💬destiny-chat

[brazen fern]

NO MORE EPISODES

[stark relic]

episodes for 3 episodes then back to "seasons" 💀

[hollow oyster]

ok so more of the same trash then more powercreep and nothing formula breaking

[inland rover]

wait so is reveal rn or tmmrw

[brazen fern]

omg finally

[hollow oyster]

I LOVE POWER CREEP!

[brazen fern]

endgame difficulty will be more than just damage increases

COOL NEW MODIFIERS!!

[inland rover]

wat

[hollow oyster]

ok so theres literally nothing of note here just some lame qol changes LMAO

[brazen fern]

they are finally gonna add real difficulty

[hollow oyster]

game is still cooked do not let this absolute yap fool u!!!

[wanton halo]

i had an aneurism looking at this

[hollow oyster]

kill clip with outlaw icon!!! merging perks??? small indie stuidO!!

[inland rover]

oh is it a twab not a video

[stark relic]

holy they're brining back modifiable difficulty ( nightfall cards basically )

[hollow oyster]

they dont have the BUDGET for that

[inland rover]

nice

[willow anchor]

WTF IS THAT🗣️🗣️‼️‼️

[hollow oyster]

theyre bringing back Five of Swords after 6 years!! so wholesome!

[brazen fern]

yo apollo looks kinda sick

[steel lily]

icebreaker is coming BACK AHHHH

[brazen fern]

wait are they revamping the ui

[stark relic]

which ui

[hollow oyster]

NOPE

u get some heckin quality of liferino updoots and more slop and thats it

[brazen fern]

wait challenge customization is sick

this looks nice

[stark relic]

yeah im glad they're basically bringing back nightfall cards

[hollow oyster]

bro we had it like 7 years ago itll be the same thing

[brazen fern]

i like this

there is incentive to actually do well in endgame activities now

[stark relic]

it wont really matter unless the loot is good though, so i hope it is

[steel lily]

theres always gonna be someone thats not happy with anything they do 😭

[clear vortex]

icebreaker is coming back this might be the shot of insulin i needed

[brazen fern]

i like what im reading

[bright sparrow]

They said literally nothing

[steel lily]

me too im ngl

[bleak thorn]

Do we have to pay new two expansions or are they free?

[bright sparrow]

we are so back baby

[brazen fern]

they will be paid ofc

[bleak thorn]

how much?

[brazen fern]

who knows?

[alpine garnet]

eh we'll see so far i don't rly believe these announcements

[storm relic]

lol

[hollow oyster]

guys i have to answer osirises distress call

[brazen fern]

i like what they are saying, seems promising

[alpine garnet]

who cares, it'll be the same bonfire grindfest

[bleak thorn]

are you sure 100%?

[brazen fern]

dude read the blog

[bleak thorn]

never mind that lol

I am reading it on blog now

[hollow oyster]

cant wait for reddit to eat ts up

[bleak thorn]

same. Nothing change tho

[clear vortex]

why cant they just give the titans the fur coat they've been edging us for 10 years

[willow anchor]

I like how they already scrapped episodes 💀💀💀

[brazen fern]

might have been the right call

[quasi condor]

yeah its safe to say destiny 2 is saved

[willow anchor]

Holy autocorrect

[quasi condor]

@slim bolt we're so back

[brazen fern]

so far this looks promising

[willow anchor]

I will say though

[brazen fern]

idk who was expecting something on the level of d3

[willow anchor]

Alot of you in here stayed on that side

[brazen fern]

the new expansions system remains to be seen, but this has kinda rekindled my optimism

[normal pine]

Where is the blog?

[half portal]

just bring back wrath and itll increase play count by 500% i swear

twab website

[inland rover]

i dont think its enough for a huge wave to come back but its definitely healing

[stark relic]

tbf that is what 10 years of a single franchise does to people

[static ledge]

https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/article/new_frontiers

2 expansions a year starting in summer 2025

[stark relic]

so far it looks ok but i just wanna know what those 4 major updates are atp

[winter heron]

They might be cooking but a word like “non-linear” in destiny is terrifying

[steel lily]

2 raids and dungeons per year is crazy

[bleak thorn]

We will be back when new Destiny 3 elease date

[tacit ledge]

GAMBIT DELETION, INSTANT TYSON GREEN W

[winter heron]

Welcome back raid lairs

[fair fog]

It feels like it’s far out tho. A lot of time between this and now

[stark relic]

isnt that what its always been

[static ledge]

I think my additional question will be cost

[winter heron]

Yeah pretty sure lmao

[stark relic]

1 new + 1 reprised raid / 2 new dungeons

[static ledge]

will expansions become cheaper

[winter heron]

They kinda have to

[brazen fern]

i think it will be cheaper

[stark relic]

probably? but this is bungie so who knows

[steel lily]

i dont count reprised raids

[stark relic]

damn

[brazen fern]

they cant sell 2 50€ expansions in one year

[willow anchor]

Atleast they knew

[brazen fern]

it will probably be 25 bucks

[steel lily]

if its 2 new ones then thats even better but unfortunately we dont know that yet

[static ledge]

also, this is like... a year away. don't forget

[winter heron]

Thats cool and all anyway bring back menagerie

[willow anchor]

Oh they WILL change it

Otherwise my pockets are toast

[winter heron]

I love this aura of mystery the concept art gives so far, gives me d1 vibes i havent felt in a long time

[stark relic]

im gonna guess itll be the same pattern but they just restated it because we didnt know if they were gonna continue doing 2 raids/year

[willow anchor]

Also apparently the new expansions have multiverse elements

[stark relic]

they still have wrath and all the old d2 raids but who knows, maybe they wont reprise them

[willow anchor]

That’s interesting

[gritty robin]

60 dollars per expansion and also you have to nut in a cup and mail it to bungie if you want the season pass

[winter heron]

:(

[brazen fern]

they said multiyear multiple times

at least there is some sort of confirmation

[wanton halo]

Yeah the game is kind of cooked still

[bleak thorn]

Icebreaker Exotic Sniper will return tomorrow reset

[willow anchor]

liar

FAT cap

[wanton halo]

Skibidi

[bleak thorn]

let me show you a pic and send you a dms

[gritty robin]

im a weekend warrior i still dont care, if this game dies ill just go back to playing tabletop warhammer all the time

hopefully they can make GMs hard

[willow anchor]

GIMME

[steel lily]

true but we also havent gotten a new dungeon this year at all hopefully the one they’re talking about is released by the end of the year

[winter heron]

Im just waiting on that transformers looter shooter man

[stark relic]

why tomorrow reset though ( its not happening )

[willow anchor]

Its gonna be a rickroll

[brittle jetty]

They’re deleting gambit??

[bleak thorn]

Check your dms

[deep dune]

Has the GM catch up node been released?

[wanton halo]

Ur trolling so hard

[blissful scaffold]

ICE BREAKER

[winter heron]

Oh

[willow anchor]

YOOOOOO

[wanton halo]

LETS SEE

[willow anchor]

There’s no way

[rugged flume]

2 small expansions/year is hype

[brazen fern]

they kinda cooked

[eternal cloud]

my nurons just fired, I completely missed that

[brazen fern]

credit where credit is due

[wanton halo]

i’m reading it all now

there’s like 5 articles lmao

[brazen fern]

yeah 💀

[blissful scaffold]

Reading skill time

[brazen fern]

they dropped a whole info nuke

[winter heron]

Icebreaker is back by the time pvp has already decomposed and fertilizing plants

[rugged flume]

"First, Destiny is too complex. With literally hundreds of activities, you practically need a PhD to decide what to play " lmao

ICEBREAKER??

[brazen fern]

wait are there actually hundreds of activities

💀

[rugged flume]

Im assuming they're counting each strike as 1 activity

[brazen fern]

i guess that kinda makes sense

[bleak thorn]

I am not trolling. Someone sent a pic proof here

[rugged flume]

MULTI-YEAR SAGA???

[stark relic]

each patrol is a unique activity clearly

[winter heron]

And lost sector

[rugged flume]

NEW FACTIONS

[wanton halo]

2 shadowkeep sized expansions per year is kinda gas i guess

[bleak thorn]

Exotic Sniper Icebreaker is back!

[rugged flume]

Dawg i am hype

[brazen fern]

also no more episodes which is gas

[signal matrix]

Did they just change from 4 seasons to 3 episodes to 4 major updates

[winter heron]

Yeah

[brazen fern]

yeah 😭

[brazen fern]

episodes didnt even last a year

[quasi condor]

[wanton halo]

the codename apollo concept are looks heat..

[rugged flume]

Lmfao

[brazen fern]

the concept art looks sick

[winter heron]

Im gonna miss running around nessus collecting trinkets for failsafe truly peak seasonal content

[willow anchor]

YES

[stark relic]

clearly its no land beyond

[willow anchor]

its back man

[wanton halo]

i love the wasteland look

[signal matrix]

Guess I'm not free from this accursed game

[willow anchor]

I apologize i was unaware of your game sir

[rugged flume]

Gambit will remain available from the Destination map but will not be rolled into the Portal Categories at the start of next year. We are still figuring out our plan for this beloved game mode

[brazen fern]

maybe its something related to riis or something

[rugged flume]

Blessed. Gambit is not dead

[willow anchor]

I CANNOT BELIEVE IT

[blissful scaffold]

ICE BREAKER IN NEXT EPISODE

[slim bolt]

I'm at work tldr me omg

[brazen fern]

that wasteland look has to be fallen related

[willow anchor]

STOP LYING

[wanton halo]

IVEBREAKER GRAHHH

[brazen fern]

2 smaller expansions per year, 4 major free updates every year

[willow anchor]

Oh nevermind i forgot they did say that

[brazen fern]

nightfalls will be customizable now

[willow anchor]

WHY

A MONTH UNTIL MY BABY COMES BACK NOOOO

[bleak thorn]

no worries. I know we are good now

[quasi condor]

tldr: d2 is saved

[bleak thorn]

I forgive you @willow anchor

[brazen fern]

chat are we back

did bungie cook

[bleak thorn]

Did you play Destiny 1 before right?

[willow anchor]

YES

[brazen fern]

🔥

[willow anchor]

WE ACTUALLY ARE “so back”

[brazen fern]

we are so back

[wanton halo]

oh wait we can get the new armor today

[blissful scaffold]

The moment they post this, i knew Bungie gotta bring it

[willow anchor]

Yes

[wanton halo]

the new hunter armor does look nice

they fumbled titan kinda bad 😭

[willow anchor]

I only like the warlock set

Bc it’s literally the trailer set

[wanton halo]

the cloak 🤤

[polar summit]

drool

[willow anchor]

The whole warlock set🤤

[blissful scaffold]

The hunter is based on this

Without the bob window

[wanton halo]

why does that warlock lowkey have aura

[brazen fern]

@wanton halo wait why does hunter look gas

[wanton halo]

it does 😭

[brazen fern]

warlock and titan look so bad 😭

[wanton halo]

i’m hoping it’s ornaments you find and i don’t gotta transmog it

[willow anchor]

Wait WHY does the warlock look so menacing

[brazen fern]

wait you can get the ornaments today

[willow anchor]

YES

[brazen fern]

its in the pale heart

yippee

[willow anchor]

Peak titan

[brazen fern]

@wanton halo you wont be able to get carried anymore

[brazen fern]

in nightfalls

and raids/dungeons

[willow anchor]

If i had that drip but with a long mark it would be a easy 10

GRANDMASTER DUNGEONS YEAAAAH

[brazen fern]

GM GOTD

[willow anchor]

🤮

I do NOT wanna think about that

[compact nova]

deadass?

[blissful scaffold]

Oh no

[compact nova]

whats the farmable dungeon right now

[quasi condor]

yep

[brazen fern]

they cooked

[blissful scaffold]

U guess it.

[willow anchor]

They’re actually thinking about the new lights now too

[brazen fern]

we were not familiar with bungies game

[coarse burrow]

[compact nova]

ghosts, was it?

[willow anchor]

Its GOTD today

Shattered tomorrow I believe

[brazen fern]

yeah

[blissful scaffold]

Meowvigator

[compact nova]

we are so back actually

[willow anchor]

Im still on that tho… they really scrapped episodes already 💀

[compact nova]

yeap

[willow anchor]

Junk was a whole scam

[compact nova]

they really said "watch this comeback" and then actually pulled it off?

[wanton halo]

Where? Tf r u talking abt

[brazen fern]

we are so back chat

[brazen fern]

you know they cooked when they dropped 5 blogs

[blissful scaffold]

What thing ?

[brazen fern]

they were cooking with gas

[willow anchor]

The picture for the twab also showed ice breaker

Put 2 and 2 together

[brazen fern]

fallen themed dungeon 100%

[wanton halo]

Ah

[wanton halo]

I figured that was just a reference to the origins of D1 or something

[blissful scaffold]

[stark relic]

clearly itll be cabal and just be a 1-to-1 copy of that one strike with the stairs everyone would camp under w/ icebreaker

[willow anchor]

I was hoping that it was gonna drop with the 10th anniversary tho

I wonder if its still going to have inf ammo

[blissful scaffold]

@willow anchor be prepare to do the new dungeon 3 times a week for the chance at ICEBREAKER

[stark relic]

Cerberus Vae 3 that was the strike

[willow anchor]

Oh im gonna be slaving

[stark relic]

honestly i feel like itll regen ammo but not from 0

[willow anchor]

Dont get that twisted

[blissful scaffold]

Unlike @fervent veldt who got BB first try

[wanton halo]

We are going to Uranus for Apollo

[verbal tree]

PAYing the Way for New Frontiers

[willow anchor]

Idk why tf everybody on twitter keeps assuming the prices of the expansions

Like mf they’re MEDIUM sized expansions of course its not gonna be 60 each

[quasi condor]

its bungie though

[verbal tree]

sure..

[stark relic]

bungie has still not fixed their name filter 😔 another week

[willow anchor]

This guy is a supervillain

He’s definitely planning on getting rid of all games so we cant play anything 🙀

[brazen fern]

bungie really went ahead and made craftening a feature

LMAOOOO

[willow anchor]

I will delete my xenophage if it’s actually 60 each

They are NOT doing that

[brazen fern]

arent allowed to get it from collections

[bleak thorn]

Secret Asian Flan posted a pic here. You should see it again lol

[willow anchor]

It has 6k on it… its one if my prized possessions 🥲

[brazen fern]

im gonna be dead honest here, if you get more content total with those 2 expansions than one annual expansion, i wouldnt be upset with a total price increase

[willow anchor]

I mean i guess

[wanton halo]

To be fair the content updates are free

[brazen fern]

you got 4 major free content drops and 2 middle sized expansions

[rugged flume]

We are so back

[brazen fern]

im on board with this

[bleak thorn]

I thought we have to pay new expansions or no?

[willow anchor]

But im saying that it would be REALLY dumb of them to make them both 60 if they’re not even as big as previous expansions

[brazen fern]

those content drops are supposedly like into the light

[brazen fern]

this wont happen

[willow anchor]

Yep

[rugged flume]

Id pay like 50 cad a piece for the "deluxe"

[brazen fern]

they will probably cost like 30 bucks

or 25 if they are generous

[wanton halo]

Expansions are still paid but we now have free content drops, too. It's like into the light

[rugged flume]

Bc the deluxe rn is, what. 130CAD?

[warm patrol]

Probably

[willow anchor]

How much will the deluxe ones be thats my question

[warm patrol]

Well that’s the dungeon key and the deluxe version with the season pass too

[willow anchor]

They did say that they would be adding new modes like onslaught too

[bleak thorn]

Are you from Canada? If yes I am from Canada too lol

[rugged flume]

Yea lol

[warm patrol]

Gross

[willow anchor]

They probably will have an annual pass that gives you everything in both expansions

[bleak thorn]

I always buy it on CDKEYS because of no tax plus and good price. I don't buy any games on steam because of tax plus and expensive too

[steel lily]

bring back the fallen weapons and im all yours bungie

[willow anchor]

I already know cross is loosing it rn

[brazen fern]

and all the season pass shenanigans

[brazen fern]

im watching his stream

[rugged flume]

I live in Alberta so tax isnt bad, here

[willow anchor]

Yeah thats what i was talking about

[brazen fern]

im still confused though

[bleak thorn]

$130 CAD is crazy expensive man

I live in Ontario

[willow anchor]

Im gonna reread that twab at some point today

[static yarrow]

Just woke up, surely didn't miss anything right

[brazen fern]

they said there will be 2 major updates per expansion, does this mean there is only one season pass every expansion?

or is the season pass gonna be optional now

[dense fox]

2 passes every major expansioon

[rugged flume]

Ontario you guys have like a 13% tax it's wild
We have 5% here. Also... you guys put your milk in bags

[brazen fern]

if you wanna play all the content besides dungeons

[steel lily]

^

[dense fox]

we get a new pass every 3 months and a new exspansion every 6

[bleak thorn]

Yeah thats why I dont buy any games on steam lol. I only purchase games on CDKEYS that's it

[brazen fern]

so we are back to seasons

but 2 seasons every expansion

[willow anchor]

Oooh

What about the dungeon keys tho

Thats my question

[steel lily]

seasons were always around 3 months long right

[brazen fern]

probably one per expansion or they are doing away with the whole dungeon key system

OR we get 1 dungeon every expansion and the key only costs 10 bucks

[willow anchor]

They said they were getting rid of episodes I believe

[brazen fern]

and its per expansion

[willow anchor]

I was thinking that

[wanton halo]

"As for the rewards, there will be higher tiers of the Legendary gear—think Adept weapons and Artifice armor"
This tickles my monkey brain

[brazen fern]

or they will just sell the dungeons seperately

be it for silver or real money

[wanton halo]

Pretty much

[brazen fern]

its a very good thing bungie ditched it

credit where credits due

they saw people really didnt like it and did away with it

[wanton halo]

When is new episode or whatever

[brazen fern]

although i hope this doesnt mean the remaining episodes are ass…

[static ledge]

this is all a year away

[meager flower]

We are saved

[alpine garnet]

300 stats grind again

[brazen fern]

ok so there will be a rewards pass now and ALL the content will be free besides dungeons?

[willow anchor]

CREDIT??!?? Mf they scammed us💀

[brazen fern]

so no more season pass lock?

[brazen fern]

they tested a new format amd it didnt go well, so they removed it and evolved the seasonal format, thats some progress

[wanton halo]

Oh wait did they like fully hire Allison? That's kinda weird since they fired the previous narrative lead.

[drowsy palm]

Can i farm the exotic sidearm from worldruin if it’s not the weekly challenge

[brazen fern]

i think alison was a baldurs gate writer

[static ledge]

so they're still gonna get 70/year

[brazen fern]

or something like that idk

[bleak thorn]

I dont know if I can continue to play this game D2. I am getting older already : (

[static ledge]

them doing the reward pass is crappy

[willow anchor]

Only one clear per character if its not weekly

[brazen fern]

yeah alison was a writer on bg3

chat she will cook

[drowsy palm]

Ok thank u

[willow anchor]

Its a new dungeon so its not weekly yet

[molten pike]

no shot, thats sick we got her then

[brazen fern]

she also wrote 15 stories for magic the gathering

[drifting idol]

Time to scroll up a ways and see the thougths about that blog post

[molten pike]

yeah def gotta let her cook then

[brazen fern]

yeah we are in good hands chat

[wanton halo]

Can't wait for hunters to have yet another busted way of mobility

[brazen fern]

she only became narrative director with final shape

let her cook

[unkempt basalt]

you still only have one chance per week to get the exotic, everything else can be repeatedly farmed

[compact nova]

how tf do you get 2 million damage as the team's designated div hoe

[steel lily]

i dont think i can go through another 6 month season again if they decide to do it

[wanton halo]

She was one of the writers for 3 yeah she also worked in season of the deep, witch, and TFS Co lead

[unkempt basalt]

then don't 🤷‍♂️

[brazen fern]

associate narrative director

now she is full blown narrative director, i loved the bg3 story

go play something else then

[static ledge]

so they killed off a character off-panel?

[brazen fern]

go ahead

[alpine garnet]

ppl huffing copium on industrial scale today. I seen this bungie’s marketing babble thousand of times

[brazen fern]

bungie could announce d3 and people would still find ways to be upset

like idk what you were expecting today

[rocky geyser]

Bungie should go through the entire game adding strand grapple points everywhere

[wanton halo]

I trust bungie
Otherwise I would have dropped the game after shadowkeep or curse of Osiris

[tame forum]

i enjoy the fact they ditched "episodes" immediately

[brazen fern]

but they are revamping almost everything in the game

this is more than i expected

[brazen fern]

ong didnt even last a year

[mental olive]

So icebreaker?

[tame forum]

destination concept art was cool ngl

[rocky geyser]

Imagine if they add red chest puzzles to old raids

[static ledge]

After the death of an old lightless mentor

[wanton halo]

Like I still don't know how you think curse was anything but a huge ? In your development

[static ledge]

either Zavala or Osiris

[tame forum]

the portal just looks confusing and a bit too much

[brazen fern]

you want them to spoil the story a year before or something

[willow anchor]

Yes

Its the dungeon exotic

[brazen fern]

what kind of take is this

[rocky geyser]

Portal looks good

[tame forum]

W vanguard ops death

the topic is icebreaker

[sterile atlas]

"Each armor set can be found starting today, September 9, when exploring the surroundings of the Tower in The Pale Heart." i dont get it, its not out yet, right? why did they write it like its out already

[brazen fern]

its supposed to be a mystery for now, its a new saga

[tame forum]

season of the icebreaker

[rocky geyser]

It’s just a list of content that drops good loot that changes seasonally

[mental olive]

Honestly the “new” structure of the year is just seasons

[brazen fern]

we are essentially in a blank period rn narrative wise

[tame forum]

expansion name - icebreaker's return

[compact nova]

BUNGIE! REPRISE LEVIATHAN AND RED WAR AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!

[tame forum]

dungeon name - icebroken

[brazen fern]

ok cool 👍

go play another game

[static ledge]

all this is a YEAR away

[wanton halo]

Think they meant Tuesday since it's reset

[dense fox]

prob get the dungeon/raid when you buy the big expansion

[rocky geyser]

From what they said it sounds like the story in Apollo is structured like High On Life

[brazen fern]

the concept art looks clean

[static ledge]

since it's one year, what happens in the meantime?

[willow anchor]

YES

[brazen fern]

the remaining episodes

[willow anchor]

GIMME CS SHADER PLEASE

[brazen fern]

we are in a blank period in the story of tieing up loose ends

[static ledge]

oof

[willow anchor]

Idk why people keep coming to this chat just to complain like they’re forced to buy the expansions or something

[rocky geyser]

Add lost sectors to pvp maps

[brazen fern]

the leaks made it sound so much worse than it actually is

[sterile atlas]

yeah, i thought the same, but it made think for a second as if its out, weird they didnt write it "next reset"

[static ledge]

nah, just pointing out this is a YEAR away

[willow anchor]

Nope they literally said it exactly like this, everyone was assuming that we were getting shadowkeep tier trash content

[mystic valve]

i thought from the leak it would be one tinier expansion a year, may be me just being illiterate

[wanton halo]

Oh yeah character limit

[paper mulch]

Happy 10th anniversary to the game of games

[warm patrol]

Maybe wait for daily reset

We might get a hot fix or small update

[tame forum]

happy 10 years of dead game

[willow anchor]

Nope

[tame forum]

dead since launch

[rocky geyser]

Destiny is the most dead game to ever die

[willow anchor]

And i was one of the people saying that 2 smaller expansions a year is not a bad idea at all

[tame forum]

never been alive for even a second

[willow anchor]

Concord

[tame forum]

alive and well wdym

[wanton halo]

"There’s no time gating, no waiting for the next drop, Codename: Apollo’s story unfolds based on player progression"
Hmm that's dangerous territory if they had struggle to piece together previous campaigns (lightfall)

[tame forum]

100 concillion players online atm

[willow anchor]

W troll

[wanton halo]

Concord coming to a delete press near you

[coarse burrow]

So when genchat raid that I can be a part of

[static ledge]

especially since you can explore different nonlinear paths

[rocky geyser]

Different story paths that all need to lead to the same ending

[static ledge]

yep

[tame forum]

now

tap in scourge raid

[coarse burrow]

Dont play with my feelings 😦

[tame forum]

i am available to genchat raid

2/6 and the fake genchatters are asleep 🥱

[floral bridge]

Well, at least Icebreaker is coming, heh.

[prisma yew]

is the destiny anniversary live rn or later today

[willow anchor]

I think in less than an hour

[tame forum]

never

[willow anchor]

Idk if im gonna go for legend

[tame forum]

the anniversary is a lie

[prisma yew]

ok thanks im waiting on this shii

[tame forum]

it'll probably be very easy

[prisma yew]

Destiny doesn't exist it was shut down 2 years ago

[somber snow]

Wait FK its gonna happen during my lecture 😭

[willow anchor]

Even still so i wanna grind for it

[tame forum]

cringe rankbot

[prisma yew]

real

[somber snow]

Someone ping me with a tl:dr in like 2 and a half hours from now or smth idk

[prisma yew]

Imma grind for all the amor sets

[warm patrol]

I think it might be easy enough

[wanton halo]

they’ll be available in the tower in the pale heart i think?

[warm patrol]

They said it’s just around the tower in the pale heart

[prisma yew]

thats what I read

[warm patrol]

Yes

[steel lily]

yeah the title is easy af

[tame forum]

"beat overthrows in each area"

[wanton halo]

😭

[tame forum]

cant wait for that one

[prisma yew]

what do we need to do

[steel lily]

its just mainly getting the armor and then doing activities with it

[wanton halo]

we are getting a new dungeon too :3!!

[steel lily]

also u need to reach a certain guardian rank

[wanton halo]

soon presumably

[quasi berry]

love the new content model

[steel lily]

8 or 9 if i remember correctly

[wanton halo]

i’m gr11 🥱

[tame forum]

i sure would love to transmog the new armor with my non-refreshed synthweave

[prisma yew]

BUNGIE BRING BACK RED WAR, WARMIND (mid asf), Curse of Osiris(dogshi), and forsaken PLSSSS

[wanton halo]

i’m praying the armor you get is ornaments.

[warm patrol]

Yeah lmao I’m out on my hunter

[wanton halo]

i have none either 😭

i only have some on titan i can still get

[compact nova]

red war is peak

[tame forum]

[wanton halo]

like 3 i think 😭😭😭

[warm patrol]

It’s so dumb why do we have to pay for it

[prisma yew]

good aslong as I dont have to do a raid or dungeon 💀

[compact nova]

i never really got to finish it but i want to

[willow anchor]

Rankbot is always cringe

[tame forum]

im completely out of ada bounties on all characters

[prisma yew]

I became a d2 player right after they vaulted all that so i was unlucky asf

I forget which season it was

[compact nova]

i played a little bit during sk where it was still available

but never finished it

[prisma yew]

lucky you 😭

[rocky geyser]

Drifter should be the next main character

[prisma yew]

oof

[willow anchor]

They said you have to “explore” the pale heart to find the armor

Also hai andro

[prisma yew]

drifter is a hunter right?

[wanton halo]

do i have to transmog it.

[stiff galleon]

classless

[static yarrow]

Looks like the coil is coming back

[wanton halo]

hai :3

[prisma yew]

really?

[willow anchor]

Not sure

[stiff galleon]

yes, classes are arbitrary

[wanton halo]

they’ll be bringing back activities like it but i don’t think coil is returning

[rocky geyser]

Drifter doesn’t care that

[willow anchor]

If i had to guess probably yeah

[stiff galleon]

older guardians dont really stick to classes

[prisma yew]

he's a lightbearer rioght?

[stiff galleon]

yes

in lore anyone can wield anything pretty much

[rocky geyser]

Classes are like martial arts in lore

[prisma yew]

ah

[stiff galleon]

classes are more like their duties kinda

[steel lily]

prismatic is definitely gonna be the closest to lore accurate guardian we’re gonna get

[prisma yew]

Marathon is going to kill bungie im just playing d2 while I can before it dies

[wanton halo]

I hope we get more drifter like they did made it sound they are moving away from established characters but drifter has always just

Been there in the background

[brazen fern]

more like preference/affinity

if you are a big guy for example, you will probably become a titan

there are no strict rules tho

think its also strongly based on personality traits

[wanton halo]

so if i’m a twink…

i’ll be a hunter you’re saying

[brazen fern]

yeah you are probably a hunter...

[wanton halo]

😭

[brazen fern]

or warlock 🔥

[wanton halo]

i am NOT a twink! 🌩️

[tired hill]

OK.

[wanton halo]

Marathon can go either way
Assuming the leak was legit I am just happy it ain't a hero shooter. I do wonder if the customization is still in

[tired hill]

I'm a titan.

[brazen fern]

im also NOT a twink

[tired hill]

OK.

[wanton halo]

extraction shooter, that’ll surely succeed

[coral walrus]

I just dont play d2 so i dont really come here

[wanton halo]

it’s not like we haven’t had a bunch of those

[modest valve]

whats the best lost signal roll

[brazen fern]

i heard a good take yesterday in lfg about marathon

[stiff galleon]

not really, titans are the ones supposed to be defending thr last city, hunters are explorers and stuff

[blissful scaffold]

yet you are here

[brazen fern]

people who play extraction shooters are ultra loyalists

[stiff galleon]

idk what warlocks are supposed to do, be nerds ig

[wanton halo]

being?

[tired hill]

All I did was played Harry potter games yesterday

[modest valve]

anyone know the best lost signal roll

[blissful scaffold]

i didnt ask you

[wanton halo]

vorpal ALH

[brazen fern]

marathon probably wont succeed cause of extraction shooter players being extremely loyal to their favorite extraction shooter

be it tarkov or hunt showdown

[tired hill]

Today I'm going to be playing space marine 2.

[wanton halo]

yes

[blissful scaffold]

bro keep talking

[brazen fern]

like marathon has to do something very special for it to get a decent player base

[wanton halo]

helldivers walked so space marine could run

[brazen fern]

something that pulls those loyalists away

[wanton halo]

from the trailer i like the whole bio tech kinda look

giving death stranding vibes a little yk

[brazen fern]

i like the aesthetic

[wanton halo]

idk let them cook i say 🗣️

[tired hill]

You mean helldivers got kneecapped by Sony so space marine could walk lol

[wanton halo]

yea pretty much

[willow anchor]

I could never play more than 2 games of helldivers before wanting to get off

[wanton halo]

also no updates and unreasonable nerfs by the devs

[willow anchor]

It got so boring so quickly to me

[brazen fern]

also it will have bungie gunplay so its automatically an amazing game fundamentally

[wanton halo]

why are we nerfing like everything in a pve setting

[compact nova]

are we actually back?

[wanton halo]

when the game gets illuminates i’ll play it

[tired hill]

The devs behind space marine 2 did world War z, they got a good track record.

[wanton halo]

so it’ll tickle my brain?

[compact nova]

also space marine 2 is out yay

[brazen fern]

like d2 tickles your brain

[compact nova]

did it flop or did they cook

[brazen fern]

:3

[wanton halo]

space marine should have had 100 player lobbies

[tired hill]

I can't play it for 5 hours 😭

[willow anchor]

Yes

[brazen fern]

either way

[willow anchor]

Actually cooked

[wanton halo]

imagine 100 marines slaughtering creatures

[brazen fern]

we are so back chat

[weak sundial]

Is this a w or l ?

[wanton halo]

W i suppose

[willow anchor]

Ice breaker is coming back in a month @compact nova

[wanton halo]

they handled it better than lightfall 😭

[tired hill]

Space marine 2 is gonna be decent enough I bet why I bought it lol

It doesn't have to be goty or anything lol

[stiff galleon]

i like how they changed to an episodic model just to change away from it again in the next year

[wanton halo]

cause episodes are so bad

[coarse burrow]

Bring back old mod system and sword skating and we're definitely back

[wanton halo]

we are NOT getting d1 sword skating back 😭

[bleak thorn]

Is that true about gambit will be remove soon anytime?

[coarse burrow]

I meant pre-shadowkeep sword skating lol

[wanton halo]

ohh

[silk edge]

Guys the game is saved

[wanton halo]

bungie give us twilight garrison please

[stiff galleon]

i dont even think thats the case, it seems like theyre just throwing anything at the wall to see if it sticks now

[silk edge]

we got Icebreaker back

[spice lotus]

marathon won’t succeed if they end up price gouging people, not F2P then a lot of people won’t care

[compact nova]

what even is that

[half gate]

Petition to make the 1k catalyst infinite ammo

[willow anchor]

D2 zoomer?

[tired hill]

Probably.

[brazen fern]

didnt a dev just say its never coming back 😭😭

[half gate]

Lore accurate guardians fr

[silk edge]

[wanton halo]

WHY. FOR WHAT PURPOSE

[compact nova]

yep i only started playing like a month before tfs

[brazen fern]

they wanted to make warlock the movement class 😭

[silk edge]

They just confirmed on a blog post

[wanton halo]

I WANT TWILIGHT GARISON

[stiff galleon]

they didn't bring it back when they received death threats, theyre not gonna bring it back now

[wanton halo]

I WANT MY TITAN SKATING DAMNJT >:c

[silk edge]

Its the next dungeons exotic

[wanton halo]

wouldn’t the solution to that be, bring it back

[willow anchor]

It was a OP regenerating special ammo sniper that did DAMAGE

[willow anchor]

ME TOO😭

[stiff galleon]

no, their solution was to just ignore it

[compact nova]

we have 2 of those already

[wanton halo]

like dude

[compact nova]

im good

[willow anchor]

Bring back titan movement

[wanton halo]

i don’t WANT to play warlock but i HAVE to

[silk edge]

Yall titans already have trhuster

[brazen fern]

@wanton halo i got the quote

[compact nova]

bring back pocket infinity and im content

[wanton halo]

skull react this guy please

[half gate]

I want Zalo Supercell and self res back

[willow anchor]

If titan had warlock movement I would die

[silk edge]

I thought u were new gen

[willow anchor]

Of fun

[brazen fern]

"titans will never get air dodge back my guy, its part of the warlock identity. sorry but i want to rip that bandaid off"

LOOOOL

[silk edge]

Yall can bubble skate tho

[willow anchor]

Ion wanna hear it

[half gate]

Womp womp, warlocks for the win

[silk edge]

Didnt you know that?

[half gate]

Too bad we can’t get self res back

[civic kettle]

💀

[willow anchor]

We do NOT care about bubble skating 💀

[half gate]

Bubble skating sucks

[willow anchor]

Who tf is bubble skating in 2024

[spice lotus]

no one really wants to pay for live service games anymore unless there’s a campaign attached like Division 2

[brazen fern]

people who waste super on skating

[half gate]

Fr just stop playing titan

[willow anchor]

Gotta be

[silk edge]

Well then u are just ungrateful for the things u got

[tired hill]

Pretty much.

[willow anchor]

I guess so😔

Call me ungrateful

[silk edge]

Welp im going back to dashing and well skating now

[half gate]

Dude, you’re in a Destiny 2 chat, nobody but ungrateful tryhards play

[silk edge]

👋

[half gate]

Literally water is wet

[coarse burrow]

How would I insta unalive myself in like root of nightmares w/o using heavy

[silk edge]

alt + f4

[half gate]

Jump off the edge into a kill zone

[coarse burrow]

Or an exotic

[half gate]

[coarse burrow]

It has to be by where I spawn

[willow anchor]

Man i dont wanna wait 70 years for my hair to dry again 😔

[silk edge]

alt + f4

[willow anchor]

This sucks

[half gate]

Sledgehammer the PC

[coarse burrow]

ty yall have been very unhelpful 🙂

[half gate]

Womp womp

[willow anchor]

Peak d2 chat

[half gate]

[compact nova]

i watched a video about old exotics people want back and it sounded funny

[sleek trail]

HELLO!

[steel lily]

well theres nothing u can do tbh

[willow anchor]

Drake in 2024💀

[steel lily]

if u have a rocket sidearm u can shoot the the floor where your feet are

[half gate]

I found a clan called “Diddy’s Disciples” 💀

[steel lily]

oh u said insta nvm then

[silk edge]

Where can I sign up

[half gate]

[silk edge]

[half gate]

[coarse burrow]

Yee

[silk edge]

[willow anchor]

SF root perhaps???

[coarse burrow]

No thanks 😭

[half gate]

Or just don’t play Root

[chrome pivot]

say mayhaps trust

it makes u sound cooler

🥶

[willow anchor]

If i could have twilight gary and synthos i would be unstoppable

PEAK TITAN

[silk edge]

hah

keep dreaming crayon muncher

[half gate]

[tired hill]

I will.

[half gate]

Titans should be deleted fr

[chrome pivot]

😡

[half gate]

[tired hill]

Strong words with that haircut.

[willow anchor]

Warlocks huh?

[chrome pivot]

looks like an edgar and mclovin had a kid

[half gate]

Difference between my haircut and titans is my haircut doesn’t eat crayons

[chrome pivot]

orignal insult buddy

[tired hill]

It probably only eats Dino nuggets.

[brazen fern]

bungie, i wasnt familiar with your game

[half gate]

I’m sorry let me be original, SHARPIES

[silk edge]

Remember that one time when titans were fast in dest...oh yeah different timeline

[half gate]

That was eons ago, some say ancient…

[willow anchor]

Can yall say anything other than crayons?

[half gate]

Markers

[willow anchor]

We get it we like crayons

[silk edge]

Pencils

[chrome pivot]

you really only know about those kinda insults you bottom feeding trogladite

[tired hill]

[willow anchor]

I like the blue ones we get it

[chrome pivot]

learn some new ones

[steel lily]

bungie bring back worldline skating and my life is yours

[half gate]

Says you, you Neanderthal boinking fatass

[chrome pivot]

blue and red best flavors

[silk edge]

Bungie bring back no land and my life is yours

[chrome pivot]

you weigh prolly triple my weight

[silk edge]

dayum

[willow anchor]

Damn we got real beef in here

[half gate]

Erm eager edge is the new world line skating 🤓☝️

[chrome pivot]

you get no hoes i know for a fact

and u prolly play val

[half gate]

Ew Val is gross

[chrome pivot]

and force ur voice

[silk edge]

ERHM ACTUALLY WELL SKATING IS WORD LINE SKATING +1 🤓

[chrome pivot]

also who r u calling fat

[half gate]

Val is only for autistic people

[half gate]

You

[scarlet ermine]

guys whats the verdict on the blog

[twilit pewter]

its joever

[silk edge]

We are so back

[scarlet ermine]

its tysonver

[steel lily]

but but my special vex animation

[silk edge]

ITS GONE. REDUCED TO ATOMS

[mellow crescent]

e

[silk edge]

get over it

[willow anchor]

They cooked

[thick elbow]

Just returning since the end of 30th anniversary content

[silk edge]

[half gate]

Leave now while you still can

[thick elbow]

Lots I have missed.

[silk edge]

Dont come back

[scarlet ermine]

if only there was like a campaign that could onboard new players and tell you the story of destiny 2 from the beginning

[thick elbow]

Too late. Rebought my dlcs

[half gate]

Free yourself before you fall back into it

[willow anchor]

Rip

[silk edge]

[thick elbow]

0.0

[half gate]

Nobody likes you

Stupid bot

[mellow crescent]

.

[thick elbow]

Lmao

[twilit pewter]

surely they add it back right

[brazen fern]

we are so back

[half gate]

Nope

[chrome pivot]

your built like ballon boy shut up bro 😭

[thick elbow]

So the red war is gone gone now huh?

[silk edge]

I've been an addict for the past 10 years... I CANT STOP PLAYING

[thick elbow]

That's crazy

[chrome pivot]

sadly

[willow anchor]

Balloon boy is crazy

[brazen fern]

they are actually trying new, cool and risky things with the game

[half gate]

Nah I’m good

[chrome pivot]

ballon boy is true

[thick elbow]

I remember swuadding up with the boys to struggle our way through calud.

[scarlet ermine]

guys 2 minutes until the apple event

[half gate]

And still somehow mess up

[thick elbow]

Is leviathan still around?

[brazen fern]

snooze

[half gate]

I wish

[vast star]

when are we getting the big codename frontier reveal?

[brazen fern]

i have to watch cause im an apple shareholder

[silk edge]

YIPPEE YOU GUYS FINALLY GET BLUETOOTH

[brazen fern]

and im just curious

[half gate]

Never

[chrome pivot]

great come back, well i would call u lil bro but ur more like gigantic bro

[thick elbow]

Dang. Sad. I used to just hang out on that map

[scarlet ermine]

you dont have to worry the stock will go up

[brazen fern]

i dont plan on buying anything new this year anyways

maybe an iphone but thats it

[half gate]

Womp womp somebody is mad

[willow anchor]

Welcome back, just so you know this chat is a cesspool of complaining and beef

[vast star]

aren't they gonna reveal stuff for the anni?

[silk edge]

Dont buy apple

[chrome pivot]

heres a tip dont buy stocks

[half gate]

Yeah probably

[brazen fern]

why not

[thick elbow]

Don't buy socks?

[willow anchor]

Squabbling if you will

[chrome pivot]

im not mad lol just bored dawg

[scarlet ermine]

yeah just keep all your money in checking

[vast star]

when's the anni

[silk edge]

IT SUCCCS

[brazen fern]

how so

[scarlet ermine]

ive got like 300k in my checking account

[half gate]

Valid and relatable

[thick elbow]

The 40k warhammer has returned

[chrome pivot]

fighting is more fun than just talking

[rugged flume]

Wait 2 new raids/year??

[silk edge]

Bc I said so mister

[willow anchor]

10th ani just dropped btw

[thick elbow]

^^ I saw that

[silk edge]

Yippee armor that i need to use transmog on

[chrome pivot]

real

[willow anchor]

We dont know that

[silk edge]

I think we do

[chrome pivot]

guess i gotta hop on today

[willow anchor]

Holy assuming

[scarlet ermine]

raids were not mentioned at all i think

[chrome pivot]

its finna be the same as 30th fr 😭

[blissful scaffold]

reset is here.

[thick elbow]

^^

30th yeah. Reset happening?

[rugged flume]

Its on the roadmap
New raid/dungeon each expansion

[willow anchor]

It aint reset yet

[thick elbow]

Shard is right

It is confirmed as on the timeline

[bleak thorn]

Tmw reset so your timezone need to fix asap

[scarlet ermine]

oh yeah i see it now i just didnt read it originally

[spice lotus]

felt mid

[rugged flume]

Dawg! This is hype!!
Still gotta do SE tho gonna get to it this friday prollu

[chrome pivot]

hes aussie

[rugged flume]

We are so back

[chrome pivot]

so its like tmrw i think

[scarlet ermine]

well im glad some people are happy

[blissful scaffold]

i am asia

[chrome pivot]

titan armor looks hella mid

[chrome pivot]

erm oops i knew that fs fs

[thick elbow]

As always

[rugged flume]

Ngl I fw thr hunter and titan armour hard

[vast star]

Did anni just drop? are we getting the reveal today?

[blissful scaffold]

Mid for eveverything

[thick elbow]

I haven't enjoyed titan armor since.. 2019

[blissful scaffold]

like your eyes

[bleak thorn]

Right I forgot lol

[chrome pivot]

the only good one is straight up the dnd armor

[thick elbow]

Truly pretty back then

[blissful scaffold]

everywhere u looks at , it is "mid"

[chrome pivot]

chroamacloak is good

[vast star]

did they forget to make the armor good or what 💀

[chrome pivot]

for titan

[thick elbow]

It look ok yeah

[willow anchor]

The warlock set is good

[blissful scaffold]

hunter could have bob window but sad cause the game is rated E for Everyone

[thick elbow]

I just haven't liked the detailing on titan stuff lately.

[chrome pivot]

i run that witht he new arm peice in green coloration

[half gate]

Bro the titan DND armor looks so good it makes me 😩

[rugged flume]

Game's rated T for Teen, brother

[blissful scaffold]

idk. go to Korea and join their artist

[clear geode]

Just got a "Dissappointment" triumph. Bungie what is this? LOL

[rugged flume]

Ikora said the b-word one time

[chrome pivot]

same(im brokie and cant afford)

[half gate]

Neither can I bro

[blissful scaffold]

eh, it is E for everyone (including cheater)

[chrome pivot]

WHAT? WHERE(i am one)

[thick elbow]

Hunter armor is the best looking this season. Warlocks close 2nd

[vast star]

bungie has plenty good artists wdym, they just need to let them make stuff for outside-eververse sources

[chrome pivot]

truee

[thick elbow]

Titans... I'm sorry. This season did yall dirty

[chrome pivot]

hunter meta is so stupid

titan meta when

THATS THE JOKE! NEVER

[thick elbow]

Hunters have always been the best.
"Lord Of Wolves represents his class"

[blissful scaffold]

Then boycott at Bungie HQ

[thick elbow]

If we don't look good. Who will

[half gate]

Me when prismatic consecration titan:

[chrome pivot]

cowboy titan goes hard

[vast star]

yea lemme just do that thx for the input

[clear geode]

3rd seal on the title menu. Seems new

[thick elbow]

Yeah but cowboy warlock look better

[rugged flume]

Dawg we were elite so many times

[chrome pivot]

fletcheete storm is better fr

[chrome pivot]

yeah ik im coping

[half gate]

Yeah true true

[willow anchor]

You gotta be trolling

[blissful scaffold]

Hunter armor was based on the middle one but got censored

[thick elbow]

Yeah but if you have to try to be better then hunters. We are the par your going for in the first place. Objectively that makes us better

[brittle ravine]

oem + red death is really really nice in this weeks trials

[blissful scaffold]

Left and right dont count

[half gate]

Ngl warlock and titan have been meta so many times, but still hunters don’t deserve a meta

[rugged flume]

Old Loreley Splendor

[chrome pivot]

titan looks lke warframe fr

[willow anchor]

Kids game

[rugged flume]

‼️

[half gate]

Hunters are played by wannabe Tfue emos 💀

(Old Tfue)

[thick elbow]

Lmao or players who want to be the best lmao

[chrome pivot]

real 😭

[thick elbow]

I took the top 3 percentile with a hunter. We're just better

[blissful scaffold]

Titan armor without the loincloth

[chrome pivot]

"or players who want to be the best lmao🤓 ☝️ "

[thick elbow]

Freal tho lmao

[half gate]

[blissful scaffold]

Peaked design

[thick elbow]

Hunters r just awesome .
Titan in a thunder crash? Shadow shot. 2arlock in solar healing ward? Shadow blades

[chrome pivot]

kinda fire

id rock it

[blissful scaffold]

the raid will return this year

[thick elbow]

Another hunter with golden gun? The best counter? Hunter with golden gun

[chrome pivot]

the copium is crazy

[chrome pivot]

what raid is it?

(i didnt play d1)

[thick elbow]

No opium just facts brudda. Go competitive and see which character the top Asian folk play

[blissful scaffold]

oh dear

[thick elbow]

Typically it's hunters and warlocks.

[chrome pivot]

😭

[thick elbow]

Titans are a good kids toy.

[blissful scaffold]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x93pUChVeg

[chrome pivot]

OHHH

I KNOW NOW OOPS 😭

[scarlet sapphire]

Does anyone know what the secret triumphs are in the legend title

[willow anchor]

We dont know if wrath will return

[chrome pivot]

we have the coolest stasis

[blissful scaffold]

[chrome pivot]

prayge

[willow anchor]

At one point they literally said that its not

[chrome pivot]

i want a raid without jumping puzzles or smthn liek crota pit

[chrome pivot]

🙏 🔥

[blissful scaffold]

one more weeks

[chrome pivot]

[wanton halo]

says who

[blissful scaffold]

The Traveller

[chrome pivot]

MY MOM!!!

WOOOOO

[wanton halo]

😱

[willow anchor]

Im saying

[chrome pivot]

im muscle man !!

[molten pike]

deleted the new warlock gauntlets and they arent showing in transmog, sweet

[wanton halo]

gg

[willow anchor]

Wrath is not coming back unless they actually bring back splicer enemies

[steel lily]

do u find them just by searching chests or what

[willow anchor]

As much as i want that

[molten pike]

found the arms by where you get khvostov in the pale heart tower

dont delete them though

[steel lily]

interesting

[chrome pivot]

um...whats a splicer

[river escarp]

CAYDES STASH?

[thick elbow]

HAHAHAHA

[river escarp]

new quest fortitle to find caydes stash all 5 of them in pale heart

[chrome pivot]

cayde best char change my mind

[thick elbow]

Okayyyyy x.x hunters stasis with the ice picks.is cold asf.
Reminds me of tomb raider $_$

[half grove]

is it even possible to 100% the season pass in 30 days?? i just got the dlc and pass a few days ago

[thick elbow]

Yeah

[river escarp]

anyone has any idea what the new quest mean?

[chrome pivot]

easily

[thick elbow]

I pushed 6.7k hours in forsaken alone.

[chrome pivot]

im at 150 in like a week

[thick elbow]

You can do that in 30 days. That's like. 30 hours

[half grove]

any tips or advice to focus for xp and stuff

[river escarp]

new legend title?

[steel lily]

weekly challenges

[urban compass]

seasonal challenges/bonuses

[steel lily]

they give you so much xp

[wanton halo]

On one hand, bungie seems to be cooking
On the other hand, they didn't mention new dlc prices just that they exist

[steel lily]

most of the time i wasnt even trying to get them done and i got 80% of them completed

[blissful scaffold]

@chrome pivotu want nolstagia new ?

[half grove]

so i just gotta grind all those weekly seasonal challenges and im pretty chillin?

[steel lily]

yup

[blissful scaffold]

69.69 is the new price

[chrome pivot]

jues try to do seasonal stuff and go to season quests for the most xp thats what i did, and by no means am i good whatsoever