💬destiny-chat

[cursive pelican]

nobody cares about destiny

[mint berry]

I care

[tired oriole]

so do i

[mint berry]

So anyway back to PVP

[charred yacht]

I care

[frigid magnet]

Because he said he's bad at pvp, so he has a better time what is not clicking

[mint berry]

See one and a half Men care

[charred yacht]

kinda

[mint berry]

[normal garden]

I love D2!

[quartz condor]

The rewards of the Lighthouse Passage even If He only gets a 2 game win Streak is Higher tho

[mint berry]

I wouldn't take it that far

[cursive pelican]

predator?

[mint berry]

Have you clicked it

[acoustic cove]

i went on a 5 streak and got 3 t5 drops

[mint berry]

Have you read my bio

[acoustic cove]

7 is probably 4 give or take

[mint berry]

👀

[quartz condor]

Dont need to

[mint berry]

Lol

[frigid magnet]

I got 1 burden of guilt, 1 lmg on a 7 streak passage today

[quartz condor]

I dont Take Indians serious sry bro

[mint berry]

Crazy

[normal garden]

hop on in chat, lets watch Hannibal

[quartz condor]

Wait what? I got 2 armor and 2 Weapons + extras

[normal garden]

@tired oriole Its scary! I need holding!

[frigid magnet]

yea 2 armor 2 weapon for some reason they were 471 instead of pinnacle

[tired oriole]

did u say trials cuz i just turned zbox off

[acoustic cove]

brodie dug into the dumpster at the lighthouse for the fusion and lmg

[frigid magnet]

Idk how anything works anymore

[acoustic cove]

chest is at the middle bro

[quartz condor]

Mhm OK i got pinnacles from it .. maybe bugged idk

[frigid magnet]

I was already on 471 and the drops I got from the chest were 471 😍

[quartz condor]

Was it your Second weekly flawless maybe?

[tired oriole]

why would flawless drop powerful loot

(bc it should)

[acoustic cove]

i wanna reroll my ticket to go for flawless but idk if the trials reward mult means anything when my crucible rank is max

[frigid magnet]

I am not that good bro barely scrapped together this one

[charred yacht]

goat

[quartz condor]

Me neither but you only need 7 wins in total Not at once xD so its fine

[acoustic cove]

legend 3 max is like 1.25 mult

[cursive pelican]

buhh

[frigid magnet]

oh nah I went for the streak not the wins

[normal garden]

chat

was One two punch disabled before an hour ago or am i tripping

[acoustic cove]

yes

[charred yacht]

its disabled for the race

[acoustic cove]

its been on the list since they posted it

[quartz condor]

Fair enough, did too but i am fine with a 5 Streak tbh

[normal garden]

I was meaning for the race, ig i just dont remember reading it

[quartz condor]

Yeah it was on the list

[normal garden]

Who's gonna tell them 💔

[frigid magnet]

me too, yea, after 5 wins I usually tend to run into extra mega sweaty people

[acoustic cove]

yea its still been on the list since they posted it

[cursive pelican]

ISTG TWITCH!

[quartz condor]

I think you Match people based on your Streak or wins on the Card, atleast feels Like it

[torn ridge]

wheres the free emblem at ? cant find it in collections ?

[tough sable]

console is beyond free

[acoustic cove]

might reset my card

may as well

[frigid magnet]

My esteemed brother I am ass

[tough sable]

i wish i could play trials without rebuying dumbass dlcs

[acoustic cove]

nah trials being locked behind dlc is kinda the better option

[tough sable]

Goated with the sticks fr

[frigid magnet]

And every week it's the same exact 7-8 people I run into

[quartz condor]

Imagine dlcs would be keyed to your ACC instead of plattform

[tough sable]

Dude i play like gernader jake iFrostbolt terror like i hate pc pool

[tough sable]

Pvp would be ruined eith cheaters unfortunately

[frigid magnet]

I play with my feet

[quartz condor]

Why tho? You still have to buy it for each Account you use

[mint berry]

Rehab was supposed to be a fresh start

[quartz condor]

Thats a talent

[acoustic cove]

they mean if it was tied to your bungie acc instead of xbox/ps/epic/steam

[frigid magnet]

Got da big toe on da X 😍

[cursive pelican]

Rehab ye

[tough sable]

if crucible was allowed to be played without dlcs it would be insane cheats

[quartz condor]

This

[charred yacht]

bro are they not streaming the race on youtube

[tough sable]

i get u but yea

[pliant parrot]

gotta get that twitch money

[frigid magnet]

If I play D2 on a steam deck do I get console or pc lobby

[acoustic cove]

all theyd really need to do is revoke eof access lmao

[quartz condor]

No i meant you Had to buy dlcs but If you buy them once you can Play them on any plattform

[lapis grail]

People simply do not know there’s no joining in progress for GM/ultimate activities yet

[acoustic cove]

thatd be funny in a weird way

[stark relic]

they were

[lapis grail]

my teammates left me on a behemoth

[tough sable]

I wish bro

[charred yacht]

ok cbgray is streaming it

[stark relic]

probably waiting for it to start start now

[charred yacht]

wacky

i hate twitch so much godbless 🙏

[acoustic cove]

race sounds cool but i aint watchin allat

[quartz condor]

Are the Servers online again?

[acoustic cove]

yes

im about to go into trials again

[charred yacht]

just tune in towards the end its so 🔥

[quartz condor]

Thx, yeah same

[frigid magnet]

I feel like my team might be able to finish top 15

[quartz condor]

Go get that bread

[charred yacht]

u got the RTA tag I believe it

i wonder if its just gonna be like 5 tcrash titans and 1 well

[tough sable]

sable is Api

[frigid magnet]

Jarvis start digging in yo butt

[frigid magnet]

cannot disable big sable

[charred yacht]

jarvis bring the destiny 2 servers offline

all the streamers arent using the overlay BAN THEM!!!

[woven snow]

@raven mountain wtf

[tired oriole]

u clearing

[charred yacht]

holy this looks so EPIC

[tired oriole]

i bet it looks normal!

[charred yacht]

its looks completely different unironically

[tired oriole]

ok i'll load in

[tardy crypt]

@tulip halo whos streaming

[tough sable]

icl 😴

[charred yacht]

getting some flashbacks from the first contest mode 😰

[cursive pelican]

lool

[charred yacht]

bro what the

getting tped into the hydra side rooms during dps wtfff

[cursive pelican]

Bro

lool imagine

[charred yacht]

this looks crazy wtff

[fast frost]

there's another raid race today?

[charred yacht]

the epic raid

[cursive pelican]

Ye

[charred yacht]

bro llama's team is cooking

[fringe cloud]

not 100% sure but i think this raid already came out

[cursive pelican]

It’s gonna be a snoozefest

[charred yacht]

its like prestige levi

each encounter has new mechanics

[cursive pelican]

bro

[fringe cloud]

man

[lost edge]

why did we wait 2 and a half months for the same raid to be released again

[fringe cloud]

they've really run out of ideas huh

[charred yacht]

its cooler than the master mode stuff to be fair

[cursive pelican]

Wheres wrath?!

[fringe cloud]

where it belongs

[cursive pelican]

WRATH OF THE MACHINE BUNGIE WHERE US IT?!

[charred yacht]

bro i cant fathom how they just instantly figured out all the mechanics for the hydra

[cursive pelican]

BUNGIE SIVA SUBCLASS WHEN?!

[charred yacht]

looked incomprehensible

[cursive pelican]

Why are we raiding the same raid again?

[fringe cloud]

that's how the game works

[cursive pelican]

Surely there wont be cheaters

[devout raft]

25k player count at the start of the raid race 😹 😹

[fringe cloud]

does anyone even care at this point

[charred yacht]

i like watching the stream

[fringe cloud]

wrong

[charred yacht]

its pretty EPIC

the hydra has a giant laser beam now

[frigid magnet]

niponk

[cursive pelican]

oh you enjoy watching blocked streams?

[charred yacht]

i think bungie has rules about what u can block now

literally how

[fringe cloud]

yep

[cursive pelican]

Wait til they break the rules

Just watch

[charred yacht]

true

[cursive pelican]

im the monkey and the entire destiny community is the lion

[charred yacht]

already 1 encounter clear crazyyy

[chilly shadow]

why do some old exotics have the blue tag and not others?

[charred yacht]

rip

[cursive pelican]

[charred yacht]

dude thats fcked some guy got dced right as their team cleared the encounter

bungie servers are so epic

[twin bloom]

What enc got cleared?

[charred yacht]

hydra llama's team did it

[tired oriole]

its a seasonal Buff

[frank barn]

does anyone know what the contest mode power level differential is?

[charred yacht]

-40? idk

[zinc jetty]

lmao a team already cleared epoptes

26 minutes first encounter cleared, gonna be such a quick raid race

[coral tundra]

Is the epic raid the same 💩? Hahaha

[ripe pond]

apparently hydra has 0 changes if they finish it that fast

[hoary plover]

Featured exotics. They are considered new gear and give associated score boosts and can be used for conquests and other activities with new gear restrictions

[charred yacht]

hydra had a bunch of changes

[cursive pelican]

still larping is crazy

[ripe pond]

doubt it if they finish it that fast

[chilly shadow]

so why did they give all the crap exotics the buff

[tired oriole]

cuz

[charred yacht]

nah dude it was way different

[zinc jetty]

it had an even longer damage phase then normal, but yeah it was way different mechanically

they got it like first run they got to damage

[ripe pond]

i guess hydra is easy

[deft temple]

So the epic raid is basically a 4 feat with little new mechanics

[acoustic cove]

ok servers are unstable now

[deft temple]

What an epic day

[pliant parrot]

servers have been ass since tuesday

[acoustic cove]

how tf did it take maybe an hour for their servers to just lose their mind

[chilly shadow]

hunters just basically only have to play lucky pants lol

[acoustic cove]

theyve been fine till today

[deft temple]

For the 12 players playing rn...

[cursive pelican]

and its the vow incident again

[coral tundra]

Who?

[deft temple]

Liama

[charred yacht]

llama cleared hydra

[coral tundra]

Damn

[deft temple]

Easily

[coral tundra]

That guy build different tbh

[cursive pelican]

Do you guys remember the vow raid?

[charred yacht]

team tommy might get hob soon

[deft temple]

Am sayin 4 feat with little new mechanics

[charred yacht]

idk who is team tommy tho

[zinc jetty]

its a lot of new mechanics

[charred yacht]

bro people that are good at this game are soooo good

[cursive pelican]

GO TEAM BURGER

[zinc jetty]

but yeah honestly the damage checks seem actually free

[cursive pelican]

GO BURGER!

[zinc jetty]

which im happy for because i don't have finality's catalyst

[deft temple]

Dayum 2 people getting teleported while dmg totally different

[charred yacht]

the tp during dps didnt seem too bad

[cursive pelican]

Why are ya’ll such a 🍔

[deft temple]

They basically do the same job just in 2 rooms...

[frank barn]

anyone got a look at the new loot?

[charred yacht]

final stand bar on the hob boss wacky

[deft temple]

It's trash

[frank barn]

rip

[zinc jetty]

new S tier pve AR that's about it

void support frame

[cursive pelican]

You say its trash cuz it has no bait and switch

[charred yacht]

if gls are ever meta the raid gl will probably be the best one

void support auto is neato

[cursive pelican]

I cant imagine glazing for Bait and switch in big 26 🥀💔

[normal garden]

it should really have all the support auto perks

[near sable]

anyone know the mechanics for building on wyvern epic ?

[charred yacht]

Do we know the rolls alr?

[normal garden]

yeah, perks have been in the api for ages

[zinc jetty]

has all the void perks you'd want

[cursive pelican]

[charred yacht]

what is it missing?

[normal garden]

Physic

[charred yacht]

i doubt bungie would let a void supp auto give resto

[ripe pond]

i’ve heard there’s already damage on hobgoblin

[charred yacht]

something like giving both players void overshield would had been cool tho

[ripe pond]

this raid finna be the new root of nigjmayers

[cursive pelican]

ron*

[normal garden]

its one of three supp autos AND its raid loot exclusive to the prestige raid

its a great idea to have it on it

[mint berry]

Committing war crimes in trials

[zinc jetty]

maybe even easier cause people can do the regular version for practice then go back to contest

[charred yacht]

I just meant its one of the things that bungie probably stubborn about

[charred yacht]

can you try out the new mechanics outside of contest?

[cursive pelican]

Like bungie said NO MORE FUN

[normal garden]

no

[zinc jetty]

after the raid race finishes

[normal garden]

you cant even launch into the epic raid solo

[tough sable]

40% damage perk lol

[zinc jetty]

so at the current rate in less then 4 hours

assuming koregos isn't some mega skill check which would be quite funny

[charred yacht]

the dps checks look nonexistant so it will probably be quick

they are figuring out the mechanics really fast

[zinc jetty]

how many contest teams we think are gonna clear it?

[charred yacht]

A decent amount

[zinc jetty]

im betting like 3k~

[charred yacht]

not many people are playing hto

[tough sable]

Epoptes looks actually miserable

[compact oasis]

Anyone knows mechanics for hydra?

[tired oriole]

i need heavy weapon and boots for 500 power and NOTHING is guaranteeing that today

pls help me!

[tough sable]

You dont need you want

[normal garden]

he wants you

[charred yacht]

I saw that there is another set of 6 eyes above the entrances to the side rooms

[tired oriole]

i want you

[lapis grail]

GM reclaim has brawler today

[cursive pelican]

lemark stfu you want help

[charred yacht]

bro llama is cracked wtff

[tired oriole]

8 min runs

[cursive pelican]

… Llama looks very suspicious now.. if they’re cracked

[tired oriole]

so funnnn!!

[cursive pelican]

Maybe i could be wrong

[tired oriole]

o 501 prime

[lapis grail]

My fastest reclaim is like 10 something minutes

[cursive pelican]

But i am convinced they’re net limiting

[tired oriole]

now i just need heavy or boots

[tired oriole]

im on console

[lapis grail]

I’m seeing use of finality’s auger and I NEED to get that thing

[tired oriole]

mine is sub 7!

with sturm tho and brawler

[mint berry]

[coral tundra]

I don’t know how llama team did hydra in 3 tries hahahaha

[mint berry]

Sub 40

[coral tundra]

Its insane how good people at destiny are insane at the game

[lapis grail]

And I didn’t use the sturm bug

[tired oriole]

ye so ur going quick

[charred yacht]

dude fr makes me think they just knew the mechanics ahead of time idkk

[tired oriole]

reclaim is fun

i guess!

[lapis grail]

when modifiers are good

[zinc jetty]

it might be possible, the regular raid's mechanics were datamined before the race

[tired oriole]

bns + elemental honing w rewind

[coral tundra]

Yeah, but sometimes I think they are kinda of lucky lol. Like I could have amplified and still be one shotted by a normal vex and those guys wont die

[acoustic cove]

fastest reclaim was maybe 7-8 minutes for me

on ultimate

[frigid magnet]

why y'all doin reclaim

[coral tundra]

But, they said that on dessert contest hydra and boss where the easiest

[tired oriole]

i was doing ultimate matchmade in 6 mins 😭

[coral tundra]

Fast to complete, great loot and you always get A

[twin bloom]

Llama might actually get WF at this pace

[charred yacht]

they are already getting damage stuff on hob tho and just got there its kinda unreal lmfao

theyre just goated

[coral tundra]

You can do 10 min runs for 4 drops and grade A

[twin bloom]

I think teams are struggling with Wyvern currently

[tired oriole]

subbb

[coral tundra]

100% lol

[amber spire]

does anyone else have th eproblem that the reclaim activity just isnt available, or nowhere to be found? ive done the into tower mission but i cant pick up anything from devrim kay and restarting the game etc. also did nothing?

[tired oriole]

nop

[charred yacht]

reclaim is in like a seasonal tab or something

[amber spire]

yeah i dont have it in there

[coral tundra]

But i think this raid is going to be done in 24 hours or less

[tired oriole]

wow

[amber spire]

im guessing i need the mission from devrim first but i cant even get that one lol

[charred yacht]

nah we are seeing a clear within like the next 3 hrs i feel

[zinc jetty]

im betting 4 hours or less

[coral tundra]

You think?

[zinc jetty]

oh a team got to hobgoblin final stand

[coral tundra]

Mmm.. it might be. Hows salta greppo doing?

[charred yacht]

stuck on wyvern i think

[tired oriole]

bad

[frigid magnet]

Palantir shipping my merch order via drone I feel like I should be worried

[charred yacht]

has anyone gotten to damage on wyvern eyet

[zinc jetty]

wyvern seems to be the hardest in the epic atleast

[lean barn]

i have info the raid is done in 2 hours

[charred yacht]

prophetic info

[coral tundra]

🤨

[tired oriole]

wifi pictures

[coral tundra]

Bro is the raid is done in 2 hours, it would he the wrost epic raid ever lol

[lean barn]

ok 2.5h

[frigid magnet]

1 pint of blood to verify delivery

[tired oriole]

how do i get a heavy weapon drop

[charred yacht]

bro if the damage checks arent complete cbt these guys just blow through it lmfao

[frigid magnet]

pray to jah

[coral tundra]

But 100%, Dessert contest emblem completion > Dessert epic raid emblem

[zinc jetty]

actually easier damage checks then pre-nerf 5 feat

[frigid magnet]

jahsey onfroy ♥️

[tired oriole]

nice

[coral tundra]

Bro dessert contest was impossible lol

[frigid magnet]

lf epic head

[tired oriole]

my power is 499

this hurts

[lean barn]

mine is 300

[tired oriole]

i cant do one more activity

[charred yacht]

watch the stream sir

[frigid magnet]

play trials

[tired oriole]

i will just play bad

[normal garden]

Y'all just wait till ||the new encounter!!!||

[charred yacht]

true

[frigid magnet]

uy scuti track 1

[charred yacht]

harpy explodes and taniks comes out of it

[tired oriole]

so instead of a 2 hour clear its a 4 hour clear

[normal garden]

:clueless:

[frigid magnet]

I ♥️ too much fun

[tired oriole]

if anyone is interested in sherpaing me tonight

[charred yacht]

bro everything just makes me think the boss health was definitely screwed up on the first contest

[tough sable]

ts lame and drawn out icl

[coral tundra]

Bro the hob being on top of the plates ☠️

[charred yacht]

bungie would never admit it tho

[coral tundra]

No tractor lol

Has someone done 2 encounters?

[tough sable]

all these challenges feel pointless and annoying

[charred yacht]

llama might get hob done here

[tough sable]

like why cant i jusg murder the boss

[charred yacht]

i think only llama has cleared an encounter so far

maybe tides has

[coral tundra]

Their damage is insane tbh

[zinc jetty]

it was like -48 delta by accident iirc

[lapis grail]

-40 the first time

[zinc jetty]

this is only like -30 i think?

[charred yacht]

tcrash is dumb op

[lapis grail]

looked cursed

[coral tundra]

Does anyone know if any warlocks of llama team has boots of the assembler?

[zinc jetty]

nah it was bugged and was higher then intended

[charred yacht]

probably only thing that makes sense to run

[tulip halo]

me

[charred yacht]

you could run sanguine I guess

but ur damage is azz so who cares

[coral tundra]

Yeah, but boots of assembler you are giving 35% dmg buff to 5 guys lol

[zinc jetty]

boots is meta yeah

[coral tundra]

Like you could run sanguine and go with a lmg with fourth and target lock (you do insane dmg)

But i prefer boots for the whole team, 35% its insane

[charred yacht]

everyone is using augurs i think

[zinc jetty]

if you just cared about your own damage rain of fire BnS rotations are better anyways

i have no idea why no one uses rain of fire

[tough sable]

tf is this raid

[charred yacht]

final stand for hob looks so cool

[zinc jetty]

people could also run uhh cenotaph

[coral tundra]

True

But eee, the boots guy can als use that lol

And giving them 35% more dmg is crazy

Llama had it @charred yacht lol

[zinc jetty]

im prob gonna run cenotaph cause i don't trust my teammates to run finder mods

[coral tundra]

Llama i think its going to be world first

[zinc jetty]

considering they're literally always complaining about ammo even in normal 4 feats

[tired oriole]

needs more raid races per year

[flint path]

f

[charred yacht]

salt getting first wyvern

[zinc jetty]

iatros is done

[charred yacht]

wacky

[coral tundra]

I stopped playing day ones, since root

Like I can’t be in a game for 48+ for a chance to complete it lol

[zinc jetty]

lmao the wyvern was 2 phased

imagine 2 phasing a boss on contest

actually RoN 2

[charred yacht]

:P

are all the titans just running peacekeepers? lol

[zinc jetty]

yeah

[near sable]

any location for mechanics for wyvern since its been completed?

[pliant parrot]

Ron 2?

[near sable]

we stuck on how to climb

[charred yacht]

just watch salts stream hes the only one i think

[zinc jetty]

nah literally no one watched it get finished

[near sable]

I am hearing multiple ppl have completed

[charred yacht]

im pretty sure salt is the only one who has cleared wyvern

idk tho

[pliant parrot]

dont pour salt in your wyvern

[charred yacht]

llama 2 bosses wacky

[zinc jetty]

hobgoblin is done

think it was also 2 phased?

[charred yacht]

yea xddd

[zinc jetty]

sso happy its this lose on the damage check, cause i don't have the catty for finality's lmao

[charred yacht]

bungie really rubbing in the salt on everyone who decided to not do contest anymore lmfao

[mint berry]

Imagine watching a raid race

When you can be in trials

[charred yacht]

True

[mint berry]

[tired oriole]

my heavy weapon is 97 and everything else is 500 😭😭😭

[coral tundra]

Did llama did hob?

[charred yacht]

yep

seemed like they brute forced through final stand

[coral tundra]

Bro he did hob

Holly 💩

[quaint palm]

is the twitch drop emblem bugged? don’t see it anywhere in collections

[stone rune]

Close the game and open it again

[mint berry]

L

[quaint palm]

tried already

[sweet wasp]

anyone know hobs mechanics for epic?

[mint berry]

Yeah it's called go do it yourself

[sweet wasp]

i have this thing called a job. idk if youve heard about it

[pliant parrot]

most here dont

[mint berry]

Absolutely sadly I'm employed I love teaching but I want to shoot my brains at

[sweet wasp]

rip gifs tf

[mint berry]

No Kurt Cobain today

[ripe pond]

nobody playing this sht

there’s a reason why

[charred yacht]

its because its too EPIC

[mint berry]

There's 80,000 right now at trials

[frigid magnet]

The epic dp wyvern boss is in the Epstein files

[ripe pond]

80k playing this game?

[mint berry]

Oh you're also forgetting the 25k in raid

[pliant parrot]

wth is your pfp

[mint berry]

But you know back to what you were doing

[left grove]

Hello

[mint berry]

I don't know about this one it doesn't look real

[mint berry]

It's mind-blowing

I'm about to take my mind bender and turn around with myself if I can't lock in

[formal condor]

Hi vee

[pliant parrot]

lol, henlo

[cursive pelican]

hello

How are ya?

[tired oriole]

hi

[formal condor]

Hi lemark

[tired oriole]

hi

[cursive pelican]

hello lemark

[pliant parrot]

just another day of working to stay housed

[brisk sage]

Transferring wealth from my employer to my landlord like a bawwsss

[cursive pelican]

Oh gotta pay the bills and work right?

[pliant parrot]

luckily i only have 4 years left on my mortgage, so i'm just transferring wealth from 1 bank to another

[tired oriole]

can some go to my bank

[cursive pelican]

is it worth getting a house?

[tired oriole]

no

[pliant parrot]

at least october is a 3 check month with quarterly bonus

[brisk sage]

Ooh nice

[tired oriole]

but also Yes once its payed off u pay like 200 a month

[pliant parrot]

after january i'll officially have invested more into my ROTH than i owe on the house

[brisk sage]

Gonna be a lot less stress once that's up

[frigid magnet]

Into the caymans

[cursive pelican]

200 isnt as bad right?

[worn iris]

running 76 light here

[cursive pelican]

Whats even worse in canada we have to pay more

[pliant parrot]

its about 400 amonth for HOA/insurance/taxes

100 for interest, 1000 for principle

[cursive pelican]

mhm

[tired oriole]

what armor can u farm for those stats

[pliant parrot]

you gotta reroll to be born before 1980

[hearty jasper]

no

[unborn ledge]

so, what's the new encounter?

[dusky wigeon]

fish

[autumn onyx]

Anyone knows which team is 1st rn?

[stone rune]

Llama

They are very close to killing 3rd boss

[autumn onyx]

Tought so

Watching meiners rn

[zinc jetty]

killed them

[stone rune]

Yup

[hollow yacht]

btw am i really stupid or something, or is my second data tablet on vexcalibur mission just not counting lmao

[echo parrot]

Oh, how's the race going

[zinc jetty]

third encounter done

[brisk sage]

There's a few data pads not counting on pickup

[hollow yacht]

oh sick one

gotta love bungo

[zinc jetty]

all encounters are 2 phaseable on contest lmao

[brisk sage]

Not sure if it's even on their radar tbh

[hollow yacht]

its probably not, theyre more focused on running a second version of the raid that no one wants to do

[autumn onyx]

Final boss now or surprise encounter?

[zinc jetty]

new encounter

all 4 bosses are there

[modest hound]

Ayoooo

[normal garden]

they were sussy imposters this entire time!!!

[hallow silo]

I AM THE SMARTEST MF. I PREDICTED THE FINAL ENCOUNTER TO MY OFFLINE DISCORD FRIEND THAT WE WILL BE FIGHTING ALL OF THE BOSSES AT ONCE

[tardy crypt]

whats ur twitch

[tired oriole]

how r the bosses alive

if u kill in raid

[zinc jetty]

time travel

you go through a time portal to get to earlier prototypes of them

[tired oriole]

okay so why cant vex do that about every vex

they choose to lose then

vex never lose everything will be vex

[pliant parrot]

so....space magic

[devout raft]

Who cares

Game is dead

27K players on the day of a new raid launch

[opal escarp]

I've been enjoying my Pyrogale Gauntlet build

[zinc jetty]

We're going into a simulation, its a lot easier then bringing something out of one as that requires immense power (why the vex cant freely do it, but maya is strong enough to)

Vex arent paracausal

Thry just use N dimensional space which is something that exists in real theoretical physics

[mint berry]

80k in trials

[misty dawn]

27 😟

[charred yacht]

this final boss arena looks like that old vex cutscene

idk if anyone knows what Im talking about

[hybrid flare]

There's a NEW encounter in the epic raid?

[charred yacht]

yea

final boss is replaced with a new version

[normal garden]

yuh

Undyings cinematic

[hybrid flare]

Oh cool

[zinc jetty]

Also koregos serves as an anchor in time for the vex

[charred yacht]

the undying cinematic was reused from something else too I think

[zinc jetty]

The vex can abuse timelines, but they're bound by worldlines, so koregos being the worldline implies it to be the vex's anchor of existence

[charred yacht]

what is this supposed to be do we know?

[tough sable]

The vex arent real bro

[hallow silo]

my fantasy is.. the game shuts down, but u can host ur own server and modify stuff

[hybrid flare]

Dude the new boss arena looks so damn cool

[devout raft]

only good thing left in this game is the cistern

[hybrid flare]

I still love all the raids and dungeons, can't find an equivalent in the other games I play. Shame they don't drop meaningful gear anymore

[unborn ledge]

no just an older unused cinematic

[coral tundra]

Insane how llama is on last boss @charred yacht

[charred yacht]

yea

[coral tundra]

Is he the first one to get there?

[charred yacht]

yea I was just wondering if the kinda environment was supposed to be something in the lore

[vocal marten]

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN

[charred yacht]

they are saying this is like leviathan prestige

[amber hollow]

heck yeah papa meat made a video about bug chasers

[charred yacht]

which it kinda is

[vocal marten]

Oh yeah we knew that

[pliant parrot]

uh, like the segs bugs?

[vocal marten]

Bro what

[zinc jetty]

technically it's inside the black garden IIRC

its the actual birthplace of the vex

[warped totem]

so how much is actually different in the epic raid?

[charred yacht]

last encounter is replaced with a new encounter

[warped totem]

thats it?

[charred yacht]

all the bosses have more mechanics

[chilly shale]

is any guide for hydra already ?

[charred yacht]

man raid and dungeon people always cook'

crazy that the rest of the game is so balls

[narrow shoal]

next raid is levi 2

[normal garden]

this encounters a farse, I just cant prove it yet

[charred yacht]

conspiracy brain thinking this was intended for the original raid lol

[vocal marten]

Damn, I can't wait omg! Thank you for finally hearing my prayers!!!

Pete be blessed!!!

[charred yacht]

man if old raids get epic versions with the final encounters being revamped that would be so crazy cool

[bold seal]

Anyone knows what the rush mechanic for globin?

[patent valve]

i still can't get over the fact that shotgun titans bag a glaive user, it feels funny.

[astral mauve]

raid already got cleared by a team from Lowman

[formal condor]

Hi effect

[mint berry]

[vocal marten]

Hi Mara :) How are you doing?

[formal condor]

I’m okay, you?

[pliant parrot]

bungo does love reusing old content

[warped totem]

so how would you rate the epic raid to the normal raid?

[charred yacht]

i mean its way cooler than anything like prestige or master has ever been

[vocal marten]

If this were true the vault would be open

[vocal marten]

It's my Friday :D I'm about as happy as I can get

[primal osprey]

did anyones Sens get reset after the raid launch today?

[opal escarp]

Mara and Rhea Ripley as a tag team

[warped totem]

if the final encounter is ||just all the bosses at once|| thats kinda lame ngl

[opal escarp]

Whisper has come full circle then

[charred yacht]

just open the livestream lol

[unborn ledge]

no, no new encounters would be lame

[unborn ledge]

that's what portal is tbh

[spiral grove]

there is!

[vocal marten]

Then portal is missing 5 raids

[warped totem]

there tehcnically arent any new encounters, by new encounters i mean new bosses

[opal escarp]

Bungie glazers at its finest. This is accurate

[warped totem]

theres a reason gladd dipped for this one

[vocal marten]

sounded like he's tired of destiny

[spiral grove]

uhm? a 5th encounter its sick

[charred yacht]

???

[warped totem]

i wouldnt call a new area with the exact same bosses and tweaked mechanics new

[narrow shoal]

watch llama stream and tell me it final enc doesnt look cool

[warped totem]

heres the thing, bungie always cooks when it comes to visuals. Anything other than that they drop the bar

[opal escarp]

Agreed

[opal escarp]

Gladd made very solid and valid points

[modest valve]

What is this game...

[opal escarp]

I can understand Gladd would want his Leviathan belt

[warped totem]

gladd might be on his way to quitting destiny altogether

[zinc jetty]

you know, it's sad that the only actually new encounter is the one without new loot

each of the encounters in the epic raid has a new weapon but the final one

[charred yacht]

who watches gladd lmfao

[zinc jetty]

probably just gonna drop from all the encounters, but its still sad it doesn't give anything specifically to encourage running it

[spiral grove]

this is a new arena with new mechanics

[tough sable]

who got wg

wf

[last fern]

watching this epic koregos got me feeling like this

[pliant parrot]

is that you rfk?

i could go for some ritalin right about now

[vocal marten]

why are you the way you are

can you not be that way

[cerulean sedge]

Anyone on Hydra? How are you handeling placement of your team? 1 in each room, or 2 in each room 1 for ad clear?

[patent valve]

i wish others could enjoy the whimsey of sticking to 1 weapon archetype in pvp.

[edgy forum]

Bto can't a brother attempt some motion

[patent valve]

i want to bring the hope-dream to the grim-dark that is destiny 2 PvP

[vocal marten]

Coffeeshop

[tough sable]

who tf

[vocal marten]

you wouldn't get it

[spiral grove]

the epic raid looks sick

[vocal marten]

you too

[spiral grove]

hobgoblin final stand looks scary now

[hybrid flare]

hey dudes, does equipped light affect reward quality in trials?

Or just character light?

[zinc jetty]

yes

[velvet isle]

@rapid ingot

[opal escarp]

Anything you have set as a primary stat and secondary stat, you want those to be over 100 for bonus benefit

Depending on the exotic armor piece you are wearing and weapons that synergize with it

I'm running Pyrogale Gauntlets, so I'm running Paragon for my 4 pieces of legendary gear with Super + Melee as my two focuses to get the most benefit. It'll feel even better once I have all 4 pieces of Desert Perpetual gear

[stone rune]

Im looking at steam player count rn with the raid active and uh

Its only 28k🥹

[opal escarp]

Yeah, I seen that as well, but watch out, other people are gonna come in here, saying, "That's steam count doesn't reflect the entire player base" 🤓

[verbal field]

so the epic raid is a single encounter with all the bosses or are there more?

[charred yacht]

all the other encs have extra mechs like prestige levi

new replaces final boss

[verbal field]

seeing all these mechanics combined reminds me of an ultimate raid from ffxiv lol

[opal escarp]

The takeaway here though is the reason for less people watching Epic Raid is that its the 2nd time they used DP as a world's first raid. Would be different if it was an actual new raid that isn't named "Desert Perpetual"

It should be called "World's 2nd raid"

[ripe pond]

bro

[opal escarp]

At this point as well, they may as well make belts for any content that's difficult is basically what I takeaway from this even world's first lost sectors lol 🤓

[tender bridge]

cleared the contest epic

actually mickey easy once you get the DPS checks down

we didnt get first lol. a team in china on bilibili beat it

[hybrid flare]

GJ!

[verbal field]

if contest is easy i may just try it tomorrow

what the dps strat this time

[charred yacht]

finality auger + rocket pulse

[tender bridge]

finalitys auger + mint + fusion rifle (its pretty open)

[verbal field]

i dont have the catalyst for auger

and i never wanna run that dungeon again....

[tender bridge]

youre pretty much just using it for the turret

[verbal field]

oh then i should be fine?

[tender bridge]

catty is just BnS

[ripe pond]

are people even playin ts sht

[tender bridge]

ts sht

[ripe pond]

cuz i feel like nobody on this

[vocal marten]

I love that people are saying this

🥹

[weak relic]

is hunter dps strat with agape still or fusion rifle anyways

[fringe cloud]

How long until we hate extra mechanics and why don’t they just increase the numbers?

[verbal field]

i mean this is way better than master raids

[fringe cloud]

master raids should be fun

but everyone is so bad at the game now that it's impossible to find 5 competent people

[verbal field]

no master raids are ass

[fringe cloud]

i liked it

[tough sable]

this game sucks so much

[tender bridge]

idk we had one hunter but he used fusion

[fringe cloud]

game died like 5 years ago

this is the aftermath

[verbal field]

yeah man game died during BL ??

[fringe cloud]

pretty much

that's when bungie lost all their backbone and stopped making any new ideas

[tender bridge]

idk, witch queen and light fall felt very new and fresh

[fringe cloud]

yeah cuz they just band-aid patched a bunch of power creep into the game to keep people happy for a while

wow guys every subclass is now 10x better and every weapon is a 5/5 cuz you just craft them

[bleak thorn]

D2 was already dead game since The Final Shape expansions was over

[fringe cloud]

of course people liked it

[tender bridge]

they inroduced a bunch of new mechanics, weapons, features, abilities, bosses, enemy types, story

[tough sable]

Shadowkeep is where it all went wrong

[charred yacht]

shadow keep was so funny

[tough sable]

i sold my.pc back then

[charred yacht]

entire dlc is making a set of armor

[pliant parrot]

that checks out

[verbal field]

are there any streamers actually getting to dps

[fringe cloud]

not like they didn't make anything good

but after BL they started caving to the community the second anything new wasn't already good

[opal escarp]

A lot of people are bad at the game because you got elite players not willing to teach, or they tell people to watch guides. I've watched plenty guides, but it's still different once you step into the raid

[charred yacht]

not what I have seen, there is some mechanic that restarts the encounter

my assumption is that its a bad thing when that happens

[verbal field]

music changes each time they do that so i assume its a good thing

[charred yacht]

oh maybe then

[fringe cloud]

there are like 10x more guides for things than like pre witch queen and everyone is significantly worse

[verbal field]

im guessing you kill all 3 bosses restarting it each time and then ???

[pliant parrot]

not to mention they completely screwd the leveling process for anyone that actually logs off

[opal escarp]

I rather someone explain to me what something does in a few minutes in the encounter I am doing than watch a 45min YouTube video

That's just an example. I only know the older raids at the top of my head not the new ones

[fringe cloud]

it's not cuz they don't know there's just nothing to challenge them so they just stay bad forever and complain when it's too hard

try getting the master raid triumphs in lfg

it's a disaster. someone will die like 50 times and say it's the game's fault every time

[charred yacht]

yea lfg is bad thats like the whole thing

[pliant parrot]

that's why i dont raid, cause I KNOW its my fault 😛

[charred yacht]

thats how it works

[tender bridge]

well because they tune things so frequently that its hard to have a consistent good build throughout a season

[fervent veldt]

skibidi bunny

[pliant parrot]

skibidi booty

[charred yacht]

it just depends

[fringe cloud]

it's not that hard

it really isn't

[charred yacht]

some things get to stay strong for a very long time for no reason

[verbal field]

is the encounter fading to black and reseting a good thing or bad

[ripe pond]

what encounter sweatcicle is on

[fervent veldt]

whos that

[pliant parrot]

like titans

[tender bridge]

good

[cursive pelican]

this raid is a nothing burger

[fringe cloud]

it's the same raid

[opal escarp]

Well when yougot taught when you did your first raids, of course it is going to be easy after you've done something so many times. Telling a new player "its easy" doesn't help their experience.

It's something to give yourself an ego on that no one wants to hear

[fringe cloud]

they're not new they just suck

[cursive pelican]

exactly why should i bother watching it tbh

[charred yacht]

you only have to do the challenges 1 time so everyone who hasnt done it yet probably sucks

[ripe pond]

how do these mfs complete an encounter in 30 mins when we been on it for 3 hours

[charred yacht]

its not surprising

[fringe cloud]

it's the same raid as normal mode just don't stand in the middle of 500 enemies

[ripe pond]

how dedicated are we to this game

[verbal field]

are any of the encounter changes like hard

[cursive pelican]

💀

no way really?

[charred yacht]

its their job lol

[pine fog]

Seems like only final is

[thin mist]

how to redeem emblem for watching stream ?

[alpine garnet]

better gaming chairs

[ripe pond]

bungie benefits

[verbal field]

honestly the epic raid should've just been the boss

[cursive pelican]

uninstall is the metah

[zinc jetty]

ngl the biggest thing i've found as someone who sherpas occasionally, what raid they learn first really matters

[cursive pelican]

lool

imagine owning a gaming chair

[pliant parrot]

what if your first raid was Leviathan

[charred yacht]

really? lol

make someone do SE first

destiny 2 super soldier

[bleak thorn]

Can you tell me what is best gaming chair name?

[pliant parrot]

herman miller aeron

[charred yacht]

herman miller

lmfao

[bleak thorn]

Hmm okay thank you guys

[cursive pelican]

bruh

[charred yacht]

bankrupcy chair

[fringe cloud]

i don't think that's what he's talking about

[pliant parrot]

mine is almost 20 years old

[cursive pelican]

what are ya’ll yapping about?

[keen bluff]

any wanna do SD boss 3times see if I get the exotic

[pliant parrot]

i only paid 800 for it

[weak relic]

cant u farm exotics now? or is that releasing later

[tender bridge]

im willing to bet that my team had the most unconvential way of prepping for this raid

[bleak thorn]

I know what they are talking about lol I just let them talk lmao

[ripe pond]

i wish the epic raid never came out

[charred yacht]

never again

[keen bluff]

Not the newest one

[pliant parrot]

bungo says you can

[cursive pelican]

-w-

[normal garden]

this is so weird

[weak relic]

oh right. parasite is a good enough replacement though no?

[cursive pelican]

Oryx?

Whats good cuh?

[pliant parrot]

I actually need to rebuild my chair, the mesh is basically dead after 20 years

[keen bluff]

The only problem with parasite you need to build up 20 stacks

[cursive pelican]

Seriously?!

[tender bridge]

not even close unfort

[pliant parrot]

and not blow yourself up

[cursive pelican]

20 years?!

[keen bluff]

Yeah that to

[verbal field]

i just realized i couldnt even do the raid if i wanted to since none of my characters are close to 300 lol

[pliant parrot]

actually i think about 15, i wanna say i bought it after my house

[weak relic]

hm interesting. i was watching llama's loadout videos and they were saying parasite is also good cause of worm byproduct

[cursive pelican]

oh my god

back in my day we had simpler chairs

[pliant parrot]

2010 WAS your day

[ripe pond]

this game is so dead

[charred yacht]

well its like a $1000+ chair lol

[cursive pelican]

Exactly

[pliant parrot]

ya i got it from one of those overstock places for like 750

i think it was 1200 at the time

new*

[cursive pelican]

Exactly cuz chairs had so much value

[charred yacht]

it makes u better at video games

[pliant parrot]

but now everyone actually makes cheap chairs that don't break

[cursive pelican]

bro gotten a 2 decade old chair thats basically worth 12 cents

[pliant parrot]

i kept snapping off armwrests on my old chairs

[bleak thorn]

what happen if you poop in the gaming chair? lol

[night sail]

why aint my zavla selling the god mint

[pliant parrot]

depends if its mesh or padded 😛

[charred yacht]

i havent thought about that

[bleak thorn]

🤣

[cursive pelican]

💀

[bleak thorn]

you should think about it now

[cursive pelican]

kill me

[cursive pelican]

😐🔫

[pliant parrot]

thats how you had to raid back in the day

[mint berry]

Hmm

[cursive pelican]

how are you gonna eat?

[alpine garnet]

skibidi

[pliant parrot]

you got poop dontcha

[rocky lark]

or you could just cut a hole in a chair and put a bucket underneath

[pliant parrot]

ok i gotta go back to work

[cursive pelican]

byee

[pliant parrot]

3h to go 🙁

[vocal marten]

Quit

[alpine garnet]

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[cobalt swift]

Did Zavala offer a Rewind Rounds/Bait and Switch Mint Retrograde the other day? Or am I tripping?

[ripe pond]

is the new guns even good?

[normal garden]

yep

[charred yacht]

the rocket pulse is one of the best in the game if u mean that

[mint berry]

Stop being a gooner

[cobalt swift]

Shoot. It must've changed when I wasn't looking

[charred yacht]

the epic raid weapons are alr i think

[brisk sage]

He changed his inventory on the Wednesday and it hasn't changed again since apparently

[cobalt swift]

Pittance...

[opal escarp]

For a minute I thought I was looking at Aqua from Kingdom Hearts because of the blue hair, then I realized it wasn't

[cobalt swift]

No matter. Nightmare of Galhran away!

[brisk sage]

Which is weird like if you change it once it should change again every day till reset

[cobalt swift]

It's water under the bridge for me at this point, seeing as how I can farm tier 5 variants today

[mint berry]

[keen bluff]

Sd boss cp I just 2 ppl to do it 3 times

[cursive pelican]

another figure… add to my collections..

[mint berry]

[cursive pelican]

Thats every gooner person

[mint berry]

See the problem is

[cursive pelican]

[zinc jetty]

teams have spent more time on the final boss then the entire rest of the raid combined lmao

[normal garden]

what says this is the final boss :clueless:

[unborn ledge]

makes sense lol

since it's new

[alpine garnet]

[charred yacht]

encounter seems incredibly complicated

[normal garden]

I think its just a puzzle encounter in the boss arena tbh

[charred yacht]

you have to like restart it 3 times or something

[normal garden]

and next enc is killing Koregos

[verbal field]

i mean theres a health bar and you can damage him

you just do like 2 damage

[normal garden]

timey wimey mechanics

this wont be the last encounter

[verbal field]

cope

[zinc jetty]

considering there's only 3 new guns for the epic raid, yes it will

one from each of the other encounters

[verbal field]

wait is there an exotic?

[charred yacht]

no

[zinc jetty]

catalyst for the regular one

[charred yacht]

shotgun supp auto and a gl

[frigid hatch]

no, Epic version has Catalyst for the pre-existing exotic

[verbal field]

oh

[alpine garnet]

there be taniks, the returning mind

[zinc jetty]

but yeah, imo there only being 3 new guns hard proves this is final

[edgy forum]

Yo anyone else a big femboy fan

[tough sable]

Shut the hell up

[zinc jetty]

cause it would be even more weird for a new encounter to not get a new gun then it is for final not to

[edgy forum]

Mb Joe baby

[vocal marten]

Ur new

[charred yacht]

i cant imagine them designing a whole new encounter thats supposed to go after this one

[edgy forum]

When we playing together

[normal garden]

The catalyst isnt even good either 😭

[edgy forum]

Yaoi son or yuri daughter

Call it

[alpine garnet]

bungie is known for miracles

[charred yacht]

imo we are already beyond what anyone expected from this

[edgy forum]

Like gwynn

[frigid hatch]

i was hoping for something that speeds up Anticipation, what'd we get?

[normal garden]

lol

[verbal field]

???

[tough sable]

Prolly never i hate destiny

[edgy forum]

If yall ever feel bad abt catalysts look at final warning

[verbal field]

adclear perk is crazy

[edgy forum]

Ts is doggy

[frigid hatch]

so they knew the problem with the rocket and ignored it.....?

[tough sable]

final warning catalyst smacks ur bugging

[normal garden]

Ad clear catalyst is amazing

[frigid hatch]

[tough sable]

highest dps primary in the game btw

[edgy forum]

Sybau

[edgy forum]

BUT WHEN I SAID THIS U CLOWNED ON ME

[frigid hatch]

Barrow Dyad exists

[tough sable]

🙄🙄🙄

[edgy forum]

Joe baby is king of the chuds

[normal garden]

its not even that, if it went through champs and did that, it wouldnt be a bad catalyst imo

[tough sable]

wraith is a failed femboy

[frigid hatch]

have you seen how fast Anticipation charges while in combat?

[edgy forum]

Well yes but actually no

[normal garden]

But it goes through weaken combatents??? why man

[edgy forum]

@tough sable

[normal garden]

reasonably fast, its meant to be swapped to

[edgy forum]

Wtf

[charred yacht]

i figure it just meant red bars "weaker" not "weaken"

[tough sable]

You didnt even watch it

[verbal field]

hey man if theres 5 ads standing in a line infront of the boss it MIGHT do as much damage as parasite!

[tough sable]

Tiktok attention span

[frigid hatch]

means it Penetrates red bars so the impact damage carries over to however many targets

[charred yacht]

kinda cool if it did do that tho

[frigid hatch]

and each penetration leaves behind a solar field

[vocal marten]

I'm telling on you for swearing

[edgy forum]

I did

Joe baby let's run up some gms

For old times sake

[tough sable]

Ill crash out for no reason

[tough sable]

They dont exist

[edgy forum]

Oh wait I forgot this game sucks now

[normal garden]

still a bad catalyst, lemme just skewer 4 thralls so I can do 15% extra damage

[edgy forum]

Eof jumpscare

[tough sable]

wait that catalyst is for the chud launcher ??? 😭😭😭

[tired oriole]

chud launcher

[charred yacht]

what if it does like a morbillion damage

[edgy forum]

Will u hop on amongus with me

[tough sable]

nope

[edgy forum]

🥺

[edgy forum]

Alr wtv bro

I didn't want to anyways lowk

[tired oriole]

bombaclat

[tough sable]

same

[charred yacht]

congrats on worlds first

[tired oriole]

thank

[tough sable]

i need a new pc or a big bitchh puerto rican

[charred yacht]

Become the best destiny rising player

[midnight kraken]

releases Overload Moths

[verbal field]

so why is datto running retrofit escapade

[midnight kraken]

[charred yacht]

Washed 😭

[verbal field]

dude omg i just realized playing titan must be so miserable here

since you have to run a damage exotic for neutral game

[charred yacht]

Placing barricade makes u invincible so who cares

[verbal field]

i wouldnt be able to do anything without alpha lupi fr

[tough sable]

ameyatchi by mathey youre welcome

[charred yacht]

everyone i've seen is just using the smg with chaos reshaped infinite healing

[alpine garnet]

is the game back?

[verbal field]

no lol

[charred yacht]

no just we get a small reminder that the raid and dungeon team are epic

[haughty tapir]

Anyone know what the emblem is for doing the raid?

[charred yacht]

contest emblem

[edgy forum]

Ugly ahh

[charred yacht]

its looks cool

[verbal field]

the icon is a little

mid

[rocky lark]

damn no one seems to care about the raid lol

[charred yacht]

the icon is kinda mid

[charred yacht]

i figure the first contest killed all motivation in doing contests but idk

[haughty tapir]

why do we have so many green focused emblems lol

[pliant parrot]

*no one seems to care about Destiny 2

[charred yacht]

that too

[hollow oyster]

ngl it feels like this might be it

[rocky lark]

i sure as hell dont anymore

[verbal field]

lowkey just a worse version of kf day 1 on god

[hollow oyster]

i dont see the game recovering ever

[charred yacht]

holy salt dps

[haughty tapir]

Would you blame them? lol

[rocky lark]

the ultimate power move the new ceo could do is bring back all vaulted content

[zinc jetty]

they got to damage finally

[charred yacht]

boss is a bit uhh tanky

[verbal field]

salt running tractor lmao that thing is so far

[charred yacht]

salt only runs tractor lmfao

[zinc jetty]

i feel like they're missing something

[charred yacht]

they added the rocket pulse just for him for his tractor dps 🥹

[alpine garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-pj-sera-flr-gif-25785837

[verbal field]

oh the boss moved to a different area?