💬destiny-chat

[alpine spear]

As yes geometry

[fleet zodiac]

alright looks like i was right, they way overshot the difficulty

[fossil flare]

dude the CB and Evan fake hype is so depressing dawg

[fleet zodiac]

idk what they were thinking with these damage numbers, i refuse to believe playtesters cleared this

[jagged sage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1038521099312447530/1393249688680923146/ezgif-6eedec0177806b.gif

[modest hound]

Can’t do anything else without being able to see final encounter

[alpine salmon]

me and my entire fireteam got kicked....

[fringe cloud]

probably not, it's meant to challenge the top groups

[alpine spear]

When's the last time you saw CB smile

[hallow wasp]

we are the playtesters dawg

[fringe cloud]

none of which work for bungie

[shut canyon]

raid teams are getting through it I feel like that's all that matters tbh

[azure girder]

Is the damage of the raid just completely wrongly coded by bungie or am I bad

[chilly steppe]

☺️

[modest hound]

WE play test the game for bungie

[fossil flare]

Its just really lame man, not dissing them at all. I dont blame them for the boring blurred mess

[fleet zodiac]

i literally dont even know how you would clear these bosses without multiple swaps

[ruby cipher]

10 hours and not one DPS phase. So how you all doing?

[fleet zodiac]

yeah like a handful of teams

[fringe cloud]

as long as at least 1 team clears it, it's not too hard

[cerulean olive]

insanely tight damage phases

[modest hound]

I feel bad for them man they even flew out to bungie hq for this

[fringe cloud]

also why would you balance it without accounting for swaps?

[fossil flare]

find a new team man, thats genuinely insane

[chilly steppe]

I’m doing ok. Especially since I’m not trying to beat a raid on crazy setting lol

[lapis grail]

Is the swap modifier on or not?

[fleet zodiac]

no

[true pecan]

Raid is ass

[lapis grail]

Rather it be off yeah

[fringe cloud]

10 hours is like a full day 1 lfg clear

[shut canyon]

this is meant to be super difficult, I don't want to make opinions because I'm absolutely not the target audience for contest raids but so long as literally anybody succeeds I feel like that's viewed as a success by bungie

[modest hound]

TYRAXE CLEAR THIRD

[fossil flare]

Its not aweful, but id say its mid

[lapis grail]

Cuz with the swap modifier on that would SUCK

[sonic berry]

lf1 321 power looking to farm kell fall on repeat /join Lunarvaporz#2815 or dm me

[modest hound]

Please don’t block please please please

[narrow shoal]

my lfg team gave up after seeing the lengths salt went through to do mid damage while we couldnt even get to a dps phase after 3 hours 🥀

[fleet zodiac]

i literally dont even know what youre supposed to do against Agraios, i think the only thing people have cleared with that ive seen is thunderlord

[alpine spear]

Is it even a map if you have to turn into that fuzzball to traverse

[chilly steppe]

That could work. And entirety of Europa

[fossil flare]

Lfg on this raid will geniunely make you seek a therapist

[fleet zodiac]

these dps phases are tighter than vow was

and with less ammo economy

[sonic berry]

lf1 321 power looking to farm kell fall on repeat /join Lunarvaporz#2815 or dm me

[fossil flare]

But vow was fun atleast :D

[mint crypt]

race not done yet gg booty tradition

[lapis grail]

10 hours soon

[chilly steppe]

There are long ways around the dark matter ball

[fossil flare]

15 mins i think

[lapis grail]

yep

[true pecan]

Vow was the best imo

[fleet zodiac]

i feel like if you have to hotswap multiple times during dps with shoot to loot mayeb the dps phases are too tight

[alpine spear]

Will never forget Rhulk kicking me to the stratosphere during dps.

[solemn flame]

you have the raid for years surely u can be patient for 1 day

[charred yacht]

idk the rallies just keep bugging and the slow bug keeps happening and tlord sometimes just breaks idk

[hallow wasp]

huge

[desert remnant]

How am I supposed to do the Conquests? The Devil's Lair one is the only one available for me and it says my Guardian Rank is too low... but to advance Guardian Rank I have to do a Conquest 😬

[pulsar wolf]

has anyone cleared yet

[ruby cipher]

Some irl friends. We're trying but Epoptes is feelin untouchable

[fossil flare]

You know what, i bet the end will be super cool, but if not this will be a huge blow to day-1 raiding

[fringe cloud]

if people can clear them, they aren't too tight

[jagged sage]

I think people care too much about the race

[solemn flame]

idk how they messed up rallies thts kinda embarrassing

[hallow wasp]

they always do

[fossil flare]

yeah, thats rough, no hate but you might not be ready for day-1 just yet :/

[hallow wasp]

but what else is there to care about tbh

[pulsar wolf]

WF happen yet?

[shut canyon]

no it won't lol what

[jagged sage]

Another game

[ruby cipher]

I have 4 contest clears

[hallow wasp]

preach

[charred yacht]

kinda real tbh

[chilly steppe]

Life, your pet, your significant other, plenty of things

[fossil flare]

might not be you

[fringe cloud]

you are that guy

[shut canyon]

people don't day 1 raid for the spectacle they day 1 raid for the challenge in a game they love

[charred yacht]

bungie just keeps making these contests harder and harder idk

[fossil flare]

Fair enough

[fringe cloud]

unless your contest clears are like DSC, eater, RoN and WotM

[lapis grail]

Some might take so long and clear an encounter or two, then legitimately take a big break.

[modest hound]

Alr please do not block

[fringe cloud]

then ur not that guy

[narrow shoal]

i think the hp scaling is bugged, beating agrios in 3 phases is damn near impossible

[ruby furnace]

Not to mention this is at worst 2-4 days out of the whole year lol

[hallow wasp]

homeboy I'm in a bus since 17:15 yesterday from Barcelona to Lisbon iont got a lot of options

[inner pond]

Who up edging they fate rn

[hallow wasp]

I grinded bloons that's where we're at

[fleet zodiac]

the race is whatever but when theres basically no hope of clearing day 1 then people stop caring

[ruby furnace]

(Contest raid and now dungeons)

[ruby cipher]

DSC, Vow, RoN, SD

[chilly steppe]

Any streaming service of your choice, an ebook, music.

[fringe cloud]

L,W,L,? what is sd

[modest hound]

Sunny d

[ruby cipher]

Sundered

[fossil flare]

That final boss is sick, i cannot lie

[hallow wasp]

music and bloons

[pulsar wolf]

has anyone finished?

[fringe cloud]

that's not a raid

[chilly steppe]

What’s bloons?

[stark relic]

nope

[solemn flame]

sds just cooked in general bc ps issues

[pure loom]

I don’t think so

[fringe cloud]

no that's next expansion

[hallow wasp]

Bloons tower defence 6, peak game

[chilly steppe]

Ah

[fleet zodiac]

its just like baby easy mechanics but insane dps checks which are kind of the worst day 1s imo

[narrow shoal]

to be fair he said contest not necessarily contest raids

[fringe cloud]

it was implied

[modest hound]

Omg THEYRE NOT BLOCKING www

[alpine spear]

Block deez nutz

[fossil flare]

mane, the OG day-1 raiders fell off so hard haha

[pure loom]

Damn cross hasn’t beaten one encounter yet

[fringe cloud]

gothalion probably went to bed like 3 hours ago

[tired oriole]

yeah cuz u dont need to farm for 40 hours a day

[alpine spear]

Cross and Gladd my goats

[shell haven]

I have Velocity's Tomb Chekpoint if anyone needs it

[solemn flame]

even the wish wall farmers beat 1

[tired oriole]

have u

[fossil flare]

?

[ruby furnace]

Is it because they are about to finish

[chilly steppe]

Trashtechcross

[modest hound]

Meant Tyraxe

[fossil flare]

Like clear farmers?

[fringe cloud]

based we hate aztecross

[ruby furnace]

Right same question tho

[pure loom]

Nah. Didn’t even get the xpac

[alpine spear]

Bboooo

[modest hound]

They just got to the boss

[misty dawn]

friendly fire!! 🚨

[ruby furnace]

Oh so principle

[floral shadow]

do bonus drops give higher level gear?

[ruby furnace]

Out of principle* based

[stiff star]

Has anyone beat the raid yet?

[fossil flare]

Tbf, they do have the best skillset in the game. they might be unemployed, but they are the best players we have.

[narrow shoal]

tfw day 1 last wish player still on 1st encounter 🥀

[misty dawn]

what does this mean Lemark

[solemn flame]

what clear farmers?

[stiff star]

It seems the raid is still unbeaten and it's been 11 hours, is that accurate?

[alpine spear]

Not datto

[tired oriole]

its the strat

[fringe cloud]

day 1 last wish players are like senior citizens now

[storm surge]

I’m looking for a raid team

[tired oriole]

nice

[narrow shoal]

why is your leg yellow did you piss on it?

[stiff star]

Last wish round 2

[fossil flare]

the very few that dont straight uo just hard-cheat

[fringe cloud]

we got ppl blocking screens, using cheater swords, loadout swapping

[tired oriole]

yellow legg

[alpine spear]

LMAO

[tired oriole]

????

[fossil flare]

cheater swords?

[misty dawn]

why are you calling chinek in big lfg

[alpine spear]

Yea cheater swords

[fringe cloud]

eager edge??

[chilly steppe]

Define cheater swords

[narrow shoal]

eager edge is cheating 😡

[tired oriole]

who is chinek

[chilly steppe]

How? Lmao

[fossil flare]

dad gamer take

[fringe cloud]

you guys don't think that flying across the screen at 20x normal speed is cheating?

[solemn flame]

@cursive hemlock used to t crash the overlord in se for 800 clears so he’s cracked

[misty dawn]

Lemark with a C

[tired oriole]

🎣

[tired oriole]

Cemark

[fringe cloud]

back in the day we went normal speed

[copper gate]

But everyone can do it

[alpine spear]

Boooo eager edge downplays bungie's HARD WORK on their WORK THAT THEY SLAVED OVER FOR YOU TO TRAVERSE

[misty dawn]

CEmark???? 😮

[pure loom]

Lcmark

[fossil flare]

gotta make sure they know, brick by brick

[gritty jacinth]

why when i run encore with the exact same modifiers, i get different reward tiers sometimes

[fringe cloud]

ah yes, if everyone can do it it's not cheating

[tired oriole]

lecark

[misty dawn]

lamerk

[tired oriole]

No c

[fringe cloud]

like honestly let's at least use 2 digits of iq

[fossil flare]

dodging midair is def cheating

[tired oriole]

GET OUT OF MY SKIN GET OUT OF MY SKIN

[chilly steppe]

Eager edge doesn’t do that on its own. Normal eager edge isn’t cheating. But skating, that’s a whole different can of worms. Not cheating but annoying.

[misty dawn]

c’lamerk

[storm surge]

I’m trying to do contest mode anyone’s doing anything

[fossil flare]

thats a exploit obv

[alpine spear]

Because bungie broke on Thursday lol you didn't know?

[ruby furnace]

Iq is made of letters not numbers tho

[solemn flame]

@fringe cloud 🍔

[narrow shoal]

why hasnt bungie removed skating from the game?

[misty dawn]

all these cheaters n*tlimiting their skates smfh

[fringe cloud]

no one uses eager edge for anything but skating so may as well be

[fossil flare]

its big shatter dive

[chilly steppe]

Idk. I’m not Bungie

[narrow shoal]

if its so bad why was if left in the game for years

[solemn flame]

yeah like holy imagine

[fringe cloud]

ppl like to speedrun

[daring coral]

Bungie cooked the endgame

[fossil flare]

yeah... I hate those guys

[fringe cloud]

also i need to "feel powerful"

[carmine carbon]

sword skating is fine but wellskating and shatterskating is something else

[misty dawn]

i’ll let you

[fossil flare]

please patch worldline.

[alpine spear]

Speedrunner skipping all of BUNGIES HARD WORK THEY SLAVED OVER FOR YPU TO ENJOY, JUST TO SKATE THROUGH IT IN 2MINS

[solemn flame]

guys it’s 3 buttons to shatter skate what is the issue

[narrow shoal]

maybe bungie should add more movement techs in the game so ppl dont feel the need to spam eager edge swords everywhere 🤔

[lapis grail]

I just did a doubles match, and my teammate just sat in a corner. Unbelievable.

[misty dawn]

i heard they use 1… 😮

[carmine carbon]

ehhh it breaks the game?

[steel garnet]

I just woke up, how hard is the raid? harder than current standard modes in terms of pure dmg taken/dealt, or on the same level?

[chilly steppe]

Not everyone can do it. And not everyone wants to rush thru stuff

[lapis grail]

The map was rusted lands.

[ruby cipher]

SE levels of hard imo

[thorny wave]

its a full on descent into madness

[stark relic]

mechanics seem fairly good, damage check is something else though

[chilly steppe]

People shouldn’t be forced to rush because one random in MM skates thru an activity

[fossil flare]

GUYS IF I CANT DO IT THEN IT SHOULDENT BE PART OF THE EXPANSION!! :(((

[steel garnet]

the current standard mode SE?

[fringe cloud]

ok we don't have to fully soy out here

[alpine spear]

I wanna do my bounties in strikes in peace, not some skating bozo pulling me to boss

[solemn flame]

that is there problem because if they js watch a 3 minute guide they can do it and if people can skate in activity’s and still stay alive the activity is easy

[fringe cloud]

senior citizen alert

[pure loom]

Would have any of the things bungie restricted pre-raid helped at all?

[carmine carbon]

Good thing you can do your bounty solo now!

[steel garnet]

well yeah damage check is madness in all standard dungs and raids currently

[narrow shoal]

couldnt you say the same thing if someone was using a meta loadout while the rest are using random bs loadout? would the person using a meta loadout be ruining the experience of the other players? be serious rn

[chilly steppe]

You miss the point.

[drifting estuary]

What's the appeal of an exotic mission besides the exotic? Why do they keep bringing these back? I hate having to look up a guide to do a mission, because it gives me absolutely no hints besides "do something"

[solemn flame]

okay what’s the point then

[fossil flare]

tell me you have NEVER skated before without telling me

[fringe cloud]

don't ask that, ppl unironically think that meta loadouts ruin games and that games would be better without metas

[chilly steppe]

Scroll back up I already said it pretty clearly

[pure loom]

I found discovering them in game and figuring it out was the appeal to me. Vs them being advertised

[cursive pelican]

what ate we yapping?

[solemn flame]

get in my lobby and hit statue skip 0-1 lol

[cursive pelican]

Cheaters?

[narrow shoal]

umm actually skating is impossible without using macros (my wifes boyfriend said so) so skating = cheating = automatic ban

[fleet zodiac]

we are in the trenches of ammo economy

[alpine spear]

You skipping traversal mechanics that BUNGIE SLAVED HARF TO WORK FOR FOR YOU TO ENJOY

[cursive pelican]

Imagine cheating

[fossil flare]

the truth tbh

[tired oriole]

doing wyvern now can someone explain it to me

[solemn flame]

go to raid secrets

[tired oriole]

shut up

[fossil flare]

🗣️

[fringe cloud]

every time you skate past content everyone who worked on it has a 1% chance of being laid off

[misty dawn]

plumbers v unemployed

[alpine spear]

Shoot the bad guys

[tired oriole]

sorry!! 😞

[fossil flare]

why i speedrun proph tbh

[cursive pelican]

massive day for the unemployed

[chilly steppe]

Load outs and damage are one thing, because you’re not rushing thru stuff missing kills someone is going after for challenges or bounties etc.

[tired oriole]

@nezha

[solemn flame]

surely we’re ragebaiting

[misty dawn]

@gray widget

[carmine carbon]

tbf I've had people in random strike MM ask me if I was hacking because I was wellskating lmao so those people def exists

[lapis grail]

I don’t go to work on Saturday but I have chores

[fossil flare]

nope. im just hoping that i can do my part

[fringe cloud]

bro speerun a worse dungeon i don't want those ppl gone

[drifting estuary]

That sort was cool, now they're just there.

[fringe cloud]

speedrun like WR or pit

[pure loom]

Agreed

[fossil flare]

also the truth

[alpine spear]

Can't believe these people are still up and not getting ready for bed, to be up and early for Sunday Church

[solemn flame]

yeah thts why shattersksting is totally a problem and needs a patch

[fossil flare]

its how my gambling addiction is sasiated

[carmine hull]

Lol

[fossil flare]

do you want me to gamble away my wife and kids collage fund?>????

[solemn flame]

yea every time I 3 orb I take a shot

[fringe cloud]

getting ready for my sunday chikfila run

[fossil flare]

stop supporting gambling dude, thats messed up

[hallow wasp]

wellskate being warlocks one last claim to fame that they cling onto by

[carmine carbon]

too bad shatterskaing is better

[fossil flare]

what could he have been cooking up @narrow shoal

[misty dawn]

@narrow shoal don’t do that

[hallow wasp]

I know

[olive canyon]

Needlestorm skating >

[ivory bridge]

why are there even any armor drops in bonus focus loot? like is it even good armor? dont like all activities give armor??

[fossil flare]

this guy doesent know about slipstream strand skate

[pliant spear]

Someone know how to get the strangelet at stellar sink ?

[solemn flame]

to farm tht armor?

[narrow shoal]

i do what i want 😛

[fringe cloud]

why is there armour dropping in my item dropping game 😡

[fossil flare]

thats a wierd way to spell fun...

[alpine spear]

The ammo counter on the bottom is just for placebo effect LOL

[pure loom]

What’re you guys gonna do from after the raids over to the next content drop

[ivory bridge]

ewll yeah but the specific boots just dont make sense if youre gonna get those same boots from anyt other activity

[solemn flame]

but u don’t

[patent sinew]

Straight jacking it

[fossil flare]

what car?

[ivory bridge]

yeah you do

[chilly steppe]

Church? Lmao. I’ve never gone to church. Don’t intend to

[patent sinew]

...car?

[fringe cloud]

the one from cars

the blue one

[wet crown]

This raid is so bad it’s killed the contest scene

[carmine carbon]

You should try at least once tbh

[abstract charm]

i like my church community, i get invited for free meals all the time

[chilly steppe]

This car

[wet crown]

Most Se clear players have given up

[fossil flare]

I HOPE NOT TF

[narrow shoal]

this server wont let me rant for 3 sentences literally 1984 🥀

[carmine carbon]

Church can be a good place to chill

[wet crown]

Genuinely horrible

[solemn flame]

yeah -10 cooked it

[chilly steppe]

No. I’m doing just fine without religion in my life. Thank you.

[patent sinew]

Blocking the fvcking screen while streaming is the one that is Killin raid racing

[solemn flame]

ammo drought too

[wet crown]

Wdym -10 ?

[fringe cloud]

asking a discord mod to go to church is like asking ur vampire friend to go to the beach

[modest hound]

38 minutes from being top 3 longest races

[misty dawn]

radioMonkey10

[fossil flare]

GUYS WHY CANT I BEAT A RAID :((((( ITS NOT A SKILL ISSUE> I PAID FOTR THEW DLC I WANNA BEAT TI!!!

[pure loom]

-10 weenie points

[gray widget]

you speedrun proph?

[carmine carbon]

Dont need to be a religious person to go to church lol. I'm not religious and I love churches. Its peaceful smells good and you get a sense of peace whenever you go into one

[narrow shoal]

regular raids and dungeons are capped at -10 power now

[gray widget]

message @misty dawn he likes to

[solemn flame]

-10 power 4 everything like you can’t 1 phase bosses like herald unless hand

[fossil flare]

no. please dont look no i dont.

[chilly steppe]

It’s my car 😦

[wet crown]

Have you seen the health on bosses 😭😭😭

[pure loom]

lol

[misty dawn]

@lime nymph

[chilly steppe]

No thank you.

[fossil flare]

the contex for the joke made it sound a lil sus

[gray widget]

can you teach me a thing or two

[chilly steppe]

I missed it lol.

[misty dawn]

N????

[solemn flame]

w vs

[fossil flare]

absoluetly not they cooked all fun out of that dungeon with the new changes.

[misty dawn]

have u played it

[narrow shoal]

rip speedruns

[patent sinew]

What did they change what?

[fossil flare]

its not playable rn. its bugged with a softlock

[gray widget]

noob

[fossil flare]

-10

[chilly steppe]

I sometimes fat finger extra letters after sentences.

[cursive pelican]

imagine speedrunning

[patent sinew]

Ohh ok

[misty dawn]

bel it’s soft locked

[gray widget]

@vital gate proph speedrunner

[fossil flare]

yeah thats fair

[pure loom]

poirier gonna lose

[wet crown]

So d2 is dead now right

[vapid dagger]

anyone know how to do the lord of wolves bug

[fossil flare]

Im super bad, my best time is a 7:15

[solemn flame]

what bug

[carmine carbon]

not quite but its about to be

[fringe cloud]

7 hours to clear proph???? bro

[vapid dagger]

idk apparently ur able to get max ammo out of thin air

[gray widget]

we cant be real

[fossil flare]

almost 6 so not horrible

[wet crown]

Another Se raid bad sandbox changes no content and “new seasonal content” is old stuff

[misty dawn]

i last 2:30

[gentle karma]

Hello, is it possible to grind any raid since they got rid of featured stuff or are we just screwed for grinding raid drops

[fringe cloud]

most sane speedrunner

[wet crown]

GG D2 we didn’t deserve Joe Blackburn

[brisk spruce]

what weapon to use to kill EPOPTES ? is there any other anarch Tloard

[solemn flame]

the mechanics are so much easier then se

[carmine carbon]

worst than that there no seasonal content this time lmao

[gray widget]

u have an 8:15

[ruby furnace]

Oh good more d2 is dead hold on my turn

[fossil flare]

telesto and thin precipise

[quartz valve]

What team is the farthest ahead rn???

[fringe cloud]

ahead of what

[misty dawn]

that’s a 9-5 right there

[wet crown]

Right but the boss health is so unreasonable

[modest hound]

Tyraxe

[fossil flare]

Yeah, on raid report. you genuinely just have to take my word on this. but if you wanna count my best time being 8:15 thats a-okay with me

[solemn flame]

hmm no

[tired oriole]

can knot tell me how to skate with well of radiance

[carmine carbon]

That's contest

[wet crown]

R u delusional ?

[ruby furnace]

d2 is dead again
sheen this is the 15th time d2 is dead

[carmine carbon]

Normal wont be like that

[gray widget]

i believe you. I just dont like liars

[pure loom]

When in doubt make the bosses have too much hp, you do less dmg and ads can one shot you. The bungie way

[fossil flare]

its okay, you shouldent. theres proof to the contrary

[gray widget]

ok

[wet crown]

Adds are fine

[solemn flame]

it’s contest rn and I’m seeing guaranteed 3 phases

[narrow shoal]

fr blud couldnt even beat my sub 1hr solo flawless 🤣 just uninstall lil bro 🥀

[fringe cloud]

brother this is a game about numbers of course the difficulty is based on numbers

[carmine carbon]

To be fair every other times the statistics and player metrics were pointing to that being false but as of now the numbers back that statement up

[wet crown]

Most unreasonable damage checks in the franchise

[fringe cloud]

this is the only community that thinks that increasing numbers is lazy

[wet crown]

How many encounters have you beaten ?

[solemn flame]

1 atm

[ruby furnace]

Do you think that at the time people thought the metrics were accurate to their analysis of the game at that time

[fossil flare]

My solo flaw should be faster lowk. i think my fastest is like 40 mins

[fossil flare]

whats your fastest?

[ruby furnace]

Like earnestly not even calling anyone a grifter

[wet crown]

Hydra ?

[misty dawn]

who wants to run grasp of avarice? 😀

[solemn flame]

that’s 1 more then u atleast no wyvern

[fossil flare]

Whats your best time though, not your av

[carmine carbon]

A lot of people just say that without looking. I'm just saying that right now there are actual facts behind those statements not that everyone saying it actually look before talking

[gray widget]

mine dungeon report doesnt show a best time

[fringe cloud]

no week one on prophecy LLLLLL

[wet crown]

Wyv is 7/10 difficulty, everything else is 9/10 +

[ruby furnace]

Right and I am saying there are people who looked at the facts at that time when they previously claimed it’s dead and used the available facts to still support the claim

[fossil flare]

for real? do you know it by memory?

[gray widget]

5

[fossil flare]

Damn, good stuff. isnt that almost wr

[ruby furnace]

I get the claim of distinction

[carmine carbon]

Ah well I never seen those people. Usually they stop yapping pretty quickly after launch

[fringe cloud]

brother seek help

[ruby furnace]

Fair enough

[misty dawn]

prophecy with adolf hitler 😮

[fossil flare]

Sweet dude! you should go for WR you clearly could

[tired oriole]

🫣

[wicked gust]

805 clears for what most of the gear is mid

[gray widget]

im like 1 min off record. i wont be beating that

[stone ermine]

That’s your best

[solemn flame]

is it even runnable after eof

[wet crown]

What this supposed to mean

[tired oriole]

you dont know the method

[gray widget]

I dont play for the gear bro

[fossil flare]

With practice. tbh you are likely miles better than me

[tired oriole]

i have 200 still

[narrow shoal]

800 clears and only 18 sherps, you are selfish, should have spent that time helping other players get loot 😡 players like u make this game worse

[clear wigeon]

this cant be real 😭

[wicked gust]

oh ur one of those people that are on my 600 pound life i get it lol

[fossil flare]

hes gotta point

[misty dawn]

this is what a farm dodger would say

[sweet delta]

who hurt you

[gray widget]

im 600 pounds and still better at destiny than u

[fossil flare]

chair murderer speaking lmao

[pure loom]

Sheeesh

[fringe cloud]

double L

[solemn flame]

is prophecy fun to speedrun

[gray widget]

yes

[fossil flare]

very

[misty dawn]

no

[clear wigeon]

😂

[gray widget]

do u want to play proph when its fixed

[fossil flare]

❌

[fringe cloud]

would you rather be 600 pounds or good at destiny, tough one

[pure loom]

Neither

[misty dawn]

✅

[cursive pelican]

[fringe cloud]

gotta take one

[pale gazelle]

Praying for bungie to give dungeons armour perk effects 🙏

[fossil flare]

Maybe, but im washed. and honestly not very good. it took around 200ish failed runs to get my 7

[carmine carbon]

Pretty sure being good at destiny means that you are most likely 600 pound

[cursive pelican]

I feel eepy

[lapis grail]

Bro nooooo not my first one of this thing 😭

[wanton halo]

playing d1 over d2 lool

[stone ermine]

For him it’s both I guess

[gray widget]

idc too much about times for farms. we just play for fun. big chilling

[fossil flare]

my cube could be beat by a horshoe crab with a accesibility controller

[wanton halo]

this raid is zzz

[lapis grail]

Nothing wrong with that.

[fringe cloud]

ppl who are good at games don't waste time eating

[chilly steppe]

All the prophecy speedrun cheaters on dungeon report LB lmao

[fringe cloud]

and they have a poopbucket

[misty dawn]

cheaters 😂

[cursive pelican]

[fossil flare]

Yeah, honestly only wiped a few times. i tried my script panel for dps and i alr beat it

[cursive pelican]

[chilly steppe]

1 minute clears? Yeah cheaters

[fringe cloud]

this dude is obsessed with cheaters

[pale gazelle]

I’m obsessed with your mother

[misty dawn]

20 sec cube 10 sec skip ez

[gray widget]

i love prophecy

[wanton halo]

I dont think you do anymore

[fringe cloud]

brother you can have her

[clear wigeon]

i like how the ur making the randoms in here think cube skip is easy or something

[cursive pelican]

Liqwig

[fossil flare]

The op time is 4:40ish right? for the fastest possible known clear time

[fringe cloud]

as long as she's not talking to me

[misty dawn]

she does

[gray widget]

If i didnt love prophecy, I wouldnt play it stupid

[fossil flare]

Skip is P easy, its the inside thats hard

[wanton halo]

yeah no i dont think so

[gray widget]

record is around that yeah

[misty dawn]

yo

[fringe cloud]

good thing everyone else doesn't use that logic or there wouldn't be any d2 players

[gray widget]

cube skip is arguably easier than fast cube

[fossil flare]

record is 4:50 right? I thought projected was 4:40

[gray widget]

it prob was. i never kept up with it

[clear wigeon]

i prefer inside tbh

[carmine carbon]

People duck spamming in a pve mode is always funny to see

[clear wigeon]

havent ran for a long time tho

[fossil flare]

Thats what takes skill so yeah

[wanton halo]

you never skip in prophecy

[gray widget]

i have non oob, no exploit eternity record

[misty dawn]

🤔

[cursive pelican]

Oob

[gray widget]

cube skip dude! friggen bro

[wanton halo]

I use my sparrow

[fossil flare]

Non oob is better if you dont have a fast cube. skip is only useful with a good team

[gray widget]

yup

[thorny roost]

How do people push out so much damage with thunderlord? people hit 40k, meanwhile I only hit 16 K, what gives?!

[cursive pelican]

[fringe cloud]

no skip? ur telling me your ride all the way down on the orange carpet?

[narrow shoal]

you farmers are nowhere near my level.... this run is rta no oob no eager edge sword 10 power while blindfolded and taking it from the back

[gray widget]

and if your skipper can actually slip

[clear wigeon]

ur not good

[fossil flare]

No hate on bad cubers, its genuinely a massive skillgap. one ive never really gotten over

[misty dawn]

@tough sable don’t do that

[gray widget]

cube hard

[pure loom]

Loool

[carmine carbon]

barricades surges and weapon stats

[gray widget]

gotta know your W1 really well.

[cursive pelican]

how do you have 4 mins?

[gray widget]

me and my W1 go on dinner dates and have intercourse

[tough sable]

can we duo dp

[fossil flare]

Wait untill this guy hears about witherhoard breaching

[misty dawn]

you are not winky.

[thorny roost]

Wait does weapon strat really make that much of a differnce? Or did they shadow nerf dps?

[fringe cloud]

there's no skill in dps mfers when ppl who are better than them do more dps than them

[wooden zealot]

raid

[misty dawn]

let’s play melee

[fossil flare]

we hypersonicly connect to both fall in the one hole in 4

[clear wigeon]

you arent real

[fervent veldt]

hi joe hi knot

[tough sable]

im only good at ultimate

[gray widget]

thought you were piebaby for a sec and I got excited

[carmine carbon]

10% in contest is a massive difference

[alpine garnet]

chinese tech

[misty dawn]

hi imchicken5979

[tough sable]

hi bbq chicken

[wooden zealot]

nope..just me..

[fervent veldt]

hi bel hi uchur

[misty dawn]

funny you call me corny… look at your videos!

[fossil flare]

If any real speedrunner saw my runs they would put me in jail :(

[alpine garnet]

hi chicken5979 hi

[thorny roost]

how does 10% make such a huge difference?

[fringe cloud]

do not play either of those games, actually worse than d2

[fervent veldt]

bbq chicken alert ⚠️

[tough sable]

my montages mog you

[thorny roost]

Mathmatically.....

[olive hill]

yeah not a single person is beating this contest raid

[fossil flare]

hes too far gone lowk

[clear wigeon]

take the lowman tag off please

[gray widget]

bbq pork burgers

[alpine peak]

so hows the new update?

[fossil flare]

🥀

[alpine peak]

is it mid or bad?

[misty dawn]

i bet you can’t even reload nac

[fervent veldt]

lets all just calm down and lsiten to phon k

[fossil flare]

the game does work in the menu. goodluck if you try to go anywhere

[thorny roost]

but fr explain

[gray widget]

bel phonk

[tough sable]

they named the boatbang after me little brother

[alpine peak]

i heard the story was good and everyone hates the ball

[fervent veldt]

sleepy time phonk

[full yacht]

Nub

[fossil flare]

yeah p much

[narrow shoal]

i let my wife's boyfriend's dog hold the mouse while i use the keyboard, faster than those cheating wellskaters 😂

[knotty horizon]

can you still get lost signal?

[misty dawn]

no they did not.

[wanton halo]

the only fun day 1 raid was dsc and votd

[clear wigeon]

what is there to explain, its a boost in dmg, u asked why ur dmg is lower

[snow totem]

watching the raid race is making me want to actually buy the DLC bc the raid looks like itll be fun on normal mode. How long would it take me to get normal raid ready if I havent played since the beginning of ROTN?

[fervent veldt]

matter spark gets repetitive fast imo

[misty dawn]

joe baby is adelia rose

[thorny roost]

16K vs 40K is a MASSIVE difference

[fervent veldt]

other than that the story is really cool (imo)

[alpine garnet]

hate the traveler?

[thorny roost]

15% does not accomidate for that

[carmine carbon]

If you think the raid is worth 50$ then go ahead otherwise h ard skip

[tough sable]

your butt is crimped

[gray widget]

ooo lalal

[ripe pond]

Who’s in the final boss rn

[clear wigeon]

ur js not good then if ur hitting that low a number try harder

[fossil flare]

Everyone got soft reset, so just play like normal and you should be fine

[alpine peak]

the new matter spark mechanic where you turn into a ball

[misty dawn]

bel bit my bottom

[gray widget]

bro shut it

[fossil flare]

where is se

[alpine peak]

people are showing a lot of dislike towards it

[ruby sleet]

Has anyone cleared yet

[solemn flame]

where se

[gray widget]

no man

[fringe cloud]

if you vote for DSC you need to be evaluated

[clear wigeon]

WHO IS VOTING VOW 😭

[fossil flare]

I would vote vow but it was busted on launch

[ruby sleet]

Nobody’s cleared ?

[wanton halo]

Se is trash

[carmine carbon]

D1 raids have all better d1 than any d2 raids

[chilly steppe]

Byf gave up

[alpine peak]

i was also gonna ask if anyone has cleared the new raid yet?

[fervent veldt]

hi vs

[gray widget]

if u dont kiss your fireteam what are you doing

[solemn flame]

that’s because u were prob lfging it

[narrow shoal]

vog voters need to be executed

[alpine peak]

wat

[chilly steppe]

Hi fish hi

[alpine garnet]

bruh

[knotty horizon]

is there any way to get lost signal still?

[misty dawn]

800 kisses

[chilly steppe]

He quit the race

[wanton halo]

yeah i got 0 clears

[alpine peak]

rip

[clear wigeon]

xur probably

[fossil flare]

maybe for the time. but not at all if you look without nostalgia glasses

[ruby furnace]

So dattos team is taking a break

[thorny roost]

Why stream if you gonna have a black screen? Just do a private stream then

[tough sable]

dig in yo buh

[ruby sleet]

I agree, making us do the raid twice on contest was absurd 🤦‍♂️

[wanton halo]

vog day 1 was fun tbh

[alpine peak]

btw has anyone cleared the raid yet or no?

[fervent veldt]

start diggin in yo butt twin

[fossil flare]

D1 Was worse in most ways. all exept the art style and some mechanics.

[gray widget]

I want to make sweet love with you

[chilly steppe]

Nope no break. Byf straight up said he’s done

[ruby sleet]

I actually got the day one regular clear but was way too tired to do challenge mode

[ruby sleet]

If you insist lol

[ruby furnace]

Lmao so they have to find a 6th now

[ruby sleet]

Did Byf even pass one encounter

[chilly steppe]

Their whole team is done

[clear wigeon]

this is my least favorite person in the entire chat rn, and they have the goat as pfp 🤬

[carmine carbon]

Using that logic then that's unfair comparing other d2 raids because they all from different meta and mechanics state

[fossil flare]

There were some cool cinamatic moments in raids. which were wayyyyy cooler than what we have now

[snow totem]

Alright. I have 2 weeks off in August and id like to just raid for some of those days. So I gotta do legend campaign and then basically just grind light?

[fervent veldt]

hi xgrh

[chilly steppe]

Don’t think so

[alpine garnet]

what’s if there secret lore bomb after beating final encounter

[ruby furnace]

Like done period? Not for the day, omg that’s washed

[thorny roost]

Oh enlightened one what makes you so speciakl

[pure loom]

YouTube

[fossil flare]

yeah, unfort. dont ask me though. I dont have the DLC rn

[chilly steppe]

Done as in done done as in #Done

[fringe cloud]

cinematic moments in d1 raid

[ruby sleet]

There are a million ways d2 and d1 are both better than each other, it’s a silly comparison

[narrow shoal]

ppl who play destiny for a living couldnt beat 1 encounter🥀

[ruby furnace]

Nah wait dattos still going

[snow totem]

nah i appreciate it ty

[ruby furnace]

I just pulled up stream

[clear wigeon]

d1 raids were cool for 2014 but they dont hold up now, look at how lame they are compared to the actual d2 raids in this game

[tough sable]

dps scaling gotta be bugged

[ruby furnace]

[ruby sleet]

Has datto passed a single encounter

[ruby furnace]

I have no idea

[tough sable]

Ts ain for the average joe

[wanton halo]

bungie needs to stop with these long raids

[clear wigeon]

you js ask some really interesting questions

[earnest ridge]

IS the salt mines solo op bugged? The boss won't unshield for me.

[fringe cloud]

if u released d1 vog right now world's first would be like 45 minutes

[fossil flare]

Just games of their time tbh, if you like d1 more thats fine. but on a technical level, d2 is mostly the better game.

[tired oriole]

yes. hes on 3rd

[wanton halo]

just make the raid 3-4 hours no one got time for this bs after 10 years

[alpine garnet]

jus use tlord for dps

[chilly steppe]

AssTechCross still in first also

[fringe cloud]

as expected

[fervent veldt]

hi lemark

[alpine garnet]

these streamers are clueless

[tough sable]

5 insmot cryt on my team ts

[full yacht]

W raid race

[ruby sleet]

There is def ways d1 is objectively better than d2

[tough sable]

strand titan with fate bringer

[fringe cloud]

not really

[solemn flame]

wsg burger

[ruby cipher]

Cant clear 1st one either wa able to at least do that with SE contest

[fringe cloud]

d2 is better is pretty much every way

[rain bone]

where do you launch the campaign once you complete it

[fringe cloud]

and by a lot

[tough sable]

damage gotta be bugged i cant believe it

[thorny roost]

The raid DPS checks just feel so crazy

[fringe cloud]

that would be the point

[thorny roost]

Execpt: Wrath of the machine

[fossil flare]

I agree in some ways. but again, looking at it from a purely technical and gameplay lense, I think d2 is miles ahead in most ways

[charred yacht]

bro this sht is fcked up 😭

[fringe cloud]

people need to stop saying this. WotM is not that good

[fervent veldt]

hi jma

[fringe cloud]

basically every d2 raid is better

[chilly steppe]

False

[fringe cloud]

i could be sold on dsc being worse

[rich vapor]

Whats the best way to get 200 stat armor?

[tough sable]

its so fun until dps starts

[clear wigeon]

ppl have said this abt every raid that has come out on contest until someone finds some method of doing the dmg safely

[fossil flare]

Wotm is really cool but i do think its a tad overrated.

[fringe cloud]

in fact i am

[narrow shoal]

thank bungie for this hp scaling nonsense

[wanton halo]

bro shits in a bucket

[modest hound]

SWEAT POG

[ruby sleet]

Gameplay wise id agree 80%

[chilly steppe]

WotM is how the kids say, goated

[celest crater]

Anyone get past a boss yet?

[solemn flame]

all ur opinions has me thinking it’s ragebait

[wanton halo]

i beat the raid

[tough sable]

Am i bad if i dont clear this raid on contest ?

[celest crater]

Great job

[fringe cloud]

i did that raid like 5 times and it was so boring i quit until d2

[chilly steppe]

No

[pure loom]

Don’t worry, bungie will come out and say they’re listening

[rich vapor]

There's a new raid?

[fossil flare]

Im not trying to be a prick, or anything, im geniunely wanting to know what you like more tbh

[wanton halo]

no

[clear wigeon]

a tad bit? if ts came out in d2 instead of d1 ppl wouldv thrown a fit, the glaze it gets is crazy, its js the siva i think is why ppl like it sm

[ruby furnace]

Ok nvrmind byf was a different team mb

[charred yacht]

just pretend its another SE king

[carmine carbon]

Bruh people saying bad things about WotM???

[ruby furnace]

Idk why I thought byf and Datto were on the same team lol

[carmine carbon]

Aint no way

[narrow shoal]

I already duo flawlessed it on contest with my wife's boyfriend just uninstall slugger

[fossil flare]

I think there is a big d1 glaze just cause its old. but it does do some stuff better.

[fringe cloud]

people just like WotM cuz it was extremely easy after having to do king's fall for a year

[ruby cipher]

Its overrated. Im sorry, it is

[charred yacht]

I dont have the streamer damage buff 😔

[wanton halo]

we need shorter raids just give me 4 bosses in one big room

[vocal marten]

Everyone worried about raid race when Ready or Not speedrun boards just got wiped again

[ruby furnace]

You won’t believe this

[fossil flare]

I think the main things it does better are cosmetic, like its art, atmosphere and cosmetic details.

[vocal marten]

it's time for more ron runs :D

[fossil flare]

I feel like there will be a 5TH encounter. Im calling it

[wanton halo]

oh

[fringe cloud]

oh you can maybe say wrath is better than Ron but it's a tough one

[chilly steppe]

WotM was fun. The tower wall machine was a neat encounter. The Outbreak puzzle was very cool

[tough sable]

Stfu stupid clanker

[clear wigeon]

the only thing d1 did better than d2 imo was the way armor looked (bungie has been making banger armor for d2 recently tho), twilight garrison, and some of the strikes, otherwise d2 all day

[tough sable]

😅😏

[wanton halo]

you guys really arguing about the same games

[fossil flare]

1000% Agree, d2 armor is super ugly and plastic looking, with some exeptions.

[thorny roost]

what do you think the real final boss would be

[tough sable]

Bro stfu with the polls

[fringe cloud]

why are polls even allowed

[tough sable]

Tf u even sayin

[clear wigeon]

can we ban feng

[modest hound]

Still can’t see raid triumphs

[zealous condor]

literally what does that even mean

[vagrant ermine]

Can we have a poll on the opinion on polls?

[ruby furnace]

Someone raise a poll over banning polls

[fossil flare]

god i love the hunter/titan SRL armor

[ruby sleet]

Much less gimmicky, meta is always more natural, more based on you as a player not how sophisticated your build is (I still like D2 gameplay more)

[fringe cloud]

all the original joke writers coming out of the woodworks

[thorny roost]

only when the raid is cleared can you see them

[tough sable]

Fml bro

[ruby furnace]

I take tips in 100s and via cash app thank you 👍

[ruby sleet]

Safe to assume us regular folks are not clearing this

[modest hound]

Alr

[fossil flare]

I think thats a product of time, and how much the 360 could handle. rather than a choice they made for the balance. I do like the more complex and creative gameplay of d2 though

[wanton halo]

not me

[clear wigeon]

agreed, until lightfall bungie could not figure out how to make good armor for d2 for some reason, they can barely figure it out still

[chilly steppe]

@unkempt gyro when you’re finished, what’s your thought on getting rid of polls?

[fringe cloud]

safe to assume regular ppl are winning any games in the NBA

[narrow shoal]

its not too late bungie

[thorny roost]

Ive accepted that fact pretty much.....

Although IMO Crazy DPS check =/= skill

[wanton halo]

imma beat this raid on normal for sure

[clear wigeon]

these are over rated imo but they are cool

[tough sable]

when u finally see a dps strat for hob goblin and twitch hits u with 10 ads to the face

[thorny roost]

I think being -40 kind of screwed up the scalair

[charred yacht]

im getting mogged by roflwaffles bro

[fossil flare]

I think its because visually intresting armor sells better than in-universe gear. its a shame that d2 lost d1s genuine visual idenitity

[clear wigeon]

yes that does mean skill, stay alive and do optimal dps = skill

[ruby furnace]

No gotd armor set?

[ruby sleet]

Yeah it just gets annoying in pvp sometimes people be pulling out abilities I’ve never even seen, you consistently don’t know what cheesy thing someone is gonna pull out

[fringe cloud]

yeah but then why wouldn't they just sell the d1 armour that everyone jorks off about all day in eververse

[chilly steppe]

This makes zero sense

[fossil flare]

That does lowk sound like a skill issue, no diss man

[fringe cloud]

think about that

[clear wigeon]

you js have to know the game and pacing

[unkempt gyro]

WDYM? better to talk in DMs

[tough sable]

where tf do i get my catalyst for nlb

[fossil flare]

this is coming from someone who cannot play PVP to save my life.

[fossil flare]

same place you get catty for xeno

[ruby furnace]

Honestly I wish we had more weird armor parts that aren’t like…abstract? The grievous legs are some of the best in a while for hunter

[clear wigeon]

its js a different typa game

[fringe cloud]

like general grievous?

[ruby furnace]

Legs and arms*

[ruby sleet]

Not a skill issue lol I got all my pvp titles and 20+ flawlesses, It just gets annoying sometimes when people can’t just use their guns. And if they do it’s just the craziest teamshotting

[tough sable]

joe baby client

[ruby furnace]

Yes

[fringe cloud]

that's my goat

[echo parrot]

Hey chat, I just got home from le movie, is it done yet?

[fossil flare]

Yeah, thats a fair complaint. but still sounds like you are getting outplayed.

[clear wigeon]

it js gives it to u at the kiosk in tower where u claim preorder stuff

[ruby furnace]

2003 grendy tarkovsky grievous my goat

[ruby furnace]

Nope

[tough sable]

it aint there

[echo parrot]

Who's leading?

[clear wigeon]

it simply is a skill issue, unless ur playing 3 stacks as a solo

[ruby furnace]

3-4 teams tied at last encounter

[celest crater]

Wait did anyone beat a boss for the raid yet??

[clear wigeon]

are you sure u didnt claim it already?

[ruby furnace]

Snappyrock uh

Ham atidas

[fossil flare]

lets get rid of something that does absoultely nothing wrong, and only adds flare to an otherwise boring and plain channel!!!!

[earnest ridge]

I'm willing to bet because of health being garbage, trials just turns into pulses and scouts team shooting. gag.

[clear wigeon]

'snappyrock' 😭

[ruby furnace]

And atryxas

[ruby furnace]

I’m bad with names for these new gen mofos

[alpine garnet]

2 who voted yes ain’t even regulars

[ruby furnace]

Axetryas? Idk

[fringe cloud]

it does do something wrong. it makes bad jokes take up too much space

[clear wigeon]

newgen 😭

[vocal marten]

Somebody upsetti spaghetti over polls again!

[ruby sleet]

def not lol, I don’t have any problems in pvp

[fossil flare]

for all of a good 10 secs

[echo parrot]

Oh, so same as usual?

[ruby furnace]

Bro if these two have been around forever ngl I didn’t know they existed

[upper echo]

ikr, get these imposters out of here

[fossil flare]

same people who are complaining about a ping lmao

[fringe cloud]

10 sec x the number of unfunny ppl in the chat (a lot)

[alpine garnet]

hi EffecT hi 👑

[clear wigeon]

snazzy been around FOREVER

[celest crater]

Has anyone killed a raid boss yet?

[alpine garnet]

fr ong

[vocal marten]

Hi Uchur hi 👑

[fringe cloud]

the math checks out

[narrow shoal]

how do you see who voted for what?

[cerulean olive]

well its 4 bosses so...

[echo parrot]

Frong

[fossil flare]

🧠

[ruby sleet]

Skill issue cause I don’t prefer the current state of pvp as much is crazy

[ruby furnace]

Wh

Not to be mean but legit

[alpine garnet]

click or tap on vote option to see list

[ruby furnace]

Never heard of him not even trolling

Until like today

[clear wigeon]

js adapt to it, the sandbox in this game is ever changing, they js added rocket pulses bro 😭 its not going back to beyond light sandbox

[fringe cloud]

new video idea: NOW is the worst pvp meta in the history of destiny

[wanton halo]

new d2 lore ?

[fossil flare]

I dont think its wrong to say that, but im not happy with current PVP rn either

[fossil flare]

you can post this video at anytime. and still be right

[solemn flame]

same

[clear wigeon]

snazzyrock, no glaze but he is one of the most insane lowmaners in the game

[stone rune]

what even is the damage meta rn ;w;

[ruby furnace]

Valid go off

[ruby sleet]

I play pvp pretty often bro not much more to adapt to, does not mean I have to like it

[wanton halo]

guys

[ruby furnace]

Linears or rockets

[earnest ridge]

There's been plenty of garabge metas, but the weapon stat rn just makes pvp miserable.

[stone rune]

i see

[fossil flare]

The new armor system is a net negitive change my mind.

[fringe cloud]

at least stats mean something instead of 100 res and whatever u feel like

[clear wigeon]

if you really hate pvp then go play private tourneys in sweatcord or something, they have hc shotty only mono subclass 3v3s all the time

[fringe cloud]

or previously, 100 recovery and whatever you feel like

[wanton halo]

whats the meta

[ruby furnace]

I mean now it’s 200 weapon and super then whatever you like

[ruby cipher]

Dont understand Epoptes. We kill left and right hydra, break shields on boss and he still wipes us. I don't understand

[fossil flare]

Thats fair, but now its 200 of weapons and health, and whatever you feel like

[ruby sleet]

I’m not sure what ur not getting, I don’t hate pvp I just liked previous metas more

[alpine garnet]

tlord

[fringe cloud]

we're improving

[pearl bone]

“Minor negative challenge modifiers” is this guardian rank objective bugged? I swear I’ve added multiple negative modifiers when doing the portal stuff and it’s not completing. Anyone know what I’m doing wrong?

[fringe cloud]

just need a 3rd stat that doesn't suck

[wanton halo]

why are trace rifles good ?

[fossil flare]

dad gamers rejoicing rn

[clear wigeon]

*queenbreaker not linears

[coarse citrus]

does anyone know how i get access to the nether activity?

[fringe cloud]

or nerf the two good ones

[tough sable]

bc

[thorny roost]

Try 'training mode'

Thats what I did

[ruby furnace]

SS and some others still goated ain’t it

[ruby sleet]

Also I do run skrims sometimes

[stone rune]

Inb4 the new raid rocket is the meta

[fossil flare]

Just revert and think of a better armor system TBH

[alpine garnet]

ceno

[wanton halo]

ceno tap

[narrow shoal]

shooting panels/other mechanics + decent ad clear wep to swap during dps

[fringe cloud]

why would you revert to a worse system

[ruby furnace]

I mostly going off like seasonal artifact

[clear wigeon]

and they play with the mono metas in sweatcord if thats what ur looking for, my point is the game isnt going back to what it was before prismatic

[fringe cloud]

just change the current one

[tough sable]

shoot to loot

[pearl bone]

Ok will try that and see, thanks for the help.

[ruby furnace]

“The beatings will continue until morale improves”

[fringe cloud]

honestly they just need to add more bars to the ui

[stable flame]

How to we get deepsight harmonizers now?

[ruby sleet]

And that’s fine, does not mean I have to like it as much ☠️

[stone rune]

You dont

[proud kestrel]

have anyone completed the Explore Kepler Mythic?

[alpine garnet]

sweatcord like sweatcicle’s cord?

[clear wigeon]

pvp is based around pve no matter how much pvpers want it to not be it will always be that way, bungie caters to pve players first and pvp second

[ruby furnace]

There aren’t any in the pass iirc so

That’s the neat trick you don’t

[clear wigeon]

no like sweatcord scrims

[tired oriole]

who up dunking they chronons

[stable flame]

Smh

[narrow shoal]

pvp should have been made a seperate game and sandbox years ago

[fringe cloud]

original take

[ruby sleet]

Yes that’s a fact but I think majority of people have accepted it, you can’t level up as a player just playing pvp like you used to be able to

[ruby furnace]

People already confirmed the raid weapons aren’t craftable so

[fleet zodiac]

this is actually going to be last wish 2.0

[stone rune]

Yes

[fossil flare]

the system we have now is miles worse than what we had. was the old one perfect? no. far from it.

[ruby furnace]

Outside of the one exotic so far there isn’t going to be any crafts seemingly

[stone rune]

But bungie thought 34 dps phases for a contest was a good idea

[ruby furnace]

Boss gauntlet is Chad af yes

[clear wigeon]

yes you can, watch the top pvp players play 6s 😭 js outpace the enemy, if you try playing ultra close range its not going to work because thats where abilities thrive rn

trials has even more of a skill ceiling

[ruby furnace]

I like my mechanics raids but I’ll take a boss gauntlet

[fleet zodiac]

i like

[fringe cloud]

old system was trash, i don't know with the new one so whatever

[smoky galleon]

what dmg do i use for hydra boss if im runnig tractor on warlock

[fleet zodiac]

what were they thinking with argrios

[ruby sleet]

no you can’t, there is way too many things you need from pve to bring into pvp

[clear wigeon]

pantheon needs to be a permanent mode

[fleet zodiac]

genuinely how do they expect you to stay alive

[fossil flare]

I like the set bonus though, they should keep that.

[ruby furnace]

Is that the name or the credit card for a cheating program or- /j

[thorny roost]

prismatic warlock was easy to survive

[thorny roost]

trials is PAIN

[fleet zodiac]

3 bosses sniping you, hobgoblins and minotaurs spawning constantly, yellow bars requiring a super to kill, wyverns that literally 1 shot

[fossil flare]

using positioning and cover, basic skills for any player who cant rely on a op build the whole time

[fringe cloud]

me when the challenge mode is hard 😡

[tired oriole]

why would they be

[fleet zodiac]

there is no cover

[ruby sleet]

@fossil flare Regardless my point was to act like d2 is just a flat out better game in every aspect is mildly ridiculous

[fleet zodiac]

one of the bosses can see you at all time

[fossil flare]

positioning and health management

[ruby furnace]

The previous 3-4 raids are now craftable

[narrow shoal]

out of curiosity how many encounters have you cleared?

[echo parrot]

So, like, this has to be a bugged thing, right? I thought people were being hyperbolic about the DPS

[fringe cloud]

in this raid? 0

[ruby furnace]

LW DSC CE RON and SE

[clear wigeon]

well if thats what ur complaining abt then say that, obviously you need some gear from pve bro thats js how the franchise has always worked

[ruby sleet]

Is it really that bad?

[clear wigeon]

😂

[ruby furnace]

Also GOS

[fossil flare]

Thats fair. but honestly not the point i was trying to make. i could have absolutely made it clearer that i was only talking about the technicals.

[ruby cipher]

How do you open Epoptes to DPS? We're killing all the eyes and breaking the shields and still nothing

[ruby furnace]

Yea so the last 6 raids have craftable weapons lol

[echo parrot]

I'd link a clip if I could

[steel garnet]

as I said, bungie did not intend for the standard mode of dungs and trials to be 4x harder than before

[narrow shoal]

probably some weird hp scaling which bungie wont fix 🤣

[ruby furnace]

I don’t even mind them not being craftable

[fringe cloud]

crafting in this game is stupid anyway. you can have a crafting system but why does it let you make perfect 5/5 items

[fossil flare]

you are an elitist. i bought this DLC so i should be able to clear everything in the DLC no questions asked.

[ruby sleet]

“Complaining about” whole time I was agreeing that it’s a fact that pvp is based around pve😂

[steel garnet]

and daily reminder that a bugged weapon which deals 3x more than its supposed dmg can't oneshot helfnd's taken eyeballs in standard mode

[echo parrot]

This was a full DPS phase

[thorny roost]

"Oh but its contest people say raid dps sucks"

I feel like this raid's dps checks are way harsher than anything weve seen before.

[winged patio]

How tf am I supposed to beat the fallen boss for the graviton catylist when he kills me through my well when I have 200 health stat

[ruby furnace]

To save people hundreds of hours which then leads to the question of “are devs willing to make guns/rolls people can theoretically never have”

The answer is now going back to yes

[ruby sleet]

Is this the final boss?

[fossil flare]

dont rely on well, and move around

[ruby furnace]

Prior it was no

[winged patio]

All my builds require ads to kill to get stats up

[clear wigeon]

well bro its a pve game, they want to make you play pve to get the best things like thats js how it works 😭 pvp players that complain abt pve dont make sense to me

[fossil flare]

Make a new build

[winged patio]

But he does so much damage

[ruby sleet]

I agree, it’s 2025😂

[echo parrot]

Yeah, but apparently all the bosses are this tanky

[clear wigeon]

however since they removed crafting its more annoying now to get 5/5s

[steel garnet]

helfnd from warlords ruin takes 2 full boss rotations in standard mode, while previously he was easily beatable after half the rotation

[winged patio]

Without my well he just 1 shots me

[fringe cloud]

i mean name even 1 other game that let's you craft perfect items

[ruby furnace]

Idec about 5/5s most of the time I’m happy with a 2

[ruby sleet]

Interesting

[fossil flare]

okay, so move around, and heal. if you cant do that then look into improving your movement and management, relying on abilitys all the time will get you nowhere

[thorny roost]

this 100000%

[echo parrot]

No L, it's just Hefnd

[fringe cloud]

usually you can craft a pretty good item but if you want the best you have to get a random roll

[ruby furnace]

Borderlands the presequel if you did certain combos you can get guaranteed god rolls

[ruby sleet]

Also what’s this talk about deepsight harmonizers? I still have mine

[ruby furnace]

For whatever weapon you wanted

[fringe cloud]

ok multiplayer games. nobody cares about balance in single player games

[steel garnet]

witness in salvations edge on standard mode is almost unbeatable in time with the most meta gear and in perfect runs

[fossil flare]

Im not sure if i hate it, it makes getting guns more enjoyable for me. I think its personal preference tbh

[ruby furnace]

That’s a single player game

[fleet zodiac]

have you like

[ruby furnace]

It has coop

[chilly steppe]

What am I even looking at here. There’s so much on the screen

[narrow shoal]

not allowing you to enhance non-crafted versions of the weapon was the stupidest decision they could have made with crafting

[winged patio]

FFXIV ._.

[ruby sleet]

I wonder if bungie is gonna address this

[fleet zodiac]

played the raid

[echo parrot]

Boss bar

[thorny roost]

tbf he was easily clearable with an exotic everyone got

[fleet zodiac]

you go from 100 to 10 hp in like 1 second

[fringe cloud]

just make it so you can craft like 2 stats and then the rest are random

[ruby furnace]

It’s literally the worlds most comparable looter shooter franchise to d2

[steel garnet]

and it's a prebroken witness

[fringe cloud]

lowers the rng but doesn't just make it automatic

[chilly steppe]

That tiny bit was one DPS?

[echo parrot]

Yep

[ruby sleet]

So how are the teams on the final boss actually doing? Is that ss the same experience everyone’s having

[chilly steppe]

Something has to be busted

[stray bear]

had a thought, what if the strict dps check is bungie's way of discouraging streamers from black screening. Sounds like a bungie solution to the problem, "oh streamers are afraid streaming will reveal mechanic solution, well we'll just make it so its the damage phase that trips people"

[fossil flare]

If i wanted to, i could grind for hours and hours, but now i can do my 5 and leave and have fun with my cool gun, its a bit of a dad gamer take. but I think it makes the game a little more digestible

[fringe cloud]

or have adept perks that actually do something and make those random rolls only

[ruby furnace]

Like I said I don’t mind crafting being gone I’m just wondering if they are going to have a turn in or something for people who still have remaining deep sight things

[charred yacht]

i doubt it

[ruby furnace]

The resource thingies

[echo parrot]

The fact that they haven't said anything and it's almost 11 hours has me worried

[ruby sleet]

Bungie takes more away from us than adding things to the game 😂

[fringe cloud]

if you want to play the game casually that's fine but then you don't need 5/5 weapons

[fossil flare]

I cant really help you out any more, if you are getting hit so much you cannot do the mechanics, you arent playing well enough

[chilly steppe]

Even for contest mode, that’s …. Embarrassing damage

[steel garnet]

no it's just bugged and they didn't care enough to postpone the raid before fixing raids and dungs

[modest hound]

It was a full damage phase?