💬destiny-chat

[queen sentinel]

what if i already got a cipher?

[wanton halo]

then you wait until you reset your rank to give it to him..? 😭

[queen sentinel]

ooo i gotta reset my rank

mb have no idea LOL

[inner sandal]

oh yeah basso ostinato from lightfall has trench barrel

[wanton halo]

yea when you reset your rank it opens a third tab in the exotic focusing subscreen that lets you buy them

[bold crag]

Does Encore no longer give pinnacles?

[wanton halo]

idk

[quasi berry]

anyone know if salvation onslaught is giving pinnacle

[upbeat quarry]

does it have a star next to it

[spare mountain]

spirit of assassin/syntho on titan

[prime isle]

Any Warlock builds that uses Stasis that can be used for Onslaught or Raids with the artifacts that we have?

[spare mountain]

new warlock exotic

[upbeat quarry]

put on osmio

[inner sandal]

didnt bungie say the ritual auto rifle would be high impact? cuz its just another boring precision

[median pelican]

What's the minimum light you need to be for the dungeon tomorrow?

[sharp python]

what are people using for DPS on GoS boss?

[inner sandal]

ah nope they did say precision

zzz gimme more high impact autos pls bungo

[fervent veldt]

pretty sure nobody uses high impacts in pve

pvp***

[inner sandal]

then im nobody

[fervent veldt]

yikes

[inner sandal]

oh nvm i dont play pvp lol

[echo topaz]

They’re underrated imo, like they’re not optimal by any means but they hold their own better than people think they do

[fervent veldt]

when sunshot, graviton, wave frames, rocket sidearms kill faster than high impact autos

[inner sandal]

15 seconds of covering fire

[upbeat quarry]

rockets without gjally on harpy hgl on sanc

[fervent veldt]

lia why am i already bored of this episode

[upbeat quarry]

bc it sucks

[fervent veldt]

theres like, only 1 good weapon to chase after

[echo topaz]

Does that thing still work where you can thundercrash the harpy from behind and make it stop moving or something

[inner sandal]

because there's no "gotta craft em all" in new content

[upbeat quarry]

idk

[fervent veldt]

honestly once i get a good arc heavy gl im never playing onslaught salvation again

[blissful scaffold]

BRO BUNGIE WHY

[echo topaz]

I feel like it’ll get old eventually but I’m having fun

[lost island]

So you're saying it paid off for me to wait a bit

that is insane

[blissful scaffold]

Another issue is Cause there is no time gated, the quest order is very very in coherent

like it just pop up and i dont know which quest lead to what quest when it comes to lore

[quasi berry]

no way guys its poopsock

[brittle ravine]

how many billion runs to get enough starcrossed red borders for one gun yall thinking

[blissful scaffold]

Uhm no lfg here

[fervent veldt]

poop sock guy 😎

[blissful scaffold]

what starcross give ?

[fervent veldt]

for what gun

[analog agate]

Jsut ran into a player who never missed and would pre fire the corner before I peeked. I was able to bait their shots when I pressed against the wall

I wasn’t visible I would take a half step forwards and bang shot against the wall. Pokes my head out got crit shot backed off and that happend the entire game

[blissful scaffold]

sound like a cheater

report that mofo and leave the game

[analog agate]

They where not just farming a lane either they would crouch when I did too

[blissful scaffold]

no matter, they are cheater, just report and leave the match

[analog agate]

Yeah every comp game I’ve played I’ve won or been 1.1 KDA this game I was a .2

[blissful scaffold]

of course it is como

[brittle ravine]

ANY fully filled

[blissful scaffold]

bungie dont even give a shiet about comp anti cheater

[blissful scaffold]

comp should have level advantages since it is end game pvp too

[analog agate]

Ima throw it into your dm to take a peek

[blissful scaffold]

i dont want to see it

i am not a god that can just smite some a-holes

[lone island]

uh

[analog agate]

Nah just want you to see it

I didn’t get more than that clip this game due to some issues of being dead half the time

[blissful scaffold]

i saw it

[gray widget]

W rizz

[blissful scaffold]

WAIT, it is field prep not Auto loading holster

[charred yacht]

cabal drop pods are freaky guys

[blissful scaffold]

the food that make you stomach churn is freaky

[charred yacht]

true

playing on the europa map has increased my enjoyment

i heckin love europa

[blissful scaffold]

i heckin WISH bungie design more maps based on Europa

but nah, the laysoff is real

at this point, Bungie need to change their way of format by next year in Codename: Frontier

[rocky geyser]

this will be better than WR 100%

[gray widget]

Bello

[blissful scaffold]

or that would be the end of Destiny franchise

[blissful scaffold]

what is "this"

[charred yacht]

vesper's host

[vale spoke]

Hello people

[urban compass]

precision

[urban compass]

gonna wreck it tomorrow

artifact gives so many options, stasis obvious but arc blind and void weaken are key

[charred yacht]

i didnt prep i just have the concussive mod

[urban compass]

stack those

in fact just use white armor

[blissful scaffold]

ah then i hpe so

[blissful scaffold]

all boss in GOS can be div. except the speaker boss that the div bubble in super close to the ground

[urban compass]

what if...no div

[blissful scaffold]

tether, Titan Void Axe

weaken nade

[urban compass]

no im saying no div is faster

div is obsolete

unless cenotaph

[blissful scaffold]

cenotaph and Div then

[thorn tulip]

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[urban compass]

idk I hate how hard it was to fin a gos run and I asked all stasis, everyone said ok and no1 switched till final

[alpine garnet]

hi reshay

hi MM

[urban compass]

👋 😭

[blissful scaffold]

so did u get a team for that

[urban compass]

yes

they just lied to me

[upbeat quarry]

why are you doing all stasis gos anywau

[blissful scaffold]

BRO

[gray widget]

Bello

[blissful scaffold]

i guess it is for triumph

[urban compass]

triumph score brohsia jr

[charred yacht]

is there a triumph?

[upbeat quarry]

ah yeah that 25 triumph score

[urban compass]

"frost on the leaves"

[upbeat quarry]

did you run it back for the strand one too

[urban compass]

i need that one too

[upbeat quarry]

and are you excited to run it all pris in a year

[urban compass]

I did my last wish all strand instead

[rocky geyser]

do gos encoutners still have the same loot table?

[urban compass]

yes but red borders now

from clan lady

[charred yacht]

gos is in rotation next week right?

[upbeat quarry]

and hc is void

[upbeat quarry]

yes

[charred yacht]

gamer time

[urban compass]

no ancient gospel is solar still right?

[charred yacht]

no

[urban compass]

wtf thats some bs

[rocky geyser]

so final only drops the sniper?

[charred yacht]

i mean we got zaoulis so dont need another solar 140

[urban compass]

i just deleted my old god roll ancient gospel bc I though crafting 😭

[charred yacht]

tragic

[urban compass]

rapid dragonfly

[charred yacht]

well not a super insane roll at least

[urban compass]

whatever I never used it 😝

that lunas or igneus amirite

[upbeat quarry]

its a good gimmick in pvp though

wish i could enhance old ancient gospel

[urban compass]

right? there should be a new token system to unlock sunset content with money

sony bucks

[charred yacht]

sony bucks

probably not gonna even use any of the gos weapons now that I think about it

[urban compass]

just dont feed your kids and or pets for 6-8 weeks, and you too, can have your very own nerf™ tractor cannon

[vivid badger]

When is the new dungeon active?

[charred yacht]

12 hours

[fervent veldt]

tomorrow

[upbeat quarry]

today

[gray widget]

bwello

[mint nebula]

I hope they do why they did to hatching and give it the multi kill option

headstone on a gl sounds like a lot of fun

especially with how much they want you to use stasis crystals

and warlocks having no way to get them in stasis except through glaciers

[urban compass]

$$ NERF™ Built FORD™ Tuff $$ Send Silver

Borat to you by ©apcom

[split crown]

bello

[civic kettle]

yo i got a tonic for alloys

[charred yacht]

wow

[urban compass]

it taste like chronic

[charred yacht]

wait actually wow

[urban compass]

dont have a cow

[scarlet ermine]

whats up everyone

[charred yacht]

holy i just launched inverted spire

I forgot they changed it

[scarlet ermine]

nice

you think its better now?

[charred yacht]

i am not sure yet

[split crown]

is the spire still inverted

[charred yacht]

lasers everywhere now

[scarlet ermine]

is it new gms now in the new not season

[foggy sequoia]

i still haven't played new inverted spire

[scarlet ermine]

ive probably missed like 3 conquerors now whats even the freaking point

[oblique onyx]

Yo is there a faster way than lost sectors to get exotic engrams for rahool?

[charred yacht]

3 tanks wtff

[civic kettle]

not really

[oblique onyx]

tough

[charred yacht]

dont vehicles like immediately explode in gms?

[civic kettle]

sparrows yes, tanks no

[charred yacht]

ok anddd its softlocked nice

oh wait I am dumb nevermind

[split crown]

d2 player moment

[charred yacht]

true

[split crown]

nothing againt you

[civic kettle]

anyway im about to finish all the potion quests for eidolon

[charred yacht]

dang

[karmic onyx]

where is the best spot to farm tonic mats?

[charred yacht]

heckin rally banner before the boss lol

[charred yacht]

just play the 50 round onslaught idk

[civic kettle]

ok its done

[charred yacht]

the strike is like 90% the same

maybe the gm has more changes

[thorn tulip]

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[static yarrow]

How do 4 souls on the warlock interact? The new stasis soul + arc + void + hellion. Is it even possible to get em all at once

[charred yacht]

most you can do at once is arc soul + hellion + stasis soul I think

[pine sedge]

chat does hunter or warlock have more of a variety of viable playstyles

[charred yacht]

also the no time to explain thing

[karmic onyx]

think i can get ether or cuase iirc void needs a exoitc

[charred yacht]

void soul needs the aspect which is not on prismatic

[static yarrow]

Ah yes

[karmic onyx]

was it a aspect huh dont remeber lol

[static yarrow]

I think briarbinds just boost the base void soul

[charred yacht]

idk how many hunter builds there are

theres a few good warlock ones rn

[karmic onyx]

warlock is cracked right now lol

[static yarrow]

Someone might be able to pull it off with crazy loadout swaps or smth

[charred yacht]

I think getaway build kinda meh now cuz you dont get the dr artifact mod

im not sure

[pine sedge]

do people really be playing bad juju/dire ahamkara now

[static yarrow]

Yeah getaways kinda fell off, stronger options now, and most importantly more fun options

[charred yacht]

im convinced those people are bots idk lol

[molten condor]

no

[static yarrow]

Youtubers be overhyping fr

[molten condor]

did not fall off, literally only difference is no galvanic armour

and u can just run needlestorm over nova now so ur getting dr anyway

[pine sedge]

what if song of flame instead

[molten condor]

that aslo works

[pine sedge]

new titan exotic seems too gimmicky huh

[molten condor]

dr is arguably worth more but song and resto orbs is good

[charred yacht]

I heard people dont like the new titan one

[pine sedge]

i like song more than needle in the average content idk

[molten condor]

depends if u need a dmg super for a boss

[sour oriole]

bro this sucks

[gray widget]

bello

[pine sedge]

is titan you know
good now

[charred yacht]

titan is good as long as consecration spam exists i think

some people were saying icefall mantle changes are good

[normal pagoda]

whats the best way to do dual destiny thru fireteam finder considering the boss needs coms

[pine sedge]

boss needs text chat

[molten condor]

was better last season

[charred yacht]

idk voice chat or type the clock number in chat

[alpine garnet]

hi jma

[normal pagoda]

but its lowkey fast to switch

[charred yacht]

howdy

[charred yacht]

id just use #exotic-quests and hop in a vc

[valid violet]

and the overshield buff was great too

AND unbreakable changes

im loving void titan so far

one kill with vexcalibur's melee recharges like 20% of my grenade 💀

while having enhanced grenade regen too

[winged scarab]

hello guyssssss

[normal pagoda]

how do i attune for class item

[charred yacht]

tonics

oh idk

[winged scarab]

hello ucher ❗

[charred yacht]

everyone has been asking about class item

[karmic onyx]

ghost at the pale heart

[normal pagoda]

as in vendor?

[karmic onyx]

yes

but u do need class item unlokced

[normal pagoda]

ah guess bc i havent unlocked it yet i dont get it

[charred yacht]

lol

[normal pagoda]

i have 59/64 on my hunter and 0 for everything else

it was my 59th unique roll that got me my caliban liar role

[karmic onyx]

yah u need to find someone help you do the dual destiny then

[normal pagoda]

actually disgusting

[charred yacht]

lmfaoo

[winged scarab]

exo ill run it w you if you want

[normal pagoda]

bet

im mainly running it bc i need 4 feathers for the title

[winged scarab]

all good, yk where the feathers are?

[normal pagoda]

i got em pulled up

[karmic onyx]

dual destiny aint 2 hard if ur good at math

[winged scarab]

betttttt gimmie 2 mins to load it up

[normal pagoda]

ty

[karmic onyx]

or know how to read a clock

[normal pagoda]

yeah ive ran it a few times

[karmic onyx]

just never cleared it?

[normal pagoda]

no ive cleared it like 5x

on my hunter

then i just macroed it for a few days prob got like 400 roles

[karmic onyx]

then ghost should have the option to atune

[normal pagoda]

still didnt get 64/64 i just have 0 clears on ttian

[karmic onyx]

its a new menu on him

but to get the exoitc attune u do need to clear on each class iirc if u want the exoitc for said class

[normal pagoda]

imma try to cop a star eater roll for my titan before tomorrow

gonna ad clear carry my bot friends

i usually just play hunter

[winged scarab]

wait ghost can focus em now??

[silk valley]

hey just curious if anyone else agrees with me on this does anyone else think peeps are overpreparing with the team requirements for tomorrow?

[normal pagoda]

yes

its gonna be hard but it wont be ghosts of the deep difficulty

[winged scarab]

yea, people do it with everything new that releases with a "contest" mode

[normal pagoda]

bc thats is overtuned imo

[hollow thistle]

does anyone know if trinary system's curated role can actually drop?

[silk valley]

its still going to be easier than a master dungeon

[charred yacht]

damage checks might be insane idk'

bungie said the bosses will have enrage right?

[silk valley]

I mean on the things like solo flawless and that BS

[split crown]

what's enrage do again?

[charred yacht]

after X number of dps phases the boss wipes you

[normal pagoda]

frog join up /join exo#9809

[molten condor]

wipe after a certain number of phases

3 or 4

[normal pagoda]

nah its gonna be 5-7

[charred yacht]

doubt

[normal pagoda]

im gonna say 5 flat bc of damage checks

[charred yacht]

5 wouldnt be a damage check lol

unless the boss had a godly amount of hp

[split crown]

mm
so in that phase or the phase after enrage hits does the team wipe?

[upbeat quarry]

50m hp trust

[charred yacht]

it will say something about enrage in red text and if you dont kill the boss in that phase you wipe

[split crown]

ahh, perfect thank you

[upbeat quarry]

or something else evil happens

[charred yacht]

boss sends you back to the start of the dungeon 😭

the trailer was sus

[split crown]

sussy bungie

[gray widget]

https://a.co/d/dEoYWOf

[charred yacht]

bruhhh

[upbeat quarry]

maybe you could try hopping on one of those

it looks like a good model

[blissful scaffold]

Treadmill is fine

[charred yacht]

lmfaooo

[blissful scaffold]

I need to hop on treadmill to burn my fat

[charred yacht]

about to play the best dungeon ever added

surely

[alpine garnet]

hi Frog!

[compact night]

What is the current DPS meta? Vet player with all exotics except for the last 2 seasons
Recently got back into the game

[charred yacht]

probably involves using one of the new envious arsenal + bns gls

or edge transit I am not sure

[spring violet]

why are so many world scannables broken

[charred yacht]

its been this way for years idk

I think when bungie reuse certain assets somehow a scan thing gets duplicated too

[fathom badge]

for some reason i keep remembering some games i use to play when i was younger like d1 and some others games

[pine sedge]

watch it be worse than ghosts of the deep

(i am a gotd hater)

[charred yacht]

lol

[carmine wind]

They better not i s2g

[charred yacht]

pretty sure its already confirmed

[carmine wind]

bc world scannables got sunset

[stiff galleon]

yes, dps phases are limited for contest

[carmine wind]

ok, for CONTEST

that makes sense.

but if i see that in my solo flawless imma be honest im going to be a little pissed

[compact nova]

how do i do the thing with navigator where i annihilate bosses by spamming grapple melee

[carmine wind]

...this also makes me hella worry on the bosses having more health than the witness

[spring violet]

dont all raid bosses have an enrage mechanic

[upbeat quarry]

any hgl rotation from last season + sanguine wicked sister on pris lock

[charred yacht]

yes

[compact nova]

im mad about lucky pants nerf

[charred yacht]

I think?

[upbeat quarry]

99% of rocket rotations are dead now though

[compact nova]

they gave us a godlike weapon for it last season only to take it away the next

[charred yacht]

"some encounters will have an enrage mechanic that limits the number of phases or the time players have left to complete it"

[upbeat quarry]

shuro both kinda does and doesnt

[charred yacht]

is what bungie has said for contest

[compact nova]

i mean

[snow shale]

question about wish keeper catalyst ? who can i talk to to get the catalyst quest?

[compact nova]

i dont think raid mid bosses like templar have enrage

[spring violet]

is it like active right off the bat cause i only know it usually kicks in if youre taking too long or if boss is near death

[upbeat quarry]

no more quest just do starcrossed

[snow shale]

ah ok thanks

[upbeat quarry]

templar has enrage it just isnt a wipe

[snow shale]

on legend mode ?

[upbeat quarry]

it makes oracles spawn progressively faster

[charred yacht]

enrage is usually happens after x dps phases

[upbeat quarry]

probably

[compact nova]

:3

[charred yacht]

does anyone know how to get the resource tonics?

[upbeat quarry]

finish the key fieldwork

[charred yacht]

all 3 are undiscovered for me

ok

[naive folio]

Raid bosses always have enrage. Dungeons never have enrage

[upbeat quarry]

the cool exotic ones that give good resources are just random upgrades from making legendary tonics though

[stiff galleon]

erm... riven doesnt enrage... i win

[stable wedge]

i there any video that shows all the buffs and weapons nerfed from this new season?

[naive folio]

Also GOTD was an amazing first play through for a dungeon.

[upbeat quarry]

one of aegis' probably

[stable wedge]

yeah i basically havent looked at anything destiny these past 3 months

[upbeat quarry]

not many changes happened though

[thorn rover]

excited for vesper

[stable wedge]

is prismatic titan still underwhelming?

[thorn rover]

whos racing for 1st place

[upbeat quarry]

pris titan is very broken but not everywhere

[stiff galleon]

it never really was outside of contest se

[stiff galleon]

this

[upbeat quarry]

yeah pre class items pris titan sucked balls

but now its hard gm meta and most solo encounters

[stable wedge]

for me it was alr just the healing

i saw its amazing for ad clear no?

[upbeat quarry]

they did "buff" knockout

[stable wedge]

it wouldve been cool if we got knock out + banner of war

[tulip blaze]

connecting....

[naive folio]

😭

[upbeat quarry]

caretaker also doesnt really "enrage" either

[stable wedge]

or into the fray

[upbeat quarry]

also daughters dont

[eternal cloud]

the Math ain't adding up here chief

[charred yacht]

thanks gaben

[urban compass]

its worth-less

[thorn rover]

lmao, 50 off free

they owe me half of what i paid initially

[gray widget]

https://a.co/d/dEoYWOf

[upbeat quarry]

morgeth doesnt either

[urban compass]

no way man rogue ltg treadmill

[winged scarab]

Its our autism and we get to pick the special interest ❗

[charred yacht]

smart treadmill 😭

[iron sinew]

meow

[charred yacht]

have to have a membership wtf

[manic canyon]

what is the god roll for the onslaught gl

[manic canyon]

hey bluejay

[charred yacht]

cascade + bns i think

[manic canyon]

i have that but like a reload mw

[charred yacht]

probably good enough then

handling mw wouldnt change much

[heavy dust]

Why do I get the entire short bus when im playing gambit, like seriously I get the most carelessly thrown together group of psych ward patients with Parkinsons while the other team has 35 different heavies every invade

[hallow wasp]

Cascade bns for DPS, envious bns for reliable damage

[hallow wasp]

why are you taking gambit seriously

[charred yacht]

the issue with envious bns now is that any loadout swap resets it I think?

[heavy dust]

Doesn't winning rank you up faster?

[charred yacht]

I havent really messed around with iy

[heavy dust]

I'm trying to get fair judgement

[spring violet]

smashing your balls with a hammer is the best way to feel immense amounts of pain but i play gambit instead

[charred yacht]

You can stack up in #gambit i guess

idk

[winged scarab]

ay bruh where is this emblem for the twitch stream at? am I buggin or is it not in collections??

Cause I did the 15mins and the drop campaign isnt showing up in twitch as a closed campaign either

[urban compass]

keep looking

[spring violet]

smack your nuts against the table

[winged scarab]

I've done it multiple times IM TWEAKING

[winged scarab]

im gonna get you bro

lock your doors and windows

[spring violet]

[winged scarab]

nvm Im actually stupid. I had a singular bar when watching and when I got the notification to claim the drop it actually didnt claim it

BRO I hate this place. JUST MAKE IT A ANYTIME CLAIM

such a clean emblem, I shall continue to flex my ascendant emblem then

[upbeat quarry]

yes

[hallow wasp]

Does but to win you don't rely on teammates, you set up a 1v7 PvE and invasion build that lets you clear all ads, do invasions easily and DPS the boss

[heavy dust]

Fair

[hallow wasp]

cammycakes has a few videos about gambit builds he's ran, usually relying on 12p shotgun titan build

[valid violet]

im straight up never going to get burried bloodline

[upbeat quarry]

cool

[hallow wasp]

I think the latest one is his "new way to level up weapons" video

[valid violet]

i THOUGHT i saw a exotic popup but nope

[spring violet]

phoenix dove in the middle of a respawning screeb pack 😭

[golden fiber]

does every encounter of warlords ruin drop pinnicle?

or is it just boss

[sour ermine]

It is not pinnacle anymore

[charred yacht]

the little challenge thing is wrong it gives no pinnacles

[sour ermine]

They said it wouldn't be the pinnacle anymore starting revenant

[golden fiber]

oh

[sour ermine]

Since the new dungeon comes out in 10 hours

[golden fiber]

i see

thnaks

[lofty fjord]

why is the smg and heavy gl not dropping from the onslaught salvation? i have the potion on and doing expert 50 waves

[charred yacht]

rng

🙏 loot chase

[rose imp]

👁️ 👄 👁️

[lofty fjord]

I keep getting the pulse and the stasis gl only. I've got like 20 of the pulse but not a single smg

[charred yacht]

the pulse is so bad too lmfao

[brazen fern]

someone doesnt have a dungeon team yet

we need one more

[fervent veldt]

uuugggghhhhhj

ill look for a team on the 2nd day

[worn pilot]

@hushed gust@winged scarab going to try ranked OCE lash

[winged scarab]

HOLD UP ranked?????

[worn pilot]

ranked dropped with todays update

[winged scarab]

SAY LESS

[worn pilot]

but idk if its active cause it works like pre-24/7

lemme see if its active

[brazen fern]

no today

[worn pilot]

yea its not active @winged scarab

:(

[rain loom]

What shader on the xur shell makes it a flashbang?

[devout raft]

It got nerfed

[rain loom]

Sobbing

[worn pilot]

The first Ranked games will begin <t:1728979200:D>

at <t:1728979200:t>

[fervent veldt]

okay

[rain loom]

But what shader was it

[lofty fjord]

Nvm I can craft tonic potions to focus farm

[worn pilot]

until then Lash got nerfed so time to try warden

[quasi berry]

I got the russian and chinese combo chat this is gonna go well perhaps?

[fervent veldt]

buried bloodline ornament for bd next week

[quaint fog]

go with alpha/radio

!!

[light arrow]

Wicked sister grind is not kind

[elfin condor]

Hmmm

[quasi berry]

3 minutes rick kackis video??!!

[charred yacht]

🙏 we are blessed

[worn pilot]

STILL CANT BELIEVE THEY NERFED LASH AND BUFFED HAZE BTW

[verbal field]

hi chat

[worn pilot]

HAZE ULT IS ALREADY A PRESS TO WIN NOW ITS SLIGHTLY BAD AND SLIGHTLY LESS BAD AT THE SAME TIME

[violet eagle]

Wow!

[quasi berry]

the wicked sister grind didn't even start wut

you're grinding it wrong 😂

[fervent veldt]

im too much of a burger

plus i dont have loadouts ready yet

[charred yacht]

loadouts change while you play anyways

[drowsy prism]

Is dungeon coming today or tomorrow?

[charred yacht]

in 10 hours

[drowsy prism]

Thank you

[verbal field]

anyone with day 1 SE wanna join my dungeon team?

[charred yacht]

day 1 SE 💀

[drowsy prism]

I doubt this dungeon will be that hard lol

[verbal field]

you never know

[light arrow]

My options are limited

[snow shale]

do we have to do starcross 4 times to get all the intrisic perks for wish keeper?

[verbal field]

i doubt it

[quaint fog]

debatable but asking for someone with day 1 se completion is silly

[verbal field]

in all of the previous exotic quests you can get them all in 1 run idk why starcross would be different

[grizzled leaf]

25 venutian slime farms or glorbonomic stability

[verbal field]

the joke is that only 6 people have it

its like asking for the day 1 wish emblem

[charred yacht]

very advanced joke for the most high IQ

[quaint fog]

only 6 ppl is wild

[verbal field]

yuh SE race was crazy

[fervent veldt]

grandmaster patrols 😎🔥

[charred yacht]

witness did not play around

[grizzled leaf]

what is the new dungeon

[charred yacht]

vespers host

[quaint fog]

witness dungeon

[verbal field]

deep stone 2

[grizzled leaf]

where is it

[verbal field]

europa

[fervent veldt]

europa tomorrow

[verbal field]

today

[grizzled leaf]

why couldnt they do the reef

[charred yacht]

cuz dsc is peak

[fervent veldt]

because reef is mid

[grizzled leaf]

cap

theres like purple stuff there

[fervent veldt]

yawn

[verbal field]

deep stone is peak d2 aesthetic !!

[grizzled leaf]

we've been to deep stone like 5 times theyre just jelqing it at this point theres no more content there

[fervent veldt]

at least its not another scorn dungeon

[verbal field]

did they say if contest dungeon will have revive tokens?

[fervent veldt]

yes

[verbal field]

im only aware of 2 times ?

[fervent veldt]

pretty sure

[charred yacht]

I havent heard of revive tokens

[grizzled leaf]

1 time too many anyways wasnt the whole point of the dsc raid that it crashed and blew up?

[quaint fog]

yeah theyll be revive tokens

[verbal field]

the contest vh emblem is one of the best contest emblems we've gotten in a while

[charred yacht]

oh I missed it yea

[verbal field]

idk !

[charred yacht]

"encounters feature resurrection tokens" I actually cant read

[quaint fog]

i cant wait to find out whats disabled when it comes to the dungeon later!

[verbal field]

3 man revive tokens are crazy

[grizzled leaf]

you dont know but you grammar policed me on the amount of times we've been there ok bro

[verbal field]

alethonym and uhhh hunters

[stoic notch]

Revive tokens and a enrage mode

[quaint fog]

gg to hunters

[verbal field]

wait enrage? actually?

[fervent veldt]

yes

[quaint fog]

enrage mode is crazy

[sour ermine]

Yes

[stoic notch]

Yea

[verbal field]

i might have to take this seriously

[quaint fog]

u will buddy

[sour ermine]

They said we'd have an actual enrage on dungeon bosses for contest

[snow shale]

do we have to do starcross legend 4 times to get all the catalyst perks for wishkeeper?

[stoic notch]

It's either going to be the hardest dungeon or one that's gonna be with spire and duality

[quaint fog]

i hope its hard tbh

[stoic notch]

Fr tho

[verbal field]

i just hope the mechanic is fun

i hope all 3 encounters are verity

[sour ermine]

The scanner augment returning once again:

[quaint fog]

i hate that

tbf i didnt like dsc, so gg to me

[verbal field]

secret 4th green augment:

[charred yacht]

True

Oppressor augment is real

[quaint fog]

cant wait when the boss one taps you

[stoic notch]

Yea same man those augments are just stupid

[verbal field]

at least the boss isnt a free roaming wyvern

[quaint fog]

true, screw those wyverns

[charred yacht]

atraks day 1 dps again 😱

[verbal field]

4th horseman guillotine time

[quaint fog]

i should prob get plenty of sleep before this happens

[charred yacht]

bungie should just copy paste the encounter would be funny

[verbal field]

nightwatch 4th horseman falling guillotine may be the strongest loadout ever !

[fervent veldt]

the dungeons origin trait is similar to the one from DSC

[winged scarab]

nuh uh

[cobalt swift]

I'm guessing there's no chance this Episode's armor can be high stat, is there?

[quasi berry]

the season is gonna last 4 months... surely you could wait until 4th reset to dunk the engrams

[fervent veldt]

it is

[winged scarab]

I wonder why though, recycled boss recycled perk

[charred yacht]

day 1 is in 9 hours O_O

[light arrow]

there isn't gonna be a contest dungeon for the entirety of the season

[fervent veldt]

holy the stasis sets look so cool

[verbal field]

when are we getting those sets

[violet eagle]

What sets

[charred yacht]

probably act 2 or 3

[verbal field]

chat is speakers sight with midnight coup choir edge a good loadout for contest

[charred yacht]

lel

[fervent veldt]

that seems alright

[charred yacht]

speakers sight worked well in day 1 salvations

[fervent veldt]

i might run that tbh

[verbal field]

im still blaming my teams failure on their refusal to put it on

[fervent veldt]

if only swapping to another loadout didnt reset envious stacks

[verbal field]

just dont swap lol

[fervent veldt]

one loadout with scavs and such, another with surges etc

[charred yacht]

the new warlock exotic could be super nice for day 1 I think

[verbal field]

guess you better prepare an extra set of boots

[charred yacht]

stasis turrets are super good

[verbal field]

too bad getting it before the day 1 is miserable

[charred yacht]

I have it 😎

[fervent veldt]

me chilling with getaway artist

[verbal field]

honestly osmiomancy coldsnap spam with iceflare bolts is like just as good fr !

[charred yacht]

just run some legendary lost sectors and you should get it in like a hour?

[verbal field]

zzzz

should i do it?

[charred yacht]

if ya want I think the exotic is super good tbh

[verbal field]

is it better on stasis or prismatic

[fervent veldt]

i really hope these weapons arent actually the weapons from the dungeon

[charred yacht]

prismatic imo

stasis warlock is just kinda bad

[fervent veldt]

an auto, fusion, breach gl, and a heavy gl

[verbal field]

do we know the frames

[fervent veldt]

nope

[verbal field]

yeah but like that 1 grenade regen fragment is so juice

[charred yacht]

we got devour sir

[verbal field]

true...

do the crystals spawned by the exotic count for devour

[charred yacht]

I think so?

let me check

[verbal field]

yeah ill farm for it

[quasi berry]

youre crazy if youre farming anything other than the revenant gl or xp

[upbeat quarry]

what

[upbeat quarry]

wicked sister is better than the seasonal hgl but whatever

[verbal field]

chat i got the seasonal pulse with eddy current and jolting feedback awesome

[light arrow]

that sh1t takes too long compared to just running strikes

[verbal field]

do the crystals spawned by the new warlock exotic count for devour

[upbeat quarry]

probably not

[verbal field]

you never know

[charred yacht]

yea crystals for sure give devour

[verbal field]

ha

[charred yacht]

like a glacier grenade

I guess?

[stoic notch]

Guys what if

Destiny 3 is behind that portal

[verbal field]

this build is gonna pop off with icebreaker !

[light arrow]

Progress

[uneven juniper]

Anyone doing the farm for seasonal weapons???

[verbal field]

no

[fervent veldt]

theres only like 1 good weapon tbh

[verbal field]

the stasis hc is like interesting ig?

[worn pilot]

nope

[verbal field]

but it is a 120 in pve

[worn pilot]

i dont own the season pass and unless the rest of revenant is not dog im not buying it

[violet eagle]

So true

[clever pendant]

has expert eventide been patched yet ?

[stoic notch]

No

[violet eagle]

Don’t think so

[clever pendant]

ok ty

[verbal field]

destiny 2

[charred yacht]

rolling up with my envious arsenal + frenzy gl 😎 (the god roll)

[brazen fern]

devour is bugged on alethonym

i can kill 6 ads at once with devour active and get like nothing

[verbal field]

my edge transit has envious assassin even though it doesn't have that perk ! awesome

[verbal field]

use a good weapon instead !

[brazen fern]

idk its fun

[verbal field]

like bad juju fr

[brazen fern]

alethonym is just an ammo generator

[charred yacht]

alethonym probably getting disabled for contest dungeon Id figure

[verbal field]

yeah

i found out the immune infinite ammo bug in the first mission of the season lol

[brazen fern]

they are gonna disable envious arsenal bet

[verbal field]

why

[charred yacht]

that would be comical

[brazen fern]

cause its busted

it has no cooldown 😭

[sour ermine]

The funny

[brazen fern]

like what were they thinking man

[charred yacht]

autoloading holster and recon were just too op!

[brazen fern]

lets nerf alh and recon by like 50% but make a perk that makes them completely irrelevant

[verbal field]

i mean can't you get like 90% of reserves in the mag with envious assassin?

[brazen fern]

yeah makes a lot of sense bungie

[charred yacht]

I havent even really used envious arsenal yet is there a cooldown?

[verbal field]

no

[brazen fern]

no thats the problem

[charred yacht]

lmfaooo

[brazen fern]

you can literally dump all of your rockets in 4 seconds by going 123 123 123

[verbal field]

rockets?

[brazen fern]

this makes recon look like childs play

[charred yacht]

only the trials rocket gets it right?

[brazen fern]

its on rockets now too

albeit its only one rocket rn

[coarse burrow]

or just 123 23 23 with like witherhoard

[brazen fern]

doesnt work unfortunately

[coarse burrow]

rip

[brazen fern]

witherhoard doesnt passively proc with dot

its still an uber broken perk

[verbal field]

imagine a double breach gl envious aresenal rocket loadout lmao

[coarse burrow]

i just got e arsenal bns

[brazen fern]

makes rdm irrelevant

[charred yacht]

🙏 god bless

[brazen fern]

i want a bitter sweet with envious arsenal bns

so my triple gl loadout is complete

[coarse burrow]

isnt wicked sister better

[brazen fern]

BUT I CANT GET ONE

[verbal field]

honestly for contest im just sticking with edge

[brazen fern]

both adaptive so its the same

[charred yacht]

i dont have last column of hte artifact lol

[brazen fern]

wicked sister is strand tho

[verbal field]

dungeon better have a rapid with good perks

[brazen fern]

so its probably better for sanguine on needlestorm

[coarse burrow]

well mainly on warlock, sanguine match for strand

[coarse burrow]

this is why, ye

[brazen fern]

these champ mods make me wanna kms in gms

[charred yacht]

is needlestorm better than nova again or something?

[light arrow]

You can at least focus it for cheap

[brazen fern]

nah its just cause of sanguine

[light arrow]

In eriana's I trust

[brazen fern]

minmaxing

[verbal field]

sanguine is such a boring exotic

[coarse burrow]

ses nova got nerfed, strand has auto reload w nade, and strand means 4x on top of 10% with sanguine

[brazen fern]

you cant focus bitter sweet, you have to grind onslaught with tonics

[fervent veldt]

its the foetracer of warlocks

[brazen fern]

im mainly talking about pris tho

[coarse burrow]

ig

[fervent veldt]

pluh

[brazen fern]

strandlock is ehhhh

no survivability

[verbal field]

anything thats not solar or prismatic is just dog

[coarse burrow]

outside of dps rotations, i agree

[charred yacht]

weavewalk 😎

just float in the air and do nothing epic

[brazen fern]

yeah man become a spectator

[light arrow]

I'm talking about wicked sister

[brazen fern]

why did these nitwits remove seasonal focusing

[charred yacht]

were gonna just have to cope with edge transit gamers

[glossy cipher]

no one responds on these lfgs man 😦

[brazen fern]

and remove crafting too

[light arrow]

its 3 am dog

[brazen fern]

now i have to play onslaught for an hour every time

[charred yacht]

all for the loot chase 😎

[glossy cipher]

im not in america

[brazen fern]

gg

[verbal field]

its peak !

[brazen fern]

guys the tonics are account wide right

[charred yacht]

dont you just hate getting good loot?

[glossy cipher]

we got all these eu people up

[brazen fern]

like the recipes

[verbal field]

yes but if you pop one it wont be on other characters

[fervent veldt]

destiny 2 gorod krovi raid

[brazen fern]

i dont wanna grind this stuff again on hunter

[brazen fern]

hooray thats all i want

[fervent veldt]

destiny 2 shadows of evil raid

[light arrow]

At least I got a withering gaze sniper

[verbal field]

whats so special about withering gaze

[charred yacht]

how fast does chior proc cascade gamers?

[fervent veldt]

weaken

[coarse burrow]

it applies weaken

[verbal field]

yeah and...?

theres like 50 ways to apply weaken

[coarse burrow]

for ads'ing for 1.5 seconds

[fervent veldt]

^^^

[verbal field]

for example weakened clear

[brazen fern]

remember when weaken was something you had to use tractor or a fragment for

[coarse burrow]

it'll become more prominent after this episode i'd imagine

[verbal field]

yeah ig

[brazen fern]

now its just a weapon perk

[light arrow]

and now you can do it without a gl and nor being on void

[verbal field]

oppresive darkness was the most broken thing ever

and now its a fragment

[charred yacht]

power creep hell 😎

[fervent veldt]

all solar season when

[brazen fern]

you have to pop whole supers for weaken

now its just a perk

holy power creep

[compact nova]

im a hunter i press c for weaken

[verbal field]

well thats a different weaken innit bruv

[brazen fern]

but you get my point

[coarse burrow]

can u proc cascade with 1 shotgun shot if u land multiple pellets or do u have to shoot twice

[brazen fern]

think its 2 crits

at least on slugs

idk about pellets

[verbal field]

is choir better to use ads or hipfire now for contest

[fervent veldt]

is it just me or is the only thing exciting about this season is the cosmetics

[brazen fern]

just dont use it 🔥

[verbal field]

just the dungeon for me

[coarse burrow]

i need to test this then bc this could go really hard

[verbal field]

why ?!

[charred yacht]

the exotics are cool imo

[fervent veldt]

the dungeon and the cosmetics !

[brazen fern]

got nerfed to hell

[verbal field]

eh not really

[fervent veldt]

the bright dust store this season is LOOOAADED

[charred yacht]

true

[fervent veldt]

like seriously loaded

[charred yacht]

halloween emotes too 🙏

[fervent veldt]

i might just shill out for silver tbh

[charred yacht]

i will buy the 1 emote if you know you know

[verbal field]

after this dungeon im playing diablo 4 !!

[coarse burrow]

plaguebreaker set makes me wanna buy it, damn

[fervent veldt]

i dont think ive played a diablo game ever

[valid violet]

Is WR farmable this week?

[verbal field]

no

[fervent veldt]

no, its not the featured dungeon

[fervent veldt]

fr

plague doctor outfits i love so much

[fervent veldt]

:(

[wanton halo]

my friend has been like 200-300k pve kills ahead of me for a year

[fervent veldt]

kill him

[wanton halo]

im gonna change that this season

im at 13k solar final blows already

[fervent veldt]

will my procrastination stop

[upbeat quarry]

crit pellets count as one damage instance

[wanton halo]

maybe

[coarse burrow]

pain

[upbeat quarry]

very late answer bc my discord didnt scroll

[coarse burrow]

all good

[echo trellis]

hi naomi hi lia

[coarse burrow]

hi mari

[fervent veldt]

eating lunchlys, drinking prime, watching talk tuah while listening to ksi's new songj

[upbeat quarry]

hi mari !!

[blissful scaffold]

@coarse burrow basically, just use 4th horsemen

[coarse burrow]

i think i will

[echo trellis]

hi wsg cuh

my sister in christ

[upbeat quarry]

not the new episode

[blissful scaffold]

Proc weaken thou gl heavy then finish up with 4th horsemen

[verbal field]

vesper's host will save destiyn 2

[rustic arrow]

destiny 2*

[verbal field]

nope

[gaunt obsidian]

🫥 ppl asking for similiar raid reports for day 1 vesper. they have alot lowman completitions but their lowman completions are hecking checkpoints how is that good

[verbal field]

hecking checkpoints!

[gaunt obsidian]

!!

[fervent veldt]

pluh

[upbeat quarry]

they arent good unless its checkpoints bc its not possible from fresh like duo/solo gos and solo lw

[winged scarab]

im gonna get yall

[verbal field]

meow

SE ost vs DSC ost

[fervent veldt]

SE by far

[upbeat quarry]

music setting on 0

[verbal field]

die

[verbal field]

may be true

[fervent veldt]

no its 100% true

[verbal field]

i feel like SE ost has higher highs but dsc is just consistently good

[coarse burrow]

doom ost drowning out the screams of your enemies >

[fervent veldt]

talk tuah > destiny 2 ost

[sour ermine]

Real

[verbal field]

@fervent veldt whats the best SE song

[fervent veldt]

the one in verity

[verbal field]

wrong

[fervent veldt]

i like herald but verity is cool

[verbal field]

herald is better

[fervent veldt]

anything over deep mid lullaby

[verbal field]

i dont even like dsl that much

[upbeat quarry]

only 600k more xp to 11th arti unlock🔥

[tulip blaze]

bru i just wipeed at wave 50 boss 1hp cuz this bozo rocking a bow and seraphs carbine

[verbal field]

i just love athanasia, security breach and replicate

[fervent veldt]

wtf

[tulip blaze]

im mad heated rn

[verbal field]

seventh seraph carbine goated!

does weakened clear work with wave frames

[upbeat quarry]

probably

[charred yacht]

have you even seen the deeps on the fttc + target lock carbine

kinda trolling if ur not running it

[verbal field]

real

[tulip blaze]

it had auto loading holster actually

[charred yacht]

real gamers will use song of flame cry mutiny with sanguine

only real ones know that strat

[light arrow]

https://youtu.be/GJMEHZVmpCI?t=24

DOOM is eternal

[manic canyon]

i had alot of luck

me n a teammate got nuked by an enemy i didnt see and this guy survived for more then 30 seconds running at enemies

literaly my goat

[coarse burrow]

this server needs some kind of headbang emote

[manic canyon]

why....

[coarse burrow]

why not?

[manic canyon]

[coarse burrow]

ok nvm

[charred yacht]

lmfao

[coarse burrow]

\ (m) /

[wanton halo]

chat do we think solo flawless all dungeons will be enough practice

or should i do some solo flawless master nightfalls too

[manic canyon]

im hyped for new dunfeon

my 1st day 1 ever gang

[light arrow]

[jagged sage]

[charred yacht]

i think just get dps stuff down and have like super good survivability builds and then ur good

[manic canyon]

yes....

[verbal field]

best practice would be contest SE !

[jagged sage]

https://tenor.com/view/super-mario-headbang-head-banging-rocking-out-devil-horns-gif-26520088

[wanton halo]

goodluck

[wanton halo]

im allergic to raids cuz people are too stupid

[manic canyon]

i have my build down set for the entire thing

[wanton halo]

13,993 solar kills this season

[charred yacht]

contest SE enemies chunked ur hp

[winged scarab]

Nah solo GoS

[light arrow]

Does enhanced Withering gaze increase the weaken duration or reduce the ADS time needed to activate the perk?

[wanton halo]

i need to get off the game

[verbal field]

best i can give you is +5 stability (idk)

[manic canyon]

i was on vacation when day 1 se happened sadly

[upbeat quarry]

reduce ads time

[charred yacht]

hardest one i ever tried by far

[light arrow]

hell yeah

[verbal field]

stasis psions !!!

I LOVE STASIS PSIONS

[wanton halo]

yo another better snapshot perk

[charred yacht]

the stasis psions were soooo fcked

[manic canyon]

i havent bothered to clear the raid i js cant bare playing lfg rn

i used to raid alot but raids r dead ash no decent players to teach me

[charred yacht]

SE probably my fave

verity is such a cool encounter

[wanton halo]

SE is a fun raid

[verbal field]

SE is also my favorite raid but i just dont wanna run it lol

[wanton halo]

just as i said people are too stupid to do it if youre LFGing

[charred yacht]

I also do not want to run SE

[manic canyon]

if s1 has a decent raid team to teach id join but im not lfging

[wanton halo]

watch that 40 minute guide to fourth encounter

[manic canyon]

literaly did the raid with 3 decent ppl me and 2 lfgs and the only reason we didnt clear is cuz the 2 lfgs kept fcking up

[verbal field]

anyone else goated at dissection

[charred yacht]

rick khackis 🙏

[wanton halo]

literally only 4th encounter is hard idk why people say the rest is at all hard😭

[verbal field]

4th encounter is easy

[hallow wasp]

beat SE before khackis intro finishes

[wanton halo]

its hard cuz people dont understand it

[charred yacht]

its just that in SE every single encounter nobody can troll

too hard for lfg

[manic canyon]

i think all i need to learn in what order fully so if sm1 has it on paper that would be great. i understand wtf to do

[wanton halo]

its easy mechanically, to be fair the hardest part of that raid mechanically is strafing the witness for some people

[verbal field]

dude omg people dying to witness attacks is so annoying

MOVE

[brazen fern]

yeah man i love 100 colossus stunning me at the same time

excellent activity design bungie

[winged scarab]

just stun em first

[coarse burrow]

just leave at cabal, scorn are way better

[brazen fern]

yeah

im not doing cabal again, cant they just remove them from the game already

they dont have any relevance anymore literally

[coarse burrow]

or maybe rework the drop pods

[hallow wasp]

Bosnian minefield, gorillion tripmines and now pile of colossus, surely this will make us die

[jagged sage]

I love shattering crystals

[verbal field]

new onslaught has cabal??

[brazen fern]

and its cancer

[hallow wasp]

Yes

[coarse burrow]

cabal/scorn

[brazen fern]

you get stunned by a billion colossus

[verbal field]

ive only ever seen scorn

[brazen fern]

die to drop pods

[hallow wasp]

elite phalanx still have the bug where they just put their shield up again nonstop when you shoot the shield down

[brazen fern]

got a billion tripmines

very fun

[hallow wasp]

so only ability spam aoe can kill them

[brazen fern]

cabal in onslaught reminds me of brigitte from ow1

[charred yacht]

back in d2 launch all the drop pods would show where they landed idk why bungie stopped doing that

[brazen fern]

you are playing a stunned simulator

[coarse burrow]

cabal being one of the reasons that duality is the worst dungeon in the game btw

[hallow wasp]

if you look right before they land there is a preview but it's 0.2 seconds before it lands so doesn't matter

[verbal field]

also the mechanic just killing you

[charred yacht]

i give worst dungeon to gotd still

[manic canyon]

seems easy enough

[verbal field]

true and real

[manic canyon]

hardest part of the raid is finding decent people

[verbal field]

it is

[hallow wasp]

I haven't played gotd enough to say but thatsalso because it has nothing relevant

and also giant healthbars

[coarse burrow]

also random backpacks on the ground that the boss can stomp into you mid-dps and ending your sf run!

[verbal field]

i still dont have navigator

[hallow wasp]

nor i

[charred yacht]

gotd final boss is so :^(

[hallow wasp]

and no interest in getting it

[verbal field]

gotd is a slog

[hallow wasp]

it's so long

[manic canyon]

when i played it ngl... the hardest part was killing the ads in 2nd encounter😭 i was struggling

[verbal field]

i would rather just do a full lfg SE

[charred yacht]

truee

[coarse burrow]

gotd would be fine if they got rid of boss shields

[verbal field]

thats where 99% of teams got stuck on day 1

[hallow wasp]

i can't wait for Sunday where i might have time to run gos again finally

[charred yacht]

arbelest gamers

[verbal field]

the stupid stasis psions slowed and 1 shot you

[hallow wasp]

I need the 5 oracle patterns

[manic canyon]

i was under power and it wasnt even day 1 it was after

[coarse burrow]

im not using arbalest lmao

i refuse to use arbalest

[charred yacht]

😎

[fervent veldt]

meow

[hallow wasp]

hi chicken

[fervent veldt]

hai cur

[charred yacht]

bungie killed lament 😢 cant even use it in solo dungeons anymore

[manic canyon]

like 1 of the sherpas was screaming at me that i needed to kill the ads while i couldnt cuz it took 50 years LMAO

[charred yacht]

literally has no uses now

[manic canyon]

shi was funny ash

[verbal field]

💀

idk on normal just use something like khvostov and you kill them all instantly

[manic canyon]

my guns was under power alr

i was like 1940....

[verbal field]

WHY

[hallow wasp]

just use idk the best exotic primary currently available, no big deal

[verbal field]

i think thats more of a power defecit than contest ??

[hallow wasp]

it is

[manic canyon]

THEY PULLED ME INTO THE RAID😭

[hallow wasp]

hostage

[verbal field]

yeah its goated

[manic canyon]

my friend who was sherpaing went on vacation a week later and said yeah we can carry😭

[verbal field]

we love shoot to loot

[upbeat quarry]

hawk tuah ;

[verbal field]

true

[manic canyon]

AND THE FACT IS I DIDNT EVEN DIE THE MOST

[verbal field]

cursed ass sherpa

[manic canyon]

nah bro hes a fine sherpa his friend js has some deep hatred for me so screams at any1 that makes mistakes if im in the raid