💬destiny-chat

[fervent veldt]

pluh

[plain jacinth]

that's just a shittier last word

d1 grandpas out lol

[feral minnow]

in my restless dreams, i see that town

[fervent veldt]

d1 players stuck in the past lule

[tired oriole]

[queen tapir]

Anyone want to help me get the first 3 messages in vesper?

[real verge]

hey guys, Mr. Godslayer here

[feral minnow]

go home

[fervent veldt]

mr godslayer

[real verge]

hiii

[devout spoke]

Dude legendarys do that much crit damage, make it feel like I’m running an EXOTIC

Half the exotics in the game are lame because they’re glorified legendaries

Make last word the ultimate cowboy gun

Doesn’t mean it has to be a pve meta option, but make it more FUN

Unfortunate

[frigid hatch]

Ace can only hit that hard with Memento Mori and it's one of the hardest hitting HC's in the game with that buff so i dunno what you're on about lol

[carmine wind]

First Curse should be an ornament for The Last Word

[devout spoke]

I have a word of crota that hits 12.7k headshots

[carmine wind]

I know that is extremely cheap & lazy but honestly the gun was pretty much an ornament to begin with

[carmine wind]

Last Word in PvE.

[devout spoke]

Play into the crit damage then

[carmine wind]

It sounds stupid but that bug for LW became official in PvE and now it hits harder than contest mode freaktraks

[devout spoke]

Make it the gunslingers best friend it’s hyped up to be

[carmine wind]

Sigh
If only lucky pants didnt cap out at 7x before it started the cooldown

[devout spoke]

It’s simply missing the functionality in pve, if it had something, anything, it’d be fantastic

[carmine wind]

I mean i get why
But if it were x10, oh my goodness

[devout spoke]

Idc if you give it enlightened action or sum, but give it something

It needs that little bump and it’ll be used a lot more imo

[carmine wind]

last word in PvE + Lucky Pants would just be the best thing to ever exist

All one would have to do is swap guns and then youd keep lucky pants buff on last word perpetually

like peacekeepers and huckleberry

[wanton halo]

It's too easy to get max pinnacle now I literally went from getting 2007 drops to 2010 in 1 raid

[devout spoke]

I think they can nerf its crit damage and give it an additional pve centered functionality to make it really stand out

[wanton halo]

Man I hate Mondays

[carmine wind]

Were adding 10 more levels next season since its so easy

[wanton halo]

It literally doesn't matter

[stiff galleon]

idk why you are all still going on about last word, it has a pve niche currently

there's like a bajillion other guns that dont have any

[carmine wind]

Suros regime fans on suicide watch

[wanton halo]

I was getting 2004 before reset now it's 2010 since I actually decided to do salvations edge

[devout spoke]

Oh my god yes 😭

[carmine wind]

Peacekeepers + huckleberry fans have officially made sweet business + actium war rig fans a thing of the past

[devout spoke]

But autos in general struggle so idk if that’s as much of a thought as some others

[devout spoke]

I know, I wish all exotics had a place in both pvp and pve

[carmine wind]

Do not even get me started on how necrochasm fans cope with but its got one for all meanwhile 1 ability nukes the entire arena

[devout spoke]

Necro is the exception

But all other exotic autos kinda struggle

[stoic birch]

is 2006 light power too low for expert encore?

[devout spoke]

I wish jade rabbit had headstone or sum for pve and pvp

[silent laurel]

just give last word the ADS modifier again from the catalyst

[carmine wind]

At this rate all Necrochasm needs is: cursed thrallsplosion on non-crits and shooting posioned targets causes thrallsplosion and we're golden

Like its an auto worthy of a raid weapon

[devout spoke]

Yeah but just run necrotic grips

[stiff galleon]

the wicked implement in question

[devout spoke]

Yeah but scouts suck to use

Which is the root issue tbh

[stiff galleon]

jade rabbit's still a scout so i dont see your point

[carmine wind]

Touch of Malice

you'd be surprised how good that thing is

[stiff galleon]

headstone also just doesnt synergize with jade rabbit

[silent laurel]

pretty sure necro was doing this last season, once you get the desperation buff body kills also do the explosion, this season its not doing that

[devout spoke]

It’s an almost 8 year old exotic so I get it’s hard to keep em relevant sometimes

[carmine wind]

No, if it was we'd see youtubers rave abt it

[devout spoke]

You can’t always stick the landing

I just wish scouts were better feeling and that we had more than 2 good exotic smgs

[carmine wind]

Jade Rabbit if you ask me needs an overhaul, and i know how

Give it Gutshot Straight instead of Zen Moment

[silent laurel]

they did talk about it, not just last season, pretty sure its doing that on release, no idea if its with the necro grips interaction tho, but i clearly remember once you got desperation it explodes on body

[carmine wind]

Its: if the poison KILLS them then they explode

[devout spoke]

Yes 🤤

[carmine wind]

Like im talking shooting a currently poisoned target with an internal .25s cooldown

[devout spoke]

I think that traces need an overhaul too

[silent laurel]

nope, im sure what im talking about, like real body shot, not poision tick

[devout spoke]

Rocket sidearms either need a massive nerf or traces need a huge buff

[charred yacht]

Buff traces plse 🙏🙏

[civic kettle]

traces actually do need a buff

[silent laurel]

void breach be like

[charred yacht]

Back when double special generated heavy ammo the game was peak

[devout spoke]

Fr, destiny has some really unique feeling guns, hand cannons and traces being the most prominent I can think of

No other game really has weapons like those

At least not in terms of feel and gameplay

[carmine wind]

I'd lean towards nerf considering we're power creeping d1 icebreaker out of existance now with special ammo econ

[light arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/moist-critical-gif-18538102

[carmine wind]

and even d2 icebreaker, which is frankly significantly more powerful is struggling hard

If you ask me, special ammo finisher was a hard mistake.

[charred yacht]

I dont really see the problem

[silent laurel]

twas fine, till players discovered 2x special

[carmine wind]

Why yes i can just get all of my ammo for my super sidearm back and use a shoot to loot + explosive scout to only get extra ammo.

[devout spoke]

Rocket sidearms were a bad idea for legendaries

Should’ve been an exotic imo

[civic kettle]

they ruined the sandbox

[carmine wind]

Nevermind what i'll do when i get a, idk, wave frame gl

...with shoot to loot.

[charred yacht]

Rocket sidearms kinda powercrept everything ya

[devout spoke]

Wave frames are at least restricted to the floor

[civic kettle]

they fill a niche that was originally meant for shotty/sniper

[carmine wind]

...and the new special ammo gen mod

[civic kettle]

which is adds that are too tanky to normally deal with via a primary but not tanky enough to just use ur heavy on

[devout spoke]

A rocket sidearm does a waveframes job better and doesn’t need a floor to run across

[charred yacht]

Just invalidates fusions completely

[devout spoke]

Legit the best weapons in the game pve wise no question

[carmine wind]

Fusion rifle fans on suicide watch after area of denial frames

[devout spoke]

And the one exotic one is mid too

[silent laurel]

what can they do on rocket sidearm tho? realistically speaking, they can crash down its dmg on elites/yellow bars? then add a damage falloff + lower velocity?

[charred yacht]

No idea

[devout spoke]

It shouldn’t have been added to the game

It is Pandora’s box in every sense of the word

[charred yacht]

I think the best change is just continue to nerf ammo

[carmine wind]

yeah i'd say just make it extremely bad on ammo

[charred yacht]

But idk

[devout spoke]

It has killed so many archetypes and simply outclasses almost everything

They are on par with the best ad clear exotics in the game

[silent laurel]

people just gonna use special finisher, i guess they can also clamp down on ammo earned from special finisher/finder bricks?

[carmine wind]

the only thing it doesnt outclass is abilities

[devout spoke]

Yeah but nothing does really

[gaunt obsidian]

pepehands 200 runs and no arsenal

[carmine wind]

i think bungie wanted to make legendary forerunner
And make legendary GL's magically irrelavent

[charred yacht]

Special finisher seems fine to me idk

[carmine wind]

Oh, i know how to make rocket sidearms balanced

Just 0 aoe. Like, none, whatsoever

[devout spoke]

Forerunner is balanced perfectly imo and extremely fun to use

[silent laurel]

hmm, but then again, they can just buff other weapon archetypes to be competitive with rocket sidearm, while also nerfing rocket sidearm again on ammo economy

[carmine wind]

But its a homing projectile so it somewhat can aim itself at the cost of travel time

[devout spoke]

Especially with a catalyst, it’s a love letter to halo, which is what it’s meant to do

[charred yacht]

I mean they literally have a blast radius stat

[devout spoke]

Yeah that’s the issue

[carmine wind]

Then get rid of it

[devout spoke]

One shot shouldn’t do the work of a whole sunshot

[charred yacht]

I dont think they will lol

[devout spoke]

It’s got no equals

[carmine wind]

yeah they wont ik

[charred yacht]

I mean for me half the reason to use exotic primaries is to generate heavy

Another nerf you could do to rocket sidearms i guess is nerf the rpm across the board

[devout spoke]

I use exotics because they’re cool looking or work with a silly build idea

Aka chromatic fire and ace of spades 🤤

[charred yacht]

idk why i am even trying to come up with stuff lol

[final perch]

who at bungie thought it was a good idea to give the reskinned europa shotgun desperado?
https://fxtwitter.com/shin_tatu/status/1849623407069102456?s=46

[charred yacht]

Bungie just giving every weapon type a heavy burst frame

Idk what roll you would even want on the shotgun

Graverobber + surrounded?

[final perch]

tbh it really doesnt look great

other than that, i want to try having desperado on it for the silly giggles

[wanton halo]

Never thought I’d say this but Raiju’s Harness feels awesome

[wanton halo]

Legendary fourth horseman

[dull goblet]

How can I get the wicked implement catalyst? It still says it requires deep dives even though those were removed from the game...

[final perch]

but burst

[wanton halo]

Yes

[charred yacht]

I see people say they get it from playlist activities

[silent laurel]

wonder if slideshot will reload a voltshot tho

[wanton halo]

99.9999% sure it won’t

[dull goblet]

My RNG must be rigged...

*tinfoil hat intensifies *

[charred yacht]

True

Catas from playlists are pretty rare nowadays

[dull goblet]

I'll spam GMs next week anyway, so hopefully it drops then.

[stiff galleon]

no, the only simulated reload that will proc perks that require a reload is marksman dodge

i dont think even dragon's shadow + gambler's dodge will proc them

rof and demo and whatever else for sure do not

[normal garden]

[silent laurel]

oof, wouldve been a fun roll atleast if it worked

[civic kettle]

inb4 it does less damage than slugs

[charred yacht]

Would be comical

[civic kettle]

it has 4th times

so it has to be two slug bullets

[normal garden]

That guns gonna be mid asf, surely

[civic kettle]

probably will

I doubt they will powercreep heritage

[charred yacht]

Bungie has been hyping up the shotgun tho

[stiff galleon]

idk why you think its gonna be mid, most stuff like this is made for powercreep

[normal garden]

it's gonna be mid because I want it to be so I don't have to play on haunted lost sectors for the 4 billionth time

[charred yacht]

REAL

[civic kettle]

this

[fervent veldt]

i dont think ive seen one person unironically like haunted sectors

[charred yacht]

Did anyone dislike the infinite forest?

[stiff galleon]

tough

[fervent veldt]

never played it

[charred yacht]

I feel like it was fine and they should have just kept it

[runic fable]

@civic kettle hello bro

@normal garden hello bro

[charred yacht]

Er i guess it was called the haunted forest? Idk

[normal garden]

Surely Eva just gives a voltshot roll right

[runic fable]

✅

[normal garden]

[plucky notch]

Haven’t you see you in long time. Welcome back old friend. 😎

[normal garden]

[carmine wind]

The Perk Weighting Controversy: Who would win in a fight? The Destiny Spaghetti code or the Community’s Schizophrenia

[normal garden]

Skitzoposting always prevails

[charred yacht]

Def the schitzos

[normal garden]

It always comes out on top

[charred yacht]

Perhaps i treated bungie too harshly

[carmine wind]

understood, you're now a bungo shill

[charred yacht]

Lmfao

[carmine wind]

and it is justified to send bombs to your house

[old mural]

Is navigator farmable this week?

[charred yacht]

Yes i think so

[normal garden]

As long as the fix their f*ck up I'll be cool with it

Not like I'll stop playing

[charred yacht]

The d2team twitter account is a gift from the heavens

[plucky notch]

Bungo, will you stop shafting me with armors?? 😭🙏

[fervent veldt]

yeah

[winter gull]

hey gang, say i was going to purchase the Revenant silver bundle, do I get the season included with the purchase or am i meant to buy it with the silver the bundle gives

[charred yacht]

Buy it with the silver i think

I might be wrong tho

[winter gull]

😔

[normal garden]

I don't think you get the season if you buy the steam bundle

[winter gull]

im on ps4

but i think it's the same

[normal garden]

Yeah, it is

[winter gull]

well then

[normal garden]

Get enough silver to buy it and an ornament though

[winter gull]

Vespers Host/Heresy dungeon or Revenant

[charred yacht]

Just buy annual pass sir

[winter gull]

it's 75 where i live

[normal garden]

Dungeons > Seasons

[winter gull]

and i got like 30 expendable funds lmao

[charred yacht]

75 us dollars???

[winter gull]

Australian Dollars

[plucky notch]

You are suggesting him to spend more money on Annual Pass? You are 🐐

[charred yacht]

Lmfao

There might be a sale for the annual pass at some point

[normal garden]

Dungeons are actually good, Seasonal story's and weapons are more or less dog water

[charred yacht]

Annual pass has the dungeon key truee 😎

[normal garden]

There's one on steam for 60% off rn lol

[charred yacht]

I mean we’ve had worse seasons

[carmine wind]

season of the deep

[hexed cosmos]

All master challenges are available for SE rn, will they all be available at once next week too?

[old mural]

Ty

Ty all

[charred yacht]

I can appreciate the effort bungie has put in for the new stuff

[normal garden]

You say that like we've seen more than 30 mins of seasonal story in this one

[charred yacht]

Its a lot more polished than some of the old seasons

[lyric shale]

For GR7, do i need to complete all 3 final shape coop focus missions? or just 3 total? can i run the same one 3 times?

[charred yacht]

Well story is bad yea

[normal garden]

Season of the Deep felt shallow ngl

[plucky notch]

Season of the hunt from beyond light was.. yikes.

[carmine wind]

to be fair, we asked directly for no filler.
i admit, i didnt expect, y'know, only 14 steps for 3 months

[pallid anchor]

where season story

[hexed cosmos]

Will all master salvation edge challenges be available next week?

[carmine wind]

we went from filler story to no story effectively

[normal garden]

No story, farm onslaught

[chilly steppe]

Hah. Pun.

[charred yacht]

I think the 3 act thing is just not good idk

[winter gull]

when it's featured it should

[carmine wind]

I think the 3 act thing can work, we just need this format and... not 14 steps for 3 months

[fervent veldt]

it wont be featured until a new raid comes out

[carmine wind]

i honestly thought they'd just release all 31 steps of montony in one week but no

[hexed cosmos]

Bc they all available rn but it’s not a featured raid since it’s the newest, so not sure if it’s only for this week or rest of the season

[carmine wind]

they just gut that too

[plucky notch]

oh wow! So fun of a season! Let’s go ahead do very short story and… time to do an endless grind of activity that has no replay-ability. 😭

[fervent veldt]

onslop

[chilly steppe]

Onslaught 💤

[charred yacht]

I still prefer this episode to the 30 minutes of lost sectors and random things per week in last episode

[normal garden]

Salvations edge challenges only come in one at a time. It'll become a pinnacle feature when a new raid rolls out

Onslaught my goat

[winter gull]

oh yeah true

[hexed cosmos]

Yea but if u look at master mode, all challenges are available rn

[winter gull]

only 3rd encounter is availible right now, master is enabled tho

OH WAIT YOUR RIGHT

[carmine wind]

ok now its time to die to a brig or a random servitor on solo flawless vesper

[winter gull]

YOU'RE*

[carmine wind]

wish me luck

[hexed cosmos]

Yea idk if that’s just a week thing or all season yk lol

[normal garden]

Probs just a week thing

[winter gull]

Might be that till the next raid

prob odds are either week or end of season

[charred yacht]

The leaks for the stuff in the next 2 acts got me a bit hyped

[hexed cosmos]

Yea hopefully this so I can do em all but not only have a few days

[winter gull]

i need to do 2nd, 3rd master challenge and 4th encounter triumph

I really dont wanna do verity triumph

[plucky notch]

same thing over and over. Grind onslaught and make tonics. content 👌

[chilly steppe]

Content. Word used as lightly as sugar for a diabetic

[plucky notch]

Nah. More of a flat water flavored soda.

[charred yacht]

I mean there are gonna be like new activitues

Maybe i misread

[plucky notch]

If it is? It’s better be good. 😭
But I have low expectations since it’s bungie we are talking here.

[charred yacht]

Also i think act 3 will have another exotic quest?

[light arrow]

it should

[lyric shale]

If you hate the game so much just quit. Don't need toxic folks

[light arrow]

that's the seasonal model they pitched

[plucky notch]

🤣

[charred yacht]

The perks for the exotic have been leaked already

[light arrow]

a horde mode seaonal activity, a couple battlegrounds, an exotic mission, and some endgame activity

[plucky notch]

Who said I hate the game? 😂💀

[slim bolt]

ye we have an exotic quest comin

[light arrow]

Valid criticisms aren't toxic, the game is arugably stale af rn

[plucky notch]

Making stuff up and putting words in my mouth. Not a single time did I say anything about hating the game. 😂💀

[quasi berry]

good

[slim bolt]

havent u heard? if u complain about how dogsht the game is then u hate it 🔥

[wide timber]

does vespers host drop the best loot rn

[slim bolt]

no, europe heroic events do

[light arrow]

to be fair where do you go from the 10 year story aside from tying up loose ends

[plucky notch]

1. You can’t lie to me and say the game right now is good.
2. Everyone KNOWS the state of the game. 😂

[slim bolt]

i agree, d2 needs to be put down. give us destiny rising 🔥

[charred yacht]

I mean the new dungeon is cool

D2 has been in worse states imo

[slim bolt]

RAD is all the game has left now xd

[plucky notch]

Except for dungeon. That was fun to do

[light arrow]

Scoop is not defending his own stance rn

At least gms are next week

[plucky notch]

a 100% gacha game will carry us 😎🙏

[charred yacht]

If bungie can fix the rng plague there is hope 🙏

[slim bolt]

nothin even worth farmin

[plucky notch]

[charred yacht]

Gotta wait for iron banner 😢

[light arrow]

It's not about farming, my friends just like gms, so I run it with them

[charred yacht]

Chill clip glaive is kinda interesting idk

[light arrow]

Otherwise I'd play monster hunter and hades 2

[slim bolt]

why would u play that disgusting mode

[slim bolt]

ah thats fair enuf

[charred yacht]

Rocket sidearm 😭

[slim bolt]

wallah we have enough, call it a day

[charred yacht]

The iron banner one is gonna be glued to the kinetic slot

[slim bolt]

mfs will give us void rocket sidearm next season locked behind trials to artifically boost trials pop, mark my words

[slim bolt]

u wont get a good roll till they fix perk rng

[charred yacht]

The rng on the sidearm didnt look too bad

Tbh all you need is chill clip the rest is bonus

[terse sun]

is there any way to consistently chain stylish executioner apart from gyrfalcons or is it the only way?

[charred yacht]

You can with on prismatic with winters shroud

[frigid hatch]

it has a hard cooldown of 3 seconds so you can't really chain it

just dodge roll with Winters Shroud and wait

[terse sun]

that seems like an absolute death sentence but ill add it to the list of ideas, ty

[normal garden]

It'll be a nice scoop up

[frigid hatch]

Winter's Shroud Stylish Exec with combination blow / melee dodge is meta for hunters in Master content rn

if you're THAT worried about staying invisible just put on Assassins

[charred yacht]

People use liars and combination blow with it

[terse sun]

im trying to figure out how to do something with bakris that isnt just raid boss dps

hence the no-gyrfalcons bit

[blissful scaffold]

Sup chat

[charred yacht]

Hi

[frigid hatch]

Bakris isn't viable because of it putting a hard cooldown on your Dodge regeneration

[terse sun]

see, i asked a friend about that, and it took us about 3 seconds to come to the conclusion that if anything is a smooth way to instantly die, its that

[blissful scaffold]

What does an liars and a job have something in common ? - They both blow

[frigid hatch]

Warlocks Sanguine and Titans Eternal Warrior are significantly better options for 4x surge buffing

[terse sun]

who cares, its fun

i'd use it even if it didnt have 4x surge

[frigid hatch]

then don't ask for optimizations

[terse sun]

i didnt

i asked for ways to chain stylish executioner lol

[frigid hatch]

^

[terse sun]

what part of that is relevant to bakris

[frigid hatch]

why bring up Bakris if your question was about Gyrfalcons and Stylish?

[neat pine]

Could someone assist me with some time trial nightmare hunts? I just got 2 left aaaaaaand its pain

[terse sun]

because you brought up assassins so i explained why that wont work

cmon man

i know there are other ways to go invisible, but i was wondering about specifically stylish executioner and not any of the other dozen ways

[frigid hatch]

you're making less and less sense... someone else can put up wit you lol

[terse sun]

average destiny player when met with a non meta loadout ig

[frigid hatch]

i use Frostees

[normal garden]

Your going up against a seasoned goblin, don't bother

[terse sun]

yeah, realised that. already blocked em dw

[frigid hatch]

this seasoned goblin is clapping people thinking Grand Overture is good DPS in Simmumah

by +1 mill on a low end

[charred yacht]

🤔

[frigid hatch]

"nice 2.9 mil DPS with Grand Overture, watch me do 4 mil with Edge Transit"

[normal garden]

Classic Flan

[charred yacht]

The invis and the liars heal usually saves you? Another trick is to run 3 heavy handed mods (for infinite orbs) and then the fragment that gives restoration on orb (using goldy)

[frigid hatch]

Grand Overture is STILL a dumbass idea on Atraks... most of the missiles will consistently run the risk of flying off towards her clones instead lmao

[sly schooner]

Do DSC secret chests drop RB?

[jagged sage]

They can

Not guaranteed

[terse sun]

ive tried a lot of stuff with combination blow, liars, etc, and maybe im not using it right but i die instantly before i can ever get my first melee kill

combination blow just feels so terrible to use

its like you dont even have a melee ability half the time

[frigid hatch]

they tweaked Liar's going into TFS

it's not nearly as good as it used to be, and Combination Blow just got nerfed a second time in TFS

bungie has spent literally all xpac balancing patches on nerfing hunters after they were already so horribly bad outside of 4x infinite GG chain spam in Lightfall

that they had to buff hunters to make them remotely competitive with titans doing +1 mil punches

[terse sun]

i imagine jolting feedback has too much of a windup / activation time to assume it'll be there when i need it

[frigid hatch]

like besides the Still Hunt nerf none of the others make any sense

[terse sun]

light.gg just has a lot of ?s on the page

[frigid hatch]

Jolting Feedback wont ever really proc on weaker mobs like Dregs

but it consistently procs on anything with more HP

treat mobs like Captains or Knights as Lightning Rods

you shoot them to proc Jolt and nuke everything around them

[terse sun]

actually, nvm, no need to answer, i dont have access to any guns that roll with it anyway 🙃

[frigid hatch]

the best gun in the game is coming out next Iron Banner

we're getting a Reverbration + Chill Clip rocket pistol

Reverbration just mods the Blast stat to be 100 so you'd want whatever jacks up every other stat in total disregard for Blast Radius

because you'll be guarenteed 100 of it anyway

[wide timber]

where can i farm good gear if i dont wanna drop 50 dollars for the annual pass

[frigid hatch]

Onslaught

[willow grotto]

no auto loading holster?

[frigid hatch]

it's a sidearm

[fervent veldt]

impulse amplifier >>>

[normal garden]

Loose change, trust

[willow grotto]

if i'm using a chill clip weapon, its only purpose is to freeze or slow something

[frigid hatch]

just raises Velocity to 100, so you'd want Velocity MW to make that unnecessary

it's a rocket pistol

[willow grotto]

otherwise i'd use the call, or indebted kindness

[fervent veldt]

it also gives it high reload speed

[frigid hatch]

you dont put a damage perk on literally any of them except Indebted, technically

[willow grotto]

or even that one from echoes, but most likely indebted kindness

[terse sun]

the deep stone crypt weapons are some of the most fun ive had in a long time

[frigid hatch]

it's a sidearm, it already has high reload speed

[fervent veldt]

rocket sidearms dont

[terse sun]

specifically heritage and succession, that is. recombination is so good and i wish i tried it sooner

[frigid hatch]

if a sidearm has 0 Reload Speed it will STILL reload faster than a Hand Cannon with 100

[fervent veldt]

its still sluggish

[frigid hatch]

Succession can be farmed from Onslaught too, has all the same rolls + a couple swaps and the origin perk is the only main difference

[fervent veldt]

blast radius just isnt worth specing into

[frigid hatch]

i dunno what to tell you if you need Reload Speed that badly in PVE

[fervent veldt]

considering handling and reload are too good of stats to pass up

[frigid hatch]

because most of us gamers here spec into Handling maxing for pve

[terse sun]

chill clip is exclusively on special weapons, right?

[frigid hatch]

yes

we got Headstone for most Primaries

and there's the new Rimestealer perk this season for newer stasis weapons

we're getting the strongest scout rifle in the game later this season

lightweight frame, uses the same baseline frame as a previous season i forgot specifically

[fervent veldt]

strongest is a bit of a stretch

[blissful scaffold]

@terse sun IB new sidearm is stasis and chill vlip

[frigid hatch]

but the stability on them is so strong the gun has literally no recoil

so your reticle doesn't move at all when firing

[terse sun]

it'll be a rocket sidearm though, still special. besides, i dont play pvp so no sidearm for me ^^

[frigid hatch]

if reload speed is that much of a killer for you get it with Reload MW instead of Velocity

[willow grotto]

i'm honestly more excited for the stasis glaive than the stasis rocket sidearm lol

[frigid hatch]

Iron Banner is really just PVE disguised as PVP

[terse sun]

i doubt headstone can be manipulated in any way to apply slow or something?

[frigid hatch]

people are that trash lol

[real verge]

hey all, mr godslayer here

[terse sun]

just looking for any way to apply debuffs here, else imma have to find a good chill clip gun

[fervent veldt]

hi mr godslayer

[willow grotto]

with a current artifact mod, generating a stasis crystal freezes stuff nearby

[frigid hatch]

Stasis Crystals spawning near mobs automatically applies a some Slow to them

[real verge]

thank you thank you

[willow grotto]

this includes headstone too

[fervent veldt]

impulse amplifier + chill clip is what i want

[willow grotto]

they have to be within hugging distance doe

[terse sun]

i didnt know this was a thing - thank you.

[frigid hatch]

there's that too yeah

[terse sun]

will definitely keep an eye out for a more permanent solution but thats really good

[frigid hatch]

there's another perk where frozen mobs generate Duskfields around them too

[cyan anchor]

Hi mister godslayer

[fervent veldt]

its a glaive so for me its a automatic dismantle

[frigid hatch]

like yeah no Stasis is yoted af this season

[terse sun]

are there any other artifact perk things i might've missed lmfao

[frigid hatch]

pair Stasis with Arc to watch everything vaporize before it can even fire its gun from spawn

[willow grotto]

nothing really noteworthy

[terse sun]

unfortunate

[frigid hatch]

2 titans running Glacial Quake, Facet of Ruin and a Stasis Crystallization tonic will 1 phase the first boss of VH

[terse sun]

welp, chill clip is next up on my farm list. elsies rifle is gonna have to wait lmfao

[fervent veldt]

elsies rifle is so goated in pvp

[willow grotto]

tbh though, unless i wanna run double special the rocket sidearm is not really for me, cuz my special weapon is perma locked to icebreaker now

[fervent veldt]

its pretty nice

[terse sun]

eh, i do not play pvp, ever. im looking for repulsor/destabilizing

[willow grotto]

which i guess you CAN do pretty easily with icebreaker, but still

[fervent veldt]

no words

[frigid hatch]

im a Cayde-6 worshipper so im locked on Still Hunt or Ace of Spaydes

i will NOT main any other weapons

[fervent veldt]

and not in a good way

[terse sun]

i dont know of any other pulse rifle that has those perks, and i want something for my void build that stuns unstop

[fervent veldt]

just use graviton lance, high impact frames arent good in pve

[willow grotto]

i mean, it's not a pulse but we have a double fire HC that has those

[frigid hatch]

Maahes HC4 is so good

[terse sun]

exotic slot is taken, and it seems fine to me? frames have never really made a difference in how i judge a weapon

[willow grotto]

it's a world drop, but Maahes HC4 has that, ye

[terse sun]

the thing feels nice enough so ill use it

[frigid hatch]

im so glad i decided to actually try using one when i got a roll with Frenzy

[fervent veldt]

if you say so

[frigid hatch]

holy moly it's nice

[fervent veldt]

just saying

[fervent veldt]

havent used it yet

[frigid hatch]

despite being a double-burst HC it's one of the smoothest HC's in the game

its only downside is it has horrid Reload speed

[terse sun]

but yeah, unless there is another pulse with that combination

[frigid hatch]

but mine rolled Rapid Hit + Frenzy so that's a non issue

[fervent veldt]

buff destab rounds

[terse sun]

ill farm that and use veles-x while i wait

repulsor + golden tricorn is a good enough substitute considering it only cost like 75k glimmer

[willow grotto]

destabilizing rounds should proc a volatile explosion on precision kill instead of applying volatile nearby on kill

[terse sun]

isnt the aoe what makes destabilizing good though?

[fervent veldt]

remove the cooldown

[terse sun]

i thought that was the whole point of it, spreading volatile chain reactions

[gray widget]

hey siri play bbl drizzy

[hallow wasp]

remove the perk from game and just tell people to use the grenade kill fragment already

[fervent veldt]

it does but it has a cooldown so thats why i dont like it

[willow grotto]

unrelated but, we'll later in the season get Gridskipper, which is a 540 pulse that rolls both repulsor and destabilizing

[frigid hatch]

just get Claws of the Wolf when IB is out

[willow grotto]

it's coming either act 2 or 3 of this episode

[hallow wasp]

like bro

[frigid hatch]

Rapid-Fire Pulses are cooking in PVE rn

[hallow wasp]

destab has been coped about since it came out

[terse sun]

damn. i might buy the season if it ends up being pretty good, cuz that'll be 2 weapons i want locked behind it

[willow grotto]

also yeah, claws of the wolf from IB if you can put up with that

[terse sun]

i was this close to farming dares for a good ignition code before i realised the roll i want isnt even available from dares

[fervent veldt]

what frame is claws

[willow grotto]

another 540 that rolls that roll too

[hallow wasp]

rapid

[willow grotto]

540 too

[terse sun]

not happening lol

[fervent veldt]

rip

[hallow wasp]

doesn't need you to buy the season

[frigid hatch]

Drifter has Yesteryear

[willow grotto]

540's feel so go good in pve though

[frigid hatch]

gambit is literally PVE most of the time

[terse sun]

iron banner, you mean, or gridskipper?

[fervent veldt]

how well does rapids perform in master/gm stuff is what im wondering

[terse sun]

which frame is that in words

[hallow wasp]

ib claws of wolf

[willow grotto]

rapid fire

[terse sun]

yeah, not happening, because i dont play pvp ^^

[willow grotto]

yesteryear doesn't have destabilizing. Sadge

[hallow wasp]

ur loss

[fervent veldt]

suck it up

[frigid hatch]

most primaries are pretty "eh..." in GM's unless they're just ridiculously strong like Frenzy Heal Clip parrabellum

[terse sun]

ahh. never been a fan of rapid fire stuff, always preferred the high-impact varieties, much easier to handle

[hallow wasp]

also for void pulse rewind frenzy Elsie's clears btw

[fervent veldt]

i dont play pvp either but im still gonna play ib for the rocket sidearm

[willow grotto]

i want a stasis scout with headstone, but those aren't very common nowdays

[hallow wasp]

ammo reload handling damage and ability Regen perks on the same gun

[willow grotto]

i used to have a jararaca, but apparently i deleted it

[terse sun]

yeah, no. i dont play for mental health reasons, im not just gonna "suck it up" for some slightly stronger pixels

[fervent veldt]

only void pulse i use is graviton tbh

womp

[frigid hatch]

Live Fire is on world drop and we're getting a Lightweight next Act of this episode

[chilly steppe]

PvP isn’t that bad. Unless you’re worse than bad

[hallow wasp]

I've used this Elsie's since into the light drop and only swap if I need energy weapon special dps

[willow grotto]

i do want either lightweight or rapid fire

[frigid hatch]

Live Fire is precision

[hallow wasp]

currently it's terrible because Elsie's archetype wasn't nerfed and gravitpn Lance got rpm buff

[terse sun]

im worse than bad.

[fervent veldt]

so am i

[hallow wasp]

so it's graviton Lance and Elsie's rifle and no other primaries ever

[fierce kelp]

anyone can help me for my build?

[frigid hatch]

you got The Prophet if you're THAT down bad for something that's slower

[hallow wasp]

prophet is so good rn btw

[chilly steppe]

Then just use what everyone else is using. Adapt and overcome

[terse sun]

prophet?

[hallow wasp]

they buffed the archetype so kill clip two taps all resiliences

[willow grotto]

attrition orbs on a scout sounds nutty for things like gm's

[frigid hatch]

i'm using TImeworn rn because i wanna see how it performs with a decent roll

[willow grotto]

trials weapon, sadge

[terse sun]

ah. never heard of it lol

[fervent veldt]

sitting in the back plinking away while the team is up front 😍

[hallow wasp]

it's the most boring meta possible and I mainly use energy slot special weapons

[willow grotto]

timeworn is pretty good, until you realize it's a lever action with bad hipfire

[frigid hatch]

Prophet is a Trials Tex Mechanica frame Stasis scout rifle

[willow grotto]

but it can do some nutty things like reload 4 shots at once

[chilly steppe]

Skill issue

[terse sun]

attrition orbs on no hesitation is still my favourite thing, with the origin trait being thresh as well, you get so much super

[hallow wasp]

all lever actions have bad hip fire besides dmt

[frigid hatch]

it's animation bugged too

[fierce kelp]

in ftc

[willow grotto]

elaborate?

[frigid hatch]

Timeworn doesn't display bullets in your guardians hand when reloading

[chilly steppe]

I hardly ever use special ammo weapons. Unless it’s either witherhorde

[willow grotto]

it's tolerable on long arm, at least

[frigid hatch]

so you're just sensually rubbing the gun

[hallow wasp]

nah

[willow grotto]

hot

[frigid hatch]

sometimes it gets stuck in a frozen loop of the reloading animation too

[fervent veldt]

double special 😍

[hallow wasp]

the only one that has better hip fire besides dmt is enhanced hip fire grip prophet

[frigid hatch]

until you fire it that is

[hallow wasp]

and even then scout rifle range and hip fire isnt a combination

[frigid hatch]

Prophet has Tex Mechanica origin perk

[willow grotto]

but fr, something like healclip goes crazy on timeworn too since every time you insert a pair of rounds, that counts as a reload

[hallow wasp]

tex mechanica is a reload speed perk

not a hip fire boost perk

[chilly steppe]

Ew

[fervent veldt]

not ew

[frigid hatch]

it's Handling, Reload Speed, Movement speed

[sly schooner]

Has it happenedto you, to confirm?

[hallow wasp]

yes

[chilly steppe]

Very ew

[hallow wasp]

none of which helps you land hip fire shots

[terse sun]

ive never really used fusion rifles, are they viable to use as a pseudo-primary like rocket sidearms and trace rifles?

[fervent veldt]

no not really

[carmine wind]

i know the lightning strikes on vespers were strong but i thought they were only comically strong on the boss enc
That 1 shot me during the jumping puzzle when i was sniping

[terse sun]

or are they more like shotguns / snipers

[hallow wasp]

so you need to boost the hip fire to even land the hip fire shots to proc tex

[frigid hatch]

i mean you're comparing an exotic to Non-Exotics

[chilly steppe]

Nothing I like more than running double special and running out of ammo even faster

[frigid hatch]

kinda unreasonable lmao

[hallow wasp]

no I'm not

[willow grotto]

they're for chonking enemies, unless you get something with reservoir burst, which you can use for ad clear

[carmine wind]

BUT i got past raeniks with no issues this time so yay 🥳

[fervent veldt]

idk about you because i dont run out of ammo

[hallow wasp]

even without dmt jn the question the hip fire of 120 scouts isn't a thing besides enhanced hfg prophet

[terse sun]

let me guess - chill clip + reservoir burst doesnt exist

[fervent veldt]

i have no issues

[willow grotto]

it don't

[frigid hatch]

"i am NoT COmPARIng anYThinG!!1"

[terse sun]

:(

[hallow wasp]

I'm not

[willow grotto]

but there are a few fusions with chill clip... although most of them come from pvp

[terse sun]

what weapon could be the best for a psuedo primary chill clip then?

[carmine wind]

a clean-ish 5 phase. (i ran out of ammo during his final stand completely and resorted to stabbing it to death with a glaive)

[willow grotto]

ager's scepter

[terse sun]

i was thinking deliverance because craftable, cheap and easy

[fervent veldt]

riptide my beloved

[willow grotto]

genuinely ager's scepter may be what you're looking for

[terse sun]

oh, i love that gun. but i've used it almost exclusively since it came out, and im trying to re-learn the game without it

[fervent veldt]

i still have my 5/5

[hallow wasp]

bro I've tested prophet rolls since the gun came out nonstop

[frigid hatch]

Liturgy

[willow grotto]

ah, fair nuff

[hallow wasp]

I farmed several prophet weekends and tried whatever roll I got

the hip fire in a vacuum just wasn't it

[terse sun]

like. genuinely. i havent stopped using it since that season, until last season

[frigid hatch]

Lost Signal is also really popular rn but mostly for boss DPS more-so than killing trash

[fervent veldt]

^^^ transcendence energy gun

[willow grotto]

question: Why not run your chonking special weapon as the chill clip one, and the pseudo primary as a non chill clip?

[terse sun]

so, just to be sure, i can't get the scorn-looking revenant weapons without paying money money

[terse sun]

that was what just got into my mind lol

[willow grotto]

that way you can run a chill clip liturgy and an indebted kindness

[hallow wasp]

because chill clip needs 3 shots and chonking specials shoot slow

[fervent veldt]

on rapid fires it needs 3

[terse sun]

liturgy?

[willow grotto]

it takes 2 with every weapon frame except rapid fire fusions

[hallow wasp]

oh

[fervent veldt]

^^

[willow grotto]

from this episode. Double fire GL with rimestealer and chill clip

[frigid hatch]

oh i remember now

use Wicked Implement

[terse sun]

not f2p, i imagine

[willow grotto]

sadly no

[terse sun]

pain.

[willow grotto]

oh rite, wicked implement works too

[hallow wasp]

[willow grotto]

it's an exotic scout that slows on repeated hits

[fervent veldt]

theres also this if you like scouts but me personally i dont use them unless it has stl + ep

[willow grotto]

it's high impact, though, so slow

[frigid hatch]

i can't stand Wicked because it is so god damn ugly lol

[hallow wasp]

for stasis gun I go adept prophet with demo explosive

[fervent veldt]

i cant stand it because its a scout 🤗

[terse sun]

oh yeah, i used that last season. my thinking behind chill clip, though, was that its less conditional

[frigid hatch]

Wicked Implement legit just looks like poop from a butt

[terse sun]

its a lot easier to left click on an enemy once than it is to left click on an enemy 4 times to slow

[hallow wasp]

the 30% pve damage boost aggressive scouts got is really felt

[willow grotto]

fair

[terse sun]

also 4 headshots vs 1 anywhere shot

[hallow wasp]

so prophet then

[terse sun]

the ease-of-use is insanely different

[frigid hatch]

i wanna see how Revision Zero is holding up rn

since it swaps between 4-Burst and 2-burst

[hallow wasp]

same as always ig

[willow grotto]

i can't wait for a season with fusion rifle mods

[terse sun]

you said that was a trials one? or am i misremembering

[willow grotto]

i miss using my vex mythoclast

[hallow wasp]

yes

[terse sun]

youch

[hallow wasp]

120rpm so hardest hitting scout type

[frigid hatch]

i want Verglas Curve to become viable

not for DPS just for general gameplay

[terse sun]

wait, deliverance says it fires "a long range precision energy bolt"

is that just confusing bungie wording or is this essentially an LFR

[hallow wasp]

deliverance is a fusion rifle

from vow

[frigid hatch]

Precision Fusion Rifles just have a longer range

they still fire a volley

[terse sun]

well yeah i gathered that, im just confused by the wording of its frame

[prime isle]

It’s my birthday 🥹

[hallow wasp]

yep

[terse sun]

hip hip hooray

🥳

[fervent veldt]

HAPPY BRITHDYW HAPY HAPY BIRHDTYWAV

[willow grotto]

that's a bug for sure. It's a fusion rifle, a normal one

[hallow wasp]

I tried to use deliverance for things but the scope sucks so much

[willow grotto]

i tried to use deliverance but it's too slow for my taste

[hallow wasp]

and precision charge time for chill clip is mega cringe

[terse sun]

yeah..i just pulled it up on light.gg and it just says "more predictably vertical recoil"

[frigid hatch]

Fusions aren't really meant for ADS'ing with their range

[hallow wasp]

and no great third column perk

[willow grotto]

that's why i wnated a burden of guilt, but that implies farming trials

[frigid hatch]

and functionally just being worse shotguns most of the time

[hallow wasp]

in pvp they are

[frigid hatch]

you ADS with literally everything in pvp

[hallow wasp]

unless you use a rapid fire shoved inside someone

[willow grotto]

me when last word

[hallow wasp]

I put freehand grip mod on rapid fusions these days

[terse sun]

chill clip + compulsive reloader seems like a good play

[frigid hatch]

you ADS with last word too, just to flex how much better you are

[willow grotto]

REAL

[terse sun]

would i be completely mistaken in suggesting this somehow

[hallow wasp]

just magnetizes bolts easier when hip fire

[hallow wasp]

still a precision frame slow chargetime

[frigid hatch]

then get Riptide

[hallow wasp]

plus compulsive means it's just a chill clip bot weapon

[willow grotto]

i use cornered just for the extra bump in charge time

cuz precision frame charge time is PAINFUL

[hallow wasp]

if you shoot more than chill clip shots it now doesn't reload fast enough

[frigid hatch]

a tool for every purpose

i am NEVER taking a Chill Clip Fusion for doing burst damage

i am taking it for champ coverage

[terse sun]

oh, really? that sucks

[hallow wasp]

as you should

but champs can be dpsed too

[willow grotto]

ehh, with the shatter damage buff, you can use chill clip for some chonking

specially with facet of ruin or whisper of fissures

[terse sun]

my thoughts were chambered compensator - accelerated coils - compulsive reloader - chill clip (obvs)

[hallow wasp]

but also champ stuns are thrown around on everything these days so I rarely use chill clip

[willow grotto]

it's not ideal, but it'll get the job done

[frigid hatch]

i just play pure stasis since i have a 5 second cooldown on my Glacier Grenades

[hallow wasp]

bleak watcher prismatic gameplay

[willow grotto]

for GM's, rime-coat rainment is gonna be a staple for sure

[frigid hatch]

BZZZZT wrong answer

[hallow wasp]

just coldsnaps and turret covers 2/3 champs

[frigid hatch]

Getaway Artists

with Bleak Watcher as a bonus

[hallow wasp]

idc about getaway

I saw it got nerfed and just stuck to osmio

[frigid hatch]

okay don't have literally infinite Transcendance energy

[willow grotto]

a turret nade that can instantly slow and very quickly freeze, on top of shatter damage and letting you apply slow by yourself if you throw the nade at yourself

[terse sun]

would a charge time masterwork be noticeably impactful or should i just go with stability?

[hallow wasp]

I have infinite already

[fervent veldt]

the nerf was nothing

[terse sun]

i seem to remember fusions are insanely difficult to control

[hallow wasp]

charge time for pve

[fervent veldt]

yeah dont spec into stability in pve

[frigid hatch]

depends on the frame, Precisions just charge slow

[willow grotto]

ehhh, not really tbh. Just don't try to use it at a range you wouldn't use a slug shotgun, basically

[terse sun]

really??? i spec into stability and 100 recoil direction on everything i use..

[frigid hatch]

Stability is only a strong stat for autos and SMG's in pve really

[fervent veldt]

vro

[stiff galleon]

more like snoozeion rifles

[willow grotto]

all stability does in PVE is make you flinch less

[hallow wasp]

controller spotted

[terse sun]

wait, fr?

[willow grotto]

unless you're using a 120 HC that kicks a lot, stability really doesn't matter

[terse sun]

it doesnt lessen recoil?

[hallow wasp]

linears benefit from it but you won't die without it

[terse sun]

kbm, so no

[blissful scaffold]

SMG feels like peashooter.

[frigid hatch]

try an Aggressive SMG with little Stab compared to the same SMG with high stab, you'll notice

[hallow wasp]

ok dawg just control the recoil

like

[fervent veldt]

no reason to spec into range and stability in pve

[fervent veldt]

^^^

[inner sandal]

why ikelos smg got nerfed

[frigid hatch]

this man gets it lmao

[willow grotto]

it does reduce recoil, but unless you're shooting something like a comically long revolver, there's really no need for high stab

[terse sun]

idk, guns with hard recoil become completely usable

i prefer to keep my ease of use high, rather than having to wrangle every single pulse rifle i shoot only to land 1/3 of the burst

[frigid hatch]

i only care for Stab on the Ros Arago frame autos and any Aggressive SMG

otherwise it's "eh whatever"

[terse sun]

and 100 recoil direction is just that cherry on top, ofc

[fervent veldt]

where is mr godslayer guy

[hallow wasp]

Elsie's yao

[inner sandal]

i try to change my stability up based on how the weapon feels. most of the time im good with just 100 recoil but some weapons just need more stab for me

[frigid hatch]

i DID spec into Recoil on my Reckless Oracle for PVE

[willow grotto]

well yeah, but oracle is a bullet hose

[hallow wasp]

slow fire rate and insane base stats so performs no matter what

[frigid hatch]

i didn't spec Stability i specced Recoil :^)

[hallow wasp]

arrowhead brake my beloved

[frigid hatch]

Reckless Oracle fires like it has 200 stability

[terse sun]

reckless oracle?

[inner sandal]

vog auto

[frigid hatch]

the gun legit just does not recoil unless you flinch

[inner sandal]

wait lol

[terse sun]

yeah, was just clarifying that they did mean that one and not some other gun with oracle in the name

[inner sandal]

im dumb

[frigid hatch]

GOS auto rifle

[terse sun]

i was so disappointed by reckless oracle ngl, i was hoping it would be satisfying to shoot but...idk

[frigid hatch]

Void Rapid-Fire

[terse sun]

it just feels weak, imo. ill stick to my age old bond

[frigid hatch]

best Void Auto in the game now

[terse sun]

probably something to do with the whole fast-shooting peashooter thing

high impact is...well, more impactful

so much nicer to shoot

[inner sandal]

ive never played gos but i love me a good age old bond

[terse sun]

its such a satisfying gun. probably my favourite gun in the game atm ngl

[frigid hatch]

GOS reprised guns became the best in the game for their respective types

[willow grotto]

This season's stasis HC feels so good to use

[frigid hatch]

Prophet of Doom is hilariously the best Non-Exotic shotgun in the game now

just... in general lol

[willow grotto]

It single handedly made me stop hating 120's

[inner sandal]

i miss 110s

[frigid hatch]

you got Closing Time, Slideways, Threat Detector, Trench Barrel, Opening Shot, 1-2p

literally any god roll you want on a shotgun is on Prophet

[terse sun]

im still waiting for that gun that makes me stop hating 140s lol

one day, maybe

[inner sandal]

ive enjoyed 140s since i got my hands on annual skate y1

[frigid hatch]

Reckless is just really damn good if you like Rapid-Fires and it can roll Paracausal which is Better Rampage

[blissful scaffold]

Wait until u hate 1 rpm Hand cannon

[willow grotto]

Eyasluna is an amazing 140

[frigid hatch]

the GOS bow 2-hit kills in pvp rn

[willow grotto]

Too bad nobody farms grasp of avarice anymore

[frigid hatch]

2 hits, proc Kinetic Tremors which kills the person

[terse sun]

remind me, where does that come from again?

[inner sandal]

parasite

[frigid hatch]

GOA final boss

[blissful scaffold]

He just says it

[willow grotto]

Cuz i really, really want a headstone roll

[terse sun]

yeah, we sent our messages pretty much right away

[willow grotto]

x)

[inner sandal]

austringer >

[blissful scaffold]

I got unrelenting and Headstone

[terse sun]

ofc its from grasp tho xd
any other suggestions?

[willow grotto]

Judgement, from prophecy

[blissful scaffold]

Both required dungeon and not craftable

[terse sun]

havent heard that one in a while. any perks of note?

[plain jacinth]

there's a level 5 in my onslaught with a Sins of the Past

[willow grotto]

iirc it can roll headstone alongside timed payload

[plain jacinth]

😭 bloke cannot let go

[blissful scaffold]

He is a MGS5 fans

[plain jacinth]

i have a judgement with demo and timed payload. one of my favourite legendaries

[inner sandal]

thats such an anti-synergistic combo

[formal condor]

Sup folks

[frigid hatch]

start GOTD farm, guy joins my party who can't be joined

[plain jacinth]

timed payload explodes faster than you think. i think it can do precision as well?

[frigid hatch]

cool LFG players

[formal condor]

lol what

[terse sun]

timed payload sounds like a funny perk ngl

[frigid hatch]

yep

[terse sun]

havent heard of that one before

[blissful scaffold]

Hit head. It deal precision then here comes the explosion damage

[formal condor]

It does

[fervent veldt]

its ep but with a delay

[willow grotto]

Not really? Kill the thing for a crystal and immediatly pop it for instant ad clear

[frigid hatch]

wanna do GOTD? we farming Simmy

[woven tinsel]

I like timed payload better than explosive payload but the synergy of explosive payload is better for my ADHD lol

[terse sun]

makes sense

[plain jacinth]

timed payload is unironically good. idk the exact differences between it and EP, but im pretty sure that timed payload gives u a sleeper ranged buff

[formal condor]

Which encounter?

[blissful scaffold]

And also, imagine the leg of the explosion payload

Lag

[frigid hatch]

Simmumah is the final boss

[plain jacinth]

like the explosion damage is unaffected by range

[frigid hatch]

it's a Navigator farm

[willow grotto]

Was prophecy farmable this week?

[frigid hatch]

yes

[blissful scaffold]

Ye

Go forth

[willow grotto]

I'll have to get a judgement with headstone tomorrow, then

[formal condor]

You only get three chances it doesn’t matter if it’s weekly for exotics it’s not farmable

[blissful scaffold]

And farm the bounty

[inner sandal]

go get em champ 🥹

[fervent veldt]

i kinda want that void shotty for pve tbh

[willow grotto]

Can you check which encounter drops it?

[blissful scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/run-forest-gump-running-late-work-gif-8011415

[terse sun]

i think for now it'll be deliverance + phyllotactic spiral
seems like a solid loadout pick, cant wait to be disappointed :D

[blissful scaffold]

The fatty

[formal condor]

I think I have no idea if it is farmable

[frigid hatch]

bzzzt, wrong, was doing a farm earlier and my last party did 3 runs on the same toons before they both got it and bailed on me

[willow grotto]

Oh, ez solo farm then lol

[inner sandal]

another phylo enjoyer

[formal condor]

That’s weird

[willow grotto]

Just climb up the tube and wail away

[terse sun]

i have literally never used the gun. its just the only arc pulse in my vault

[frigid hatch]

dungeons loot, exotics included, are farmable if they are on the weekly Rotator

[inner sandal]

LOL

[willow grotto]

Wtf kinda weapon is phylotactic spiral

[frigid hatch]

and this week is GOTD and Prophecy

[formal condor]

I would join but I only know up until simmy I don’t know her encounter

[plain jacinth]

krait is a pretty satisfying headstone weapon.

subsistence + veist stinger = shooting for days

[inner sandal]

under-over+frenzy is so nice

[terse sun]

i just shot it for the first time and jesus christ i feel like im on a rollercoaster with that up-down-up-down

[frigid hatch]

i'll skull drag you idc, hell i'll even put up a FTC and just teach it to you while we're at it

[fervent veldt]

i sharded a few god rolls of that tbh

[blissful scaffold]

@willow grotto STOP

[willow grotto]

Krait feels like it hits like a wet noodle

[frigid hatch]

Simmumah mechanics are just the same thing you've done throughout the rest of the dungeon

[formal condor]

Let me hop on then

[willow grotto]

?

[terse sun]

i got under-over voltshot, is under-over actually a good perk though?

[fervent veldt]

its why i dont like autos

[terse sun]

reading it, it seems terrible..

[blissful scaffold]

@willow grotto

[willow grotto]

Oof

[frigid hatch]

you can get my join code off my profile, i gotta find another goober because of my last attempt to get people just now lmao

[inner sandal]

under-over is anti-shield, i think it includes barriers (dont quote me on that)

[willow grotto]

Guess i'll spend all day looking for kell echo points

[formal condor]

Okay

[fervent veldt]

only 3 drops in the cube??? its gonna be a bit easy farming for a sudden death

[terse sun]

it does, according to light.gg, but pulses cant break barriers anyway

[fervent veldt]

it counts

[plain jacinth]

L

[inner sandal]

yeah under-over is a 125% buff vs stuff like cabal tech packs and lucent moths, and a 50% buff vs regular shields and barrier champs

[fervent veldt]

not really

[willow grotto]

5 drops from dungeon end, and 3 of them are armod

F my chungus life, i g

[fervent veldt]

fck my fungus life 🍄

[inner sandal]

more dmg is more dmg for add slaying

[terse sun]

true, true

[inner sandal]

yesterday i saw a mushroom in my backyard that looked like a carrot with a lil honeycomb hat

[terse sun]

i also just realised that i have facet of solitude for debuff applying, and ive gone through all of this effort to find chill clip stuff

ah, actually, it'd require about the same effort as wicked implement now that i think about it. nvm

[inner sandal]

banshee selling a demo/chill clip typhon rn

[fervent veldt]

😴

[plain jacinth]

what is typhon

don't say wave frame power gl

[terse sun]

fml, i just levelled a deliverance to 20

all my glimmer. gone.

[iron sinew]

wicked implement to my vault

[plain jacinth]

boo hoo glimmer is a dime a dozen

just do some heroic public events

or go to rahool if ur realy desperate

[fervent veldt]

this tbh

[terse sun]

i ran out of rahool tradeable stuff

[plain jacinth]

i sentence you to public events

[terse sun]

i've been masterworking half a dozen armour sets and levelling up multiple guns daily, i do not have glimmer

[plain jacinth]

and blueberries who don't know how to make them heroic!! wahaha

[terse sun]

i am unironically getting most of my glimmer from clearing out my vault of armour with 48 stat rolls

and a lot of onslaught

[plain jacinth]

you could do what some freaks do and buy legendayr ships or sparrows then salvage em later when u need em

[terse sun]

and hawthorne engrams

[plain jacinth]

keep em in ur vault i guess

[terse sun]

my vault is already full of legendary ships, sparrows and ghost shells

[fervent veldt]

its funny how i keep getting god rolls unsuspectingly for the most mid weapons possible for pve

[terse sun]

so, er, kinda beat you to it

[plain jacinth]

ur opinions on weapons are mid ngl

[terse sun]

i just counted quickly, i have 122 legendary eververse drops in my vault

fun fact :D
i guess?

[fervent veldt]

not really

[blissful scaffold]

Chat....

[fervent veldt]

give me an example

[blissful scaffold]

Rip titan shoulder

[fervent veldt]

yeahhh the concept art always looks better

[plain jacinth]

i remember really being pissed about one result

probably warlocks voting for evil

[terse sun]

TIL there was an armour set vote

[plain jacinth]

oh yeah good hunter looked kinda unique too but people vote for edge instead

superblack spammers shouldn't have voting rights tbh

[blissful scaffold]

Yup, that is why u need to check your bungie email

[fervent veldt]

BatChest hecking edgy!!!

[terse sun]

ngl, i have more important emails to check for, so those ones fly past my eyes anyway

[fervent veldt]

we were robbed

the good sets look so nice

[blissful scaffold]

Yeah u says that and look at what they did to good set titan

[maiden glacier]

hello hello how can i get the class item even though its bugged
do i need to get it on normal first before doing it on master for artefice ?

[terse sun]

im gonna be completely honest i agree with the outcome of the vote

[fervent veldt]

grahhhbh

[inner sandal]

puffy pants

[fervent veldt]

such a good theme

[upper echo]

Good hunter looks mid compared to bad hunter

[fervent veldt]

^^^

[inner sandal]

we already have the bad hunter set

[fervent veldt]

well

[inner sandal]

im sure its in collections somewhere, multiple times over

[fervent veldt]

idk why they dont just add both

[blissful scaffold]

Hunter nearly got that MC HAmmer pant

[upper echo]

Good hunter looks mid af. Would rather have good fashion than unique mid fashion

[plain jacinth]

effort

tho maybe if we got 2x sets the game would suffer elsewhere

[fervent veldt]

are you on tomorrow

[plain jacinth]

careful what u wish for

[plain jacinth]

y

[inner sandal]

game is already suffering

more onslought for seasonal activity zzzz

[fervent veldt]

found out the challenge for coop missions werent retroactive

[blissful scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-gif-21766790

[inner sandal]

[blissful scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-batman-gif-6153870554148391864

https://tenor.com/view/novela-telenovela-shocked-zoom-omg-gif-25795602

[inner sandal]

couldnt even make a new model for a new frame smh

it deserves double barrels

[fervent veldt]

could care less tbh about reskins

[blissful scaffold]

For god sake, they make it heavy burst

[charred yacht]

I just want cool perk combos yea

bungie has been reskinning for years

[blissful scaffold]

Smt like this

[next chasm]

Does the onslaught salvation bug still exist where expert is still like 2010 across the board or did they fix it?

[blissful scaffold]

Fixed

It is too late to apologize

[plain jacinth]

those guns became irrelevant so fast

[next chasm]

Bummer Havent been active much didnt get to abuse it lol

[plain jacinth]

remember when we only had 17 usable weapons after sunsetting?

or some really small number close to that

[hallow wasp]

wdym became irrelevant they were irrelevant before releasing

[inner sandal]

i liked the auto rifle

[dull goblet]

Anybody know when Bungo will fix the ignition glitch that's making bosses take like 1/4 damage from ignitions? It applies to minibosses in nightfalls, too, frustratingly

[plain jacinth]

er no i think it was only 17 new weapons

[plain jacinth]

i did too for a while, had a triple tap + thresh roll, got rid of it eventually however

[blissful scaffold]

Rather they adding it to be better, they rework some of those into new guns

[terse sun]

oh damn I gotta go to sleep chat

[plain jacinth]

🤷‍♂️

im sure the europa weapons will get reprised eventually

i don't think they should be high on the priority list tho

[terse sun]

ty for the build ideas, but it is 6 am and alas, I must bounce

[carmine wind]

moon weapon reprisal when

[inner sandal]

have a good day at work/school/nap

[plain jacinth]

didn't the moon weapons get reprised somehow? not with foundry perks tho

[carmine wind]

yeah back in season of the chosen

[plain jacinth]

i remember for some reason they became slightly relevant again at some point

still a pain in the ass to farm so i never cared too much

[inner sandal]

i miss drop mag on arc logic

[plain jacinth]

for what, guardian rank 8?

[fervent veldt]

yah