💬destiny-chat

[pure lodge]

🤖

[unborn ledge]

people who post full EV ornament sets in #d2-fashion gotta be a different breed

[sweet lark]

people who post full EV ornament sets in #d2-fashion gotta be a different

[unborn ledge]

[jovial haven]

your ragebait today is so good

i almost fell for it when i came to say outlaw kill clip

[frigid hatch]

i have an outlaw kill clip Solar ancient gospel

[jovial haven]

W

[frigid hatch]

you know what my hunter / titan can do that a warlock can't?

jump

[ancient fable]

recover from a fall

[frigid hatch]

HELP I'VE FALLEN AND I CAN'T GET UP

[jovial haven]

do you think there’s still an archetype of person who makes “titans can’t blink” memes unironically

[frigid hatch]

Warlock players the type of people who slip on a banana peel and call it some kinda phobic for their mistake of playing warlock

[frigid hatch]

Titans blink, they just don't blink with both eyes simultaneously like humans do

actual lizard people in a human skin suit

thats why Bungo won't let Hunter be strong, they aren't played by intrinsically disadvantaged people

Hunter is played by cool guys and dads

[lost edge]

their eyelids close hotdog style instead of hamburger

[last fern]

Are any stats worth having over 100 in PvP or should I just try to get as close to 100 for everything other than weapons and health?

[astral mauve]

why is solo queue extra bad this week

[frigid hatch]

YES

[cloud skiff]

for guardian rank how do i complete 6 gm conquests if there is only 2

[ancient fable]

you don't. not until shadow & order

[cloud skiff]

when is that

[ancient fable]

about 2 months from now

[cloud skiff]

bruh lol

[frigid hatch]

just Health really -- if you're a Titan or Hunter, +170 melee can allow some goofy stuff too

having high Super and Class can be beneficial too but if you run Bulwark one of these is a given

warlocks with Contraverse and high grenade stat are overbearing rn too but Bungo will prolly nuke that in the next patch so i wouldn't get used to it

Glaives can 2-hit KO if you have 170+ melee stat which is why a lot of Titans were using them for a while

Liar's hunters are doing funny stuff with high melee stat too

but you'd mostly want high melee on a Hunter for your smoke bombs

[lost edge]

i still have hope void hunter will get another melee option eventually

[frigid hatch]

real

[balmy pollen]

Quick question I just came back to d2 is this new Trials of Osiris lighthouse farmable like can I keep going to the lighthouse to get a chance to roll the ship or is it still 1 per character per week sorta of thing

[lost edge]

dont play pvp

dont do that to yourself

[frigid hatch]

it's based on your win streak, so if you get a better win streak on any Lighthouse card than what you previously had you get better rewards

[balmy pollen]

so it's no longer locked to 1 character per week I can farm it infinite?

[frigid hatch]

only one reward per win streak a week

[serene mountain]

How do I tell how many invasions ive done cos ive still no idea and no red kyber crystal

[sour ermine]

but you get drops outside of the lighthouse too

[frigid hatch]

so if you get a 2-win streak as your highest, you need to get 3 or higher win-streak on your next card to get Lighthouse drops

5 win-streak = Ghost Shell / Ship drop

6 win-streak = Possible Sparrow + Ghost Shell / Ship

[last fern]

does weapons affect TTK in PvP at all? Or can I just tank the stat?

[frigid hatch]

7 win-streak / Flawless = everything + a Shader if you dont own one

[balmy pollen]

is the 5 win streak guaranteed ship ?

[frigid hatch]

depends, massive Weapon stat makes Automatic guns shred like crazy

[frigid hatch]

no

high weapon stat also makes Aggro Frame Hand-Cannons two tap regardless of buff

[last fern]

Without high, are things still a three tap consistently?

[frigid hatch]

yes

[last fern]

okay cool. I'm trying out 150 health, 100 grenade, super, class

[frigid hatch]

i dabbled with high weapon stat, it's really up to you but i dont aim good enough to warrant it for myself

[last fern]

PvP is the only place in the game that health stat does anything it feels like

[frigid hatch]

kinda, bungie fixed the Recuperation bug

[trail rapids]

bc it is

[frigid hatch]

so Health Orbs are only +70 HP on 3-stacks of the mod

[last fern]

I need materials big time. I have too many builds on other chars, my warlock is now poor

I wish solstice was giving more shards and prisms

[frigid hatch]

so there's an argument that Health actually has a benefit in PVE but you can also just not suck or run other healing options

[last fern]

yeah almost all of my builds out-heal the heal stat easily

[frigid hatch]

i like Bulwark for Hunter in pvp cuz it makes them so insanely slippery

with high Class your dodge gives you overshield

[last fern]

Also, ophidians on warlock makes up for any hit to reload from my abysmally low weapon stat

[frigid hatch]

unironically saved my life a few times

bungo thought ahead and knew we'd try Fortune's Favor in pvp

it's awful lmao

[last fern]

is there a "meta" energy second slot shotgun currently?

or rather archtype

or could i just keep rolling felwinters

[frigid hatch]

unless "FEATURED WEAPONS ONLY" is on i still use my prophet of doom

Mida Macro Tool and the shotgun from Keplar are really good candidates though

Mida Macro has the firing spread of Precision frames but also has built-in Lightweight so you run faster with it out

also has the animation of Wastelander M5 making it draw faster than standard shotguns

Keplar shotty is just a solid Precision frame

Mida-Macro has a dogwater perk pool but it's because of it having Mida Synergy frame

Corundum from Trials new best hand cannon in the game too

functionally it's literally Fatebringer for PvP

but it can also run Explosive Payload Shoot To Loot for PVE

[long elk]

When master equilibrium realease ?

[frigid hatch]

never

4 Feats is Master difficulty

[sour ermine]

4 feat is not master difficulty i'm ngl

[frigid hatch]

bungo doing away with Master for Feat system

[sour ermine]

it's still -5

a few tanky enemies doesn't turn patrol level into master level

[frigid hatch]

run the one feat everybody hates then

Cutthroat iirc

[last fern]

which trials passage should i do for the most rewards?

[tired oriole]

not lighthouse

[tame tinsel]

What’s the most effective way to farm SWORDMASTER armor??

[ancient fable]

handing in cookies

[tired oriole]

best cookie farm is doing the dungeon

[ancient fable]

then shove them in shaxx's mouth

[tired oriole]

best cookie farm is arc kills in goa entrance

u just dont get essence

variks loves cookies too

i stg i gained like 50 levels off this event

[tame tinsel]

Quickest way for essence then? lol

[ancient fable]

dungeons

[tired oriole]

equilibrium

[tame tinsel]

Thanks everyone

[bleak thorn]

Hey guys quick question

Do we know when Raid Pantheon 2.0 return?

[sour ermine]

probably during shadow and order (starts on march 3rd) but no confirms at all

[bleak thorn]

Gotcha but can you tell me what are raid mechanic names?

[delicate thunder]

can we get heat weapons for free if i dont have the fate dlc

[sour ermine]

we have no idea

[bleak thorn]

alright thanks

[ancient fable]

ugh, gonna pass if they come out with another one.

[hallow wasp]

there are no heat weapon outside renegades dlc yet

[lost edge]

lawless frontier is fun but damnnn does it get tough in the later stages

[bleak thorn]

Why did you pass?

[autumn stone]

Hey, quick question guys, do i need to run the full dungeon "Eq" on each character for the exotic farm or i can run only final like older dungeons?

[ancient fable]

most of the people I used to play with no longer do so. Don't want to deal with randos for it.

[tired oriole]

u can always find a group of people before that

[bleak thorn]

you have to deal it with random lfg group to complete a seal title Godslayer gliding triumph.

[ancient fable]

and I said I'm gonna pass on that.

[bleak thorn]

Are you sure 100%?

[frozen horizon]

For the exotic weapon it’s once per character per week, for the taken crystal you have to farm full clears

[ancient fable]

Considering I've only done 1 raid since EoF. Yeah.

[lost edge]

red crystal is total rng from invasions right?

[sturdy lance]

how do you change the difficulty on the conquests up to grandmaster, the button is greyed out for me and i cant change it

[sour ermine]

yup

[frozen horizon]

yup!

[tired oriole]

yes same chance whether u win or lose

[sour ermine]

you don't

each conquest has a set difficulty

[sturdy lance]

awesome

[lost edge]

great so i dont have to worry about bein cheeks at pvp

[sturdy lance]

so how do i do this guardian rank objective

[tired oriole]

wait til mid season update

[sour ermine]

you wait till they release more :D

[tired oriole]

(2 months)

[sturdy lance]

ah

thats so awesome

[tired oriole]

very normal thimg

[sturdy lance]

last i played was like. a week after eof just to do the campaign

[lost edge]

ok

[tired oriole]

guardian ranks have always been time gated like this

[sturdy lance]

then renegades came out and i went a litltle hard on it and now i dont know what tf is going on

[cinder needle]

wont lie lfg pantheon isnt that bad

[tired oriole]

it took me the entire week each week to complete it once

dead chat

[tidal heron]

Is trials still light level based?

[tired oriole]

no

[thorn rover]

we need a role ping for chat revives

[lost edge]

what makes the whirly thing around other players i see it all the time with lightsaber users

[frigid hatch]

Luke's speeder = get

[cinder needle]

Artifact mod

[lost edge]

i figured

[sour ermine]

sword storm combo artifact mod

[lost edge]

bring mara sov back so i can bake her cookies

[sweet lark]

Isn’t she in the ascendant realm?

[cinder needle]

She's too busy with shaxx rn

Give him the cookies to bring back to her

[tired oriole]

she was in eof i thought

[cinder needle]

No

[tired oriole]

ur right it was tfs

[prisma vapor]

Is there a good void bow I can farm?

[tired oriole]

le monarqe

[prisma vapor]

I need legendary to pair with my lightsaber

[pure lodge]

dont use bows in pve 🥀💔

only tuff pve bow is tghoul

[inner sandal]

under your skin

void precision bow with archers tempo + successful warm up

craftable, so you gotta wait till xur or banshee sells it

[pure lodge]

WE yes WE are ALL using non tiered legendary bows in 2026.

[inner sandal]

or vox obscura? idk

[urban compass]

i use one with kinetic tumors and attrition orbs

[prisma vapor]

Any with destabilising?

[inner sandal]

fortunate star from guardian games, but you cant get it rn

[pure lodge]

not that are obtainable no

[inner sandal]

or anamnesis from navigator

[twin bloom]

The one from Heresy which is only obtainable from Xur or you can wait until Solstice 2026 and pray that they re-release Fortunate Star

[urban compass]

this bow slaps and feeds orb based builds like fortunes favor hunter legs

[pure lodge]

isnt that solstice

[twin bloom]

It is

[inner sandal]

o yeah u right

[pure lodge]

lowkey tho just use a rocket sidearm or smth

[lofty arch]

question, does grapple melee go off the melee stat or grapple stat more?

[twin bloom]

Grenade

[lofty arch]

coo thank you

[inner sandal]

wish i had that bow 😭 but its unobtainable rn

[prisma vapor]

Hmm, I’ve used rocket sidearms for too long I need a change hahah

What about positive outlook? Is that still good

[lost edge]

does it create an orb every hit?

[urban compass]

like every 2 with an extra from procing KT if the target is still up

[tired oriole]

i never seen somebody want to use a bow

[urban compass]

then of course using other gen like melee kills and harmonizers

[twin bloom]

Haven’t heard that one in a long time. I think we’re getting a new void auto when IB drops which will be a lot better

[lost edge]

i missed spider hes funny

[prisma vapor]

I just want a change, been playing on and off since release and I’ve never really used bows

[urban compass]

I create insane amounts of orbs and pm have super / transendance nonstop

[pure lodge]

unfortunately there lowkey hasnt been many good void weapons recently i think

[urban compass]

• the benefits from the legs / void overshield

[pure lodge]

unless u wanna use a pr*mary…

[blazing fox]

what lfg channel is appropriate for me to post about power leveling

[urban compass]

the event linear has some spicy rolls

[twin bloom]

Still waiting for a tiered void rocket sidearm

[urban compass]

the void fusion is also not bad tbh

[blazing fox]

with withering gaze🤤

[pure lodge]

linears are ahh and its a heavy

[prisma vapor]

I’ve just got the new void pulse from trials and it’s pretty good but I just want a new piece to play with haha

[pure lodge]

if im using an adclear heavy then im just switching to eager

[urban compass]

ok...

[pure lodge]

tiered stl incan solar rocket sidearm PLEASE 🙏

[spark heath]

in the end, a linear fusion will still be a linear fusion, no matter how many goated perks they shove on it

[twin bloom]

Probably portal-lfg? I don’t have a real idea.

[lofty arch]

ive got like 40 of them

[urban compass]

ad clear is just ability spam

use weapons that give you good orb gen

[twin bloom]

Me still using Velocity Baton because I was a year late on getting the roll

[lofty arch]

at this point weapons are for movement and boss damage

[pure lodge]

linears dont deserve to be good they feel awful to use and create boring metas

[spark heath]

i want to get a peculiar charm cause funni tier 5 but i hear its not as good at making orbs as multimach

[urban compass]

the new velocity baton (whatever the solar one is) is p good

[blazing fox]

i appreciate the help thanQ i posted in #portal-lfg and #general-activities

[urban compass]

its def a good weapon

[pure lodge]

fair i would actually try that out but i hate pvp and hate pulses 😭

it seems nice maybe with destab repulsor

[twin bloom]

It’s why it’s so easy to have double special in contest mode because you’re not using your weapons 9/10 times and are just spamming abilities

[prisma vapor]

It’s pretty easy to get, I got a drop after every game

[spark heath]

well happy birthday cause rn, no perk could possibly save linear fusions, they need massive stat reworks to be viable in the current meta

[urban compass]

this

[lofty arch]

and with the ammo gen with any kinetic specials, its kinda a no brainer

[twin bloom]

We need prime cataclysmic back

[pure lodge]

even if you are using them for killing they have insane ammo econ anyway

[urban compass]

yeah the exotic kinetic heavy trace microcosm is OP bc the artifact ammo perk rn

[twin bloom]

Yes to all of those statements

[lofty arch]

damn kinda forgot about that one

[spark heath]

i still have that old codger sitting in my vault

[pure lodge]

nah man linear dps metas are sooo boring

[urban compass]

its basically infinite ammo

[pure lodge]

best damage meta since i started playing was rockets in lf

[urban compass]

youre talking about old metas that havent been around in awhile being boring

[twin bloom]

All of the heavy metas are boring except for when we had still hunt + apex. That was fun imo.

[lofty arch]

i miss lament being good...

[twin bloom]

Isn’t the go to now literally just Finality + Mint or Psi?

[urban compass]

seems like it probably is again with all the sword perks out now?

[twin bloom]

Too bad Wolfsbane took its place

[pure lodge]

i quit just before tfs so missed out on this

[urban compass]

yeah wolfsbane goes a little too hard

[lofty arch]

really even just the praxic blade

[pure lodge]

take me back to izi gl apex rotations bro

[urban compass]

wolfsbane outperforms praxic blade by alot

[pure lodge]

and double slug/ double pellet

[urban compass]

prob with praxic blad is you have to run a solar subclass and if anyone else is also they are ruining the scorch damage

[twin bloom]

I remember when people farmed nightmare hunts for the kinetic shotty prior to heritage/dsc dropping

[pure lodge]

double slug tractor on spire 2nd enc was sooo tuff

[twin bloom]

I think a lot of special weapon archetypes need buffs to compete with rocket pulses

[lofty arch]

i usually hit 42k on song of flame warlock so theres that

[urban compass]

🥱

[pure lodge]

make fusions good again 🙏

[lofty arch]

im gonna lick your toes with a tigers tongue

[cerulean olive]

Lament was trash long before that

[twin bloom]

Fusions, GLs, Pellet Shotguns, I feel like all of these need a buff in their damage

[lofty arch]

i miss it being the go-to sword

[pure lodge]

true

revert the stasis unstop nerf too to make chill clip useable again

[urban compass]

did a KF on master and cleared Warpriest with a team all using lament for dps

[cerulean olive]

i mean that's not a very high bar?

[urban compass]

it was fun

[twin bloom]

I think the unstop change should’ve only applied to chill clip itself and not to everything tied to stasis

[lofty arch]

im gonna touch your meat puppet

[pure lodge]

yeah stasis is by farrr the worst subclass rn

[twin bloom]

Cause every subclass (aside from prismatic obv) has the ability to stun at least 2 champion types. Stasis now only has 1

[lofty arch]

i only ever use it for movement

[urban compass]

[lofty arch]

🙁

[urban compass]

[pure lodge]

yeah same i run stasis like all the time cos i love skating

agers/theodolite and mint/choir are the tuffest loadouts known to man

[twin bloom]

I want an excuse to use this

[pure lodge]

😭

[lofty arch]

i hate you

[pure lodge]

i still have an old gem in my vault from lightfall lemme find ts

[urban compass]

envious + bns is kind of a waste on specials imo

[twin bloom]

It is tbh

You most likely want EH or something along those lines

Too bad that GL doesn’t drop with any of that

[urban compass]

wilderflight functioned better as a blinding gl

[cerulean olive]

Solo golg I guess

[pure lodge]

4/5 relic from the good old days

[lofty arch]

that i got

[lofty arch]

not shiny but still

[pure lodge]

this thing is never getting deleted

[twin bloom]

Damn it has spike and blinding?

[pure lodge]

its for rotations

[lofty arch]

i still got my 0 light wilderflight

[twin bloom]

I still have mine too lol

[pure lodge]

oh yeah prolly like a 5/6 then 😭

[urban compass]

bad rotations

[pure lodge]

if only it had handling mw

[pure lodge]

*old

[urban compass]

bad

[lofty arch]

mine does

[tired oriole]

i infused it for no reason then deleted it immediately after

[pure lodge]

this was crazy in lightfall

[twin bloom]

Gizmo Weft is just so much better now though but I still love this thing

[tired oriole]

not much different than itl mountaintop

[urban compass]

lightfall was 3 years ago!!

[tired oriole]

slideshot is fun thi

[lofty arch]

honestly if im using a micro missle, its only for movemtn, which ill use alethonym for

[pure lodge]

nostalgia weapon 💔

[tired oriole]

sometimes u want to use an exotic energy weapon

[echo parrot]

Always remember: at least Bungie isn't Ubisoft

[urban compass]

nostalgia = yap

[twin bloom]

This thing was glued to my side even during Pantheon lol

[tired oriole]

i hope the hackers fill me in when they start printing silver

[pure lodge]

let me reminisce on the good old days of fun rotations 😔

[lofty arch]

i also use it for my shatter titan

[twin bloom]

I miss hitting 999,999 on golden gun

[urban compass]

they have all the hallmarks of a soulless publisher owned dev conglomerate

[lofty arch]

kinda curious how a bns rotation would go now

[tired oriole]

i dont understand the issue ppl have with the number change

[lofty arch]

i can understand it, but big numbers felt better

[tired oriole]

its the same number tho

its the same values*

[pure lodge]

999999 was just tuff

and people hate change

bigger number = more dopamine too

[tired oriole]

stupid brain people

have all ur dopamine receptors fried and then u can have opinions on the internet

[twin bloom]

I had more fun hitting the theoretical damage visual cap of 999,999 than I do hitting what? 32-35k?

[tired oriole]

the 999999 was only a visual cap though

the number went higher than that

[twin bloom]

Should’ve said visual cap mb

But yes

[echo parrot]

So it sounds like this Ubisoft hack is bad bad

"Ubisoft was a victim of MongoBleed. ︀︀An unknown Threat Actor(s) have exfiltrated the source code to basically every single Ubisoft product dating back to the 90's. This includes their Software Development Kits, Middleware, uPlay, RDV, etc. ︀︀No customer data was stolen"

[lofty arch]

uhhh bait and evious might not actually be that bad

[twin bloom]

Huh?

[lofty arch]

51k in 25 seconds on carl at -10

[urban compass]

cope

[lofty arch]

same timing with praxic warlolck only got me 35k

[lost edge]

how many credits did the refraction core take yall to get

i got it in 3 tries

[fervent veldt]

not a lot

[lost edge]

somehow

ive seen ppl say it took them 10k +

[urban compass]

doesnt mean a thing when you have 999,999 credits

Ive gotten that core over a dozen times when I was just trying to get illegal armor

rip illegal armor

[echo parrot]

Hasn't that been the go to for the past, idk, year and a half?

Tfw I have to play at least 7 more matches of Snowball Fight

[tidal heron]

Why does the lightsaber not give me ammo in PvP when I pick up a special brick?

[lost edge]

does echoing blade have to be done on legendary like upper hand and hyperblade?

[urban compass]

yes

[verbal stream]

Anybody doing the praxic quest at step 4 ? Okhan19#1481

[cinder needle]

you actually dont gotta be on the same step as someone else

others can complete it for you

[urban compass]

^ I went on a run with someone who finished it and was able to do the whole quest in one run 🙃

[cinder needle]

I did all 4 runs cause we were doing the quest day 1

[echo parrot]

Horrors Least in Avalon...

[cinder needle]

not worth

[echo parrot]

What's the easiest Pinnacle Ops, I have an exotic order to get B+ on 2 runs

[tidal heron]

Is trials still light based?

[echo parrot]

Yeah, but I only have a t3 version...

[cinder needle]

wait for the vanguard alert to return and run that

[cinder needle]

no

[tidal heron]

Ok

[sharp python]

how many placement matches do you have to do for comp now? i cant find where it tells me

[cinder needle]

i think its like 5 or 10

[unborn ledge]

pretty sure it's 6 or 7

[echo topaz]

Replace unbreakable with controlled demolition on prism titan 🥺

[unborn ledge]

ehh, pris titan already has 2 really strong passive aspects

knockout and ice spear

[fervent veldt]

we love knockout

[weary fern]

Discord's finally back up.

[thorn rover]

helloooo discord cityyy

[weary fern]

Discord was down just a handful of hours ago.

Anyways, today was the final airing of the SMG4 YT channel.

[shell garden]

guys i cant type on destiny stats pls help i wanna register

[sweet lark]

/register

[inner sandal]

[fervent veldt]

hi peppy hi alzon hi thomas hi blyss

[tired oriole]

u can do it in off topic

[fervent veldt]

hi lemark

[tired oriole]

hi

[inner sandal]

[fervent veldt]

do you hate me

[inner sandal]

[lost edge]

what the hell are these double cross invasions man

is it like 2 invaders get matched together

love getting killed by a behemoth while im behind cover

evb saying strafe cooks behemoths mustve only been matched against the most subhuman negative iq mfs out there bc anyone with even a quarter of a brain just moves out of the way

[shrewd fossil]

chat what are the main stats i should focus on titan or is this up to the build im running? i was hoping just to max out 3 stats and stay with those.. i dont wanna grind like hell lol

[sour ermine]

up to the build

[shrewd fossil]

toooo many builds out here

[verbal stream]

Anybody running " the way between" quest need? okhan19#1481

[wicked gust]

you can farm for the dark crystal on the one character right?

[sour ermine]

yes you just gotta do full clears

[twin bloom]

It really is up to the build because there’s so many variations that all rely on different stats to perform

[fervent veldt]

i made a grilled cheese sandwich :)

[fervent veldt]

it depends on the build

for example on my prismatic consecration spam build, im aiming for 200 melee, 100 nade, and 100 super

[coral stag]

post

[fervent veldt]

ated it 🤗

[echo topaz]

Doing a solar build on warlock for solo flawless equilibrium, should I go lightsaber or wolf’s bane

[coral stag]

awh

[echo topaz]

The build is the deciding factor but my go-tos are health melee and weapon

[shrewd fossil]

i see im just not a fan of loadout swapping lol so i wanna make a build for each subclass and leave it at that

[shrewd fossil]

i feel like grenade stat isn't important in PvE because of killing ads energy mods

[echo topaz]

Thats usually my line of thinking unless my build specifically calls for grenade spam

Most if not all of my titan builds barely even take grenade into consideration

[shrewd fossil]

makes sense

[winter fractal]

wym

the amount of grenade energy u get from those is tied to the stat

[pine pivot]

solo player here. Every time i try to launch the fire and ice exotic mission on legendary it bugs out and only drops the white orbs on final boss. Plus there are no yellow bar enemy's all red bar.

[fleet dagger]

bruh this did not work

[shrewd fossil]

i think 70 is reasonable

[winter fractal]

yea thats a normal amount

the cdr part doesnt scale past 100

101 to 200 is only the damage increase

honestly i dont think going over 100 is worth it on any stat other than weapons if ur not in a dps encounter

[gloomy plinth]

Kan anybody help me with a boss , add SWE Artin#4705 And I’ll invite you

[shrewd fossil]

im looking for like 100 on health , class and weapon.

[echo topaz]

To add on to this what exotic armor should I use with it?

Speaker’s sight seems like healing overkill so I wanna avoid it

[winter fractal]

if ur not going over 100 then weapons is kinda useless imo cause the biggest benefit is the big ammo bricks

[shrewd fossil]

wolfbane

[gloomy plinth]

Kan anybody help me with a boss , add SWE Artin#4705 And I’ll invite you

[winter fractal]

sanguine, speakers, bracers

[echo topaz]

Which catalyst? I assume burning ambition

[winter fractal]

maybe eunoia tbh

[winter fractal]

attrition

[shrewd fossil]

i might change weapon for super but gear stats are dropping so bad for me lol

and relentess strike too

[winter fractal]

u dont need relentless it has insane total anyways

[echo topaz]

Is it good on wolf? Didn’t know that

[winter fractal]

orb every 6 hits

the tornados tick very fast

spawns a LOT of orbs in nano assault

[shrewd fossil]

i just like a little boost of it

[echo topaz]

Good to know, do you think I could feasibly get the first boss to stay in my well if I run sanguine?

[shrewd fossil]

it would be hard to prop nano assault on first boss is you dont know how long his shield comes back. i would say to have nano assault prop before fighting the boss

[sour ermine]

you're very likely to get launched, run song of flame rather than well

[winter fractal]

you could put the well in the middle and just bait him back into it after generators maybe

but yeah like tizio said i think sof is more reliable for it

i would probably just go sof eunoia

[civic kettle]

if u sit in a corner ye

[echo topaz]

Song on the final boss too or well also?

[winter fractal]

well for final

[echo topaz]

I don’t own that unfortunately, I don’t touch warlock much

[winter fractal]

sof would work fine too but i think ur gonna want sanguine rocket pulse stuff for final?

[echo topaz]

I own basically everything but that

[winter fractal]

you can probably just song of flame wolfsbane on final too tbh

[shrewd fossil]

youll be using song mostly for defense.. it was hard to throw a grenade and keep wolf bane damage up just because u moving too much with wolfbane

i wished wolf bane had a auto lock lol without swinging and missing a slash every now and then lol

[winter fractal]

i could see this being the most reliable option

if ur not super confident

[shrewd fossil]

it is

[echo topaz]

That was the idea I had in mind, my biggest fear is mostly surviving the lightning so outhealing it was my strategy

[fervent veldt]

it IS important

[civic kettle]

depends on the build

[winter fractal]

not really

[shrewd fossil]

idk of a titan grenade build so i wouldnt know

[winter fractal]

i think stats are pretty solved atp for roam

[fervent veldt]

well, no one is really making you loadout swap

[civic kettle]

just run 200 weapons lol

[echo topaz]

The best titan grenade build is dead and rotting atp

[sour ermine]

during song you have 90% dr, the lightning is NOT killing you during damage unless you forget to break hands for the entirety of your song

[winter fractal]

yea basically

[civic kettle]

I've been using it since EoF came out

[shrewd fossil]

my raid teams

[civic kettle]

(I farmed grasp armor)

[echo topaz]

Yeah I’m thinking of running a shotgun to break them quick to make up for my trash aim

[weary fern]

EN ROUTE BACK TO THE HOME.

[fervent veldt]

i highly doubt that theyre telling you "hey you need to loadout swap"

[echo topaz]

I low key wish ignitions damaged hands but that would make things too easy

[weary fern]

Be playing D2 soon.

In like a few hours.

[tired oriole]

i was telling him that

[fervent veldt]

grrr

[shrewd fossil]

true

[civic kettle]

tbf it's nice to have stats for DPS and a different stat layout for other stuff

[dusky wigeon]

go my true..

[shrewd fossil]

a balanced on stat would be nice

[bleak thorn]

Do you like playing new star wars expansion dlc?

[civic kettle]

like most of my loadouts are still made with notswap in mind so the only differences between them are surges

[winter fractal]

0 health 50 melee 80 grenade 90 super 70 class 170 weapons is the ideal setup imo

[fervent veldt]

they should kill last gen console users

[civic kettle]

for me it's been 150 super 171 weapons

coz again notswap

[winter fractal]

no i mean for roam stuff

[civic kettle]

oh

I think my roam loadouts are still 150 171

[pure lodge]

✅ ✅ ✅

[shrewd fossil]

arc roam brrrrr

[civic kettle]

celestial moment

[fervent veldt]

we love celestial

[winter fractal]

i mean kinda valid tbh cause i feel like most activities rn are 9 trillion ads u oneshot and a handful of ultras that you have to chip down

so high super is kinda real for that

[civic kettle]

that or a teammate who has actual AoE abilities just kills them all

[winter fractal]

hunter moment

[civic kettle]

e.g a single consecration

[winter fractal]

consec still goated for ad clear

[fervent veldt]

crazy how consecration is still pretty good after the nerfs

[inner sandal]

consecration

[winter fractal]

just doesnt nuke minibosses anymore

[fervent veldt]

not broken as before but still good

[winter fractal]

like its a boosted ignite its gonna kill red bars still

it just doesnt have insane scaling to oneshot minibosses and champs now

the ignite doesnt get damage boosted by synthos or anything anymore 😭 u can actually just run whatever u want w/ it

[civic kettle]

ngl I feel like pris titan shoulda been given roaring flames instead of consecration

[winter fractal]

TRUTH NUKE

and into the fray instead of drengrs

[inner sandal]

[sour ermine]

pris should have been given burning maul base hammer of sol sucks

[civic kettle]

no

[civic kettle]

sentinel shield instead of axes

[winter fractal]

drengrs is so bad without abeyant

single lash is so bad

[simple owl]

not a lfg but may be a dumb question: should I keep playing on a flawless card with 7 wins or get a new one? sorry i haven’t played this game in years

[civic kettle]

up to u

[winter fractal]

did u get 7 streak

[simple owl]

yes i went flawless

[winter fractal]

u cant reset it anymore tehn

[civic kettle]

gg

[fervent veldt]

havent used abeyant since the nerfs to suspend which was like 2 years ago

[winter fractal]

ur stuck in 7 streak land until the next week

[simple owl]

wait i cant buy a new card either???

[civic kettle]

stuck playing in sweat lobbies

[simple owl]

wtf trials is so weird now lol

[winter fractal]

u get lighthouse loot on every match w/ 7 strea

like its better than if u could reset it anyways

[civic kettle]

ye

[simple owl]

oh okay that’s kind of insane

thanks guys

[inner sandal]

you know whats also kinda insane?

MY MOM

[civic kettle]

[winter fractal]

[fleet dagger]

Did they patch contraverse hold?

[pure lodge]

no

[fleet dagger]

then why tf is it doin 4k in testing range

[shrewd fossil]

what was the website with gear selecting stat d2 foundry?

[fleet dagger]

d2armorpicker

[shrewd fossil]

ty boss

[fervent veldt]

do you have undermining equipped? whats your framerate?

are you at 200 nade?

[fleet dagger]

yea 194

[sour ermine]

cuz the damage isn't assigned to any player, the only way to see that damage is from the boss's healthbar

[civic kettle]

doesn't account for chunking

just look at the healthbar it should be pretty obvious if u land a chunk or not

[fleet dagger]

how much will it be on this guy, this was 3 grenades

it does oneshot blistered wizards but that should always happen

[civic kettle]

spawn an unstop champ

[pure lodge]

test on phryzia

[civic kettle]

it will one tap if u chunk correctly

[pure lodge]

shooting range bosses have 1.5mil health

[civic kettle]

if it moves the healthbar a noticeable amount then u chunked

[echo topaz]

I’m interested in pissing off my teammates during Dps, does breaking stasis crystals add stacks to actium war rig?

Og wormgod style

[cold dome]

I got a Gizmo weft with 100 blast rad and 100 velocity, has chain reaction and reverberation with spike. Is the weapon any good? Or just vault and ignore

[fleet dagger]

nah bro it does 3.2k dmg

[pure lodge]

go off of the healthbar

[echo parrot]

Skill issue

[pure lodge]

wipe screen is inaccurate

[fleet dagger]

which ones that

oh you mean in dungeon?

[echo parrot]

Grasp 1st boss

[pure lodge]

yeah

[fleet dagger]

does twitch bot have cp

[pure lodge]

he has less health the healthbar moves more

[pure lodge]

0-1 is 3 mins bro get real 💔

[echo parrot]

Wait, is GoA the only dungeon with all 3 encounters being a boss fight

[fleet dagger]

is it 1 (M) or Boss(M)

[shrewd fossil]

where can i farm tier 5 gear?

[pure lodge]

no thats warlords

[pure lodge]

neither those are master

[echo parrot]

Okay, so 2?

[pure lodge]

load into it normal and do it the old fashioned way

[fervent veldt]

hi

[pure lodge]

yeah all dungeons except pit and warlords have 2 bosses

[echo parrot]

Pit?

[pure lodge]

pit has only 1 boss

[echo parrot]

Oh right

[pure lodge]

every other dungeon except those 2 have 2 bosses

[echo parrot]

I'd still count as Grasp having 3 cause "if Deepstone Security counts, then the Shield does too"

[pure lodge]

i dont count security as a boss ngl

[echo parrot]

I wanna say "if the health bar is on the bottom of the screen" should be the defining factor, cause there's stuff like Vault in Duality where you're fighting bosses but no health bar

[pure lodge]

if you are not fighting a boss its not a boss encounter

crypt security and fallen shield are objects

[echo parrot]

I sure do love the fact that "encounters" and "bosses" are clearly defined things

I still argue with people on if King's Fall has 5 or 6 encounters

[inner sandal]

GORGON HARPY

[jagged sage]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-sneeze-explode-white-fluffy-gif-15332852748850549017

[jaunty ivy]

This week is impossible to get the mint right?

[fervent veldt]

you can test your luck with hawthornes engrams but besides that you cant farm for it rn

they are gonna bring it back at some point tho

[jaunty ivy]

okey ty

[echo parrot]

When it says "complete all grandmaster conquests", what does that mean (for GR10)

[alpine garnet]

hi chicken hi

[alpine garnet]

hi tofwars25 hi

[echo parrot]

Hi Uchur hi

Does anyone know the influence GR has on loot?

[pure lodge]

complete all 6 gm conquests, have to wait for the other 4 to release tho

[echo parrot]

Is that different seasons or will they add more during, like, mid season update

[pure lodge]

YES i am a game dev from israel and YES i time gate my conquests 💙🇮🇱🤍

[pure lodge]

yeah itll be when the current rewards pass ends

[echo parrot]

Joyous

How are there gr11s already, then?

[pure lodge]

if u got it last season it carries over

[echo parrot]

Oh

[pure lodge]

u js gotta hit it again this season to keep it

[echo parrot]

I thought it reset everyone back to gr5 and reset all the blue challenges

[pure lodge]

yeah it just says you have whatever rank you achieved last season when people look at u tho

its weird

[echo parrot]

Ah

[pure lodge]

everyones actual rank gets reset to 5 and has to re earn their rank otherwise theyll be 5 next season

[paper mulch]

hi uchur

[inner sandal]

[paper mulch]

hi alzon

[cinder needle]

all the gm conquests in the seasonal tab]

[blazing fox]

does anyone wanna try the new raid someone made in halo infinite forge?

[cinder needle]

im good infinite kinda buns

[blazing fox]

dm if interested

[paper mulch]

only lasted 4 years. i hate 343

[inner sandal]

[cinder needle]

its still getting updates like more cosmetics and junk. but no actual content and the last update added basically nothing cause infinite didnt make enough money.

[fervent veldt]

p

[cinder needle]

aint even 343's fault. its xbox that only care about their bottom line

[paper mulch]

maybe they shoudn't be dumb as hell and make multiplayer free to play, 343 fundamentally misunderstands what halo is supposed to be

[cinder needle]

you think 343 made the decision to make it free and add tons of cosmetics that are 20 to 30 dollars a piece? no it was xbox

xbox wanted the game out before it was done, wanted a live service online like warzone, and wanted to charge a lot for cosmetics.

[paper mulch]

im not saying microsoft is faultless, they arent, but 343 still has no idea what theyre doing

its a recipe for disaster

as it has been for over a decade now

[cinder needle]

we cant really know if they do or dont if we havent seen them try without xbox breathing down their neck and restarting the project.

if anything 343 has a lot of good ideas when you look at the 20 halo games xbox denied them from making

[paper mulch]

halo has been owned by microsoft since its inception. i know the gaming landscape has changed, but bungie's games were all better and more successful

and those were all under microsoft

[cinder needle]

343 wanted to create a ODST game similar to HD2, or even a covenant focused single player game that was also cancelled

[cinder needle]

bungies games had issues, and xbox cared less about their brand making money

[paper mulch]

im just sad what its become. it's depressing

[paper mulch]

sure but they were all miles better than anything halo has made since

[cinder needle]

also the microsoft from 20 years ago aint the same thats there now. way more money and push to perform in there than there was before

[paper mulch]

yeah the gaming landscape as a whole just sucks compared to then

[cinder needle]

Halo Infinite is a good game, just had a bad developement due to xbox's push. Halo 4 and Guardians was also due to xbox wanting to make them different from bungies games to build up a brand image which also failed

[cinder needle]

it does cause it makes too much money and people want it to make more and more and they stop caring about making something fun

[paper mulch]

5 actually had hella good multiplayer, that warzone gamemode was peak

its campaign was straight booty tho

[plucky notch]

I mean… $3…? Not too bad.

[cinder needle]

the one where you could steam roll the enemy team by paying for lootboxes? yea fun

[paper mulch]

well i mean the lootboxes part obviously sucked but i enjoyed it

[cinder needle]

like anytime stuff like that exists within the game its microsoft pushing it

[paper mulch]

mostly cuz i dont really use vehicles in halo so the lootboxes didnt really matter to me

[cinder needle]

i highly doubt the devs working on halo actually are working towards making a game that is as profitable as possible

[cinder needle]

they gave weapons too

[paper mulch]

and now theyre hiring people for generative ai for their next games

[cinder needle]

also microsoft.

its why im not gonna buy their games ever again

[paper mulch]

they should hire me

[cinder needle]

like hell look at bungie currently. lot of their issues is focusing on greed rather than pushing for a good game. they could take 4 years off fixing the state of the game. but no gotta keep that train rolling pushing out whatever they can charge for

[jagged sage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618256927188713502/1434224696240636064/01_12.gif

[paper mulch]

yeah, the soul of the industry has changed to making money instead of fun games. sad days

[cinder needle]

Good thing is there are millions of other games that are made to be fun

[paper mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/ado-licking-lick-singer-utaite-gif-12641311016250858371

[cinder needle]

that i do not mind buying and giving my money

[paper mulch]

true. halo is my favorite series of all time though, so im sad to see whats happened

[cinder needle]

like i dont think ill ever run out of games to play

[cinder needle]

do what I did. find a new favorite series

[paper mulch]

i should make a steam folder like that

i have so many backlogged games

[cinder needle]

some of my favorite games out there are ones that were made in recent years made to be fun

Like Library of Ruina, Sanabi, Hollow Knight, Neon white

[blazing fox]

does anyone wanna try the new raid someone made in halo infinite forge? dm if interested

[fleet dagger]

🤣

people these days

[trail rapids]

looks like every single one of my games this weekend

[normal garden]

@paper mulch wsg cadd

[paper mulch]

Chilling, just still trying to find a job, this job hunt sucks

[normal garden]

Wait, navist removed emote restrictions? Cool

[fossil panther]

i dont own the dlc, can i still do the raid

[normal garden]

Always does my friend, always does

[fleet dagger]

Its called ragebait

[paper mulch]

And of course nowhere is responding rn cuz it’s the holidays, so gotta wait till January

[normal garden]

I forsee a job in mid February coming your way

Until then you will be destitute

That'll be $12

[jagged sage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/618256927188713502/1417425226118987816/01_1.gif

[normal garden]

[lilac shuttle]

Is hunter in a good spot right now? I need a second character and know that consecration titan was nerfed...just shopping around haha!

[vocal marten]

Yw for the carry

[sterile pike]

I'd say it's in a worse spot than the other two but there are viable builds out there

[alpine garnet]

hi caddince hi

[fleet dagger]

thanks

[winter fractal]

ᗜ⁔ᗜ

[vocal marten]

Anytime ♥️

[vocal marten]

Hi Uchur hi 👑

[blissful trail]

I gotta practice the final boss of eq more for my solo runs

haven't been doing anywhere close to good damage

[tired oriole]

just compel 5 and do a 6 phase

[fossil panther]

will they have self res for solar warlocks

[cinder needle]

i actually found work at my college. I have faith u will find somewhere to work

[dapper island]

Bro the Lfg is dead asf now this is so sad…

[tired oriole]

use fireteam finder

[paper mulch]

thank you thank you

[paper mulch]

dont worry surely the next update will revive d2

[dapper island]

Everyone on there is an inbred monkey

[dapper island]

D3 is my last hope atp

a fresh start

[tired oriole]

we just had a fresh start

[fossil panther]

will they have wrath of the machine in d3

[dapper island]

What was it

[cinder needle]

i mean. theres no reason to run older content. crafting kind of killed its replayability, and there arent any new players wanting to run it as this game hates em

[cinder needle]

I hope not

[tired oriole]

tiered weapons and armor and 10 power

[fossil panther]

bro what i like wrath man

[cinder needle]

yea no eof was their fresh start to pull in new players

[dapper island]

Raids r still the best part of destiny tho that’s undeniable

[cinder needle]

i want new content not rehashed old stuff.

[tired oriole]

and they said "we will not focus on the new player experience"

[twin bloom]

The next dungeon race will save D2 I promise I promise

[fossil panther]

i want a new wrath

[paper mulch]

and thats the issue, that they arent worth running, cuz they are the best content

[cinder needle]

I want a new raid

[dapper island]

Truly a shame

[tired oriole]

getting one soon

[fossil panther]

yeah new wrath

[tired oriole]

wrath isnt happening theyve made it very clear atp

[cinder needle]

agreed. but like i have my patterns. DP is awful to lfg. I already feel bored of the new dungeon cause its too easy. not much else to play for outside of that in lfg

[fossil panther]

are they bring back self ressurection in d3

[cinder needle]

yea in 6 months

[dapper island]

you know the game is cooked when even the d2 discord doesn’t give me push back when I complain about destiny

[trail rapids]

“we want wotm!!!” wotm comes out “THIS GAME IS DEADD!!”

[twin bloom]

This discord always gives pushback lmao

[cinder needle]

I aint even buying next expansion. im playing what I own left and moving on to other games.

[dapper island]

⬆️

[cinder needle]

destiny 2 wotm discourse

[tired oriole]

ya ok

[normal garden]

we do not care

[tired oriole]

we all know babbles is playing the new raid

[blissful scaffold]

Imagine doing tv on that height

[cinder needle]

I only am playing Renegades cause i bought it before EoF came out. Im not gonna believe any trailers either cause they are always deceptively good then the thing drops and poof its not as good

[trail rapids]

mfs always say they’re quitting d2

[normal garden]

me n you

[twin bloom]

Time to break my neck

[paper mulch]

at least theyre watching absolute peak

[blissful scaffold]

Oh sure but the neck for that? Nah

[dapper island]

Just me personally the fact that it’s a Star Wars crossover dlc ruins it for me immediately

[cinder needle]

you cared enough to reply to show u dont care. I was just explaining why idc to defend destiny cause its kind of a sinking ship for me atp

[tired oriole]

it is barely star wars 😔

[normal garden]

leave then?

[cinder needle]

Idm it. Its not as distracting and feels more like the Anni pack

[cinder needle]

Im still playing the game?

[normal garden]

do they know its always been a star wars anecdote?

[dapper island]

This defence is not valid

[cinder needle]

like ima still farm EQ and play shadow in order. After that its over

[normal garden]

[tired oriole]

i never understood the large amount of hype over renegades im just glad it exceeded my own expectations

[cinder needle]

Only cause ive already bought it. But going forward ima spend my money on other things

[normal garden]

yeah, its been pretty good for a Destiny Expac ngl

one of its better ones

[twin bloom]

Please don’t let Shadow and Order be another Ash and Iron

[normal garden]

[cinder needle]

Kind of landed on mine and I hate it did. Felt like 40$ for a episode with how little content there is. we used to get so much more for this much

[dapper island]

I tried warframe to fill the destiny shaped hole in my heart but it feels like a boring repetitive slopfest

[tired oriole]

did we ?

[normal garden]

dont like it, dont play idk man

[tired oriole]

think about every content drop after forsaken

[cinder needle]

Taken King was 40$, Shadow keep was 30$, Witch Queen was 40$

[normal garden]

yes

[tired oriole]

how much content did we truly get in the taken king in comparison to something like witch queen or tfs

[cinder needle]

You do realize you can enjoy something but still have issues with it right? this is just classic toxic mindset and a main reason I dont like the community.

[normal garden]

17 content

[normal garden]

dawg we dont care

[cinder needle]

then stop responding

"we dont care" "i said we dont care" "stop playing the game we dont care"

[normal garden]

you quit responding

[cinder needle]

womp womp womp

[tired oriole]

he didnt say he did t care tho #owned

[pure lodge]

at the end of the day we all love destiny 2 and we all agree that it has 0 flaws and 0 issues

[normal garden]

true... banished to 30 minutes farming warframe relics

[pure lodge]

😄💜❤️‍🩹

[cinder needle]

It felt like more, strikes, crucible maps and game modes, raid. Shadow keep launched with a season even tho it was kind of mid.

i even feel like Revenant had more to physically do. Story content, 3 modes, plenty of new guns, a entirely new dungeon

[dapper island]

The quality of the content matters more than how much of it there is imho, we’ve had a endless supply of seasonal missions from each season but I have never bothered with them cos they all feel boring and pointless to me whilst one good raid is hours and hours of fun with usually good loot

[tired oriole]

i like the dungeon a loy

[dapper island]

Yeah and dungeons

[cinder needle]

Even then. Renegades felt on par with past seasonal content. none of it felt exceptionally better or that much different

[tired oriole]

first time ive liked a dungeon since like spire came out

[paper mulch]

anyone else feel like story is the least important thing in d2

[tired oriole]

i like the story

[cinder needle]

its legit just RoN. and I kind of believe you say that cause u solo flawlessed it. Which i get and could see a reason to like it.

[dapper island]

Depends, at some points we see glimpses of awesome sci if cosmic horror story telling and it’s awesome

[cinder needle]

The Story has been the main reason I play destiny, and has been what makes the raids so good is getting the context behind the fights there are

[tired oriole]

how is it like ron?

[dapper island]

Yeah I’m saying fr fr

[cinder needle]

Short, Easy, and kind of braindead

[pure lodge]

yeah its the first dungeon where they didnt just fuh about and add an extra 100k to the bosses healthpools for funsies

[cinder needle]

we had Vespers just last year

[pure lodge]

which i appreciate

[dapper island]

Destiny 2 story has so much potential but I don’t think it gets used well

[cinder needle]

yea. glad they're moving from that. just the mechanics are really dissapointing

[pure lodge]

eh idk dungeons are meant to be simple

[cinder needle]

I think it does. just in lore books and never ingame cause mass appeal

[tired oriole]

dungeons arent supposed to be super evil mini raids though...

[cinder needle]

we had vespers host last year.

[pure lodge]

i would much rather we get simple dungeons like this then get sundered doctrine part 2

[jagged sage]

Cuz destiny players have the attention span of dirt

[dapper island]

Elden ring has a deep lore and story not directly told to the player in big exposition dumps and it’s very popular

[cinder needle]

Im comparing the dungeon to other dungeons. EQ has the mechanical depth of something like Pit or Shattered Throne

[pure lodge]

every dungeon after spire has had awful replayability

except eq ofc

[fossil panther]

hunters are weak every season

[tired oriole]

ur comparing a good dungeon to a good dungeon and calling it bad ☹️

[cinder needle]

Yea but like. Warlords, Vespers, stuff like that aint really on par with SD

[tired oriole]

and eq is definitely more like warlords or prophecy!

[pure lodge]

what does this have to do with my message

[fossil panther]

nothing it was for dramatic effect

[cinder needle]

It was good for its time. But they gotta keep doing better than the previous not go back on it. This is the last dungeon we will see for a entire year and it was a very lackluster release

[pure lodge]

i didnt rlly like warlords the bosses are annoying to one phase in lfg and same problem with vespers

[alpine garnet]

tlord

[dapper island]

prophecy is the best dungeon

[tired oriole]

welp thats ur opinion i think dungeons should be easier than raids and not on par

[pure lodge]

idk its been the funnest to farm since spire

[cinder needle]

Idm them being harder to 1 phase. like i want a boss I feel like i gotta actually try to do good on. both bosses are push overs rn

[pure lodge]

i alr have 36 clears of eq and i have had more fun than the 20ish i have of warlords

[cinder needle]

Again not asking for that nor have I said that. I want dungeons to be on par with other dungeons. Not constantly go 3 steps forward 2 steps back every year

[sweet lark]

Bro likes finishing fast

[alpine garnet]

gotd is peak, every dungeon should be like gotd

[pure lodge]

bosses being an 80 million phase in lfg makes replayability alot worse tho

[cinder needle]

no

[pure lodge]

w ragebait ❤️‍🩹

[tired oriole]

we are all 3 phasing when they nerf weaken nades

[pure lodge]

nah these bosses are easy to grapple and only have like 120k health anyway

you could 2 phase blindfolded in lfg

[cinder needle]

Im not asking for more health. Im asking for the dungeon mechanics to not be a pushover and for bosses to not just stand there and die in 15 seconds. You can make dungeons harder by adding more to them.

[paper mulch]

encounters are fun as hell but i wish it didnt take a year between each encounter

[cinder needle]

yea no the swim mechanics are awful and i hate them

[pure lodge]

less simple mechanics usually lead to a dungeon being more annoying to farm so i disagree

[spiral grove]

renegades has as much content as witch queen

[pure lodge]

atleast 0-1 and 2-3 arent bad

they coulda made ts worse

[tired oriole]

dont say that

[paper mulch]

1-2 takes like 20 minutes

[pure lodge]

yeah im lwk giving them ideas

[cinder needle]

1 activity and 5 campaign missions compared to 1 new activity, 8 campaign missions, 2 new strikes, more exotics, oh and we got a raid with 2 dungeons after

[pure lodge]

what if we had a dungeon where the 0-1 was from vow

the 1-2 was from ghosts

and whats an aids 2-3

well not aids just really long and boring

[echo parrot]

:3

[tired oriole]

ron with invis walls

[cinder needle]

we're never gonna agree on things with this game. You want it to be Speedrunner friendly and easy so you can clear things faster. I want things to be enjoyable to play and not mindnumbingly boring. 2 different audiences

[spiral grove]

witch queen didnt have any dungeons, and only had one strike
renegades has two activities that have 10x the depth and are more expansive than witch queen's activities

witch queen didnt have an exotic mission

[tired oriole]

witch queen had dungeons !!

[spiral grove]

nope, that was the dungeon key

[tired oriole]

2 dungeons 2 raids

blahh

[cinder needle]

Lightblade and Birthplace of the Vile were 2 strikes, parasyte and dead messenger were in witch queen, the dungeons released the same year apart of that expansion cycle

[spiral grove]

which was 50% the cost of the expansion

[pure lodge]

once you get more than 10 clears of a dungeon with irritating mechanics and annoying boss health it becomes mind numbingly boring anyway

[pure lodge]

2 of the best dungeons oat too btw.

[fossil panther]

yeah wrath and light fall

[cinder needle]

would rather the one that doesnt get boring after a few clears

[pure lodge]

best dungeon + a top 4 dungeon in the same bundle is tuffy

[tired oriole]

thats all of em

[spiral grove]

thats extremely bad faith to include multiple dlcs in comparison to one smaller, biannual dlc

[tired oriole]

i have a few clesrs on every dungeon and it gets boring every time

[pure lodge]

everything does

[spiral grove]

witch queen activities sucked so badly

[pure lodge]

i have 1 lw clear and thats widely considered to be one of the best raids i found that boring

[cinder needle]

My argument is they cost the same. EoF and Renegades is 80$ for that i could've bought Witchqueen which had 1 raid 2 dungeons and 4 seasons. instead im paying 80$ for 4 seasons

[pure lodge]

i have 60 ron clears and i have more fun in that

[tired oriole]

ron is kinda fun

[spiral grove]

the witch queen ultimate edition was 100 dollars

[quaint hollow]

i like edge 😋

[tired oriole]

dont forget that you payed for 2 dlcs

[tired oriole]

with. queen was 1 dlc

eof is trash

[cinder needle]

It wasn't price hike was with Lightfall Witchqueen was 80$

[paper mulch]

guys guys guys, we all have our tastes

[tired oriole]

technically this yesr has more content than any prior year

[pure lodge]

year of prophecy was on sale for like £40 at one point thats much better value than wq

[tired oriole]

just boring bad content

[spiral grove]

it wasnt really a price hike, they just included the cost of the current season in the dlc, lightfall gave u the current season as well as the dlc

[cinder needle]

Yea after what EoF had already released and past the point u can reasonably lfg for it

[spiral grove]

witch queen + risen was the same cost as lightfall + defiance

[cinder needle]

It was a price hike cause it went up in value. they even continued to charge 50$ after the expansion ended

[pure lodge]

i guess you cant lfg for dp? 😭

[quaint hollow]

edge on top

[cinder needle]

It was 40$ the season was for free.

[quaint hollow]

best raid in game

[tired oriole]

i love being a top 600 guardian

[quaint hollow]

only close one is ron

pre dsm

[cinder needle]

Cause if you were to buy the game now. You'd have to find a sherpa which very rarely are in lfg now cause the game is in low pop stage rn

[pure lodge]

ron best raid but ok…

[quaint hollow]

not anymore lmao

[tired oriole]

/population analytics

[spiral grove]

risen and defiance were not free

[pure lodge]

no one sherpas anyway its almost 2026

[lost edge]

dsc is the best

imo

[tired oriole]

they should start

[spiral grove]

after the expansion cycle ended they added it to the legacy collection where it was valued at like 10 dollars

[cinder needle]

if you bought WQ for 40$ you got the season free with it. cause it was included in the $) purchase.

[tired oriole]

w

[pure lodge]

you just load in and larp as if you kwtd or watch a guide like a normal person

[twin bloom]

The real question, what seasonal weapon set do you all think was the absolute worst?

[gray widget]

Noooooob

[pure lodge]

deep

[spiral grove]

not true, i literally got the witch queen standard edition and dont own the season

[tired oriole]

i larp as
if i kwtd cuz my stats give me that privilege 😛

[ancient fable]

hunt

[cinder needle]

crazy. and so will renegades next year. whats ur point. Talking about my perspective at that rate might as well drop D2 for 8 years for them cheap dlcs

[lost edge]

commemoration from dsc is one of the best weapons of all time

[quaint hollow]

its almost objectively splicer

[cinder needle]

Well i bought it and had it so ur lying at that point

[pure lodge]

machine gun…. 🤢

[twin bloom]

I personally say Witch was pretty bad. At least deep had the shotty

[plush jetty]

witch

[quaint hollow]

wait no which season was ketchcrash

[paper mulch]

DSC best raid and I will die on that hill

[lost edge]

18/plunder

[paper mulch]

Plunder

[pure lodge]

forgot witch dropped wtf

[quaint hollow]

it wasnt splicer it was the ketchcrash season

[spiral grove]

plunder

[orchid quartz]

Does the lighthouse chest guarantee a trials shader if I'm missing shaders?

[quaint hollow]

yeah that was far and away the worst seasonal weapon set

[ancient fable]

what weapons were those?

[paper mulch]

Ketchcrash was a fun gamemode tho

[pure lodge]

plunder had a stl ep scout and the first voltshot primary

[twin bloom]

Plunder was pretty bad yeah

[pure lodge]

witch and deep had like nothing

[pure lodge]

eremite and stuff

[twin bloom]

Witch had Eremite and Deep had the Shotty ig

[lost edge]

plunder had some of the ugliest guns ever

[quaint hollow]

deep had until its return and witch had eremite which was good back then

[spiral grove]

i have like 145 hours during plunder and didnt buy the season

[pure lodge]

there was an awful rocket and machine gun and sniper too

[paper mulch]

retrofit escapade

[twin bloom]

I miss when voltshot was tied to the weapon archetype. It made the neomuna fusion so good

[lost edge]

SERAPH SEASON MENTIONED

[quaint hollow]

and the scout is a nonfactor we already had stocato

[paper mulch]

seraph had some peak weapons

[plush jetty]

so underrated

[pure lodge]

im taking stl ep scout over eremite 9 times out of 10

[pure lodge]

better frame

[plush jetty]

seraph had goated weapons and a goated dungeon

[pure lodge]

also craftable

[twin bloom]

Haunted was pretty good weapon wise

[ancient fable]

so many craftable weaons..and I only really use the exotics.

[quaint hollow]

yeah but like none of that matters 😭

its just stl ep

[pure lodge]

calus minitool was so tuff

[plush jetty]

yeah haunted was good

[quaint hollow]

sidegrade vs actual bis when they dropped

[spiral grove]

do you guys prefer more legendary weapon types like how it is now vs more exotic weapons like how it used to be

[tired oriole]

renegades is top 5 dlc

[plush jetty]

eh debatable

it's all personal opinion though

[lost edge]

haunted is an a+ for me just because they gave me the ability to get my outlaw/rampage austringer back

[tired oriole]

at least top 8

[plush jetty]

yeah it's top 7

[pure lodge]

lf top 5 yall aint ready for that convo yet tho..

[twin bloom]

I think Splicer when it debuted was good

Ignition Code, Chroma Rush.

[plush jetty]

BEEN SAYING THIS EVER SINCE LF CAME OUT

[tired oriole]

lemark is top 5 yarrlready know

[pure lodge]

mhm

[cinder needle]

nvm i stand corrected. But still. I dont believe renegades is worth it at all. and thats just how I feel about it. At the end of the day it doesnt really matter cause "no one cares, dont like it just stop playing it" yada yada yada.

[lost edge]

i loved vex override

[quaint hollow]

lightfall top 3

[pure lodge]

lightfall was criminally overhated

[paper mulch]

Seraph made DSC weapons craftable too, too good

[tired oriole]

lightfall was a bad dlc with good seasons

[plush jetty]

yeha

[pure lodge]

thats not that crazy to say…

[paper mulch]

Lightfall is like Borderlands 3. Story sucked but gameplay was good

[winter fractal]

lightfall wasnt even a bad dlc its just that the plot made no sense

[twin bloom]

Lightfall gave us Into the Light

[quaint hollow]

tfs forsaken lightfall top 3

[winter fractal]

like the gameplay was perfectly fine in the lightfall campaign

[plush jetty]

into the light top 2 major updates and it ain't one

[spiral grove]

thats fair. i feel like renegades has more value than the majority of other expansions because ive already played renegades like quadruple the time ive played witch queen or lightfall

[tired oriole]

most balanced year