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icic but im trying to be more gun oriented
I think there's a ghost mod that gives you a damage boon and Orb Collector.
A bit
btw, this is probably obvious, but electrostatic mind with lodestar and geomags is insane
But ranged I consider like hammer throw or needles
Now that I think about it. It's funny that Arc Hunter is the only Hunter subclass that has a normal melee.
i may think about it but im kinda stubborn ngl
Stasis shurikens need a pve buff
drain banes need to be removed from d2
probably the cheapest game mechanic iāve ever seen
just kill them fast
they can just look at you and drain half your health
Oh yea, Proximity Ward should be standard on finishers, change my mind. (The overshield while using finisher.)
What does that do again
the whole point of banes is having you center your attention on them or seek cover
Overshield while using finisher.
most underrated mod in the game
Oh def
If I ever use finishers outside of karnsteins or doubles special yeah
I abuse tf out of special finisher
prox ward is always nice to run
I canāt run a special ammo exotic without special finisher
It's busted in the Nether. It gives you a full 500hp overshield while doing a finisher.
don't you already get a ton of dmg resist when doing a finisher
unless you're doing a GM, that's usually enough
Wouldnāt tether hunter be really good in the nether
pair that w the boon that gives u hp on finishers
Or omnioculous
omni š¤®
Yeah itās boring but wouldnāt it be good
no
Eh
It's solid. Don't forget how Tether works, since it spreads debuffs.
I delete the prismatic hunter meme video i always sent
Omni man
Onslaught revived VH for a couple months then it died again
havent watched that show
Ok so I need some help. Iām at rank 10 with the vendor and collected all 18 items around the dreadnaught but I only have two upgrades for the smg?
Timegated.
Mid show anyways
@fierce dawn why new pfp?
Everyone hating on Kanye so I gotta be different
how does charlemange record total daily population?
And I do actually have hope for the new album
So itās not a bug that I jsut donāt have access to grip mods as thereās only two upgrades billable?
i dont speak titan but thank you
Btw itās the cover of Kanyeās new upcoming album
Use the candy pfp
"i have faith in bully"
:(
You know what? I'm going to say it. Baseline Hunter is probably the most boring class. Hunters don't do anything that's that interesting.
Yeah I do
You can go invis, throw stuff, go invis, fire a big gun, go invis, and that's about it.
And the controversy stuff doesnāt really affect me anymore seeing what Kanye has said in the past
Heās been doing this for a while
Remember when he said OJ Simpson was amazing
he says a lot of stuff
Heās doin the same thing with diddy rn
Exactly
As long as he makes good music ima listen
more banes should be as dangerous as drain
Hunters need something that's crazy. Like look at Titan and Warlock supers functionality-wise, then compare them to Hunters.
bruh kanye gone downhill since donda
And 99% of celebrities are horrible people behind the scenes anyways
Hunters don't have a single super that's as interesting as what Titans and Warlocks get.
theyre all about th esame
I mean his new single was really good
villianizing himself for the sake of promoting his album is just weird tho
So the number currently for the new smg Avila leninteunsic upgrades is just three?
It is
bully is gonna be better than vultures 1&2 but be ass compared to LR and yeezus imo
Iām not missing any items?
if ur music's good then it should speak for itself
Yeah but that isnāt enough for Kanye
I think heās addicted to the whole Jay Z rags to riches thing
for ad clear / mid range combat , there are only two weapons in the game that can run with exposive payload and incandesant , which one is better, zaoli's bane or vision of confluance?
He loves going from mud to a billionaire
Found a nice lady
he already did tho, why does he need to keep doing this
Come to think of it, most of the Hunter supers are just different ways of spinning. Arc Staff, Silkstrike, Silence and Squall, Storm's Edge, Blade Barrage. All spin.
zaoulis bane literally a baby sunshot
zaolis has a better damage profile and looks better
just make good music and don't say stuff that's so outta pocket š
Ah yes they should be able to make you one shot in a boss room with no cover, wonderful logic
Also I believe Kanye can figure out how to use AI for music in a productive way
kanye ahead of his time tho
if he does pull it off then i'll be surprised
Dude has bipolar bear disorder leave him be an don't poke the bear
I think if he just uses it for splicing samples and clearing up the lisp in his voice i can get behind that
just kill the bane man š
not saying it's impossible but still
he uses 808s and then the whole industry starts using 808s
Heās not bipolar heās technically autistic
does unsworn have crazy damage potential since it can roll with elemental honing and rewound rouds?
Same with samples
Drop bungie id
hes probably gonna start a movement of using ai in music
Isn't Drain the one that you could put the Gangsta's Paradise "OOOH" onto?
People hated chipmunk soul
He's diagnosed bipolar tho
literally the best at sampling
fair, and i already have a godroll adept zaloi's bane with encanced perks, so , glad that's the better option
through the wire
He got diagnosed wrong and was recently rediagnosed as autistic
yall are prods too?
kanye's influence is up there fs but like c'mon man š
lol, i just realized we only have 2, 140 stasis hand cannons
guys what exotics should i get with my exotic cypher
Yeah people even chaka didnāt like it sheās stated as saying she wouldnāt have cleared the sample if she knew what Kanye was gonna do with it
So not bipolar just raging rtrd got it
what exotics do you not have
one is eyasluna from season 14, and the other is the reprised judgement from season of the wish
But later she saw what Kanyeās vision is and says she loved it and Kanyeās so cute
alot, which ones are bets
@fierce dawn please use pfp
can i get armor ?
:(
Please
Not even Season 14, from Grasp of Avarice release.
:(
...which happened during season 14
So reprised Eyasluna soon yes?
real. Reprise Grasp of Avarice already
Naomi did you hear wheels fall off
idk what your playstyle is but i liked anarchy, thorn and le monarque
Ty did carry but ye did have a catchy feature
kanye was bs in vultures
no
but Ty cooked
Yeah vultures is 
Zavala uses Stasis once and then never again.
Bc that's not zavala
Vultures 1 is a bit overhated but itās by no means great on a Kanye scale
just remember the hype around vultures before it got released
Vultures 2 is F tier on any scale
yeah good point
he just hasnt been in the story
whats his best album imo
I'm sorry, vuvuzela.
That's Keith David stunt zavala rip lance Reddick zav
zavala is done as a character imo
Late registration doesnāt get enough love in the Goat convo
yeah no skips but is it really the best?
Late registration is on par with graduation
Yea, he just should get to make a few more appearances here and there, maybe let him get partially involved with the story. But no more spotlights.
Yes music pretty overrated imo
i think TCD and MBDTF better
Itās hard to rank Kanyeās older albums
we'll see, also the last time a ghostless guardian went on a mission it did not go so well...
Also, is this cat the only prismatic emote we have?
It feels disrespectful to put one over the other when all 4 of them are top tier
@fierce dawn thanks you for using that pfp
Imo TLOP and 808s arenāt that great
Youāre welcome
I meant theyāre great but thereās not enough hits
Like late reg has no skips
No other Kanye album can say that
its like 3 bangers vs 3 bangers
fair
im convinced elemental honing is S tier
Def a warlock main š š„
also makes two-tailed fox finally useful
When did lodestar get disabled?
im a titan, but warlock has much better potential with this perk
what does it do
I was using it this afternoon and now its disabled
35% damage boost if you can get all 5 differnt elements applied as damage
last for 20 seconds
is Qbreaker disabled for contest?
Prismatic warlock jumping with glee
but if you get a new element as you go from 1 to 5, the timer resets
thats crazy asl
no
oh, that's funny. The normal pali gets the manufacturer origin trait but the adept one doesn't
hm daz good
To be fair, it's Wildcard we're talking about.
rolling storm handcannon
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also, man, going through the collections tab reminded me of a time where we got weapons that weren't reskins of others
or previous models with junk taped to it
I mean tbf itās hard to make a billion new models just for the weapons to go away
Like raid/dungeon weapons should be new models
But seasonal or playlist weapons get excused imo
ye, those sting, the raid/dungeon ones
trace rifles š
š š š„
Yea, the trace rifle situation seems a little excessive.
Traces need a reserve buff and a damage buff
Traces currently just feel like special ammo auto rifles.
And donāt give lodestar or microcosm the buff
lodestar feels so right
Except they suck compared to the special ammo auto we have
Lodestar does almost special ammo damage
They need a bigger buff to reserves and damage!
legendary ones do, pretty badly
the exotic ones at least make up with their exotic part
Literally who uses traces other than lowmanners as a placeholder or shoot to loot
At least we're finally getting unique perks for them.
legendary ones? pretty much nobody
div on some occasions, cenotaph
cuz they fill a niche that nobody asked to have filled
but yeah they suck
Leg ones no one uses except Sweatcicle
Sweatcicle also hides his screen.
although depending on how quickly it activates, the new arc traces with jolting feedback could be interesting
Also leg shotguns in pve suck outside of 1-2p
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And we have a million 1-2p shotguns
be like that when everything hurts and fusions do the work of shotguns better
they dont tho š
Too close ranged and the payoff isnāt high enough especially in higher end pve
the cia wants you believe that this is a trace rifle reskin
shotguns by design are supposed to be short range damage burst weapons
Thatās literally what happened with the new exotic shotty
It was just choir but locked to short range
And it gave true sight ig
fusion rifles do burst damage at a higher range and with controllable spread, with the only downside being charge time
lmao
nice bait
Nigga 
I love that Lord of Wolves isn't even a shotgun, it's a pulse rifle.
You say nice bait to anything atp š
Feels really close to merciless
bc shotguns are good?
were amorphous scriptures dropping much more frequently last week?
hmm, considering these numbers, how many shots are we feeling to trigger it on a trace
like 20? cuz that'd be quite nice, actually
20 and then 15 when aplified
Yea, 18-20.
I want jolt on the area gl :(
Ambitious full court
Riskrunner should get Voltshot on its catalyst. Let my man Jolt. (Jolting Feedback would be too strong.)
then again, unless for some reason you NEED to have your exotic slot free, lodestar powercrept every legendary trace by a long shot
i love shotguns in pve
specially on arc warlock. Just spread some with arc alignment on and watch the ionic traces rain in
Lodestar doing about the same damage as Coldheart is a big ouch.
On Lucky Raspberry it's basically, "We have Starfire at home."
special traces need a global 15% dmg buff
Every jolt proc gives you grenade energy.
coldheart struggles so much because it's like, its whole thing is supposed to be damage, but also you can't have it have TOO much damage cuz it's very easy to use
they should give it a special version of jolting feedback that procs faster
choir already exists just crank coldheart all the way up
I love listening to popular songs without some fvcker in my ears talking about it being overplayed
Nah, give it Bolt Charge buildup.
bolt charge buildup + coldheart can trigger bolt charge (without needing a titan with storm's keep)
BUNGIE!!!! MAKE DUNEMARCHERS JOLT, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
While at max charge, doing damage grants Bolt Charge, this weapon can activate Bolt Charge or something like that.
Why would you ever use cold heart when delicate tomb exists
While you're at it, give Riskrunner Voltshot.
It jolts and gives a bajillion traces and does dummy damage
uh... ammo economy i guess?
Special finisher negates that
tru
If Coldheart did Bolt Charge, it'd be better damage-wise.
And scav mods and chest storage
So Delicate Tomb would have utility as an advantage.
Basically inf ammo
make ceno the lucky pants of trace rifles
So more damage
or no backup plans
i honestly prefer coldheart cuz the ionic trace generation doesn't require a kill, but yeah, it not great
Great lodestar meta
oh my god yes please
peacekeepers and lucky pants are already cranking primary weapon dps way up
Also, anyone seen Strand Warlock with Apotheosis Veil and Grapple? You can get across a PVP map before Insatiable runs out.
meanwhile, warlocks:
I kinda wish RoF did some damage stuff outside of radiant
warlocks have: get radiant on fusion kills, partially refills trace rifles
RoF feels like it exists solely to pair it with vex mythoclast lol
Hunters used to do heavy ammo damage with malfeasance
specially in pvp. Get one (1) kill and you're doing 55 to the head
The corrupted strike hated to see a h*nter pull up
Hunters have aboslutely nothing going for the currently.
wish they reverted the lucky pants nerf
Yeah it feels unnecessary
Celestial goldie also needs some of its damage back.
They keep adding burst hc like anyone gaf atp
i gaf
No one cares for them outside of lp
burst hand cannons need a reload speed buff
I'm not going to change from my stance that Hunters are the most borring class mechanically.
Burst hc with ep incan would go hard
I agree and warlocks are the most fun bc they have the most diversity
Honestly, it feels like Titans and Warlocks are where Bungie goes to be creative, then Hunters are just what's left.
Prismatic Hunters have 2 dodge aspects.
One of which is Threaded Specter.
It doesn't even really work as a distraction because once you start doing damage enemies ignore it completely.
And Ascension also uses class ability, so technically 3 aspects for your class ability.
hunters still kinda rule that strike
Iām glad titan isnāt the class in a crisis
Omg hi lmao
I did a pantheon with you once
Hunters have been in a crisis this entire time, name one thing Hunters have ever been able to do that's unique that isn't invis spam.
im considering hunter for hypernet
The caretaker enc
Dodge melee dodge melee
its also pretty good there
I guess
Titans do punching better.
LP + wardens + ghorn or malf
Lucky pants
soloing the witness
I loved wardens and d breath
malf + mg
ur not using LMG on LP hunter lol
Heavily relied on artifact
u absolutely can
no point when u can use a rocket or sword
Or a gl
coz most of the trash ads ur killing with malf
Hunters at the end of the day do NOTHING that is mechanically interesting.
3 shotting dungeon bosses
mg also works and use malf on the beefier targets
this hunter victimization is insane
Prove me wrong.
infinite sustain melee builds
Titans do it.
Cyrtarachne + navigator (class item version of cyrtarachne + renewal has unreal levels of DR) mothkeepers ex diris, caliban/verity class item with GPG, triton vice with the class specific glaive once they fix it
does nether progress save?
so is it that hunters have nothing mechanically interesting or that they have nothing that surpasses every other class
funny amounts of burst DPS (rip still hunt)
and is it normal not to gain any regen in here
They have nothing mechanically interesting that is unique to them.
Yes thatās part of it
You get a lot more health but you donāt regen easy
Even then, that's just shooting guns.
I think itās unique and I applaud Bungie trying new things
gifted conviction
Titans best dps build was also still hunt at the time and could out dps hunters
it also only lasted like a month and now is superseded by LOW magdump
no it wouldnt LOL
Yeah it could
Bombardiers also does the dropping bombs on ability usage.
thats also on hunter
u understand that still hunt would hit for 999,999 pre nerf right?
on celestial
or close to it
u mean jolting feedback?because you dont reload riskrunner 
hunters are the only class that cna activate timelost mag multiple times
Gives you a reason to reload it. Jolting would be too strong.
I think that's a confirmed bug though
thinking back it was still a pretty complex rotation
if fully optimized
Wdym
any multicast super ig
multiple shot tether procs timelost mag after every activation
Morbius quiver procs Timelost mag on ever shot.
jolting feedback would be superior on it
cuz once u take arc damage u cant reload
Too strong as I said. Consider you'd be both jolting and getting chain lightning at the same time.
In situations where there's not arc damage coming at you it would improve its usage.
how about this.give a choice between voltshot and jolting feedback.
singlehadedly revive the game.
Such as the Dread who literally have no source of Arc damage.

In Riskrunner's case it's done chain lightning forever. So it deserves some Jolt.
people actually shoot riskrunner at things that arent caretaker bees?
But yea, Symmetry shouldn't be getting Jolt or something like that.
Really Voltshot would just help Riskrunner's neutral game, when you don't have Arc Conductor procced.
Give risk runner a grenade alt fire that self damages and jolts enemies
No
tbf if ur not proccing arc conductor (nothing is doing arc dmg to you) you shouldnt be using riskrunner

Birds in the trap sing McKnight
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Birds in the trap sing McKnight
coz its whole thing is the DR
Also, is it just me or do Titans get all of the weird but neat exotics? Blastwaves, Arbor Warden, Wishful Ignorance, Strongholds, etc.
synthoceps
this is the way
Didn't say good.
tank-oriented class means tank-oriented exotics
Although Blastwaves are really fun, but if they didn't activate on just sliding that'd be nice. Maybe jumping out of a slide instead.
NOOOO
Wishful ignorance is fun
Wishful Ignorance, Blastwaves, and Arbor Warden are not tank exotics.
mask of fealty just came out
You can just run it on brave browser and it skips the ads
Dropped in Revenant.
Mine ended like 3 months ago and I still haven't listened to a single ad
Does it work on mobile
Nahh i use an mp3 player for mobilr
yes dude thats recent
How to do that
ima be real ive no clue what those do
i dont play titan
You get some mp3 files from places and you play them on an mp3 player app. I use musicolet
Does that work on iPhone bc a lot of stuff doesnāt work for sum rzn
Nope
Sad
Wishful is a whole paragraph. Blastwaves yeet you back and make Stasis crystals on rocket jump. Arbor lets you throw your barricade.
Wishful is just trash

Gives you an extra melee charge and a little bit of melee damage and regen on bow pulse heals
Hoil and armamentium are way better stasis exotics than the one that makes your class ability crystals
champions are a non-issue now
1st encounter would replace the knights with barrier champs. 2nd would be unstop phalanx & overload captain
3rd would be unstop ogres
Love that!
Hoarfrost was hilarious in the Cabal Iron Banner mode. If you drop it inside a bubble it instakills the bubble.
Of course you gotta get inside first.
Have to be taken champs/ so overload hobs and unstoppable phalanxs
4th would be either unstop ogres or barrier knights
there are some instances where the devs swap a taken enemy for a hive
Fck Valentineās Day
or theyll just straight up add a champ
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Hear me out, Last Wish master just replaces every single enemy with unstoppable ogres.
But in dungeon or raid?
Consecration titan
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It works with 1 2 punch though which is pretty decent. You could run swordbreaker with one two punch and the fragment that makes powered melee kills activate unraveling rounds
"It's all ogre now."
should be both i think
So does synthos 
Not sure if it's on strand tho I forgot
Yeah but wishful is more fun
Oh yea, if anyone didn't know, Gunpower Gamble is in fact an ignition. Nobody's ever done anything with this fact.
in KF totems they add two unstops per 50 motes deposited iirc
The first encounter spawns a hobgoblin in middle after every door phase in dps
I have š
Cus it sucks
YAS
could do that + the barrier knights
Anyone remember when Stasis could freeze barrier champs out of their barrier? That was fun.
5th would be two overload sniper hobgoblins per room per floor
and QW idk put unstop phalanxes
2nd enc - overload hob after 1/3/5 dps phases
Unstop in puzzle rooms
sub any normal phalanx spawns for unstop phalanx
You know, Dire Taken champions are actually a little concerning.
I don't think we know what is what. Since all Dire Taken had their abilities swapped around.
3rd enc unstoppable phalanx or overload hob for the captains that drop the eye
Like imagine the Dire Psions get overload and spawn an overload dog when they die.
unstoppable dire knight
4th enc overload hob instead of taken captains
Getting yoinked right into an unstoppable.
The Dire Minotaurs probably get to be overloads.
5th enc would have overload hobs
QW would just spawn mini witnesses
Boom master lw
could also just make the captains yellow bars
swap from sword to shotgun as well
Those thralls are a menace.
the phalanxes can immune a target AND still shoot at you
The Dire Thralls drop landmines when they die and it causes so much chaos.
Whatās dire taken?
the Taken on the Dreadnaught.
Arent they the same
Nope.
Psions turn to dogs
Abilities are shuffled around, some have new ones.
Dire takens models are so good. They look so much sharper
Centurion can suck each other off
lol
Gives a nice new feel to a familiar bunch of despots
Centurions have the Captain's blinding orb. Captains get the Vandal bubbles. Vandals get full invisibility.
Woops
captains getting the bubbles is vile
Minotaurs ate a Duskfield grenade.
Oh yea, did I mention all Dire Taken can fire through them?
I am aware they can
Yes, even the ogres.
actually would be terrifying in gm
Bring that Radiant. (And anti-barrier.)
they're already annoying in the nether
whatās the best dps solo for final boss spire in titan too and I mean weapons
Arbalest seeing the new Dire captains: 
Easiest choice.
sometimes I wonder if Tormentors know they have other attacks aside from the suppressing slam
They do, they just know it's their worst.
Does the halo magnum still melt tormentors?
seriously though that move is stupid and bad, you die more from being launched off the map than the actual move itself
Also fun fact: You take next to no damage if a Tormentor grabs you in the Nether. Like your health bar barely moves.
It's faster to let one grab you than it is to run away.
1 eager swing and it stops chasing you
it's also kinda weird that the devs introduced tormentors, which can knock you out of supers, in the same DLC that introduced Strand, which has 2/3 roaming supers
And they can kick you out of Transcendance.
GOOD dont get hit by them
Just be mindful around them, it's not rocket science
Kill them from a reasonable distance or whatever
it's counter-intuitive to make a subclass that has two roaming supers and then make an enemy that punishes roaming supers in the same line
Speaking of Subjugators, the Omen are the worst of the two. That Stasis wave hits you no matter what. Even if you're behind a wall you get knocked back.
Huh? That's basic game design
Any regular subjugatora?
Honestly, PVE Suppression should work like Tinitus from Grimm does. It turns off your normal abilities, but not your super and Transcendeance.
it's not a great way to show off strand when you have an enemy that just makes you unable to use it
Idk man, it's on you if you get suppressed. You have to be kissing a tormentor to get hit by ut
Tormentor flying from the top rope every five seconds says otherwise.
If they land within shotgun distance you're getting supressed and sent 50 feet away.
go on and use the strand titan super against a tormentor and try not to get suppressed out of it
Even worse with the boss ones you can't freeze or suspend.
Right click suspends them. It's Strand Hunter you're thinking of.
you cant suspend boss tormentors
You forgot to specify them.
Why use it on a tormentor when you know you'll get suppressed
Is you silly?
Alt attack, although that's a waste of a super at that point.
It may shock you, but weapons do exist
why give us roaming supers and then make an enemy that doesn't let you use them
Miniboss tormentors are easy to handle, but boss tormentors are aids.
I'll take a boss subjugator over a boss tormentor any day.
Just need weapons that shred boss tormentors.
because thats bungie making content that isnt disposable and becomes apart of the core game
That's why you have weapons like linear fusions and snipers and scouts and other long range things
non-crit aoes are the best at ad clearing so bungie is making you diversify your loadout by making an enemy resistant to non-crits
Machine Guns are also pretty good against Tormentors. Lotta ammo so missing them while they're running isn't much of an issue.
Like I said, boss tormentors are the bad tormentors. They're the ones I have an issue with, but minibosses are completely fine.
Too bad I can't just kill a Tormentor by dropping a Drake tank on top of it.
Big scary monsters like tormentors are well designed beasts
Challenging but not completely awful
All of the Dread faction is pretty well designed mechanically.
The shielded Subjugator duos are pretty bad, though.
I'm just pointing out the irony that introducing tormentors in the same DLC that introduces a new subclass is unusual
They're annoying but balenced
That's not unusual man idk what to say
They introduced Salvation Elites that can freeze you in Beyond Light. Lucent Knights throw a suppression grenade at you.
synthoceps lightning surge can cause them to switch shields after every use
Tether + MG.
S. elites cant knock you out of your super, and no new subclass came out in Witch Queen
They're minibossess so Tether locks them into blind.
Void 3.0, Solar 3.0, Arc 3.0.
They were all effectively brand-new.
yeah especially solar
Also, Salvation Elites can in fact kick you out of burst supers.
Additionally, Subjugators are vulnerable to their own element type.
because of the nature of freeze, that isn't the same as how suppression works
How was it discovered finality's auger is not dropping rng based? The same way weight gates were found I believe?
Bungie might now be paying more attention to drops after weight gate.
Bungie also down-tuned the restrictive nature of the Nether somewhat.
did they fix healing orbs not healing you randomly
Sure didn't feel like it while I was farming for an adept scout last week
Perhaps not, but too many whiny people complained that the activity took too long while playing solo.
ALL of them had tunnel vision -_-
Only reason a Nether run takes me so long is because I insist on getting as many minor boons as possible.
Clearly the game was complaining that you were tunnel-visioned on one roll.
How many you farm btw, just to put a number
Same. Takes a while to find some of them secrets.
I could care less about the boons
20 guns with 6 perks with tunnel vision always being one of the perks is silly
U must use tunnel vission
I see
most of the minor boons are meagre aside from the ones that provide healing or special grenades
I'm going insane
@static yarrow can u make a math equation on it ?
Only minor boon that gives healing is Paracausal Health. Those other boons are major and corrupted boons.
Nah I'm sick rn :(
I still think the boon choices are weak
Hello sick, i am Medicine
the "more damage for more damage" corrupted boon is such an awful trap tradeoff
Yes. Ontological Limit is the only major boon that's actually worth it. Namely because is so damn strong.
Nom nom nom
That's because it removes the +300 health the Nether gives you. It should remove like 200 health at most.
it's also the fact the additional damage is underwhelming
you get to do slightly higher damage at the risk of being 1-shot
Yea, Ontological Limit and the one that's more DR for less movement speed are the best ones by a massive margian.
You're already going to be picking up a ton of minor boons, so Ontological Limit is just free health and damage.
the one that makes you perma-amplified is also good for arc builds
The one that gives bolt charge for running has about the same effect with the artifact perk that amplifies you on max Bolt Charge.
bolt charge and the amplified buff has def carried arc into a better place
arc titan is my favorite imho, I love storm's keep
the more speed for slower reloads is really good too
I really wish the grenade major boons stacked into one grenade instead of...
the reload speed is barely noticeably while you get a permanent speed booster that stacks on top of the actual speed booster
man, still no shiny LMG. ive gotten masterworked for every other nether weapon
Then again, throwing 6 grenades back-to-back because I got a bonus Gunpowder Gamble without the cooldown.
I now have a new favorite speeder bike.
Same here. 2 shiny adamantite tho.
arc burst supers always had an aura to them
The original is still the best.
All 3 of Arc Hunter's supers involve spinning.
hunter rotate
Unless we referring to Arc Hunter D1 super.
What are some good weapons a solo player who doesn't have final shape can get?
BXR-55 Battler
Queenbreaker.
conditional finality
No Reciprocity.
Gives you back 50% of the healing you give.
mechanical keyboard
Stability masterwork required to reduce recoil deviation.
Not mine lol
It's a healing auto, stability is a non-issue.
click clack clack
What, you prefer that cheap ultra-thin swill?
zaolis bane from kings fall
joxers longsword from crucible
lotus eater from zavala
@thick veldt reciprocity and ?
I can hear you typing from miles away with that noisy-ass keyboard
do catalysts have a higher drop chance on higher difficulty NFs? or can i just farm advacned
Attrition Orbs prolly, since it triggers off of healing allies too. Go full support.
idc. At least I won't have to pitch my keyboard if the keys get sticky.
why is your keyboard sticky
farming crucible private matches is the most efficient but very boring
It's made of wood.
i thought they didnt drop from private matches?
I'm just saying, if I happened to eat anything sticky by my PC, there's always a chance that keys could get stuck.
they do a ton of people in #private-pvp are doing it
is nether best farmed for first encounter for funny adept weapons?
Should I complete all of the campaign quests? I just got the game today with the bundle
Although, Circle of Life does help it deal with squishies.
Adept is overrated. Deepsight is better.
I'm gunna deepsight your mom
Yes, campaigns give you many unlocks.
Great, more mom jokes.
What happens if you stack frost armor, woven mail and amplified on prismatic warlock and is it easy?
DR go brrrr.
where cann u farm spoils
Also, fun fact: Blastwave Striders give 5x Frost Armor when you trigger them.
Unfun fact: They take a year to charge.
I got some in GoS yesterday.
I am looking for buddies to do pvp private match for queenbreaker cat drop and seasonal challenge stuff completion.
Oh yea, I need to do Gambit for the XP +++ challenge.
Hold onto that until reset and get 10 levels.
find a ledge
heavy attack > jump > shatterdive/well
what causes op panels to be immune in last encounter of vespers?
Not having op.
ah then its bugged
Gambit doesnt work in private
whats the 5/5 roll for supercluster
Master Last Wish?
7
7
1
Yes - Bring on the champs
i cant skate
š
whats happening
Is storm's edge super worht using?
i just fall
in pve no
i love female hunters man
its pretty good with star eaters
its not a bad super, nighthawk js outshines it
any ideas what weaposns and stuff i should be running for PVP and trials? basically no pvp skill which is why im practicing in crucible before trials gets on tomorrow
lonestar
can someone give a tldr on why lord is so good this season
whats lonestar?
Lodestar is dissabled in PVP.
got buffed and applies scorch, just melts health bars
bugged
the buff applies too much rn its bugged
mhm
ah okay i see, thanks
Huh, so apparently Adamantite is currently the most used weapon in the game.
weird cs theres nothing special ab it
Kinetic slot healing auto.
lonestar is an average d2 player who lone today
Mmmhhh i wonder what activity could have pushed people towards using healing autos 

It's Gambit.
fishe
its awesome
Why didnāt bungie add a new exotic handcannon in any episode?
Look at this list.
This is overall weapon popularity.
Ergo Sum is the only exotic on the first page out of 25.
what activity
zased
Entire game.
Sword go swish swoosh
š
Cuz it's the coolest sword ever
And the weapon on our grave, of course people are gonna use it
why is adamantine #1 š¤®
(and it just got a new pyramid style ornament)
Outbreak is the next exotic at 26th.
do u lik my sword sword
Contest mode
surprised low and anarchy aint there
Casuals reign supreme.
Season hasn't gone on long enough
filthy casuals
This is the last page.
Imagine using new weapons
THANK GOD FINALLY
ancient gospel is pretty neato
pvp is now playable š§
ive been focusing this thing the most and have never gotten an adept
Did yall actually buy the star wars cosmetics while the game is in it's current state? Cuz if so I got a meme coin to sell you š š
Kek
whats wrong witht he game in its current state?
Here's the other adepts.
is star wars canon now in destiny universe
Nah the only thing I bought are the legs that go along with the titan exotic class item
Trooper Titan helmet is pretty funny
I ain't spending 20⬠for 1 armor bruh
Should've been, Bounty Hunter, Stormtrooper Titan, Jedi Warlock.
Most recognizable Titan helmet
goons on deck
Warlocks are literally space wizards, it's perfect.
10 goons down
let's play gambit
Chat, why is nobody using Edge Transit, are they stupid?
g-g-gambit..
I bought 100$ worth of silver to spend on dlc then I bought the deluxe edition
Iāve had 100$ silver for like 3 years now
Corrupted.
That Neomuna strike also has a lot.
okay yee
On that traversal section that people normally just Skimmer away from, there's like 30 Taken Thrall that spawn.
So if you go slower you get all of them to yourself.
Oh yea, Stasis glaive in the nightfall.
ancient gospel is actually heat
What is the biggest ship now?
Probably the skiff one from Outbreak
Eris x Drifter
ššš
I tried to respond to this but automod said it was too many characters
i haven't given them my own money since shadowkeep
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i'll play their game, i'll give them your money, but they can't get my money anymore
idk man theres a lot of cool stuff im having a ton of fun
yeah i been playin it
the absurd amount of bugs, the nonexistent customer support, the lack of qol
the removal of crafting, the backpedal on light level grind, the formulaic seasonal (episodic) format
it is what it is
my only gripe is time gating intrinsics for new exotic
i say bring everything forward, only timegate story
i dont think theres anything wrong with the episodic structure
i like it š
I'm not necessarily against timegating but 90% of the time bungie makes it like somebody has pressed the pause button
the exotic quest just randomly pausing and then bungie tweets "oh ya you gotta wait for act 2"
isnt the exotic quest fully released
nope
how
I just would prefer more innovation, try new things instead of the same format every season, but to be fair they are apparently planning to do that with the next xpac
was it just me or was revenant like extremely boring like I didnāt even log on to play it thatās how bored I was
they are trying new things ?
heresy is fun though but idk revenant just seemed like
the quest to unlock all the stuff on the exotic is timegated?
Yeah I think they go over it in this article https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/article/new_frontiers
ah ok, i thought like level wise
no i mean like they are and have been trying new things
orbit dialogue, ghostogram, decoupled activity and story progression
releasing all reprisal weapons at once
fragile mods are really cool
bungie had the dialogue stuff figured out pretty good in d1 idk why its all so weird and scuffed in d2
wern't they planning on that tho swapping from seasons to episodes? idk
cause d1 just had expansions, none of the d2 expansions had dialogue issues either
is salvations pinnacle still
yes
Stasis Slide gets my seal of approval as a good boon.
It can join Ontological Limit and the bonus DR one.
its still the most recent raid?
on the map its not listed as a pinnacle, unless it's hidden or something
strange terrain
do strikes drop catalysts at the same rate as nightfalls?
who knows
yeah but it's not pinnacle anymore
which is really stupid, the latest expansion raid should always be pinnacle till the next expansion raid
If the catalyst is earned from challenging nightfalls do that, but if from "playlist activities" then spam private crucible matches solo
but whatevs
It has never showed as pinnacle, it always has been
i'm not sure that's true, i feel like it always showed pinnacle
Theyāre just too lazy to add the little Star next to it since the launch of final shape I guess
nah fr?
It literally never has, trust
Or not anytime recently
Theyāre all pinnies though
You're sure it gives a pinnie tho
i'm certainly not testing
100% Iām 2020 now, big part was the raids
aight imma go test this rn cuz I need one more pinnie
No more raids
If skyfall is correct I won't uninstall destiny
its not showin the pinny logo for a long time
Anyone do a VOG today? Just finished the red border quest again and still nothing at Hawthorne to grab, yet itās listed as fixed as of today
Did you scroll all the way to the right?
i had a quest i think i collected on tuesday from her that gave me red
Same
Yeah I grabbed the quest, I competed it. Return to Hawthorne and nothing
salvations doesnt have the pinnacle completion thing but I am pretty sure every encounter drop is pinnacle no?
might auto gave you it
It drops when you kill atheon
yes
Thatās fine but also kinda dumb as the whole point is to use it on what you want yeah?
Plus you can buy a red from end chest
Bet bet
so you are guaranteed 2
So itās just a random red border
That makes sense, I got a random red border last week when I finished it and then again today
next raid should be on the edz
fair, i havewn't ran it in months
Theyāre pinnacles bro 
i just assume, no pinnacle symbol = no pinnacle
Shoutout to bungie for not adding a pinny icon next to the raid (you know the one thing that gives the most pinnacles) for what, 8 months now?
Keep killing it

my thought was the pinny symbol was there till GoS got refreshed but i can't confirm
Also still a random drop on Nessus that hasnāt been there in idk, months at least
are yall trolling or is it really every encounter
Mike every encounter is a pinny
i think it's the exotic mission that you do via last city
As well as the challenge chest
say ong
IF the raid is pinnacle still, every encounter will be
Still weird it shows on Nessus when thereās nothing on Nessus to launch ya know?
oh i know, my thought proicess is maybe when you finish the exotic via last city, the pinnacle goes away on nessus
I Swear on Sydney Sweeny that theyāre all pinnacles
also can't confirm
One day Iāll have the strength to stop playing this game
until then back to the same nightfall and gambit maps for the last 8 years
stop doing nightfalls bro GMs aren't even out yet
You right 
i ran a few exclusively to get queenbreaker cat
but aside from that yea lol dont run em
whos exalting they truth this weekend
Me on xbox series S
I might be
though might also shoot myself in the head while doing so
literally only gonna do it for a pve roll since I main rose anyway
chat im not on the game rn can yall tell me what the double rep is please
I'm defo going for at least some rolls if nothing else but trying out the new loot system
guys how do i get armor with high resiience and strength
whats up with rose? I've seen it alot in PVP, is it better than something like Fatebringer, or other non exotics?
if you own episode echo the armor focusing from there is really good
just make sure to follow the bucket rules or w/e they're called
ah for exotics, your only real choice is focusing at rahool
Focus them in ghost mods
how about the rule thing
it literally states that it just gives you a higher chance of finding mods with higher stats
but when i do anything thats not discipline it gives me high mobility
I mean stats are pretty rng
i am running nether solo and when i get to the room the secret quest is supposed to appear, the platfroms are no where to be found. what do i do?
Check next area
Can confirm, minor boon only get up to +3 per drop. There is no legendary +4.
mob, res, and rec are in one bucket, and int, dis, and str are in a second bucket, each bucket can have up to 34 stats so make sure w/e you're focusing doesnt have intrinsic stat focusing
will it randomly appear in every part of the nether and not just the court of oryx location?
for the smg? it can appear in each of the starting zones
i was trying to follow the khakas guide for it, but where he goes it won't appear for me.
wonderful, its random.
but its completely random, so what my team did was reload until we saw it in our zone
see, i knew i was right, Gambit > Crucible š
Happy Valentine's Day chat. I know as we are D2 players, nobody is doing anything different than normal today, but happy day regardless
So you're telling me I should treat myself by buying wedding dress skins for anime girls in gacha games to fill the void
yeah, i ain't doing that tonight.
thanks for the help though!
It loads into one of 3 areas Everytime u fly in so it's a 1/3 shot Everytime. Pretty ez
also helped that my team split up to find it faster
or you just play it and go to it
nether isn't even hard solo
i think esoteriks video on it has it spawning in only 2 of the 3 locations
is it just in normal nether?
Explore
i found it in nether: explore
oh okay
that's where you have to find a good chunk of secrets tbh
@civic kettle wanna team up in trial to suffer together ?
ive hardly done anything this episode
i think, like 70% sure
maybe ill try it tomorrow
watch esoteriks video if need be
it aint a normal super lengthy exotic quest is it?
quick, simple, fast, no talking
@placid cloud let me know when u guys down for Ice Breaker catalyst ?
alright ill just do it tomorrow then with the vid yeah
the actual mission is kinda fun
I wish streamers didn't ruin games
very short, but the stuff you have to do beforehand is what takes long, but it's a bunch of easy tasks
sorry
maybe, i have to do 3x vogs, 3x vespers, & 3x of the new dungeon & learn it still before reset š¦
you got time for all that?
better handling stability and range
also lightweight
Half the guides on new dungeon were flat out wrong which is crazy
prob not, but we'll see
remember, commune extends damage phase
for sure will have time for 3x vogs & 3x vespers
Yeah lol Especially 2nd encounter
Even over fatebrunger? Maybe Iāll try it out, I have the old rose tho. When did it get rereleased
Huh, solo expert Nether's not that bad.
Especially if you get Ontological Limit, then it's just the Nether, but you take more damage.
New content has definitely gotten easier
nahh expert nether is uber easy, tbh no reason to run the normal version
i don't think that's true per se, rather, we've gotten a lot stronger
i'd rather just complete the entire thing
Yeah I bet you would š¤®
mfw people are "why are there bees?"
Realistically, boons make clearing the whole thing easier.
You'll clear it faster with boons than without. Especially if you get Ontological Limit.
No lol
tbf my contest team thought it did too š really proved misinformation works
Now, what really shouldn't be the case is not getting an adept on full clear.
That's like a 45m run, its stupid AF
still dont understand what commune has to do with bees
...
You speak with the bees, they come to take your knees.
daily faustpost⦠she my valentine
expert nether shouldn't be taking more than 25 min
fair enough
Farming first is an adept around every 10 min
I only take so long to do the Nether because I insist of doing every single secret.
Why ...
serial looter
It's repetative and worthless
I have a problem.
At a certain point you have all the things
Also this.
Yeah same except I claimed it
Also, this triumph is just kinda here.
Episode drip feed
finally. only took forever
Literally no point in playing until act 3
Play so you don't have to crunch at the end of the episode.
kinda yeah
this
Play so you can have fun, if you don't want to play, don't play.
Then you have nothing to do
at least contest part 2 of SD is next weekend
so I'll have something to do for the day
Then don't play. Destiny 2 is not the only game.
They announced already?
I do what I want
Clearly whining is what you want.
It'll be so free everyone will have all the things they didn't before
Maybe, thereās still limited time content. Like trials tomorrow and iron banner next week
The casuals sucked the life outta the appeal
Probably not the right channel, but where can I go to ask for help with the legendary transmigration(?) quest? I more or less just started again after many years of not playing, and it's rough right now...
thanks :3
What's ur ghost mod
