus’ physical appearance after the Glykon incident?

[winter fractal]

well they also kinda just wrote calus' opulence grindset into a front

[coarse burrow]

could tie it in somehow with him trying to resurrect caiatl's mother

[cosmic panther]

Honestly if you rewrite Nimbus and actually explain what the veil is, lightfall's story is not that bad

[winter fractal]

i love caiatl lore but its unfortunate it also character assassinated calus

[robust wolf]

AGREED MAN
I personally think lightfall's destination should've taken place in the overgrown pyramid mass in earth orbit (like essence ship area) and been more focused about defending earth from... the dread.. but that's an overdelivery...

[junior moon]

besides an entry where drifter is disgusted by his true appearance, there's nothing concrete

[indigo breach]

Calus calls out his wife’s name at the end of the campaign and that’s the only character he showed. As if he realized that his hedonism was never worth being rejected by his family

[winter fractal]

calus lore is unfortunately victim to the witness existing

[indigo breach]

Well… they wrote that cutscene with the pyramids in orbit, realized they needed a filler expansion, and just left them there

[robust wolf]

🥀

[indigo breach]

If you look at the lightfall opening and closing scene there is strong evidence of them being spliced

[coarse burrow]

exactly, imagine if calus was alluded to somehow trying to get enough power to somehow resurrect at least the memory of his late wife back in even leviathan

[winter fractal]

i always interpreted calus stuff pre wq not as a servant to the darkness but in a "yeah theres no way anybody beats that im gonna party instead"

[robust wolf]

the whole calus vs witness philosphical disagreement had so much potential too... but we instead got nimbus... at least keep rohan bro

[delicate sierra]

guys queue survivor on dbd my killer queues are taking forever

[indigo breach]

My understanding when leviathan first came out was “we’re doomed, come live out the end days in style”

[brisk sage]

Lightfall put 0 investment into us liking that guy who blew up (killed too early and without us getting to know him) and didn't understand why no one cared for it

[robust wolf]

yea same

[indigo breach]

Then he decides to take an active role in bringing about the doom

[robust wolf]

exhibit like Z on why lightfall nuked calus as a character

[indigo breach]

I think the devs admitted in published media that they started lightfall with a high tech city in mind, even though no lore justification existed for one existing

[winter fractal]

yea the shift to making him actively helping the darkness didnt really make sense imo

[junior moon]

yeah i miss pre-witness calus he had way more depth

[robust wolf]

bascialyl what i was yapping about earlier, so much lazy shortcuts taken by the narrative team really ruined some characters at the end of their stories. But that's another convo

[indigo breach]

There isn’t really a lore justification for a sect of humanity on Neptune that no one knew about

[indigo breach]

Executives got impatient.

[robust wolf]

yeah bruh

[junior moon]

yeah neomuna makes no lore sense whatsoever

[robust wolf]

pete needed a new vintage whippington

[winter fractal]

we still could have had something like it they just forced it being populated

something something we arent the only ones

[indigo breach]

Neomuna is populated but empty, because “they upload themselves to the cloud in times of danger” I found that insulting

[coarse burrow]

becoming obsessed with his late wife, sending ghaul to capture the traveller, being exiled by some higher council that thinks he's lost his mind, turning to the darkness like anakin

[robust wolf]

which is crazy to me as the LAST CITY IS RIGHT THERE! and we've never gotten a last city map! and we're... defending earth from the witness so make a last city map!!! and... neomuna.. is pretty much a remixed jumble of last city red war final mission + deep stone crypt assets....

[coarse burrow]

yeah that was wack

[indigo breach]

This made me angrier than anything else about it

Like do they think I’m stupid

[winter fractal]

also neomuna is basically just titan/golden age + dsc assets

with like minor tweaks

[robust wolf]

swat im saying bro like
i guess their hands were forced into retconning that but it really soured the ending for me knowing that stuff is just canon

[indigo breach]

Also crazy that neomuna was the last public patrol zone released

This genre of game is supposed to be social and between portal and locked patrol zones they made it harder to meet people

“If you want rewards you must play this matchmaking off max difficulty activity. Good luck making friends”

Disaster for an MMO

[tired oriole]

bro cryo ranked is actually fun because i can Fill a team who knows how to play the game

[versed sonnet]

Ouch, leadership apparently let Bungie devs work on Shattered Cycle and more knowing they were going to end support

[coarse burrow]

if ur referring to RAD and gm's, theyre better off w/o matchmaking ngl

[robust wolf]

this was the craziest thing about portal to me
added on to the option paralysis and horrendously confusing layout and restructure of how stuff in the game was placed, and the convoluted and bad loot system

[robust wolf]

let's just make everything matchmaking off, even old activities that were oringially matchmaking on!

[tired oriole]

dont forget telling everyone that they had plans for d2 for another 5 years

[indigo breach]

I’m saying those activities are for after you made your friends. They killed the part of the game where you make them.

[coarse burrow]

fair

[indigo breach]

Mindless strikes, patrols, and low stakes social activities are necessary

[robust wolf]

i think he's talking about stuff like old seasonal activities and strikes that appear in the portal

[plucky notch]

https://x.com/destinybulletn/status/2058604045116358862?s=46

Destiny Bulletin (@DestinyBulletn)

🚨Bungie reportedly allowed Destiny 2 devs to keep working on Shattered Cycle and future content even after leadership had already decided to end live service support earlier this year - https://t.co/u5JmB2Uy6J

X · May 24, 2026, 5:40 PM

[ivory forum]

Lol

[plucky notch]

most annoying limitation ever lol

[indigo breach]

Like if I wanted to do the whisper, I would start with: Go to Io, stand at taken blight, tell people to join fireteam, do secret, load into mission. Now, you can’t do that

[robust wolf]

relatable limitation

[indigo breach]

I swear I could run circles around the entire management class in gaming

[coarse burrow]

ask ppl in local chat on io

[robust wolf]

now it' s just Click the netflix menu bro
All the charm that made the activity feel cool and that it belonged in the world and meant something is js gone

[indigo breach]

My friend Io doesn’t exist anymore

The social part was me showing people how to trigger the mission

[robust wolf]

"yo when was the last public event

[plucky notch]

unnecessary limitation.. especially if you want to use other emojis or add little side opinions lol

[coarse burrow]

no im saying that would be cool if u could do that lol, just being to ask in local chat on io "who's trying to run whisper"

[indigo breach]

That’s what we had. They had a good thing going

[robust wolf]

yea i can relate i just got my shi removed 4 times because i was
One line too long! Three characters over the word limit!

[cosmic panther]

Bungie higher ups strike again

[indigo breach]

And I met one of my girlfriends on the Elder Scrolls Online. Extreme example but that’s the expectation I have for interacting with people in my MMOs

[indigo breach]

“You make more money if you have happy players that have a good experience. What do you mean I’m fired?”

[robust wolf]

at the very worst case, i hope sony can subsume bungie and keep the devs employed to work on more destiny stuff

[junior moon]

i love how much tower local chat has been popping off with EOS

[robust wolf]

bungie as of current is just a bunch of chuds in suits so
the name doesnt even mean anything anymore

[plucky notch]

this is like EA, Ubisoft and Blizzard all in one…

[cosmic panther]

I wonder what is gonna happen to this server now

[plucky notch]

one can hope man.. the future is very uncertain.

[robust wolf]

slay the spire lfg

[robust wolf]

anything that doesn't involve rewarding the disconnected from reality chuds who gut companies, dev jobs and hobbies for a slight uptick in revenue is fine with me

[tired oriole]

oke time i waited 4 hours for a taken blight public event to spawn On the first day of it being out

[formal condor]

Hi Naomi

[indigo breach]

The executive class actually benefits from stripping companies for parts and quitting before it comes back to them.

[coarse burrow]

hello

[sleek lily]

howdy

[robust wolf]

yea which is diabolical
but this is the same world with the IDF and the epstein files in it so anything goes

[indigo breach]

Capitalism incentivizes lowering the quality of your product once you’ve built up an audience because it takes them too long to notice. Now without capitalism there are no video games at all but its excesses are rough

[robust wolf]

late stage capitalism indicator of the times i guess

[coarse burrow]

what up

[sleek lily]

dying for a spliff

[indigo breach]

Did anyone confirm the story about the managers thinking ToO armor looked too nice and would hurt eververse sales?

Or was that unverified

[cosmic panther]

For the fun of it im gonna predict that bungie is gonna shut down in the next 6 months

[indigo breach]

I think Marathon is good to be honest. I’ll try it when it hits sale price

I just think that should have been a 20-50m game, not 200

[robust wolf]

best extraction shooter released yet

hurt by bungie name + low player counts making matchmaking a slog and comp like low population trials

[robust wolf]

oce arrivals trials those who know

[plucky notch]

true and fair. But what I had been seeing that petition for D3 is pure copium. Like it has 100k signatures. To me personally? I don’t know how that would even helps.

[junior moon]

the death of this franchise can go back to the origin point of the removal of tower soccer

[cosmic panther]

Like i don't hate marathon itself.
I hate that it's 90% of the reason of why destiny is dead

[plucky notch]

what the other 10%?

[indigo breach]

I don’t know what went on at Sony and Bungie that they decided to bet the house on an extraction shooter.

[cosmic panther]

Sunsetting

[indigo breach]

Nothing in that genre became a billion dollar title

[plucky notch]

DCV… the start of downfall. Me personally? DCV is what did it for me.

[indigo breach]

Maybe tarkov is doing 8-9 figures a year but that’s not a 10 year game

[coarse burrow]

real

[robust wolf]

nah the petition is big cope they never accomplish anything
i guess in this case it could show (a very rough estimate) how many potential sales they'd get but nothing to convince executives

[cosmic panther]

DCV could've technically being reverted if they decided to remake everything in it.
But bungie is allergic to allocating resources to their main franchise

[indigo breach]

DCV was a sign that they didn’t get a D3 greenlit. They needed to build a game that could be expanded on without making the content from scratch again

[plucky notch]

yeah, that why I never believed on like petition. I just don’t.

[robust wolf]

agree

[plucky notch]

that’s true

[indigo breach]

Bungie in Court had to admit that red war literally doesn’t work on the current Destiny 2 codebase

How does that happen without you making a new game?

[plucky notch]

If Destiny 3 did happen or ever greenlit? would it solve all of the problems that we have with Destiny 2? this is genuine question because we know how bad Destiny 2 has been for years. 😭

[onyx pumice]

hey do you think if you were to save exotic engrams for the June update, they'd decrypt into tier 5s?

[cosmic panther]

Layoffs and old code probably.
There is probably no one at the studio currently that knows how the original build of the game works

[indigo breach]

If you look at games like ESO, they can expand endlessly without ruining the stuff that’s already in it.

[plucky notch]

idk what eso is 😭🙏

[indigo breach]

They would have needed to set the game up to do that from the start. I’m guessing they didn’t do that with D2 because 3 was originally planned

[robust wolf]

dcv could have never even happened if the execs were willing to dedicate money to fund the dev hours needed to port older sections of the game into the updated engine with all the scripting, lighting changes along with QA done

[indigo breach]

Elder scrolls online. Fun fact that game died in 2014 and is on year 12

[cosmic panther]

3 and 4 technically

[indigo breach]

4 was very very early planning

But at the time the gaming industry was in yearly flagship release mode

It’s only now that they’re shifting to maintaining one title

[junior moon]

the problem with that for D2 is it wasn't created with the base to expand endlessly, it still launched under the Activision deal which mandated a sequel (brand new game) every 2 years

[indigo breach]

A D3 should have modular installs, so anything the player isn’t using can come off the drive.

[junior moon]

that's why with the engine upgrades in beyond light they had to remove old raids and content

[plucky notch]

kinda like what cod did with their games?

[indigo breach]

They had to remove everything they didn’t wanna remake by hand

Which would have been okay, but forsaken, red war, and leviathan should not have been cut

[cosmic panther]

And then current bungie comes out and says that there aren't alot of new players

[indigo breach]

They cut forsaken while there were still tangled shore assets in The game which like huh?

[junior moon]

i think the most egregious cuts were scourge and leviathan because their destinations (EDZ and Nessus) were not cut

[robust wolf]

had to remove -> didn't spend dev time porting it to the new engine because it would cost them more money for something they can't directly sell
they weren't forced to do any of this outside of maybe time constraints with the release window

[indigo breach]

If they came out and said “this is what has to happen, price is 100 bucks” I would have paid it

[robust wolf]

also a side effect of the vault was
the massive f2p offering from 2019 - 2020 was no longer there, so people now had to buy a dlc to have meaningful stuff to do in the game

[indigo breach]

Idk about everyone else

[robust wolf]

so all in all more sales!

[robust wolf]

faxxx

[cosmic panther]

Would have probably caused some outrage but it would have been the best outcome

[robust wolf]

swat ims ayingbro

[indigo breach]

Or if they wanted to charge a sub that came out to $100-$120 a year, I would have paid that. My price per hour would be well worth it

Gaming is actually a remarkably cheap hobby compared to stuff like going out to bars, sports, concerts, restaurants

[versed sonnet]

absolutely

[covert osprey]

anyone know how to get this gun called mint retrograde? is there an activity that it can drop from?

[robust wolf]

you like pick the leaves
process them
and then you have nice mints and then you put it into a pulse rifle and you have mint retrograde

[indigo breach]

That’s why I don’t always get gamers rejecting the 69.99 price point. I spend double that every Saturday during college football season. No one bats an eye

[robust wolf]

and give it bait and switch and make it strand

[junior moon]

i'd argue the f2p offering is better now (kingsfall and vault of glass) but it's too lil too late

[covert osprey]

ahhh I see

[cosmic panther]

It's mostly the principle behind it

[robust wolf]

yeah too little too late. I sorta agree but we had like 3 campaigns and 5 raids back then all for free (i think 3 raids were truly free actually) and the current offering is still not up to par

[indigo breach]

But the standard aaa price when the games vary in quality is strange. If GTA V charges 59.99, yearly madden probably shouldn’t.

[robust wolf]

and if we're gonna factor in quality of said content, only the raids match the bar set by the old stuff. The new light subclass unlock missions are a very funny replacement for the red war if you've seen them

[indigo breach]

Playing an mmo for a year can range from $150-$250 annually. That is not a bad price point it just sounds scary.

Bungie for some reason tried to monetize through eververse instead of charging for what the content was actually worth.

I loved it at the time but annual pass in forsaken year for $34.99 was not sustainable

[versed sonnet]

Well everyone's situation is different so that plays into things

[indigo breach]

So pass + forsaken for that year came out to $90ish

[robust wolf]

u could genuinely farm bungie destiny management mistakes for ages

[junior moon]

i will always respect bungie for being significantly cheaper than modern MMOs

[robust wolf]

and surprisingly looking back it was more valuable than everything that released after it

[indigo breach]

They ended up charging about $15 for 2 dungeons with the keys. And people flipped out. But 2 dungeons is 40-50 hours of gameplay if your eventual goal is collecting all the weapons and so flawless

[indigo breach]

I can respect it too but it’s part of why we’re here

[robust wolf]

nah dawg don't justify dungeon keys..

[indigo breach]

The keys themselves I don’t like. But they could go in the 40 dollar expansions and then they sell those for 50

[tired oriole]

Yeah but if u look at dungeons like raids then true

but also the first 3 dungeons were essentially free

prophect being actually free

[robust wolf]

yea it's just a weird precedent they set with the first three dungeons that felt like a scummy money making move later on when they locked them behind seperate paywalls

which well it was in every sense so yea

[indigo breach]

Where id price destiny in the current economy is: $120 for two campaigns, one raid, two dungeons, weapons and armor sets for each, as well as a round of playlist loot

Does that seem reasonable to all of you?

[junior moon]

i'll never forget them bragging that zero hour was funded entirely with whisper ornament sales too

[robust wolf]

considering that's the price of like 2-3 games
or a AAA release and something to spare
that's an insane price

[sweet lark]

Why would you price it at 120 😭😭

[indigo breach]

The content is more expensive to produce than you might think. I’m trying a model that does not require cosmetic sales to function

[sweet lark]

Just make really cool cosmetics and there won’t be a problem

[indigo breach]

I could say 2 campaigns for that price though

[robust wolf]

i don't like the $$/hr argument for MMOs because you can make that argument towards any game or any product that you'll consistently dedicate lots of time to, it's all about how dedicated you are to it

[thorn wyvern]

fellas, i just reinstalled again and i don't have the newest DLC, what's a good way to grind for gear ? Just portal ?

[austere pier]

i need to get the clan triumph for LW, but i need to check something: can i just do it with 4-5 clanmates if i cant get 6?

[indigo breach]

Not explicitly cash per hour. 120 annually is the target. It would include seasonal content and the battle pass would only be a cosmetic track for another $10 every 3 months

[edgy forum]

Day 1 of hating on marathons awful character design

[robust wolf]

yea or
bungie has reportedly been very bad with managing their funds for a while
i feel like.. yk what neevrmind

[sweet lark]

Yea make sure you get psi aterna

[indigo breach]

But my goal is to charge enough money for the content where only 20-30% of the playerbase needs to buy cosmetics to keep the lights on

[thorn wyvern]

what's that ?

[indigo breach]

I don’t think they ever did that

[edgy forum]

How do you manage funds when your ceo is buying a new luxury car every week

[robust wolf]

fr fr

[edgy forum]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[sweet lark]

Rocket pulse that drops from the portal, it’s a must have

The ceo needs to be Luigi mangioned fr

Just kidding!!

[robust wolf]

idk man i personally think this whole cope with how much they're wringing us dry for a dlc in a game is how people let it get this bad in the first place

a full dlc experience should never cost like 1.5x a full AAA release

[empty token]

make sure to listen to Destiny 2: Beyond Light Original Soundtrack - Track 11 - Reflection
while reading about the end of destiny

[edgy forum]

Holy ugly

[sweet lark]

I think I will cry again if I listen to anymore Destiny sound tracks rn

[thorn wyvern]

thanks for the advice, will do

i appreciate ya

[empty token]

Destiny 2: Beyond Light Original Soundtrack - Track 11 - Reflection

[sweet lark]

That whole game needs to be exterminated tbh

[empty token]

literally best orbit sound track

[sweet lark]

There was honestly a lot of good beyond light songs

DSc especially had some crazy good songs

[edgy forum]

Son 😢 😭 😿

[indigo breach]

How is this then? 2x $45 every 6 months: each includes one campaign, one dungeon, one raid. $30 for 4 season passes ($10 each, buy 3 get 4th free) which include activities and light story, an additional $10 for each season pass for a premium cosmetic track

[empty token]

RIP bungie and destiny 🙂 maybe Halo too

[charred yacht]

i liked remembrance from taken king 🔥

[indigo breach]

For comparison, they charged $80 at full price for edge of fate and renegades, plus rewards passes

[fervent veldt]

wsg gang

[robust wolf]

i just think, 60 usd for the whole dlc ( even that is arguably steep)
and just regular paid cosmetic tracks. Eververse is already prevalent enough in the game, just make the cosmetics genuinely interesting and people will buy them. Case in point, me with the assasin's cown accompanying gauntlets.

[charred yacht]

nothing 🥀

[robust wolf]

yeah which I thought was wayyy too much for what they offered, which was why i skipped out on the year

[fervent veldt]

💔

idk what game to getttt

[indigo breach]

I dont see how they make a profit at 60

[robust wolf]

eververse

[charred yacht]

d2 is the only video game ever made 🥲

[indigo breach]

hmm cosmetics have zero appeal to me. what % of the playerbase spends as is? Or did spend while the game was healthy

[robust wolf]

also dude, they can't be spending so much to the point where multiple millions of sales at 120 bucks is the only way to break even or turn a slight profit
like those are smashing success numbers for most studios

[robust wolf]

Whales i guess

[indigo breach]

At 60 it would have to be one raid and dungeon per year I think

[robust wolf]

They didn't really have appeal to me unless they were earned ingame too, until they released a reaallly good skin that i wanted, so it definitely works

[robust wolf]

yea so like it has been for every dlc

well not every i guess

actually only 2

😂

[indigo breach]

I think the volume of content is one of the problems though

[chilly steppe]

Halo isn’t under Bungie. But Halo is failing pretty bad these days

[indigo breach]

Need enough to last 6 months every drop

[robust wolf]

yeah real on that but at a certain point it's more of a no lifer problem than anything
I guess they could pad stuff out by making limited challenge modes like with marathon and cryo archive

But peopel will still find a way to grind it to dust early

[robust wolf]

Im people

compiler was such a fire boss though

But then you get the hardcore pandering problem which is why i think marathon is seen as inacessible for non dedicated players

[indigo breach]

to keep my attention full time the only addition they need to make is a scoring system/leaderboard for raids. Function of time + survival = points

[robust wolf]

Which is valid, getting the vaults was an insane grind and I only did that because of uni break

[indigo breach]

thats hardcore pandering without screwing over casuals

[robust wolf]

yeah agreed, or some sort of ranked pursuit or goal to get each repeated run

[robust wolf]

faxx

[proper kettle]

Just hopped back on for the first time since heresy. Am I dumb if I buy the dlc now instead of waiting until June 9th? Lmao

[robust wolf]

raid report speedruns only go so far
I think a good example is the nightfall speedrun emblem from before beyond light

Cool thing for dedicated players that loved replaying nightfalls

Or the iron burden emblem as controversial as that was

[indigo breach]

the problem is I dont think they want an ingame incentive for oob or skating

[robust wolf]

actually bad examples because they arent perpetual

yeah

leaderboard is probably the best solution

[indigo breach]

require kill all enemies in instance or score invalid. Best I can do as a quick fix

[robust wolf]

But then again, destiny 1 is still plenty replayable even now

system diff + overall allure diff + core game strength diff

destiny2 got nuked by seasons

everything became temporary, cheap and meaningless

and all ur stuff was either deleted or reworked at the end of the year

[robust wolf]

someting like dat
Im hopeful for pantheon 2 though I think they've made that with perpetual replayability in mind

[thorn wyvern]

so in the new armor system how much stat is considered good ?

[lusty gust]

You can take the player out of destiny. But you cannot take the destiny out of the players.

[wraith spoke]

Losing Destiny has the same weight as losing a pet

[low kettle]

I’m surprised the petition has over 140k players that signed it

[lethal shore]

hey d2 chat

[wraith spoke]

i think its moreso about sending a message than actually getting a D3

[low kettle]

I always knew the destiny community was strong it’s all the devs fault

[wraith spoke]

upper management

the people with the boots on the ground are passionate

i rewatched The Final Shape vidoc and you can see how passionate they are about the game

you need an actual leader for a franchise, not a conman

pete parsons dismantled Destiny 2 for scrap to sell

[paper mulch]

Ya know, the game might actually be fun after the final update. Lots of weapons and armor getting updated for a huge sandbox, no worries about builds getting ruined or sunset, no massive grind, just fun. It might actually be good. Of course I’d prefer if they kept updates but just trying to look at the positives

But yeah fuck Pete Parsons

[charred yacht]

well the issue is kinda like you're not really grinding towards anything anymore

[south snow]

Destiny 2 players discover finishing a game

(I cant take it)

[charred yacht]

welll yea i dont want to be finished with destiny tho

[paper mulch]

A lot of games don’t continue, they just finish. That’ll be D2 now I guess

Just play it for the fun and memories and that’s all

[south snow]

I felt quite empty after 112%ing hollow knight

[paper mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-jack-nicholson-yes-yes-nod-head-nod-gif-17444176260167585294

[dusky wigeon]

guys im a boomer today

24

[paper mulch]

At least D2 is getting left in a state where there is a lot of content. And such a big sandbox with all the armor/weapon updates coming

[brisk sage]

Lemme go take a class on classic car mechanics (with special focus on the location of brake cables)

[paper mulch]

Shut up that’s not old

But happy birthday

[dusky wigeon]

my bad

thanks tho 🙏 🙏

[south snow]

Spoiler alert theyre under the fenders

[paper mulch]

I’m 27 I’m unc

[dusky wigeon]

only 3 years

[chilly steppe]

Pin this

[brisk sage]

[paper mulch]

The real question is how do you put a man who cares more about money than passion as CEO of your company

Guess that’s probably most CEOs

[ivory forum]

Isnt that a requirement of being CEO at this point

[south snow]

That is what being a ceo is

Money.

[frigid hatch]

that's all of them, they're taught and trained to only care for Make Number Bigger

college business classes haven't even been teaching CORRECT capitalism

[paper mulch]

You would just think you would care at least a little bit about your product

[frigid hatch]

nope

they're literally JUST taught to think everything is infinite

when it's the opposite that's true -- everything is finite

[chilly steppe]

Some do, but ol salty Peter cared about was more cars

[orchid mauve]

Lol whole point of economics is that it's to manage infine wants with finite haves

1st thing u learm

[plucky notch]

copium culture is embarrassing

[proper kettle]

Should I be impatient and buy the dlc now?

[orchid mauve]

Cope or just hope

[orchid mauve]

Nah just wait

[plucky notch]

cope.

[paper mulch]

1st D3 raid: Pete Parson’s garage

[chilly steppe]

Yeah, Sony won’t let go of Bungie until they pay their debt, or get dissolved

Btw , MOOOOZZAAAANNNNC

[plucky notch]

YOOO

[south snow]

How big is the debt

[charred yacht]

are u just missing like 1 ?

or do u need all the dungeon keys and such

[orchid mauve]

Hard stuck on the Ferrari encounter

[proper kettle]

Yeah, most recent year. Haven’t played since Heresy.

[south snow]

Ur missing 2 dlcs

[charred yacht]

so u need edge of fate and renegades I guess? if its on sale u might as well buy it

[chilly steppe]

I can’t remember the number, I got too much else in my real life to worry about than remembering a specific dollar amount one company owes to another

[brisk sage]

We're still figuring out the mechanics to open the garage door

[charred yacht]

if not just wait for a sale

[proper kettle]

Nah, still $80 for both

[orchid mauve]

Yh it's better to wait I'd personally say eof and renegades are worth not waiting

[south snow]

Alr mr sunshine and lolipops

[orchid mauve]

Yh you need to wire him $200 each

[charred yacht]

I'm not really sure how its going to work but come june 9th bungie is gonna bundle all dlcs + dungeon keys together into a single thing u buy i guess

[chilly steppe]

If you were to live my life , that’s full of serious medical issues, you’d understand.

[brisk sage]

Damn pay to win mechanics

[south snow]

No need to get so personal in a destiny lfg server, i only asked you a simple question

[raven isle]

who here wants to actually play soulframe ?

[frigid hatch]

nah, american college teaches Haves are infinite, just take all of it as fast as possible

[chilly steppe]

And I answered that question

[raven isle]

i got a code if you really like that game ill give you a code

[south snow]

[charred yacht]

do u have a code for destiny 3

[old harbor]

😂

[orchid mauve]

If we're saying debt is paid off from the amount made from marathon plus some money from d2 taken from 3.6 billion, they still are in like 3.5 billion debt

[alpine garnet]

hi kimi hi

[dapper summit]

To get that code you gotta solo flawless every raid in 24h

[south snow]

[raven isle]

nah

[plucky notch]

Yes I have a pre-dev build code for Destiny 3

[south snow]

I have gameplay of destiny 3

[orchid mauve]

The pre dev code is just an empty python folder

[plucky notch]

[plucky notch]

I would like to have a source code please 😂

[orchid mauve]

There isn't any

Unless we count the imagination

[alpine garnet]

who's excited for destiny 3

[plucky notch]

I was being sarcastic 😭

[plucky notch]

ME!

[chilly steppe]

Here. Here is something better. Source code to Destiny 4. slips folder to you under table

[plucky notch]

gracefully retrieved the folder

fantastic

[orchid mauve]

Yh I was playing along

[orchid mauve]

Sony buying bungie is prolly a bigger loss than concord

Crazy

[chilly steppe]

Hi uchur hi

[plucky notch]

hi vs hi (one of the 🐐)

[sleek lily]

why dont the community just do a pacific rim and make a fan made destiny 3 become bungie 2.0

[chilly steppe]

Hi muzaaaannn hi (one of the legends)

[alpine garnet]

hi VS hi

[plucky notch]

[slender mica]

Yeah they were not thinking that day

[sleek lily]

forgot concord existed

[south snow]

Concord is the reason destiny failed

[alpine garnet]

it's all car collector talent. he can sell sand in a desert

[sleek lily]

saw one ad for it and never seen it again

[sleek lily]

elaborate

[alpine garnet]

hi ace hi

[south snow]

I wont

End of discussion

[sleek lily]

hii uchur hiii

[south snow]

[slender mica]

Kinda crazy they haven’t written down goodwill yet, cuz it’s probably worth over 1 billion of the 3.6 they paid

[brisk sage]

Bungie Golden Parachute employees after they tricked Sony into thinking the company was worth 3.6 billion

[edgy forum]

Fr lmfao they got their asses

[orchid mauve]

May have become a true crime documentary, biggest scam of all time

[edgy forum]

Sony couldn't have done a TINY bit of research to see TFS was killing the final biggest bad guy destiny had to offer??

Corporate idiots

[orchid mauve]

Maybe if there was a d3 with the winnower as the next big bad and that's whatthey were thinking

[edgy forum]

Didn't they shut down d3

[orchid mauve]

Yh

I'm saying they should've seen that and allowed d3

[brisk sage]

The moon on a wraithy night

[slender mica]

No they were too busy making ps5 pro

It’s hard work, making terrible decisions

[vocal dirge]

Hellooo

[edgy forum]

W

[boreal talon]

Guys all that needs to happen is we need everyone possible to sign in on June 9th to the point the servers can handle the playerload it would show sony and bungie that the player base is still much wanting destiny to keep on running regardless if thats keeping d2 semi active or having d3 green lit

I know im gonna be playing destiny for years to come in know I won't stop its my most played game at 4k hrs

[frozen patio]

I agree

Might change their mind 😔

[dire kiln]

I know Whirrling Ovation has a chance to drop once per character per week from the Standard Desert Perpetual raid, but can it also drop from the Epic Desert Perpetual raid once per character per week or is it one or the other.

[south snow]

They havent had a spike in player count since renegades launched

Theyr aah wont prepare for the june update

[sleek lily]

petition for fan made d3

if bungo doesnt pull through

we need a harder pwr grind

[south snow]

Nah

Destiny is bungie

[sleek lily]

been on d1 for 4 weeks now and only gone up 2 pwr

[boreal talon]

Haha yeah lwgot I asked ai what would happen if the player log in for the June update hit over millions of players and ai said massive chaos 🤣

[pine fog]

I’ve never like the power grind it just felt like a chore. I’d rather have the grind for loot over an arbitrary number increase

[viral oriole]

most of us wil die before D3 is launched

most will be dead before GTA 6 lol

[dire kiln]

I mean, anyone could've told you that. Destiny servers right now are handling at max 200k people on an extremely good day, if you go to Millions suddenly that's mess the servers up, yeah

[viral oriole]

https://www.change.org/p/petition-sony-to-develop-destiny-3

[pine fog]

The whole “buy more servers” argument back in the day was so silly

[viral oriole]

supports that link

[rugged flume]

Damn we only get one more DPS meta. I hope they make it a rocket swap meta

[pine fog]

Because that would not have solved the problem

[viral oriole]

be mentally dereange if this server didnt support it

is 144k termite players, why is not 500k like this server, so who are the rats not supporting this

[pine fog]

I’m all for the sentiment of the petition, but petitions rarely work. People just gotta keep their expectations in check

[viral oriole]

better than nothing unless you have a spare £400m to build it

[paper mulch]

It’s a low chance but the petition + logging in on the 9th is the best chance for anything to happen

But I don’t have any expectations

[viral oriole]

we need a rat within sony

[fading falcon]

honestly i HOPE they dont do d3 soon and take their time if they ever do d3 obv

[alpine garnet]

we should reach out to the archenemy

[signal pecan]

I will never buy another Sony product for the rest of my life

[pine fog]

The only way is to convince sony, by bungie and the community that financially, destiny can still make the money they expect

[upper echo]

The last artifact should legit just be every artifact mod in existence

[paper mulch]

Pete Parsons

[pine fog]

Classy restoration my beloved

[alpine garnet]

pete parsons will save us by convincing sony destiny 3 is moneymaker!

[fading falcon]

bungo gonna die

[viral oriole]

sack bungie new dev studio

[fading falcon]

isnt marathon doing worse than expected

[pine fog]

I wouldn’t want anyone but bungie to make destiny tbh. Or at the very least just keep the devs a part of it

[viral oriole]

has less players and d2 and the chimps who support it and slandered the d2 community are now moving away from it

same with the streamers

[fading falcon]

they should doi the forsaken move with dreaming city

let another studio help them