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[plucky notch]

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[charred yacht]

oh my bad i misread

what was bungie cooking bro

so spoils chest not even useful

[lofty fjord]

Imagine not clearing TDP on contest

[abstract charm]

need to complete the raid a few times to unlock all the Feats
more Feats = higher Tier

[robust hawk]

why was the GM difficulty removed ?

[trim wave]

gm difficulty is basically mythic/fabled now

they open the new "grandmasters" in a week or two

[fleet zodiac]

so is bungie really just not going to say anything about tdp

[charred yacht]

I was so confused by that if you have all the feats are you just like -100 power like what?

[trim wave]

they probably will after the 48 hour mark

[fleet zodiac]

"48 hours is up, oh by the way there was a game breaking bug making the raid 2x harder, whoops"

[trim wave]

bug?

or just bad design

[vocal marten]

Clyde?

[dapper ether]

Damage numbers are plain wrong

[trim wave]

we were talking about datto lol

[lofty fjord]

Cause it wasn't difficult anymore

[fleet zodiac]

i mean i would assume every boss having more hp than day 1 witness is probably a bug

[trim wave]

he and aztecross are still trying to clear contest

[charred yacht]

ladies and gentlemen I think huckleberry is just the goat again

[lofty fjord]

Are you saying you wanted an easier raid?

[trim wave]

its most likely bungie screwing with all their essential systems and miscalculating

but im sure theres bugs in there

[stone ermine]

Yeah but the drops 😢

[dapper ether]

Raid harder mechanically, easier on the DPS optimization min-maxing gamble

[fleet zodiac]

yes, i dont really like doing 2/3 my normal damage in endgame activity because of a scaling bug

[robust hawk]

sure sure, thats why

[fleet zodiac]

if you need to farm special ammo bricks in a corner and then use shoot to loot to replenish ammo during final stand to BARELY clear it, and preform like 4 swaps, theres probably something wrong with the power delta

[olive ermine]

Does anyone know if i join someone who is 350 power to queue that content, will i also get the t4 armour drops?

[trim wave]

im betting theres a problem with every change they made, resulting in this mess

[dapper ether]

No u wont sadly

[wide ice]

350 is tier 4?

[olive ermine]

So i have to be at that light level as well?

How do you know

[trim wave]

yep

[lofty fjord]

Did bungie confirm it's a bug? No right?

[trim wave]

bungie said so

[dapper ether]

The tier of loot you recieve is loosely tied to your power level says bungie

[olive ermine]

How long does it take, roughly, to get from 200 light to t5 armour drops

[trim wave]

they wouldnt let every player just hitch a ride on one guy at 500 and get all the t5s they want

[dapper ether]

and your extra story difficulty completion]

[wide ice]

What tier is tier 4

[steel garnet]

bungie doesn't have to confirm anything, it is a bug

[wide ice]

Power I mean to reach it

[olive ermine]

This was my plan lol

[lofty fjord]

Then I can say even the raid is a bug?

[fleet zodiac]

if this is the intended difficulty of the raid and of endgame in general, this is probably going to be the last day 1 raid people do

[charred yacht]

this sht is just so random and funny there is no rhyme or reason

[trim wave]

tier4 is high scores in the 400 range iirc

[dapper ether]

You can sometimes get it to drop, consistently you have to be above 360 or smth

[wide ice]

damnnit im 306 rn

[lofty fjord]

It very much is intended. No one wants a RON 2.0

[olive ermine]

How long to get to t360

[fleet zodiac]

i mean its not just the raid, you can go into any endgame activity and your dps is like 2/3 what it was pre EOF

[wide ice]

i get tier 3 consistent now

[fleet zodiac]

with the same gear

[trim wave]

"you know how much hp nezarec had? make it 15x that amount. Can't risk anything."

[charred yacht]

bungie just make heavy finisher a mod at this point

[dapper ether]

Dude i have played for 30 hours since EOF release, only at 250, probaly like 24 hours of straight portal to get to 400

[wide ice]

I do encore obv, then min max to get the most points from a new drop

[steel garnet]

like you literally can't tell me it's normal for hefnd's weak taken eyeballs to be tankier than legendary campaign minibosses; third iteration which deals 3x more of its supposed dmg can't oneshot them, yet can oneshot minibosses in the legendary campaign with a body shot

[lofty fjord]

How do you even know when you can't compare pre and post changes? They changed the light level if you hadn't noticed

[wide ice]

A +3-4

[fleet zodiac]

if you think requiring multiple weapon swaps and perfect dps for a contest raid is acceptable then idk enjoy your elitism for now because we arent getting day 1s in the future

[trim wave]

bungie said the grind would take weeks

[olive ermine]

This still works?

[wide ice]

Yes

[lofty fjord]

Too long didn't read. Happy for you though. Or sorry that happened.

[olive ermine]

But your light resets in September w the new season no?

[wide ice]

Thats how im leveling fast

[olive ermine]

Or is it december

[trim wave]

down to 200 yes

[wide ice]

Im min maxing gear from the chests on kepler

[trim wave]

when renegades launches

[dapper ether]

Sadly there is not weeks I have until I am completely bored of the same portal content

[charred yacht]

fighting lion has 0 ammo gen its so over gamers

[olive ermine]

Thats September?

[steel garnet]

it's not even long, you just clearly lack brain cells

[fleet zodiac]

what?

are you trolling or?

[charred yacht]

(yes hes baiting)

[twin harbor]

Do i actually own all of these dungeons or are they going to rip them away from me tomorrow

[fleet zodiac]

you go into sundered doctrine pre eof and easily 2 phase final, you go in now and you are cracked if you can get a 3 phase

[charred yacht]

i dont think they are gonna get removed but who knows lol

[lofty fjord]

Maybe you just got bad

[stone ermine]

If you bought them they’re yours, if not theyre leaving

[trim wave]

depends on what youve purchased

[fleet zodiac]

its very obvious something is wrong with the scaling when i have 50% more super damage and 10% more weapon damage due to stats and im doing much less damage than i was pre eof

[twin harbor]

i bought the 80$ edition of edge of fate so i HOPE i have access to everything in the game rn

[stone ermine]

All dungeons free until the 22nd

[dapper ether]

Depends on how much you pay for lawyers

[twin harbor]

I did not buy the dungeons

[stone ermine]

Then you’re not gonna be able to play them 22nd or after not sure

[trim wave]

you have access to all things EoF and renegades

[steel garnet]

seriously bring back death penalty omg

[trim wave]

not things prior

[lofty fjord]

Isn't that dungeon been solo flawlesses in 22mins? Are you using that as an example?

[charred yacht]

oh well yea if you didnt buy them of course they are going away lol

[twin harbor]

everyone pray for me that i get buried bloodline on my first try tomorrow

[vocal marten]

Safe to assume Bungie hates you and will take your stuff out eventually

[stone ermine]

What am I looking at

[charred yacht]

promethus lens has 100 ammo gen 😎

[lofty fjord]

Fr bruh you can't complain this is the easiest game has been

[trim wave]

just do a solo flawless run, easy +6 odds

[fleet zodiac]

if this is actually the intended difficulty for day 1s then i'm just not doing them anymore, and i dont think most other people are either. when you have content creators whos job it is to play destiny quit the raid race before 24 hours are up, there is a major problem with the longevity of the game

[lofty fjord]

Just ask datto

[wide ice]

distribution

its for cuirass titan

[stone ermine]

I’ve run wr like 20 times still no bb

[steel garnet]

get banned dude, you are like one of the most pathetic baiters on this server fr

[vocal marten]

[dapper ether]

You should be able to have a job and be able to to the day 1, not this bs

[trim wave]

some significant content creators cant even clear contest for this raid, there will be backlash lol

[solemn flame]

this is the first valid take youve ever had congrats

[full yacht]

What?

[charred yacht]

tarrabah also has 100 😎

[stone ermine]

All dungeons free until the 22nd

[lofty fjord]

For what lol? This raid is exactly what ya'll have been asking since RON

[steel garnet]

you haven't even entered a single dung or raid since eof came out so stfu

[full yacht]

Huh i swear that wasnt the case when i tried to launch one i didnt own

[solemn flame]

this ain’t even difficulty at this point it’s just sponge bosses

[stone ermine]

They should be free

[steel garnet]

some of them are disabled for some reason

[stone ermine]

^

[steel garnet]

just like skullface

[lofty fjord]

What does that have to do with your inability to play the game

[wide ice]

Sounds like Mythic difficulty

[fleet zodiac]

even if you grinded 16 hours a day since eof, that doesnt even make the day 1 smooth, it makes it barely possible. is this isnt a power delta bug then this is a new level of incompetance from bungie

[full yacht]

Did they make em free along with the dlcs or did they do dungeons separately at a later date

[dire lichen]

the hp inflation is about as bad as star rail and the banlist makes it worse

[dapper ether]

Nah bungie just said it and didn't give it like the supposed "old seasonal content" they were bringing back

[lofty fjord]

I agree. It's not difficult at all

[stone ermine]

Just dungeons

[steel garnet]

that you are just a pathetic troll

[dire lichen]

i think the banlist they imposed was so botched

[solemn flame]

I don’t think ur understanding

[fleet zodiac]

the fact that i am in a team with multiple day 1 raiders, and we are seeing an enrage timer on the NORMAL MODE version of the raid means something is wrong

[sour ermine]

Not banning lord of wolves knowing damn well people weren't clearing without it

[full yacht]

Oh i see

[dire lichen]

banning outbreak is bananas

[dapper ether]

"we suck at balancing so were gonna give you less options"

[wide ice]

the contest emblem is mid anyways

[fleet zodiac]

whats funny is people were only clearing with low because it was bugged lmao

[plucky steppe]

got the raid exotic first try 😭

[solemn flame]

I cleared with my clan who’s only done day 1 ron on normal it ain’t that tough and it’s ur problem

[full yacht]

How was it bugged

[plucky steppe]

too bad it looks buns

[fleet zodiac]

and giving you like 2x the reserves

[dapper ether]

how buns is it

[charred yacht]

some ammo bug that game more reserves

[full yacht]

Damn

[plucky steppe]

imma test it now

[charred yacht]

like 400 vs 180

[lofty fjord]

Okay bro but you're the one complaining about something that you asked for so it's ironic you call me pathetic

[full yacht]

Holy

[solemn flame]

damn so how do I do this

[steel garnet]

they probably didn't even know it would be this hard as I'm 95% sure they tested that raid during preeof power system when dungs and raids were like 4x easier and less tanky

[charred yacht]

i just know it exists i have no idea

[fleet zodiac]

bait

[sour ermine]

HDR flashbang

[solemn flame]

no im serious

[steel garnet]

you can't even read and u re a dumb troll

[fleet zodiac]

i didnt say it was hard, i said the normal mode feeling about as hard as a master did pre eof.

[dire lichen]

probably fired half their testers

[solemn flame]

theyv only done contest ron and we were getting easy 2 phases

[fleet zodiac]

which would make sense if there was the -20 power bug because that would make the raid like -20 to -30

[plucky steppe]

long ass charge time huge radius decent damage

[stone ermine]

Why ikora looking at me like I killed her 😭✌️

[solemn flame]

it isn’t hard it feels like it’s normal

[plucky steppe]

def wont be a meta weapon

[fleet zodiac]

unless youre running 5 titans and 1 warlock i just legitimately dont believe you

[lofty fjord]

Okay bro watch out for the vex in your patrols, I know you've died to them already

[sour ermine]

Charge time that's made much shorter by dealing damage with other weapons

[plucky steppe]

yeah true

[dire lichen]

hp inflation ≠ difficulty

[dapper ether]

It's all okay guys. Pete Parsons is going to buy more classic cars and we'll all be happier

[plucky steppe]

idk I think it will be vault fodder for a while until I see some builds

[solemn flame]

we had 2 titans 3 hunters 1 warlock and we were on thunderlord with a swap to lord

it’s not that hard brah

[lofty fjord]

What I've been saying

[dapper ether]

But what about for those of us who have a job and families?

[full yacht]

Ratio

[olive ermine]

How long does it take to go from 200-350 power roughly.

[steel garnet]

more like -30; it says -10 but in fact it's -30

[lofty fjord]

I mean some team I've never heard of was able to clear it

[solemn flame]

that’s on normal contest is not like that

[charred yacht]

it does make it harder, u could say its not like meaningful i guess tho

[dapper ether]

weeks, 20 hrs of portal grinding

[vital sedge]

We just released the raid race, do you think we have a top 100 or is it too late?

[lofty fjord]

Ig salt and datto giving casuals a chance to win some belts

[olive ermine]

20 hrs fr? Thats not that bad ngl

[fleet zodiac]

ok so you are baiting

[trim wave]

more like a top 8 at best, if that many have even cleared

[dire lichen]

4/10 ragebait

[lofty fjord]

Last I checked 25 teams were through

[solemn flame]

dude it’s normal you have a whole yr to learn it and get a decent dmg phase like

[full yacht]

What?

[steel garnet]

someone take care of that skullface baiter

[lofty fjord]

You tell em

[lofty fjord]

Did you die to that patrol again?

[solemn flame]

if u didn’t know t lord is js a way to get a 2nd super im not baiting u burgr

[raven venture]

where can you see this?

[steel garnet]

what are you even talking about

[fleet zodiac]

"its not that hard, all you need to do is use 2 possibly bugged exotics and do a mid phase swap and you can 2 phase, this is definitely the correct level of difficulty for a normal raid"

[trim wave]

25 sounds reasonable but a little high to me

[solemn flame]

bro I manually swapped on a controller that’s how much time I have to do that on normal

[twin harbor]

are hte dungeons still farmable or no

[vital sedge]

We just released the raid race, do you think we have a top 100 or is it too late?

[trim wave]

dont forget the absoulte flalwess execution of dps phases and literally any mistake in any dps phase means you fail

[steel garnet]

dude's trolling and baiting and then making some inside jokes only he understands

[lofty fjord]

No, it's correct level for contest. Who cares about normal

[full yacht]

You finished you mean?

[solemn flame]

It’s normal not a grandmaster raid like u act like it is

[fleet zodiac]

if you need your entire team to weapon swap to 2 phase on a non final boss in a normal raid, something is wrong.

[vital sedge]

Yeah boy

[lofty fjord]

Hasn't the witness been solod? Did you want another ez boss like that

[solemn flame]

my entire team wasn’t doing that too they js used a sniper

[vital sedge]

I have a # or no ?

[trim wave]

if this was the same as the other contests, wed have thousands of people with contest clears

[dapper ether]

Ok i do have to say normal was quite easy but contest was aboslutely impossbile

[full yacht]

Prolly top 50. Congrats!

[solemn flame]

I’m talking about normal but for contest you have a point

[fleet zodiac]

are there any bosses in the game you cant 1 phase that arent final boss without swapping pre eof? i cant think of any

[vital sedge]

Amazing ty my boy

[trim wave]

i only really talk about contest lol, i imagine normal is fairly easy as raids usually are out of contest

[tacit oar]

people that kick for light level really are dumb lol

[dire lichen]

you can even do everything right and just not get it because of the 5000 long minute boss death animation at the end

[solemn flame]

yea

[dapper ether]

Is there any point in doing the raid more than a few times? Is it always just going to be tier 1 or 2 terrible loot?

[solemn flame]

yes however u have to actually optimise and use your brain

[fleet zodiac]

normal desert is harder than SE

[lofty fjord]

Yeah anything works in normal why even talk about it

[solemn flame]

jus stop talking like holy

[trim wave]

seeing what gun rolls you get i guess

[lofty fjord]

That's like asking what build to use for a patrol

[dire lichen]

i believe it

[vocal marten]

[fleet zodiac]

baiters are out in full force

[lofty fjord]

It is indeed a skill issue if you think normal is harder than anything

[solemn flame]

the more clears and runs you do there’s a triumph that will reward you will guarentee +1 tier

[full yacht]

You're not 1 flooring caretaker anyway

[fleet zodiac]

if you dont think normal desert is harder than SE you either failed geometry or you are delusional, you could literally 1 phase witness by a wide margin by holding left click with a linear.

[dapper ether]

So after 5 clears you go from tier 1 to tier 2 loot?

[solemn flame]

I farm se I can say dp is easier on normal but dp on contest because of how tight the dps is harder but mechanically isn’t @full yacht back me up brah

[solemn flame]

yes

[trim wave]

think someone said it depends on the difficultiy of the clear

[pine sedge]

chat what is the best warlock build rn 😭

[fleet zodiac]

1 floor caretaker isnt even that hard

[full yacht]

Vouch

[trim wave]

probably starfire

[solemn flame]

that’s not true QB artifact is gone and is out of meta

[tender spindle]

this is very true.

[charred yacht]

bro prometheus lens makes so much ammo kinda crazy

[dapper ether]

What is the point in farming the raid then, seems really repetitive for really mid loot

[fleet zodiac]

if you farm se and you think dp is easier than you might be bad at SE im ngl

[solemn flame]

prob to get the higher tier set bonus armour

[fleet zodiac]

im literally alt tabbed during 90% of se runs because the mechanics are baby easy

[full yacht]

If you're 1 flooring caretaker then you wouldn't be complaining

[lofty fjord]

If you struggle in normal anything, it's a skill issue and you should go farm some guns and glimmer blueberry

[tender spindle]

after beating DP, this is a harder raid than SE in many respects. SE is only hard for people with few brain cells. these mechanics are super tight, and the damage checks are pretty strong, even on normal.

[dusk aspen]

I shattered scated for the first time and now i have no idea how to do it again

[solemn flame]

dude the whole meta changed in eof for se the mechanics aren’t baby easy if u know how to optimise there’s a difference between lfg strats and speed strats

[dusk aspen]

Lmao

[full yacht]

^^

[vocal marten]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[fleet zodiac]

i'm not feeding the baiters anymore, dp is obviously way more demanding than se was, there is a huge dps difference in every endgame activity that is well documented across multiple videos with damage testing, stop glazing bungie at every chance you get

[solemn flame]

se mechanics were tight no?

[blissful scaffold]

It seem that i missed the Special ammo generate finisher thing from last season artifact. Most of my legend story run ran out of Special fast. 🥀

[pine sedge]

completing the campaign a 2nd time got me to 200 power easy 😭

[fleet zodiac]

ok i found the problem, youre just bad at se

se mechanics are easy

[solemn flame]

you don’t even farm se how can u have a word if u haven’t even ran it recently

[dapper ether]

dude idek what yall are fighting about

[solemn flame]

learn se speed stats then

[fleet zodiac]

you can literally mess up like 3 times in verity in a single round and still complete it

[tender spindle]

they are but they are pretty chill for the most part.

[full yacht]

Bro he s one of the top se players lol. You have no idea who you're talking to

[blissful scaffold]

All raid mechanic are ez once u get the hang of it

[solemn flame]

se still had a longer worlds 1st because of mechanics tho

[fleet zodiac]

and?

[charred yacht]

yea the game is a lot different now i think bungie made it much worse with these changes

[tender spindle]

se mechanics take 5 minutes to learn if you aren't dumb and after that they are as easy as sitting on plates in vog.

[full yacht]

Nullifies you saying he's bad at se

[solemn flame]

dp has easier mechanics as I said but dps is obviously more tight

[trim wave]

id assume that gives him authority to say things like this

[fleet zodiac]

just because he does the raid a lot doesnt make him right, if i was a dsc crypt farmer and i said "dsc is actually harder than dp" im pretty sure most people would say "no?"

[solemn flame]

that’s why worlds 1st was 19 hours yup

[blissful scaffold]

Now i put on special and heavy finder helmet mod now

[pliant parrot]

i thought it was 14h

[fleet zodiac]

yeah how many of those were figuring out verity

[blissful scaffold]

90 percent

[tender spindle]

verity was an incredibly hard puzzle to solve but once solved its the easiest encounter in the entire raid, once again unless you're dumb

[vocal marten]

That’s the point

[dapper ether]

SE was perfect, mechanics were difficult to learn and was not overly reliant on finnicky and buggy damage strats for contest

[tender spindle]

agreed on this one.

[lofty fjord]

SE was easy. Didn't need another SE 2.0

[fleet zodiac]

verity mechanics arent hard they were just hard to figure out

[vocal marten]

The point

[fleet zodiac]

vault isnt "hard", its just hard to do when you dont know how it works

[blissful scaffold]

Verity before it was discorvered

[tender spindle]

exactly. this guy aint usin his brain

[final perch]

https://x.com/fish_seller/status/1506084286684102657?s=46

イタリ (@fish_seller)

X · Mar 22, 2022, 1:44 AM

[full yacht]

Wdyt a contest raid offers

[vocal marten]

The. Point.

[lofty fjord]

So is riding a bike what's your point

[solemn flame]

what strat did contest use

[tender spindle]

for witness? 5 celestial nighthawk hunters with still hunt, one of the most broken weapons in the history of the game

[solemn flame]

verity

[pliant parrot]

this is getting work done

[fleet zodiac]

thats like me making a raid encounter that is "shoot a button from a list of 1000 buttons, the correct button is always 57 but they dont know that, it took them 5 hours to figure this raid encounter out" once people know what the correct button is, the encounter is very easy

[tender spindle]

you want me to explain to you the entire verity encounter?

^

[solemn flame]

no what strat was done in contest

[dapper ether]

The entire point of a contest mode raid is to be difficult to figure out, not difficult because of min-maxing and bugginess. It should not be difficult in retrospect, obviously because once you do figure it out it is manageable and now easy to learn and accessible

[lofty fjord]

Still waiting on a point

[full yacht]

Good ole double up lmfao

[tender spindle]

i could eat a sandwich while playing verity bruh its that easy

[fleet zodiac]

^^

[pliant parrot]

wanna carry me?

[full yacht]

Haha

[dusky shoal]

if I dont have the crafted sniper from Last Wish, whats a good replacement?

[tender spindle]

no need cause you can do it too

[dapper ether]

Yeah but i cant lie you arent good at the game if the normal mode desert perpetual is hard

[full yacht]

Vog sniper

[tender spindle]

if you cant survive 8 thralls in a room thats crazy work

[lofty fjord]

Crafted sniper from VOG. Or really anything

[dusky shoal]

and if I dont have ANY raid only sniper..

[fleet zodiac]

this is why vow is generally considered the best difficulty contest raid minus bugs, once you knew what to do the raid was hard but fair. honestly i think people have been getting fed up with day 1s since crota

[full yacht]

Can you early out?

[solemn flame]

in contest the best strats wasn’t used like fast strat if your doubling up ofc it’s easy but knowing all the tech in verity is completely different

[potent peak]

usually I feel fomo from not getting contest modes done but I got the raid exotic first try and I think these feats are a good way to have challenge

[pliant parrot]

lol doing 12m kell's fall runs

[tender spindle]

vog sniper is goated

[lofty fjord]

Ppl were fed up with RON too, that was before Crota

[fleet zodiac]

SE was a long clear bc of verity and the raid is just long, crota was just annoying because the mechanics were baby easy but you 1) had to do the raid twice and 2) crota is just a terrible boss on contest, and DP obviously speaks for itself

[lofty fjord]

No no tell us about DP o wise one

[thin bluff]

LFG +1 to conquest mode

[solemn flame]

and dp was a long clear because of dps checks that’s it and dp is mechanically easier what’s the point

[tender spindle]

i got gauntlets that werent even my focused archetype from every encounter :(

[fleet zodiac]

yeah thats not fun or interesting, if the day 1 is hard because you have to do 3 perfect swaps during dps and not miss a single bullet then i just dont care about them anymore

[stone rune]

game is cooked isnt it

[solemn flame]

wasn’t the point that dp was harder then se?

[amber hollow]

Guys I think we're in a 720 pvp meta

[vocal marten]

Yep lmao

[tender spindle]

yup

[fleet zodiac]

day 1? debatable. normal? yes easily

[abstract charm]

720 autos 🤮

[potent peak]

I have concerns that renegades wont have a new planet and that alone may kill it entirely for me

[stone rune]

it wont

[fleet zodiac]

once you know what to do in SE the raid is baby easy, knowing what to do is like 20% of the battle in DP

[dapper ether]

Nah bro we just have to add the Marvel Expansion after and its chilling

[stone rune]

its probably gonna take place on mars

[tender spindle]

renegades is likely to be dredgen lore and thats probably going to be cool

[lofty fjord]

Take a look at the charts. Majority of player base has already left

[potent peak]

thats my only incentive

[trim wave]

i think the star wars theme will be too heavy and any players who are staying in case it still feels like destiny will leave

[potent peak]

just more story

[tender spindle]

same here. the star wars stuff is a major buzzkill tho.

[dapper ether]

Yeah im talking about the people that are left lmao

[stone rune]

literally about to be another COS situation

[amber hollow]

Y'all are washed

[lofty fjord]

That's a lotta words to say you have a skill issue

[solemn flame]

once u know what to do in dp too it’s much easier and in dp its easier to do damage because there’s 0 rotations you left click thunderlord

[charred yacht]

i dont really care if it "feels like destiny" i just want like cool exotics, raids, and dungeons tbh

[tender spindle]

how long was your first DP clear

[stone rune]

thats gone now jma

[solemn flame]

where’s your clear

[fleet zodiac]

true. care to explain the optimal rotation for queensbreaker on witness?

[charred yacht]

this new raid is cool tho

[dapper ether]

dude it could be cool but seems so insignifigant, we are basically gods who killed the most powerful thing in the universe, whats next? An archon we could have just evaporated with our light but instead becomes a mediocre boss fight?

[tender spindle]

wearing the emblem rn fren

[charred yacht]

just the game sucks now unfortunately

[tender spindle]

binding the nine sounds pretty wild to me

[stone rune]

we aint getting nothing now till september its so over

[solemn flame]

It’s not even QB I already stated this for 10 months it was still hunt rotation for 1 season it was a artifact are we in heresy?

[fleet zodiac]

im like 85% sure the game is bugged and we're doing a fraction of the damage we're supposed to, if we arent then the game might actually be cooked

[surreal comet]

whats the best encore farm channel

[full yacht]

Damn did u clear on contest?

[tender spindle]

HELL no

[fleet zodiac]

im just not playing the game if every raid is going to be 35% harder

[solemn flame]

you think he cleared on contest

[lofty fjord]

What makes you think I play this dead game

[full yacht]

Uh ok?

[solemn flame]

his takes are enough to say hn

[dapper ether]

Need destiny 3 to come out, make it durinG the collapse and leave all of this junk behind, game isnt even about the traveler anymore

[potent peak]

I judged it so harshly when my experience was doing it on contest and starting with hydra

[fleet zodiac]

do you know what a second order consequence is

[solemn flame]

@fleet zodiac

[tender spindle]

the fact you chat in an lfg server. if you quit the game its pretty sad that you sit in here

[charred yacht]

i kinda feel like this raid will have less contest clears than SE we will see tho

[lofty fjord]

Tiny violin

[solemn flame]

yeah

[stone rune]

oh hes one of those i hate d2 but still stay in servers kinda chud

[lofty fjord]

Less teams trying usually has that effect

[fleet zodiac]

"yes make every raid boss have 50% more hp, this is a good change to make the game harder and more fun" yeah surely this will have no consequences

[stone rune]

cringe

[lofty fjord]

I don't hate D2. I love it too much to still play what it has become

[charred yacht]

I ran it on normal today, and enjoyed it all the encounters were pretty neat, I felt the mechanics on final boss and the wyvern were kinda lame tho

[fleet zodiac]

surely the 2% of people who do raids will not drop to like 0.5% leading to the slow bleedout of playercount

[stone rune]

oh so me LOL

[tender spindle]

i think you need the tiny violin 🤣

[delicate aspen]

does anyone have guide for the new raid?

[lofty fjord]

I'm not the one complaining

[full yacht]

Idk i havent run dp but the other raids seem more fun to run now

[dapper ether]

How does bungie stay afloat dude, arent all their games dead/dying?

[fleet zodiac]

i started with hobgoblin 💀

[lofty fjord]

Datto has one. Once he beats it.

[charred yacht]

thats true, but I think it will be like muuuch less. the amount of perfection the final encounter demands looked insane

[cyan mauve]

how did i get Melas Panoplia without completing the legendary campaign? i only completed the regular mode

[dusk aspen]

Same

[tender spindle]

he just cleared a few minutes ago

[gray meadow]

It's a telling regardin the massive discounts lately

[stone rune]

legend only

[dapper ether]

Sieve gives the exotic

[fleet zodiac]

very interesting and balanced day 1 encounter where you randomly take like 1/4th of your hp in damage from snipers every 2 seconds

[lofty fjord]

Took him long enough. Some elitist

[tender spindle]

hobgoblin is such a cool encounter tho for real.

[cyan mauve]

oh really

[fleet zodiac]

with double solar and sniper resist

[pure hull]

guys im lowkey a bit lost, what is there to do other then powerfarm and do the new raid - i got 200 power gear on all 3 chars, finished all 3 campaigns, did most of the side missions most of which were giga boring.

[lofty fjord]

What did you expect contest to be like? I'm genuinely curious

[pure hull]

am i missing something? i feel like i dont have any drive to farm new armor tbh, doesnt feel rewarding like it used to to me

[charred yacht]

thats normal on contest tho

[tender spindle]

heal clip solves that

[spiral grove]

DATTO DID ITTT

[gray meadow]

So it's confirmed. U get it not only from leg campaing

[dapper ether]

Im in the same spot, theres really nothing to do

[fleet zodiac]

idk i expected the raid bosses not to have more hp than day 1 witness probably

[stone rune]

game has nothing now at all its sad

[dapper ether]

Yeah the bonus gambit stuff on sieve drops it

[fleet zodiac]

does he know

[delicate aspen]

[charred yacht]

the like 100 loadout swaps, lord of wolves ammo bug, etc just to clear was not normal for contest

[full yacht]

Wait so what even is the point in grinding for higher power levels lol

[solemn flame]

glaive block trust

[stone rune]

there is none

[tender spindle]

i mean if we are still talking about normal, i barely ever broke my shields because of heal clip in that encounter.

[unborn ledge]

where do i look for sieve gamers?

[fleet zodiac]

does he know it takes like half a clip from a heal clip auto/smg to kill a red bar

[pure hull]

idk i dont feel like farming new armor cuz levels are just gonna be reset on new season, new armor stats are cool and all but all my builds work just fine with my old armor lmao

[stone rune]

you grind power to unlock old content you already own thats it

[potent peak]

and bad rallies

[lofty fjord]

And when has bungie ever lowered health for a succeeding boss?

[tender spindle]

vision of confluence is far better in this meta than an smg

[potent peak]

and death bug

[charred yacht]

the bugs bro were sooooo bad

[tender spindle]

especially in such a huge arena

[stone rune]

wanna do master ops gotta hit 270 lol

[fleet zodiac]

if you shot a primary at the orange bar minotaurs i think it would take like 30 full seconds to kill one if they were locked in place

[vocal marten]

Something you didn’t experience

[charred yacht]

bungie is unbelievable this is by far the buggiest contest mode

[fervent veldt]

scout rifle 🥀

[tender spindle]

consecration for mins

[fleet zodiac]

what?

[tender spindle]

also procs heal

[fleet zodiac]

you can literally go and check the numbers right now

[charred yacht]

its actually impressive somehow bungie removed all of the good bugs like infinite dps but kept all of the bad bugs\

[full yacht]

😭

[fleet zodiac]

lol

[pure hull]

ig ill wait for gm nightfalls to release, see what the requirements are and then ill see if power grind is smth i gonna get myself into but for now i feel like there is no need to waste my time on grinding power

[potent peak]

so we gatekeeping general knowledge

[fervent veldt]

insta died from getting out of matterspark for no reason thanks bungie

[stone rune]

i wish i was joking and youll get reset in renegades back to 200 to repeat the process

[fleet zodiac]

sorry because i didnt do day 1 witness im incapable of looking at hp values

[fervent veldt]

competent company

[lofty fjord]

There was a reason. You just don't know it

[fervent veldt]

0/10 rage bait no listening nice try

[lofty fjord]

It's okay. We all start somewhere

[dapper ether]

No seasonal story either, actually 0 intrigue of the game

[gilded oriole]

anyone know a site that tracks sieve timer

[vocal marten]

No but I means you can’t really say one day one is harder than the other

[tender spindle]

did you see the buff on the left side of your screen that said you cant exit?

[fervent veldt]

they removed gm nightfalls

[peak phoenix]

is there a channel to look for the new raid in normal mode?

[solemn flame]

nah but a alarm works

[gilded oriole]

aint setting no 2 hr alarm 😭

[tender spindle]

conquests are GMs

[fervent veldt]

i was outside, plus i have matterspark 3

[dapper ether]

Theres GM difficulty, but thats like 400+

[pure hull]

wait they will not be added back into our content? LMFAO this game is cooked

[fleet zodiac]

im pretty sure consecration wouldnt even do like half the minotaurs hp

[solemn flame]

they exist at 300+ light

[fleet zodiac]

with synthos

[potent peak]

is 400+ locked behind ash and iron?

[fervent veldt]

he said nightfalls, and conquests arent nightfalls

[pure hull]

so they want me to grind 100+ power levels just to play content i was able to play prior to the update

[tender spindle]

its what is replacing them

[dapper ether]

Yeah

[stone rune]

Yes

[tender spindle]

very clearly

[pure hull]

what the actual frick lmfao

[full yacht]

Omfg

[lofty fjord]

More destiny. What's not to love

[fleet zodiac]

ur bait is just boring at this point tbh, either youre the biggest bungie glazer ever or just desperate for attention

[tender spindle]

yeah :/

[dapper ether]

100+ completions of encore makes me whole again

[stone rune]

Welcome to new destiny 2 where the narrative team cools peak but everyone else did nothing

[tender spindle]

REAL

[solemn flame]

it’s so boring I genuinely couldn’t after master

[potent peak]

can u reach 450?

[lofty fjord]

Your bait is the same old 'This is bad because I can't do it'

[potent peak]

encore will make me god

[pure hull]

tbh i dont even hate the power leveling itself, its just that i need to repeat the same fricking thing over and over again to level effectively, on the other hand its nice to not have to wait for next reset to get new pinnacles ig

[dusky shoal]

also im pretty sure the ghost mods that weight the armor stat rolls are completely broken. I have had the specialist mod equipped since the start of the season and every armor i get is still random

[tender spindle]

LMAO

[fleet zodiac]

how many completion is DP at now? is it still less than 300?

[pliant parrot]

oh isht, theres a new nine inch nails song

[tender spindle]

yeah i dont mind a steep power grind but give me more than 3 options in pinnacle ops ffs

[pliant parrot]

trey still avlie

[potent peak]

your pfp is literally nezarec pantheon... this game is your life bro...

[pliant parrot]

trent even

[stone rune]

Your just gonna get reset in renegades it ain't worth

[lofty fjord]

Don't tell me you found pantheon nezzy hard

[fleet zodiac]

yeah alienate all but the top 0.0000001% of players this is a good business strategy

[potent peak]

I curbstomped him?

[alpine garnet]

what’s new in the best video game?

[pure hull]

agreed, i feel like i'd love to be able to get pinnacles from basically any activity as long as its either time gated in the sense that you cant do it 365days of the year OR it being proper difficulty, would make it feel more rewarding aswell

[solemn flame]

encore

[pliant parrot]

no one has ever accused bungie of making decisions that benefitted the player

[lofty fjord]

Go back to RON launch days and see the convo then. Everyone wanted this you're the only one who doesn't so get to farming

[dapper ether]

What if instead of removing content and limiting players they just optimized the game engine and gave us all the old content back? Wait....

[pure hull]

i wanna play the content to farm proper weapons, materials and such though and that requires power grind xdd this is so cooked

[dapper ether]

"Bungie recently announced significant layoffs affecting 220 employees, approximately 17% of its workforce"

All the people that knew the old game are probably just gone. Just bozos. Who on the team genuinely could have cleared contest mode raid?

[solemn flame]

I think they are broke for that

[alpine garnet]

but ts not new

[potent peak]

how skullface feels glazing a raid launch worse than Cyberpunk 2077 launch

[stone rune]

On god

[fleet zodiac]

yeah everyone wanted day 1s to be harder. thats what people were saying after crota and SE

people said "oh crota was actually too easy on day 1 we need harder day 1s"

[solemn flame]

yh I’m lyin rn the new raid ig

[potent peak]

bugs = harder guys

trust

[solemn flame]

did anyone even say that after se?

[lofty fjord]

And now see DP mechanics. Baby steps

[pure hull]

lets quickly waste 72hours of our lives playing the same 3 pinnacle ops missions over and over and over again just to be able to do what we want to do in the game we paid for xdd

[lofty fjord]

My grandma could do them

[fleet zodiac]

"sorry day 1 SE was just a little too easy for me, make the next raid a boss rush in which every boss has more hp than witness" thats what people were saying right?

[lofty fjord]

Yes

[dapper ether]

Just wait until the memory leaks get so bad all speedruns need to be under an hour to prevent crashes midway

[stone rune]

The fact I'm locked out from stuff I've already done is insane

[lofty fjord]

People did want more bosses

[fleet zodiac]

whats the fallacy called where you latch onto 1 insignificant part of their argument instead of addressing the whole thing in good faith?

[lofty fjord]

No one wants to do non boss encounters. Except if it's like verity but even then maybe not

[dapper ether]

People did want more bosses but there should have been more flexibility with damage options apart from a singular niche loadout swap

[lofty fjord]

You're free to use whatever you want. No one is asking you to 1 phase

Play how you like and do maybe an extra phase

[potent peak]

devs asking me to 90 phase LMAO

[fleet zodiac]

yeah people love really tanky bosses, thats why people play garden so much right?

[dapper ether]

Specifically in contest - 3 phase with thunderlord low swap

[fleet zodiac]

thats why everyones favorite raid is garden?

[lofty fjord]

Garden bosses are S tier. It's the gambit that people hate

[alpine garnet]

idk i only like dsc

[solemn flame]

no 1 enjoys gos because it’s braindead easy

[fleet zodiac]

yeah 3 phase thunderlords swap, good ammo rng, spend 10 minutes making ammo in corner with special finisher so you can shoot to loot it during final phase to maybe clear. intended difficulty btw

[stone rune]

All dsc enemies and swords now regardless of your power level

[lofty fjord]

Crota and Vow are my top 2. Don't like vow aesthetic but good raid

[dapper ether]

Truth

[abstract charm]

extra 10

[alpine garnet]

wtff

[dapper ether]

They all kinda suck now though becuase theyre all harder + have worse loot

[solemn flame]

doesn’t seem to bad if u say it like tht

[fleet zodiac]

are you baiting or do you just actually have the wrong opinion on everything

[alpine garnet]

ts time to do master gotd solo flawless

[stone rune]

Wish I was joking

[lofty fjord]

You're the only one crying here so

[solemn flame]

se is harder then dp!

[stone rune]

So skull enemies lol

[potent peak]

also can we farm loot from DP?

[solemn flame]

yea

[potent peak]

like diff loot or the same

[fleet zodiac]

oh yeah i forgot the contest had skull enemies

[lofty fjord]

Depends on encounter

[charred yacht]

with spoils u mean right? or can u just farm encounters?

[fleet zodiac]

maybe its just a visual bug (clueless)

[alpine garnet]

ok maybe i should continue playing fallout 4

[stone rune]

LOL

[solemn flame]

for loot

[charred yacht]

wacky

can you not farm spoils anymore? anywhere

[potent peak]

that made me fluoride stare my monitor

[dapper ether]

The loot sucks though, not gonna deal with the raid anymore lol

[solemn flame]

se can farm spoils so it’s goated yup

[charred yacht]

oh I see

[stone rune]

What spoils

[dapper ether]

Desert perpetual should have been minimum T3 loot and gone up with more completions, not start at t1

[potent peak]

new loot or js whatever you have acquired

[stone rune]

[fleet zodiac]

guys why do enemies have skulls in my -25 raid?

[solemn flame]

idk

[stone rune]

Explain

[potent peak]

-25 was such absolute lies dude

[dapper ether]

the enemies r lowk easy just shoot them

[lofty fjord]

Nah that would become the same thing we had before. Ppl asked the grind. What's next? You want armor crafting?

[solemn flame]

I think starting off with t2 would of been fine

[fleet zodiac]

the raid is -20 that means enemies are about as tanky as fabled, right guys?

[charred yacht]

man forbearance is crazy good at ammo gen as well

[dapper ether]

Dont give bungie ideas

[tired oriole]

is forb back

[lofty fjord]

I think raid should be capped at t3. And T4 only for master raid. T5 for master raid challenges

[fleet zodiac]

enemies in the new raid contest mode have skull indicators. the raid was supposed to be at like -25. skulls show up at -40

[solemn flame]

yh and doesn’t have bugged ammo pickups

[alpine garnet]

next raid we gon use izanagi x4 honed shot to kill a red bar with a single shot

[charred yacht]

with like 200 weapons stat u get like 6 shots back per brick

[hallow wasp]

the real fivebearance is always forbearance

[stone rune]

Ya thats how it is now normal mode enemies are swords now hf

[solemn flame]

master challenges isn’t a thing

[weary jewel]

question did they remove exotic class item attunement?

[charred yacht]

and get like a brick every other shot if ur killing enough ads

[fleet zodiac]

i threw a 200 grenade stat touch of flame fusion next to a red bar goblin and it didnt die

[dapper ether]

T5 loot should be the same as getting 3 perks in columns 3 & 4 type rarity, sounds like a better idea. Ex: timelost VOG weapons

[lofty fjord]

No like if you do the challenges for the encounter on master, then you get T5

[alpine garnet]

huge

[solemn flame]

challenges isn’t a thing anymore

[lofty fjord]

That's what it was before. You want the same thing we had before

[lofty fjord]

That's another thing

[dapper ether]

Yeah i mean the game had more players back then so probably and it was fun

[charred yacht]

I guess running like 3 special finder is not ideal tho lool

[alpine garnet]

not even pete parsons can justify these changes in good faith ngl

[lofty fjord]

Add challenges back. And make them harder than just, 'one player can't shoot more than 1 oracle'. Make it something like 'bows only'

[alpine garnet]

anyone defending is ragebaiter

[lofty fjord]

Bow's only witness would be fun

[solemn flame]

feats are prob that tbh we’ll see how it goes

[fleet zodiac]

this is bungies punishment for people complaining about dsc difficulty

[stone rune]

Legit I think for the first time ever noone in the community is happy with these changes it's loke the surge thing they did but 10 times worse

[solemn flame]

that was years ago

[fleet zodiac]

"oh dsc day 1 was too easy? check this out"

[lofty fjord]

It's not punishment if the players begged for it

[stone rune]

Someone said earlier solo caretaker this season rn is harder then master solo last season

[lofty fjord]

No one said dsc was easy. I mean it was but easy raid usually means RON

[fleet zodiac]

vow was probably perfect contest difficulty except caretaker ammo spawns and the obvious bugs

[dapper ether]

yeah all dungeon/raid dps is cooked now

[stone rune]

Gl on solo flawless vespers now

Everything is red bars

[lofty fjord]

Caretaker is not in a dungeon 💀

[fleet zodiac]

day 1 vog and crota were just kind of bad design

[alpine garnet]

solo flaw raneiks gon be fun now

[cerulean olive]

Evil final stand in question

[charred yacht]

forbearance is kinda goated guys ngl

[fleet zodiac]

having to clear the raid twice in 48 hours on contest and do challenges is a bit much imo

[solemn flame]

obviously?

[fleet zodiac]

i put off solo flawless vesper last season bc it was too buggy and difficult. its easier in eof right?

(clueless)

[stone rune]

[charred yacht]

dungeons are much harder now llooool

[fleet zodiac]

the servitor is probably like a 10 phase now LMAO

[stone rune]

OH GOD

[lofty fjord]

Knowing you so far, it would have been hard for you even during the craftening

[charred yacht]

bro is a master rage baiter

[dapper ether]

Yeah lowk ms autumn if you cant do normal mode desert perpetual you would have been cooked on vepsers

[charred yacht]

why is scavenger just giving +1 ammo on a brick dawgg

[stone rune]

But your free ammo..

[dapper ether]

We do to much damage with ammo, take it away, makes the game more difficult

[stone rune]

Cant wait for nothing the community is pissed about show up in the twab

[alpine garnet]

will bungie admit scaling is off or pretend for months ts is intended and ninja patch random tuesday?

[stone rune]

Nah this is legit gonna be the worst state of destiny well have

[pliant parrot]

is there a list of breakpoints for new stats?

[alpine garnet]

ig they don’t want to deal with enraged day one participants

[lofty fjord]

Vesper wasn't even hard tho? Only contest final boss was challenging because of the lightning

[dapper ether]

Ninja patch random tuesday + stealth nerf something else into the ground, RIP warlocks

[alpine garnet]

so they don’t say shii now

[lofty fjord]

If it wasn't intended they would have said something by now

[cerulean olive]

It's per point, with bonus stuff starting after 100

[fleet zodiac]

im kinda losing faith they arent going to do this

they didnt say anything at 24 hours

[alpine garnet]

but then day one raiders gon have them on pitchforks

[wind bronze]

kind of up there imo but it's still not y1 d2

[alpine garnet]

so they keep silent

[pliant parrot]

ya but certain abilities have break points at like 40 and 70

[lofty fjord]

No one cares about crybabies

[pliant parrot]

i was just wondering if there was a chart for the new stats

[lofty fjord]

Bungie only wants to retain the elitists

[dapper ether]

Bungie is not going to admit their mistake. CEO pays consulting agency millions of dollars to validate his decisions, employees wont question it with constructive criticism becuase theyll get paid the same to improve the game or not

[pliant parrot]

and yet assteckface still has a channel

[lofty fjord]

Sorry I don't speak crybaby someone pls translate

[fading lance]

do we know how many teams have cleared?

[pliant parrot]

nah pete spent the last 5 years maximising how much he could embezel, the made up Marathon as a way to get someone to buy bungie

and sony got jebaited

pete gonna come away rich asf

mmw

[alpine garnet]

horizon zero dawn collab is coming to save the game

[pliant parrot]

lol

i like how hz was an amazing first game

then they made a dogwater sequel

[cerulean olive]

There's something like 630 emblems that have been tracked with the API

[weary jewel]

Anyone know why i cant attune my exotic class item, ive done the campaign and ive done dual destiny and its just not there on my hunter, its on my warlock but no hunter

[pliant parrot]

probably because bungie doesnt know how to code

[dapper ether]

I live near some popular vintage car auctions, would love to bring up this to him if he pulls up post bungie

[alpine garnet]

they should ask ChatGPT to fix their code

[pliant parrot]

oh for the love of god, please report back it that happens

[lofty fjord]

That's 100+ teams cleared

[dapper ether]

Nah that would cost money

[pliant parrot]

nah it would just turn the game into Nazi

[weary jewel]

i cant do this hunter build cause all my class items keep dropping with verity i wanna cry

[lofty fjord]

If you are nothing without the class item you don't deserve it

[pliant parrot]

lol which hunter build

[alpine garnet]

on par with RON then

[echo aspen]

Probably inmost light and Cyracneeds

[dapper ether]

Its time to hang it up, they admitted all old content doesent work becuase their new code doesent support it, whjch means the new code sucks and is spaghetti code

[weary jewel]

that one

[echo aspen]

Or whatever that strand one is called

[charred yacht]

verity is supposed to be op broken on grapple rn

[weary jewel]

ive attuned on my hunter before so this is pmo lol

[lofty fjord]

Will need to check the ratio of players attempted vs cleared

[pliant parrot]

no you were right, i used that until i switched to the dirty Predater gun

[dapper ether]

"Contest mode has ended with 45,544 teams clearing Root of Nightmares"

[pliant parrot]

dirty stats

the hdr blowout on ths set is actually kinda hilarious

[lofty fjord]

How many attempted tho?

[pliant parrot]

my hunter is coming for you

lol

[lofty fjord]

I mean Lightfall was my favourite DLC. Yeah story was whatever but gameplay was peak. It's been downhill since echoes slop

[echo aspen]

God forbid I type a long message

[pliant parrot]

was taht the redwar message?

[stone ermine]

Newbie stats

[frozen sonnet]

is there a builds chat?

[dapper ether]

RoN was also highest with anywhere from 25-33%

[echo aspen]

No lol, just complaining about needing to loadout swap 5~ times in an encounter and that's why I didn't even bother trying contest. Along with it being bugged and what not

[pliant parrot]

well ya, considering ive got like 4 hours played on this build

[lofty fjord]

That's kinda low. Only one third could clear?

[trim wave]

you underestimate how many people load up into contest

[dapper ether]

Just means 1/3 of players joined and completed a raid instance

[echo aspen]

swapping loadouts 4 times during dps. Once for max weapon stat, again to max super stat whenever you got your super. Then again to LoW when T-lord runs out of ammo then again back to general loadout.

An then can't forget about swapping loadouts for ammo gen

[lofty fjord]

I don't think you understand what I'm asking

[trim wave]

excellent way to enforce multiple loadout swaps into gameplay bungo

[dapper ether]

The rest could have just loaded in for 5 seconds to see wassup, mb

[lofty fjord]

i wanna know how many ppl attempted RON and how many cleared. Now you said 45.5k teams cleared but how many attempted?

Because DP might have similar ratio

Which would make it easy as RON

[trim wave]

i feel like DP will have a completion rate of less than 10%, maybe even 5%

[charred yacht]

5% is wayyy too generous

[trim wave]

lightfall at its peak was 340kish players, could be up to 400k including consoles, so lets assume all of them jumped into ron day1

[echo aspen]

Yeah, especially with this one

[stable coyote]

theres only 105 teams completed right now

[trim wave]

that would put ron over a 10% completion rate for day1

[stable coyote]

and most are limiters and cheaters

[pliant parrot]

ok so i was basically "adopted" 2 cats, they were thrust upon me, 1 is 10 years old, female, fat, 8" long fur, hates everything. she will allow you to touch her only if I'm under the blanket in bed.

[dapper ether]

This might be what you're looking for. ~450k accounts started RoN contest and about 190k accounts completed ron contest

[smoky compass]

Anyone know what’s the warlock build for the new raid

[lofty fjord]

Yes

[trim wave]

105 cheating teams sounds right, for legitimate teams, someone said its around 25 i think?

[lofty fjord]

Titan

[vestal fjord]

Where do you get the numbers from?

[lofty fjord]

Emblem tracker

[echo aspen]

What is a cheating team?

[trim wave]

maybe braytech or something

[stable coyote]

i believe the raid report dev posted it

[smoky compass]

So that the meta what’s the build looking like

[dapper ether]

Based on number of owners of emblem

[pliant parrot]

the bonus cat, was a 6 week old kitten that just appeared in the chicken sedan, clearly dumped by someone. this cracked out little animal is apparently an absynian animal

[echo aspen]

You can have one warlock for a well

[stable coyote]

yeah something like that

[charred yacht]

less than 1k players clearing would be wild

[stable coyote]

jussed passed on info not something i have confirmed myself

[trim wave]

if 105 teams completed it but most were cheating, it will be safe to assume anyone using the emblem(and isnt a known streamer/player) is a cheater

[pliant parrot]

i'm just mad that i went from 2 super duper best lapcats, to having to just deal with 2 useless pieces of mobile furniture that puke and shed

[stable coyote]

i mean for the raid i dont expect it to be any more honestly

[lofty fjord]

Not that would be very unsafe to assume

[lofty fjord]

I don't think 1k even attempted

[trim wave]

there definitely arent over 100 fully legit teams who have beaten this

[stable coyote]

theres a lot of good playyers out there but I see the point all the top players are very will known in the space so you can make the assuption quickly

[trim wave]

id bet it wont break 100 before contest is over

[dapper ether]

Desert perpetual was obviously way too difficult of a contest if root of nightmares has 400+ times as many contest completions

[charred yacht]

idk why u think that

[alpine garnet]

there’s slightly above 100 teams

[trim wave]

not to mention that the absolute best of the best players took upwards of 16-20 hours to beat the raid, people of any less skill would suffer way more

[trim wave]

fully legitimate teams

[lofty fjord]

Because I was there when I was looking at the steamdb chart

[prime pollen]

is encore still the best way to level ur light

[lofty fjord]

No

[prime pollen]

what should i be doin to keep pushing my light lvl

[dapper ether]

Dont level up your light, just wait till new content to do anything, especially wait for conquests to come back out after being disabled

[edgy prawn]

Was gonna do my hunter’s campaign today then do the raid 3x but my wifi isn’t working ffs

[echo aspen]

You can do the campaign on a second and third character and that will really bump it up

If you haven't already

[unborn ledge]

Why is it even disabled

[lofty fjord]

Too easy

[vestal fjord]

Afaik the modifiers weren't working or smth

[charred yacht]

edz is just playing the leviathan music did it always do that lool

[tawdry perch]

whats the best roll for graviton spike ?

[vestal fjord]

When you want to test something on the edz dreg and the boss music starts playing:

[cerulean olive]

I know some very good players that are still struggling

[charred yacht]

exactly

[blissful scaffold]

no it not supposed to do that

edz play EDZ Ambient music on repeat

[unborn ledge]

though some tracks are similar

what's the odd one out triumph?

[blissful scaffold]

@unborn ledgeyo, i just did a few of Legend Story mission

and i must says, Legend isnt as rough as TFS legend before

[robust hawk]

bro I just need 20 levels :C dont tell me not to do encore anymore :C

[vapid salmon]

so idc about contest mode but is the new raid on normal gonna be near that hard

[trim wave]

allegedly its harder than a normal raid, but much easier than contest

[unborn ledge]

yeah cuz now there's 2 more difficulties to play after you complete it

[blissful scaffold]

WHAT

https://tenor.com/view/dk-nintendo-donkey-kong-gif-23203423

[vapid salmon]

cool might be the first raid i get done cause that armor looks nasty

[blissful scaffold]

the mode for pinnacle ops?

[trim wave]

im waiting to see if any of the weapons are useful

seeing a strand sniper, rocket, and a stasis AR did a lot of damage to my hope for good loot

theres an arc 900 rpm smg, i really hope its decent

[unborn ledge]

crossbow though

and the origin trait seems bonkers

[blissful scaffold]

Raid armor is tier 1 for some reason?

[echo aspen]

Raid gear isn't even pinnacle gear

[trim wave]

that origin trait probably wont be enough to make a poorly rolled weapon good

[vapid salmon]

that smg looked good but the new strand one is real nice even with out the best pesrks

[trim wave]

its great for an origin trait, sure

[vapid salmon]

*perks

[wanton halo]

you upgrade it by doing clears with challenges

[unborn ledge]

oh hey a new archetype

[solemn flame]

after u get 5 clears it’s T2 atleast and idk after tht

[blissful scaffold]

oh i see

[unborn ledge]

upgrade drops permanently?

[echo aspen]

That's neat

[alpine garnet]

huge! new wep to farm taniks

[vapid salmon]

also is skullfort really that good on arc titan?

[solemn flame]

opposite

[charred yacht]

What happens in the new raid if you do the final boss encounter first anyone know

[solemn flame]

ive heard it’s a instant mission complete

[trim wave]

is that even possible?

[solemn flame]

yeah

[vapid salmon]

the vex swarm you and make you there new god

LMao

[charred yacht]

Could u just equip the feats and then just do only final boss lol?

[solemn flame]

might be tech

[blissful scaffold]

@charred yachthave you master the new raid yet? Sherpa-master?

[trim wave]

bet bungie would fix that real quick

[charred yacht]

Yea i know all the mechanics

U kinda need good players

People who cant do mechanics are ngmi

[solemn flame]

I heard lfging gets you good players

[vapid salmon]

how about one bad player and the rest good lol?

[charred yacht]

Right now

[charred yacht]

Some encounters one bad player makes it rough

[solemn flame]

which ones

[vapid salmon]

oof imma have to step up my game

[trim wave]

just become a good player

[charred yacht]

Hydra and hobgoblin

[tired valley]

whats the best dps for warlock

[charred yacht]

Mostly the dps on hydra really needs people to pay attention

[solemn flame]

as long as they can dunk it’s okay and hydra has 2 add clears I reckon it won’t be too bad

[vapid salmon]

well i did just make a t crash bolt charge titan so that might make up for it

[charred yacht]

I have no idea bro, part of me wants to say u should use starfire + tlord but i think warlock just kinda sucks

[olive ermine]

Does anyone know the max stat combos you can get w t5 armour?

[wanton halo]

yes

[olive ermine]

It seems pretty hard to reach 200 in a stat without fonts

[charred yacht]

Since u can just do the final boss from fresh u could probably trio the raid rn

[charred yacht]

Its 30, 25, 20

[olive ermine]

Without any mods

[charred yacht]

Ya

[olive ermine]

and exotics?

[light bone]

Fonts are 20 30 50?

[charred yacht]

Exotics cant get tier 5

[olive ermine]

I know

[trim wave]

fonts cap at 40

[olive ermine]

But do they have a sumilar distribution

[olive ermine]

No they dont they cap at 50

[charred yacht]

Font is 20 40 50

[wind bronze]

that's the veist shotgun for armsday right

[trim wave]

bungie just said they reduced the font cap didnt they?

[charred yacht]

Exotics are like 30 20 12 or something

[trim wave]

specifically because fonts were much more beneficial now that before

[placid void]

Chat what's a font

[olive ermine]

Okay perfect

[charred yacht]

The mods that boost ur stats

[wind bronze]

armor mod that boosts a stat for a brief time on orb pickup

[placid void]

Ahhhh ty

[vapid salmon]

stat boost that require armor charges i do believe

[wind bronze]

surge mods for your stats instead of your elements basically

[placid void]

My triple mobi 🔥

[charred yacht]

🔥

[blissful scaffold]

So Weapont Font vs Elemental Surge. Which is more important?

[charred yacht]

Surge

[placid void]

Loadout swap

[charred yacht]

Oh i guess u can do that

[placid void]

It's tech 🔥

[blissful scaffold]

but weapon dictates your damage too @charred yacht

[placid void]

Sooo have 200 wep and surge on dps

[wind bronze]

it does but you can also still reach 200 weapons without the need of font mods

[placid void]

Run wtv before

[charred yacht]

I saw players doing it u can just swap between both and armor charge remembers it?

Or something idk

[wind bronze]

unless i'm mistaken and you actually do need weapon font to reach 200

[charred yacht]

You dont

[olive ermine]

No you can get 200/120/92

[charred yacht]

5 pieces of 30 weapon armor and five +10 weapon mods

[olive ermine]

W perfect armour

[blissful scaffold]

@charred yacht need guidance on this

[trim wave]

this would also leave the other 3 stats at 0, meaning you may as well never use them

[olive ermine]

So you need 1 weapon loadout w 200 as the primary stat so you can have surges, 1 200 super loadout, and then like a 200 grenade/120 weapon for neutral game

[trim wave]

but that is the point

[charred yacht]

Max weapons for more ammo idk (the game sucks)

[olive ermine]

No because masterworking gives you +5 in everything outside the three main stats the armour rolls w

[pliant parrot]

im trying

[frigid magnet]

delete destiny ‼️

[trim wave]

so t20 minimum

[olive ermine]

At least at t5 its fixed distribution

So it rly wont be bad to farm

[pliant parrot]

at t5, lol

[left blaze]

does anyone know exotics that slap as hard as the bugged scout

[charred yacht]

Just get to a morbillion power 😎

[pliant parrot]

is it morbin time?

[charred yacht]

There are none

Gl on mythic lol

[frigid magnet]

morbin time 🤩

[olive ermine]

You just have to get to t5 once to farm it and then theres no stress

Idk what the t5 guns change

[wind bronze]

i don't mind having different armors for different things but the whole archetypes shtick sucks right now for me since there's no melee and weapons one

[left blaze]

just wanted some variety from the scout but oh well

[charred yacht]

The scout is alr fixed i heard

[trim wave]

people who farmed mobility/strength armor before eof are eatin good

[left blaze]

i dont think so

[wind bronze]

very much so

[pliant parrot]

lol my only goal for this season is to get all the season rewards, so hit 100

[olive ermine]

Seasonal rewards are always lame regrinding armour to make good builds is more fun imo

[pliant parrot]

ya i just want the rank 100 stuff

[left blaze]

does anyone know the best strange coins farm is it still devils lair?

[olive ermine]

Do you get ash and iron w the base version of EoF?

[pliant parrot]

nah devils is broken, because bungie hates fun

[vapid salmon]

ive come across armor that didnt have and archtype (had weapon and super) it looks to be just rng though

[cerulean olive]

Replicate the bugginess of contest and get full auto bastion

[pliant parrot]

no you have to buy year of

[left blaze]

that would be crazy

[left blaze]

any alternatives?

[pliant parrot]

i'm kind of annoyed that i only got 2 xurcoins per A run i did

[left blaze]

i got 3 with xurs favor

[pliant parrot]

honestly just play the game, dont grind, do +green stuff

[sour ermine]

All enhanced perks (column 1-2-3-4 and origin trait), triple perks in column 3-4, enhanced weapon mods and custom appearance

[left blaze]

okay

[cerulean olive]

It also lets you reload at max and shows you get 5 shots but updates properly to 3 shots after you shoot

[steep sapphire]

Curiously I wanted to ask is it possible to get the new comp weapon on higher tiers? I got a pretty decent roll of the weapon but idk if it can get better.

[floral bridge]

Guys, how do you increase a Warlock well's resistance? I have seen that Crota one shots it now, lol.

[steep sapphire]

Also, I think I may have found a glitch with it, Its a precision frame but its reloading and RECOILING with adaptive frame animations.

[pliant parrot]

i havent even finished the story, cause the metroid ball is just stupid

[trim wave]

maybe class? you might not be able to improve it now

[floral bridge]

Yo, funny to see you here, man. You usually hang out in the Italian server.

[cerulean olive]

You don't lol

[blissful scaffold]

Xur sells this and it is tier 2. Should i grab it over my Tier 1 ?

[pliant parrot]

campaign, that was the word i was trying to remember

[floral bridge]

So well of radiance gets simply one shotted now? That ain't fair. At least two hits!

[left blaze]

is it buggy for u?

[sour ermine]

Eh not really, it's easier to see me there cuz no one talks in there

[pliant parrot]

buy any xur exotic that is 63 because that is max it can roll now

[trim wave]

the well can get shat on in DP contest too

[pliant parrot]

and there is a 63 at xur right now

[trim wave]

one stray wyvern spread kills it

[pliant parrot]

no i just hate the matterball

[floral bridge]

So, that's just it? Or Bungie plans to change it?

[blissful scaffold]

hunter Dragon Shadow

[pliant parrot]

ya that one

[floral bridge]

Cool, cool. Well, we've gotta speak English here. Can't use our Romance language.

[blissful scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/italian-hand-peter-griffin-parody-family-guy-gif-14887078867634565238

[trim wave]

its probably one of the very many oversights that bungie made

[blissful scaffold]

Requista in Pace

[floral bridge]

They fired the QA team for more Pete's cars, right?

[cerulean olive]

Just don't use it on crota

Green man gaming for that entire raid

[floral bridge]

And what can we use not to die when he slams the sword?

[cerulean olive]

The banner of war and into the fray aspects

[floral bridge]

Mmmh, I'll look into it.

[prime badge]

Am I the only one that dont feel stronger in any activities even if I am almost 300 light level? Kinda demoralizing to grind when it does not make you feel stronger

[trim wave]

that or you have to pick a safe spot to dps

[blissful scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-briga-italiano-peter-griffin-gif-18271904796003623964

[trim wave]

the funny thing is you actually feel much weaker in the higher difficulties lol

[cerulean olive]

Just grapple the boss bro 😸

[left blaze]

in most activities like mythic kepler they made us always like 50 power under thats why it feels so bad i think

[floral bridge]

I meant "I'll see if it works and is efficient."

[pliant parrot]

nah they turbo nuked the fun in the game

[sour ermine]

The nefarious sword block:

[cerulean olive]

I mean it does work and is by far the most optimal

[floral bridge]

Lost seconds for damage, though.

[prime badge]

I dont get it they wanted arpg feeling such as diablo and poe. I remember getting stronger in the end game not weaker💀

[sour ermine]

Less DPS is better than dead dps

[pliant parrot]

nobody gets it

[floral bridge]

Ahhh, if only we had the resurrect ability from D1 for Warlocks.

[blissful scaffold]

idk Xur sell Crucible weapon @

[prime badge]

Yeah mythic kepler feels like a waste of time almost an hour to finish a mission where it is not guaranteed loot

[pliant parrot]

they basically did everything they could to suck the fun out of the game while maximizing microtransactions

[cerulean olive]

Sword on crota is 😴

Tbh Idk why you were using well every since song came out

[pliant parrot]

this is my last bungo purchase

[cerulean olive]

That + attrition orbs sword

on normal you don't even need song

[prime badge]

Has to be tuning issues I hope the weekly reset comes with some changes. After third iteration gets fixed we will deal 0 dmg it feels like with primaries

[molten condor]

😼