💬destiny-chat

[polar patio]

Vesper’s Host is very Wrath of the Machine and I love it

[bright tartan]

no i said celestial snap was good and ball lightning was good, those are the only other 2 warlock melees i like

[stiff galleon]

the damage is like good enough for how refundable it is

[copper bronze]

Does anyone else ever make a build and not have an exotic wep because your legendaries are all BiS for what you're doing?

[bright tartan]

idk i think snap is kinda trash

[wanton halo]

how is transendence pointless..

[frozen swift]

Ehhh idk if they buffed it recently but when it first came out it felt awful

[bright tartan]

the range makes it annoying

[light arrow]

[stiff galleon]

in pve, no

[bright tartan]

why would i transcend when i could just like, use arc souls

and make a million turrets

[wanton halo]

a lot yes because sometimes double special legendaries are just fine

[copper bronze]

I've had a few case instances where champ mods and such line up a weird way that I end up doing that and people think I'm crazy lmao

[sour plume]

why would i use arc souls when i could just like, transcend

[light arrow]

because you do 5% more damage, you get a hybrid grenade, you get 13% dr, your abilities refresh. What are you even saying

[bright tartan]

please just let us consume transcendance grenades i would transcend if you could do that

[stiff galleon]

i dont think im ever in a pve situation where i wouldnt have an exotic, because the best add clears are exotic and there are good dps supplements that are exotic

[wanton halo]

that is all pointless..

[bright tartan]

im pretty sure the damage of my arc soul/watchers probably does more than the 5% i gain

[wanton halo]

Hello?

[stiff galleon]

if im using a really general loadout, im just on choir of one because that thing is flexible and strong as hell

[bright tartan]

while transcended

[copper bronze]

I don't have choir

[light arrow]

You're also lost

[wanton halo]

I am mocking them 💔

[bright tartan]

also idc about dr because i heal to full like every 1 second

[stiff galleon]

you should get it if you can

[light arrow]

[wanton halo]

i gave up on this person its either a troll or just someone whos not very good and i dont mean that in a rude way its just

[stiff galleon]

even after the nerfs this season choir is kind of ridiculous imo

[bright tartan]

transcending is good on boss fights but outside of that its like, not worth using

[light arrow]

Getaway artist players

[wanton halo]

this is a terrible read

[sour plume]

you sound like you destroy low end content with a passion

[sour plume]

half the game twan

[bright tartan]

i literally have multiple day 1s

[coarse burrow]

[copper bronze]

I got burned out and missed most of everything after FS

[sour plume]

all with arc souls u r geeked

[light arrow]

Mataiodoxia I trust

[bright tartan]

also i wouldnt use prislock in a day 1 because

its mid

[sour plume]

na ur trollin

[light arrow]

bro's wasting his damage supers

[stiff galleon]

yeah echoes isnt great but choir of one is worth the effort

abberant action too

[bright tartan]

i think strand reloads outweighs the damage you get from star eaters nova, especially post nerf

[copper bronze]

Thanks I'll check out how to get it.

[light arrow]

What you think means nothing to actual results bro

[bright tartan]

like strandloading a grenade launcher with izi swap probably just cooks the one off nova bomb

mid in boss fights

but maybe the prismatic nova is that good idk

[brazen fern]

nah bro what is this bait

[bright tartan]

i would have to see updated damage charts post nerf

[light arrow]

"Probably"?? do you know anything outside of your own theory crafting?😭

[tired oriole]

☠️

[sour plume]

u do not have a single raid or dungeon clear

[bright tartan]

eal

[tired oriole]

bruh

[copper bronze]

Bungo plz make the next legendary aggressive scout, arc with that new jolt perk on it ❤️

[tired oriole]

hi

[sour plume]

bait still has to be flamed 🙏

[bright tartan]

people just like prislock because its easy and you dont have to think

you just pick up 6 orbs and probably use thunderlords because you are on controller

[sour plume]

does anyone know when rankings drop for contest vespers

[light arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/takumi-nishijou-chaos-head-steins-gate-anime-gif-27653854

[hybrid matrix]

Sorry

[tired oriole]

what am i reading

[wanton halo]

when you realize 90% of the game takes no thinking

[light arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/chef-skinner-suprised-speeded-up-ratatouille-version2-gif-20704217

[hybrid matrix]

Idk rage bait probably

[copper bronze]

EL>BnS on rockets and I will die on this hill RIP

[bright tartan]

people are still convinced that cooked euphony build is the best dps

because of youtubers

[hybrid matrix]

What if both have their use cases 😧

[tired oriole]

BLOCKED AND REPORTED

[copper bronze]

lmao I know unpooular opinon xD

[wanton halo]

you think ball lightning is good..

[light arrow]

I can respect that opinion

[wanton halo]

ur opinion is objectively wrong..

[tired oriole]

honestly i miss explosive light being the meta buff pls

[copper bronze]

they do, bns is better for raid dps, but I feel like el is better everywhere else since you are just cooking majors with it usually.

[tired oriole]

bring back palmyra

[wanton halo]

el buff for rockets to suck

[tired oriole]

yes

[rugged flume]

Dungeon Pantheon with the corrupted puppeteer is gonna be rough

[hybrid matrix]

Yep

[bright tartan]

prislock players when theyre on the witness and half of their star eaters super gets immuned (ehroar said it was good though)

[light arrow]

If simmumah is in dungeon pantheon, that's gonna blow

[copper bronze]

when that was the only red border rocket anyone had lmao

[rugged flume]

Oh dude i'd hate that so much

[wanton halo]

... ..- ... trying to kill an ad but all they have is a getaway artist and a ball lightning (they died and killed nothing)

[hybrid matrix]

Just pop a well

[copper bronze]

simpler times

[rugged flume]

simmumah is the only d2 boss I acc hate

[bright tartan]

EL is technically the best damage perk i think, as long as you pick up an orb every second

[wanton halo]

????

[light arrow]

Wizard bosses are such great design

[tired oriole]

it was good for contest vow and then linears decided to be "better"

even tho rockets were better the whole time

[copper bronze]

I did not like the linear meta so boring for me

[bright tartan]

arent rockets still better

[tired oriole]

nah

[wanton halo]

well they were only good because an exotic rocket launcher chunking

[bright tartan]

outside of burst phases

[copper bronze]

But all the lfg was "bring linear"

[tired oriole]

linear pew pew pew pew

[light arrow]

I think we just got more options for good linears, at the time it was either the trials linear or cata if you were lucky

[serene kraken]

i love being radioactive

[bright tartan]

linears are back?

[wanton halo]

and i dont think the average lfg knew that wolfpacks would destroy healthbars

[tired oriole]

no

[copper bronze]

nah they suck

[bright tartan]

lol

[copper bronze]

farmed for adept scint and its trash

[light arrow]

and then the season following vow drop we got the veist linear

[bright tartan]

im just going to izi swap with rocket anyways because i dont want to farm edge transit

[copper bronze]

finally got around to that a week ago... I swear it took 80 drops

[light arrow]

did all that for 3 gls to drop that compete with edge

[rugged flume]

Bungie fr heard ppl talking abt RoN and said "bet"
After RoN, we got Crota's (super hard contest), Ghosts (final boss is evil), WR (not awful tbh) SE (hardest raid) and Vesper's

[bright tartan]

you can literally go afk in vespers host with getaway, you have to be a new light

[light arrow]

As they should

[copper bronze]

The only time I've ever had to farm that much was trying get red border calus from presage. I got really good at shatter skating lmao

[light arrow]

of course you can now, it's a normal mode dungeon with zero stakes

[bright tartan]

is vespers even really that hard though

[light arrow]

was on contest

[wanton halo]

u can go afk in every part of this game and finish it when ur team skulldrags u

👍

[bright tartan]

? who tf does dungeons in a fireteam

its a dungeon

[wanton halo]

did u solo contest vesper 🤑

[light arrow]

I got friends that enjoy my company

[tired oriole]

You dont dungeons at all

[copper bronze]

I wish strand didn't suck now if you arent doing the grenade punch strat

[bright tartan]

do you also need a team for heroic whisper?

maybe get a fireteam and do some patrols?

[tired oriole]

i need to unlock all of prismatic

[wanton halo]

u just completely ignored the question

[tired oriole]

so i can be a titan main again

[copper bronze]

Why no exotic that makes tangle cool down smaller and cure on tangle kills QQ

[wanton halo]

im starting to think ur an alt and u just spend ur days chatting in big lfg out of boredom..

[rugged flume]

Bait used to be funny icl

[light arrow]

Bro's flexing the friendless status

[tired oriole]

ima solo vesper now

[bright tartan]

is vespers host even hard though? it doesnt really feel hard

[light arrow]

Likely

[copper bronze]

Still need to solo Avarace no death. but its so aids... I hate that dungeon

[bright tartan]

i feel like the vespers bosses have less hp than the warlords ones

[copper bronze]

And I know I'm gonna die on the sparrow part... I suck at it so bad.

[tired oriole]

its ab the same

[tired oriole]

watch a path video and then replicate it first try like i did

[bright tartan]

warlords would be a good dungeon if they just removed the ogre encounter

[lusty geyser]

💀

[copper bronze]

yeah you right I need too. But my stubborn ass... fml

[rugged flume]

Ogre is fun

[bright tartan]

ogre is mind numbing

kill ads for 3 minutes, do like 1/10th of the bosses hp bc youre on warlock, repeat

[tired oriole]

all dungeons r mind numbing they used to be fun to solo

[light arrow]

False

[tired oriole]

u can 4 phase on warlock

[bright tartan]

dungeons solo used to be harder actually

[rugged flume]

Get a fireteam?

[silver kraken]

Has it been confirmed you don’t get the emblem if you are still in contest ?

[rugged flume]

Which dungeons, specifically

[rugged flume]

yeah that has never worked even in raids

[bright tartan]

people who think vespers is hard have no idea how difficult solo flawless actually was on stuff like prophecy

[light arrow]

retrofit ah dps

[silver kraken]

Didn’t it work for salvations edge

[tired oriole]

pit was hard til it became base power

[bright tartan]

pit was just buggy

[copper bronze]

I disagree. Back before recluse/mountain were nerfed and you had faction resist mods it was much easier.

[bright tartan]

pit still is buggy

[tired oriole]

no

[light arrow]

Was fun to solo with hush and 21%

[rugged flume]

Totem room in pit was tough

[stiff galleon]

back in my day youd get your head sawn off by a viet cong and nobody cried about it

[bright tartan]

pit is weird because theres like 1 randomly hard encounter and its in the middle of the dungeon, the final boss and first are like not even real encounters

[tired oriole]

now its free

[finite urchin]

what do people mean I can focus for weapons on the new dungeon?

[copper bronze]

• anarchy

[bright tartan]

lol

[rugged flume]

Finish the catalyst and you can do it

[rugged flume]

also CWL mods were a thinmg

[bright tartan]

prophecy in arrivals was maybe the hardest a SF dungeon has been ever outside of ghosts

[gleaming kayak]

What do y’all think about the new dungeon??

[lusty geyser]

2nd worst dungeon

[strange veldt]

do i really have to be 2030 to do onslaught?

[bright tartan]

prophecy in arrivals was actually insane

[light arrow]

its fun

[stiff galleon]

i like it

[silver kraken]

Man that sucks I’ve been sitting in this dungeon forever

[gleaming kayak]

Stelti is a hater fr 😭🙏

[balmy patio]

Skip the class item quest, come grab the chest, and leave afterwards! /join Def#4515

[stiff galleon]

enjoyable mechanics unlike a certain ghost that is deep

[rocky geyser]

I got solo flawless week 1 pit

[light birch]

I was getting about 1 exotic engram per every two lost sector completions, but now that I need 1 more to unlock the new hunter exotic, of course I've gone 6 runs without a single one

[rocky geyser]

Was a lot of fun

[tired oriole]

no

[strange veldt]

thank you fox

[bright tartan]

your loadout was basically mandatory, you HAD to use mountaintop anarchy and even then it was like a 4 phase at least for the final boss

[stiff galleon]

my only issue so far with vesper's is that i like pretty much none of the loot including armor

[tired oriole]

💯

[hybrid matrix]

Bring back mt anarchy meta

[charred yacht]

💯

[rugged flume]

Vespers will prolly be a harder solo than old Proph. Oppresssive Darkness was a thing

[charred yacht]

Mt recluse anarchy 😍😍

[bright tartan]

people who think vesper sf is too hard, imagine having like 1 specific build to even make the dungeon possible which required pvp triumphs

[light arrow]

it'll mostly be the final boss giving people trouble

[rugged flume]

Oh yeah for sure

[charred yacht]

Buff smgs bunger im bored of handcannons

[bright tartan]

isnt there a spot in vespers you can sit for dps where the boss cant even really hit you

[rugged flume]

Peacekeepers 🙏🏽

[light arrow]

smgs were good for like 2 expansion😭

[rocky geyser]

Make slug shotguns the best again

[light arrow]

not even including recluses reign

[rugged flume]

Dawg to test it just solo it and let us know

[bright tartan]

i wont touch an smg until they nerf sunshot into the ground

[charred yacht]

Old Recluse was peak

[bright tartan]

why would you use anything except sunshot

[tender spindle]

The boss and the clones can hit you. The AOE effect cant tho

[stiff galleon]

choir of one clears

[bright tartan]

graviton is like a worse sunshot that can also hurt you

[charred yacht]

Ikelos smg + warmind cells also peak

[stiff galleon]

graviton doesnt knock bricks around and also its aoe lingers

it has its uses

[bright tartan]

riskrunner is like maybe the only good smg i could see someone using that

[wanton halo]

i use both sunshot and grav lance

[stiff galleon]

^

[rocky geyser]

Buffed master of arms is alright now

[charred yacht]

I need bungie to just make an exotic that does what the old warmind cells did

[orchid plinth]

whats solo dps meta for raneiks

[bright tartan]

sunshot has synergy with ignitions and it doesnt hurt you and its a better weapon archetype

[orchid plinth]

warlock prismatic

[rugged flume]

Behemoth star eaters

[rocky geyser]

Titan prism

[bright tartan]

gravitons should apply volatile imo

[rugged flume]

Song of Flame

[orchid plinth]

.

[charred yacht]

I think the heavy wave frame with one for all is really good

[orchid plinth]

aight ill try it

[wanton halo]

im using warlock prism with ehavy wave frame envious vorpal

[bright tartan]

use uhh whisper

[charred yacht]

Use one for all sir

[orchid plinth]

dont got that

[bright tartan]

whisper is pretty good

[orchid plinth]

i deleted all my heavy wave frames

[sour kestrel]

Completed act 1 echoes but ikora doesn't have the quest for act 2 help lol

[slim thorn]

Guys how in the hell does this tonic system work exactly? It seems so stupidly complex

[charred yacht]

Just craft the stasis one

[tender spindle]

Ikelos is godtier for both boss encounters

[wanton halo]

whisper only did 1.1m in a phase when i used it

[orchid plinth]

sof on what, solar or pris

[wanton halo]

the heavy GL clears it easy

[bright tartan]

riskrunner is just kind of OP in general in fallen dungeons and raids because its always active

also the dr is insane

[light arrow]

wonder if surrounded works on raneiks

[charred yacht]

Smg damage is just so trash now tho

[bright tartan]

ive heard grand overture is good on raneiks

[orchid plinth]

how about sleeper

[slim thorn]

For the gear tonics it works as a bounty with a 20 min timer? How do I get the reward for it exactly?

[tender spindle]

Parasite

[orchid plinth]

parasite is dogshit

[tender spindle]

Or prospector

[light arrow]

you have not even seen videos of vesper 💀

[bright tartan]

theyre basically the same gun

[tender spindle]

Or wardcliff

[light arrow]

for solo?

[orchid plinth]

parasite is horrible

[tender spindle]

Not at all

[bright tartan]

wait is overture a machine gun

[orchid plinth]

wardcliff can 1 phase from what ive seen

[bright tartan]

parasite you technically have synergy with that artifact mod

[charred yacht]

Solo??

[orchid plinth]

not solo

[tender spindle]

Parasite was literally the only way to clear servitor boss during contest dont even bruh

[light arrow]

No you do not

[bright tartan]

wait did they really make the boss count as a vehicle again

[bright tartan]

it doesnt weaken?

[orchid plinth]

no clue

[tender spindle]

It does weaken

[light arrow]

that for breach gls😭

[orchid plinth]

wardcliff and so many other options are better

[bright tartan]

it says any grenade launcher

[light arrow]

does it?!?

[sour plume]

my team used stasis titan super

[tender spindle]

Wardcliff was disabled during contest

[charred yacht]

I used wardcliff and was disappointed idk

[slim thorn]

Well damn ok then

[bright tartan]

it just says "grenade launchers weaken when you hit bosses"

[wanton halo]

its for any GL

[charred yacht]

It wasnt actually

[orchid plinth]

and?

[charred yacht]

They just said it was lol

[wanton halo]

time to take my performance enhancing drugs to make my GL do more damage

[tender spindle]

Well my point was that prasite was goated for servitor on contest, and you seemed to disagree

[wanton halo]

aka use tonics

[tender spindle]

There is no “and”

[orchid plinth]

mid mid mid

[chrome parcel]

glacial quake + parasite 🔥

[bright tartan]

wait so is the dps phase fast or slow

[charred yacht]

Fast

[bright tartan]

why are people using whisper

[orchid plinth]

burst dps

[tender spindle]

For servitor its like 10-15 seconds

[charred yacht]

Trolling idk

[light arrow]

go watch videos or play the dungeon

[tender spindle]

They arent very smart

[orchid plinth]

any aoe damage option is probably viable

[stiff galleon]

😭

[bright tartan]

wait what kind of enemy is the final boss

[orchid plinth]

atraks 2.0

[charred yacht]

Parasite is goated for the first encounter

[light arrow]

potential??

[orchid plinth]

exo guy

[orchid plinth]

meh

[bright tartan]

maybe microchosm works

[orchid plinth]

i mean probably ig

[stiff galleon]

vro argued that prophecy was so much harder than vesper's and then knows like nothing about vesper's

[charred yacht]

I bet it works good

[orchid plinth]

proph harder than vesper 💀

[tender spindle]

If you arent using grand overture on final you are throwing

[bright tartan]

someone should test microchosm and see if he's coded the same was as those darkness guys

[orchid plinth]

vesper isnt hard but its not that easy

[orchid plinth]

sure i will rn

[bright tartan]

prophecy definitely used to be harder than vesper

[light arrow]

need to find out for myself

[bright tartan]

back in arrivals we did not have healing

[carmine wind]

it was harder at one point, yeah

[bright tartan]

unless you were a warlock, you basically didnt heal ever

[stiff galleon]

yeah thats why the world's first prophecy only took an hour

[charred yacht]

Its just power creep if we did vesper back in arrivals it would have been cooked

[tender spindle]

Yup

[light arrow]

devour has been in the game for a long time

[bright tartan]

thats with a fireteam

[light arrow]

since y1 some could say

[bright tartan]

im talking about solo flawless

[orchid plinth]

https://discord.com/channels/356833056562348042/671795686693404697 testing microcosm and some others

[carmine wind]

contest mode does NOT exist

[stiff galleon]

if you wanna argue that powercreep made prophecy harder, it shouldnt matter

[bright tartan]

yeah that was like your only healing option in prophecy

[orchid plinth]

microcosm is apparently good against final

[charred yacht]

The only hardish encounter in prophecy is the final boss

[carmine wind]

it only was harder back then
now its piss easy lmao

[light arrow]

hunters had invis which is basically an escape pass

[carmine wind]

go-go gadget parasite/whisper go brrr

[lilac wraith]

which kirby is that

[bright tartan]

you had devour, if your grenade wasnt up or there werent any enemies around and youre getting beamed by the boss, get ready to spend another 2 hours in the dungeon getting back there

[lilac wraith]

i know like 10

[orchid plinth]

THE kirby

[carmine wind]

rat king

[bright tartan]

ive been a microcosm believer since day 1

ive always said it was good and people didnt believe me but it was always good

[carmine wind]

rat king is how i did sf prophecy, even as a hunter.

[bright tartan]

you kinda had to use anarchy

[orchid plinth]

i legit only ever use it for the exotic class item mission bro

[light arrow]

[bright tartan]

unless you wanted to spend like 9 phases on the boss

[light arrow]

Bro get a vesper clear

play the dungeon😭

[carmine wind]

i spent 3/4 with heir apparant after swapping during the setup phase so ik that's not true

[bright tartan]

because the boss and the vandals beam you the whole time so you cant sit in the open and dps, plus you do the platforms

[brazen fern]

guys will i clear the dungeon with pulses and snipers only⁉️

[carmine wind]

yes i used heir apparant for my sf because that overshield was so freaking helpful, + didnt have mountaintop so

[bright tartan]

also nova takes off a decent chunk and is a good emergency heal

yeah people dont realize how much we have now i think

[brazen fern]

me when the heir is in fact apparent

[carmine wind]

i can use arc and not feel like im throwing its so much of a difference

[tender spindle]

Unfortunately i think the solo triumph for this dungeon will be impossible on anything besides warlock

[light arrow]

you're acting like most people in this chat haven't played y1 of destiny 2 probably

[bright tartan]

there were no stasis turrets, there was no woven mail, and the ammo econ was much worse. if you got caught off guard by an elite you just died

[brazen fern]

void hunter got deleted for contest 🤯

unless you used spectral

[bright tartan]

i assume most people are new lights

[carmine wind]

imagine using spectral at any point in time

[novel quiver]

does no one sherpa witness anymore

[light arrow]

Not in here

[bright tartan]

also voidlock was good BEFORE witch queen, then it got worse

[novel quiver]

I remember seeing everyone do it

but no one is

[brazen fern]

i bet some weird diehard void hunters used spectral on contest cause they didnt have a choice

and got stuck on 1st

[bright tartan]

3.0 was the worst thing to happen to voidlock, and then they target nerfed both of voidlocks best exotics for literally no reason

[carmine wind]

real

[copper bronze]

why no subsistence on timeworn, that makes me so sad.

[carmine wind]

i used arc hunter for 1st and 2nd.
swapped to wellock for final

[bright tartan]

me when bungie has to nerf nezeracs sin because it was op (it wasnt even that good)

[carmine wind]

using arc hunter, not pris, ARC hunter in a worlds first (dungeon) was wild to me

[rocky geyser]

What void warlock tree had the charged up grenades?

[bright tartan]

me when bungie has to remove all the extra damage from charged grenades in 3.0 for literally no reason

[light arrow]

first month handheld supernova in crucible

Warlocks have never seen power like that ever again like pre nerfed middle tree voidwalker

[bright tartan]

someone did a damage test and a full charge contraverse vortex in 3.0 did like 1/3 the damage of a single fusion grenade

[copper bronze]

can I not unlock the rest of the echo things since I wasn't playing?

[tender spindle]

Me when bungie makes contest mode not actually a contest at all by locking survivability behind certain classes

[copper bronze]

I don't have red border abherrent

[rocky geyser]

I used to use nezerec sin with recluse on void warlock

[bright tartan]

hhsn is still in the game its just mid now

[copper bronze]

burnt out took a break

[bright tartan]

i just dont get the reasoning behind nerfing charge grenades in 3.0

i still think solo void is better than solo solar tho

[copper bronze]

I found it

[rocky geyser]

Speakers sight is quite the helmet

[rustic arrow]

its a mask

[bright tartan]

speakers sight is solar warlocks life support machine rn

also please remove healing grenades from prismatic and give us fusion or solar, thank you

nobody is using healing grenades, why would they give us the worst solar grenade choice

i guess, kinda saccing survivability on that build

[tender spindle]

Healing grenades were so clutch in contest mode

[bright tartan]

the resolve ember is not enough in some encounters

[bright tartan]

yeah but i mean on prismatic specifically

[tender spindle]

Solar grenades are ass anyways they dont do much damage

[bright tartan]

healing grenades are really good on solar, theyre unusable on prismatic

i think fusion does the most damage of any grenade

from any class

except maybe grapple melee

[rocky geyser]

You can spam phoenix dive with the right fragments and I like hellion

[dense ermine]

anyone know if theres a graphic for what drops from what encounter of this dungeon

[bright tartan]

yeah but then i cant use bleak watcher getaway

i just dont get the reasoning behind healing grenades on prismatic, yeah im going to give up my grenade on a subclass where i literally heal to full every like 2 seconds

[rocky geyser]

I use the void grenade weaken fragment

[bright tartan]

also speakers sight on prismatic is like, a meme

[light arrow]

not on prismatic

[dense ermine]

probably cuz they came out with a helemt that works around healing nade at the same time

[bright tartan]

yea but why would you ever use speakers sight on prismatic

when you could use it on solar and its like 20x better

[worn shell]

I ran GOS once on my titan this week. Can i run it again for spoils + drops?

[bright tartan]

i thought solars couldnt damage the same target

[dense ermine]

no, lol. im just saying thats probably why they did it

[bright tartan]

this is why they need to revert starfire nerf

let solo players have fun on solar

[orchid plinth]

microcosm does NOT work

[bright tartan]

pain

[willow grotto]

so... what's the meta for raneiks? prospector?

[orchid plinth]

also song is dog

[light arrow]

yeah use nova

[orchid plinth]

testing wardcliff

[willow grotto]

i've been using wardcliff and it gets a 4 phase solo

with nova bomb*

[worn shell]

I ran GOS once on my titan this week. Can i run it again for spoils + drops?

[light arrow]

and be broken in team settings all over again

[winged owl]

Im gonna break you cyclo

[light arrow]

You will try

[bright tartan]

me watching bungie nerf stasis warlock again (grapple melee does like 100k damage)

[wanton halo]

i suck at making tea

[rocky geyser]

Is there anyway you get 3 grenade at once?

[bright tartan]

starfires wasnt even really broken prenerf

[winged owl]

It was a smecksual innuendo not a threat of violence

[bright tartan]

especially because only 1-2 people could do it at a time

[light arrow]

It was more of a timing thing, at the time what else gave you that much extra damage for simply wearing

aside from super exotics

[light arrow]

[bright tartan]

people cried about starfire while ignoring titan doing like 2m damage with a single thundercrash

[upbeat quarry]

its just not 2 mil

[bright tartan]

yeah 20m

[willow grotto]

btw, what does the prospector's catalyst do?

[bright tartan]

so is this saltagreppos alt or can you not form an original thought without seeing a youtuber's opinion first

idk i dont watch salt i just assume he has the take that would make the game less fun

[light arrow]

"...at the time"

[willow grotto]

are we forgotten how the chicken in spire of the watcher was getting absolutely cooked by starfire rotations

[bright tartan]

people be like "starfires is broken" and then ignore solar titan being an unkillable god class since 3.0 launched

[stiff galleon]

lucky pants also got a nerf

[upbeat quarry]

still hunt also got a nerf

[bright tartan]

starfires is broken (me doing sf spire without ever once being in dager of dying because i played solar titan)

[stiff galleon]

solar titan just straight up isnt broken rn

[upbeat quarry]

sunbreaker sucks ass rn bruh fym

it hasnt been good since it lost resto 2x

[light arrow]

My point still stands lmao

[lusty geyser]

spire has to be the easiest dungeon to sf

[bright tartan]

was the resto nerf really that bad?

[orchid plinth]

titan is mid

starfire was broken and boring

[stiff galleon]

no bro solar titan is broken because it can sf a dungeon (literally any subclass can)

[bright tartan]

im a warlock so i dont really have resto x1

[orchid plinth]

rocket swap meta has and will always be the best

[bright tartan]

is resto x1 bad?

[upbeat quarry]

yes very

[bright tartan]

shame

[orchid plinth]

💀

me when tcrash

me when starfire isnt burst dps

[toxic rapids]

where is the new dungeon lol?? i cant find it in the director lmao

[upbeat quarry]

dont watch ron speeds during defiance guys

or kf speeds during defiance

[bright tartan]

yeah now you have to use a different solar grenade exotic to kill majors, game balance restored

[orchid plinth]

and??

it was not starfire, therefore your claim is pointless

starfire is not burst dps

if you used starfire on ct you are brain damaged

[light arrow]

"Niche player population wasn't using this for this specific encounter" 😭

[upbeat quarry]

😭 😭

[severe skiff]

Alright y'all, since tether is disabled in Vespers what should I run for Hunter?

[violet knoll]

For the 4th step of the Rogue Network quest (the part where i need to do 3 puzzles) the third puzzle is not spawning? Like the panel and the plates arent here. Am i missing something?

[bright tartan]

good thing they nerfed starfires so people were forced to use sunbracers which might actually be more broken than starfires was

[sly needle]

The newest dungeon's exotic is farmable at all times, right? Or is it 3x per week (per class)

[upbeat quarry]

bro wants everyone in ct to get 5x death throes

[stiff galleon]

celestial ig, i dont really think any super is worth it as hunter until tether is enabled

[brazen fern]

caretaker = atheon

[stiff galleon]

just rdm wardcliff dump or something

[upbeat quarry]

keeping entire orphanage alive

[bright tartan]

hunters really have the weakest mental

"oh tether is disabled what can i do" you literally have the best damage super and most survivability of any class

[upbeat quarry]

for everything but exotic

[stiff galleon]

no way you are getting mad because someone asked what the strat for a boss is on hunter

[willow grotto]

okay, wardcliff deffo better than prospector for raneiks

[upbeat quarry]

hm yes pris hunter lives better than berserker

[orchid plinth]

is this guy trying to prove that starfire wasnt broken

[silk sundial]

Has anyone gotten the new shotgun frame yet?

[bright tartan]

if you play hunter you will not survive the coming tide

[light arrow]

something like that

[bright tartan]

we need to rise up and nerf hunter and titan to the ground

[upbeat quarry]

every class is good rn bruh shut up

[stiff galleon]

it has to be bait atp

[bright tartan]

hunters always play the victim and pretend their class is weak while being able to be in invis 100% of the time, have the most dps, and have a broken exotic gun literally made for them

[quaint fog]

That’s funny bro

[orchid plinth]

hunters are by far the best class right now

[quaint fog]

Didn’t realise we was making jokes

[rugged flume]

NGL Ghosts might be a harder solo than Vespers but we'll see

[bright tartan]

dont worry im sure the nova bomb grenade launcher and thundercrash sword are coming guys

[stiff galleon]

there isnt a single hunter here playing victim, you were just here crying about sunbreaker being overpowered because starfire got nerfed

[orchid plinth]

titans are pretty hogshit for dps

[frigid magnet]

I've the catalyst for ice breaker 🔥🔥🔥 juss need the gun now

[quaint fog]

Hi bbc :)

[orchid plinth]

sunbreaker 💀

[lusty geyser]

💀

[bright tartan]

im sure they wont just add a hunter only exotic that outdpses everything in the game

[orchid plinth]

in big 2024

[rugged flume]

Does the lightning 1shot in the final room on normal/

[quaint fog]

U can’t be talking with ur rr

[violet knoll]

For the 4th step of the Rogue Network quest (the part where i need to do 3 puzzles) the third puzzle is not spawning? Like the panel and the plates arent here. Am i missing something?

[orchid plinth]

tcrash is poo

[lilac wraith]

💀

[light arrow]

no, but you can get sniped into lightning strike then death

[orchid plinth]

its only useful for tractor cannon users

[winged owl]

@lilac wraith wanna farm the dungeon hgl?

[orchid plinth]

i dont care enough about this game

[bright tartan]

titans also play the victim but less than hunters

[lilac wraith]

sorry vro i cant rn

[upbeat quarry]

dont look at the first like 10 vespers clears

[winged owl]

grrrrr

[quaint fog]

Bro rlly said nerf titan and hunter, that’s crazy bro, is this projecting?

[tough sable]

💀

[orchid plinth]

i have 3600 hours and stopped playing 2nd act of echos

[bright tartan]

"waaah resto x1 got nerfed, that means having 24/7 resto and an infinite hammer that 1 shots majors is bad now for some reason"

[upbeat quarry]

good for you

leave the discord too please

[orchid plinth]

who is this guy talking to

[quaint fog]

Have u noticed no one is agreeing with ur statement

[stiff galleon]

bait or mental retrdation

[silk sundial]

Has anyone gotten the new shotgun frame yet?

[bright tartan]

you literally main hunter

[upbeat quarry]

what new frame😭 😭 😭 😭

[stiff galleon]

no because its for halloween

[rugged flume]

trueee

[bright tartan]

your opinion is irrelevant

[light arrow]

2 burst slug, its not out yet

[stiff galleon]

halloween shotgun is a 2 burst

[quaint fog]

Because hunter is not a bad class but someone wants to project

[lilac wraith]

yeah i have it

[silk sundial]

The two shot one is festival of the lost? Idk how I missed that thanks

[bright tartan]

yeah i know hunter isnt bad, its broken

[winged owl]

i have it too

[quaint fog]

Broken as in…?

[bright tartan]

as in overpowered?

[winged owl]

its pretty strong, not as strong as me tho

[quaint fog]

Oh not this

[lilac wraith]

😎

[light arrow]

how, explain the extent of your knowledge lmao

[quaint fog]

🙄 brother, hunter just got some of its stuff nerfed wym overpowered

[bright tartan]

i sentence you to playing 20 hours of warlock

[upbeat quarry]

he farms ron btw

[quaint fog]

Is it crazy that warlock is actually crazily good

[upbeat quarry]

hes playing lock anyway

[winged owl]

warlock is definitely insane

[fathom ridge]

Anyone else not seeing VH clears on dungeon report?

[quaint fog]

Maybe ur using the wrong items and stuff but warlock is op bro lmho

[winged owl]

nobody tell bro what the strat for the day 1 dungeon was

[loud tide]

Is Vespers Host boss farmable for the ice breaker?

[lilac wraith]

no

[tired oriole]

still baiting chat i see

[winged owl]

not until the next dungeon release

[bright tartan]

yeah because most of the other non warlock subclasses were disabled

[light arrow]

no the newest dungeon's exotic is never farmable until the next dungeon

[bright tartan]

they didnt have to disable warlock subclasses because they suck

[quaint fog]

?

[winged owl]

no subclass was disabled bro

[upbeat quarry]

1 super was disabled btw

[quaint fog]

Warlock.. does not suck what

Is this guy ok

[tired oriole]

baiting the entire chat

[light arrow]

Did you even attempt vesper???

[south locust]

Hello

[tired oriole]

hi

[bright tartan]

warlock is just like, fine i guess, in some situations

[lilac wraith]

ok

[tired oriole]

k

[bright tartan]

like if you need constant healing or uhhhh

[quaint fog]

LOL?

[winged owl]

in some situations 💀

[lilac wraith]

which situations

[winged owl]

like, all of them?

[bright tartan]

thats pretty much it if you need healing

[quaint fog]

good joke bro

[light arrow]

get off the alt bro

[turbid horizon]

Srill no updatrs on dungeon report ripp

[quaint fog]

Crazy 💀💀

[winged owl]

thats almost every situation

[brazen fern]

does he even know who you are

[tired oriole]

most likely changing on tuwssay

[brazen fern]

😭

[quaint fog]

You know warlock is crazy good at soloing stuff too!! Oh but it’s only good for healing mind you

[bright tartan]

its fine

[turbid horizon]

Yeh hope so

[brazen fern]

warlock only has like 2 out of the top 3 supers in the game

[tired oriole]

who wants to unlock prismatic with me

[frigid magnet]

Guys y'all get contest mode or naw

[bright tartan]

it has good survivability with devour but thats really it, the damage is whatever

[winged owl]

do i play pvp or do i bang my head against the wall

[quaint fog]

???

[lilac wraith]

nova bomb

[winged owl]

ahem turrets

[light arrow]

What's the difference?

[tired oriole]

nova bomb

[brazen fern]

the song of flame super

[quaint fog]

This gotta be the most wildest statement ever bro

[bright tartan]

yeah thats what i said

[frigid magnet]

Speak for yourself 😡

[tired oriole]

did u know rhat this guy made this same exact speech 1 hour ago

[frigid magnet]

Star eater nova wif parasite dps rotation crazy on warlock

[winged owl]

i want to get the vesper hgl but everyone is doing the icebreaker cata for some reason

[bright tartan]

lol

[brazen fern]

yeah man nova bomb is only top 3 damage supers in the game

[winged owl]

so ig its pvp

[quaint fog]

Ik but if it genuinely isn’t, just say ur bad at warlock at this point

[light arrow]

the cata isn't even out though I don't think

[brazen fern]

and song of flame makes you unkillable on contest

[upbeat quarry]

it is

[bright tartan]

yeah go use star eaters on SE, im sure its really good

[winged owl]

it is

[brazen fern]

yeah man warlock sucks 😭

[frigid magnet]

Bro, I've been sitting in this dungeon and my friend been doing the puzzle. I've catalyst no exotic now

[light arrow]

provide the method

[winged owl]

idk

[frigid magnet]

It is if u suck that's on u

[light arrow]

[winged owl]

the cata seems to kinda suck btw

[light arrow]

irrelevant

[winged owl]

at least in my opinion

[brazen fern]

you arent really running warlock for se but sure

[bright tartan]

thats every raid now

[quaint fog]

Insane right

[brazen fern]

at least on witness anyways

[bright tartan]

why would you need 6 warlocks on crota

[winged owl]

its a bunch of puzzles and shooting pannels

[bright tartan]

im genuinely curious

[brazen fern]

6 hunter ron dot dot dot

[bright tartan]

to hear your reasoning

[winged owl]

i couldnt be bothered

[brazen fern]

sounds like hell bro

[frigid magnet]

Understandable reaction and I second u on this take

[light arrow]

should've known

[bright tartan]

? why

oh star eaters nova

yeah that makes sense

[brazen fern]

hunter on crota genuinely throwing

[winged owl]

you should farm vesper hgl with me : )

[brazen fern]

like what are you even doing bro

definitely

[light arrow]

maybe

[brazen fern]

just because of solarlock alone

[quaint fog]

Dude as a hunter main, even I know that the other two probably has more survivability

[brazen fern]

dsc is more of a titan raid anyways

[bright tartan]

yeah but thats just speeds of bad raids

[quaint fog]

Bad raids 💀

[brazen fern]

whats a good raid then

[tired oriole]

for one encounter

[brazen fern]

in your opinion

[bright tartan]

SE

[brazen fern]

besides se

[tender spindle]

Salvations edge gud

[bright tartan]

ron is only fun if youre speedrunning though

[tired oriole]

bro is not talking about speeds

[tender spindle]

Wrath of machine gud

[brazen fern]

which is conveniently a less than ideal raid for warlocks

[bright tartan]

idk spire is pretty fun

oh wait they removed that

[brazen fern]

SPIRE ISNT A RAID???

[bright tartan]

uhhhhhh vow is pretty fun

[winged owl]

spire of stars

[light arrow]

bro's just naming raids at this point

[tired oriole]

witerawy

[brazen fern]

erm ackshually its a raid lair 🤓

[pine fog]

Salvations edge

[quaint fog]

Sigh the iq is lessening more and more reading this guys messages

[bright tartan]

until bungie unnerfs contraverse warlock is dead to me

[winged owl]

erm sotp is a really good raid

[brazen fern]

i will run warlock on se till witness if i have to

[bright tartan]

i am the number 1 voidlock fan

[lilac wraith]

ok

[brazen fern]

doesnt really matter till then tbh

[tired oriole]

ok

[quaint fog]

ok bro

[wanton halo]

guys what do i gotta do to get someone to give me final shape

[tender spindle]

Bungie should add back wrath of the machine but just make it vampiric scorn instead of siva fallen

[quaint fog]

Work

[winged owl]

raid lairs are just dungeons ig

[bright tartan]

thats funny because gos is like my third favorite raid

[brazen fern]

tell me how much nade energy % you get from killing a red bar with feed the void

[bright tartan]

idk like none

[tired oriole]

u have 0 raid clears

[lilac wraith]

bro has edge master and still needs final shapes 😔

[winged owl]

3

[frigid magnet]

They should add moisture to the game

[bright tartan]

nobody understands this but its true

[tired oriole]

ik

[brazen fern]

so we arent playing the game 💀

[bright tartan]

gos is a goated raid

[frigid magnet]

Just make everything moist

[lilac wraith]

true

[wanton halo]

new account

[lilac wraith]

😭

[brazen fern]

ron my beloved

[wanton halo]

personakky im a wish guy

[quaint fog]

Ron such a good raid

[bright tartan]

i dont speedrun though i just play with speedrunners

[pine fog]

I like ron

[frigid magnet]

Lw kf goated

[tired oriole]

ok

[brazen fern]

se is top 3 raids for me when people actually play the game and dont throw

[wanton halo]

lw crota dsc

[brazen fern]

cause its not fun with lfg

[bright tartan]

clear farmers be like "i messed up the skip, reset" (resetting takes 2x as much time as just finishing the raid)

[winged owl]

[lilac wraith]

💀

[brazen fern]

me when the clear farmers optimize their runs so they can farm more clears

[tender spindle]

1. Wrath
2. SE
3. KF

[bright tartan]

speedrunners are respectable, clear farmers are just

[brazen fern]

how dare they

[bright tartan]

okay but thats unoptimizing the run

because if you want the number to go up, you just finish that clear

[lilac wraith]

wrath is gonna have completely overhauled mechanics if it comes back
the dungeons are more complex than d1 raids

[brazen fern]

idk in what world using skips isnt optimizing a run

its not like the ron skips are hard

[tired oriole]

its literally the same people

[tender spindle]

🤓dm RR and DR must have emblem🤓

[bright tartan]

yeah but clear farmers get fast times as a byproduct of their mental illness, speedrunners at least have a goal

[hard needle]

is D2Armorpicker down?

[brazen fern]

ok bro

now we are talking mental illness 😭

[quaint fog]

What is this statement bro

[tired oriole]

??

[brazen fern]

you lost me dawg

[light arrow]

was that even a complete thought

[lilac wraith]

i just lost ma dawggggg

[bright tartan]

icynips7

[tender spindle]

Bro just hates people who enjoy raids more than seasonal nothing-burger content

[tired oriole]

☠️

[lilac wraith]

☠️

[fathom ridge]

I have the emblem, but I don't see any clears on my DR, anyone else see this bug?

[bright tartan]

that was the funniest answer i could think of sorry

[wanton halo]

what did kirby find as the best super for second boss

[brazen fern]

"must have contest emblem" ahh lfgs

[bright tartan]

i just think that

[lilac wraith]

glacial quack

[urban compass]

congrats youre the 800th person to ask this versy same question

[wanton halo]

for warlock

[light arrow]

I think you should get off the alt😭

[fathom ridge]

I literally haven't seen it anywhere lol

[tender spindle]

Caring about raid report is stupid anyways. The only people who check RR are those who want to be carried. No exceptions.

[bright tartan]

when you speedrun you have an end goal in mind, clear farming makes no sense to me

[tired oriole]

ok

[urban compass]

open your eyes

[lilac wraith]

well idk what he found but song is pretty goog

[bright tartan]

why would i care if number go up on raid report

[brazen fern]

speedrunning is just clear farming with a different name

[wanton halo]

song is ass

[bright tartan]

yeah but speedrunners stop at a certain point

[wanton halo]

i tried song already

[tired oriole]

so do farmers?

[fathom ridge]

I just wanted to see how my run went. Stats and stuff. IDC about others

[tired oriole]

what r u on

[brazen fern]

my fastest ron times come from clear farming

[bright tartan]

like eventually you have the time you want, farmers just

idk i dont get it

[urban compass]

can look up history on your bungie profile idk if it has stats

[bright tartan]

ive done speeds and it was fun, i tried like 3 raids in a row of clear farming and i couldnt take it

[tired oriole]

????

[normal pagoda]

bro i did contest clear but didnt get the quest finished bc i forgot to pick it up on my warlock

[bright tartan]

yeah but speedrunners have clears as a byproduct of their goal, with clear farmers its the other way around

i think my problem is with the end goal

doing something just to make an arbitrary number go up is spiritually bankrupt

[tired oriole]

clear farmer goal is get as many clears as fast as possible

[bright tartan]

doing something to make a number go down is based

[wanton halo]

gonna try stormcaller on second boss

[dusky wigeon]

clear farmers need to clear farm a shower

[wanton halo]

will report back if it does more than 4 damage

[bright tartan]

thats basically what im trying to say

[rocky geyser]

Doing something exactly the same hundreds of times will rot your brain

[brazen fern]

very original

[brazen fern]

or it will make you better at the game

[bright tartan]

like speeds, you could have the most cracked run ever on your first run and set a WR, for a clear farmer the grind never ends

[wanton halo]

most top 200 speedrunners are top 2000 in clears

[tired oriole]

i have 0 memory of any of my 900 raid clears

[bright tartan]

yeah that too

[tired oriole]

so i think my brain is rotten

[wanton halo]

speedrunning is just fancy clear farming :3

[dusky wigeon]

my bad

[bright tartan]

my clears are super low because i think its morally wrong to play the game more than you have to

i think i have like 20 last wish clears total, and half of them are checkpoints

[tired oriole]

fortunately fun is subjective

[light arrow]

It's a game, you don't have to play it to begin with

[bright tartan]

well

maybe ill do them with icynips then

[brazen fern]

i play raids and farm full clears in the process cause its fun

playing the same raid 30 times over is fun

[bright tartan]

raids are only fun if i want something from them or if im helping someone else

[willow grotto]

i love shooting an enemy 4 times with a rocket pistol and all 4 times the shot just flies off to nowhere

[brazen fern]

with different people

[light arrow]

we just don't know about icynips7

[bright tartan]

i got every pattern and triumph from kings fall and i will never touch the raid again

unless someone asks me to help them

[tired oriole]

ok

[bright tartan]

thats how everyone should be

[lilac wraith]

I belong in you

[ripe quail]

dead game btw

[tired oriole]

😦

[light arrow]

[bright tartan]

i dont even have the catalyst for crotas end and i still probably wont do the raid again because it sucks

[fathom ridge]

I can't seem to find it. Oh well, hopefully it pops up at some point. 🤷

[bright tartan]

plus theres only one good gun from crota and its the auto rifle

[urban compass]

🤨

[bright tartan]

what other guns are even from that raid

[light arrow]

surely you're talking about necrochasm

[bright tartan]

necrochasm is whatever i think, uhhhhhhh thats every gun right

[bright tartan]

no the high impact

[coarse burrow]

[light arrow]

[quaint fog]

💀 aint no way

[light arrow]

I'm gonna go farm vesper

[urban compass]

same

[bright tartan]

i like high impact autos theyre good

idk every gun from that raid got outclassed later anyways

[brazen marsh]

Any weapons worth farming from gos?

[urban compass]

is the Xurfboard available yet?

[brazen marsh]

Coming weekend

[bright tartan]

no

[rocky geyser]

Zealots reward is awesome

[urban compass]

heard good things about the bow

[bright tartan]

jk the shotgun is good in pvp

and the bow

[brazen marsh]

Ah gotcha thanks all! Quick typers in the chat

[frozen swift]

High impact autos feel weird in pve

[urban compass]

i was big on the pulse, want to get a new one

[frozen swift]

Rather use a 450

[hearty temple]

is it me, or did bungie made the crouch slower in the last update?

[lusty geyser]

yes thank god

[urban compass]

they tryna nerf crouch spammers

[stiff galleon]

oh yeah, lfg + controlled burst rapid, good for a fusion

[frozen swift]

Oh thank the lord, those mfers were annoying in pvp

[bright tartan]

i use high impact autos to break hands in SE

also isnt null composure a rapid fire so its mid

[brazen fern]

or like use a rocket sidearm 😭

[tough sable]

im bored fr

[upbeat quarry]

or use a hc

[bright tartan]

high impact breaks in 1 and i dont have to use rocket sidearm in dps

[calm flare]

wait am i the only one or is lightfall free for all now

[frozen swift]

I use Ros Arago, such a good pve auto

[stiff galleon]

rapid fires are one of two frames worth using

[calm flare]

i can do the campaign got quicksilver storm

[bright tartan]

rapid fires are meh

[calm flare]

didn't buy lightfall

[bright tartan]

after the nerf rapid fires have always felt bad to me, i dont get why people use them

[bright tartan]

you dont even get much more ammo with a rapid fire and the damage is not good

[lusty geyser]

chroma rush the best auto in the game

[thorny pivot]

yo, can somebody please help me with some overthrows please

[frozen swift]

🤨

[bright tartan]

i mean for fusions

[brazen fern]

you arent using sidearm for dps? 😭

you have to be trolling

[bright tartan]

you swap out the rocket sidearm during dps?

ammo loss

[brazen fern]

i just keep it on?

[quaint fog]

Erm

[light arrow]

bros sandbox knowledge comes from strike playlist "testing"

[bright tartan]

oh i dont play hunter bc i go outside

so i just use an auto to break the hands bc its easy and then i can use a special that does damage

[brazen fern]

"guys icebreaker does 6 million dmg on a crit to red bar, meta???"

[quaint fog]

💀

[whole lake]

pluh

[bright tartan]

the hands dont even have that much hp

[brazen fern]

but you can also like just run double special for first phase

[thorny pivot]

yo, can somebody please help me with some overthrows please

[lilac wraith]

the matchmaking

[light arrow]

180k perk crit😱 (on a psion), I gotta tell everyone icebreaker is meta!!!

[gray widget]

Bello

[bright tartan]

why though

[quaint fog]

Bello!

[lilac wraith]

😛

[brazen fern]

cause primaries are 80% of the time unnecessary unless you have ammo constraints

[gray widget]

Bello chain going strong

[thorny pivot]

what is meta atm?

[lilac wraith]

bello

[bright tartan]

yeah i have ammo constraints, i dont play with 6 hunters

[brazen fern]

thats a you issue though

[urban compass]

itd be nice to have a danger room kinda like the season of opulence space that had dmg dummys. better yet let us turn contest on whenever to emulate a day1 environement

[bright tartan]

some of us like to play the game

[brazen fern]

cause everyone i play with runs double special with still hunt and works fine

[bright tartan]

eh

[brazen fern]

on what

[gray widget]

Goated

[bright tartan]

im not swapping to hunter for a raid

[violet eagle]

Double special, always has been

[urban compass]

still hunt with the call is goated

[thorny pivot]

like whats the best things atm

[brazen fern]

depends on activity and boss

[thorny pivot]

idk what that is

[violet eagle]

🍎🥧

[gray widget]

Skill issue

[violet eagle]

You don’t know what special weapons are?

[thorny pivot]

just in general what is optimal, like what does good dmg and stuff

[violet eagle]

Maybe you need to find a different game then

[brazen fern]

gls

[bright tartan]

playing hunter is the skill issue

[brazen fern]

ok so dont complain

[gray widget]

Real

[bright tartan]

? i never did

[gray widget]

You can out dps on hunter on either class anyways

[thorny pivot]

maybe you should stop being a, nvm

[violet eagle]

Looks like a complaint chief

[gray widget]

Da belly

[bright tartan]

literally all i did was say "i use an auto to break the hands in se" and you started crying

[urban compass]

ppl who dis on classes are secretly main that class

[gray widget]

Real

[light arrow]

Or don't play all three

[violet eagle]

I make fun of all the classes, this is true

[wide ice]

Surprised why do that when you can play all 3

[urban compass]

me neither

[bright tartan]

i literally have like maybe 10h of hunter playtime

[violet eagle]

Gotta step those numbers up

[dry stump]

how do I get ice fall mantle is it just legend/master sectors?

[bright tartan]

why, its boring

[violet eagle]

Just buy it from rahool lol!

[bright tartan]

hunter is like the most boring class even though its op

[urban compass]

you just have boring hunter build

[violet eagle]

You are literally waffling rn

[wide ice]

Skating is boring?

[bright tartan]

you can skate on warlock

[urban compass]

you can skat on by

[brazen fern]

you dont always have well yknow

[light arrow]

"my main is humble, everyone else is annoying and broken"

[wide ice]

Ik but we’re mentioning hunter

[thorny pivot]

can somebody please help me with some overthrows impasse?

[brazen fern]

you can skate just by switching subclass before transition

on hunter

[urban compass]

wdym help?

[bright tartan]

ehhhh

titan is op but fun, hunter is op and boring, warlock is fine and fun

[wide ice]

healing auto is godly

[gray widget]

Ok

[urban compass]

healing auto carried in contest

[thorny pivot]

cause it takes me really long so i need somebody to help me with doing the thingys

[gray widget]

The well skate movement tech in question

[brazen fern]

i didnt see many people clearing contest on hunter vro

[bright tartan]

our definitions of good arent the same

[quaint fog]

What’s ur Bungie tag

[brazen fern]

most people were warlock/titan

[final perch]

[bright tartan]

i dont think because warlocks are the best in most speeds theyre good, im talking about a more holistic view of the class

[polar summit]

every class is good except

[urban compass]

it would actually be worse for you bc chests being opened and despawning by others, just load into the matchmade OT if you want fast

[civic kettle]

most teams had one im pretty sure

[light arrow]

warlock main detected

[gray widget]

Real

[brazen fern]

i cleared with 3 warlocks idk

[wide ice]

Prismatic titan is just too good

[bright tartan]

2 of the 5 warlock subclasses are unusable, and one is only usable in groups

[quaint fog]

I cleared with hunter 2 warlocks

[brazen fern]

ok then dont use them

[light arrow]

had one until 3rd

[bright tartan]

that is not fine from a balance sense imo

[frozen swift]

Inb4 a titan

[civic kettle]

same

[lilac wraith]

1 warlock subclass is unusable

[quaint fog]

High five bro

[bright tartan]

void and arc exist

[urban compass]

it sucked in SE so they gave VH to the titans

[brazen fern]

titan only has 1 good subclass and thats pris

[undone finch]

is wicked implement good rn

[brazen fern]

and is as one dimensional as it gets

[lilac wraith]

void is useable bruh

[final perch]

oh yea, that reminds me

[gray widget]

The warlock is good. Void lock good. Solar lock. Pris lock good. Arc lock bad . Stasis lock goated. Strand goated

[urban compass]

skill

[lilac wraith]

void is so good like 😭

[bright tartan]

void is nothing