💬destiny-chat

[misty dawn]

please grok on me twin

[frigid magnet]

oh nah that's freaky jarvis report this man to the youth pastor

[alpine garnet]

grokking Ani

[frigid magnet]

hi uchur do u also grok it

[alpine garnet]

hi sable hi. idk it’s boring asf

[frigid magnet]

What exactly are we talking about

[winged patio]

I kinda wish I had gotten the Salvations Edge raid jacket

[zinc jetty]

no idea, only really works cause im doing a rotation using rain of fire to reload all my weapons

[compact nova]

i found a shader that makes mask of bakris look like it has blood all over

[misty dawn]

ovulating bakris

[alpine garnet]

google “grok ani” rn

[misty dawn]

do not do that

[alpine garnet]

rain of fire is fitting for FF main

[compact nova]

crack robots

[frigid magnet]

Ani, a 22-year-old blond-haired Japanese anime girl that can strip down to underwear on command

Why

[misty dawn]

clanker lover

[frigid magnet]

Why is it 300$

Hold on uchur imma send u something

[past siren]

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[compact nova]

unrelated but does this cloak even exist
i've gotten bbloodline to drop before it did

[vocal marten]

Levi cloak with Bungie straps

[compact nova]

white bowtie

[plucky meteor]

anyone know if completing the final shape campaign on legendary is required for the title? i dont see any triumph saying that

[alpine garnet]

what a distinguished gentleman

[compact nova]

yes it is

[meager flower]

[alpine garnet]

huge

[plucky meteor]

do you know which triumph thats for

[blissful scaffold]

I want to know the triumph too

[static hemlock]

is guardian rank 6 possible rn

[compact nova]

you need to finish a collections stamp, which requires getting an emblem awarded for beating the campaign on legendary

[plucky meteor]

thanks appreciate it

[sand imp]

and what is the featured dungeon/raid this week?

[solemn flame]

everything

[solemn flame]

no

[sand imp]

what

[solemn flame]

yk knotcrazy

[sand imp]

it's usually 1 raid and 1 dungeon

[solemn flame]

after eof it’s everything

[sand imp]

so i can go straight into any raid and farm them?

[solemn flame]

yes

[sand imp]

neat, no more waiting 6 weeks to get red borders

thx

[misty dawn]

where my witness sherpa twin

[shadow tangle]

any news on solstice?

[alpine garnet]

should we tell him the raid bosses got way beefier?

[solemn flame]

nah he can figure that out

[solemn flame]

you need a witness sherpa brah?

[alpine garnet]

[misty dawn]

yuh my izanagi ready to go

[solemn flame]

should we swap to dms

[misty dawn]

nah i’m at work + i need my chaperone @gray widget

[left blaze]

does anyone know if its possible to do desert perpetual solo? (prob not)

[trail rapids]

most likely not

[left blaze]

just had some hope because u can load into it solo

[alpine garnet]

lowmanning died with eof

[solemn flame]

I can load into salvations edge so I can solo it

[edgy prawn]

Did encore grade a last night and it didn’t feel like the best way to farm

[trail rapids]

it is ngl

[edgy prawn]

That’s painful but alright I guess I’ll farm more

[trail rapids]

it’s quick asf n you get leveled fairly quick

[solemn flame]

how long are the runs

[trail rapids]

when you get the route down you can lowkey just speed through it

[edgy prawn]

Is it worth me doing 2 full raids (1 titan, 1 warlock) now or should I just get my hunter’s campaign done then do 3 raids after reset?

[edgy prawn]

Like 13 minutes

[trail rapids]

hunter campaign then you don’t gotta worry ab it anymore n do whatever you like

get the boring unenjoyable stuff out the way first

[edgy prawn]

I used to speedrun it for drops when I was bored. It used to give so many more lol because of the plants

[edgy prawn]

I actually like the campaign. Idk if I’ll do another legendary though

Also do the explore kepler quests carry over or do I have to do each 3x

[sand imp]

i'm aware of that, the entire game became way harder, hp inflation and junk

[edgy prawn]

I know they let you buy some weapons. I got the HC last night

[sand imp]

but i'm not about to stop raiding because bosses are bullet sponges

[solemn flame]

if they fix tuning it’s easy tbh

[spare mountain]

c'yall in 3 months when bungie makes an apology twid on how they messed up and start reverting changes

a hot egyptian goddess skin is calling my name

[edgy prawn]

I just want tier 5 gearrrr

[alpine garnet]

is ts rivals

[edgy prawn]

How have they messed up

[spare mountain]

Goonframe

[silent laurel]

"look guys im not gonna play destiny"

[alpine garnet]

understandable

[solemn flame]

all they have to do is make it back to -5 and you make the speedrun community cu

[spare mountain]

exactly

I want to be acknowledge

[dense hill]

how long til matinence ?

[edgy prawn]

Hot take: EoF was meant to be D3 but Bungie knew people would cry too much because they’d loose their cosmetics (they could have just made them carry over)

[reef coyote]

Ur a chud

[spare mountain]

this

[solemn flame]

or maybe they were making marathon idk

like what

[spare mountain]

no need for name calling mr waffle

you've wounded me

[reef coyote]

Only the best and brightest in this discord

[neon orbit]

brightest w40k thinker

[solemn flame]

so who was crying that they might lose their cosmetics when asking for d3

[normal garden]

wsg chuds

[trail rapids]

u like it enough to do it multiple times?

[spare mountain]

wsg chudda

[edgy prawn]

You’re seriously telling me you don’t think an entirely new farming system, tiered world and loot, and making it so that the old destinations page is greyed out and old loot doesn’t benefit from the new tier system or set bonuses isn’t meant to be a fresh start?

The light and dark saga ended. It’s a new story. This would be d3 in any other situation

[edgy prawn]

Yes

[neon orbit]

how many times has bungie said "now that the light and darkness saga has ended, this doesnt mean no more destiny 2"

[edgy prawn]

I know what they said. I’m saying it should be d3

Are you unable to understand English?

[neon orbit]

that would be stupid though

[edgy prawn]

I can message you in 5 other languages

[edgy prawn]

Literally how

[lean cliff]

did you guys know you can still play crucible from the old destination map.

[edgy prawn]

You can still play everything from the old destinations map

[lean cliff]

insane how they didnt get rid of cause of the new ops tho

[neon orbit]

okay, there's no need to be a dick now, dude

[edgy prawn]

I’m not. I clearly stated that it is a “hot take”. Hot takes are opinions, not facts

I’ll reiterate it

[left blaze]

can anyone tell me the best exotic primaries rn?

[neon orbit]

there can be Big New Updates in Destiny without them having to be a whole new game

[neon orbit]

third iteration is busted rn with anti barrier

[reef coyote]

this doesnt make much sense

[edgy prawn]

It is my opinion that the EoF expansion should be Destiny 3’s base game. The new tiered loot system, soft subletting of old loot and the clear disdain towards the old destinations page makes it seem like that was the plan

[neon orbit]

wait hold on im getting in arguments in destiny 2 lfg

im smarter than this

[left blaze]

but its gonna be nerfed at the reset so i need a replacement😔

[north sail]

unpopular opinion, saltagreppo is a slave

[reef coyote]

For it to be destiny 3 it would need to be a new game 🧠

[spare mountain]

boondoggle

[edgy prawn]

However due to the fear of backlash from the playerbase losing access to their cosmetics, they decided to stick with Destiny 2

[solemn flame]

ur a genius

[edgy prawn]

That’s the entire point.

[spare mountain]

revolutionary

[lean cliff]

it feels like they want to do a d3 but know they cant from d1 to d2

[solemn flame]

i agree w d3 but I don’t agree with this

[edgy prawn]

Room temperature IQ istg

[reef coyote]

I think there are more reasons than cosmetics for why people dont want a d3

[lean cliff]

but the way the did it just ruined pre eof d2

[edgy prawn]

I’m saying Bungie are dumb af and they only see that as a valid issue.

[solemn flame]

after tfs everyone thought a d3 is coming and wanted it

[edgy prawn]

I would have 0 issue waiting a year or 2 for them to make destiny 3

[reef coyote]

I dont think anyone thought that

[stone rune]

Lemme guess no good hunter builds this season

[edgy prawn]

It would be the same as sticking red war into D1 with all the new loot and armour stats

[solemn flame]

pretty sure everyone did

[reef coyote]

They explicitly said a d3 wasn't coming though

I think only you thought that

[solemn flame]

that’s not the point

[edgy prawn]

Are you one of those people that can’t think in hypotheticals

[reef coyote]

This is just a pointless hypothetical

[steep shoal]

eof is basically d3

anyways

[steep shoal]

this is literally not financially viable for them

like it just cant happen

i wish it could

[solemn flame]

yeah I think one of the only differences is a complete loot reset like we have guns that would compete w eof weapons from before but that’s all

[steep shoal]

yea pretty much

they will be phased out in time though

[edgy prawn]

Skill diff

[edgy prawn]

So you are one of those people that can’t think in hypotheticals

[reef coyote]

I dont think pointlessly

[pure loom]

lol

[solemn flame]

there’s a reason why people have stopped talking about it

[smoky compass]

Not going to lie I need a duo who know the game mechanics but has zero skill. Need my twin

[fair knoll]

Anyone know when these conquest activities are coming out?

[solemn flame]

yh maybe 2026 if ur lucky 27 guaranteed

[sweet lark]

Hoil cyrt

Is all I can think of

[full yacht]

☠️

[sweet lark]

What does this mean bro 😭

[smoky compass]

It’s true tho I got no one two play with

[solemn flame]

verity hunter grappke 1-2 punch well tether 1 taps atheon while doing 2x its health

[solemn flame]

@cursive hemlock @full yacht

[smoky compass]

I know how to play but get jump by everything

[solemn flame]

set the homie up

[jade aspen]

do old dungeons drop new armour ?

[solemn flame]

not tierd

[full yacht]

😭

[sweet lark]

U tried jumping them first?

The greatest defense is the greatest defense

I forgot the quote

You get the idea though

[smoky compass]

Nah man in trying to drink my coke

[solemn flame]

we can tell it’s alright

[spare mountain]

you can't get an idea, an idea is not a tangible object

[formal widget]

1st week of new DLC and Destiny has 33,000 current players, number 33 on Steam Charts. What a drop.

[full yacht]

Bro s out here violating everybody 😭

[spare mountain]

[sweet lark]

I’m going to get you in a trash can

[full yacht]

What about 1st week of tfs?

[solemn flame]

so we’re lying I was comforting

[full yacht]

Xd

[sweet lark]

❤️

[spare mountain]

how would I fit in the trash can? my belly is too round and big

[smoky compass]

They setting me up for failure bro

[solemn flame]

it’s not supposed to be a expansion where it’s a immediate buy or even marketed like it

[sweet lark]

Got the discord build

[spare mountain]

I sometimes slap at my tumtum and start drumming

[formal widget]

314,000

[full yacht]

Holy

[smoky compass]

Wild

[sweet lark]

You try a calorie deficit? 😭

[full yacht]

Is it joever for the game

[spare mountain]

? is that some type of food

[solemn flame]

he’s dooming while on destiny two that is cracked and impressive

[sweet lark]

Holy mackerel!!

[full yacht]

Hahhaha

[spare mountain]

it's not, until Pete gets another car, d2 is gonna be set for another year

[sweet lark]

He never said the expansion was bad, js showing stats tbf

[full yacht]

Lmfao

The power grind makes no sense

[sweet lark]

Yea it’s the absence of food

[full yacht]

Lmfao

[solemn flame]

him saying what a drop kinda seemed like it anyway

[spare mountain]

A-absence

what a terrifying word

[sweet lark]

Yea you kinda right

[solemn flame]

encore encore like I couldn’t after reaching 260

[formal widget]

just checking population of a live service game, it's a numeric decline, not dooming... but it will affect things like matchmaking and LFG

[solemn flame]

I have to lfg it give them a script to die at spawn and super the boss and they still throw

[sweet lark]

Genuinely..

[full yacht]

Lfg for raids has been in dire straits for a while anyways lol. Sad to see

[solemn flame]

the salvations edge lfg is looking grim because of the cooked tuning

I haven’t ran a fresh since eof because I haven’t seen any1 on my list even in the raid

[full yacht]

Oh 😭

[alpine garnet]

you ain’t excited to do warden of nothing gm for a billion gazillion time for a higher level gear to do other old content?!

[solemn flame]

yh because dp is like wish i suspect everyone’s jumped on tht train because new loot is new loot and its way easier then the witness it seems on normal

[blissful scaffold]

What kind of smg is this?

[solemn flame]

raid smg

[blissful scaffold]

Why it looked like a pistol

[solemn flame]

oh yh

[blissful scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-robin-slap-cachetada-meme-cachetazo-gif-14588588888076113146

[smoky compass]

What is that

[solemn flame]

I looked for a whole 2s idk brah

[alpine garnet]

raid smg

[solemn flame]

yup!

[blissful scaffold]

Why it looked like a pistol

[coarse ore]

900

[solemn flame]

because maya sunderaeh infused them together like maya and chioma esi so that is why

[misty dawn]

what is our daughters name

[proud kiln]

true

[solemn flame]

izzy king vig

[misty dawn]

gulp

[nocturne rain]

Am I in raids always 10- powerlevel?

[solemn flame]

once you reach 350 it’s -5

[nocturne rain]

k

[spare mountain]

Come play destiny with me twin

[solemn flame]

I thought u quit

[spare mountain]

I relapsed

[solemn flame]

only took 2 hours lol

[wind bronze]

wait, what

[obsidian abyss]

Has the third iteration been nerfed yet

[wind bronze]

you have about 5 hours until it's fixed

[spare mountain]

EoF or Valk heirloom

[daring nebula]

quick question in song of flame do your grenade stats counta as well as super dmg

[spare mountain]

decisions decisions

[blissful scaffold]

SPOILER ALERT. I WILL BLOCK YOU

[spare mountain]

super stat

[hollow cairn]

can smone join me i need to play a gambit match to complete this title but it says i need to be in a fireteam for it

[daring nebula]

even though we are spaming the grenade button?

[spare mountain]

yuh

[blissful scaffold]

@spare mountain does the ember that give scroch faster work with Lord of Wolves ?

[spare mountain]

Si

[blissful scaffold]

Damm, should have used it to dps with LoW before.

[wind bronze]

cause a stockless smg is effectively a machine pistol with a longer barrel

also isn't that smg an adaptive 900rpm

[reef coyote]

I knew it was an smg from day 1

[blissful scaffold]

??? Isnt that make you fly off hand faster?

The smg recoil

[tight rivet]

Is the expert Conquest activity bugged? It's the only thing I'm missing to rank up, but the mission says my rank is too low to do it... How am I supposed to rank up if I can´t do the mission?? haha

[civic kettle]

wait for reset

it's being enabled at 10am

[tight rivet]

oh, thanks!

[blissful scaffold]

@wind bronze unless it try to be like this

[wind bronze]

yes it would have worse accuracy, the main advantage of going stockless is that it weighs less and decreases the overall size so it's easier to maneuver it

[solemn flame]

it’s a fake spoiler it’s not real

[blissful scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/uzi-shooting-uzi-lil-uzi-machine-gun-submachine-gun-gif-27615274

[wind bronze]

also no i'm pretty sure that's a mac-10 or 11 with a suppressor, the raid smg has a normal smg barrel

[blissful scaffold]

With extended

[spring valley]

How do you get Opaque Hourglass (the new heavy bow)?

[thorn tulip]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[blissful scaffold]

Rai

[wind bronze]

epoptes from new raid allegedly

[spring valley]

No shot really?

[blissful scaffold]

Yes shot

[spring valley]

[cosmic girder]

whats the best hawkmoon roll going rn?

[dense kettle]

can someone advise how to get slayers fang now it isnt attached to the exotic quest kells fall?

[blissful scaffold]

U want to kill robot ? (Pve) or kill human (pvp)

[cosmic girder]

pvp

[fleet zodiac]

how do i have no desert perpetual carries

i beat the raid and then helped people who didnt get a completion beat the raid, is that not what a carry is

[sand imp]

carries are essentially first time raid. If you played with someone that never played the raid and finished it, you get +1 carry

i'm pretty sure i have over 100 "carries" in RoN, but i never actually carried more than 20 people or smth

[zinc jetty]

anyone know what the fastest spoils grind rn is?

[sand imp]

just run Kali in last wish over and over

[hollow cairn]

can anyone join me for one gambit match? im going for title

[sand imp]

with the anarchy glitch, it should be a minute clear

[zinc jetty]

anarchy glitch isn't patched?

[prime badge]

probably have already been asked, but when is maintence? (How many hours)

[sand imp]

tbh, i don't know if it is. But i also don't really care. I got all my red borders already

[sand imp]

if it's a big patch, it usually starts at 3:30 GMT 0:00, (make the conversion for your time) and ends at 6:00 GMT 0:00

[prime badge]

ty

[fleet zodiac]

yeah they didnt have a completion, weird

[zinc jetty]

im just using them for buying the new crossbow

20 damn runs of the cp for a single drop

i have too bad rng to rely on it to grind anything

[fleet zodiac]

whatever apparently theres no carry emblem for desert perpetual anyways

[sand imp]

isn't the crossbow exclusively for Desert Prepetual? why the hell are you running LW for

[zinc jetty]

to get spoils to buy it?

[hoary vault]

yo guys does someone know how to get he barrow dyad now that heresy is gone?

[sand imp]

just run the last encounter over and over

you'll get them faster i'd say

[zinc jetty]

it literally is like a 1/12 chance from the last encounter

its a 1/6 from epoptes

[fleet zodiac]

oh yeah whatsver happened to the nine crowned emblem

[sand imp]

i know the gunsmith sells some weapons, check Xur ig

[blissful scaffold]

no sherpa emblem?

[zinc jetty]

you only need to do 4 encounters of another raid to get enough spoils to buy one

so its both faster and more reliable to farm other raids to get loot for desert

[hoary vault]

none of em sells it since its a exotic mission weapon but i dont think its in the rotation

[zinc jetty]

the only reason it wasn't for other raids was cause red borders don't drop from repeats on the chest, but since there's no more redborders

[sand imp]

oh right

welp

[zinc jetty]

bungie fr made the best way to farm the new raid to farm old raids

[sand imp]

guess ya just gotta wait

[fleet zodiac]

okay it looks like nine crown kinda just got deleted from the game, it has no collections on light.gg or charlemagne

thats sad bc i even did the dungeons to get the emblem

[sand imp]

lovely, we love sunsetting

[fleet zodiac]

theres nothing in bungie rewards

[sand imp]

that emblem literally just looks like a yugioh wallpaper

[fleet zodiac]

it was this, i signed up for the event but the event had a ton of problems and it looks like they scrapped the emblem completely

[grave vigil]

i am looking for my destiny friend

[fresh verge]

LETS GO T LORD

[rugged elk]

Anyone know how long till servers go down?

[blissful scaffold]

u have 2 hours and 30 mins. Put a nuclear countdown on ur phone

[rugged elk]

lol thanks!

[flat trellis]

Episode: heresy in a nutshell

[blissful scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/laughs-in-british-britain-british-laughs-lol-gif-20412690

[chilly steppe]

Bri’ish

[signal matrix]

i thought first clear of dual destiny

gave 2 class items

[naive swift]

so how do I get a Solemn Rememberance/Stasis Not Forgotten at Tier 5

?

Is this linked to power level, some kind of triumph?

[tacit osprey]

do the starfire protocol changes also affect spirit of star fire?

[flat trellis]

God I wish bungie would make some with as much aura and power as oryx again

😩

[unborn ledge]

he's literally malding

[flat trellis]

Shhh🤫

[vital lion]

guys hm is the powerful cap this time ?

[sharp geyser]

Hi guys was wondering if edge of fate is good campaign gameplay wise, I’m still unsure wether or not to buy it

[fossil ingot]

do we know if scout is getting nerfed today in the new patch

[naive swift]

buy the standard edition, the deluxe only gives u mats, 2 season passes and NLB that will release for everyone in the future

that if you are even willing to buy it

[flat trellis]

90% sure it is getting patched

[fossil ingot]

ok gonna try to blast through the campaign again on another char with it now lol

[unborn ledge]

as cool as oryx is he was straight up wrong in that conversation lol

[tender spindle]

Outbreak is just as broken if not more so due to its super gen

So we have a backup

[flat trellis]

Hush 🤫

[willow narwhal]

does sanguines buff activate even if it isn't your well or rift?

[full yacht]

Yeah unless that got changed after eof dropped

[willow narwhal]

sick perfect

first time using sanguines since it released 😭

(warlock main btw, i swear i'm not a fraud)

[full yacht]

I believe you, im a warlock main but i havent used half the exotics lol

[knotty dagger]

is any of the new raid gear good

[covert pawn]

hi guys!! do you need to do campaign on alt to access desert perpetual

[stark relic]

i think you just need to do the opening

you def dont need to do the whole thing

[full yacht]

Bro typed out an essay

[azure pumice]

It wasn't even lol, it was a fairly short explanation of the new light system for that guy who asked smh

[blissful scaffold]

@wind bronze my hunter is nearly Adeptus Mechanicus

[wide ice]

Rip mythic lol third iteration gets bugfixed today

[wide ice]

Not a nerf a bugfix

Yes its today

[azure pumice]

New system, no powerful cap

• 200 is the new normal cap, once you get there you're there forever
• 450 is the seasonal cap, you'll get reset back down to 200 every season (I think they said the 6 month seasons not the 3 month ones but not sure)

[ivory stratus]

the witness had more aura than oryx

[azure pumice]

Currently no one has figured out how to go over 400, so there's probably a different system to get the last 50 to 450

[wide ice]

Good I still need to get 400

[ivory stratus]

Is it still encore for power lvl

[wide ice]

Yes

[civic kettle]

it is

[ivory stratus]

Fml

[wide ice]

Runs are gonna be slower now since scout bugfix

[civic kettle]

just use microcosm on first boss

and actual DPS loadouts on the hydra

[wide ice]

Need eager

Prob outbreak for super gen

[civic kettle]

ye you run eager up to first boss and then swap back to it when ur done

[solemn flame]

grapple melee for every single boss trust

[wide ice]

Locked loadouts

[civic kettle]

I forgot

[wide ice]

Expert and master you have to use locked loadouts

[ivory stratus]

Grapple tormentor 💔

[wide ice]

Master sometimes no starting ammo

[maiden creek]

commit self delete bot

[solemn flame]

do u tho

[maiden creek]

like the actual server bot not anyone 💔

[civic kettle]

surely this isn't how the power grind was intended to be

[wide ice]

Well yes its a huge point increase

Its like a bar and a half

[solemn flame]

what’s wrong with b

[wide ice]

Gotta go for that max point

[azure pumice]

Solo ops is technically better, but much more repetitive

[echo parrot]

At this point, I think Titans can get bubble returned

[wide ice]

Nope

[wind bronze]

we aren't allowed to be bubble slaves anymore unfortunately

[rugged flume]

Wait, Mementos are gone

[vital lion]

how much i need to reach to step that i'll wait for penical every week ?
the max i can get from playing activites not from penical

[azure pumice]

That system seems to be fully gone now

[echo parrot]

I'm just thinking "at this point", cause warlocks have to choose between Prismatic and Solar cause of Well, but Titan has no reason to not just run Arsenal

[azure pumice]

You can grind at any pace now

No weeklies that give you a faster grind

[civic kettle]

tcrash

[solemn flame]

penical sounds so wrong

[civic kettle]

bruh

[echo parrot]

Yeah, duh, but I'm meaning "more support supers"

[wide ice]

Its still the same thing on titan but with strand too

[unborn ledge]

they should really give us new starnd and stasis supers and aspects

[echo parrot]

I like when it isn't just on Warlock to be support

[solemn flame]

give us a red subclass

[copper coral]

hey guys what would be the 3 best hunterr exotics atm pls

[untold palm]

Where is the seasonal content?

[wide ice]

class item nighthawk

[civic kettle]

you can literally just run lightning surge

[copper coral]

damn

thats it?

[tender spindle]

thats too much effort for people who design and program games for triple digit salaries

[echo parrot]

Begging for an actually good burst DPS option for Warlock

[civic kettle]

stompees class item celestial

[tender spindle]

solar warlock needs a burst damage super

[civic kettle]

SES nova

[copper coral]

no like i have all the old good stuff shouldi worry abt getting the exotics after lightfall for hunter?

[civic kettle]

they also have rain of fire if they want to play solar

[civic kettle]

ohh

[echo parrot]

We only have 2 burst DPS supers and both are "decent at best without relying on exotics"

[untold palm]

No seriously where is the seasonal content?

[tender spindle]

gifted conviction is the best prismatic hunter exotic, excluding the class item

you get it from TFS legendary campaign

[azure pumice]

Relativism is incredibly important, people don't really use the other new ones

[civic kettle]

all of hunters supers are bad without exotics what logic is this

[river compass]

Is there by chance a server that’s about D1? Or is everything D2 now ;-;

[tender spindle]

tether is pretty good on its own but we have tractor cannon so

[solemn flame]

reading gen chat makes u smarter yk tht

[echo parrot]

Nova Bomb without SES does literally chip damage against serious bosses

[tender spindle]

pretty sure we are getting legit seasonal content with the ash and iron update in september

[civic kettle]

literally every single hunter super does less damage than nova

[tender spindle]

remember that now seasons are free so they have no incentive to ship the seasonal stuff along with the paid expansion anymore

the bright side is that content rolls out more often the downside is that you get to run encore 3,654 more times

[tender spindle]

L hunters

hunter genuinely feels like the most useless class on any given raid group

[solemn flame]

difference is gg gives us a second more time to dps

[tender spindle]

the only exception was SE before still hunt nerfs

[untold palm]

So we have to deal with just the DLC content for 2 months??

[solemn flame]

even then se is a hunter raid

[solemn flame]

it’s only 2 months

[untold palm]

ONLY

[solemn flame]

I mean that’s not tht bad

[mint berry]

I'm contemplating why I have 700 days on apex compared to only 400 on destiny

[tender spindle]

if the damage checks are going to be this way going forward in raids and they dont remove that huge power delta from raids as a whole (yes, all normal raids are harder now), titan will be the only class i play going forward

[sand imp]

and then you'll do the exact same thing for Frontiers

[echo parrot]

Get the Kepler title, idk

[solemn flame]

hunters gap titan with the right builds

[blissful scaffold]

i got the Nine logo as crosshair

[sand imp]

the next dungeon day 1 you'll be 200 power below, and your primary weapons heal enemies

[tender spindle]

grapple melee is literally the only thing that can compete

[untold palm]

Imagine cutting up the old content plan in half then releasing both halves separately and calling it more frequent content

[solemn flame]

yeah that’s the point we can 1 tap atheon

[tender spindle]

at this point i wouldnt be surprised

[long tiger]

whats a good way to find exotic engrams now?

[sand imp]

Destiny really is the best game i can't recommend to anyone

[tender spindle]

if hunters gap titan tho why wasnt worlds first perpetual 6 grapple hunters?

[sand imp]

load master grasp of avarice, and farm the entrance for 6 hours

[nimble sundial]

g

[solemn flame]

not all bosses were grapple compatible and you would prob get nuked

[tender spindle]

so true. my buddy is watching how the expansion goes before he returns to the game, and i keep feeling bad when i tell him the positives (like some of his favorite builds becooming meta again like starfire) because there is so much BS too

[tender spindle]

thank you for admitting titans are better

(i mained hunter for the first 10 years of this game, hunters suck)

[solemn flame]

in that scenario yes titans are better but for dr stacking and other things hunters are better

[tender spindle]

outside of the first weekend of SE, i have straight up avoided having hunters on my team this past year.

because i know they are going to do the least damage, least ad clear, etc

and while a super good hunter player can pump out insane damage phases and can get good survivability with things like gifted or whatnot, the average hunter player is not doing that. they barely do more damage than the divbitch

[solemn flame]

so we’re saying titan and warlocks has a lower skill ceiling to perform which is why your a titan because it’s a skill issue

[tender spindle]

titans certainly have the lowest skill ceiling in the game yeah. bungie making encounters that hunters are just not optimal for isnt a skill issue tho, its bungie being dogwater at designing their own game

[worn lark]

is solo conflux mission bugged? or am I stupid>

[scenic geode]

its been a loong time since ive done a raid twice in one week. do i still get loot from the main encounter chests?

[tender spindle]

think about how other mmos are. each class has a role to play thats actually integral to clearing a raid. there are real class roles like healer and tank and whatnot. we just got dedicated healbuilds after 10 years of this game

[tender spindle]

yes even on same character

[scenic geode]

okay good thanks. i know you cant get loot from secret chests

[untold palm]

Was a consistent way to get enhancement cores

Whats*

[tender spindle]

like think about it, we could say the same for titan on SE day 1. the encounters just werent optimized for a titan especially when it came to damage on witness. is that a skill issue for titans or is bungie just r-worded? i think the ladder

this map is beaufitul 😭

wait i tried to reply not repost

[echo parrot]

Lol

[prime badge]

do we know if encore and kells fall are out of rotation after reset?

[echo parrot]

I disagree

[tender spindle]

its beautiful to see everything players paid for in one map the way it should be

[wanton halo]

anyone figured out challenging victory yet?

[scenic geode]

looks way too cluttered.

There could be a way to make this look better

[tender spindle]

its incredibly insulting to have paid 60 dollars for this game at launch only for the entirety of the experience i paid for to be erased from the game, especially when that campaign was better than almost every campaign available to us now

[edgy cipher]

guys weekly rank will reset weekly and we can't claim reward after reset ?

[echo parrot]

Nostalgia blindness

[tender spindle]

shadowkeep, beyond light, and lightfall are some of the most boring, tedious, and tearjerkingly repetitive story experiences i have ever had. I would say witchqueen as well but people would kill me for it

[fleet zodiac]

apparently the game isnt bugged damage wise (supposedly) which actually makes it even sadder

[tender spindle]

running into a long mazelike cavern for 10 minutes to get to an objective and then running back to a vendor who isnt even cool and doesnt give you anything cool over and over and over and over sums up every campaign besides TFS, EoF, and Red War

[fleet zodiac]

so either bungie is just completely incompetent or we have another perk weighting moment coming

[tender spindle]

cant speak on forsaken tho i wasnt there

[rugged flume]

Both prolly

[edgy cipher]

guys weekly rank will reset weekly and we can't claim reward after reset ?

[rugged flume]

They definitely threw the wrong power difference on there

[fleet zodiac]

im still holding out hope that its bugged because otherwise that might be it for me

[civic kettle]

bruh I took hunter into the recent contest raid and I literally took off celestial to run marksman goldy for the sole purpose of allowing my teammates to tcrash more often

😭 🙏

[fleet zodiac]

i know the QA said "we tested it and it was showing the correct damage" but i legitimately just don't believe them

[tender spindle]

is this the best way to orb gen tho? or can warlocks do it better? legitimate question i dont know

[civic kettle]

ye

[untold palm]

?

[tender spindle]

if hunters can gen more orbs then they are useful for something at least

[brisk sage]

Same, especially with how everything currently is in old dungeons and raids

[civic kettle]

coz when u don't have celestial equipped ur super regen way faster

[fleet zodiac]

when you put on celestial your dps goes down in firing range during super chain rotations, its genuinely insane

why do titans just get to be the best class for 2 years in a row

[civic kettle]

cope I guess

[echo parrot]

Sounds like you just hate the game

[civic kettle]

not gonna change the fact I main hunter

[solemn flame]

power preservation or celest swap off and get gg then swap back to celest

[tender spindle]

i love the game. the campaigns are just typically the lamest part of it

[fleet zodiac]

its ok you can always do synthos grapple

[civic kettle]

no it's literally just staying off of celest

[untold palm]

What’s a consistent way to earn enhancement cores

[civic kettle]

tcrash > celestial

[fleet zodiac]

oh yeah remember when bungie said "we're making raid races 48 hours so people dont stay up multiple days doing them"

[tender spindle]

its crazy that people will defend campaigns that are objectively low effort when compared to even D1 campaigns

[civic kettle]

me running celestial = less tcrashes

[fleet zodiac]

lol

[civic kettle]

me not running celestial = more tcrashes = more team dps

[solemn flame]

so each shot from 3 shots is 2 orbs?

[civic kettle]

ye

[tender spindle]

and you call me nostalgia blinded, like bruh you are bungie meatriding if you think shadowkeep or beyond light especially are even worth 5 dollars

[solemn flame]

what abt power preservation 2x celest

[civic kettle]

and they aren't the nerfed SES orbs either

[eager belfry]

I just got called slow by a well skating warlock cos he died 5 times in fireteam ops when he was far ahead worst of all his name was mara sovs fart jar adept

[civic kettle]

subobtimal

[fleet zodiac]

apparently the qa team also used overture to beat the raid 💀

[civic kettle]

if we had overture every boss woulda gotten fried LOL

[tender spindle]

yes, they had to delete the tweet to save face

[solemn flame]

I’ll see but can always create a load out swap to do tht in a real run

[mint flower]

Heyo! Is the warlock Polaris lance meta back?

[civic kettle]

it literally results in less team dps

[fleet zodiac]

they said they used "overture and thunderlords/low swapping" so a bugged weapon and a strat they allegedly said they were trying to remove

[civic kettle]

because again u have fewer tcrashes

[solemn flame]

no like power preservation gives more orbs

[fleet zodiac]

zzzzzzz

[echo parrot]

"guys, you're all just sheep for liking modern expansions, it was kino back when the entire story was 'um, darkness is bad?'."

[untold palm]

I think it’s ridiculous they took out the reputation and reward system for all the vendors because 1 why claim you want to make things more rewarding for players then take away rewards and 2 some of those vendors just got that system

[fleet zodiac]

its less dps

[untold palm]

I’ve never seen a game backtrack so much

[fleet zodiac]

its better to just chain orbs for tcrash celestial is just not good now

[tender spindle]

i literally said TFS and EoF are better campaigns because they dont fall into the same pattern as the others. you cant even read

[solemn flame]

I thought power preservation was based off hits not final blows nvm

[edgy cipher]

pls someone ans weekly rank will reset weekly ? and we can't claim reward after reset ?

[full yacht]

Was contest -40?

[tender spindle]

whats the point of the cryptarch now for real

[solemn flame]

yh

[civic kettle]

yes

[echo parrot]

Yeah, but you also said Witch Queen sucked compared to the older ones

[civic kettle]

because that's what GMs are now too

[full yacht]

Was that a mistake on bungie s part or intended?

[civic kettle]

intended

[tender spindle]

you could get a group of lobotomized monkeys to design these systems better

[civic kettle]

-40 now isn't the same as -40 during TFS

[tender spindle]

because once again, it was structured as going back and forth between the same vendor and the same cave over and over and over again.

[civic kettle]

coz numbers changing and etc

[solemn flame]

so it’s -25?

[full yacht]

Ohh

[civic kettle]

ye

it's just skulls show up whenever the enemies are -40

regardless of scaling

[fleet zodiac]

allegedly

[solemn flame]

idek anymore

[civic kettle]

people are so dumb they complained about it to the point Bungie had to mention it in a tweet

[bright iron]

Anyone else not get the new exotic armor after completing the Triumps for legendary?

[civic kettle]

😭

[full yacht]

Bungie tweeted this or

[tender spindle]

people have done the math. the power diff is greater now even accounting for systems changes

[fleet zodiac]

yeah its still like 2/3

so +50% enemy hp

[tender spindle]

which for normal mode, im not exactly complaining, but for contest, i think it makes for a sour excperience

[full yacht]

Salt said this was his fav contest raid so far lol

[civic kettle]

in a twid

[fleet zodiac]

im kinda complaining bc you barely 2 phase with optimized loadouts on final boss, and thats before adding feats that we need to add to get good gear

[tender spindle]

literally just have everyone throw on outbreak for final. 4 t crashes a phase bby

[fleet zodiac]

he has to just be leaning into the ragebait for engagements at this point, right?

[untold palm]

I’m tired of people acting like taking more than 2 phases is the end of the world. Yes it’s not the most efficient but the boss doesn’t enrage for 5-6 damage phases calm tf down you have time

[civic kettle]

that's coz it was designed that way

[tender spindle]

you dont need super minmaxed loadouts if your team knows how to generate orbs

super chaining is the key to this raid

[fleet zodiac]

yeah well thats boring and im not farming the raid then

[civic kettle]

devs mentioned something about the encounters being balanced around having 5 swaps

[fleet zodiac]

i dont want to sweat on normal raids for rng loot that isnt craftable anymore

[rugged flume]

Why would they ever balance an encounter around swaps

[civic kettle]

and ur damage being tlord -> LoW dump

[solemn flame]

you can skip to final so idrc

[civic kettle]

coz that's how a lot of people play the game

[rugged flume]

Like i thought contest was for the top 1% of raiders, not the top 0.01%

[full yacht]

Ah ty

[tender spindle]

because the bungie devs are room temp IQ and forgot the majority of their playerbase is on console

[rugged flume]

Dude at most i see people swap to surges

[tender spindle]

exactly!

[civic kettle]

the raid was balanced around contest

[solemn flame]

on console it’s easy to swap too like what

[fleet zodiac]

even with tlords low swap it wasnt an automatic clear on contest, you still needed like 4 titans

[rugged flume]

I heard they had a WF raider on their QA team and balanced around tjem

[tender spindle]

stop rage baiting lmao

[full yacht]

You do realise controller s way easier and faster to do loadout swaps right?

[solemn flame]

I’m not

[civic kettle]

having a separate set of loadouts for final stand on giga harpy makes it free

[rugged flume]

Load times

[fleet zodiac]

is that why no console teams cleared day 1

[tender spindle]

a console player is simply not swapping as fast as someone like me who runs this game on a practically clean m.2 ssd

[solemn flame]

pre load is a thing

[civic kettle]

use Lord of wolves to push final and just rocket dump + super

[full yacht]

A console friend of mine cleared day 1

[solemn flame]

you think consoles are stuck on last gen or smth

[fleet zodiac]

on contest? no?

[civic kettle]

yes it does

[fleet zodiac]

if it was giga free it wouldnt have had like 270 clears

[civic kettle]

I literally got my clear that way

[fleet zodiac]

if you say so

[tender spindle]

your new gen console is not as fast as my pc. thats not a flex or anything, just the reality of the hardware difference

[fleet zodiac]

personally if im required to swap multiple times for day 1 i just dont care anymore

[solemn flame]

yes but it’s not much of a load difference for consoles

[civic kettle]

it's either they make raids like this

or they enable not swap in all future raids

make your choice I guess :)

[fleet zodiac]

yeah that would be preferable

[civic kettle]

actually no

[tender spindle]

when i watch people on console their menu comes up way slower than mine

[full yacht]

☠️

[civic kettle]

they enable locked loadouts in all future raids

[fleet zodiac]

i mean they made the raid harder than SE day 1 and look how much everyone is loving the difficulty online

[civic kettle]

instead of not swap

[solemn flame]

at max 2s slower

[fleet zodiac]

thats why destiny 2 is really popular now right

[civic kettle]

I'm gonna be honest I really did have a lot of fun doing it

[tender spindle]

2 seconds was literally more than the difference on contest dude. it was damn miliseconds

[fleet zodiac]

good

i dont want to play inventory management sim in my contest raid i want to play the game

[full yacht]

Ur prolly right but controller s a better input if ur loadout swapping compared to kbm although it prolly doesnt make up for the load times tho

[civic kettle]

cool so you're encouraging a meta of 4 titan and 2 warlocks

[full yacht]

Did you clear on contest?

[fleet zodiac]

no im encouraging the devs to stop making day 1s harder every time because it just makes people raid less and less

[civic kettle]

it's coz of power creep

[solemn flame]

actually I’m gonna see how fast it is on pc

[full yacht]

🔥

[fleet zodiac]

this is literally how every mmo dies, the highest tier players complain, devs keep making game harder until theyre happy, everyone quits, game dies

[woven aspen]

Is it harder than salvation edge?

[full yacht]

Day 1 s arent meant for the average team to clear

[fleet zodiac]

balancing around the top 0.001% of streamers is the fastest way to reach 5k concurrent players

[stark relic]

who set all the fireteam chats to 7 capacity

[tender spindle]

combat power creep with genuinely perplexing mechanics not damage checks that require a billion swaps. bungie has said they dont like swaps to begin with. just make difficult mechanics and filter out lesser teams that way

[rugged flume]

Agreed but this was way harder than most day 1s

[civic kettle]

idk really

I didn't clear SE coz I wasn't good enough at the game

[fleet zodiac]

anything past vow difficulty is mental illness im ngl

[rugged flume]

I only have 1 day 1 raid and 2 dungeons so im not a pro, but ive made it far in most contest modes. Im js, i think Crota's was perfect

[random otter]

Wait I just did the leg campaign on hunter. Do I hav to do it on titan to get its exotic armor?

[fleet zodiac]

if you want a challenge go play the raid 70 under, stop ruining it for everyone else

[full yacht]

Without a doubt but made the race a lot more fun as a viewer personally

[rugged flume]

If i didnt have work i prolly couldve cleared 😔

[tall moat]

did the maintenance happen already ?

[civic kettle]

unironically that's what I do

[rugged flume]

As a viewer, sure, i guess. I want to actually play it though

[civic kettle]

also this was a final wipe my team had with 2 people dead before it even started using our rocket strat

[full yacht]

I mean you got no choice lol

[civic kettle]

so yes I will say rockets does in fact make it free

[fleet zodiac]

yeah and i think adding modifiers is a good thing so people like salt can do the raid on super super hardmode. making the biggest raid event of the expansion inaccessible to everyone but salt tier just kills any desire to even try

[zinc garden]

So I heard the new raid was ass.

[rugged flume]

Wdym

[civic kettle]

honestly it was prob the devs wanting to see how they should scale stuff with the new system eof uses

[rugged flume]

I havent tried it, but my brother said it's great--just a bit overtuned.

[solemn flame]

.5s slower load times

[rare spear]

"salt tier" 😭

[fleet zodiac]

like if day 1s are going to be this hard which is ngl like 60% of the reason i play destiny, ill just go play something else

[full yacht]

Why do ppl hate salt so much

[zinc garden]

Yeah I heard glitched LoW carried the day in contest. I love menu swapping during dps

[civic kettle]

yeah but they're meant to kinda be that way

[dreamy zephyr]

If day 1s aren’t meant for everyone to partake then they should just turn it into a real competition with teams setup like twitch rivals or something.

[civic kettle]

ur meant to struggle with them

[rugged flume]

He's a One Piece fan

[rare spear]

because he's a better destiny player than them

[civic kettle]

like even top teams had a hard time

[fleet zodiac]

he is literally the meme of the streamer that cries to the devs until they balance they game exactly how he likes it

[zinc garden]

Crybaby dude

[rare spear]

when was the last time this happened?

[fleet zodiac]

if theyre going to make day 1s like this just make it an in house event like esports

[zinc garden]

He’s the billionaire who pulls up the ladder behind himself because he got tired of feeling like such a winner

[full yacht]

This actually sounds good

[rare spear]

or just get better

[fleet zodiac]

there was a period of time after last wish where day 1s were "very very challenging but if you locked in and had a good team you could do it" and it somehow turned into "if you arent a streamer playing 16 hours a day don't bother"

[zinc garden]

He whined so loudly that Bungie placated him at the cost of thousands of players who didn’t cry as loudly about things

[civic kettle]

you'd have to give me examples of this

[fleet zodiac]

div nerf

[civic kettle]

huh?

wasn't that justified?

[rare spear]

the div nerf was warranted???

[fleet zodiac]

he complained about div, bungie "coincidentially" nerfed div like a month later

[civic kettle]

coz tractor and tether would have zero reason to exist no?

[fleet zodiac]

yeah but not as much as it got, 15% is pathetic

[zinc garden]

It happened with a few other things too

[fleet zodiac]

thats a weaken grenade

[rare spear]

why does a special weapon need to have the same debuff as a SUPER

[zinc garden]

It takes one player off of heavy?

[civic kettle]

plus the giga sized weak spot

[fleet zodiac]

because its a special raid exotic that requires 1 of your teammates to not do dps?

[civic kettle]

which is what it's actually used for

[full yacht]

Bro div was busted

[civic kettle]

tractor does the same thing

[rare spear]

you don't exactly think a lot do you?

[full yacht]

Arent you the guy that said 1 floor caretaker is easy

[solemn flame]

you can’t have logic in the destiny 2 gen chat

[full yacht]

You should not be complaining

[fleet zodiac]

not really you can do tractor and do dps

[civic kettle]

u can also fire a rocket with div

[dense spruce]

Has anyone tested weapons stats for destiny 2 just to see if it's you know one of the main importance of your build or not.

[fleet zodiac]

you dont have to continually fire tractor, thats why people who do mechanics mid dps are on tractor

[zealous condor]

People talk like Bungie is at the mercy of ccs for balance and don't have internal data

[solemn flame]

you can tractor once and swap

[full yacht]

Lmfao

[zinc garden]

Data doesn’t always tell an accurate story on its own

[fleet zodiac]

i think div was overpowered but i think it shouldve been like a 20% debuff, its just so niche now that people dont even bother

[zealous condor]

Salt complained sure but he didn't strongarm bungie into nerfing it

[rare spear]

^

[zealous condor]

They made that decision based on their own data

[civic kettle]

that would still make tether useless

[zinc garden]

If my data suggests my game should be played in the menu during boss dps then that’s not good data.

[fleet zodiac]

tether is 30%

and people dont even use tether anyways because now tractor is busted

[civic kettle]

at the cost of a damage super

[full yacht]

Div should have provided either debuff or crit bubble not both

[trail rapids]

destiny players usually don’t have more than one brain cell so you’re not wrong

[fleet zodiac]

tether is also bad i agree it should be better

[rare spear]

ehh it really just needs a duration increase imo

[stuck sail]

Anyone gear level 300+ Has a minute to test if i you can get into Expert Conquests that way? Would be appreciated

[zinc garden]

The majority of Destiny players don’t function at that level, so let’s isolate them from as much of the game as possible?

[fleet zodiac]

why bother with tether if you can get an infinite debuff 30% with tractor and use damage supers and shotgun dps

[solemn flame]

debuff extension at tht point

[rare spear]

well yea

[full yacht]

Well no but the majority of players should not be going into a contest raid expecting a free clear

[rare spear]

it would still make tether a better super tho

[fleet zodiac]

even if tether lasted for like 5m it would be worse than tractor

[flat trellis]

That one irobot gif
No 😐

[full yacht]

And then complaining when it isnt

[zinc garden]

I don’t think that’s what I said?

[solemn flame]

what are we talking abt rage bait?

[fleet zodiac]

you are just being disengenous, nobody said that

[trail rapids]

yes if you can’t learn to just swap to dps weapons with loadouts then you shouldn’t be doing contest raids at all

[fleet zodiac]

"i think the current state of day 1s are too inaccessible and hard to be fun" "oh so you want them to be free?" ????

[trail rapids]

that’s like going into a highly competitive tournament while only starting the game a day before

[zinc garden]

Still though, encounter tuning built around menu time during boss dps in a looter shooter is a schizo take

[trail rapids]

you’re gonna get rolled n smoked like a clown n then you’re gonna wanna cry about it

[rare spear]

exactly like its SUPPOSED to be hard 😭

[fleet zodiac]

crota day 1 was a good difficulty, the problem with it was you had to do it twice

[zealous condor]

Yeah no the menu swapping is really dumb

[rare spear]

I didn't even clear SE or DP and I know its just a skill issue

[trail rapids]

deadass just say you’re not fast enough to do it

[full yacht]

^^

[trail rapids]

you make loadouts for a reason it is NOT that hard

[fleet zodiac]

they qa tested the raid with damage from a BANNED WEAPON like how do you defend that?

[zealous condor]

Never said it was hard

[zinc garden]

That’s like telling someone to bring written scouting notes up to home plate when you go up to bat in baseball.

[zealous condor]

I said it was dumb

[civic kettle]

it's either this or they lock your loadouts

[fleet zodiac]

its not hard, it being required is just bad design

[rare spear]

play a different game then, its only mandatory for 2 days out of the entire content year. If you can't get around that then just don't do contests or play a different game

[zinc garden]

Yes exactly, it’s inherently at odds with the spirit of the game

[zealous condor]

Orrrr notswap

[trail rapids]

nvm i can see why u cry sm u like baseball bro

[livid pagoda]

Bold of you to assume they QA tested anything

[solemn flame]

what’s so bad about a loadout swap

[trail rapids]

dear god I HATE YOU DESTINY PLAYERS

[rare spear]

day ones are NOT meant to be free/accessible to the entire community

[zinc garden]

🎣

[flat trellis]

Bro why is everyone so toxic rn? don’t make me take my anger out on a senior citizen

[surreal dust]

Can someone tell me why my weekly bonus focus point mission isnt counting up?

[fleet zodiac]

thats bait

[vast dew]

🍿

[solemn flame]

It isn’t tho

[zinc garden]

Everything is broken

[bright iron]

That's why day 1's need to be ignored. :>

[trail rapids]

people are saying loadout swapping is dumb

[full yacht]

The majority of players are self isolating tbh. They just farm checkpoints for red borders and then go back to whatever it is they were doing. The ppl that run raids on a regular basis will continue to run raids.

[solemn flame]

why are we complaining so much about a loadout swap

[fleet zodiac]

"whats so bad about requiring players to make 2-5 loadouts for every raid encounter and then switch between them otherwise they cant beat the encounter" yeah idk

[trail rapids]

which tbh it is a lil goofy but it’s deadass in the game for a REASON

[livid pagoda]

I think the complaint is a loadout swap was pretty much required for day 1

[zealous condor]

On paper? Nothing really but it interferes with the flow of gameplay and is kinda a hackjob workaround for bad encounter design

[trail rapids]

like you’re not doing dps with a sword lil brah lock in n swap that damn loadout

[livid pagoda]

I don't think anyone is complaining about them existing

[fleet zodiac]

^^

[civic kettle]

honestly I find it the opposite

[zinc garden]

It’s incidental. A pinnacle FPS activity should have you looking down the barrel of your gun the whole time. Not swapping in menus

[fleet zodiac]

loadout swapping should be an option to mog people in damage reports after the raid, it shouldnt be a requirement to play the game

[full yacht]

Bro gladd trioed the raid on normal difficulty a couple hours ago. Go back to practicing it with a team of 6, im sure you can clear easily, you just gotta figure out what the best options are

[flat trellis]

It’s only dumb if it’s required to clear something

[full yacht]

Final boss but yes

[brisk sage]

Y'all defending the contest boss health and 5 loadout swaps please hand over whatever you are smoking I need some of it

[trail rapids]

loadout swapping should be a tag in fireteam finder

[civic kettle]

contest DP was designed with loadout swaps in mind

[zinc garden]

It’s just as bad as being forced into a QTE to extend boss dps or something. Clashes with the spirit of the game

[civic kettle]

because it's very easy to go from let's say skull fort to curiass

[livid pagoda]

That's dumb

[solemn flame]

so they swapped 5 times in dps not counting going back to not dps build

[fleet zodiac]

saltagreppo terminal brainrot

[civic kettle]

would you prefer if your loadouts were locked?

[livid pagoda]

Bungie doesn't even like loadout swaps, why would they design a raid around it

[fleet zodiac]

kind of yeah

[solemn flame]

?

[fleet zodiac]

if bungie cant make balanced encounters then i guess we have no choice but to lock loadouts

[zealous condor]

Fair nuff. To eack their own 🤷‍♂️. The majority of my raiding days were before swapping was a big thing so I'm a little biased

[trail rapids]

do this and all of a sudden they’re gonna be crying even harder about having to go back to orbit every 5 seconds

[flat trellis]

Salt can suck my motes

[zinc garden]

Salt’s biggest accomplishment was teaching sweats that his takes weren’t the result of mental illness

[tender spindle]

im not opposed to loadout swapping but 4-5 swaps is ridiculous

[civic kettle]

or that they can't hit damage when they are on ad clear loadouts

😭

[vast dew]

Ngl it was funny watching salt sell that one run where he just sat in his inventory all of dmg. Yall see that?

[fleet zodiac]

well its kind of a skill issue because they said they qa tested on swaps and grand overture so idk why people just didnt use grand overture during the raid, are they stupid?

[trail rapids]

wdym my velocity baton can’t do 5.5 million damage??

[civic kettle]

overture was disabled coz of the funny infinite missile bug

[zealous condor]

Was it the one he threw by swapping 5 times in a row

[zinc garden]

They hired SE contest pros and coked them up out of their gourds to playtest

Why yes, the gorilla said this weight machine was suitably challenging for human body builders

[vast dew]

@zealous condor yes lmao

[zealous condor]

That was pretty funny

[civic kettle]

generational fumble

[outer igloo]

Question. Does the "grapple an enemy, then melee when you get close" count as a Melee attack? I'm thinking it does.

[vast dew]

Then he tried to make some bs excuse. Indeed a generational fumble

[zinc garden]

Yes?

[zealous condor]

Mans really freaked out mid final stand and just short circuited lmao

[reef coyote]

They didn't do this at all

[fleet zodiac]

bruh

[flat trellis]

Huh?! Please enlighten me about he infinite missiles

[austere lion]

Is the legendary campaign the only way to get the new exotics

[zinc garden]

I missed you, man

[civic kettle]

lemme find a clip of it

[zealous condor]

The Gambit event also drops them

[livid pagoda]

Just another bug on top of the 7 billion in EOF

[flat trellis]

Thank you and you can dm me if you want

[reef coyote]

I need new haters all the old ones turned into fans

[stable pollen]

has anyone tried glacial quake on koregos

[fleet zodiac]

TLDR i understand where top streamers are coming from bc normal raids are super boring and easy but they should be competing for times instead of asking for contest to be harder and harder

[zealous condor]

Forgot what it's called but it happens periodically on kepler

[vast dew]

@civic kettle send it this way too if you wanna 👀

[zinc garden]

This is definitely still a frenemy situation

[trail rapids]

you’re australian who would wanna hate you

[fleet zodiac]

its not even a raid race anymore its just raid completion now

[zinc garden]

I still haven’t bought the expansion

[tender spindle]

is there any point to joining someone's expert encore if expert no longer gets you a high rank when you launch it yourself?

[zinc garden]

Lmao

[trail rapids]

holy yap

[reef coyote]

not even australian i just set it to australia cuz thats aura

[vast dew]

@fleet zodiac if they weren't bullet sponges and it was all about hard mechanics it would be more fun imo. I dont mind load out swapping but them bosses were tanky af

[flat trellis]

Hello fello Australian 🙋

[fleet zodiac]

if you got a top 200 placement you were cracked at the game, now if you get a top 200 placement that would be impossible because only 170 teams beat the raid

[zinc garden]

I think that spells Aurodwaffle not Aura

[reef coyote]

COLD

[solemn flame]

so we’re spreading misinformation

[fleet zodiac]

yeah we figured out mechanics on day 1 in like an hour or two, and then 10 hours later we just gave up because i didnt care about dps anymore

[livid pagoda]

I don't think anyone really knows what they want anymore. Everyone is jaded

[civic kettle]

@flat trellis @vast dew I sent u both the clip look at the 18:25 mark to see what I was referring fo

[trail rapids]

you willingly becoming australian just tells me you’re willing to be special ed if given the opportunity

[flat trellis]

I take back my welcome

[zinc garden]

More fun than grinding the game rn

[vast dew]

@civic kettle bet

[trail rapids]

sad life you live

[flat trellis]

Thank you

[solemn flame]

did u see what I replied to or what

[livid pagoda]

Real

[fleet zodiac]

thats what i heard for clears was 170 teams

[reef coyote]

Took a flight out to melbourne came back with a gold watch and a keg of piss

[outer igloo]

okay, so I'm running a Relativism with SOIL and Spirit of Cyrtarachne. I was spec'ing into Grenade+Weapons cause that seemed like the best course of action.

[zinc garden]

I’m not here to argue in good faith, friend

[outer igloo]

But I'm wondering if I should be Spec'ing into Grenade+Melee to get the best possible result from that combo.

[fleet zodiac]

if 170 teams is accurate thats less than half of SE, which is a raid that only had low clears because of 1 difficult encounter. the difficulty spike is just

[outer igloo]

Since I get Woven Mail from activating grapple, then with arms mods to get orbs on melee kills, then I can use Font mods to bring up the other stats

[zinc garden]

The difficulty spike was intended for your rectum

[fleet zodiac]

idk i feel like theres nothing to look forward to in the game now with no day 1

[solemn flame]

okay nvm

[fleet zodiac]

i held out hope that SE was a fluke/ big event for the end of the saga but if its going to be like this i really dont have a reason to play

[livid pagoda]

Wdym you don't like farming old exotic missions over and over?

[civic kettle]

it was that low?

[solemn flame]

soil verity while using nav to give ppl woven mail is the play

[zinc garden]

I’m not looking forward to anything. Gating the best drops behind such long grind times has me completely apathetic.

[fleet zodiac]

i sentence you to 500 hours of encore

[livid pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[fleet zodiac]

500 hours of encore aka 20 light levels

[livid pagoda]

New power system is so bad

[fleet zodiac]

yeah thats what i heard

[civic kettle]

I love clearing the contest raid just to get tier 1 armor

[fleet zodiac]

i know it was 100 teams at around 24 hours so 170 seems about right to me

[zinc garden]

I will probably drop $40 to enjoy the campaign with my buddy, assuming he ever logs back in after his contest mode weekend.

[full yacht]

Lmao

[civic kettle]

iirc my team was like 140th or something

[fleet zodiac]

me hotswapping to cuiriass and supering boss 5 times a phase to get 54 stat legs

[civic kettle]

on contest mode

[outer igloo]

I'm mostly solo.

[civic kettle]

:)

[solemn flame]

ah

[livid pagoda]

"enjoy" and eof campaign lol

[ivory stratus]

I think it was just bc of the new sandbox

[fleet zodiac]

i actually liked the campaign tbf

[solemn flame]

but but ball good

[sour ermine]

Sustained damage to enemies also gives you woven

[fleet zodiac]

and i like the new raid i think its too hard though

[civic kettle]

bro is probably taking a long break LOL

[ivory stratus]

Is it only 1 raid this year

[sour ermine]

Yes

[ivory stratus]

Or will I have another chance to do a day 1 😭

[zinc garden]

The writing, not morph ball puzzles

[civic kettle]

it fits in with our current power creep imo

[sour ermine]

No reprised raid

[ivory stratus]

WHY MAN

[fleet zodiac]

like im already apprehensive about lfging SE because i feel like i have to teach the raid every time i do, i honestly just cant even be bothered to lfg desert

[ivory stratus]

I JUST WANT A DAY 1

[livid pagoda]

We're probably not getting much of anything for like 6 months

[sour ermine]

Cuz bringing back wrath would cost Pete 1 too many cars

[ivory stratus]

the only 2 I've seriously attempted have been IMPOSSIBLY HARD

[trail rapids]

then lock in n stop slacking young man

[civic kettle]

you can relive it whenever you want with the contest feat mode

[solemn flame]

people don’t even exist in that raid anymore

[zinc garden]

I never even got around to a clear. The older I get, the less patience I have

[ivory stratus]

Okay but that's not an actual day 1

[fleet zodiac]

we will get WOTM WE WILL GET WOTM

[livid pagoda]

Ya I never bothered with full SE

[ivory stratus]

I just want like

[civic kettle]

closest you can get to it

[zinc garden]

I have nothing left to prove to myself after my GotD SF.

[ivory stratus]

Another crota difficulty day 1 where I don't fkin lfg man

[full yacht]

Wait is that a thing?

[civic kettle]

yes

[fleet zodiac]

its not cope my dad works for braytech and he told me theyre bringing back siva

[ivory stratus]

I got good at the game when day 1s fell off

[crimson raven]

1 raid, 1 dungeon [in renegades] and eventually epic for TDP

[sour ermine]

It doesn't give the emblem right? Haven't touched the raid since day 1

[civic kettle]

correct

[ivory stratus]

it pmo sm

[rugged aspen]

are ballidorse wrathweaver usable ?

[fleet zodiac]

real

[solemn flame]

who wants to run the salvations edge raid that has a total of 3 people running it

[fleet zodiac]

SE verity lowered my opinion of the average lfg by a huge margin

[civic kettle]

I am trusting that Bungie doesn't host another contest weekend like they did with SD

[full yacht]

Fair but trust me the raid s a lot of fun to run initially and then start optimising

[crimson raven]

So for TDP T5 unlock, you need to do 5 runs and then 1 run with 3 feats, yeah?

[civic kettle]

the new raid will lower it even further

[civic kettle]

iirc yes?

[solemn flame]

awhile ago getting a 80 minute clear with lfgs was considered decent

[zinc garden]

When I want a fun raid I just run DSC. Which has players.

[fleet zodiac]

its really cringe how people will just fumble along and walk around in circles not doing mechanics until someone straight up tells them what to do step by step, they dont even try to learn

am i the only one who tries to do a new role every raid so i can learn every role?

[ivory stratus]

I hope they just make the next day 1 not insufferable

[trail rapids]

yea

[livid pagoda]

Not really

[zinc garden]

I did until I got tired of people messing up Vow dunks

[crimson raven]

The guy picking add clear in Wyvern only to learn it's one of the most stressful and demanding jobs in the fight

[livid pagoda]

Vault 💀

[ivory stratus]

"Hey we liked se! More good day 1s please!"
"20 rockets and max low with 2 damage supers minimum"

[trail rapids]

lil bro wants to be versatile in the big 25 on destiny 2 of all games like lock in n stop tryna help your team 😂🔥😭🖕

[full yacht]

☠️

[civic kettle]

it actually is LOL it's why I chose it over doing the platforming

and 100% not me failing the jumps

/s

[full yacht]

Lmfao

[livid pagoda]

Does this raid even have good loot

[fleet zodiac]

5m 1st, 5m 2nd, 5m 3rd, 60m verity, 5m witness

[ivory stratus]

My team oh so graciously got stuck on the hobgoblin 10 minutes into the rqid

I did not beat hobgoblin

[trail rapids]

smg seems chill

[lost birch]

Platforms on anything other then hunter 😂😭

[fleet zodiac]

yeah but you have to increase feats to get it

[solemn flame]

don’t forget about the 15 minute transitions lol

[zinc garden]

The tier 1 drops from contest say “no”

[livid pagoda]

Unreal

[full yacht]

Verity s not even hard with double up holy. The average lfg s just cooked

[civic kettle]

ngl it's the easiest boss

[outer igloo]

too bad this is a stais/solar season and not a stasis/strand season. Prob. will leave it at where I'm at. 163 Grenade 122 Weapons 74 Melee

[fleet zodiac]

i think feats are actually a really cool and interesting system but i do think since its a raid we should start at t3 at least