💬destiny-chat

[light arrow]

But that isn't happening for month after release

[placid cloud]

say 5070 is $100 more than 4070, i'll just go with 5070 for $100 extra

or 4080

[light arrow]

those options I'm down with

5070 imo looks like the only worth 50 series card shortly after release

and the 4080 is solid

[placid cloud]

well the 4080 s i have selected is $1600 loll

[light arrow]

[placid cloud]

that ish jumped up $400, cray

[light arrow]

I would look on jawa

people will be trying to dump their 4080/90 to get a 50 series

[placid cloud]

oh i will not buy used/refurbished

unless you mean dump their inventory

[normal garden]

better devils my goat

[placid cloud]

i'm anal with electronics, i usually gotta buy it new

[light arrow]

Fair

[placid cloud]

trust issues & what not

[light arrow]

I personally haven't bough used myself at least not gpus and cpus, know people that got some steals off jawa and ebay

[placid cloud]

i bought an OEM HDD and learned my lesson

i'll never buy anything OEM ever again

[light arrow]

used storage is a different beast

worse than gpu's and cpu's

[placid cloud]

thing is, i dont think OEM is used either

i don't....really know what it means

original equipment manufacturer

but like...idk what that means

[urban compass]

it means its first party...

[placid cloud]

i just know that when it got sent to me, it didn't have its OG box, it had a generic box & was in bubble wrap

and i didnt like that

and so that ruined all OEM stuff for me for ever

[urban compass]

like for a gpu if its an OEM nvidia gpu it was manufactured at an nvidia facility

[light arrow]

companies that make parts of another product that are then rebranded as in house

Like dell taking seagate HDDs and selling desktops with their drives in them

[wind bronze]

founder's edition, i presume?

[light arrow]

zotac gpu would be a better example

founder's edition wouldn't be OEM since it's Nvidia's inhouse design of their own hardware

[placid cloud]

but isn't that what meat man explained?

"like for a gpu if its an OEM nvidia gpu it was manufactured at an nvidia facility"

so wouldn't the founders edition be OEM?

idk, ish is confusing to me

all i need to know, is it worth/safe to buy or not 😅

[urban compass]

yeah zotac would be a 3rd party manufactured gpu using nvdia design

[placid cloud]

and unfortunately, the oem HDD i bought broke, so never again

[light arrow]

probably a bad unit

[placid cloud]

now, the 7TB HDD i bought, not OEM, is working beautifully

[light arrow]

I wouldn't really say that it was OEM that made it bad

[placid cloud]

the worst part was the factory warranty or w/e it was expired before i even bought the dang thing 😢

cause i tried to like, RMA it or whatever

[light arrow]

There are a lot more technical cases of OEM products than people realize

[light arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/drifter-destiny-oof-alright-alright-alright-gif-13749019

[placid cloud]

i know i know lol but just kinda how it goes sometimes with computers, x company does 1 bad thing, you're done with em forever

my buddy bought a corsair PSU, it burned out on him, maybe his fault, either way, he won't buy corsair anything anymore lol

and corsair makes good stuff. i personally don't buy their stuff

i'm a logitech fanboy

[light arrow]

Corsair kinda overpriced anyway outside of cases and psu's

30 - 40 damn dollars for a fan

A SINGLE FAN

Not even a 140mm fan either

[urban compass]

just like anything else you buy, you pay for the branding

[placid cloud]

what i was told before was that every company is pretty much the same quality, you have to be to be competitive in the industry

[urban compass]

he prob bought a cheap psu

[light arrow]

Only for the gpu am I doing that

[placid cloud]

but what people will value is the customer service

[urban compass]

never skimp on the psu

[light arrow]

and It really only extends to me taking Nvidia over AMD 100% of the time in my main system

yeah and psu

[placid cloud]

i have an EVGA PSU, it's been nice for me

550 watt

[light arrow]

corsair rm750 still going strong

[placid cloud]

my computer is ~500-520 watts

[urban compass]

? 550 watt thats not very much

[placid cloud]

it was like 480ish, but then i upgraded my cpu & gpu

yee this PC was a budget build back in like 2018ish

16gb ddr4 for $80, was a steal

2x8

[urban compass]

you should upgrade the psu if you upgrade the gpu on that rig

[placid cloud]

oh absolutely, EVERYTHING is getting upgraded

shooting for 1000 watt PSU, but realistically might be fine with 850

[light arrow]

is anything being salvaged aside from drives?😭

[placid cloud]

but doesn't hurt to go over

[light arrow]

Bros just building a second pc

[placid cloud]

nope 🙂 the drives are staying in tbh, i'm gonna use the PC as a couch build in the living room

get a wireless keyboard/mouse

hook it up to the TV

[light arrow]

install tubi on it

[light arrow]

Gonna do the same when I build in the TR100 later this year

[placid cloud]

i paid ~$1200 back in 2017/18 for this

[light arrow]

Just in time before the pandemic pricing

[placid cloud]

but that's before i upgraded my gpu & cpu. my old GPU, the 390 started to do that artefacting bs

so i bought the 580, got 2 games for free with it

then i wanted a newer cpu, so i upgraded but uh-oh, the CPU only supports windows 10(was still using 7 at the time)

so i had to buy windows 10

very annoying

[light arrow]

Surely not for full price

[placid cloud]

surely for full price, directly from the microsoft website

i wanted to make sure it was legit legit

i got the USB stick & everything from them

[light arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-confused-gif-15712129875520007531

[placid cloud]

my buddy bought win10 on g2a & got scammed lul

[light arrow]

Bro you can claim the license with powershell...

[placid cloud]

he only spent $30 but still

[light arrow]

you dont even need a key

[placid cloud]

well the good thing is i have a legit copy on win 10 which means win 11 is always free for me i think

i can upgrade to win11, i just have to enable something on my mobo

[light arrow]

You won't need windows 11

[placid cloud]

the new pc will use win11

win10 goes out of service sometime next year i think right

[light arrow]

🤮

I'm moving to linux when it does

[placid cloud]

oh you're braver than me

[urban compass]

just do a linux buil you might learn somthing

[light arrow]

Just takes another drive and a partition to experiement

[placid cloud]

that's like asking me to swap to iphone after using android for years, can't do it!

stuck in my ways

tho linux is lit

[urban compass]

yeah but imagine being able to do whatever you want

[light arrow]

At least it's free to try out

[placid cloud]

i feel like i can already do that tho lol

[light arrow]

quite literally

[light arrow]

You really can't lol

[placid cloud]

i feel like it depends mostly on what needs to be done

ik you have more freedom on linux but like

if all i need to do is open game, launch & play it

[light arrow]

I've only tried 3 other linux OS's, it's night and day the features you have compared to windows

[light arrow]

I guess

[urban compass]

hushpuppy was goated back in the day

[light arrow]

It's easy to forget people just use their pc as a console

[placid cloud]

like i guess with linux, and i'm just guessing here, i could configure the PC to be much more optimized than windows

use ram better or something, idk

[light arrow]

and to exactly what you would use it for instead of trying to get windows to bend to your will

There's also steam OS though

[placid cloud]

like as a 3d artist it may have benefits for you to use linux too vs me

maybe there isn't any benefits tho, idk

i just wanna game, emulate games, & browse the web

[light arrow]

It does and doesn't but my experience is still relatively limited

[placid cloud]

maybe use FL studio to make beats

[light arrow]

I'd have a better grasp if I had a more dedicated linux system

Which I could probably make now

[placid cloud]

oh and be able to stream too

tho i could keep this pc to be the streaming pc

[light arrow]

still have my old 1050 ti and am3 cpu

just no drives on hand

[light arrow]

absolutely

[placid cloud]

got a leftover ps4 anywhere? 🙂

[light arrow]

or like you said, the living room console

[placid cloud]

extract it's hdd

[light arrow]

and xbox 1

[placid cloud]

ooo yeah that too

[light arrow]

Could just go to an E-waste event

[placid cloud]

im using a ps4 HDD 😅

my buddy put a SSD in his ps4, so he just gave me his ps4 HDD

like okay, leggo

[light arrow]

Storage is storage

[placid cloud]

free TB i'll take it

[light arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-20591327

[placid cloud]

was nice to see the ps4 perform a bit better too, obviously

[urban compass]

when i was in school I formatted a macbook pro into a tri boot system, using bootcamp I could run win7, snowleopardOSX or linux

[light arrow]

[blissful scaffold]

My current PC.

[light arrow]

Wonder if I should do the same with my pc and archlinux

[blissful scaffold]

GTX 1070ti

[light arrow]

We got some fossils in the chat

[placid cloud]

i can tell you don't smoke near your pc/have cats

my pc, does NOT look that clean 😅

i never clean my PC tho

i should invest in an air blower

[urban compass]

having windows on it ended up killing the macbook, the powerdraw from the gpu wasnt optimal and caused the battery to expand/explode after a few years

[blissful scaffold]

I use this to clean my pc

[urban compass]

yo I bought one of those recently to clean my gutters lol

its a makita brand tho

[light arrow]

Seperate system it is then

[urban compass]

🇯🇵 🫡

[blissful scaffold]

and this to wipe the dust that stick on my fan

[light arrow]

I'll just take a trip to micro center and pick up a 500gb drive and an am4 mobo

[urban compass]

yeah having different OS on a single system can throw some hardware for a loop if you arent careful

[blissful scaffold]

Too bad, it doesnt run as powerfull as @cyclo 5000 dollars PC

[placid cloud]

your pc was 5k? damn

[light arrow]

1800

[light arrow]

hell naw

[urban compass]

5k is some prebuilt pos pricetag

[blissful scaffold]

Dont be so humble. Your PC must worth a gold bar

[placid cloud]

there is gold in the pc!

just...not a lot

[light arrow]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qrrQPJ

[placid cloud]

not bad at all

[light arrow]

forgot psu but it was inherited from the old build

[urban compass]

I was told they burn computer scrap in some 3rd world contries to harvest the rpecious metals

[light arrow]

I can beleive it

Hell not even 3rd world countries, I'm sure chemists do it all the time

[placid cloud]

i wonder how much ram has to be melted down to get a decent amount of gold

would be neat to see

[urban compass]

had a neighbor from the Philippines told me their dad burned pc parts for a living

[placid cloud]

whewww

[light arrow]

The key really is ensuring the yielded gold you extract is pure

[blissful scaffold]

@placid cloud as this point, age is getting to me. That i rather spend for PS5 pro than a fancy PC

[urban compass]

there's also a method using acid to extract the metals but is very costly and has a ton of waste as you can imagine

[placid cloud]

that's fair, nothing wrong with that at all

if all you wanna do is game, console is great for that

[light arrow]

yeah managing the waste has to be more work than extracting the goal

[placid cloud]

just you miss out on some pc exclusives/mods

but, much less cheaters

[light arrow]

I couldn't recommend it

unless you plan to not play multiplayer games

the cost of keeping that membership eventually exceeds just paying to have a pc

[blissful scaffold]

@placid cloud i mean FPS game is a must for PC

@light arrow even woth my fossil, i will play Doom Dark Age on it

[light arrow]

💀

[placid cloud]

yeah the membership price will change things

but then i guess if you look at it from a cheater perspective too

[light arrow]

Good luck with that big dawg

[placid cloud]

some of my buddies won't play certain games with me cause the cheaters are more prevalent

like, hard cheaters not just plugin controller cheats

[sweet lark]

yessir oryx is back for the 3rd time

i ain't playing ts bruh

[normal garden]

ok

[urban compass]

when doom 2016 dropped I built my current PC based on the max rec specs for that, seems like a good time to start over

[placid cloud]

so sure, online is free on pc, but there's a cheater or 2 in every cod lobby also just ruining the funn

[sweet lark]

yk what I will be playing though?

competitive jerkmate

[normal garden]

ok

[light arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-wilds-gif-16097361606535606417

[placid cloud]

alright that's my time to head out

it's like 12 hours later he still has jerkmate on his mind

[light arrow]

You'll know where to find me

[sweet lark]

u pmo gng u dnt wanna c da dark s1de f me 😤😤😈😈

[normal garden]

im too old for this sht man

[urban compass]

species is doomed cuz all we got next gen is a bunch gooner weebs

[sweet lark]

u thnk thts n xcuse wen ur n war gngy? naw u gotta lck tf in n adapt brother

[wanton halo]

what

[normal garden]

🫃

[sweet lark]

u thnk im a blck sh33p rn but a few yrs from now eryone gon be talm liek ts (this)

[light arrow]

I'm goated

[narrow otter]

ts(thats) wht m syn dog ts(these) yns js ain on our lvl twan🤝

[wind bronze]

🔥

[sweet lark]

my twn fr i wld lowk gt n a relationship w u my brutha

[blissful scaffold]

@placid cloud i wonder if ps5 allowed mouse and keyboard for Doom Dark Ages?

[light arrow]

PC does

[dawn valve]

Does any one have a destiny recipes list I could import for stuff to get before the end of the season?

[urban compass]

? its based on your progress just link ur bungie acct

[normal garden]

Anyone here have the comic shader they're giving out for donating to charity?

just wondering what it looks like on the deep titan ornaments

[dawn valve]

You can make lists of weapons and perks you want to hunt for, I'm hoping someone already has a list so I don't have to hunt for one

or make one

[urban compass]

just make one

[dawn valve]

I'm just getting back into the game idk what I need to hunt so it'll take some research

[blissful scaffold]

Lets hope doom dark age on ps5 pro fair for FPS

[light arrow]

it will be

many larger name games are built with console in mind first

[civic kettle]

if people really do start talking like this in the future I swear I'm going to just shoot myself in the head

[urban compass]

watch "idiocracy"

[blissful scaffold]

@light arrowhttps://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/s/74iZRzSzkB

[light arrow]

Funny enough I didn't summon on my first playthrough cause I couldn't figure it out

[urban compass]

put ur red sign down

[plush fog]

I just used spirit of stag and spirit of claw in lightblade

thoughts?

[urban compass]

🥱

[blissful scaffold]

Wahoo

[wanton halo]

??? anti barrier sidearm is coming back????

return of the king

[light arrow]

i'd hog all the fun

[urban compass]

itd be so i can invade

[pliant crane]

So next week is heresy

[urban compass]

and ruin the fun

[light arrow]

Nothing a deflecting hardtear and Greatsword can't handle

[blissful scaffold]

HERESY

[pliant crane]

I’ll redownload it to see

[blissful scaffold]

Sniper anti barrier too

[light arrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1266608953580585012/1334078897280778300/caption.gif?ex=679b394b&is=6799e7cb&hm=c9e6f041dcac8cf6bb46895737762247db41326e641c22d823a305129ecfbaed&

[light arrow]

Horde shuttle should be a strand fragment

[charred yacht]

scintillation gamers your day comes soon

[light arrow]

unstoppable glaive👏

[charred yacht]

I didnt even realize but I guess you can do the getaway + bleakwatcher thing with the new arc aspect too

[light arrow]

Icebreaker and Rake angle it is

[charred yacht]

unstoppable glaive is back?? we are truly blessed

[light arrow]

mask of fealty, icebreaker, rake angle, oh yea

[plush fog]

barrier side arm is making me bricked up can’t lie

[charred yacht]

sidearms like the only primaries with antichamp kinda wacky

[light arrow]

it'll be fine

[charred yacht]

I just meant first time they've ever done this its neat imo

[light arrow]

I could've sworn there was an artifact like this before but I could be wrong

also unstopable mythoclast is back

[charred yacht]

these do activities in a patrol zone seasonal challenges are always so garbage man

[fervent veldt]

ong

[charred yacht]

25 lost sectors wahoo

[fervent veldt]

tinashas about to go hard

[fervent veldt]

fr, the cosmodrome is the worst one by far

[light arrow]

Tinasha's, Rake Angle, and Critical Anomaly

[wanton halo]

barrier sidearm got me bugging out

[blissful scaffold]

There are act 2 and 3 as well

[blissful scaffold]

Tina plz

[light arrow]

I'll be using critical anomaly

[charred yacht]

rocket sidearms about to do no damage to champs tho

[light arrow]

I take any excuse I can get to use snipers

[blissful scaffold]

FYI, there is Void Rocket Sidearm as well

Please return in New Dungeon

[light arrow]

That's a big sidearm

[fervent veldt]

no one is using a rocket sidearm to kill a champ

its for red / orange bars

[fervent veldt]

i dont have that but ill be using supremacy 🤤🤤🤤

[blissful scaffold]

Move over. Preadtyh Revenge gonna be goat

[fervent veldt]

actually, would cloud strike even be decent in a gm

[charred yacht]

aoe stuff getting big nerfs too

[normal garden]

ah yes, let the bolt action rifle return with the dungeon set in a pyramid

[fervent veldt]

ok

[charred yacht]

ok

[fervent veldt]

its getting a direct impact buff tho

so rocket sidearms are still fine

[blissful scaffold]

PYRAMID BOLT ACTION RIFLE?

[sour ermine]

nah

[fervent veldt]

y

[sour ermine]

lot of champs got weird crits to hit

and if you're not chaining headshots what's the point of cloudstrike

[fervent veldt]

oh yah

ill give it a shot anyways

[wanton halo]

please god no i hate nlb

thank god nobody is asking for universal remote that thing was actually horrible

[urban compass]

evry1 thinks it will be supercell for some reason

[wanton halo]

??? why

why do we even want reprised exotics i want something new and unique

and we have riskrunner anyway

[dusky wigeon]

goodnight, goodmorning

[blissful scaffold]

@dusky wigeon seen the new ?

[dusky wigeon]

the new what

[wanton halo]

the new

[blissful scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/live/hMKjQaJdZvg?feature=shared

[worn pilot]

arms so tired @_@

is heresy any good

[dusky wigeon]

oh

I haven't touched d2 since September

[blissful scaffold]

[weary karma]

anyone tried osmio/swarmers with slayers fang? its siiick

[fervent veldt]

🛌

[worn pilot]

ive only touched destiny since dropping it in nov

[charred yacht]

bruh neomuna is soooo buggy wtf i didnt know it was like this

i heard it was bad but lool

[fervent veldt]

did you guys get new bento quests or nah

[weary karma]

if you think neunumas buggy wait till you need teh catalyst for icebreaker

[charred yacht]

I got the icebreaker cata 😎

[weary karma]

well, uhm, like, uuh

[charred yacht]

I dont see any new ones

[fervent veldt]

strange

the past is prologue box at drifter is blinking

[charred yacht]

yeah bungie moment idk

[fervent veldt]

plus weren't we supposed to get new quests

[charred yacht]

the thing has been blinking the whole event

[fervent veldt]

functioning video game 🤗

[charred yacht]

at least for me

[fervent veldt]

multi billion dollar company btw

[charred yacht]

well bungie has seen better days

[wanton halo]

did xur not give out the last ones?

and yeah its been blinking for me too

[charred yacht]

I kinda expect half of everything to be buggy at this point

[fervent veldt]

yeah he did, and i finished them

i was just assuming that we would get new ones this reset

oh well

i shouldve bought cloudstrike 🥲

[charred yacht]

empire hunts 😎

[fervent veldt]

empire hunt mines 🔥

[sour ermine]

i love doing empire hunts on normal on repeat cuz high difficulties don't have higher drop chances

[merry ferry]

why did my msg get deleted?^^

[normal garden]

Too long

[merry ferry]

[fervent veldt]

burgers in contest of elders 💔

[buoyant moon]

pulled

[fervent veldt]

warlock was running a scout doing nothing

[untold vessel]

Anyone able to give advice on best XP grind for this week?

Looking to get about 30 levels on the Battle Pass, to unlock the Catalyst for the Seasonal GL. Currently about 110.

[ripe glade]

I will say this is one of the sicker looking exotics

[charred yacht]

surely it wont be bad

[sour ermine]

hopefully it's actually good and not a wasted cool design 🙏

[charred yacht]

just do seasonal challenges

[sour ermine]

seasonal challenges, claim while with someone in the fireteam for bonus xp

[untold vessel]

Thanks guys

[frigid hatch]

aint even wrong, got the true ending of the game and everything is just that lmao

[blissful scaffold]

@frigid hatch

[hasty oyster]

🧊

No one is doing anything

[clever river]

is there a point in farming any new amour with the new rework comming?

[frigid hatch]

YES

[frigid hatch]

the rework is coming in the next expansion, my duder

[clever river]

oh soo i got awhile ightt thx

[hallow wasp]

there is not

[normal garden]

still no point farming armor

[twilit pewter]

real

[swift berry]

just waiting for "The Witness is Back" now

[narrow otter]

only thing you should be farming is gos

[sturdy jacinth]

What's the armor rework, in short?

[shy topaz]

looking so cool

[fervent veldt]

somewhat like the system in d1

somewhat

[sturdy jacinth]

I don't remember how it worked then

[sturdy jacinth]

What's the rework changing?

[sour ermine]

stat distribution on armor, armor sets now grant bonuses, class items give stats, stats over 100 actually do something and more we don't know

[sturdy jacinth]

Thanks

[coarse burrow]

ive ran into them

[blissful scaffold]

Pic please

[coarse burrow]

didnt take a screenshot 😦

plus they bagged me

[echo trellis]

u should bag me

[blissful scaffold]

😔

[twilit pewter]

erm

[peak lion]

log off

[echo trellis]

:selfie1:
:selfie2:

[peak lion]

NO!!!

[normal garden]

keen to do a raid in like an hour or 2 nenus

[peak lion]

no ill be at work + no raids worth doing until 4th...

[normal garden]

yeah but spoils for raid adepts

[peak lion]

[normal garden]

was just gonna be vog and ron, will take like an hour tops

[blissful scaffold]

Nenus

[peak lion]

I work in 30 minutes lol

[normal garden]

gg

[blissful scaffold]

Where i am right now is Europa itseft

I need Stasis to cope me

[twilit pewter]

what

[lone coral]

i have a question im 2010 light if i join someone whos 2030+ ill be 2025 right? is that high enough for a gm?

[twilit pewter]

yes

[sour ermine]

yes, GM light cap right now is 2020

[lone coral]

k thanks you

[worthy bay]

im glad heresy is less pve content because pve players dont know how to used a mouse and keyboard

[analog sorrel]

Was that even a sentence

[lone coral]

???

[analog sorrel]

Like TF does that even mean

[balmy mauve]

excision cant be made

2 hours in queue

this game..

[wanton halo]

here’s not enough people even playing it

[hallow wasp]

the less pve content there is the more pve players move to pvp bro

[balmy mauve]

they ask me to finish a campaign that doesnt find enough players in hour

[analog sorrel]

Pve seems to have a bunch of stuff and at least it's better than what we got in the start of the season like in revenant and echo

[hallow wasp]

i cba about pve

[analog sorrel]

That's fair

[hallow wasp]

but if you want less pve players in pvp then you dont ask them to stop doing pve content xd

[analog sorrel]

Exactly I don't get it really

I quit pvp because it got too cringe now I play pve

[noble wasp]

Can you cheese salv edge memento like garden?

[blissful scaffold]

I need Stasis to make me immnue to the cold

[blissful scaffold]

Really ? Join me when i call you so we can so Excision

[willow grotto]

who else is excited for season of the Mythoclast 2?

[wanton halo]

me can’t wait

[blissful scaffold]

New pfp !

@willow grotto

[willow grotto]

yosh, ty for noticing~

i have my loadout more than locked and loaded now lol

the IB sidearm with chill clip, vex mythoclast and the ol reliable cataclysmic

[waxen marten]

Mfw gls will still clear linears

[analog sorrel]

Sad but very true

Snipers unfortunately even with darcii might clear lfr

[waxen marten]

Linears will be good for contest

[willow grotto]

probably, but at least using linears now won't feel like hitting them with wet noodles

[waxen marten]

Since they’re easy to use and the artifact helps but for dmg rotations they just blow

[willow grotto]

(right now, cataclysmic is hitting for less than vex's linear mode ffs)

[analog sorrel]

Depends on the boss like if we get another puppeteer lfr is a rip

[waxen marten]

They’ll be like how grand overture is rn

Easy to use and consistent damage

I disagree , lfr would be very good against a boss like puppeteer in a contest setting

[willow grotto]

something crazy to me is that LFR's peaked with Cataclysmic, and unless we get something like FTTC + Triple Tap or FTTC + Rewind, it'll stay that way

[analog sorrel]

I mean calling lfr easy to use in the same instance as overture is ehh

[waxen marten]

Linears are point and click

[willow grotto]

lfr's IN CONCEPT are easy to use, they're point and shoot

but they're precision weapons, sooo

[analog sorrel]

Lfr still needs headshots but overture doesn't need anything like that

[waxen marten]

Don’t really need a dmg rotation, just need to proc bns every once in awhile

[analog sorrel]

I mean ig but in contest you'd probably need a damage rotation

[waxen marten]

No

[willow grotto]

i wonder how much particle reconstruction will be, though

[waxen marten]

You don’t really go for damage rotations in contest. You just use whatever is the most consistent and ease of use honestly

[analog sorrel]

20% probably

[willow grotto]

if it's 20%, that'd be a 30% total for linears this season

[waxen marten]

Like overture for example , why try using a dmg rotation when you could sit in a well and point and click

[analog sorrel]

I mean I disagree but eh

[waxen marten]

Idk all I did was use overture and it was the most free clear

[wanton halo]

Oh man

guess i’m taking out wishes linear

[blissful scaffold]

@willow grotto

[analog sorrel]

I just used the gl with that rotation and cleared wasn't hard

[wanton halo]

Or vows

[hallow wasp]

scintillation gameplay

[wanton halo]

can’t wait for the new artifact

[analog sorrel]

Scint with wish fusion void area denial gl

[willow grotto]

i used to run a rotation with icebreaker and the dungeon GL. It was very strong, but it was very easy to miss a grenade, and even easier to straight up hit yourself with a nade cuz a teammate moved 2 inches

[wanton halo]

this seasons artifact for champ mods is so ass

[waxen marten]

Watch queen breaker be good

[blissful scaffold]

I agree

[wanton halo]

i nearly exploded seeing barrier sniper AND sidearm

[blissful scaffold]

Oh right that linear got buff

[willow grotto]

just get the iron banner sidearm with chill clip, that alone takes care of 2 champion types, 3 if you're patient

[wanton halo]

i already did

[willow grotto]

if you have vex mythoclast, well gg, that's your loadout now

[hallow wasp]

just need a barrier primary

[analog sorrel]

Ngl this season most people just used subclass related affects like ignite freeze slow

[wanton halo]

ehhh yeah i got vex

[hallow wasp]

radiant is also anti barrier

[wanton halo]

but i want to be doing arc builds

[waxen marten]

Arc and void are gonna be fun

[opal escarp]

the gameplay part was meh shown by dev stream.

[waxen marten]

Very interesting things be added to the game

[wanton halo]

i’m definitely using that new trace rifle

[willow grotto]

the coldheart geomag build may just go crazy

[analog sorrel]

Hence why I said subclass related and just mentioned 3 that went without saying

[willow grotto]

7% super from an ionic trace is huge

[wanton halo]

that too

[waxen marten]

Titan getting nerfed is so upsetting tbh

Prob the most fun build ever

[analog sorrel]

It's not significant

Most of the damage is an ignition

[willow grotto]

didn't they just nerf the damage of the wave itself?

[opal escarp]

Well, ignition part of it will still be very strong.

[analog sorrel]

It is nerfed by 8% maybe 10

[hallow wasp]

oh no the bis tier 0 class for all content in whole game got nerfed, woe is me

[willow grotto]

if you throw the consecration at a group, the damage should still be quite high from all the ignitions stacking together

[wanton halo]

it’s a flat 30% decrease across the board to consecration dmg

[quaint fog]

^

[analog sorrel]

It's not

[wanton halo]

kinda bs honestly

[waxen marten]

Only time I enjoyed playing titan icl

[wanton halo]

titan gets 2 seasons then gets nerfed

that’s how it’s been for awhile 😭

[analog sorrel]

The slam does 30k the ignition does 130k+

[hallow wasp]

titan has had years dawg

[wanton halo]

solar got nerfed, strand got nerfed, pris is getting nerfed, hoil arc got nerfed

[willow grotto]

doesn't help that consecration was peak during a dungeon race where one boss was specially weak vs ignitions

[quaint fog]

I might get the vespers host title bro

[wanton halo]

everything good titan has gets nerfed into oblivion

[waxen marten]

Strand titan is still broken asf

[hallow wasp]

titans everything getting nerfed also means titan everything has been strong constantly

[analog sorrel]

Everyone used stasis anyway

[wanton halo]

no reason to use it over pris

[analog sorrel]

Mono Titan is an L

[wanton halo]

yeah i doubt arc titan is making a comeback

[analog sorrel]

It always will be pris is literally the best for titan

[hallow wasp]

it doesn't deserve to

[wanton halo]

exactly

[hallow wasp]

prismatic everything is bis because of transc

[waxen marten]

In lowmans you use strand titan cuz grapple damage is just free

[quaint fog]

Did u not like the fact that two of the classes had the same BOLT aspect

[analog sorrel]

Not everything

[quaint fog]

Original

[wanton halo]

very original

[opal escarp]

Personally, all 3 characters should have their own super that's strongest then work their way towards making other roaming supers more meaningful and a reason to use them

[analog sorrel]

Warlock void base is really strong same with solar

[quaint fog]

Idk imo I think hunters huge damage super is either tether or golden gun

[waxen marten]

Solar warlock is easily the best subclass in warlock

[opal escarp]

Spectral blades I'm looking at you cough cough no reason to use you

[willow grotto]

certain builds do work better with mono sub, specially with warlock

[waxen marten]

And I don’t even think it’s close bc of how versatile it is

[wanton halo]

back in my day it was star eater gathering storm

[quaint fog]

The good times

[analog sorrel]

I mean with amplified giving dr arc lock might cook a bit

[opal escarp]

Back in my day it was Titan's arc grenade in D1 wrecking PvP

[waxen marten]

Prismatic ruined the game Icl

[quaint fog]

U think?

[hallow wasp]

word

[wanton halo]

nah hunter will be

[analog sorrel]

All 3 will be

[wanton halo]

gifted convictions stacking dr and amplified

[waxen marten]

Made a lot of content a push over when it already has been a push over

[hallow wasp]

transcendence is the problem imo, remove it and prism is a decent idea

[quaint fog]

Hunters new void aspect is pretty cool lowkey

[analog sorrel]

Titan with cons knockout

[wanton halo]

pair that with a good jolting gun

[analog sorrel]

Fealty cooks too

[hallow wasp]

we had no reason to get a raw bonus to all stats all at once mode just for being prismatic subclass

[wanton halo]

honestly i’ve used it a bit, it seems mediocre

[quaint fog]

I personally like prismatic

[waxen marten]

Prismatic is super fun but it’s so overtuned

[analog sorrel]

Use it in gms

[hallow wasp]

I'd like prismatic more without transcendence

[wanton halo]

i refuse to play any gms with that bs weapon modifier

[quaint fog]

But prismatic is so OP that the other supers just feel mere lack eth

[opal escarp]

I think the light subclasses being able to have their own way of transcending would be cool

[analog sorrel]

TF you talking about

[wanton halo]

weapon strip where you do less damage

[quaint fog]

The weapon modifier that decreases damage

[wanton halo]

whatever it’s called

[analog sorrel]

That's literally a damage buff play around the modifier

[wanton halo]

it’s genuinely so ahh

[analog sorrel]

Use acrius

[wanton halo]

i’d rather play with match game 💀

[opal escarp]

When I seen the gameplay I was like "oh another reskin"

[analog sorrel]

The modifiers aren't bad play around them

[waxen marten]

Womp womp

[quaint fog]

They keep using reused textures

[wanton halo]

that’s pretty much all of destiny

[waxen marten]

The game is almost 10 years old

[wanton halo]

reused assets textures and gun models

[analog sorrel]

Literally the entirety of the newest dungeon is reused assets

[hallow wasp]

ace of spades is a reused asset dawg, since d1

[wanton halo]

dsc 2

[quaint fog]

The only thing I was excited for was the new hunter aspect and the gun you get from season pass

[analog sorrel]

DSC but better

[wanton halo]

i have a feeling this new dungeon is gonna be reskinned vow 💀

[waxen marten]

Nah

[quaint fog]

💀 imagine

[waxen marten]

I think it’s gonna be sick

[wanton halo]

be prepared for disappointment

[waxen marten]

Vespers was sick , so I have high expectations

[quaint fog]

If it’s like vespers host, where they actually make it pretty cool and new bosses, then yeah

[waxen marten]

No matter the state of the game Bungie DNR cooks

[hallow wasp]

it's gonna be skipped in favor of playing comp for the bxr frame pulse

[analog sorrel]

Vespers was good after 2nd encounter

[quaint fog]

It was good from first encounter, second encounter was meh, third encounter was fun

[analog sorrel]

First was mid

2nd was mid final was fun

[waxen marten]

First was awesome on contest

[quaint fog]

It was pretty fun on contest

[waxen marten]

Off contest ehh

[analog sorrel]

It was mid after

[hallow wasp]

vespers is good until the boss has gorillion million oneshot lightning strikes so playing the game is illegal

[analog sorrel]

The oneshot in question

[waxen marten]

The well of radiance in question

[quaint fog]

That’s where you go to the secret spot that prevents you from getting hurt

[analog sorrel]

It doesn't 1 shot if you jump slightly

[quaint fog]

And use well of radiance

[waxen marten]

I just sat in the box towards the front , well and used healing autos

[analog sorrel]

It doesn't 1 shot at all

[waxen marten]

And we survived on contest easily

[quaint fog]

It was pretty annoying on contest mode

[hallow wasp]

it's still annoying

[quaint fog]

Eh I don’t find it annoying as much as it was on contest mode

[analog sorrel]

The only thing that was annoying on contest was the tight damage

[waxen marten]

Annoying yeah but it wasn’t too bad after you knew how to actually survive

Grand overture made it not tight

[quaint fog]

Contest mode really made it annoying cause u had 3 tries to kill the boss

[hallow wasp]

I know how to actually survive, it's still bad

[quaint fog]

Non contest doesn’t make it that much annoying to deal with

Because ur not time gated

[waxen marten]

I actually did anarchy titan on my first contest clear 😭

[analog sorrel]

Grand overture MFS when they orbit to get ammo back

[waxen marten]

Nah the orbit thing was lame

To get the token too like nahhhhh

[hallow wasp]

oh yeah like me queue dungeons so I can do endless dps phases because no time limit xd

[quaint fog]

It did help a ton of people though

[waxen marten]

It was corny

[hallow wasp]

I'm surely not there to get done and go elsewhere after

[waxen marten]

But hey it is what it is

[wanton halo]

i didn’t even know you could do that what 😭

[quaint fog]

Then don’t do the dungeon?

[quaint fog]

Yeah u could leave, enter kings fall and then teleport back to your team

And you’d have ur ammo and token back

[hallow wasp]

"don't do the dungeon if you're going to clear it"

[wanton halo]

that’s insane

[waxen marten]

For ammo you can just aeon / ceno or use the seasonal GL

[analog sorrel]

If Bungie didn't mess up bans 80% of people wouldn't have cleared 2nd

[waxen marten]

Wdym

[quaint fog]

What

[analog sorrel]

Tether and stasis titan

And wardcliff

[waxen marten]

Oh like what was disabled

[quaint fog]

Our team used none of those guns/supers

[analog sorrel]

Remember that how it was supposed to be banned but wasn't

[wanton halo]

Yeahh lmao

[waxen marten]

Well using those would usually give you error code

[wanton halo]

i just used tcrash and consecration with tractor cannon

[quaint fog]

if u used tether, it wouldn’t give u ur super

[analog sorrel]

It actually didn't very rarely did it happen

[waxen marten]

Warcliff errorcoded

[quaint fog]

You can use it but u just won’t be able to use the super itself

Wardcliff would cause error codes and make u leave the dungeon

[waxen marten]

Guitar 🎸

[blissful scaffold]

@quaint fog

[analog sorrel]

We did wardcliff a second run and it didn't error code at all

[waxen marten]

On contest?

[analog sorrel]

Yea

[quaint fog]

Is this a gun that was already in the game previously

[analog sorrel]

Yes

[quaint fog]

Interesting, many teams was facing error codes

[analog sorrel]

It was the best hand cannon in the game for pvp many moons ago still kinda is

[quaint fog]

Eh, idk, I wish they’d make more new guns then use older ones

[analog sorrel]

Weird I saw the opposite I helped people through 2nd just joining random groups and told them just put it on idk

[hallow wasp]

word

[analog sorrel]

Pali needed to be brought back

[quaint fog]

I think my team used parasite instead of wardcliff

[hallow wasp]

palindrome is also a d1 gun

[analog sorrel]

It's iconic

[hallow wasp]

no it didnt

[quaint fog]

It didn’t need to be brought back lol

They could have made diff new guns

[waxen marten]

Well they’re going to make new weapons

[hallow wasp]

seemingly not

[waxen marten]

With the seasonal stuff

[analog sorrel]

People like the stuff they are use to I see no problem with Pali being brought back

[hallow wasp]

it's boring

[quaint fog]

Because using older gun retextures isn’t all that amazing

Ur basically getting a gun that’s already been in the game before

That doesn’t make it fun

[analog sorrel]

It's a hand cannon it's literally all the same

[hallow wasp]

the "iconic" aka boring guns they bring back get top tier perks always

[analog sorrel]

Not always

[hallow wasp]

while the actually cool/unique designs get dogwater perks

[analog sorrel]

Look at recluse

[hallow wasp]

chroma rush best roll is subsistence kt and it's origin trait wants you to reload

[analog sorrel]

That gun got brought bac insta dismantle

[quaint fog]

Literally one of the two guns I looked forward to

[analog sorrel]

It's hazard of the cast reskined no way guys Bungie not original

[hallow wasp]

mad?

[quaint fog]

I just want Bungie to use textures that aren’t just reused content from prior activities/guns/armor

[hallow wasp]

and if they're gonna bring something back bring back cool designs and not palindrome for the fourth time

we still haven't gotten steelfeather repeater back

[quaint fog]

It’s coming back for the fourth time? 💀

[analog sorrel]

I think it's the 3rd time

[quaint fog]

Yeah, that isn’t excitable at all bruh

Wow guys look it’s the same gun we got the last time and the other time before that

[hallow wasp]

I mean it was in d1, I imagine it got a rerun in d1 at some point, then twice now in d2

[analog sorrel]

More people know palindrome than steelfeather

[hallow wasp]

like the age of triumphs whatever in d1 probably had it

[analog sorrel]

It didn't

[quaint fog]

So why not get us steelfeather so more people know that gun?

[hallow wasp]

okay and who asked for the popularity contest

[willow grotto]

i wonder why steelfeather didn't return with echoes

[hallow wasp]

steelfeather is a way cooler model

[hallow wasp]

because Bungie bad or something there's really no good reason

[analog sorrel]

More people would be excited for it to come back

[hallow wasp]

I was excited when I saw the other season 9 weapons be back but no steelfeather so sucked

[willow grotto]

sadge

[hallow wasp]

who's excited for palindrome

[quaint fog]

Idk no one really seemed to “care” for it when it appeared on the screen on the twitch stream

[analog sorrel]

Bungie bringing back guns people know and love hence the reason Pali coming back

[hallow wasp]

the only reason people cared about it in d2 is because it stat powercreeps other 140s at the time

[analog sorrel]

A lot of people actually because they never got one or never got a good one

[quaint fog]

I don’t think I’ve heard of anyone talking about palindrome before

[hallow wasp]

who loves palindrome

[willow grotto]

people loved pali for being one of the few good void HC, but now it's arc :/

[hallow wasp]

I know aztecross does but he doesn't count

[hallow wasp]

this also applies to steelfeather because it's original run had no good rolls, so give it a return with solid perks

[quaint fog]

Literally

[hallow wasp]

instead of trying to do palindrome, which already had it's run, agaon

[analog sorrel]

None of those guns had good rolls really

[quaint fog]

If palindrome can get a rework so can steelfeather

[hallow wasp]

yeah so give them

?xd what is hard to get here

[analog sorrel]

They did

[hallow wasp]

not steelfeather

[quaint fog]

😭

[analog sorrel]

The only gun not in the lineup boohoo

[hallow wasp]

p sure there were more season 9 guns

but also how does that change anything

it's the gun I want back, why is it suddenly fine to exclude it xd?

[quaint fog]

No you can only be excited about palindrome

[hallow wasp]

true, arc palindrome is my new wife

[analog sorrel]

I mean I wanted martyrs to come back and if it didn't I wouldn't care

[brazen fern]

palinyawn

[hallow wasp]

good for you?

[quaint fog]

No one asked for palindrome

[willow grotto]

line in the sand was a weapon i was excited for, but then i realized it didn't hve triple tap or fttc

[analog sorrel]

Pali is a gun people wanted back

[hallow wasp]

yah

[brazen fern]

people excited over a mid void hc

[hallow wasp]

who?

[quaint fog]

I don’t remember seeing anyone be excited for that gun dude

[hallow wasp]

it's arc now

[brazen fern]

so even worse gg

[analog sorrel]

It wasn't mid before

[quaint fog]

“People wanted it back” who

[brazen fern]

never change people

[hallow wasp]

the only reason d2 people liked pali is because it was given bloated stats for pvp

[brazen fern]

i have no idea

[quaint fog]

Now it’s arc

[hallow wasp]

now there are better pvp hcs

ppl won't swap off rose magically

[quaint fog]

EXACTLY bro i cant

[brazen fern]

like nobodys ever using that garbage in pve 😭

arc hc, might as well throw

[analog sorrel]

Rose has been brought back how many times 3 times as well did it get re reprised again I forgor

[quaint fog]

It’s arc now as well

[hallow wasp]

if ppl want a pve hc then fatebringer is coming back this same season

and is craftable (?)

[brazen fern]

you arent using an hc in the kinetic slot icl

[willow grotto]

bruh

[quaint fog]

Yappington

[willow grotto]

it was barely a line x.x

[analog sorrel]

2 pve Hcs exist zaoulis and Luna's

[brazen fern]

like you really arent

[hallow wasp]

truer

[brazen fern]

and both of those are actually good

[quaint fog]

Those are good…

[analog sorrel]

Because they are solar

[willow grotto]

i was saying that there aren't many void 140's, you got ancient gospel which just got reprised and exhalted truth (eww, trials)

[brazen fern]

both are heal clip incan which is only like the best perk combo on a primary in the game

[hallow wasp]

yah just keep palindrome void

[willow grotto]

your only other options were pali, which was retired, or kindled orchid if you still had yours from season 5

[analog sorrel]

That's why people wanted Pali but they made it arc

[brazen fern]

i have my kindled orchid with outlaw rampage

[analog sorrel]

Rampage KC moment

[brazen fern]

havent used it since shadowkeep

[quaint fog]

Why they can’t just remake wotm atp is beyond me

Let’s use retextures of guns and armor but no no no about old raids

[brazen fern]

this is the last thing they should be doing with how broken the game is 😭 😭

[hallow wasp]

there's always the void 180 handcannons guys

[willow grotto]

oh yeah, and the only perk exalted truth has related to void, at all, is repulsor brace

[analog sorrel]

Because it won't work if the hardware is what they said

[quaint fog]

Bring back leviathan too while they are at it

[analog sorrel]

Like they said wotm will literally break the game

[wanton halo]

One of the lead devs said they had better stuff to work on

priorities

[quaint fog]

Retextures

[hallow wasp]

ghost primus autorifle please bungie

[brazen fern]

priorities..

[quaint fog]

I understand

[analog sorrel]

Also will break the game

[wanton halo]

frontiers

[willow grotto]

with destab rounds getting buffed, getting repulsor + destab on a returning palindrome would've been huge

but alas, we're stuck with another voltshot weapon

[brazen fern]

hmmmm

[quaint fog]

Idk, after seeing yesterdays stream, idk if I should be concerned for frontiers

[wanton halo]

get it on ancient gospel

[hallow wasp]

you should

[willow grotto]

doing garden

[wanton halo]

Or recluse

[brazen fern]

if you really want a voltshot hc just use nation of beasts

[wanton halo]

voltshot is kinda ahh

[brazen fern]

at least it looks cool

[quaint fog]

They had a chance to actually make d2 be like REALLY GOOD and chose to use old textures for stuff and now I’m just like ehhh

[analog sorrel]

The only weapon I want from garden is the pulse and I'm lazy so me no wanna do gos

[wanton halo]

just use jolting feedback in this meta

[brazen fern]

dogpoo unless indebted kindness

[wanton halo]

the game needs a whole ass new engine bro

[hallow wasp]

reckless oracle auto is peak void weapon too

[brazen fern]

just use jolting on any gun

[wanton halo]

it’s on the same engine as halo reach

[quaint fog]

It does but Bungie won’t do that

Let Sony take over

[wanton halo]

a 15 year old engine 💀

[hallow wasp]

let Sony take over

[analog sorrel]

Takes the place of the bis gl

[brazen fern]

i mean that goes for any kind of engine

[hallow wasp]

who

[brazen fern]

unreal is like a billion years old

[quaint fog]

At least unreal actually works well

[analog sorrel]

We love attrition orbs demo vs baton

[hallow wasp]

asked

[wanton halo]

unreal engine gets revamped and updates and new versions

[quaint fog]

^

[brazen fern]

and gets updated

[willow grotto]

...does unreal work well?

[wanton halo]

d2 a engine is poor

[quaint fog]

Compared to the d2 engine, yes

[hallow wasp]

no

[quaint fog]

If we talking in general, hit or miss

[willow grotto]

every thing i've heard about unreal is that it's a nightmare to optimize for decent performance

[brazen fern]

unreal is poopoo

[hallow wasp]

I love every game being 100gb plus and magically not working properly on random gpus and cpus

[brazen fern]

it looks good, but it runs like garbage

[analog sorrel]

It's great but Bungie would need to build destiny from the ground up they can't just port the files over

[hallow wasp]

ninja gaiden 2 remaster is on unreal and 82 gigs btw

[quaint fog]

They could be doing that behind the scenes

[smoky heart]

whats the best way to farm reflective flakes?

[willow grotto]

gotta love those 140 gigs of monster hunter wilds, and the beta running like ass

[analog sorrel]

That's the thing they can't

[brazen fern]

d2 engine is just a case of huge tech debt

[hallow wasp]

no one wants them to, make a new game

[brazen fern]

which will need lots of rewriting

[wanton halo]

guys i’m gonna go for my comp sci bachelors and work for bungie surely

[hallow wasp]

we just talked about not wanting reused old assets dawg

[quaint fog]

Just make a d3 on a new engine, boom

[wanton halo]

ladies step back… i’ll save this game 👩🏼‍❤️‍💋‍👩🏻

[hallow wasp]

make a new game for the first time in a decade come on chief

[analog sorrel]

Uninstall

[quaint fog]

Rude

[wanton halo]

assuming bungie is still in business in the next 4 years

[brazen fern]

me next year getting my bachelors in comp bio :horror:

[willow grotto]

D3 doesn't solve the core issue with destiny, it just postpones it

[quaint fog]

Alpha can save us

[analog sorrel]

Frontiers

[hallow wasp]

how many anime characters will it take

[quaint fog]

Frontiers is not going to save d2

[hallow wasp]

trash

[brazen fern]

yeah man i will integrate neuralink into the engine

[wanton halo]

it doesn’t matter the amount

[analog sorrel]

They made that therefore new game

[quaint fog]

You got it man I believe in you

[willow grotto]

i do wonder how tf did they land a star wars colab doe

[hallow wasp]

actually brainwashed I stg

[wanton halo]

Idk genuinely

[brazen fern]

goofy ass stormtroopers

[quaint fog]

It’s the only collab that looks like the actual characters

[hallow wasp]

star wars is also on a down swing so probably not the most expensive/difficult

[brazen fern]

like are we real

[analog sorrel]

Not brainwashed if they literally made frontiers alongside a co developer

[hallow wasp]

brainwashed

[brazen fern]

like disney wouldnt charge them out the wazoo for something like this

[quaint fog]

Are we talking about the mobile game

[wanton halo]

guys is the EU nice

[hallow wasp]

yes

[wanton halo]

my country is run by fascists

[quaint fog]

Yeah

[brazen fern]

very 🤤

[analog sorrel]

Mobile/PC game yes

[wanton halo]

i’d rather die than live here anymore bruh

[quaint fog]

That mobile game is just a gacha game

[brazen fern]

its never too late

[wanton halo]

[quaint fog]

🙏 gacha

[analog sorrel]

Every mobile game is a gatcha game wym

[wanton halo]

if it was on pc i’d play it

[willow grotto]

the EU is nice, but it's also ran by people that prefer to mine whole countries for coal than boil water with magic green rocks

[analog sorrel]

Is it not?

[wanton halo]

i don’t think so

[brazen fern]

people probably play it on bluestacks on pc

if its even on android, idk

[willow grotto]

unless you go to France, those people have a ton of nuclear power

[wanton halo]

true

[analog sorrel]

Ah that's probably right

[quaint fog]

It’s on android and iPhone

[wanton halo]

I had my eyes on germany

[brazen fern]

i remember the closed alpha being ios exclusive

[wanton halo]

I’m not sure how nice it is there though

[brazen fern]

thats why i was asking

[quaint fog]

But people barely talk about the game bc it has lack of popularity same with TFD

[brazen fern]

i live here

[willow grotto]

i've heard it's pretty strict when admitting new residents, not sure if that's true

[brazen fern]

so long as you stray far from some problem areas, its very nice

[wanton halo]

is your countries leaders stripping 🏳️‍⚧️ people of all their rights yet

[quaint fog]

Let me go to Germany and go to university

[wanton halo]

[brazen fern]

seems chill here, people dont really care tbh

[quaint fog]

I shall learn the German language

[wanton halo]

Aight 😭

[finite urchin]

are you sure thats not na?

[wanton halo]

that’s 100% na

why do you think i’m asking LOL

[finite urchin]

isn't that YOUR country

[quaint fog]

Man… America is just

[brazen fern]

@wanton halo its definitely nowhere near as politicized as in the us

[quaint fog]

No comment

[brazen fern]

like people here genuinely dont care that much

[quaint fog]

I hate living in the uk

[brazen fern]

is that supposed to be positive or negative 😭

[echo trellis]

uk

[quaint fog]

It’s a negative cause America is having its own issues that the uk news keeps covering for some reason

We hear about it everyday

[brazen fern]

the thing i hate the most about this country is the ungodly bureaucracy

like actually just kill me

[analog sorrel]

Chat I'm leaving the US

[quaint fog]

Is it like cheaper in Germany

[analog sorrel]

It's becoming facist

[brazen fern]

uhhh things are pretty affordable

[analog sorrel]

[brazen fern]

inflation hasnt really hit that hard for years

[finite urchin]

yes insanely affordable

[brazen fern]

since covid

[quaint fog]

Darn, I should move there

[finite urchin]

u can live easily anywhere thats not murica

[brazen fern]

also you have all sorts of workers and consumer rights/protections here

[quaint fog]

Idk I’m losing hope where I am

[analog sorrel]

Costa rica

You can live comfortably on 15 bucks an hour

[brazen fern]

if you are gonna move here, stay away from some of the larger cities if you can

[quaint fog]

It probably be pretty cool if I can go there for just university

International students get a ton of student finance apparently

[brazen fern]

its pretty darn cheap yeah

[quaint fog]

And it be nice to explore other countries and not just uk and usa

[brazen fern]

i pay like 360€ a semester, which includes a nationwide public transport ticket

[quaint fog]

What

[wanton halo]

i just applied for university a few days back

[willow grotto]

Man, i wanna move to the US at some point to live with my SO, but this current situation is pain

[wanton halo]

praying i get accepted

[quaint fog]

In the US?

[wanton halo]

you do NOT want to live here

[wanton halo]

yeah but it’s online so i can attend internationally

[quaint fog]

I have an SO in the us but I do not wanna live there rn

[brazen fern]

and if you get your citizenship or permanent residency, you can also freely go to ANY eu country mostly without border controls

[wanton halo]

orange man is bad man

[brazen fern]

and even live in other eu countries like its your home country

its super cool

[quaint fog]

Don’t you have to be married to get like a perma residency

[brazen fern]

nah you just have to live for a certain amount of years

[quaint fog]

In the US you have to marry someone to get perma residency/citizenship lol

[wanton halo]

@brazen fern i heard that taxes were a big thing there though

[brazen fern]

and have stable income

[willow grotto]

i love how he prohibited 🏳️‍⚧️ people from joining the military, which reads incredibly pro 🏳️‍⚧️ for anyone with 2 braincells to rub together

[brazen fern]

amongst other criteria i cant name

[willow grotto]

masterful gambit

[brazen fern]

taxes are everywhere here

but its well worth it

[quaint fog]

Idk I applied for global pass this year cause the border control for the US is crazy bruh

[wanton halo]

people voted for him for cheaper houses and groceries