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[minor vigil]

the famous blue rocket does more

[azure pumice]

maybe not for you

[steel garnet]

literally nothing does more than crossbow, nothing is even close to its dps

[shrewd tartan]

If not, what is the best way to farm Kepler weapons?

[minor vigil]

the raid crossbow?

[steel garnet]

only sanguine whisper can do as much as it but then u can also combo crossbow with sanguine and it will do more anyway

[minor vigil]

i had that god rolled day one and my normal damage rotation was still better

unless they buffed it

[steel garnet]

because u arent using ur brain

do u know about the temportal blast mod?

it procs every second shot for the crossbow and deals additional like x1,5 of its dmg

[minor vigil]

there are 0 videos about this

[steel garnet]

so?

it's my original strat

[solemn flame]

?

[steel garnet]

people are just too dumb

[solemn flame]

it’s not a strat or a cook

[steel garnet]

whatever

it still is top 1 dps weapon in the game

[solemn flame]

I refuse to see it until aegis pulls up

[steel garnet]

u can argue with the facts or whatever but u will always be wrong

[minor vigil]

1k dps with it's damage rotation

there are better things

[steel garnet]

????

[rain light]

please do not use light gg for godrolls as the rolls suggested are just rolls used by the majority of the playerbase (low end of the community)

[minor vigil]

ima go eat

[steel garnet]

u are supposed to hold left click with it

not do any rotation

[normal nimbus]

What do you use to find god rolls?

[steel garnet]

u call that 1k? it's 10 shots within 16-18s WITHOUT ANY BUFFS, just plain left click hold

[rain light]

usually my own game sense but that comes with years of playing, but aegis is pretty good for these

[valid violet]

is that good or bad

[rain light]

extremely mid

[steel garnet]

heavily overpowered

[rain light]

if youre only doing 40k in a dps phase youre typically doing worse than whoever is on tractor

[steel garnet]

nothing else in this game does more dmg than this even with buffs, only whisper sanguine

[rain light]

😭😭😭

[steel garnet]

dude stfu

[solemn flame]

ts cope

[rain light]

your ragebait gets funnier and funnier

[steel garnet]

u troll

[rain light]

yes WE are ALL using the crossbow for dps on diddy’s soul

[steel garnet]

u re literally trolling and saying that I'm the one ragebaiting

[rain light]

no, 40k total damage is just completely trash in current meta

[steel garnet]

dude literally stfu

[rain light]

if youre not averaging 70-100k total youre actually throwing😭

[solemn flame]

what if it’s tech on explicator because of the burst dps and u quickly get the bolts

[rain light]

its not at all

[solemn flame]

new tech!

hit up spanel

[rain light]

get aegis in the shooting range

[steel garnet]

that's 10 shots without buffs and reclaimed ammo in 16-18 s

[solemn flame]

yup

[steel garnet]

nothing else in this game does more dmg without buffs in 16-18s

[rain light]

youre so right

[steel garnet]

yes I am now stfu

[rain light]

yeah youre absolutely right twin

[steel garnet]

yeah I am

[rain light]

crossbow meta! everyone run crossbow

[steel garnet]

yeah literally

[solemn flame]

always the na and uk arguing and it’s usually the na wrong

no bias here

[rain light]

(tlord gaps unironically)

[steel garnet]

this troglodyte didn't even test anything and is talking

[rain light]

i dont have to

[steel garnet]

tllord deals 35k in 30s with well and hellion on

[solemn flame]

that’s just not true

[steel garnet]

that's literally true

[rain light]

thats actually just ragebait😭

whats your bungie id

[solemn flame]

have u ever thought the shooting range is a bad place to test because I believe it’s just wrong

[granite inlet]

Does anyone know if it’s correct that getting health from devour doesn’t proc photogalvanic?

[steel garnet]

for example oryx tlords vs crossbow without sanguine

[solemn flame]

how do u know the boss doesn’t have different debuffs per test

[steel garnet]

tlord well hellion in 30s

[rain light]

they have to be the worst lfgs in existence 😭

[rain light]

check dms

[valid violet]

isn't that doodoo damage

[steel garnet]

yesterday I was doing master gotd and we accidentally wiped and we saw the dmg after the 1st phase

and my dude said to kick the other dude cuz he did 2x less dmg than me

he was optimized and was using tlord

[valid violet]

so half your damage

[steel garnet]

and I told him that barely anyony would do more dmg than that

because it's jsut the crossbow being this op

[valid violet]

wait wait

oh nvm i thouht you wiped in normal GOTD nvm

[rain light]

explain to
me how youre hitting 30k only with tlord when people were hitting 50-60 on contest dp

[steel garnet]

I was also doing normal gotd with 2 other ppl who were very good and ecthar went on 1 phase without an issue and in general it felt like extremely easy mode, I thought they were carrying af with the dmg, but then after the final boss I saw the dmg

[solemn flame]

it wouldn’t be possible for contest dp to be cleared if tlord is this bad even with a swap to lord and multiple t crashes

[mystic brook]

I told this fn to just use Sunshot it’s better

[steel garnet]

and the crossbow was still heavily on top

[rain light]

^

[valid violet]

i am the Relax (like the Lorax) and i speak for the casuals

[steel garnet]

like literally no one can deny that crossbow is the strongest weapon in this game cuz it's the facts

[valid violet]

wh- that's just 20 shots of whisper unbuffed without the catalyst

[mystic brook]

It’s not tho

[steel garnet]

whisper with well and hellion deals 30k in 30s

[valid violet]

since whipser deals about 1k

[steel garnet]

crossbow without any buffs deals 40k in 16-18s

[solemn flame]

I’m loading up the shooting range

[rain light]

so your argument is that in 16 seconds your crossbow is doing over 2, 200 stats cuirass tcrashes worth of dmg

[steel garnet]

crossbow deals over 2,4k precision without any buffs and additional like 3,1k every second shot

[rain light]

@late knot do you see how dumb this is😭😭😭

[stark relic]

how is this crossbow conversation still going on

[rain light]

mari mutual

[valid violet]

imma load into the shooting range cuz ik i had a loadout that did 2k dps

[steel garnet]

it literally is

[steel garnet]

in 1 phase?

[valid violet]

how do i spawn ads around unkillable targets in the shooting range???

[rain light]

yes bro

you HAD to hit that much to clear contest

[steel garnet]

without ultimates and additional rotations?

I literally said u dumbo that I was using only well and hellion

[rain light]

bro im deadass about to log on and just clear this all up

[solemn flame]

does ur tlord have catty

[steel garnet]

yes

[steel garnet]

on solo gotd crossbow did an easy 3phase, could be 2phase if I didn't mess up the dps

idk how many phases it usually is for other weapons, but someone said that they 6-phased it with a surrounded linear

[rain light]

that someone is buns at the game then

[steel garnet]

@coral stag they calling u buns

[solemn flame]

I think tlord is worst in dps and total damage but that’s also with getting ur crash back or super I was hitting 45k mostly crits

[coral stag]

💔

[steel garnet]

honestly I sucked at that dps almost every single time, when my dude was using divinity I hit the boss every time the weak spot wasn't on, or sometimes I missed the shots, or barely hit any headshots, or the boss accidentally tped etc.

I'll test how much crossbow deals with 10 ammo (like 16-18s still) with well on (only well)

[hallow forge]

uhh light gg just bugged out and now i can see someone elses entire vault lmfao

[steel garnet]

wait this test wasn't actually necessary cuz it's 25% more so 50k

cuz base is 40k

70k in 30s (full well, still only well on)

although the dps shown above with well is a lowered cuz casting well starts dealing some trash DoT before starting to shoot

that's why the 30s parse is more accurate

the same goes for using hellion

can't test sanguine cuz I wouldn't have well but with arc sanguine should be like 100k as I said

and that's still without surges

and I usually run 2 surges, so +17% dmg

[lean turret]

Semi-New player here still trying to get a hang of everything. What's the best way to farm enhancment cores?

[fringe oak]

do u know where i can find the right perks for a godroll weapon ex: yeartide apex

[steel garnet]

xur 1-cost engrams

he gives u either some garbage gear or cores or banners or the old preeof modules or whatever they are called

and u can dismantle the modules and they will give u 1 core

na considering that u can easily and quickly reach the xur coins cap, it's free cores

[valid violet]

ez

[lean turret]

ah gotcha, thanks! also are legendary or master lost sectors still a thing?

[steel garnet]

just play solo ops for drops

lost sectors are useless

cuz u can unlock all exotics through rahool

[valid violet]

with radiant

[rain light]

ideally youd want to ask someone with prior game knowledge

[lean turret]

jeez so much has changes since i last played haha are there items i can use to boost enhancment core rewards or is that not a thing?

[steel garnet]

I think u can only spawn a champion

[valid violet]

how did they not think about this

[steel garnet]

idk what u mean tbh

[valid violet]

and WHY for the love of god did they use in-world interactibles instead of a clean concentrated UI

unironically just copy warframe for this it ain't that hard

[steel garnet]

well at least we finally got a shooting range

[lean turret]

i think i saw a post that said using an item and it gives more enhancement cores as a reward for activites...probably not a thing anymora

[valid violet]

?

[steel garnet]

fr 1 bpass xp and 6 glimmer?

u freaking psychopath

[lean turret]

ok cool, what is a ritual activity

[steel garnet]

this season probably all kinds of portal ops

[lean turret]

sweet, easy enough

[valid violet]

Vanguard ops, Gambit or Crucible

but vanguard ops and by extension nightfalls got removed

oh nvm apparently nightfalls still exist?

i don't understand why they didn't move ALL of crucible to the portal but i disgress

[wide ice]

use d2 foundry

[steel garnet]

ritual activities were always activities somewhat connected to the season, as the old crucible or gambit which also had their own seasonal objectives

[hoary plover]

Nightfalls still exist in director

[steel garnet]

so I believe this season it's the portal that is ritual activities

[prime pollen]

is there anyway to collectr a firesprite from a distance

[steel garnet]

as the map gambit and crubible is basically dead now

[lean turret]

Thanks for all the info!

[steel garnet]

crubible

[sullen vault]

greetings noobs

[fringe oak]

thanks man

[steel garnet]

I'm 97% sure not

[supple plume]

bro, how are so many people 400+ while im still at 305 doing solo caldera for hours every day

😭

[echo parrot]

People don't have jobs

[outer igloo]

they got a huge power boost before Bungo nerfed Encore. People skyrocketed to 250-300 before the Encore ban

[echo parrot]

That too

[steel garnet]

it was only like a few days

• farming before 300 is a lot faster

[supple plume]

I can tell. Ten missions today and only went up 5. I started today at 300.

[steel garnet]

305>400 should take like 30h worth of slow farming

[supple plume]

its kind of abysmal

[steel garnet]

with breaks etc.

[supple plume]

like, I just wanna get to gm level so I can use modifiers that I like lol

[echo parrot]

Dang, that's crazy, I jumped from 293 to 305 last night in about 2 hours

[supple plume]

dude, I did like 30-50 power a day for a week from 100 to 300

and that was brain numbing

I hope they change it somewhat, or just make it less brainless of a grind just doing two activities

[steel garnet]

ye they already announced they will

[supple plume]

please, bungie, dont mess this one up

[outer igloo]

I'm noticing this now. My climb from 10-300 was faster than 300-350. Took me a solid week to get to 350, and now I'm trying to go 350-400.

[outer igloo]

I tried a GM level yesterday, so I could check off the GR9 requirements. Bruh. Even with all the help (green ones), I got slaughtered.

[ember oar]

Is the weekly mythic missions supposed to give tier 5s?

[outer igloo]

although, I was 351 trying to do 410 content, so... 🤷‍♂️

[supple plume]

until you get about -40 or -30 you do neglegable damage and get one tapped, so its not even worth trying

[outer igloo]

yep.

lol

[supple plume]

wth is a mythic mission bro?

are you snorting?

[ember oar]

Bruh u don’t know ? 🤣

[fading magnet]

Everybody is saying to just queue caldera but why not the quick play solo ops because it gives the bonus rewards aswell? isnt more loot = faster light level?

[supple plume]

what did I miss

[ember oar]

A lot apparently

[azure pumice]

The amusing thing is that really broken encore farm was still only slightly faster than good k1 hive farms

[supple plume]

because people are dumb and want only a 3 minute activity / dont care about extra stuff, just guaranteed rewards

[azure pumice]

And most people doing it were farming very suboptimal runs, in which case solo ops were just objectively better

[azure pumice]

Quick play is very slow typically

[supple plume]

how do you speedrun a k1 with 45 weapon kills as the bonus?! LIKE BRO, CHILL ON ME

[azure pumice]

If all you care about is min/maxed grind, optimizing a specific op is generally much faster and less effort

[azure pumice]

Spam mint (or whatever other ad clear weapon you have) as you go past ads, you can get 20-30 kills on the tunnels

Then get the rest during the boss fight

[supple plume]

I usually do, but I only ever come out to boss area with barely 20 most times

[brisk sage]

Mint retrograde+ choir of one with onslaught as perk (destabilising explosions can steal kills) also choir slaps for quick precision kills

[azure pumice]

If you have a really high objective like 60 kills you can farm a bit in the entrance encounter

[supple plume]

Does the game just not like me

[supple plume]

if only I had the onslaught refit

[azure pumice]

You should definitely have more than that, about 35 enemies spawn in the tunnels

[ember oar]

Creation to be nicer 10-15 kill objectives ez

[azure pumice]

Id slow down for a run or 2 to learn spawns first if you're struggling with kills

[supple plume]

not for me 💀

[azure pumice]

I've done k1 300 times, they definitely spawn but they can be easy to miss if you're going fast

[supple plume]

but like, at 300 just farming k1 for most runs is all Ive done

[supple plume]

my speed is a curse, gotcha

[ember oar]

Wait til u get 400🤧it’s mind numbing

[azure pumice]

It won't be eventually once you learn spawns

But for now it might be if you're missing more than half the enemies

[supple plume]

I know about the opening ambush, and tunnels. I know backup comes from the back door as well in the tunnels

[azure pumice]

Like 8 or so spawn from each door on the first room, 10 or so in the pit in the second room, then if you wait a couple seconds another 10 will spawn in that room

[supple plume]

okay, now its precision kills. BUNGIE, I HAVE AN SMG AND ROCKET PULSE

[azure pumice]

Should be between 30-35 in the end

[supple plume]

stg, this game just hates me

[azure pumice]

I just orbit if I get too many precision kills

[outer igloo]

I must not be doing something right on the K1 farm. It doesn't seem to be fast for me.

[azure pumice]

I run choir so it's not too bad, but k1 precision is a pain

[supple plume]

you'll never guess where I am now

[outer igloo]

I've been scanning the portal for anything with bonus drops, especially multiple, and prioritizing those first.

[azure pumice]

I farm on hunter and get around a 2:50 average iirc (ignoring the occasional orbit for 25 prec kills)

[supple plume]

only a pain to do precision on non cabal

[outer igloo]

But then I get on fireteams who don't understand how the scoring works, and just blow through the activity when it's set to "final blows" and we never get the A

[azure pumice]

On titan with practice you can get it down to like 2:20 by skipping one or both shield phases, though it's too much effort imo

Keep in mind you can use your sparrow in this, so I'd recommend learning to sparrow the transition to save time

[lean turret]

Are master dungeons and artifice armor sets still a thing?

[azure pumice]

This works well until 300, but I believe after that bonus drops don't drop as +, so they're only really good to even out your light

[outer igloo]

oh, dang. in the whole lost sector?

[azure pumice]

Only up to the point where you drop down

[outer igloo]

oh wow. Yeah, that makes sense then.

[wide ice]

its a titan op

[azure pumice]

I find sunspot breaks too much effort personally

k1 is still as fast as/faster than caldera if you do the boss fight as intended, so I just play hunter

[outer igloo]

I was wondering why yesterday I did a "+3 bonus drops" activity, got the A, and only 1 of the 4 drops was 3 levels higher. The others were on light

[fervent veldt]

i usually get 2-3 min runs on k1 when its hive

[fervent veldt]

what

[ember oar]

Bungie should change creation where u only get A+ score if u kill all champs 🤧

[outer igloo]

So then at 353 is it worth going for the portal bonus drops? Or save those for when I have like one item lagging that isn't targeted anywhere

[wide ice]

Go for anything doesnt matter till ur 400

[azure pumice]

sunspots break her shield, so if you want to you can speed up the boss fight by as much as a minute by using them to skip both shields. Alternatively, if you have a high enough dps burst, like fury thundercrash, you can use one buff pool to break both shields and save like 20 seconds

[outer igloo]

cause then at 400 you're a slave to the Prime RNG gods

[azure pumice]

imo though the activity is already fast enough and I like to be able to only half pay attention and watch a show or something, so I just do the boss normally

[azure pumice]

😭

[azure pumice]

I ignore the green engrams typically, though if you have a piece of gear that's significantly behind it can kind of help

[supple plume]

we hate bungie when they "overhaul" systems that were "performing under expectations"

[azure pumice]

once you get to 400+, bonus drops are treated as world drops (10 under light) so theyre literally just unstable cores

[valid violet]

what light + guardian rank do tier 3s start to randomly drop?

[azure pumice]

as in world drops? or prime drops

prime drop t3s start at 200

world drop tier 3s are at like gr7 I think

maybe 8

[valid violet]

holy schmolly

im gr5 and light 225

[steel garnet]

300 power

[azure pumice]

at 300 light they become guaranteed drops from A

[supple plume]

okay

60 weapon kills!? Are we deadahh

WHAT IS THIS GAME BRO

[valid violet]

ez

try 30 precision kills on vex

[supple plume]

sometimes I have to question bungie's life choices

[dusky path]

Are Swords going to be the next Arms week?

[valid violet]

bungie's life choices can be reduced to "Ferrari or Rolls Royce?"

[valid violet]

i hope it'll be sidearms

[dusky path]

where can i post a screen shot

[valid violet]

here

[dusky path]

wont let me paste

[valid violet]

dang

[ember oar]

I’d leave and load back in 🤣

[supple plume]

Im about to say fk it and uninstall for now

even COD looks more appealing to me rn

[valid violet]

binding of isaac been bussin since EOF dropped

[dusky path]

i can past it in the d2 fashion but not sure if it will get removed.

[valid violet]

unlocked Tainted Lilith and im in love

[valid violet]

dm it to me

[halcyon ivy]

where is the best place to grind solstice tier5s? i just hit GR8

[valid violet]

crucible i think

or quickplay solo ops

[dusky path]

Odd i cant post images lol

[valid violet]

i can for some reason

[dusky path]

but yeah thats in collections. makes me think its swords and something else next

[valid violet]

yeah ur right it might be swords

[full yacht]

Server level

You need to be lvl 15

[dusky path]

ohh. how do i level that?

[valid violet]

where do i see my level

[dusky path]

you have 'Image' role it looks like

[valid violet]

i just yap about trials and that gets me 5 levels per hour 😭

[full yacht]

I think you gotta go to the mee6 website?

[supple plume]

can we talk about wizard k1 boss?

[valid violet]

(5 levels is about 1k messages)

[supple plume]

and how acoustic the mechanic is

[valid violet]

i got almost 10k

[dusky path]

ohhhh

[valid violet]

the one on the moon?

[silent laurel]

hopefully they dont know shoulder skullfort in pvp, 200 melee just one shots eeryone and refund hahaha

[supple plume]

yes. It takes god awfully long to spawn the light pool

[valid violet]

you mean the breakable construct? Yeah that's a thing for K1 for all factions

fallen version takes 5 years to spawn the servitor

[dusky path]

/register

[supple plume]

dont get me started

[valid violet]

ASIDE from the fallen sniper drones still hitting like you owe them money

like, i still die to fallen drones on advanced but i course through expert without issue with any other faction with all modifiers

[supple plume]

alsom does guardian rank influence drops now? I hear a lot of wishy washy feedback

[valid violet]

yes.

basically, bungie hates you

[supple plume]

where should I try to be? Im at 6 now

[valid violet]

you should try to be at 11 for ash n iron

[supple plume]

jesus christ

Im not doing allat

while farming power

[hollow folio]

does anyone know if they are updating trials loot pool?

[valid violet]

im joking, but i think for now it caps out at rank 9? for tier 5s i mean

and 400-450 light

[supple plume]

so work my way up before 400

[sour ermine]

You have to farm for power regardless because you need to be at 400 power for rank 8 anyway

[dusky path]

Max you can get is 9 at the moment. Need Ultimate mode unlocked.

[azure pumice]

Guardian rank influences world drops. It might also influence prime rates, but we don't have any actual evidence supporting that to my knowledge

It does not however influence completion rewards in any way, if you get to 400 light at gr 2 you'll still get t4s

[supple plume]

no wonder its always under by 10

[sour ermine]

Almost every single requirement is just using a certain type of modifier anyway

[cinder tartan]

can they just add exotic class item to the featured exotics. so annoying they punish doing the build you want

[azure pumice]

It doesn't affect light, just tier

[supple plume]

oh

[azure pumice]

World drops are just always under by 10

[supple plume]

right, me dumb

[outer igloo]

where do you see that?

[steel garnet]

why does it say that the emblem is still available

is it somehow possible to play kell's vengeance?

[outer igloo]

need 400 for Rank 9. It's a GR8 objective, but getting it unlocks GR9. So technically, to be Rank 9 you need 400 power.

[sour ermine]

No

Unless it gets added to the portal

[outer igloo]

I'm just waiting for them to invalidate my build next season by un-featuring all the items Im using now, which means my nice T4/T5 build will be pointless. Again.

[azure pumice]

I mean the damage reduction from armour isn't super important

so it's mainly just weapon changes

and I assume the featured gear will stay featured until renegades, not ash and iron, so we have a little while still

[sour ermine]

It will be important because featured gear increase the score at the end of activities, which mean you can use less modifiers and still hit A rank

[azure pumice]

ah fair

[floral bridge]

My second character, aside from the Titan, is the Warlock. Should I still focus my attention on Super and Weapons? I had in mind, since Warlocks are mostly supposed to be an enhancement class for the other two, to put the points into Weapons and Class ability (for when they fix the cooldown bug)

Thoughts?

[outer igloo]

i mean, 15% DR isn't nothing to sneeze at

it's not 30% like the old T10 Resliience stat, but it's something to lessen the impact a bit.

[empty belfry]

Ok how do I get the Ikelos weapons now? Is Seraph's Shield still available?

[outer igloo]

Okay, Solsitice power leveling question. I've got a third character (Warlock) that hasn't crafted the solsitce armor yet. That's all going to drop +3 (or +4?) as soon as I start crafting it. How should I effectively do this?

Craft an armor piece on Warlock, go to Hunter, round out, rinse and repeat until all 5 are unlocked? I don't have any high LL armor on my warlock so I really can't play anything at the appropriate level and expect to get an A score.

[amber hollow]

Hey is the kepler loot cave still a thing?

[timber heart]

need help with guardian Rank 5 requirements

[unkempt musk]

is there a rotation on what lost sectors get solstice drop, like do we know for the before reset today

[halcyon ivy]

when you craft the armor, it will be the same LL as whatever your kmain is + 3

even if you only have 10 LL on lock, you will craft it to say 320 or whatever you are

[valid fiber]

I hope it’s caldera or k1 today

[outer igloo]

yeah, my account power is 353. So the 'lock will craft at 356. That's why I was aksing for most efficient route.

If I craft on Warlock, that isn't going to raise my account power though will it? I cant infuse warlock into hunter

[timber heart]

whats this website called

[sour ermine]

Stats depend on the build

There is no default that changes based on the class

[outer igloo]

destiny-power-bars

[outer igloo]

you can see the same thing on destiny recipies dot com slash power

and actually, destiny recipies shows you what to pull from the previous season pass rewards to get highter LL item, and relevant portal activites to do on that character

albeit, with more ads

[azure pumice]

It's not nothing to sneeze at, but the choice between 65% grenade damage or 15% dr is easy imo (though the score bonus is still probably enough for me to get new gear)

[azure pumice]

The ideal rotation if you have enough pieces to even out your power is to use 3 +3s per 2 levels, evening out your power every level

Every level you'll either have your over light gear at +1 +1 +2 and need 2 drops or + 1 +2 +2 and need 1 drop

If you can wait to 400 to do that, it'll save a lot of grinding if you plan to go to 450

[outer igloo]

okay, so craft a solstice piece on warlock, then play on which class? Hunter or Warlock?

[azure pumice]

Any class, doesn't matter

[fleet dagger]

bro you cant nerf an actually weapon thats alr balanced, its just prob the best sniper there is now since you can get it t5 and it has best perks

[outer igloo]

I don't think I'll hit 400 before Tuesday

and the Lock is the last character to craft solstice gear on

[azure pumice]

If you have enough season pass gear to even out power, you can just do what I suggested all at once

[floral bridge]

I mean, Titans generally prefer a Super build 'cause of their Supers, right? Same would go for Hunters if they use Celestial, or another burst super. But Warlocks?

[azure pumice]

Otherwise, use the crafted items to jump to the next light level whenever possible, or to fill in missing items that are -

[misty dawn]

celestial even with stat is butt this season unfortunately

[fleet dagger]

melee for titans always most important, did you forget they are a punching machine?

[floral bridge]

Sure, that too. I have high melee, super, and weapons. Was wondering what for Warlocks. Grenades, Class, and Weapons?

[fleet dagger]

depends on build

grenade if grenade build for example

[floral bridge]

My builds are always self-made, I never follow videos or posts around the internet. This is the first time I actually ask this type of question, 'cause I was curious. Either way, before this update, I always did around 4 to 4.5 milion of damage.

[wet oxide]

is the game on maintenance? im getting centipede erros when logging in

[azure pumice]

Regardless of whether you buildcraft or watch a video, your stats are dependent on your build

[timid vine]

T4 gear starts dropping when you hit 300 right? Or is it 350

[mystic brook]

It’s not Zero knight WP then I’ll believe you

[azure pumice]

300 for solstice and prime t4

[mystic brook]

Banned xD

[timid vine]

But once solstice is over, it’ll be tier 3s again until I hit 400?

[valid violet]

imo run whatever you want. Base content is easy enough to allow that. I only had to switch to QB for Hefn (WR) on a teaching run and kept everything else as before (solar titan)

[outer igloo]

400

[stark relic]

you get matterspark 4 from the explore quests, and your other characters will get level 4 after beating the campaign

[azure pumice]

Unless you get a prime drop, which is +1 tier, yes

At guardian rank 9 with the clan level 4 boost, that appears to be about a 10% drop

[narrow shoal]

Rare chance at 300, goes up as you approach 400, then guaranteed at 400

[azure pumice]

From my memory of the <400 grind though, I assume it scales with guardian rank, so you probably won't get a ton of 4s until 400

[fleet dagger]

starts at 300 becomes 100% drop at 400

[azure pumice]

I don't believe the rate of t4s increases throughout 300 though, to avoid confusion

Unless you increase your guardian rank

[outer igloo]

theres a clan component as well? guess I need to go find a clan now....

[finite spruce]

idk the death to kells ship is in the loot pool of normal eververse engrams, does anyone know where i can see the entire loot pool of her engrams?

[floral bridge]

How do I unlock Matterspark 4? I already did quests on my Titan, and I think I still have Matterspark 3 on my Warlock

[azure pumice]

Yes, at clan level 4, primes become slightly more likely (though it's not significant, I went from like an 9% rate to about a 10% rate or something like that)

Definitely worth finding a level 4 clan if you plan to go to 450 though

[mystic brook]

You get a prime every 20 runs guaranteed

[azure pumice]

It seems that way yeah

It seems like there's a pity timer there to make sure you aren't too beholden to rng

[outer igloo]

anyone in a Lvl 4 clan recruting... lol

[fervent veldt]

do the fabled quest

[thin timber]

you need to not be beholden to rng at all

[azure pumice]

Which I assume is where people are getting the 5% drop rate, despite seemingly no evidence supporting it

[azure pumice]

#clan-recruitment

Just look up the clans there on bungies website and find one

[lapis grail]

No, I got 2 tier 4s at 256ish. They’re just rare.

[azure pumice]

The t4s you got were solstice holos. Which drop +2

Rare and during this event only

[lapis grail]

I see that, and also it was a pair of gauntlets.

[wet oxide]

armor can also drop +2 if you get it at the same time as a holo weapon

my first t5s were a holo gl with a tier 5 helmet at 302

[azure pumice]

Yeah holo weapons will always drop an armour of the same tier with them

[floral bridge]

I already did it on my Titan, buddy.

[azure pumice]

As long as you have at least one armour unlocked

[fervent veldt]

then either do it on mythic or progress the campaign on your other characters

[outer igloo]

if you get to 300, you can do the Weekly Mission and get a T4 armor if you've attuned one at the Altar. Then, at 350 you can do the upgrade and that makes your weeklies T5

[floral bridge]

I... used 2000 silvers to skip it on my Warlock? I currently have no quest available. AND I did both mythic and fabled quest on Titan weeks ago. So?

[fervent veldt]

idk then

[amber hollow]

Man, I wish good aeon adapter gloves would drop

After that happens I'll have to get a good 4 piece techsec

[cobalt echo]

Stats depend on the build don't it

Kepri's horn -> Class

ashen wake, melee whatever, tcrash spam

Each would have a diff stat split

[floral bridge]

@cobalt echo You know what to do?

[cobalt echo]

Mastterspark is the direct reward for completing the campaign on a higher difficulty

That's all there is

[floral bridge]

But I had a quest on fabled or mythic. I don't have that on Warlock, now

[cobalt echo]

If you don't have the quest for explore fabled, then try checking the kiosks in caldera, or a quest archive or smth

If for some reason it's impossible for you to get those quests, then you are probably out of luck

[floral bridge]

it's not an issue per se, it's just matterspark 4 comes in handy 'cause of the healing

[outer igloo]

Matterspark 4 is a reward for completing the Explore Kepler questes on Mythic

[cobalt echo]

Mythic or Fabled? Both quests seem to have it as a reward

[outer igloo]

and if you've already done those on one character, you need to complete the campaign on any other character. I did mine on Mythic, then did the campaign skip on the other two.

[hoary plover]

Either mythic or fabled explore quests completion grant matterspark 4

[cobalt echo]

That's what I figured

[cobalt echo]

Cc: @floral bridge This might be what you are looking for

[floral bridge]

Explore Kepler quests? So i need to re-run the strangelets and then run the campaign missions?

[hoary plover]

Mythic or fabled explore quests only need to be done once. You can even do different stranglets/missions with different characters but never twice. Benefits apply to all characters once unlocked

[floral bridge]

But I don't have the quest to track the objectives.

[floral bridge]

That ain't true. I seem to have Matterspark 4 on titan but not warlock. I can't see healing ability after three seconds when i turn into ball.

[hoary plover]

There is no way in the game to get explore fabled or mythic quests once you've completed those on one character

I just checked on alt characters. Both have matterspark4. I haven't touched those since I completed normal campaigns on those and sieve for exotic

[floral bridge]

What about campaign skip with silver?

[abstract spoke]

iirc they added adept dungeon weapons with rite of the nine for GOTD right? Did those get added to master or were they event exclusive

[outer igloo]

The Stranglets, and then you gotta do the "last mission and kill the boss on [selected difficulty]"

[hoary plover]

Campaign skip should be equivalent to normal campaign completion

[floral bridge]

Well, i can guess i can go and see if the strangelets are there with the Warlock. So, in that case, get those on fabled and kill the Archont?

[hoary plover]

I actually checked on alt characters and there are no stranglets on the map either

[floral bridge]

So why does it seem I have 3 but not 4 on secondary character? I tested it. There's no regeneration when I turn in ball.

[hoary plover]

Can you try this please. On kepler open map, then map guide, go to abilities and check matterspark unlock progress for characters

[hazy goblet]

guys, what's the english name for the -30 campaign mode?

[hoary plover]

fabled

[hazy goblet]

wait actually what do i have to do on fabled?

[floral bridge]

Number 3 still shown. i'm gonna experiment and see if I can unlock it. Guess it ain't retroactive for everyone, lol.

[misty dawn]

how would ada-1 feel if i blew my brains out in front of her

[hoary plover]

Mythic unlocks focusing upgrade which needs fabled explore also, you don't need to repeat on fabled if done mythic already. Unless for the triumph

[halcyon ivy]

i rarely play my titan ever, is it worth playing rn over my lock?

[hazy goblet]

i will do both

but i didn't get what do i have to do

[hoary plover]

If it shows matterspark3 for 1 character and 4 for another, it's most likely bugged, may be due to campaign skip. Reach out to Bungie, I'm sure they'll help given you spent more money and now have this issue

[hoary plover]

There are 2 quests - explore fabled and explore mythic. If you do explore mythic (higher difficulty), that also unlocks the armor focusing upgrade at altar which requires fabled so you don't have to do fabled again

[valid violet]

so is this just a lie then or...

[sour ermine]

They're useless until renegades

[floral bridge]

useless.

[valid violet]

so hold onto them?

[sour ermine]

As of now cyphers are useless, but the ones we have now will be usable later

Same applies to nightfall cyphers

[sour ermine]

Yup

[valid violet]

also did they say anything about focusing? Because trails is literally worthless right now outside of (personal, gross, and VERY disturbing insults towards trials players) battling it out?

i feel like most other guns' rolls aren't as horrible as trials weapons rolls (or acquiring rate)

[sour ermine]

Nope

[outer igloo]

When you try to copy this look, but realize you didn't play enough in "Wish", "Witch", or "Deep" seasons to get the arms, chest, or leg ornaments

[valid violet]

to be fair, all of those were mid af

[outer igloo]

i dunno... i like that look honestly. But it wouldn't work for me cause I'm not using Relatvisim atm.

[ripe glade]

How do I get a mint gun with enhanced perks I need? What light do I need to be

[verbal field]

enhanced perks are t2

which you consistently get at 200+

[valid violet]

d2 dead

erm, it's right behind me, isn't it?

[ripe glade]

Looks like ammo generation is actually worth building into huh

[steel garnet]

I want to test crossbow against koregossss

[hoary plover]

Has anyone tried encore mission from exotic quest rotator (legends tab from director, not portal)? I tried just after Tuesday reset and it was bugged (no loot). Checking if it's fixed ..

[wet oxide]

is anyone else having issues with guitar error codes

[steel garnet]

why would u do normal encore?

[civic kettle]

three chest mods

[ripe glade]

What

[steel garnet]

no but I'm having issues with finding ppl for dp

[civic kettle]

ammo generation mods

[valid violet]

this guy has exactly 1500 hp

[hoary plover]

To get some of the weapons + armor I missed out on from last season. That should have been the standard loot pool

[ripe glade]

Aren’t there ones for helm that add to ammo gen

[steel garnet]

probably vaulted

[wet oxide]

is this a proposal

[valid violet]

i don't think you get them from encore?

or do they drop from there? pretty sure they don't tho

and if they do, it should be like 3 drops per full run

[hoary plover]

In that case there's no reason to add encore to exotic quest rotator. Literally got 0 loot, not even glimmer. Most probably Bungie just forgot to assign loot pool and obviously they depend on players for QA these days

[steel garnet]

well if u can carry me through dp final boss then sure

I can do only the lasers

[valid violet]

DeePstone crypt

[wet oxide]

just learn the whole encounter

[hoary plover]

Encore was added for the first time this Tuesday. For all other exotic quests in the rotator, you get the weapons (including 2 red borders) and armor from that season

[valid violet]

OH RIGHT! Remember when they said they'd do something about the catchup for revenant and heresy? Bet bungie forgot

since they took out crafting and instead made us drink drugs

[hoary plover]

Yeah, that was what I thought as well

[valid violet]

oh sorry, self-made illegal concoctions with high potency

then when heresy released, all Revenant content broke for no fkin reason AT ALL

[floral bridge]

What is the max material hold on Kepler? One thousand?

[hoary plover]

999

[deep junco]

I need help I've acquired the outbreak perfected rewind rounds perk, now how do I get the perk on the outbreak do I need to craft it? Where do I craft this?

[floral bridge]

There's no point farming them all aside from shader. You can just farm Caldera and then wait for the engram day and use messages.

[cobalt echo]

it's quite nice, Always have heavy and such when I need it

[sour ermine]

The enclave, same as every craftable exotic

[weary fern]

Heavy ammo is important!

[deep junco]

@sour ermine tyvm!

[hoary plover]

You need to play the witch queen campaign first to unlock crafting at enclave. Unless Bungie changed it this season

[outer igloo]

messages?

[pale gazelle]

the colony has 100% ammo gen

[steel garnet]

FOK LIKE HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO JOIN A DP RUN FOR NOOBS WHEN PEOPLE DON'T EVEN ACCEPT MY APPLICATION

[outer igloo]

what did you mean by this?

[floral bridge]

Guhhh, the legendary thingies you get from playing on Keplar. They're called "Messages of Destiny" in my language. You can hold 100 at once.

[wet oxide]

#find-a-sherpa dont use fireteam finder

[steel garnet]

I applied for a DP sherpa and didn't even get accepted

[outer igloo]

oh, fated ciphers?

[static ledge]

I don't think I'll even make it to 300 before ash and iron

[hoary plover]

Get weapons to 200 or as high as you can and you won't ever have to worry about ammo regen, except for mythic bosses. Large ammo bricks overshadow most other mechanics

[floral bridge]

Sure, I guess.

[outer igloo]

gotcha. I thought that's whay you meant, but I wasn't sure if I missed a side quest or mission or something.

[static ledge]

I'm at 230 on my three characters, but 400 isn't happening on the time that I play each night

I only play at most 2 hours a night

[outer igloo]

the way bungie adapts the game to different regions/locales/languages is really kind of cool

[bright grotto]

You can change your region with the /region command. Must be performed in one of the text channels.

[floral bridge]

What is a Cipher, anyway? That makes no sense. It doesn't mean anything. "Messages" in my language at least means something.

[outer igloo]

no thanks lol

[static ledge]

honestly, besides leveling up and bright dust stacking, I'm not really doing much in the game

[outer igloo]

A cipher in my language could be interpreted as "code", so I can see where they get "messages" from that interpretation

[outer igloo]

same. I'm levelling trying to get some good stat roll T4 armor, T5 if I'm blessed. Good rolls on weapons. Id eventually like to do the raid, but I probably need to find a clan first

[pale gazelle]

I'm stopping at 300

[static ledge]

I'm just bored only doing k1 and the other one

[pale gazelle]

I kinda do whatever has the loot I wanna farm

[static ledge]

I get weapons, vault them, and just feel bored

[pale gazelle]

either that or just the playlist

[floral bridge]

400 is fine, come on. You can do 99% of stuff and get tier 4.

[pale gazelle]

I'd rather have fun, if 400 happens while doing it, sure. but I'm not getting out of my way to farm at 400

[hoary plover]

The state of the game is pretty boring to be honest. Solo ops is the most efficient way to level up, which gatekeeps higher tier stuff in general

[pale gazelle]

They're trying stuff rn, I'm just curious how they'll improve

hoping soon

I will miss seasonal activities tho

[floral bridge]

I'm just waiting for them to reskin Taniks again. Maybe they'll make him final boss of the saga.

[hoary plover]

Beyond stats I'm still not sure how much do tiers matter. Was using mint retrograde T2 for much of the gameplay. Got T5 from conquest and haven't really felt a difference

[pale gazelle]

its simply not happening lol

[floral bridge]

That, or Randal the Vandal (for the few who know.)

[outer igloo]

I finally got a good roll on that yesterday, but I'm having a hard time putting down Outbreak

[hoary plover]

I started edge of fate with choir as main weapon and left (got bored) with choir still in energy slot. Only times I have taken choir out is for mythic missions where outbreak performs better

[steel garnet]

omg the language barrier hurts so bad

like I would join some dp sherpa but I'm so awful at spoken English

I mean in general spoken communication

[floral bridge]

Accents are fine, I'm italian. You gotta know the general structure phrase, though.

[steel garnet]

nooo cuz I literally stutter while speaking English

[outer igloo]

i did the same. That crutch helped me through Legendary Campaign. Then I threw on Outbreak and never looked back

[steel garnet]

and I hate my accent, it sounds so cringe

speaking English makes me so insecure

[zealous shoal]

is solo ops on a daily rotator

[steel garnet]

so shameful

[zealous shoal]

half the ppl i sherpad couldnt speak english

[floral bridge]

You can try speaking just when required and remain in a more passive role. Just make sure to say it in chat, first.

[wet oxide]

99% of people in lfg either have or have heard a worst accent dont worry about it

[hoary plover]

No, same set of missions since edge of fate launch. Solstice engrams only drop from one mission per day which rotates daily

[wet oxide]

im spanish and people have told me i sound australian, irish and russian just off the top of my head

[zealous shoal]

so it is on a daily rotator ok

thx

[steel garnet]

I usually respond on the chat but some ppl require mic for some reason

[floral bridge]

'Cause it's faster. Especially with symbols.

[steel garnet]

in general writing is a better way to communicate unless emotions are important

[wet oxide]

if im sherpaing i require mic 100% of the time because you gotta learn the raid properly

[hoary plover]

Don't worry about it. Also, you'll be listening to sherpa most of the time

[steel garnet]

tbh I write faster than speak

I've heavily neglected spoken communication in my life ngl\

[floral bridge]

Ehhhh, social stuff? I've been in the same situation, but I've learned to adapt and break the ice.

[steel garnet]

ye but I also hate logorrhea no matter the language and most people tend to do that while explaining something

[cobalt echo]

Some people raid without talking a single word, those go smoothly enough if people know what to expect

[steel garnet]

considering I easily dissociate while listening to people explaining sth in my native language, it happens even more often while listening to somebody in English

[cobalt echo]

Most people in lfg dont adapt however

[steel garnet]

would have been easier if there were text sherpas

[civic kettle]

unfortunately

[steel garnet]

I usually teach randoms through text and it's definitely more efficient

[umbral halo]

Guys someone can help me? I died at the boss in Charge mission and cant respawn, i died soon i killed the boss, so the game dont find a place do ress me, someone can enter in my game and ress me or simple active the reactor?

[steel garnet]

or I just explain better cuz I don't do logorrhea

[cobalt echo]

Issue with this is that the text box is meh

[steel garnet]

u mean like it's too small or?

cuz for some reason a lot of ppl don't even notice when something shows up on the chat

meanwhile I see it instantly

[cobalt echo]

No, blocks of test are just hard to read with the line spacing

And then there's a limited number of lines at once

Less convenient for explanations and stuff

[steel garnet]

well u rather want to split thoughts in different lines

not write everything in the same message

just like we do here

it's much much easier to read and understand

[ashen pecan]

if i do the 3 dungeons that were in right of the nine do they still have thjeir updated rolls?

[steel garnet]

unless u mean like the lines above vanish and have to be scrolled?

perhaps it feels different on consoles

[winged apex]

Does anyone have a clan to where me and a few friends can join our clan has sadly died but we are looking for a clan that has the staffs from season 1 to 15

[steel garnet]

#clan-recruitment

[azure pumice]

oh god oh no oh god

it's salt mines

[alpine spear]

Guys. What is there to do in D2? I already grinded to 400 and have all tier 5 gear. Where's the content?

[azure pumice]

do the raid 🤷

[alpine spear]

What is there to chase

[azure pumice]

do old raids/dungeons

[alpine spear]

Raid loot ass, already have a solid set with all tier 5

[azure pumice]

idk play destiny, it's not like the old content got removed, most of it just doesnt give good loot anymore

you asked where the content is

[alpine spear]

Yea, what's the chase?

[azure pumice]

if what you really want is good loot, there isn't really anything unless you want to farm a t4 set of the raid armour

which is definitely valuable to do, but whether you personally want to do it obviously up to you

but atm the only places that give good loot are portal and the raid

[steel garnet]

??? literally crossbow??? top 1 dps weapon in the entire game???

[alpine spear]

Crossbow ass, we didn't need a linear rifle with a skin and a longer reload animation

[steel garnet]

nah dude u re ass

[alpine spear]

Nah

[azure pumice]

probably true tbf

[steel garnet]

nothing else in this game has even anyhow close dps to crossbow

[alpine spear]

Dps isn't everything, where's the fun in that

[steel garnet]

it's literally fun

infinite ammo against close enemies

[vocal marten]

Subjective

[steel garnet]

u can climb on the arrows

[alpine spear]

[steel garnet]

u can even farm adds with it

without wasting ammo

[vocal marten]

Dps is the main part of the game

[regal carbon]

Is there a way to get unstable cores fast? Why did they add this crap for infusion?

[steel garnet]

dude called crossbow a linear wtf

[vocal marten]

So mad someone doesn’t like a weapon for what?

[alpine spear]

Well yea but why get anal about numbers.

[vocal marten]

I understand

[steel garnet]

name the best linear in the game and the crossbow has at least 2x more dps than it

probably without any buffs too

[oblique zodiac]

Do I have my portal activities set wrong? Running on Expert with modifiers. I get like 5/6 drops on Kell's Fall but only one piece is maybe 2 points above my light currently 207. The rest are 200 flat

[vocal marten]

That and you being mad because bro doesn’t like a weapon are both facts

One more embarrassing than the other tho

[alpine spear]

You're talking about numbers, I'm talking about using something you like and having fun

[steel garnet]

it still is one of the most fun weapons though

[vocal marten]

S u b j e c t i v e

[steel garnet]

and on top of that u can also run any other nonheavy exotic u want

[marsh shell]

For the flamekeeper triumph, do you just have to have the 4 piece effect up or do you need to have all 5 slots taken

[alpine spear]

Idk just feels like we're on the perpetual hamster wheel that's never going anywhere if there's no goal

[vocal marten]

He doesn’t know what subjective means

[alpine spear]

[steel garnet]

I love when no names talk about crossbow

[alpine spear]

No names? Wow

[vocal marten]

I love when EU users show off their “superior education”

[steel garnet]

u don't even have a crossbow and u re talking s about it??

[cobalt echo]

No names is wild

[viral oriole]

i dont have a crossbow i do want one tho gonna have to find time to do raid like lol

[alpine spear]

Never said I don't have one. Go scroll up and show me where I said I don't HAVE one

[steel garnet]

that sounds like u re insecure about ur education

[steel garnet]

and have u tested it?

[vocal marten]

I know what subjective means. At least I’m doing better than you :)

[viral oriole]

all this talk about a primodial weapon i want it now!

[steel garnet]

dude I didn't even comment on this

[alpine spear]

Yea, that's why I said it's was ass and don't like it

[steel garnet]

yeah because u re a no name and don't know how to use it

[vocal marten]

You kept saying “fun” when fun is a subjective thing. Fun to you doesn’t mean fun to everyone. Don’t be dense

[alpine spear]

Sorry I'm not a content creator

[coral stag]

what solo ops focus

[steel garnet]

me neither

[viral oriole]

i been playing around with that finality auger, it needs more buffs on it tbhj

[steel garnet]

but I have a brain and know how to experiment

[alpine spear]

Ok so you're no name too

[steel garnet]

and one day I put temporal blast on my crossbow

[cobalt echo]

I find the concept of the crossbow fun, and the explosive bolts. But the reload is insufferable

[vocal marten]

You “it’s fun” and bro said “not to me” and you started insulting him

Huge brain move there

[steel garnet]

dude seriously whatever

I'm superior so whatever is fun for me is objective

[viral oriole]

i seen this mojo about i thought i was the only one!

[vocal marten]

Dense asf

[alpine spear]

[cobalt echo]

Uk mojo o.o

[stiff falcon]

i js got buried bloodlines on the first run 😹

[viral oriole]

good god i hope we dont get near paradox may happen all will fall!

[steel garnet]

u are literally telling me that I don't know what subjectivity means, like seriously dude just grow up

[alpine spear]

Dude can't be REAL!

[cobalt echo]

Saying something is objectively fun is an incorrect statement

[vagrant forum]

when the rage bait is effective

[stiff falcon]

i think u meant subjective

[steel garnet]

arc reload mod on arms literally exists

[vocal marten]

It’s not bait at all

[alpine spear]

Nice. Took me 30

[viral oriole]

does new crossbow get bait and switch

[cobalt echo]

I know, and even with impulse amplifier I still find it too slow for my liking

[iron sinew]

every time i look in here it's the same dude being insufferable

[stiff falcon]

30 weeks 💀

[cobalt echo]

Nope

[vagrant forum]

it gets like nothing

[steel garnet]

the reload is fair though considering that it still does more dps than anything else

[prime pollen]

Is there a machine gun ideal for stunning koregos or is it better to use outbreak or a linear etc,

[viral oriole]

at least its something new aint it

[vocal marten]

Another perfect “I don’t know what subjective means” take

[steel garnet]

u mean his laser?

[stiff falcon]

tempest strike got buffed 🙀

[prime pollen]

yeah

[cobalt echo]

The name of the game is super generation rn, unfortunately the crossbow isn't able to surpass that

[steel garnet]

just take a sniper rifle with rewind magazine or sth

[formal condor]

You get 3 tries a week 10 weeks

[steel garnet]

or the perk that reloads ammo after precision hits

[stiff falcon]

oh deadahh?

[vocal marten]

Bro sees “I don’t like it” and goes “YOURE WRONG!”

[prime pollen]

would, but kinetic is reserved for outbreak and energy reserved for trace rifle. Doing Challenge

[alpine spear]

Watch out, they have a hard on for the crossbow

[cobalt echo]

Icebreaker 1 shots the arm, and it has very nice ammo gens

[steel garnet]

sniper rifle from the portal ops

[cobalt echo]

Best bet is a linear

[iron sinew]

they lost it on me bc i didn't like their warlock fashion 💀

[prime pollen]

would, but kinetic is reserved for outbreak and energy reserved for trace rifle. Doing Challenge

[prime pollen]

prece

[outer igloo]

which trace?

[vocal marten]

😭 why bro lose it on the mf that owns this cord???

[iron sinew]

ong

[formal condor]

He said he got it in 30 clears, and you get 3 tries per week, took him 10 weeks OR he got it from farming when exotics were farmable before EOF

[prime pollen]

any solar one, people dont like void cause the majority of enemies do void and the boss does arc so they get confused

[steel garnet]

sniper rifle from the portal is void, energy slot

[prime pollen]

would, but kinetic is reserved for outbreak and energy reserved for trace rifle. Doing Challenge

[stiff falcon]

i js got dungeon keys i didnt know

[steel garnet]

what do u need that trace rifle for

[vocal marten]

On god though bro doesn’t know what subjective means at all. Opinions much match his or you’re wrong and he will insult you 😭

[cobalt echo]

I prefer using scintillation for my needs, and in my opinion I really really enjoy multimach then switch to outbreak for dps

[prime pollen]

would, but kinetic is reserved for outbreak and energy reserved for trace rifle. Doing Challenge

[vocal marten]

Mf gotta be from Eastern Europe

[cobalt echo]

Pointing out mines, it's incredibly useful

[outer igloo]

ive got my Outbreak locked in the Kinetic slot, and currently have Ahab Char in the Energy, mainly so I can scorch and stun champs

[steel garnet]

there's a challenge for trace rifle?

[formal condor]

You get 3 tries per week for the dungeon exotics 1 try in each character

[severe wyvern]

What’s the best way to farm the material to get the armor glows etc?

[outer igloo]

But that gets me called out for running "double primary"

[steel garnet]

as the laser stunner?

[cobalt echo]

Constant can do both mechanics and stun

[prime pollen]

would, but kinetic is reserved for outbreak and energy reserved for trace rifle. Doing Challenge

[stiff falcon]

i only have a hunter. my other characters arent even past the tutorial

[prime pollen]

Read the message challenge (impossible)

[worldly cypress]

my soltice bond is not glowing , i know this is a known bug, but is there a way to fix it?

[outer igloo]

im so confused. What challenge?

[steel garnet]

dude literally shut up cuz I'm telling u I know such stuff better than u

[cobalt echo]

Another mention, you can have a person not do constant at all during challenge. Depends on what rotations are set

[iron sinew]

so true !

[formal condor]

Then you only get 1 try a week

[vocal marten]

Eastern Europe for sure

[steel garnet]

ask @prime pollen not me

[stiff falcon]

💀

[prime pollen]

Tell me more, i thought challenge was everyone has to do each role

[stiff falcon]

warlock or titan next?

[cobalt echo]

Challenge is everyone has to dunk. The minimum is everyone do cyclical

[steel garnet]

honestly idk if my country is in eastern europe but why would that even matter

[vocal marten]

Again it’s not about numbers friend. It’s about enjoyment. You can’t tell someone they enjoy something that they in fact do not enjoy. You can’t be that dense

[prime pollen]

i see, useful tysm

[cobalt echo]

I'll dm you my rotation for challenge

[steel garnet]

yes I can

[vocal marten]

You gotta be AI

Mf is a ChatGPT bot

[steel garnet]

why are you so mad?

[formal condor]

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[steel garnet]

I literally just said that crossbow is fun

[formal condor]

There’s no way I come in here and that’s what I see

[steel garnet]

and u can't stop yapping about subjectivity

[vocal marten]

And they said it wasn’t for them

[prime pollen]

i js dont like the reload

[steel garnet]

so?

[vocal marten]

Multiple people actually said it’s not fun

[steel garnet]

so what?

[vocal marten]

And you insulted them

[steel garnet]

not because of that

[vocal marten]

And told them they were wrong

[steel garnet]

????

can u even read

[vocal marten]

Oh so you lack reading comprehension

They told you so many times it’s not about numbers.

[steel garnet]

it was about dps not the weapon being fun

[vocal marten]

SO many times they said they’re not arguing numbers

[steel garnet]

he literally said it's ass

[vocal marten]

You’re AI

[steel garnet]

crossbow is still one of the more fun heavy weapons in the game anyway

[vocal marten]

Is east? Then yes.

Is west? Then no.

[steel garnet]

no matter what u say

[vocal marten]

Hope this helps!

[steel garnet]

it's like in the middle

[cobalt echo]

Fun is subjective, you can't declare that something is universally fun

[outer igloo]

what are we witnessing right now....

[cobalt echo]

That statement is nonsensical

[vocal marten]

Controversial take for this guy

[steel garnet]

google says central europe

[outer igloo]

dang it.... lol i had the perfect GIF for this

[vocal marten]

Explains a lot actually

[steel garnet]

if central europe is eastern europe then yes

[iron sinew]

clearly the crossbow is objectively the most fun weapon ever !!!

[cobalt echo]

Mhm, I can understand being enthusiastic about the crossbow, it's fine to say it's your favorite too.

But to say it's "the most fun, and the best" is just wrong

[steel garnet]

r u rlly that mad to use country based generalisation? am I supposed to talk about u being from na too?

[vocal marten]

To argue that it is fun with someone who said “I understand the numbers are better, I just don’t enjoy using it” is wild ngl

[steel garnet]

u must be so insecure being american wtf

[vocal marten]

You can.

[vocal marten]

Okay.

[cobalt echo]

Innit

[ashen pecan]

what time does the twab drop usually?

[steel garnet]

u showed in this conversation so many times that europeans insulted u so many times in ur life because u re from na

so now u re doing the same thing towards europeans?

[vocal marten]

Okay

[steel garnet]

ohhh ur so hurt that now u will just comment like this?

[cobalt echo]

Around now, it'll drop eventually

[steel garnet]

bro folded so quickly

[vocal marten]

I just know when to stfu and move on :)

[steel garnet]

yeah when u re getting psychically destroyed?

[ashen pecan]

"its the most fun" is a subjective topic too

[steel garnet]

the fact that I didn't even have to insult u anyhow

[vocal marten]

You… aren’t near me friend. You can’t physically destroy me 😭

You can’t be a real person

[cobalt echo]

Indeed it is

[steel garnet]

ur own insults and fake xenophobia against others backfired

[vocal marten]

Okay

[steel garnet]

cute

[vocal marten]

Did you know if you connect your top lip to your bottom lip you’ll shut the fck up?

[ashen pecan]

what are we even fighting about

[steel garnet]

do u know that I'm using my fingers to type, not my lips? do u write on the keyboard with ur lips? u re sick man

[misty dawn]

diggin in butt

[cobalt echo]

Discussion on crossbow and subjective statements have devolved into strawman

[formal condor]

Just ping the mods at this point

[blissful scaffold]

Fallout tvshow finally got companion mod

[vocal marten]

Okay

[blissful scaffold]

Attention seeking

Their parent neglect them

[ashen pecan]

the destiny community be like
"i like dogs"
"youre the worst person ever"

[tired oriole]

salt minesss

[steel garnet]

dude couldn't stop talking about me allegedly not knowing what subjectivity means for like 15 min and then started trying to insult me through generalisation about eastern europeans

[tired oriole]

it doesnt even matter

[vocal marten]

It was Central Europe though

[bleak thorn]

How is Fallout tv show? Should I watch it?

[vocal marten]

Yep

[static ledge]

honestly, if someone tells me they don't like dogs, they don't get to be in my life

[vocal marten]

Man this guy isn’t real

[static ledge]

yeah, it's good

[blissful scaffold]

Really, of all the thing, you hasnt watch it?

[vocal marten]

Watch out Clyde

[static ledge]

huh

[long elk]

When the light it’s resetting ?

[static ledge]

what about bonnie

[blissful scaffold]

@static ledge when u will be here?

[ashen pecan]

110 days

[bleak thorn]

No I only played Fallout game. I am loving it but never watch show tv before

[static ledge]

we're figuring that out. I'm pushing for christmas

[blissful scaffold]

U should after i played the game.

[bleak thorn]

lol ok thank you Secret Asian Flan

[blissful scaffold]

Christmas is fire

[static ledge]

I might push it to february so I can have all of tet

[solemn flame]

he’s right

[vocal marten]

He pushed his dog off him in stream and he hit the dresser or whatever behind him and the internet lost it for a little bit.

Destiny streamer, btw

[steel garnet]

that I don't know what subjectivity means?

[cobalt echo]

I too would lose it

[blissful scaffold]

Or that, Tet is better for Feb

[solemn flame]

yuh

[vocal marten]

They weren’t wrong lol

[static ledge]

in February, I could take off a whole month from work

[blissful scaffold]

Less traffic since people going back home

[static ledge]

I've been saving pto

[cobalt echo]

The issue everyone had is that you were passing a subjective statement as objective

[steel garnet]

so what

[vocal marten]

You’re not real

[steel garnet]

do ppl rlly get mad because someone finds their statement superior?

[cobalt echo]

because it's wrong, and makes you sound arrogant

[steel garnet]

should I care that it makes me arrogant?

[cobalt echo]

you probably should ngl

[blissful scaffold]

He could have show remorse to the dog and Internet forigive him

[static ledge]

yeah

[steel garnet]

it's quite ironic because what u re saying now is SUBJECTIVE

[winged patio]

I fear there may be no more Solstice farming

[steel garnet]

morality is subjective

[static ledge]

not when it comes to dogs

man's best friend

[steel garnet]

people who eat dogs wouldn't agree

[cobalt echo]

I'm not saying that my statement is absolute though, in this case it's an opinion.

[blissful scaffold]

Wish internet doesnt bully much to fox owner

[static ledge]

did you see another viet place got shut down due to dogs yesterday

[winged patio]

I refuse to farm Creation or Salt Mines

[blissful scaffold]

Where ?

[static ledge]

yeah, I just do k1 or caldera

[floral bridge]

I wouldn't mind eating dog's meat. My country doesn't allow it, though.

[blissful scaffold]

Excuse me?

[steel garnet]

I mean meat is just meat

if it was tasty enough

we eat cows anyway

[static ledge]

in london of all places

[steel garnet]

how are they different from dogs?

[winged patio]

I am guessing that this week is gonna be filled with Conflux Creation and Salt Mines as the focused farm for Solstice gear

[floral bridge]

What? We're talking about morality. Dogs are still animals. If I had to choose between saving my dog and a random guy, I would choose the member of my species.

[steel garnet]

does that matter

[static ledge]

it depends for me. If it was my wife, I'd save my wife. If it was some rando, I'd save my dog

[blissful scaffold]

London ? Damm

[azure pumice]

less meat per chicken than per cow

not really an argument for not eating chicken

[steel garnet]

also less meat per chicken than per dog

[vocal marten]

Do you want a subjective or objective answer???

[cobalt echo]

There's a sustainability argument there, with feed ratios

[floral bridge]

Not for me. I reserve the maximum amount of empathy for my species.

[azure pumice]

the only argument against eating dogs is that they're traditionally viewed as pet animals not food animals

[steel garnet]

yes give me an objective answer, let's see

[blissful scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-beyond-journeys-end-stark-frieren-fern-meat-bite-frieren-beyond-journeys-end-stark-frieren-fern-gif-10933423612028089054

[cobalt echo]

different species??

[steel garnet]

how does that matter in this case? chicken and cow also are different species

[azure pumice]

showing a logical fallacy in an argument isn't moving the goalposts

[blissful scaffold]

Someone is trying really hard to rage bait this chat

[cobalt echo]

You asked for how a cow is any different from a dog

[steel garnet]

in a certain context

[floral bridge]

We made them. We're quite possessive of something we made.

[azure pumice]

I saw after I responded tbh

[blissful scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-baiter-ragebaiter-semij1-hello-rage-baiter-gif-7038212996302592299

[vocal marten]

One is canine, one is bovine. They have very different diets and muscle makeup including veins, taste of meat, and density.

[static ledge]

so has anyone else been logging on, going 'nope' and logging off due to the power leveling system now

[cobalt echo]

We eat cows anyways
How are they different from dogs?

[azure pumice]

oh yeah to be clear, I'm not disagreeing with anyone saying eating dogs is wrong, I wouldn't ever consider eating a dog

[steel garnet]

that's indeed objective but that wasn't the context

[azure pumice]

I'm just saying any of these other arguments against eating dogs don't really make sense, the only reason we don't eat dogs is because theyre pet animals

[blissful scaffold]

In a way. I enjoy casual gaming but solo ops all the time? Nah

[azure pumice]

but that reason is a pretty strong one imo

[blissful scaffold]

@static ledge

[silent linden]

Does anyone know where the unwanted yellow bar enemy spawns at in the salted mines solo ops lost sector

[floral bridge]

Basing your argument on components alone doesn't make sense. We're talking about the morality of it, or not?

[azure pumice]

personally I don't mind it, but I understand why people are frusterated with it

[winged patio]

People who keep rabbits would be against eating rabbit

[vocal marten]

I mean it outlines the differences and part of the reasons we eat one and not the other. Cows have a richer flavor and less tough meat

[steel garnet]

the context wasn't the meat or the animal itself but how 'morally' different are they that we can eat cows but not dogs

[azure pumice]

exactly, people personify pet animals and therefore don't want to eat them

[winged patio]

I have been logging on, seeing that the focused solo op sucks, and logging off

[azure pumice]

if you kept cows as pets you probably wouldnt want to eat much beef

[vocal marten]

This is entirely subjective there is no objective answer with morals

[cobalt echo]

idk why you'd expect an objective answer to a morality question

[winged patio]

I don't mind the leveling system during solstice as much

[steel garnet]

the context was purely psychological, not about the meat

[winged patio]

Being able to farm T5s while I make my way to 450 is fun

[steel garnet]

yeah exactly, the only objective answer is that they aren't anyhow different, because the morality is subjective

[blissful scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/megumin-absolute-cinema-anime-めぐみん-この素晴らしい世界に祝福を-gif-2403830803888958377

[azure pumice]

of course there is an objective answer, we just stated it - dogs are considered pet animals in the west and therefore it's viewed as immoral here to eat them

[tired oriole]

better tasting meat

[azure pumice]

it makes the grind so much more bareable

[tired oriole]

cows are pets too

[steel garnet]

that's subjective cuz a cultural thing

[cobalt echo]

There's no argument there, You can't say anything objective about morals in that context

[floral bridge]

My answer is based on a simple fact: "Even pigs are proven to be smarter than dogs. So why should I consider them in different categories? I would eat them both, if only given the choice one time to then never touch the meat again."

[azure pumice]

the fact that the west considers dogs pet animals and cows food animals is an objective difference

just because the entire world doesn't view it that way doesn't make it subjective

[tired oriole]

people raise a cow from birth and slaughter it for food because it makes a lot of food. dogs are tiny and no food

[steel garnet]

I said that morals are subjective, so without morals they are equal to be eaten from the psychological point, that's what is objective about it

[winged patio]

People raise rabbits for food too

[azure pumice]

people raise a chicken/duck from birth and then slaughter it for a lot less food than either a cow or a dog

[floral bridge]

What do you answer to a vegetarian's tshirt showing a pig and a dog with the text: "No difference"?

[azure pumice]

you're raising the animal specifically to eat it, that's different than raising a pet as a companion

[tired oriole]

the big corporations are what you should be concerned abpit because they put ANIMALS in cages and suck the soul out of them

[winged patio]

People don't keep cows as pets

[tired oriole]

lie

[azure pumice]

some people do, and those people dont ususally eat them

[tired oriole]

i had a cow as a pet :)

[cobalt echo]

they aren't equal in a psychological sense though, becayse that also has subjective elements to it

how did we get here though

[steel garnet]

like there are no pros or cons for them to be eaten because everything is subjective, they just can be eaten and it's objectively equal for them to be eaten

[winged patio]

People might get attached to their cow, but most don't get a cow thinking "You're my pet now"

[azure pumice]

morals are subjective, the causes of those morals can be objective

[vocal marten]

That’s not how it’s viewed everywhere

[viral oriole]

dont get mad but i fed a cow a beef sandwich before around the time of mad cows maybe i caused it

[cobalt echo]

dog meats also have greater risks of disease don't they?