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[winged patio]

I am 353 power

[cloud blaze]

how does one go about getting cyrtarachne's facade now? i just got back into the game

[hoary plover]

Oh, I was talking about regular portal ops. No idea about weekly missions. Was waiting to cross 350 before doing those, just crossed today

[cloud blaze]

well i played lightfall campaign but chose the other exotic, can you replay it and choose again?

[winged patio]

Rahool

[cloud blaze]

i have to unlock it first tho it says

[winged patio]

Next page

[cloud blaze]

oh wait

braindead moment, ty

[winged patio]

Alternatively, do Vex Strike Force on Neomuna

[hoary plover]

Just get from Rahool. You get 2 ciphers per week (from Xur and season hub). Since artifice armor is gone, no other use for those ciphers afaik

[winged patio]

It will give you a new exotic every time

[broken salmon]

has anyone gotten a holofoil ribbon tail thats t3+?

[winged patio]

I haven't gotten a holofoil anything that's t3+

[edgy gale]

I dont get why so many are demanding Bungie to make a statement about the power grind 2 weeks into the DLC and already many streamers, people who work from home or having vacation atm. can hit 400.
If you like to grind, u can. If you dont like or dont have time - its fine!

[winged patio]

I've opened at least 50 engrams and no holofoil

[slim fossil]

i love how i leave for one year, come back, and comp is just full of brain dead casuals

[edgy gale]

Because tier2 or tier3 can easily make u do good builds for raid and dungeon. The recent day1 raid was done with lower armor stats

[broken salmon]

you can get holofoils by buying them form ada and opening htem at rahool

but i think they only decode at t1

[winged patio]

I can semi ignore the power grind up to 400

But 400-450.. It's so bad

14 hours for 5 power

[broken salmon]

yeah on 390, but as long as i can get t5 easier im fine

[edgy gale]

Thats the best part - you are 400 and can chose to eithr pursuit or just do weekly stuff. Mix it up. Play with others were you make it GM level but enemies are same level as u

[winged patio]

Wanna take me through a GM w/ Famine ;)

[edgy gale]

just got 8 levels today with just chilling with friends in discord on starcrossed and other missions

and I am 412

[broken salmon]

use my join code

[winged patio]

The only methods to farming power are so braindead

[edgy gale]

trick ur mind to do other stuff while grinding then. Then its much more fun imo

[winged patio]

:o Can I bring someone else?

[broken salmon]

sure the more the merrier

[winged patio]

Hm they're not responding >_>

[edgy gale]

But I dont get people who are casual (which is fine) just want now tier4 and tier5 loot.
I mean... they have damm good source called mythic weekly missions, which is nice since u can get already at lvl 200!

[winged patio]

I mean I can't play at the same level as before and get end game loot

That's the main thing

[ashen pecan]

dawg you need to reach 350 for t4 then do a weekly mission

• its only the kepler loot

[winged patio]

350 on Keplar is T5

The weekly mission thing

[ashen pecan]

weekly missions are a +1

[broken salmon]

buts only during the sieve and weekly mythic

[ashen pecan]

lvl 350 is for another +1 at the table

[broken salmon]

so you get t4 form mythic patrol

[edgy gale]

I am 413 and did only get tier4 today

from weekly mythic kepler

[winged patio]

Wait Seive gives +1 too?

[broken salmon]

they can but not always

[ashen pecan]

Did you grab the bonus from the table?

[fierce gyro]

The sieve is good for SOMETHING!?

[edgy gale]

I feel like a clown. I forgot!!... thx man

[broken salmon]

rip

[civic kettle]

bro 😭

[winged patio]

Someone actually kept track with a timer

[ashen pecan]

this whole update made me hate people like ascendant nomad even more

[broken salmon]

what'd he say?

[light galleon]

I'm debating if I wanna try VOG tonight @_@ I haven't touched any raids since Last wish, or since D1

[ashen pecan]

hes basically the main complainer back in the day for crafting

[edgy gale]

but all this powergrind with tier4 and tier5. U really want those set for playing GM lvl and Ultimate, Trials, comp and high place raiding. Which to me sounds like no casuals do anyway

raiding is capped at... lvl 100? same as dungeon

[ashen pecan]

Casual and hardcore is a mindset.

Not a playstyle

[edgy gale]

true

[coral stag]

they removed grandmaster what's the point of grinding power anymore

[ashen pecan]

they did not

but there is basically n oreason other than shiny weapons and t3/4 litterally just being bad luck protection on rolls with extra perk slots

which is just so cringe

[coral stag]

the current "grandmaster" difficulty we now have is a glorified expert

[edgy gale]

but even if dad with 3 kids and fulltime have barely time to play. That gamer will I assume would rarely if never ever play GM or ultimate with no hud, no regen, strong banes ect.

[ashen pecan]

thats what grandmaster was and alwas will be. bullet sponge + tons of champs

[edgy gale]

so I just see there is something for everyone

but apparently all should get acces right here and now for tier4 and tier5

[coral stag]

meanwhile a few select games that put you at -20 -30 are one per season

[edgy gale]

I just dont get it

[fierce gyro]

no hud truly is the worst modifier, give me rage baned enemies taking literally 1 damage per bullet instead

[north nexus]

not for raids or dungeons

no crafting, the light delta, and the way the loot works has killed any motivation i had to play endgame stuff

[ashen pecan]

you dont get it. even hardcore players are just getting timegated for minor upgrades

[north nexus]

and the rest of Destiny's content is raw unfiltered slop so like

[ashen pecan]

atleast with crafted weapons you had a guaranteed way to get somthing you want for your dedication

but with how long it takes fto get from 200-400 + that being reset at the end of the expac is just insane

you can be a quote "hardcore player" and still have a job so the time it takes is just ridiculous

[tender spindle]

the entire community is pretty much in universal agreement with this, save for a handful of knuckleheads

i would be surprised if they actually do reset us down to 200 without heavily changing the speed the which you power up or something

imo the system wouldnt be bad really and they could still keep their hamster wheel engagement farming by just taking away 100 power levels when the new season starts

[ashen pecan]

the way i see it. tiers should be earned depending on how much of a power defeceit you do a activity at

[tender spindle]

that would be a better system for sure but it would definitely make tier 5 grinding a massive pain in the ass

you'd still have the majority of players moaning about how they cant get tier 5 cause skissue

[ashen pecan]

thats why imo t5 shouldve just been the cosmetic

[tender spindle]

tier 5 is basically a tier 4 stat package with the addition of an artiface slot and more energy slots

i think thats reasonable and worth grinding difficult content for

[ashen pecan]

tier 5 annoys me mostly because the origin traits have been. much. much better than usual

[tender spindle]

even at tier 3 armor (with a set of tier 4 boots) i have pretty busted stats already. on my pris build im at 110 melee, 158 super, and 100 weapon

[waxen canyon]

Haven't played ina while, trying to get my friend a good auto rifle or smg or smth. He's free to play. Any recs for what to grind for something decent?

[tender spindle]

on strand build im 100 melee, 140 super, and 85 weapon

[tender spindle]

new strand smg from zavala is good

multimach is good but its iron banner

[waxen canyon]

So just grind nightfalls and stuff?

[tender spindle]

no i think you can just claim it from zavala rn

[waxen canyon]

I dont' see a strand smg in his loot inventory

[ashen pecan]

rn its the sniper

[tender spindle]

if you cant then find a portal activity that focuses it

oh damn

[ashen pecan]

no dlcs?

[waxen canyon]

Not that I know of

[frigid hatch]

Ahab Char doesnt require any DLC's and it's a good auto

[ashen pecan]

yea then doing portal activities you can get ahab char or qui nilus II

[south pine]

just got back into d2 and finished lightfall. im light level 200, will that be fine to start doing raids or should i get higher

[rain light]

whats good d2 gen chat

who got a mentally ill friend thats gon ruin my life, i am BORED

[rain light]

ur fine

[pliant parrot]

wtf for real why am i not getting any credit for using the volatile weapon mod

oh my bad, i keep forgeting, bungie cant farkin code

[charred yacht]

gunner armor just never drops 🔥

[pliant parrot]

ooo

[charred yacht]

lol

[stone ermine]

I haven’t had a problem with armor dropping

[spring schooner]

Is barrow d still good without the cat

[drowsy monolith]

Anyone know if the Portal version of Whisper will allow the catalyst steps to be done, or do I have to use the Director version?

[foggy geyser]

It does on expert B+

[charred yacht]

I've had the gunner mod on for the whole dlc I swear i've seen bulwark armor the most

[drowsy monolith]

Nice, thank you

[foggy geyser]

Np

[charred yacht]

im probably just unlucky, but my feeling is that the system sucks bigtime

[wary tusk]

where do i find the "match game" modifier i need it for guardian rank but it isnt in the negatives section of any portal activity

[charred yacht]

master difficulty

complaining works 🔥

[ancient plover]

anyone know where the datapad is for creation solo?

[wary tusk]

i tried looking in there lol its just not there for me\

[charred yacht]

bungie headquarters zapping gunner armor into my game 🔥

[pliant parrot]

usually under the big marker on the map

[rotund jewel]

what's the damage meta?

[charred yacht]

outbreak + tcrash 🔥

[tender spindle]

outbreak perfected and a high super stat

[pliant parrot]

remember that time bungo said "PLAY HOW YOU WANT"

then they made everything require the meta loadout?

[stone ermine]

I don’t have the armor mods on my ghost

[tender spindle]

you dont need the meta loadout

[livid girder]

Hey

[pliant parrot]

grass

[tender spindle]

flechette storm one phases some of the bosses in DP

[charred yacht]

i mean everyone always uses the meta loadout even if its not required

[ancient plover]

dont see a marker on the map

[fervent veldt]

youtube !

[charred yacht]

bungie should just make more things good so that the meta is more diverse but idk they just never do

[pliant parrot]

too much loot is dropping, what do i do guys

[tender spindle]

these stats are yum

[ancient plover]

why watch an entire video, for something i can just ask here lol

[charred yacht]

what r u running? consecration?

[tender spindle]

on the pris build yeah

these are my stats on the strand build

[pliant parrot]

getting work done

[livid girder]

Oo

[pliant parrot]

tommy's matchbook

everything is on fire, all the time

[tender spindle]

i love loreley titan

[pliant parrot]

new land beyond catalyst at 93%

then i can go back to using tommy's

[tender spindle]

is NLB unlockable if you didnt buy the deluxe year edition

[pliant parrot]

dont think so

[tender spindle]

when does it become available?

[pliant parrot]

renegades?

[tender spindle]

see i would have bought the year but i didnt want those star wars skins lol

[pliant parrot]

lol

[tender spindle]

didnt even want them in my inventory

[pliant parrot]

i always buy the god pack

got it for 83 same week it dropped

after this i gotta play hunter so i can do the tritonial catalyst

[fervent veldt]

did you get an answer here yet

let me know

[tired oriole]

@tough sable lets cop dat god paxk

[ancient plover]

no, but i ended up finding it. wasted a bunch of time just checking every knook and cranny lol

[fervent veldt]

crazy

[tough sable]

i got sum rn if u need

[civic kettle]

I just had this crazy idea

unstop imp swarm

[charred yacht]

bungie adding a third champ to each faction would be horrifying

[winged patio]

Overload captains with the ice fans

[solemn escarp]

ah man its been so long since ive been on destiny, finally got back into it

[robust vector]

F4 was really good one of better marvel movies that come out in a while

[fervent veldt]

unstop wyverns

[civic kettle]

u know that stasis shotgun captain in Kepler?

[winged patio]

The last one I genuinely liked was no way home

[civic kettle]

make those unstop

[robust vector]

Pedro Pascal is hated for dumb reasons. He was fantastic

[robust vector]

Same

[civic kettle]

Usain bolt wyvern with stasis bane

[fervent veldt]

😍

[civic kettle]

and their projectiles move twice as fast

[robust vector]

My fav marvel movie prob Winter Soldier & Endgame

[tired oriole]

i got "good shi"

[robust vector]

I love the GotG trilogy aswell

[tired oriole]

😭😭

guardians of the galaxy > every marvel movie

[tough sable]

Thas what dude told u 😭😭🤔

[nimble siren]

does ups work you like amazon does?

[tired oriole]

apparently its the strain

[light arrow]

and rage

[robust vector]

Jœŷ 🤤

Jœşťẽř

Jœĩņġ

[frank ferry]

Does anybody happen to know what stat, if any, increases the health of Supers like Ward of Dawn or Well of Radiance after the rework?

[plucky kettle]

Does anyone know how to get Power from 401+? I'm stuck at 400 and don't want to increase Power anyome.

[rain light]

none

[echo parrot]

Love when I'm doing Fabled Message and an item needed for the boss fight doesn't spawn

[azure pumice]

There are some limited/weekly sources, these are the easiest (similar to old pinnacle weeklies), zavala, arms week, gm conquest

The only truly infinitely repeatable method though is getting "prime" drops in portal, which seem to drop about 1/8 of the time for a completion

[pliant parrot]

tfw you do a thing for xp, and get exotic parts for the bow you never used

[azure pumice]

The prime will drop as +1 tier (so t5 if you got A) and +3 light

[fervent veldt]

oh my god k1 logistics when its hive day is so good

consistent 3 min clears

[azure pumice]

The prime drop rate may be affected by guardian rank, not super clear

[fervent veldt]

yeah some people said gr 9 increases prime engram drop rates

[stuck plover]

what hunter build yall use for legendary EOF campaign?

[azure pumice]

I didn't notice a change, but it was a fairly small sample size before

[stuck plover]

what hunter build yall use for legendary EOF campaign?
im using prismatic with mask of bakris and LOW

[azure pumice]

Prism melee with a synthos relativism

[cinder crown]

guys
what would be the funnest/easiest raid to learn?

[azure pumice]

Easiest is definitely vog

[pliant parrot]

Leviathan

[azure pumice]

Most fun is more debatable, but imo dsc is a good balance between fun and easiness

[valid lark]

#d2-fashion message

[pliant parrot]

or Menagerie

[valid lark]

my dune hunter

[tired oriole]

is it hive now

[alpine garnet]

hi lemark hi

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[civic kettle]

eh

caltrops would be better

coz of how it makes enemies just walk up to you

[nimble siren]

vow

real

[civic kettle]

questionable name for a shader

[pliant parrot]

lol ya its the rank 102 shader

[fervent veldt]

yea

[tender halo]

Does anyone know if i have a +3 drops in an empire hunt whoever joins me also gets the +3?

[nimble siren]

hive is free

[fervent veldt]

it really is

3 min clears is very awesome sauce

[nimble siren]

i was getting 3mins with fallen but i was doing expert

[tired oriole]

i do master cuz i like pain ig

[faint flint]

Has anyone gotten the holofoil Phoneutria fera yet? I have opened a ton of these engrams

[tired oriole]

i have one

w frenzy and threat remover

definitely good

[charred yacht]

idk what the pve god roll on the new hc would even be

[nimble siren]

i wasnt high enougn light when fallen was out

[charred yacht]

the hc might just be bad

[tired oriole]

frenzzyyy

[valid thunder]

you can buy the doki doki club stuff wtih bright dust

[fervent veldt]

tbh i dont think the hc is good in pve

[tired oriole]

reload + damage

[nimble siren]

its fun on pvp i was getting two shot by it

[fervent veldt]

fire rate is too slow

[charred yacht]

are we reallying using plain frenzy hcs in 2025 tho

[nocturne bay]

How much does the super font give for the intellect stat?

[stuck plover]

any advice on my build

[tired oriole]

its good and gives it more range w the damage buff

[valid thunder]

ass take it off

[stuck plover]

its for legendary campaign

[tired oriole]

stop being negative

[valid thunder]

its acc just bad tho

[nimble siren]

you dont need a build for that

[tired oriole]

frenzy is slept on

[fervent veldt]

that tarnation roll 🥶

[tired oriole]

im not saying i'll use it after the event but i like my rill

firld prep chain reaction god roll

[valid thunder]

its a tarnation

[pliant parrot]

every time

[alpine garnet]

hi dankniss hi

[tired oriole]

the third iteration catty is kinda good too!! first good exotic scout

[charred yacht]

my polaris lance kings

[tough sable]

just chalk ts

start fron scratch😭

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[alpine pasture]

guys i activated a boon and minor negative challenge modifier and after i completed a solo ops activity it didnt count towards the guardian rank objective, any idea why? this is for rank 4 objective

[tough sable]

😪

[nimble siren]

i mean just lock in?

kinda simple

[maiden jolt]

can you still get outbreak?

[tough sable]

nah

[charred yacht]

in the legends node do zero hour

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[civic kettle]

:)

ur just gonna have to deal with not getting A rewards

[pliant parrot]

hahah

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[pliant parrot]

ST OP GRINDING, JUST PLAY

[nimble siren]

just get t4s?

[nocturne bay]

When are the changing the combined mastery thing for the raid? Is it next week?

[civic kettle]

u have to rely on prime engrams

that or slog through -80

[civic kettle]

im only 350 though but im assuming the score requirements get fcked once u hit 400

i think theyhre like a % chance as a bonus drop from finishing an activity

[pliant parrot]

correct

[nimble siren]

you get 400 to get 500

[pliant parrot]

just play the game

[civic kettle]

gotta hit 450 somehow

[tough sable]

u doing the wrong shi then

[civic kettle]

just worry about light level

[pliant parrot]

dude i'm replacing 67 stat gear

[tough sable]

farm the raid twin

[pliant parrot]

just play the game

[iron sinew]

6...7?

[pliant parrot]

grinding will just make you hate it

[winged patio]

I'm cooked

[cyan anchor]

You can do anything in the game with tier 1 gear lol

[winged patio]

T4 arms week loot requires GR 9 or 10

[nimble siren]

bro just gave up

[brittle falcon]

Is PvP that dead that no one wants to squad up

[nimble siren]

its been dead

[pliant parrot]

mostly just too many cheaters

[tough sable]

This game is si ass

[nimble siren]

real

[brittle falcon]

It’s painful I get poppers on my team then the other team just mercy’s every game I think I’ve won 1 PvP game in about 10 games not saying I’m good I’m azzz but I just want the new title

[nimble siren]

just use controller and youll start winning

[pliant parrot]

nah just hard cheat like all the cool kidss

[alpine garnet]

ts game so back

[nimble siren]

controller is close enough and most people have one

[charred yacht]

the slow on melee modifier is so aids

[alpine garnet]

tlw and tommy mb cook on consoles

[brittle falcon]

What is the matchmaking is it skill or ping?

[nimble siren]

rng

[brittle falcon]

Most likely cos for the past 4 games I’ve have people only getting 3-5 kills

[nimble siren]

thats normal lol

[brittle falcon]

And it’s not even normal PvP it’s the new game mode it’s just full of shitters

[alpine garnet]

wtf 😭

[formal condor]

Hiiiii

[pliant parrot]

who wants to run me through faction unit challenge, difficult threat challenge and surge boon modifier, cause i'm apparently too stupid to find where to turn them on

[brittle falcon]

I’m not that good I’m not saying that I’m like a 1.5 but that shouldn’t be happening

[alpine garnet]

hi mara hi

[nimble siren]

yeah the new mode bought out all the pve players

[brittle falcon]

Also 4% for a loss and 7% for a win is dumb for the new title

[nimble siren]

you can just run the lobby by yourself lol

[brittle falcon]

And there all on my team and all PvP players are on the enemy team

[charred yacht]

fireteam ops is so cringe

[nimble siren]

thats also normal

which title btw?

[twin bloom]

Gr?

[winged patio]

Guardian Rank

[winter oyster]

guilding the sharpshooter title is awful

[brittle falcon]

This is what puts me off PvP games cos u could have 1 good game and ur match making is just not right

[alpine garnet]

hi joe baby hi

[brittle falcon]

I can’t even get it base cos I keep fkn loosing every game

[nimble siren]

ye the matchmaking has always been terrible for pvp

[azure pumice]

At gr9, rewards shop drops very limited t4 but nothing else, gr10 appears to be impossible until next season

[winter oyster]

hi buddy

[brittle falcon]

It’s like that for all games tho that’s what’s put me off

[winter oyster]

to gild it you have to win 10 hardware games, not play u have to win them

[pliant parrot]

but like whats the best way to do these

cause i cant find them

[winter oyster]

are you doing expert dif?

[nimble siren]

idk destiny has always been in a league of its own

[pliant parrot]

i'm tryin to

[alpine garnet]

rick kackis must have guides for these

[vagrant hound]

just getting back to d2, is there any way to go to Neomuna straight up?

[brittle falcon]

Yeah but to unlock it in the first place u have to win more than 10 I think it’s like 25 losses or 15 wins

[winter oyster]

pretty sure those mods are only on expert dif

[pliant parrot]

roger

[brittle falcon]

And it takes more time to load into the game than the game lasts for

[winter oyster]

just annoying to spend 10 minutes in a game and not get any credit cause i lost, atleast the first one i know even on a loss im making like 6% towards it

[alpine garnet]

you have to do introductory mission

[pliant parrot]

thats why you dont play crucible

[nimble siren]

whats the new title even?

[vagrant hound]

I played lightfall and just finished the new campaign

[winter oyster]

sharpshooter

[vagrant hound]

This portal system is confusing

[nimble siren]

ah k thats lame

[winged patio]

This is my progress with just 4 games played yesterday for the daily

[alpine garnet]

deadeye sounds sm better

[nimble siren]

i mean you can prolly just play obj and win half of the time

[nimble siren]

fr

[scarlet kindle]

i need some help figuring out how rare something is

[pliant parrot]

ok well i'm looking at expert, but wth mods do i need to pick

[pliant parrot]

why cant i just play the game

[alpine garnet]

t4 is very rare, t5 extraordinarily rare and joy is extinct

[winged patio]

Is this from focusing at Rahool, or the focused one at Ada's workbench

[scarlet kindle]

nooooo

[pliant parrot]

anyone know time on seive?

[scarlet kindle]

bro i was running trio vog and we accidentally somehow did challenge

[winter oyster]

im gonna hit 1k kills on my ace of spades before i finish this triumph 😦

[desert remnant]

Random drop Exotic armors should default to a particular archetype. Nothing like opening a Synthoceps with 0 Melee stat or Ashen Wake with 0 Grenade 😤

[bleak thorn]

I got Tier 5 and 403 power level drop in solo ops with Grade B+ with 870,000 points to complete full run

[alpine garnet]

😭

[dusky wigeon]

🐴

[alpine garnet]

🐐

[pliant parrot]

you planning on doing it? i need someone to invite me, i'm not in the mood to do the campaign again

[bleak thorn]

It took me 10 times to run solo ops. I got it lol

[rotund jewel]

Is Caydes Fate still bugged?

[stark relic]

eh why not sure, whats your code

[bleak thorn]

@alpine garnet Tier 5 is very super rare drop like 5% chance drop

[pliant parrot]

me 5272

[brittle falcon]

At lest ur team don’t sit in there spawn with scout rifles and pulse rifles in the supremacy mode yes there getting kills but we are getting points cos we’re not picking anything up

[desert remnant]

Got a bunch of T4s from the Conquest mission and all of them were bad 💀 guns with bad rolls and two armors with Bulwark archetypes

[winter oyster]

little do you know

[nimble siren]

i mean thats kinda how alot of people play lol

[blissful scaffold]

@winter oyster joe baby?

[brittle falcon]

I’m on 54% for the base title and I’ve been playing for Almost 5 hours

[nimble siren]

joe mama

[winter oyster]

dat my twin

[winter oyster]

sounds abt right

ive lost 5 hardware games in a row

[nimble siren]

sounds like a blast

[brittle falcon]

They should add a modifier where if ur still or on ur scope for 2 seconds u start burning at 20hp a second

[bleak thorn]

Make sure you reach Guardian Rank level 9 then do Grandmaster Conquest full run so you get Tier 5 drop

[brittle falcon]

It’s not it’s more infuriating

[nimble siren]

fr

[nimble siren]

hopefully you get it done by today

[winter oyster]

make crucible playable, funny joke

[nimble siren]

itll never happen

[brittle falcon]

Not likely Its 3:10am and I’ve got work so won’t be playing for the rest of today

[charred yacht]

killing everything in the fireteam ops and still not getting A rank 🔥

[brittle falcon]

Like there’s people flexing flawless titles and I’m over here thinking if ur showing off ur title u can’t be a the bottom of the leaderboard

[weary karma]

is mint retrograde still dropping from pinnacle ops?

[blissful scaffold]

@weary karma u complete the story?

[weary karma]

on boss

[blissful scaffold]

At boss or do you mean "on god" ?

[weary karma]

does mint retrograde still drop, or not?

[winter oyster]

yes

[coral stag]

yes

[blissful scaffold]

At boss or do you mean "on god" ?

[bleak thorn]

find your own stack group on fireteam team lfg to start it with Grade A

[weary karma]

I usually mean what I say or do I need to translate it to french? 😭

[blissful scaffold]

Say it again in full sentence

[weary karma]

• it again in full sentence*

[regal carbon]

So we still don’t know if we can farm salavtions edge or icebreaker?

[nimble siren]

just dont sleep

[nimble siren]

is that gun called blast?

[coral stag]

blast furnance

[nimble siren]

crazy

[crude aspen]

Seems no one is doing master conquests?

[nimble siren]

just solo it

[crude aspen]

hell no

[nimble siren]

just lock in

[crude aspen]

I cant even use my beloved thundercrash with courias

Literally 1984

[tired oriole]

its 450 now

[raven pond]

Are they ever gonna add encore back

[crude aspen]

no, next question

[fervent veldt]

mustard

[raven pond]

Bruuuuhhhhh

Imma kms

[crude aspen]

Pay some silver before leaving, thx

[winter oyster]

no easy power grind 😦

[raven pond]

Your right mb I gotta pay bungie that exit fee

[nimble siren]

comp is free light lvl ngl

[winter oyster]

comp as in crucible?

[nimble siren]

just go strand and win

[raven pond]

Yeah that has been dropping quick

[nimble siren]

yuh

[raven pond]

This whole expansion has been a mess

[winter oyster]

what power level u at

[nimble siren]

297

[tired oriole]

ur goated

[nimble siren]

frfr

comp boosted me like 30 in a day

[winter oyster]

ill try out the malenia method once my bonus drops are done

[tired oriole]

i did every single boosted yesterday it took 10 hours and i gained 30

[nimble siren]

its a goated method just turn ur brain off and gain light lvl

[nimble siren]

i did whatever missions we did and some comp

[winter oyster]

bold of you to assume my brain is ever on playing d2

[tired oriole]

it took 10 hours cuz i got bored 4 times

[nimble siren]

thats facts

[winter oyster]

wuddup twinnem

[tough sable]

wazapppp brudda

[tired shard]

Guys someone flexed a two hour checkpoint on me, how should I feel

[nimble siren]

call him a slur and move on

[tired shard]

Word

[winter oyster]

suffering to gild my sharpshooter title

[fervent veldt]

wtf two of them

[tough sable]

evil baby grind sesh

[tired shard]

I can’t even get into destiny or any game for that matter bc of my wifi and said I had to go, so two hours later he flexes the checkpoint clear

[winter oyster]

baby of suffering and despair

[tired shard]

Rip baby

Why is it flashing a hamster?

[fading violet]

how do i check my score at the end of a portal activity? i keep getting Rank progress for season pass instead of my score rank

[nimble siren]

yeah you got flexed on ggs

[placid hinge]

aight, how are we supposed to deal with mythic, it's "200" but everything is still skulls at 250

[tired shard]

Get good or sum

[tough sable]

?

[pallid inlet]

Did they say they fixed wishful ignorance? Cuz mines still un-upgradable

[tough sable]

its -50 twin

[placid hinge]

I mean that's not INNACURATE but was hoping for something more concrete

[nimble siren]

lock in

[winter oyster]

on baby

[azure pumice]

Rahool gives t1 always it seems, Ada's workbench gives me t3s, reward shop gives me t4s (I am gr9)

[deft shell]

hey would anyone be down to grind advanced starcrossed with me nobody wants too

[valid fiber]

what requirements to get t4 drops from mythic kepler?

[placid hinge]

feels like im using a wet noodle

[nimble siren]

use a dry noodle

[placid hinge]

but then it'd snap

[nimble siren]

but dps tho

[amber hollow]

Is there an armor set tier list? I'm in need of something that I can use to get the raid set with good rolls

[winter oyster]

bro my 3 of my teammates in hardware had a .3 k/d

never finishing this triumph

[amber hollow]

I think trials looks pretty drcent

[nimble siren]

this is what you want instead

(my trials teammate btw)

[pallid inlet]

Trials gonna be zzzz solos running lupi storms keep or 200s with weapons stat

[winter oyster]

how long have you had that screenshot holy

[nimble siren]

idk like 2 years

[winter oyster]

when does trials come back

[nimble siren]

never

[pallid inlet]

This week

[winter oyster]

needa grind some sherpas

[pallid inlet]

?

[winter oyster]

i need to grind some sherpas

[tired shard]

Aura

[pallid inlet]

That's nice

Hopefully it's the new HC tbh otherwise gonna be boring loot with a tier system

[tired shard]

Anyway how do yall feel about arms week

[pallid inlet]

Not enough arms

[fringe cloud]

Why would he show her number now the other guy also has it

[winter oyster]

awful

[valid fiber]

it's cool however it's a bit of a cash grab

[tired shard]

Give us STL on the trace at least

[winter oyster]

id like it if i didnt have to win 10 more hardware games

[nimble siren]

Yeah don’t make me flex my 22 total raid clears in 8 years of playing destiny 2

[weary karma]

havent even finished the story looking forward to wet noodling my way to 450 NOT

[tired shard]

I got 20 so get ego’d lil bro

[pallid inlet]

No cool shaders, holofoils MASSIVELY over hyped as per.. trace is mid HC is fun but hardly a replacement for proper shotty

[winged patio]

Do get T4 weapons, you need to both be power level 400, AND buy reroll slots with silver

[nimble siren]

I’m cooked it’s over for me

[tired shard]

I love the holofoil personally

[winter oyster]

i had 25 ron clears in a week then stopped raiding

[nimble siren]

I got the shotgun from Ron idk how many clears

Prolly like 7

[winter oyster]

it took me 25

[winged patio]

Ay, first holochip.. 60+ engrams in..

[pallid inlet]

I just see Holofoils as Rng skins that limit shaders shading lol

[tired oriole]

i only know i got 1k first try and vex after 40 looted clears and then vex again after 41 looted clears

[fringe cloud]

Why did they make the tiering system like this, t1-3 requires you to breathe air for 2 consecutive seconds and then t4 and 5 are play 100 hours

(I know why)

[tired shard]

More than that

[valid fiber]

100? more like 300 hours

[fringe cloud]

Hundreds

[weary karma]

/poll

[tired shard]

Play encore for 300 hours to get a single tier 4

[fringe cloud]

Maybe if they staggered the system better people wouldn’t be so Madge

[tired oriole]

encore is gone

[weary karma]

/poll change destiny 2 to wet noodle simulator

[winged patio]

I just don't understand why Bungie is so stingy

[valid fiber]

300 hours of solo lost sector farming so that you can go in to mythic kepler and shoot a boss in a story mission for 20 minutes straight with the seasonal exotic scout rifle for a chance to get t4/t5 loot

honestly amazing game design take notes

[tired oriole]

new game director

[stiff falcon]

peak

[fringe cloud]

Well it’s obvious why they’re stingy, giving out the best items in the game all the time is a one stop shop to nobody playing your game

[tired oriole]

lets go back on everything we implemented immediately

[stiff falcon]

got me hooked ngl

[nimble siren]

yeah nvm im the goat took only 5

[tired oriole]

they shouldnt give it away but they shouldnt give us 3 months to farm for 500 hours

[valid fiber]

probably the most boring the game has ever been not sure who thought putting the power grind in and making it 200 levels per season instead of 10 was a good idea

[winged patio]

BTW T5 has a different holochip

[fringe cloud]

what they should've done is made all the old gear t1 and spread the other tiers out more evenly

[kindred fulcrum]

I got a catalyst drop from an enemy and it wasn't a boss

[tired oriole]

nice

[nimble siren]

[fringe cloud]

then at least you farm and slowly power up over time

[valid fiber]

what they should've done is not go back to archaic game systems that everyone hated 😂

[winter oyster]

idk how long it took me i just dont know why else i wouldve cleared it 25 times

[tired oriole]

i got an ascendant shard from a red bar

in the coil

[nimble siren]

ye 25 is alot

[kindred fulcrum]

@tired oriole that's interesting

[fringe cloud]

i mean the old system sucked too. people just liked it cuz it took 0 effort

[weary karma]

anything that gets mr piss parsons more vintage classic cars collections is a win win

[kindred fulcrum]

It was the two tailed fox caty is it any good?

[tired oriole]

yeah it adds a third rocket

[weary karma]

was absolute garbage before eof cant imagine its any use now either

[winter oyster]

i should try to day 1 the next raid

[valid fiber]

i prefer 0 effort instead of farming 500 solo lost sectors every season and red bar mobs having more hp than raid bosses

[nimble siren]

bruh ur cooked

[valid fiber]

who's ready to do it all again in 40 days

[tired oriole]

meeee

[nimble siren]

ME

[fringe cloud]

i mean obviously you prefer what's easier but it does get boring faster. They should make the new system better tho.

although good luck ever making a new good system cuz then people start talking about soft-sunsetting

[winged patio]

But like.. being stingy only makes people quit

Oh I actually got a good one with my holochip

[tired oriole]

the new system is REALLY cool bungie has the best ideas and the worst copy paste datto

[winged patio]

Well.. as good as this weapon gets

[fringe cloud]

so true

[tired oriole]

time crunch and greedy ceos

[valid fiber]

i think that tier drops need to be decoupled from the guardian rank system as a main point to starting to fix things. guardian ranks were and still are a cringe meme and hard locking loot behind them, instead of locking it behind challenging activities, is aids

[weary karma]

Im not far from quitting myself I mean, dune awakening is very alluring

[winter oyster]

gonna request off work for a full week to prep

[finite urchin]

I hate to admit it but whenver I compare this to the Dungeon Trace its just outclassed by that single dungeon no matter what

[tired oriole]

lets all quit d2 for the next dlc

[fringe cloud]

isn't the entire point of the guardian ranks that you need to finish "hard" activities

at least for the last level or 2

[fervent veldt]

no shoot to loot = bad

[formal condor]

What happened to Joe baby?

[weary karma]

entire leadership gets the boot way waaaaay up the ass or we quit

[winged patio]

Yeah but the dungeon trace is ugly af

[winter oyster]

twin gone

[tired oriole]

@tough sable

[fervent veldt]

lemark hi

[tired oriole]

joe clone

[formal condor]

There’s 2 of yall? 😂💀

[valid fiber]

yeah but most of it is just menial chores, time gating or unfun tasks. guardian rank should be purely cosmetic, not dictate your loot.

loot should be dictated by the content itself; like master raids, flawless trials, etc.

[tired oriole]

obviously 1 has a bandana

[winter oyster]

on baby

[finite urchin]

would use a gun that does free boom boom as a origin trait and applies debuffs for free

[valid fiber]

not "hey if you aren't guardian rank 9 you are literally unable to get loot above t2/t3, lol"

[fringe cloud]

it used to be like that but they changed it cuz the community didn't like it

[tired oriole]

and its do the full power grind

[fringe cloud]

we can't have max level locked behind the raid, etc

[tired oriole]

😭

[finite urchin]

idk what ribbontail does other than being a fragger gun?

[zinc garden]

shot in the dark here, lf5m WOTM 390 xbox one

[tired oriole]

nah twinty jit tripping on. cuz

[nimble siren]

what prepare yourself mentally?

[tough sable]

Wasgood

[winged patio]

Idk either it's going to sit in my vault forever

[tough sable]

Data just my brutha

[valid fiber]

power grind and guardian ranks must be deleted if this game is to survive imo

[finite urchin]

moment

[winter oyster]

yeah gonna go to those hot yoga classes for a full week in prep

[nimble siren]

just be gr9 kinda free to get ngl

[tired oriole]

joe baby lil brudda

[winged patio]

But it looks cool and has a shiny icon

[nimble siren]

ye ur day 1 ready you got this in the bag

[valid fiber]

if power grind wasn't part of the objectives, maybe

[winter oyster]

gonna stream my completion wearing a leotard

[nimble siren]

ur fried

[formal condor]

💀😂😂😂😂

[tough sable]

Gymnast 🤫😈

[heady furnace]

for the outbreak perfected do I have to do all the intrisic upgrades or can I just do the 4th one

[nimble siren]

i mean im almost 300 and i just started last Thursday

[winter oyster]

on baby

[fringe cloud]

just don't grind the power, in a few months they'll probably make it 20x easier as usual

[valid fiber]

doing what content ?

[nimble siren]

whatever gave me light lvl

solo ops mainly

[fringe cloud]

preposterous

[valid fiber]

its sleeper af though that they expect you to either spam whisper 500 times or a lost sector 500 times

like why turn game in to a treadmill

[nimble siren]

ye ill never touch a lost sector

[ripe quail]

BROOO FINALLY GOT IT

[valid thunder]

why ts so bright

[tired oriole]

could almost read it

[valid thunder]

😭

[valid fiber]

no rewind?

[valid thunder]

look at this one

[weary karma]

WHY CANT I USE TENORLINKS Agasdjkvbldkalkadbvlkaskasj

[valid fiber]

nice

[weary karma]

*unapproved link * suck my d1ck

[valid thunder]

67

[barren elbow]

servers down or just me

[valid thunder]

just you

[nimble siren]

just you og

[barren elbow]

noooo

[winter oyster]

just got a 4k with a single grenadle launcher shot

neva done that before

[fervent veldt]

im fish

[valid fiber]

June 2024 123,023.0 current 314,379 peak
Last 30 Days 41,202.4 current 108,362 peak

[tough sable]

baby shi

[valid fiber]

proof that the community is absolutely loving the power grind

[tired oriole]

true

[valid fiber]

look at that ~63% drop in playercount

[winter oyster]

on baby

[tired oriole]

finally real player count numbers

[fringe cloud]

content so bad that 2/3 of the players quit before anyone had even played it

[nimble siren]

bruh last time i played ts was at like 21k 💀

[valid fiber]

yeah, most people saw it coming and didn't bother preordering and probably will wait 6 months until everything is fixed to bother trying

[nimble siren]

dude give me 1 light

[valid fiber]

i envy them in a way :/

[fringe cloud]

wait, is this not a joke

there's no way you actually think that

[valid fiber]

how else do you explain losing 2/3 of the PC population in 1year?

[fringe cloud]

story wrapped up in TFS and people were done with the game

[valid fiber]

don't say new story or something no 1 cared about the witness and his goofy ahh haircut either

[weary karma]

I cant tell if I trying to beat a dumbass puzzle or progress

[fringe cloud]

i mean it was a 10 year project from the beginning

[tired oriole]

the final shape kinda ruined the witness for me

[valid fiber]

nine stuff is way cooler of a story, and is a continuation too, it's not like the game started over

[fringe cloud]

it kind of did

[tired oriole]

it really did

[valid fiber]

i don't buy the story reasoning personally. at least not accounting for literally 2/3rds of population. maybe 10% or something "quit" due to the story wrapup, but no way you lose 60%+ due to this

[tired oriole]

Yeah no

the endgame sucks now and everyone is not playing

[valid fiber]

yea that is more the reason tbqh

[fringe cloud]

you seriously think that changes to game systems would reduce the player count by 2/3

[valid fiber]

yes

[tired oriole]

ues

[fringe cloud]

and it's so bad that those people never even tried it before quitting

[tired oriole]

its almost impossible to get to 450 bro 😭

[nimble siren]

just lock in

[weary karma]

its 100% because of cumbucketo leadership whipping devs into delibering "MaKe Us aS MuCh MoNeY aS PoSsIbLBe" content

[fringe cloud]

nobody knew that before the dlc droped

[valid fiber]

destroying the endgame systems, destroying pvp, a pointless stat rework that broke half the game, a billion bugs, returning power grind for literally no reason, heavily gating top tier loot

[weary karma]

we all "knew" our vaults was gonna be compete garbage.

[fringe cloud]

ur vault is exactly the same as it was before

[nimble siren]

gottem

[valid fiber]

people knew this was gonna be hot garbo before dlc dropped, there was plenty of previews and leaks and beta test stuff that pointed towards a mess of an expansion

[cosmic burrow]

Just found out hunters can use blink with pris, why don’t yall use that, I love blink-lock

[weary karma]

thanks for all the "tewe hee look wehat you can farm!!!" weeks before løaunch. now utterly repulsive bullsh1t

[nimble siren]

gaming

[fringe cloud]

also what's with people acting like the only reason the game sucks is bungie leadership, we've been through this like 500 times

[nimble siren]

blink is terrible

[valid fiber]

probably because the leadership is typically to blame for any failure in the gaming industry

[tired oriole]

the leadership that makes these decisions?

[valid fiber]

look at blizzard and riot lmao

[fringe cloud]

yeah but we've been through this

first it was activisions fault, then they got rid of them

then it was luke smith's fault, they got rid of him

[nova dust]

Game is great you’re all just butt hurt lol

[tired oriole]

they got rid of everybody good!!!

[fringe cloud]

then it's cuz bungie has no money as an indpendent studio, so they sell out to sony

[weary karma]

well cumbucketo doesnt listen to the devs. remember dumbass GAMEDIRECTOR m0ng0loid joe idiotburn? he couldnt even do an overload champ!!! they HAVE NO CLUE. earn us money or else is the mantra

[tired oriole]

and dont even get paid as a studio

[fringe cloud]

like, it's always one person or company ruining everything and then you get rid of them and the game still sucks

[valid fiber]

unironically this lmao. basically no one from the original bungie that made their successful games is still there. either laid off, quit or fired and replaced with pepegas

[hoary plover]

Mythic weekly missions - does Kepler +1 at altar increase its drop tier or guardian rank?

[fringe cloud]

so are the devs bad or not bad

[weary karma]

reøplaced by SA ass grabbing higher ups

[fringe cloud]

cuz apparently all the good devs left and got replaced by idiots but also the devs aren't the problem

[winged patio]

Guardian Rank only effects arms week in direct tiers

[valid fiber]

who can say really, we don't know the internal struggles unless an ex employee giga leaks like blizzard ex staff did

[fringe cloud]

where do they keep the breastmilk at bungie studios

[nimble siren]

in the walls

[tired oriole]

They have a pump

[weary karma]

bungie is endgame dont give a f0cksh1t capitalist bullsh1it

[fringe cloud]

they have it on tap

[pallid inlet]

In a hidden compartment within MasterChief statue

[fringe cloud]

bungie is WHAT

[valid fiber]

if i had to guess; good devs were good initially, bad leadership forced them out and now it's bad leadership forcing lesser talented devs to make a poopoo product

[fringe cloud]

is this what it's like living in europe

[tired oriole]

endgame dont give a f0cksh1t capitalist bullsh1it

[fringe cloud]

can i get a translation to american

[ripe quail]

games a bit bland btw

[tired oriole]

its very bad and capitalism is evil

[nova dust]

Uninstall then

[fringe cloud]

that doesn't sound right

[tired oriole]

It is

[fringe cloud]

ok

[valid fiber]

personally i just don't see how a lot of the things in this dlc launched the way they did. it has a lot of the makings of a great dlc, like the story, but then you look at the game systems reworks and just say wtf

[weary karma]

draws a picture like a 5years old of a hawk riding a unicorn firing dildos from a jim parson shaped mninigun

[ripe quail]

bro this game sucks

[fringe cloud]

true!

[nimble siren]

i mean it is destiny

[fringe cloud]

they should make it better

[tired oriole]

it has sucked like most of the time we celebrate for bare minimum things

[ripe quail]

I left a bad review on steam

[nimble siren]

good job!

[tired oriole]

im playing comp since nobdoy wanna raid

[nimble siren]

raids are lame

[valid fiber]

seems like it has diablo 4 syndrome. golden skeleton wrapped in rotting flesh. good foundation and potential but what is being built upon it is poor

[pallid inlet]

Worst part is all the bungie uppers are from halo days. When bungie departed MS it was all down hill, the only thing they were good at was box games. Live service games was new territory for bungie and they've never hit the mark

[ripe quail]

raids are the only thing keeping this game alive btw

[pallid inlet]

Now diablo seasons have more content than destiny 🫠

[fringe cloud]

ok but they have a game that's been running for 11 years i think they might be pretty decent at live service games

[weary karma]

eeeexactly. I tried d4 after 20k hours in d3. was goldpainted sh1t.

[nimble siren]

still lame

[nimble siren]

[valid fiber]

idk 4 boss raid where all the bosses are just upscaled vex mobs and the mechanics are about running balls of sand through circles. not the greatest

[pallid inlet]

Really arnt compared to others'. It's just there's no 'other destiny'

[fringe cloud]

why are we all hating on d4, you guys should love that game. you play for like 15 hours and you unlock everything and then quit until the next season.

[valid fiber]

yeah no competition besides warframe, which isn't really competition

[fringe cloud]

considering how many games have started up and died in that time, it seems like they're doing pretty good

any anthem rememberers?

[weary karma]

warframe doesnt that have like a MILLION timers the content d2 has?

[fringe cloud]

any division fans?

[nimble siren]

div 2 is ahh

[winged patio]

Does arc buddy count as grenade

[fringe cloud]

they are all cooked

[valid fiber]

kinda true honestly but at the same time destiny has infinite replayability through pvp and has raids and achievements whereas d4 lacks endgame entirely and has almost no replayability

[weary karma]

lololol thers more people playing warframe, than destiny now hahahahahaha

[fringe cloud]

he's so close

why is there no replayability

[nimble siren]

is d4 gamer now?

[weary karma]

thats it. refunding this pissofshit dlc

[valid fiber]

there is a difference between too much grind and too little grind. and fun grind and boring grind

[vivid sequoia]

I have a question: is the Sieve timer 2 hours?

[fringe cloud]

ok now we're getting somewhere

what if they made destiny 2 but with good grind instead of no grind, like everyone complains for all day long

[valid fiber]

atm we've too much grind whilst its also a boring grind (subjective but lost sectors on repeat for 100 hours isn't fun)

[fringe cloud]

that's true

[valid fiber]

like i said it should've been +20 power per season not +450

[nimble siren]

dog who is doing lost sectors

[fringe cloud]

+20? 1 day grind

the perfect amount

[winged patio]

Well +250

The 1-200 grind is soft cap

[valid fiber]

not 1 day, i'd recap pinnacle drops but give more per week and also add bad luck protection to what slot they can be

[fringe cloud]

that's just actually no grind

[valid fiber]

calibrate it to take 2-4 weeks depending on how hard you want to go (4 weeks if you solo guy, 2 weeks if you do every pinnacle possible)

[fringe cloud]

2-4 weeks and then what

the expansion is 6 months long

[nimble siren]

repeat till you win

[valid fiber]

this season ends in 40 days doesnt it

the power grind resets then, no?

[tired oriole]

comp

[valid fiber]

guardian ranks reset in 40 at least, according to my UI

[fervent veldt]

no

its wrong

[valid fiber]

hm ok

[valid fiber]

play the game? raid? pvp? take a break? i think 2-4 weeks for a seasonal game is about on average. get what you want done and keep playing if you like it or stop playing if not

[fringe cloud]

yeah but you can do those things now

[valid fiber]

yeah but they're unrewarding if you don't do your mandatory slave labor first

which is the whole problem

why raid/pvp for t1/t2 drops because i'm not gr9. why do arms week?

[valid fiber]

hence why i said that guardian ranks and power level need to be removed or reworked immediately

[wanton sundial]

Why is my gear only dropping at 300 now

[valid fiber]

you should be able to enter a pinnacle activity and get good loot without having to do some menial labor grind first

if you're mechanically skilled enough to do something you should just be able to go and do it, not have to do a bunch of dumb stuff first so that you reach an arbitrary number where loot magically drops at higher tier

[spring otter]

Where all the goth mommies I need one?

[fringe cloud]

i feel like you may have chosen the wrong genre of game to be playing

[spring otter]

For duality

[weary karma]

waaa I cant refund since its been 48h

[fringe cloud]

also, they used to have the best items hard content and it was removed because the community asked for it

[valid fiber]

mistake

[fringe cloud]

but now we want it back and if they put it back people will complain again

[normal garden]

Yeah

[fringe cloud]

where did all of these people come from who hate rng and loot and leveling up

it's like walking into a casino and wondering why gambling is allowed there

[fervent veldt]

dont tap the glass

[normal garden]

They reworked power and reworked difficulty. This is the rework

[inner sandal]

A

[valid fiber]

i originally played because it was a smooth fps game with good pvp in a setting i enjoy. it was fine back then but it's just gotten worse over time. sad to see something that you enjoy become unenjoyable

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[fringe cloud]

they should put the old taken king system back in

[amber hollow]

They didn't rework me never being able to get a raid group because I didn't beat contest

[tranquil tusk]

all the mythic missions are supposed to drop strangelets right

[fringe cloud]

wait till you hear about the people who liked the rpg elements and have quit since cuz all of them were removed

[amber hollow]

When did that happen?

We have more rpg now than ever

[fringe cloud]

beyond light

[weary karma]

isnt everyone supposed to get noland beyod? I didnt get any?

[valid fiber]

i don't think many people enjoy rng. most mmos are moving towards heavily deterministic power progression models and quicker item level grinds (power here). crafting was a step in the right direction. we've just decided to move backwards on almost all accounts

[fringe cloud]

until this expansion there hadn't been a serious power grind since forsaken

rng rolls were made irrelevant cuz crafting was added

[valid fiber]

yeah, god bless

[fringe cloud]

all content in the game was made siginifcantly easier over time

like 99% of all new items are either useless or just blatant power creep

[valid fiber]

we can agree to disagree but i think that the overall community sentiment and playercount speaks for itself in many ways

i just want the game to be fun and not focused on so much of tedium

[amber hollow]

Chris Nolan (batman) beyond

[fringe cloud]

it's just boring

everyone had the exact same items and was the exact same level

like, what's the point

[amber hollow]

And now?

[nimble siren]

to win duh

[fringe cloud]

now there's nobody

[amber hollow]

It's ok bby I'm here

[fringe cloud]

all the people who like progression systems are already gone so it's just a bunch of people complaining all day

they should call up the d4 devs

they know what's up

[valid fiber]

i didn't see so much complaining last xpac

[amber hollow]

Game dead, I'm gonna go play the first descendant I guess

[valid fiber]

people really seemed to enjoy it, polar opposite of what we see now

[fringe cloud]

cuz it was easy af

[nimble siren]

no way people still play that

[fringe cloud]

people just like things that are easy and give a lot of items

[valid fiber]

and you think that it's in a better state now?

[fringe cloud]

it's like an actual drug addiction, no matter how much you give them they get used to it and you have to add more

[amber hollow]

That was the bad joke I was making

[nimble siren]

ah ok sorry it was funny i think

[valid fiber]

you having fun on mythic kepler shooting a boss for 15mins with 3rd iteration?

[fringe cloud]

do that a few times and you go from forsaken level power to TFS

[amber hollow]

The cringe de la humour, if you will

[fringe cloud]

ah yes, because this system isn't good that's clear proof that easy = good

everyone knows that having to try is cringe

[valid fiber]

not what i'm saying at all

[amber hollow]

Still better than sunsetting

[valid fiber]

the difficulty in the game has always been there, even if the barrier to entry was less.

barrier of entry is now annoying and the difficulty is artificial

[amber hollow]

But yeah there's like 4 people here

[valid fiber]

it's not a great trend upwards

[nimble siren]

i mean if you dont like it dont play

[amber hollow]

I hipfire tommy and throw grenades, yeah real hard

[fringe cloud]

it's not what i'm saying at all except every suggestion i make is to remove any obstacle in the game

less grind, easier content, no barrier to entry

even though they did that for like 5 consecutive expansions and now 1 expansion they made things harder

[amber hollow]

I think Bungie should just do the polar opposite of what we have now

No levels and you have every gun with a god roll given to you on download

[valid fiber]

barrier of entry and grind must be lessened, difficulty always existed if you looked for it. you can do lowmans, speedruns, flawless trials runs, solo GMs, etc if you want to find something difficult or challenge yourself

[fringe cloud]

they should just never listen to any feedback and either let the game die or become based

[valid fiber]

just because it was easier to jump in to baseline activities doesn't mean there was no difficulty present in the game

[amber hollow]

I don't want it to die but also my dreams of ever working at Bungie is also a dead dream

[valid fiber]

imo having a low barrier of entry but an extremely high skill ceiling/difficulty ceiling for players to cut their teeth on was the optimal design

[fringe cloud]

when every difficult challenge is self imposed, it means there's nothing difficult in the game

[civic kettle]

currently we hjave to grind a LOT of ez content

[grim fulcrum]

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[fringe cloud]

yeah so 1/2

[valid fiber]

there's plenty of hard things that were not self imposed

[fringe cloud]

name 1

[amber hollow]

Never finish the story, game just one day goes offline and Bungie shutters

Pete Parsons buys 365 new Bugattis with the money he cut and ran with so he can wake up in a new Bugatti every day of the Gregorian calendar

[fringe cloud]

don't forget one for leap year

[valid fiber]

I already did name some. Most of them are a bit subjective based on skill. For me personally as an example I found master raids to be hard since I’m not very versed in them. Naturally at a point nothing is hard due to cheese or experience and thus challenge must be self imposed

[amber hollow]

That's the special one, the 30 million Bugatti teardrop

[valid fiber]

But there are plenty of things that the average player probably found hard enough without self imposing

[fringe cloud]

yeah but we're not talking about the average player

obviously if you suck everything is difficult

[amber hollow]

Bungie employees are later all taken by Sony to work on, idk, Dora the explorer the mmo

[valid fiber]

Average doesn’t equate to suck and I feel like catering a bit to the average player was a healthy thing. Allowing them to access and complete endgame content is beneficial to the health of the game and keeps them playing

But now they’ve exodus’d the average player

[fringe cloud]

bro come on

[spice lotus]

its arm we-zzzzz

[fringe cloud]

catering a bit? they've made everything easier and more accessible like 500 times over and on top of that they just straight up removed things that people couldn't get

[fading violet]

can someone tell me how to tell if a weapon perk is great or not? im new to the game

[valid fiber]

You can’t agree that these changes helped the game any lol

[fringe cloud]

no, cuz they brought in all these wack ppl who want to completely change the game to cater to them

[amber hollow]

D2 foundry

[fringe cloud]

oh look at me guys i'm so casual also please change every system in the game to cater to my every need

activity too hard? should i get better? no. complain till it gets made easier

[amber hollow]

I mean the community did kill the game a lot

[charred yacht]

hate all the new power stuff but man booting up the game now is freakin awesome

[valid fiber]

Those players always existed and enjoyed the previous iteration of the game. They are complaining because their enjoyment was lessened

[spice lotus]

I also love solo op farming 🙂 Its so much fun, running the same solo op for the 500th time this week

[fading violet]

I got in, and for example clicked on Phoneutria Fera, but I cant see whats a great perk on it

[fringe cloud]

of course they enjoyed it bungie changed the entire game for them

[charred yacht]

get back to the salt mines

no complaining allowed here

[fringe cloud]

we have 500 changes in one direction and everyone is so happy but one change in the opposite direction and it's the end of the world

as if it's even remotely balanced

[charred yacht]

its not really one change in the opposite direction its more like they completely changed the game

[valid fiber]

The changes were bad and most were completely unnecessary. Idk what you expect. People don’t like change, they definitely don’t like bad change

[tired oriole]

hard to comprehend

[amber hollow]

Can't find a desert perpetual group because I don't have the contest emblem most people cheated to get but nope Bungie is the sole reason this 8 year old game is dead

[lone sparrow]

Does anyone know if guardian rank 8 is all you need to get T4 HC from the event? Those with coins purchase

[charred yacht]

but it seems like things will get better in time so i think its probably fine

[tired oriole]

itll be ok join another group

[fringe cloud]

people loved change when it made the game easier

[valid fiber]

Like weapon stat working in pvp lmao who ever in a million years would think that changing TTKs would be a good thing for the competitive integrity of pvp

There’s so many clueless changes that just made the game worse

[tired oriole]

i did not enjoy echoes all coming out at once

[amber hollow]

This was like they shoved all their d3 ideas into d2

[tired oriole]

i do enjoy echoes content for the next year

these arent d3 ideas these are big f u evil ideas

[charred yacht]

no it was like a new game director came in and decided to change everything

[spice lotus]

dw even if you found a team, and had ct emblem. everyone would leave after 3 wipes

[lapis grail]

I love the ascendant plane shader

[charred yacht]

it is what it is

[fringe cloud]

maybe they could have some better ideas if they didn't have 500 restrictions from the community

[fervent veldt]

hi jma

hi lemark

[fringe cloud]

please make good and interesting progression but also you can never touch my old gear i farmed 10 years ago it has to stay relevant and nothing can be difficult and it can't take a lot of time and also i don't like rng

[charred yacht]

hello chicken

[tired oriole]

hi chicken

[fringe cloud]

like, what are you even supposed to make with that

[civic kettle]

wat

[winter oyster]

12 year old me was rockin tf outa the all taken armor

[fringe cloud]

yo is that word of crotachamp

[charred yacht]

? even if people are saying this the new system doesnt abide by these things

[lapis grail]

hunger

[tired oriole]

so they took all of whatever u said and did the opposite

[civic kettle]

wait thats the old glowhoo shader or whatever its called right?

[lapis grail]

Ascendant Plane from heroic KF

[fervent veldt]

salutations mr lmao c

[charred yacht]

glowhoo was a light blue I think

[fringe cloud]

it abides by the no sunsetting and no removing old content guidelines, fails the let you get to max level in 2 weeks guidelines, idk about the difficulty

[wanton halo]

guys my game keeps crashing and idk why. is anyone else having the same issue

[spice lotus]

expansion needed more time, and way more content by miles. this one has already dried out by week 2

[amber hollow]

Real shame because desert perpetual has the raid set that would make my op build op-er

[fringe cloud]

that shader was so ugly

[charred yacht]

i mean most things effectively got sunsetted, and nobody is max level yet

also idk how a system that takes like months to max level is a good thing

[fringe cloud]

idk that's how literally every other game of this type does it

[verbal berry]

does the new hc go up to tier 4 or no?

[valid fiber]

Tbf I like the idea of the new tiered gear and the sunsetting of older stuff. I just despise the implementation of it and the acquisition methods (namely locking the ability for it to drop behind power and guardian ranks instead of it just straight up dropping from hard content)

[fringe cloud]

level up -> get better items -> do harder content -> level up -> repeat

[charred yacht]

it goes up to whatever tier gear drops at for u

u might have to raise ur guardian rank tho

[amber hollow]

B-but arms week

[spice lotus]

Tbh dude, thats the current state of d2 raiding in lfg. Blame salvation for it.

[amber hollow]

Pete-sama o///o

[eternal bear]

anyone else having problems with exotic armor saying to claim from collections even though you already have it

[spice lotus]

It's the pace here though. You'll be "leveling up" for hours and hours before you do harder content and thats IF you get past doing the same solo ops or encore farm for 20 years

[winged patio]

Omg I got the exact roll I wanted for a T5 armor

Gunner + Super Sub Stat + Super tuning

[charred yacht]

nice

[fervent veldt]

adapter set is nice

free aoe dr

[valid fiber]

How you get ?