💬destiny-chat

[blissful scaffold]

Wat

[twin bloom]

Is that still an issue on PC? People just grabbing your info?

[misty dawn]

bo2 plutonium

instead of official servers u just play pluto, doubt anyone is rce exploiting

[sharp aurora]

Silksong

In 3 days

[twin bloom]

Rip to every current game except for maybe Helldivers 2 in 3 days.

[blissful scaffold]

Too bad i install it on steam will get flagged with virus thou Virus anti software

[sharp aurora]

It’s at like 415k wishlists rn

Beating #2 by like 100k

[blissful scaffold]

@sharp aurora

[sharp aurora]

Not really

[twin bloom]

It’s the most anticipated game ever. It should be #1 lol

[sharp aurora]

@undone egret not exactly

[pine fog]

I think the reason why its so anticipated is that hollow knight was so peak, and we wanted more. Plus the 6 year no communication gap from the devs lol

[sharp aurora]

Silksong is currently at 412742
Deadlock is at 303963

Over 100k gap

[twin bloom]

6 years of no communication because they were having too much fun lol

[pine fog]

Which is awesome honestly

[twin bloom]

The opposite of development hell

[sharp aurora]

It’s also confirmed that it’s going to be 20$

[twin bloom]

I didn’t even know that was a thing

[sharp aurora]

Hollow knight is 15$

[pine fog]

When you actually make a game for fun and not for profit thats what happens

[twin bloom]

$20 in this economy is still crazy though

As in $20 is such a steal

[south snow]

I was baffled

[sharp aurora]

I wasn’t

[twin bloom]

And it’s gonna be on gamepass too it’s so over

[south snow]

They could have made it 40 and people would still buy it

[sharp aurora]

Theyre already millionaires

[spiral grove]

every game with a price tag is made for profit

[pine fog]

Its team cherry, they added multiple free dlcs to hollow knight and didn’t raise the price

[sharp aurora]

4 specifically

And we have slopes

[twin bloom]

The thing I’ve learned is that games with a normal price tag these days or lower than normal are made by (mostly) people who actually care about their game

[pine fog]

Well yes but when you dont have corporations breathing down on your neck you have room to do whatever you want

[spiral grove]

shovelware exists

[twin bloom]

(mostly) people who actually care about their games. Don’t get me started on the $5 slop

[sharp aurora]

Or the 2.99 slop (battlefield 2042)

[spiral grove]

price tag isnt a good indicator at all on if someone cared about their game

[lapis grail]

Wow, thought I wasn’t gonna beat a no starting ammo GM Skywatch, expected to fail because there were so many aimbotting snipers. Completed -47 under.

[twin bloom]

What was that game on steam that had a crap ton of wishlists? “The Day Before” or whatever?

[lapis grail]

Uh huh.

[hallow wasp]

80 dollar

[lapis grail]

Game lasted 6 weeks, concord lasted for 2.

[sharp aurora]

Why even try tho

[lapis grail]

Didn’t think I was gonna beat the skywatch with such stakes

[twin bloom]

Concord was just…….no

[spiral grove]

if baldurs gate 4 dropped for 80 dollars people wouldnt even think twice and for good reason

[hallow wasp]

yes they would

[spiral grove]

uh huh

[lapis grail]

Challenge myself for once? And the snipers were terrifying

[sharp aurora]

Good devs build reputation
Bad devs ruin a good reputation

[sharp aurora]

True

[spiral grove]

80 dollar nintendo games are reviewing critically well

[hallow wasp]

baldurs game 3 is at most a 60 dollar game, there is not 80 dollars worth in there

[twin bloom]

Good devs can also crumble. Look at Bungie then and now.

[hallow wasp]

nintendo xd

[spiral grove]

bg3 was never mentioned

[sharp aurora]

Yea

That was the meaning of my msg

[hallow wasp]

ur basing ur claim about bg4 on how ppl liked bg3 don't pretend

[spiral grove]

people hated bungie way more around CoO and d2y1 then they do now

[twin bloom]

No Man’s Sky needs to be studied though

[spiral grove]

and beyond light especially

[sharp aurora]

I thought beyond light was a net positive

[spiral grove]

were you around for then

[sharp aurora]

(Not counting PvP)

[sharp aurora]

Yes

[twin bloom]

Well when you sunset 70% of your game, I’d expect a major decline lol

[sharp aurora]

I played it on launch

Ohh the sunsetting

Yea that was bad
I was talking about new content only

[twin bloom]

Kinda what EoF is experiencing now.

[spiral grove]

and stasis ruining pvp, and the dlc being lackluster

eramis was probably the worst villain we've gotten since ghaul

[twin bloom]

No reason to run any of the old dungeons unless it’s either Sundered or Vesper’s and even then.

[spiral grove]

at least levask is entertaining when hes on

[pine fog]

Edge of fate sunset the game without actually sunsetting it

[sharp aurora]

There’s no reason to run any of the good content right now

[hallow wasp]

eof did the amazing job of removing raiding and dungeons from the game

[spiral grove]

eof didn't sunset anything bru

[twin bloom]

This

[pine fog]

Not literally, no

[spiral grove]

not in any way

[sharp aurora]

Are the legacy raids done btw
Are we getting any new reprisals

[twin bloom]

The systems we had before EoF were fine. WHY REMOVE IT?

[hallow wasp]

no

[pine fog]

Brother, what reason is there to run any of the older content right now

[hallow wasp]

because streamer YouTuber mans said crafting bad

[sharp aurora]

Great
Another thing I looked forward to gone

[spiral grove]

because of the loot?? in my looter shooter?

[twin bloom]

Like the reputation vendor systems? Gone (except Hawthorne ig?). Pinnacle raids/dungeons? Gone.

[hallow wasp]

so Bungie said ok and reversed 6 years of making the grind more fun and less tedious

[twin bloom]

I could go on

[sharp aurora]

Tbh I kinda like the new stat system
But the 100-200 “bonus” for health should be the 0-100 stat

[hallow wasp]

bungies been nonstop complaining that making raids is expensive and doesn't make money

[pine fog]

Except why go for it when you have the fancy new tier stuff that’s just objectively better

[hallow wasp]

the loot is useless and doesn't matter

[sharp aurora]

What doesn’t make money is having no one play the game

[pine fog]

Plus the old armor sets, while still decent, have no set bonuses

[twin bloom]

I agree that the new armor system is nice but having the “tiered exotics” be technically weaker than pre-eof ones kinda stings

[spiral grove]

if you exclude desert perpetual there probably isnt a single new tier weapon thats objectively better than any weapon from the past

[sharp aurora]

Yea
And the new gear stuff is stupid

[hallow wasp]

it's the d2y1 armor stat spikes thing all over again

[misty dawn]

🎣

[spiral grove]

if you think so then you might just get all your info from content creators

[hallow wasp]

where keeping the old poorly updated gear is better than grinding new

[spiral grove]

objectively is holding a lot of weight there

[twin bloom]

Plus you have the whole “illegal armor debate” now

[hallow wasp]

🎣

[sharp aurora]

Yea

[spiral grove]

casuals man

[pine fog]

Im not falling for the bait

[misty dawn]

casuals man

[twin bloom]

man

[misty dawn]

woman

[sharp aurora]

I just want everything that bungie sunset to come back
Is that too much to ask

[spiral grove]

critical thinking is outlawed

[twin bloom]

Yes.

[hallow wasp]

it's 8am go get a job if your gonna post this bad bait at this hour

[pine fog]

Yes

[sharp aurora]

EU

[sharp aurora]

Ik 😔

[twin bloom]

If you wanna know what bait is, it’s people saying Reaper’s Tithe is goated on that Desert RL

[sharp aurora]

Also after power gets reset to 200 (😂)
Are we going to have to grind to 550 (or maybe a 650 or 750)
From 200

[pine fog]

Yes

[twin bloom]

If Bungie actually resets us back to 200 I’m uninstalling. That’s it. End of story

[sharp aurora]

There’s actually no way they do

[twin bloom]

I can’t keep supporting a game that doesn’t allow itself to grow anymore.

[pine fog]

They justified all these changes as “the game needed to change because its a new era”

[solemn flame]

yay!

[pine fog]

But like it really didn’t

[spiral grove]

yea true bro you have to use one rocket to get the highest damage buff in the game thats such a waste of ammo

[sharp aurora]

If they just took a peek at anything online (twid shows no) then they would see only backlash

[solemn flame]

ur dumb

[misty dawn]

they should unpatch the grasp wall and all problems go away

[solemn flame]

I agree

[twin bloom]

Allow me to release a TWID to say that “we’re listening” but “we don’t actually care lol”

[spiral grove]

i think ive matchmade with u before

[twin bloom]

And then backpedal on what we were gonna nerf so that we get praised

[solemn flame]

yea and u were throwing

[sharp aurora]

Everything started going downhill once bungie patched the hole to WOF near red roof in the cistern

[twin bloom]

What happened to when they cooked with Into The Light man

[cerulean olive]

Wall of flesh?

[solemn flame]

what’s wof

[sharp aurora]

OH

[pine fog]

World of frogs

[sharp aurora]

well of flame

Slipping

[solemn flame]

you can still hit the load

[sharp aurora]

You go under the map and vert slip up the tube

[twin bloom]

I think the problem with EOF is there were too many changes and a lot of them had major issues or were half baked

[solemn flame]

is the one that leads you to the strike i don’t live on nessus

[pine fog]

Absolutely

[sharp aurora]

Idk

[hallow wasp]

they added loot that performed and was actually unique

and didn't throw the whole rest of the game out with it

[pine fog]

If it was just the expansion launch i dont think it would have been as negative

[sharp aurora]

I think eof should’ve just been Destiny 3 I’m being fr

[solemn flame]

yes

[hallow wasp]

iont think they could win with d3 either at this point

[solemn flame]

just add salvations edge and then grasp and it’s enough

[sharp aurora]

It would be something different

[hallow wasp]

waited too long and don't have the budget or competence to make it good

[twin bloom]

Oh and they made it to where the weapons would be usable and the first instance of enhanced weapons when Final Shape launched right

[hallow wasp]

for sure but I don't think they'd stick the landing

[sharp aurora]

There’s a lot of what ifs (Monte Carlo ornament) with what bungie could’ve done

[hallow wasp]

it's like how titanfall 3 would suck if it came out now because all the ppl that made titanfall 2 good have left or been fired from respawn

[pine fog]

Maybe they should’ve saved the money they spent on the star wars license

[solemn flame]

you guys r cooking

[sharp aurora]

The Star Wars expansion has to be good

[hallow wasp]

that license was found in a cereal box dawg

[sharp aurora]

Please

[solemn flame]

they should hire u

[twin bloom]

Me every expansion be like

[pine fog]

So true

[sharp aurora]

😔 too true

[hallow wasp]

Disney are desperate to make star wars popular again

[sharp aurora]

Btw are people still boycotting the epic raid

[twin bloom]

If EOF got ONE thing right, it’s the weapons

[pine fog]

Its their biggest cash cow franchise aside from marvel

[hallow wasp]

it's not a boycott if no one is playing it in the first place

[sharp aurora]

More power creep 😋

[hallow wasp]

it is insane that they're pushing to have two raid races for the same raid within two months of each other btw

[sharp aurora]

Ik

[twin bloom]

At least people actually want to use them instead of being forced to use them.

[pine fog]

I can’t imagine its gonna be THAT different

[hallow wasp]

there is not one person out here that thirsty for doing races

[pine fog]

But i guess we’ll see

[hallow wasp]

it's not

[twin bloom]

I think the whole tiered weapons give bonus damage system needs to go

[clear wigeon]

it didnt do anything right, it made the game more boring, have an awful system, made everything power grind based, removed nightfalls, and added the bs new gear bonus crap to powercreep old weapons

[twin bloom]

Like immediately

[hallow wasp]

and even if it is again who TF is down for this

[clear wigeon]

they also dont even add content with seasons now 😭

[sharp aurora]

Ehh
The nightfalls tbh were kinda meh

[hallow wasp]

I know all YouTubers nonstop talk about how contest mode is the one good thing in this game

[twin bloom]

It’s why they’re “free” now

[hallow wasp]

but besides them who

[clear wigeon]

but they removed the content and didnt put anything in its place.

[normal garden]

who up baiting they chat rn

[sharp aurora]

Yea

[pine fog]

Echoes battlegrounds were really enjoyable

[clear wigeon]

nightfalls have been a think since d1 i dont think getting rid of them was smart

[twin bloom]

No. Yes. Depends. Yes. Yes. Kinda Yes.

[pine fog]

And im sad they didnt do any new content like those

[hallow wasp]

fries with that?

[clear wigeon]

it honestly wouldv been fine if they js shipped it in a finished form

[sharp aurora]

Omfg

[twin bloom]

Bungie and finished content don’t get along

[clear wigeon]

im concerned with d2 dying bc of how bad the content loop is now

[normal garden]

as long as they're waffle fries im down

[twin bloom]

D2 is in a pretty bad state yes but I doubt it’ll die

[blissful scaffold]

@twin bloom steam hardware survey recently

[twin bloom]

It’s been through worse although this is really bad

[sharp aurora]

Wasn’t Sony stepping in?

[hallow wasp]

waffle fries machine broke

[hallow wasp]

they are

[normal garden]

large cut?

[hallow wasp]

but won't see the results of that until next year or sumn

[normal garden]

they always were, it was part of the contract they had

[sharp aurora]

May be cope
But amd gpus don’t report correctly on steam survey

[twin bloom]

I don’t speak computer. Is this which graphics cards have been the most used?

[sharp aurora]

Top of the list

[normal garden]

idk why people acted like it was such a big thing when it was always going to happen 🤷‍♂️

[hallow wasp]

I'm saying it's a positive

[sharp aurora]

Most are happy

[hallow wasp]

everyone cheered after Bungie went independent after forsaken and then we got three years of straight up sewage until wq

[sharp aurora]

I literally have been getting the urge to go play a normal levi
And I just can’t

[normal garden]

im not saying it isnt good, shake ups needed to happen. I just dont get why people are surprised

[twin bloom]

Worst part is you probably never will. If they truly don’t have a modern copy of the old D2 content then it’s over

[sharp aurora]

They said in court that they don’t have a playable version
That either means (good ending) they have the files but they’re just not updated for newer Destiny play

(Bad ending) they literally just wiped the files from their servers

Bad ending is a ?? Move by bungie
But ig that’s most of their recent moves

[twin bloom]

It’s why I say “modern copy.” If the files are truly outdated or worst case wiped, then you’ll never see that content again

[hallow wasp]

they dont

at best they have like the assets compressed and stored somewhere but they need to re create the actual mechanics and systems

if they had the content ready to be re added and played, they would have done so by now

[solemn flame]

It would be like a remastered raid

[sharp aurora]

That’s the logical thing

[coarse burrow]

bungie's incompetance knows no bounds

[clear wigeon]

me with my 5070ti

[blissful scaffold]

Good for you

[clear wigeon]

also my 14650hx + 4060m 😎

thats my favorite

i love my laptop

[hallow wasp]

it's not though xd

[misty dawn]

so baby pull me closer in the backseat of your rover

[clear wigeon]

how

[clear wigeon]

goat

[spiral grove]

eof did a lot right that people look over

[hallow wasp]

value compared to previous gen options isn't there and nvidia are tossing

[hallow wasp]

baiter is back

[misty dawn]

soyboy

[spiral grove]

we did it reddit

no way you said soyboy 😭

[misty dawn]

no way 😭😭

[spiral grove]

we've never had this many new weapon frames and types added in one update

and most of the new ones are free even

[steep shoal]

there is basically zero post campaign content compared to tfs and the systematic changes suck

[hallow wasp]

wow cool

[hallow wasp]

so is the game fun

[steep shoal]

armor changes are fine on paper but not when combined with gear tiering and the portal slop

also invalidates every single source of armor that isnt portal or desert

[hallow wasp]

also the rocket pulses have some audio mixing issue, they're half baked too dw

[steep shoal]

also exotics are stuck at t2 for some ungodly reason thanks bungie

could have let us cipher them for a tier upgrade!

anyways yeah the campaign was good and the story is good thats it bottom text

[hallow wasp]

i love the featured exotics system that lets bungie decide ur build for you for no reason btw

[steep shoal]

:)))

not only do they get to decide your build being good with dartboard balance changes now they will just NOT let you use it

thank you avant garde

[hallow wasp]

yah they just don't count it as new gear so your build doesn't exist

[shell timber]

what's a good heavy exotic that does alot of dps on its own

[steep shoal]

grand overture

[oblique timber]

ngl, iconoclasm might be one of my favorite missions in destiny

[misty dawn]

parasite

[steep shoal]

🎣

those who holster

[hallow wasp]

I love parasite but it is not it

[misty dawn]

🫣

[steep shoal]

overture is better than thunderlord without a storms keep i think??

not 100% sure tbh

[hallow wasp]

likely is

[steep shoal]

better for bosses you cant crit obv

the zoetic lockset encounter

bipod rockets are prob still meta there over it tho

[misty dawn]

the chaos reach in question

[steep shoal]

miku miku beam

[steep shoal]

icl chaos reaching zoetic is very peak

[misty dawn]

she will save us

[steep shoal]

warlock version of glacial quaking raneiks

[hallow wasp]

I love sundered doctrine

[steep shoal]

i love you glacial quake

[misty dawn]

funny how they still haven’t fixed the vesper time tracker

[steep shoal]

the entire year of final shape was great minus revenant (vespers was good tho)

revenant itself was pretty ass, ig contest of elders was pretty fun the first couple times

onslaught was NOT it though

especially with cabal drop pods on the spawnkill every enemy gamemode 😭

[misty dawn]

just memorize spawns or rib

[clear wigeon]

like.?

[steep shoal]

i wanna SIT ON THE SPAWNS GRRRR

😠

[clear wigeon]

its better than previous gens you dk what ur talking abt brother

[clear wigeon]

in every possible way the value is better.

[steep shoal]

🎣

[spiral grove]

“people look over these things”
“idc is the game gun”

[clear wigeon]

price to performance is better on every 50 series gpu than 40 series

[clear wigeon]

youd be suprised how many ppl genuinely think that tho

[spiral grove]

stat changes were fundamentally a slam dunk and solved basically every issue plaguing the stat economy

archtypes are a loot centric issue

[steep shoal]

"people"

[misty dawn]

stat economy

[oblique timber]

mood yeah. 50 series is kind of a joke. only "better" because of ai helping it

[clear wigeon]

they js made the game easier by making resil and recovery native, and making guardians insanely OP like we werent already

[steep shoal]

stat economy 😭

[clear wigeon]

now the game is even more ability focused yet again 🙂

[misty dawn]

give me my 10 resil and 100 mobil back

[steep shoal]

except all the bad builds are still bad and the meta builds are only getting better lmfao

season of the wish moment

[clear wigeon]

well yeah fair enough

[oblique timber]

thank god. now that I am actually using all of my abilities very often. makes it very fun to spam them in pve

[spiral grove]

yes every gameplay change is going to have a cascading effect thats up to the developers to solve, but at least power creep is an issue that bungie continually addressed

because thats just the nature of the gamw

[steep shoal]

i dont mind ability spam if its ability cycling but i think things where you press 1 button nonstop is kinda meh

[clear wigeon]

its fun but melee builds are way too strong for how free they are to use

[misty dawn]

that’s the profit of their game?

fomo

[steep shoal]

i dont understand bungies obsession with adding so many melee damage sources into the game and so little grenade damage sources

like it just does not make sense to me

[clear wigeon]

literally

[spiral grove]

all the bad builds are usable now with stat investment

[steep shoal]

theres literally one grenade damage exotic and its veritys brow

[clear wigeon]

i always have found grenade builds sm more fun

[oblique timber]

True yeah. doesn't really bother me tho

[clear wigeon]

well theres also starfire, getaway, amhamkara spine, off the top of my head

[steep shoal]

no i mean like direct damage increase

that isnt for a specific grenade

[oblique timber]

they should let people what they wanna use. I hope a blanket buff for all the bad weapons happens. so tired of nerfs

[clear wigeon]

thats true yeah

[spiral grove]

if you mean grenade damage bonuses i agree with you but there are quite a bit of ways to improve grenades rather than just an increase in damage

[clear wigeon]

js make good weapons again. that arent super OP like the rocket pulse

[steep shoal]

i mean i would say that grenades get cool modifiers instead but so do quite a few melees

[clear wigeon]

balance 🙏

[spiral grove]

true

[steep shoal]

i would like to see some of the more objectively weak abilities get buffed tbh

[spiral grove]

we had our weapon damage meta , an ability damage meta again is fine for a season or two

[oblique timber]

I mean, if rocket pulse is/was that good they should bring everything else up to that level. hate feeling like I have 0 wiggle room for guns for higher tier content

[steep shoal]

stasis warlock melee 💀

[hallow wasp]

value as in how much you spend to get the performance you get

[oblique timber]

"must have a" f that. let me have fun damnit

[spiral grove]

rocket pulse should get obliterated

[hallow wasp]

you spend less on an older gen but get similar

[steep shoal]

power creep is already an issue to a pretty big extent

i get your point but its not that other things should get brought to rocket pulse level good 💀

[hallow wasp]

weren't you just talking about how cool the new gun frames are

[oblique timber]

would make the game more interesting

[steep shoal]

i think the game already suffers heavily from dps being ungodly simple and boring

[steep shoal]

no it wouldnt lmao

[clear wigeon]

so how is some of the best gpus of all time only costing $550 and $750 bad?

[hallow wasp]

except a stat that changes player health is still terrible for pvp

[spiral grove]

uhh how does the uniqueness of a weapon relate to its damage output at all?

[oblique timber]

maybe not to its exact level. but like 65-75% would be good. give us options

[steep shoal]

you wouldnt have options

[hallow wasp]

"only costing" dawg xddd

[oblique timber]

variety is bad. got it

[spiral grove]

bait

[steep shoal]

your choices not mattering is bad*

[oblique timber]

mint retro spam it is

[hallow wasp]

your main selling point is the cool new gun frames and first thing you want is to make them not worth using

[steep shoal]

these two things can be bad simultaneously actually

[spiral grove]

dtg found

[steep shoal]

i dont think he said anything about making them unusable or bad

[clear wigeon]

you get 4080 performance for (which was over 1k btw) for $750, and 4070ti performance ($800 btw) for $550

its literally cheaper than before

[spiral grove]

i genuinely dont know how you found any subject in that sentence im sorry

[steep shoal]

i too think that the special ammo hold m1 thanks to rewind non precision weapon should NOT actually be doing more damage than most heavy weapons

[jagged sage]

Glaives are bad

[steep shoal]

WRONG

[clear wigeon]

obviously GPUs are expensive idk why thats ur argument, they always have been and always will be

[spiral grove]

real

[steep shoal]

so tired of this hold m1 meta

[oblique timber]

idk. I feel like having options isn't a bad thing. but yeah teams begging for crossbows and mints for raids is really working out in the fun department, huh?

[misty dawn]

heavy weapons r so dogshi this szn without temporal blast

[spiral grove]

i for one think a legendary special with no setup should not compete with rocket dps

[civic kettle]

this plz

[jagged sage]

Crossbows are better than glaives

[steep shoal]

have you ever considered not playing with the people who post these things

like this is something i just cant fathom

[misty dawn]

the plumbers say no

[blissful scaffold]

"Good for him"

[spiral grove]

after they fix crossbows i hope they buff them in roaming content

[oblique timber]

who said I raid? can see it easily tho

[steep shoal]

BRO

[jagged sage]

And then remove glaives from the game

[steep shoal]

you are not a real human im sorry for interacting with you for the past 10 minutes my bad

[oblique timber]

k

[clear wigeon]

complaining abt theoretical situations

[misty dawn]

crossbows are fine it’s temporal

[spiral grove]

then exotic crossbow that shoots glavies

[steep shoal]

you are getting mad because of a situation YOU ARE MAKING UP

[oblique timber]

k

[steep shoal]

i hate this place sometimes

[spiral grove]

if you dont raid how do you even have fun in d2

[hallow wasp]

schizophrenics united

[civic kettle]

ye once temp is gone crossbows are just gonna be the new worst heavy slot weapon

[steep shoal]

patrol farmers

[spiral grove]

a raid is like 40% of the content in an expansion

[steep shoal]

itd be really good for gms if you dont want to use eager
oh wait..

[hallow wasp]

thats what we said earlier

[spiral grove]

youre not getting your moneys worth

[steep shoal]

bring me back my sunless cell gms

[hallow wasp]

bc eof made raiding no longer a thing

[oblique timber]

good thing the dlcs are free for ps plus. well, most of them

[misty dawn]

don’t forget ab what they did to worldline 😭😭

[civic kettle]

I never played when it was a thing

[spiral grove]

i run crotas end post eof and get the strongest guns in the game 🙂

[steep shoal]

im not gonna lie duoing gm sunless with my friend on random loadouts was insanely fun

[misty dawn]

they nerfed it like 80% in eof lol

[civic kettle]

I will forever be mad about the mobility changes though

[civic kettle]

oh

[spiral grove]

its a bug

[steep shoal]

they gave it a cool ass rework just to nerf its damage out the ass (they didnt say they did this)

[spiral grove]

worldline isnt doing full damage somehow

[steep shoal]

like what is the point bro

[misty dawn]

i love stealth changes yum yum

[clear wigeon]

portal obviously, so fun!

[steep shoal]

mmmm yummy 20% overture buff for no reason

[civic kettle]

can we revert the luckypants change from last year

[steep shoal]

truth nuke

[clear wigeon]

bro it was so un needed

[steep shoal]

but but but you can erianas swap with it!!

[civic kettle]

probably for desert contest

[coarse burrow]

😦

[steep shoal]

disabled btw

[misty dawn]

they have to give a valid reason to ban in epic!!

[civic kettle]

coz of volley bug

[spiral grove]

portal lwky will have insane variety of content once gambit prime 2.0 gets added

[steep shoal]

used for internal testing btw

[clear wigeon]

ur takes are genuinely terrible

[civic kettle]

there's a bug where the volley can infinitely fire

[steep shoal]

"yeah the playtesters ended up settling on grand overture for the final boss"

[misty dawn]

welcome back chinese xeno

[steep shoal]

the disabled list in question:

[misty dawn]

me

[civic kettle]

it does around the same damage as a tlord + LoW swap

[steep shoal]

YEAH MAN 😭

[civic kettle]

like

[steep shoal]

its so ungodly good rn

[civic kettle]

almost exactly the same

[steep shoal]

surely its disabled again right

[spiral grove]

ah yes pve, pvp, and pvevp thats thats so little variety

[steep shoal]

what i wanna know is how are they gonna stop people from grappling the bosses in epic raid

[hallow wasp]

its always disabled for contest

[spiral grove]

back to caldera i go

[civic kettle]

if the volley bug still exists it's being disabled

[hallow wasp]

because the missiles break the netcode

[clear wigeon]

there is less content than we went into EOF with, yes its bad, its js all in one place now

[steep shoal]

like surely they do something to stop this

[misty dawn]

being in the raid breaks the netcode

[hallow wasp]

this is true

[coarse burrow]

"we playtested the epic raid using grand overture. that being said, grand overture is disabled, like our management

[misty dawn]

billi billi damage time

[spiral grove]

so in renegades we wont have dungeon lairs? you’re hilarious man

[steep shoal]

like there is zero percent chance they let us grapple the epic raid

surely

[bleak thorn]

wats your power level cap now?

[hallow wasp]

grappler modifier + grappling is against raid rules so if you press grenade your team gets orbit

[misty dawn]

fire

[steep shoal]

dude if they just disable grapple melees entirely im gonna howl

[clear wigeon]

you can keep coping man

[steep shoal]

no specific disables just grapple is gone

[civic kettle]

ngl they are 100% disabling outbreak again

[sweet valve]

"B-but they save like 30 seconds doing the dumb traversal so no grappling!!1!"

[hallow wasp]

they wont disable them they just tell you its against rules so if the vod has you use them you dont get the raid belt

[misty dawn]

put the grapple mod on the raid so u cant melee 🗣️

[steep shoal]

i am referring to the absurd damage grapple spam does with 200 grenade but yes this too

[ripe glade]

Is vault space a real issue?

[coarse burrow]

i just heard outbreak is crazy, idk

[steep shoal]

ong

[bleak thorn]

How do you know? We havent seen disable lists yet

[hallow wasp]

players arent smart enough to use grapple for speed so anyone who does has unfair advantage

[civic kettle]

it was disabled during contest DP

[clear wigeon]

not really now that armor is different

[steep shoal]

theres this thing called pattern recognition and educated guesses

[coarse burrow]

goated name btw

[hallow wasp]

because bungie is stupid

[ripe glade]

Are they gonna nerf tf out of outbreak if they keep disabling it for everything

[steep shoal]

reddit slop name im sorry

[bleak thorn]

True

[ripe glade]

Guns, we need to store all our guns

[bleak thorn]

!00%

[coarse burrow]

i just like seeing ppl appreciate skyburners

[civic kettle]

no it's just gonna be disabled if a raid has a boss with a very long DPS phase

[hallow wasp]

bungie thinks theyre inventing new wheel by removing the guns everyone knows are good for contest

[steep shoal]

the (adept) makes it reddit slop i dont make the rules

[misty dawn]

last foray

[civic kettle]

it's a consequence of outbreaks design

[coarse burrow]

fair

[bleak thorn]

only with two phase limited that's crazy

[sweet valve]

It can be solved by letting us collect any weapon out of collections for a static roll.

[bleak thorn]

I guess Thunder lord is a best option

[steep shoal]

fate cries foul....

those who know.....

[misty dawn]

the elephant never forgets.

[civic kettle]

tlord -> LoW swap

[steep shoal]

i will never forgive bungie for taking ep dragonfly off of trust after finally making 180s good in pve

actually the worst sin

[bleak thorn]

you cant swap it because of new swap modifier rule for Epic mode

[wide ice]

guys

[misty dawn]

don’t worry they’re good in pvp because of stat economy 😀

[coarse burrow]

does he know

[wide ice]

If someone told you I went from top 10% to top 100% playing with you, would you be offended

[steep shoal]

tricorn trust 2 tap technology 🤫

[civic kettle]

ur still able to swap weapons of the same ammo type

[steep shoal]

those who lightweight knife

[bleak thorn]

you better tell him now lol

[fickle badger]

@everyone
Goodnight everyone have a great day tomorrow

[clear wigeon]

'actually good'

[coarse burrow]

i meant u

[clear wigeon]

❌

[bleak thorn]

I already know lol

[hallow wasp]

they made 180s good and then gave vision of confluence 0 good pve rolls in the vog refresh

[steep shoal]

yes ep 180s are probably one of the only usable primaries

[bleak thorn]

yeah of course

[coarse burrow]

he doesnt know

[wide ice]

gaslight question huh?

[civic kettle]

ngl I wish I could be part of the team responsible for making the epic raid

[steep shoal]

i think the sundered hc and ep 140s/180s are like the only usable feeling primaries for me rn

[steep shoal]

legendary*

[misty dawn]

i’m bottom 1% i have no opinions

[civic kettle]

if I could pitch in the ideas I have rn holy fck I don't think anyone's clearing day1

[bleak thorn]

raid epic difficulty wont be easy but I will not surprise if TheSnappyRock clear world first for second time again

[steep shoal]

i dont think snazzy was wf but i wasnt paying attention to that one

was too busy laughing watching the batting cage of people repeatedly wiping on final

[coarse burrow]

i tried using tyranny of heaven for a little bit and holy f it felt so bad

[hallow wasp]

I have a demo ep trials 120 scout and really like it

[coarse burrow]

he was in fact wf

[steep shoal]

good for him

[bleak thorn]

wait what? Did you watch different the streamers world race all night?

[civic kettle]

me using midnight copium

[steep shoal]

had a vc of like 8 people watching the discord stream of someone in the call who had a bunch of twitch tabs open and we would just switch to whoever was closest

[bleak thorn]

Also he cleared solo Wyern raid boss encounter

world first

[steep shoal]

it was great we were all dying laughing at the saltagreppo swap incident

very fun social event

[clear wigeon]

only 140s 180s feel terrible still

also 2 burst pulses are good

[bleak thorn]

I gotcha but I hope you didnt mess up your sleep schedule lol

[steep shoal]

180s feel ok in onlevel but -10 they felt awful

[clear wigeon]

i like the crucible one with rewind destab

[steep shoal]

yeah this too they are underrated

2 burst pulses and ep hcs

[hallow wasp]

pull out the cruel mercy rolls

[coarse burrow]

saw the thumbnail and its disgusting

[wanton halo]

Do you think they'll ever add new Stasis and Strand supers?

[steep shoal]

was snazzy wf solo herald?

[steep shoal]

he was

[hallow wasp]

no

[bleak thorn]

yeah he was running Hunter. What a elite raider legit 100%

[steep shoal]

2 burst pulses are also disgusting in pvp but shhhh

[wanton halo]

Why

[cerulean olive]

Hi neonstorm!!!

[hallow wasp]

thats the slice + headseeker setup though, not cruel mercy but yeah

[cerulean olive]

Is this alt #4?

[hallow wasp]

budget

[wanton halo]

Tf?

[cerulean olive]

I haven't been counting

[steep shoal]

😭

[wanton halo]

Understandable

[steep shoal]

IT CANT BE.....

[coarse burrow]

he's good, just the dmg method is disgusting

[bleak thorn]

[wanton halo]

Idk what he's talking about lol

[coarse burrow]

surely not i hope

[misty dawn]

PlainPerson our savior

[steep shoal]

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH IT IS

IT IS NEONSTORM OH MY GOD 😭

[bleak thorn]

yeah also he soloed Atheon on Master Difficulty. He finished final encounter in least 2 minutes

[coarse burrow]

WOW

[steep shoal]

least obvious neonstorm alt holyyyyy

day brightened

[cerulean olive]

😇

[bleak thorn]

Who is that?

[coarse burrow]

maybe not???

[steep shoal]

no it 100% is the subclass comment cements it for me

and the oym cure one

and all of them tbh

its just neonstorm theres no shred of doubt in my mind

[coarse burrow]

no, neonstorm asks the same question 12 times in a row

[civic kettle]

😭

[steep shoal]

immediately starts asking bait questions

[coarse burrow]

i dont think its neonstorm

[coarse burrow]

i see why u think it is tho

[steep shoal]

nail in the coffin

its 100% neonstorm this is irrefutable

[cerulean olive]

It's a brand new account it can't not be

[coarse burrow]

F

[steep shoal]

asking how the game is doing just to say "nope its doomed" yep its neonstorm

neonstorm alt sighting is a sign of good fortune

[cerulean olive]

Ok I think this might be a lot higher than #4

[steep shoal]

theres quite a few 😭

[clear wigeon]

this is the life

[coarse burrow]

he said its doomed BEFORE he asked if the game has hope, that is a neonstorm move 😭

[misty dawn]

the silence is deafening

[steep shoal]

no i have it on oldest to newest

[coarse burrow]

hold on lemme check my block list rq

[sweet valve]

I really like the direction the game could be going...

[steep shoal]

neonstorm sighting catalogue 😭

[cerulean olive]

How could you block his alts he always leaves the server on them

[coarse burrow]

6:15am is before 5:42pm

[coarse burrow]

i block them as soon as i see them

[sweet valve]

The game ain't in a great spot rn, but the portal is a long term W.

[steep shoal]

oh i see what u mean now

its confusing cause it goes "hows the game doing" then "nope its doomed" and then immediately back to "does the game have hope"

truly a classic

[sour ermine]

Also being dead set on using void hunter

[steep shoal]

TRUEEEEEE

[sour ermine]

Never seen another person here talk about void hunter

[steep shoal]

we'll know if they leave ig

[cerulean olive]

@wanton halo thoughts on strand hunter?

[steep shoal]

its like seeing a rare specimen in the wild

[coarse burrow]

now THATS a neonstorm move

[steep shoal]

neonstorm sightings holding up my mood for the day like atlas

[coarse burrow]

next another H alt is gonna show up 🙄

[steep shoal]

idk who H is icl

[coarse burrow]

hannah

[steep shoal]

egads

who is this hannah individual

[sweet valve]

Void hunter is for PVP and doing encounters without getting shot by ads, and that's kinda it.

[misty dawn]

sundered goat

[steep shoal]

its pretty ok if you are 4funning

[coarse burrow]

a weirdo

[steep shoal]

like i think there are worse subclasses for sure

[coarse burrow]

and tether chaining with orpheus

[sweet valve]

Same with solar titan.

[steep shoal]

solar titan is just actually strong though

throwing hammer revert revived it

[sweet valve]

I long for the day that solar titan is viable in raids

[steep shoal]

pyrogale buff when

[sweet valve]

You read my mind

[cerulean olive]

I mean it is

It's just outclassed by grapples

[steep shoal]

seeing maul stunlock strat on crota was awesome

[sweet valve]

Not asking for tcrash damage, just viable for raids.

[steep shoal]

i would honestly argue its better than banner of war for survivability in solo dungeon style stuff if you are bad at the game

because you can just put on loreley and not die

with zero effort

[cerulean olive]

Ok but tcrash is like optimal for like koregos and tbh idk what else

[steep shoal]

everything you arent grappling LOL

for titan atleast

[sweet valve]

Pyrogales with Martyrs has major giggle factor

[cerulean olive]

You can grapple most bosses

[steep shoal]

this is true but not everyone is going to be grappling is my point

also you can grapple koregos

[cerulean olive]

It's not good on koregos though

[steep shoal]

its alright

[cerulean olive]

Like you can grapple shuro chi

But like it's pointless

[steep shoal]

afaik just bastion + 200 grenade still does absurd damage compared to things like tlord or overture

like without comblow or anything

[cerulean olive]

You aren't using bastion for grapples though

[steep shoal]

you should

[cerulean olive]

No

[steep shoal]

no?

[cerulean olive]

No

[steep shoal]

its double 1-2p

or is it dps loss regardless because of charge?

[cerulean olive]

And much slower

[misty dawn]

ding ding

[steep shoal]

i would have thought it wouldnt be dps loss if you cancel after first shot in the burst

good to know!

[civic kettle]

they're a tard

[steep shoal]

egads

[misty dawn]

x bow fourth horseman hunter dmg looks so hot

[steep shoal]

while we're on the topic of grapple melees am i insane or is hoil better than synthos for titan grapple

[cerulean olive]

You don't even have to 12p chicken bosses

But that's a personal thing

[misty dawn]

for actual #’s idk tbh haven’t tested

[steep shoal]

i would assume this is better than synthos

[cerulean olive]

It is I think

[misty dawn]

hahahahaha

[steep shoal]

prob not better than wormgods

but its got zero requirements

actually hold on

[misty dawn]

yeah just free dps for grappling

[bright olive]

Are contest cheaters allowed in this server

[misty dawn]

cloak doesn’t give bonus right just ability uptime?

on a separate note

[coarse burrow]

would these be multiplicative with each other when theyre both at x2 or additive

[coarse burrow]

yes

[cerulean olive]

Ye

[steep shoal]

grenade part is multiplicative but the melee part is additive

so assuming you have banner its 1.35(1+1+0.5)

[coarse burrow]

i mean with each other, assuming no other buffs

[cerulean olive]

Fuggleman used hoil for the 26min trio dp

So it's pretty awesome!

[steep shoal]

then yes technically

[steep shoal]

assuming my math is right its actually better than wormgod if you arent at x5

[coarse burrow]

and which one are ppl usually investing 100 into

[steep shoal]

its more than wormgod x4

[coarse burrow]

*200

[steep shoal]

grenade > melee for stat

grenade is like 65% at max vs melees 30%

you want both if you can obv

[cerulean olive]

Yeah it's good on hob and wyvern

[bright olive]

<@&714005656843059250>

[cerulean olive]

Because you aren't getting adds during damage

[coarse burrow]

x2 is already a 123% increase in the nade stat alone, going to 234% is melee is also at x2. math could be off tho

[coarse burrow]

this is assuming 200 nade and 100 melee

[solemn flame]

synthos

[bright olive]

No ?

[steep shoal]

its a lot closer than i thought

[solemn flame]

yeah I only thought it affected cds

[steep shoal]

actually wait hoil is better

hold on gotta double check math rq

[coarse burrow]

thats just class item

[solemn flame]

oh

[cerulean olive]

Hoil is better on hydra too

[misty dawn]

breastplate

[cerulean olive]

Yeah synthos just sucks now I guess

Bungie got what they wanted with it

[steep shoal]

hoil is 1.35*(1+1+0.5)=3.375
synthos is 1+1+1.65=3.65

[coarse burrow]

this is compared to a base grapple with 100 nade and melee

[steep shoal]

💀

ok out of curiosity

i wonder what it looks like if you dont use a grapple point

[misty dawn]

hoil def wins lol

[steep shoal]

like how fast would you get grapple back

[cerulean olive]

Fuggleman used it so that's all I needed to know ✌️

[steep shoal]

fuggleman clearly studied mathematics

[coarse burrow]

whats base cd

[steep shoal]

82s

[coarse burrow]

and 100 cuts that in half iirc

[steep shoal]

ill have to test myself im not ingame rn

should be like

less than 5 seconds probably

[cerulean olive]

Studies the game 🐐

[steep shoal]

i wonder what the dps looks like if you alternated between bastion frenzied blade and bastion grapple melee w/ hoil

[misty dawn]

what situation r u using titan over hunter as well

[steep shoal]

you could do it without a grapple point

[steep shoal]

love of the game tbh

[cerulean olive]

Bow

[steep shoal]

also to give banner to the hunter next to you

but that part doesnt matter 😃

[misty dawn]

fun is what matters 😊

[steep shoal]

😊

[steep shoal]

do u think the bubble/sentinel changes are gonna make it better than well

we dont know what they are yet

but do you think bungie will go that far

[cerulean olive]

No

[misty dawn]

after nerfing void titan into oblivion the last few season i dont see why

[steep shoal]

itd be REALLY FUNNY though

[cerulean olive]

It's probably gonna be unnerfing it tbh

[coarse burrow]

x2 is a 800% base cd regen, making that around a... 9 second cooldown??

[steep shoal]

if they randomly swung the other way and made bubble 35% or something

that would be absolutely peak imo

[misty dawn]

do you still need saint helm for overshield lol

[cerulean olive]

Weapons of light

[steep shoal]

it says it gives os but base ward does anyways lol

[coarse burrow]

no thats for weapons

[misty dawn]

ooo

idk the last time i ever used void titan

[coarse burrow]

and blinds ads that walk into bubble

[solemn flame]

bubble tech in verity!

[steep shoal]

praetorian storage method

[misty dawn]

my statement stands 😭

[past field]

When is maintenance today?

[coarse burrow]

pushing sd final boss into the door

[steep shoal]

that was bubble glaive actually

[cerulean olive]

The titan glaive is actually useful though

[steep shoal]

underrated asf

[misty dawn]

🤫

[steep shoal]

bubble glaive nbp tech

[cerulean olive]

5% that stacks with everything 🔥

[misty dawn]

can u still use any class glaive on any class

[coarse burrow]

felt easier using tractor but it coulda been placebo

[solemn flame]

yuh

[cerulean olive]

And you can crash people with quake + salvations

[steep shoal]

golgoroth speeds with the guy on gaze using bubble glaive and banner shield 🤩

[misty dawn]

they reverting that or nah

[solemn flame]

nah

[misty dawn]

😜

[steep shoal]

how long ago was this 😭

[solemn flame]

your crashing people in the tower?

[coarse burrow]

pantheon fs

[steep shoal]

might be tbh

[cerulean olive]

I mean I'm not playing but no

[misty dawn]

3 player emote

[steep shoal]

i just remember seeing war on banner shield for kf speeds and going "this is genius"

not war

[coarse burrow]

thats the only time i remember seeing it but i also dont keep up with speed strats

[steep shoal]

mars

how the hell did i mix up mars with war what is wrong with me bro

[misty dawn]

both goats

[solemn flame]

^

[misty dawn]

@quaint hollow mwah

[steep shoal]

true true true

[solemn flame]

he’s mwah genshin atm

[steep shoal]

war my goat ong

[misty dawn]

ugh

[solemn flame]

can’t blame destiny is so dead

[quaint hollow]

slamming noobs in geoguesser rn

[steep shoal]

i think its still used i just looked up aegis' wr vid from a year ago post tfs and it used it

[misty dawn]

name every location

[coarse burrow]

i do not be keeping up but fair enough

[quaint hollow]

spraxie guessed texas when we spawned on palm trees

[solemn flame]

genius

[coarse burrow]

oh nah

[quaint hollow]

baffling intellect

[misty dawn]

d2 farmers will save our country from ruin

[coarse burrow]

only thing i cared about were solo gm speeds

[solemn flame]

burgering edge now burgering geoguessr the loop never stops

[misty dawn]

stop spraxie hate

[solemn flame]

yuh

[solemn flame]

leave the rta demon alone !

[misty dawn]

The elephant never forgets.

[wanton halo]

i think d2 is dead

[solemn flame]

destiny rising was the real killer

destiny comitted suicide

[wanton halo]

it was bungie

[solemn flame]

wow really? no way

[wanton halo]

yeah the more you know

[solemn flame]

that is so crazy their twids has been perfect

nerfing solo ops 🔥

[wanton halo]

they dont want you to play the game anymore

[solemn flame]

100%

[alpine garnet]

peak

[ripe pond]

in 4 months

2024 will be 2 years ago

[wanton halo]

11k lol is something

[wanton halo]

you know that we are going to 2026 right ?

[misty dawn]

uchur peak

[ripe pond]

yes and august 1st was literally 5 minutes ago

[south snow]

Its over

[south snow]

67

[wanton halo]

soon

[south snow]

Enough time has passed destiny rising>d2

[solid goblet]

nah

[south snow]

Yes

[wraith spoke]

Hey I yapped with CHATGPT for a few hrs and came up with an exotic idea

Where would I post it cus ion wanna make a wall of text

[solemn flame]

the llm is working

[wraith spoke]

What's llm

[tight talon]

Yall think relationships between hive guardians and human guardians are legal?

[full yacht]

🍔

[steep shoal]

preferably in the garbage

libguides dot ecu.edu/c.php?g=1395131&p=10318505

😃

your slop exotic idea is not worth destroying the planet ty

[tacit ledge]

there's still people matchmaking for Vanguard ops LMAOO

[simple halo]

I do fear his usage of ai to make a model has a small effect on the atmosphere lmfao. If it bugged u that much you wouldnt be playing games that the developers use ai to develop. smh keyboard warrior.

[steep shoal]

"surely its ok for me to do a little evil because it has just a small impact" says 10 billion people who have collectively now made a large problem

[simple halo]

talk to your local elected officials not individuals on the internet lol.

[steep shoal]

generative ai makes me think maybe ted kaczynski was onto something

[steep shoal]

yes! you should!

[simple halo]

he may have been i fear

[simple halo]

xD L

[steep shoal]

you can do both btw this might be a revolutionary idea

[simple halo]

may be

[steep shoal]

maybe (probably not) if i yell at this guy then they will become enlightened on the problematic nature of generative ai and (probably not) go yell at THEIR elected officials

‼️

[simple halo]

Yes because demeaning someone who claims to spend hours on something and calling their idea practically trash over your political beliefs is going to encourage them to go seek knowledge on the subject.

[steep shoal]

political???? 😭

[simple halo]

Your impact was negative

[steep shoal]

also "spent hours on something" bro

[simple halo]

its a more political opinion since the only way of legislation is through political means.

[steep shoal]

they talked to a yes-man robot they did not spend anything of value

also its not useful since there is a 0% chance of it ever being implemented or considered by bungie

like its a fun thought experiment but there was no thinking

[simple halo]

and whats more important the development of humanity and technology that could possibly reverse the effects on the globe or to help in assistance to developing technology of which has less impact on the earth.

[steep shoal]

they just put in prompts and got told "wow such a good idea"

[simple halo]

they legit use ai to develop games....

[steep shoal]

yea they should not do that either i think

[simple halo]

most gaming companies xD

[steep shoal]

idk what part of this is confusing to you i think all use of generative ai should be exploded

[simple halo]

Then why complain about their impact on the atmosphere

[steep shoal]

because i dont like it

so i am complaining about it

LLMs should be obliterated entirely

[simple halo]

Dont disvalue others opinions or efforts to create something because of your own personal beliefs .

[simple halo]

I know theres nothing to do in the game but you can like go outside

[steep shoal]

"create something" btw

[simple halo]

Comparison between their like creative pursuit in regards to a game or hobby they enjoy to such a thing is silly work.

[steep shoal]

CREATIVE PURSUIT 😭

you are not a real human being

[misty dawn]

i want what he’s having

[steep shoal]

ong

i wish we could go back to neonstorm alt posting that was way funnier than generative ai slop discourse

[simple halo]

Some say if you spend 2 hours in a ai model developing some random exotic bungie wont consider can render the same results.

I wish we could go back to destiny being a playable game

[blissful scaffold]

@full yachtare u in game?

[steep shoal]

it is a playable game its just a bad one

[simple halo]

ive spent more time in destiny rising than destiny 2 this week which is sad for me.

[steep shoal]

egads!

[simple halo]

Its playable the same way prision is an option if you ever want to go commit a crime.

[wraith spoke]

Bro I don't care if it's useful I did it for fun I don't even play destiny anymore

[steep shoal]

why are you even here

[wraith spoke]

Idfk lmao

[steep shoal]

you dont play destiny anymore so you uh

made an exotic idea

[wraith spoke]

Once I get wifi I'll probably play again

[simple halo]

xD hell yeah you tell him @wraith spoke

[steep shoal]

with chatgpt

and then came here to post about it

an lfg discord specifically for a game you dont play

[simple halo]

yo shoot me this exotic idea lightspeed i wanna see if it cooks

[simple halo]

Shush you frog i wanna hear about this exotic idea

[steep shoal]

rising sure is cool i sure hope netease doesnt use it to milk money from vulnerable people via disguised gambling using predatory designs

that would be such a shame

[simple halo]

Its a gacha game thats to be expected

[steep shoal]

yes gacha games are bad that is what i am saying

gambling is bad

[simple halo]

at least their upfront about their monetization method, bungie makes you pay 100's of dollars for dlcs just to remove all the content from you randomly a couple years down the line

Oh hell yeah their bad but the content is good for a mobile game so i got no complaints lol

[steep shoal]

being "upfront" doesnt mean it isnt predatory monetization btw

[simple halo]

Nah ik

[steep shoal]

ok

[simple halo]

but if you play a gacha game you know that shi predatory

[steep shoal]

yes addicts know drugs are bad

[simple halo]

thats like upfront at the very least lol

they do a large amount of time xD

[steep shoal]

if im a heroin addict and my dealer is upfront that its bad for my health then its ok to take more heroin i guess

predatory monetization schemes are immoral and should be more legally restricted, we had this issue when lootboxes started taking off with underage gambling legal issues

[dusky wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/true-truth-nuke-super-truth-nova-truth-meme-gif-16889273424352737553

[full yacht]

ye what s up

[blissful scaffold]

join on me so i can test the seasonal pvp stuff

[shy flare]

yo, someone want to do the raid of destiny rising? (NA servers)

[wraith spoke]

Lmao save ur rant monetization has nothing to do with creative exercises

[full yacht]

im tryna finish up some stuff, getting off in 10 😭

[steep shoal]

i have not been talking to you for the past like 5 paragraphs

"creative exercises" btw

[blissful scaffold]

join quick please. thanks

[steep shoal]

clueless

[full yacht]

1 min

[dusky wigeon]

mmm on my weekend

[fervent veldt]

wsg gang

[alpine garnet]

hi chicken hi

[misty dawn]

huh

[fervent veldt]

hi knot hi uchur

hi repter

[misty dawn]

hi pip hi uchur hi repter hi toby hi risoryx hi secret asian

[solemn flame]

hi knot

[misty dawn]

hi spraxie’s wife

[solemn flame]

I wish

[full yacht]

sus

[misty dawn]

love is love.

[solemn flame]

hi hsdudes wife

[full yacht]

😭

[blissful scaffold]

@full yachti got plum error?

[solemn flame]

not so fast

[misty dawn]

not so fast

[blissful scaffold]

i still log in

[full yacht]

😭

[solemn flame]

2 minutes connecting

[misty dawn]

double plum

[full yacht]

have to do some pale heart stuff then getting off

[blissful scaffold]

okay go then

[solemn flame]

yo u had

[blissful scaffold]

i will ask chicken

[solemn flame]

18 months to do all that

[full yacht]

lmao i never did

im missing so many fragments

dont even have all abilites unlocked

[solemn flame]

throwing

[fervent veldt]

hi fz stn

[solemn flame]

hi chicken

[misty dawn]

you poor soul

have fun running cysts 😭

[full yacht]

😭

[solemn flame]

cysts in 2025 oh noo

[misty dawn]

i did mine right before eof

[solemn flame]

bro

[misty dawn]

LMAOOOO

[solemn flame]

what the fk have u been doing pre edge of fate

spent all his time in salvations edge ic

[misty dawn]

grasp of avarice

[full yacht]

😭

[coarse kernel]

can someone tell me how this is possible . the boss is half health but the encounter is over and i can still see ticks of dps on the boss .

[solemn flame]

someone cooked up a herald dps strat brah

[misty dawn]

reconnect

[full yacht]

wait can i do the same cyst again and again for the different fragments or are they tied to different cysts

[misty dawn]

i remember having to do all

[full yacht]

OMG