💬destiny-chat

[tired hill]

Sometimes.

[tough sable]

This game is ass

https://tenor.com/view/tense-table-smash-mad-gif-13656077

[wanton halo]

Believe it or not, the election has concluded

We have our winner folks

[wooden cosmos]

ain't no one cares

[twilit pewter]

yippee

[wooden cosmos]

america is cooked either way

[next stag]

Yo does anyone know if lucky pants works with rocket sidearms

[tough sable]

then who

[wanton halo]

No they aren’t hand cannons

[light arrow]

Hunters HAVE a sidearm exotic

[jagged sage]

Its not a hand cannon

[tired hill]

I'm a hand cannon.

[elfin panther]

Blocked

[shadow jackal]

guys, skibidi toilet is kinda cooking @main estuary @bold spoke and @wanton halo will vouch

[distant cradle]

what is the exotic that gives you that big blue shield around you ?

[quasi berry]

https://tenor.com/view/skibidi-toilet-gif-263331367497102609

[bold spoke]

mini shield potion

[main estuary]

its actually kinda gas

[shadow jackal]

haiii

marry me

[ruby grove]

Heir apparent

Meowstiny

[brazen fern]

green green whats your problem green me say alone ramp

[uncut swift]

Who do yall think carried in damage me or zeott?

800k or 9 mill 💀

[quasi berry]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/944598345610043472/1165036101866618941/83aje0.gif

[coral walrus]

A lot of damag

What was that?

[coral walrus]

CAT

[coral walrus]

Can you still get it?

[quasi berry]

@gusty charm

[meager flower]

How did yall wipe even with you doing that much

[uncut swift]

I dont want to be rude or anything, but some people were SELLING.

[wanton halo]

selling what

[uncut swift]

Burgers

[fleet sinew]

legit how did that person have 800k after 3 phases

[quasi berry]

toxicity is healthy

[fleet sinew]

were they shooting at the floor

[brazen fern]

this should be illegal

[uncut swift]

Guess what they were using

[brazen fern]

how do you manage to do 800k after 3 phases

[fleet sinew]

a blue hand cannon?

please don't say still hunt

[uncut swift]

The call, Graviton lance, and 21% Dellerium

[brazen fern]

💀💀💀💀

[fleet sinew]

LMAO

[brazen fern]

i would report for sabotage

[uncut swift]

We were stuck there

[quasi berry]

report for griefing

[uncut swift]

For 4 hours.

[quasi berry]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-minions-popcorn-day-laugh-gif-5026739

[fleet sinew]

optimal loadout, you would've cleared in 4 seconds if everyone else ran that

[brazen fern]

i would have just told them "have fun" and left

[uncut swift]

I did not want to leave

I wanted my full clear.

[brazen fern]

im not putting up with trashcans like that

[quasi berry]

https://tenor.com/view/minion-laugh-gif-26377474

[uncut swift]

😂

I also didnt want to ditch my clan lol

[fleet sinew]

tbf could be worse

[quasi berry]

dict the 800k player

[fleet sinew]

when i helped my clan do ron contest someone on starfire hit less damage than the person on tractor

[brazen fern]

...

[uncut swift]

That 800k player replaced out actual good player

[brazen fern]

did you tell him to quit the game

[uncut swift]

No

[quasi berry]

https://tenor.com/view/black-minion-gif-3647683297012940351

[brazen fern]

damn

[wooden cosmos]

you should

[devout spoke]

Let’s go man I finally got cloud strike

[uncut swift]

I was trying my hardest to be nice

[fleet sinew]

i prob should tbh

[quasi berry]

tell him he should quit his destiny career

[brazen fern]

i would have lost it if i were you

[uncut swift]

I was trying my best to be nice 😭😭

[quasi berry]

#💬destiny-chat message

[brazen fern]

im not putting up with someone using 21% delirium for dps

[uncut swift]

Yeahhh..

[devout spoke]

It could be worse

[brazen fern]

meh

[uncut swift]

I honestly shoulda left.

[brazen fern]

i have seen some funny panth lfgs

where people are using solo izanagi

[quasi berry]

man I wish I was around pantheon

[uncut swift]

The guy left and got someone from here and we got it done on our 2nd try

[fading falcon]

:3

[uncut swift]

Dog butt 800k

[quasi berry]

and you didn't kick?

not cool, should've kicked

[brazen fern]

800k after 3 phases is crazy

[uncut swift]

Nope

[brazen fern]

i cant even comprehend how thats possible

[uncut swift]

They just left because they was tired

[fading falcon]

lol

[uncut swift]

Dude, you do not know how much times they were dying

I think they died 500 times

[brazen fern]

from the beams?

[uncut swift]

YES AND THE JUMPING PART

[brazen fern]

bro...

[uncut swift]

THEY DIDNT KNOW. HOW TO JUMP

[brazen fern]

stop im getting second hand embarrassment

[uncut swift]

LIKE COME ON BRO

[uncut swift]

I’m really sorry :(

[brazen fern]

this is like watching xqc raid

with blue double primary

[uncut swift]

I was insanely close on kicking them

[coral walrus]

that mf played density?

[uncut swift]

Fr?

[brazen fern]

yeah, he did levi once

[wanton halo]

bro jujtsu been milked

[foggy tide]

Does consecration work with peregrine greaves?

[brazen fern]

he played with datto

[coral walrus]

damn hes more elite than me

[wanton halo]

last chaptar was 264 ?

[brazen fern]

worst gameplay you will ever see

[coral walrus]

why live

[uncut swift]

Anyways I’m gonna cry myself to sleep

Night yall lmfao

[brazen fern]

you should watch xqc play witch queen campaign on legendary trio

[coral walrus]

and come back tomorrow for more

[brazen fern]

dude was so lost

[fading falcon]

what the flip theres raid roles now

[coral walrus]

same, took me a while i think

[fading falcon]

im am LOST

[wanton halo]

????

[uncut swift]

I’m going to Costco

[fading falcon]

only 1 tier 3 and its wish 😭

[coral walrus]

WE ARE THE COSTCO GUYS

[uncut swift]

I’m punching that one Costco kid

In the throat

[coral walrus]

OF COURSE WE CARRY 800k DPS PEOPLE THROUGH WITNESS

[wanton halo]

ok bro

[fading falcon]

w/raid completions

[uncut swift]

Lmfao

[fading falcon]

wait

ppl hit 800k on witness? 😭

isnt that like 5 whispershots? 💀

[coral walrus]

i watch too much northernloin. i have never seen the videos nor does my hemisphere have a costco

[uncut swift]

Here

[wanton halo]

boyyyyy

[fleet sinew]

1.5 golden gun shots over 3 phases

[uncut swift]

Look at the 2nd person’s dps

[wanton halo]

gay 800k

[fading falcon]

Lmfaofjsifjsjfjfj

[uncut swift]

Facts

[fading falcon]

no way 💀

[uncut swift]

Yeah.

😔

[wanton halo]

bro why even do se

[fading falcon]

what were they using

idk i havent really tried it

[uncut swift]

The call, graviton lance, and 21% dellerium

[fading falcon]

LMFAOFJSBFB

[uncut swift]

[fading falcon]

the call has vorpal

[uncut swift]

Yep

[fading falcon]

top dps domt diss pls

[wanton halo]

you guys wanna hear somethin funny rick and morty anime

[uncut swift]

It was the most crappiest roll

[fading falcon]

ur better off running thunderlord

[uncut swift]

Fr

I told her to switch to Still hunt

[fading falcon]

avg d2 emjoyer

[uncut swift]

SHE GOT 500k.

[wanton halo]

you really crying about other people dps ?

[silent laurel]

already met 2 cheaters in SE from this discord lol, 1 guy cheated on normal witness, 2nd guy cleared the master cp that i was sharing while i was afk

[fading falcon]

like i remember doing wish

[fading falcon]

yea 🙄🙄

[uncut swift]

I am. I bet you would too if you were stuck on Witness with them for 5 hours

[fading falcon]

idk why ppl canr dps riven like no joke

[uncut swift]

You absolute rock

[wanton halo]

i wouldnt touch SE lil bro

[fading falcon]

they hit like 450k 🙄🙄

[wanton halo]

i was stuck in gos for 11 hours

[uncut swift]

I feel your pain

[fading falcon]

gos is not bad at all

[hasty glacier]

11 hours is mad work

[fading falcon]

gos my love

[uncut swift]

GoS is easy

[wanton halo]

i was a noob anyways lol

[uncut swift]

I have the title :3

[fading falcon]

my fastes gos is uhhh

[wooden cosmos]

that 2nd dude seems based

[fading falcon]

like 27 minsp

[wanton halo]

yeahhh

[fading falcon]

in missing coan nigbt and zero to one hundred

[uncut swift]

What encounter were yall stuck on?

[uncut swift]

That’s tough 😭😭

[fading falcon]

and flawless cuz mybfriend died on jump from 3rf to 4th 😔

[fleet sinew]

the funny limiter challenge

[uncut swift]

Oh..

[wanton halo]

it was like along time ago last boss

[uncut swift]

I see lol

[fading falcon]

isnt even hard to do flawless

[wanton halo]

it was 2nd day of gos

[fading falcon]

the ome i want

[uncut swift]

Are the challenges for Salvations Edge hard?

[fading falcon]

is kingslayer

im so close ro every like dungeon seal

[uncut swift]

That goes unironically hard

[fading falcon]

i only need solo flaw and i am NOT doing solo spire

not duality

[silent laurel]

yeah, lets just hope bungie wont collateral me with the ban, might get mistaken that i was getting boosted by a cheater lol

[fleet sinew]

4th requires a brain, and 5th requires everyone to know the mechanics (or a vpn)

[fading falcon]

id def do gotd.

[uncut swift]

Solo duality is easy

[fleet sinew]

solo spire is fun as well

[tough sable]

https://tenor.com/view/minion-excited-dance-blown-away-gif-638822571302368038

[fading falcon]

i dont like duality

[uncut swift]

Same..

[fading falcon]

nor spire idk why

[fleet sinew]

bosses have a decent amount of health but u get to dps in like 4 seconds for both of them

[summer aspen]

Whats up with people carrying around a different class item for each build? what about just 1 cloak nine different ways

[weary fern]

Where be the glaive hater?

[fading falcon]

best dungeon is ahattered theone 🥰

[uncut swift]

5th wasnt too bad tbh… but verity was INSANE with LFG

[wanton halo]

I love those yellow slaves

[fading falcon]

verity isbt that hard once u lmow it

[uncut swift]

Well ofc

[fleet sinew]

ye the issue is getting lfgs that know it lol

[fading falcon]

abnd cyrys

[tough sable]

https://tenor.com/view/minions-freak-wacko-bee-do-gif-12396093

[uncut swift]

FACTS

[fading falcon]

im missinf warpriesr chall

[uncut swift]

Oof

[fading falcon]

for king alayer so im never gettibg it

[silent laurel]

considering theres already 2 cheaters on witness, those guys are having a field day boosting players on the 5th challenge this week

[devout spoke]

Dude I’m actually just flabbergasted

[fading falcon]

my internet is 📉📉📉

[uncut swift]

I need one more lore book and I have the title for Salvations Edge 😭😭😭 i hate how you cant farm them..

[dry flame]

fellas, sunshot is 3 tapping 10 resil correct?

[fleet sinew]

lmao i wonder if the cheaters that were doing day 1 carries got banned yet

[uncut swift]

Yes

[devout spoke]

Probably

[fading falcon]

who gon get me my vog seal

[wanton halo]

would you guys suggest me a good gacha games ?

[fading falcon]

i need 1 triumph

[fading falcon]

uhh p5x is coming out world wide

[devout spoke]

The newest one all the women who are depicted as being of age are hot asf especially the cop one 🗣

[silent laurel]

lmao yeah, i remember now. that one vid on YT is still there i think. "day one witness is not even hard" title iirc, just blatant cheating

[next stag]

Wait they do? whats it called

[brazen fern]

i hope wrath of the machine never comes back

[fading falcon]

(ravid relic)

[wanton halo]

the bunny one ?

[fading falcon]

as much as i love wrath

[wanton halo]

I tried wuthring waves it was fun tbh

[devout spoke]

Nah the zenless zone zero one or whatever it’s called

Or you could play dragon ball legends

[fading falcon]

i agree tbh i thunk wrath was perfect for its tike and i think in d2 itd be like kf/vog

[brazen fern]

the amount of cope i see about wrath coming back is crazy, it aint happening

[summer aspen]

Whats the best golf ball farm right now? Im running low.

[fading falcon]

kf and vog are just easy

[brazen fern]

scourge is coming back, the real goat

[devout spoke]

Idk how yall use so many golfballs , they’re used in like 1 thing

[fleet sinew]

whisper gaming

[fading falcon]

just leave it in d1 , we need levi and its kairs, crow , sotp back before wrath

@wanton halo have u played perosna 5

[fleet sinew]

if they keep scourge challenges the same that will actually be the shortest day 1 of all time

[wanton halo]

ohhhh

[brazen fern]

wrath aint coming back because its way too much effort

[devout spoke]

Persona 5 is goated fr

[fading falcon]

real

[wanton halo]

noi i heard its really fun tbh

[fading falcon]

personq 5 is mid

[devout spoke]

More of a 4 enjoyer myself

[fading falcon]

p2>>

[wanton halo]

I never played any persona games

[grim glacier]

[fading falcon]

the king game enjoyer

[brazen fern]

they would have to essentially make a completely new fallen faction just for wrath

[devout spoke]

Old head take

[summer aspen]

10 builds for my Hunter, now having to buildcraft for my Titan

[fading falcon]

perosna are really cool tho

[fleet sinew]

p2 final boss goes crazy

[fading falcon]

p5 def really good but p5r is waaaaay better

for p2 is? or ep?

[fleet sinew]

ye 5r is great

[devout spoke]

P2 final boss is hilter ofc it’s goat of the series

[fading falcon]

maya my beloved

[fleet sinew]

is lmao

[summer aspen]

Exotics cost 3 shards to masterwork, why not make it 1?

[fading falcon]

oh cool cool

[fading falcon]

idk ask bungie

[summer aspen]

So whats the best ascendant shard farm?

[devout spoke]

Cause it’s an exotic? It’s supposed to be a big commitment

[fading falcon]

doublrle drop gns

[devout spoke]

Idk I just buy em or play gms if it’s not ball crushingly hard

[fading falcon]

gms are easy ish now

some are a bit hard not to crazy tho

[summer aspen]

They hate their customers, why would they talk to me?

[devout spoke]

I hate this weeks on normal nightfall difficulty I am not touching the gm

[fading falcon]

arebt they active on reddit abd x

[fading falcon]

the gms isbt that bad

[summer aspen]

Liminality is aids

[versed quest]

test

[fading falcon]

id say worst part is thr running part but its not bas

[devout spoke]

Yeah they’re active on the website too, the bungie website I mean

[devout spoke]

It’s pretty bad for non super games

[fading falcon]

who gon get me p3r aigis edition

[summer aspen]

I dont do gms, I just die constantly, im not that guy in D2

[devout spoke]

Too late my grandma already got it for me so you can’t have it

I got the collectors edition metal case for royal today at disc replay for 40 bucks, thing was mint

[summer aspen]

I'll do dungeons and raids, but gms is a no go, unless someone offers to carry me

[devout spoke]

Disc replay lowkey goated

[devout spoke]

Just not this weeks gm

[quasi berry]

https://tenor.com/view/boboyoisgod-zsjl-steppenwolf-its-toxic-thats-good-toxic-gif-20893818

[fading falcon]

new pfp

[devout spoke]

I’ll do any other one but

[fading falcon]

tomboy from p4

[devout spoke]

I fw naoto

[fading falcon]

naoto

[summer aspen]

Im low on prisms too so i cant afford to buy shards

whats a good prism farm?

[devout spoke]

Only character I’ve never romanced cause it feels weird especially during the true ending

[fading falcon]

i love her sm altho imo her SL is introduced too late in the game

[devout spoke]

Not really

It’s like August

[fading falcon]

by the myriad truths

[devout spoke]

Fr

[fading falcon]

she’s rhe last SL

[devout spoke]

Gonna start saying that instead of on god

[fading falcon]

like 70% into the game

[summer aspen]

Thats why I miss the coil, golfballs dropped like crazy

[fading falcon]

on myriad truths

[devout spoke]

Well yeah but she’s not the best written character either, you aren’t missing out on much

[fading falcon]

uhhh prism farms uhhhh

what abt the conversion thing idk

[devout spoke]

Idk crucible is lowkey a core farm tho

[fading falcon]

kanji is so real tho

[devout spoke]

I got like 100 for spending an hour in comp

[fading falcon]

also imo ryuji is best SL in p5

[devout spoke]

Kanji my GOAT

[fading falcon]

he’s so well written

[summer aspen]

you know how in battlegrounds if you deposit enough radiolite you can get exotic armor?

[fading falcon]

ann is mid

yusuke is ok

[devout spoke]

Yeah, I just wait until I have max then dump a ton at the helm

[fading falcon]

uhh makoto idk i like her as a char her story is mid asf

[devout spoke]

I haven’t finished p5 yet

[fading falcon]

dr legs. my beloved 🙏

where u at

[summer aspen]

Why cant golfballs be in the loot pool?

[fading falcon]

are u p5 or p5r?

[summer aspen]

-_-

[fading falcon]

doodist ngl i have no clue 😭

[wanton halo]

New names in chat

[devout spoke]

R and starting Saes castle

[fading falcon]

i talk like once a month ido what ur talking abt

SAES CASTLE THEME IS SOOO GOOD

[summer aspen]

Onslaught can drop Prisms, so I guess thats an option

[devout spoke]

Idk man play over through

[summer aspen]

that drops shards?

[devout spoke]

I think???

[fading falcon]

whims of fate 🗣️

uhh

[devout spoke]

The 50 wave on master does I’m pretty sure

[fading falcon]

p3 is my love tho

[devout spoke]

Could be cappin tho so idk

[summer aspen]

Done alot of overthrow, never saw one drop

[fading falcon]

me when the aigis

[brazen fern]

overthrow doesnt drop shards

[devout spoke]

I think people glaze burn my dread it’s a mid intro song

[fading falcon]

p3p

[summer aspen]

Bungie should let us convert basketballs into golfballs

[fading falcon]

is top w/makoto n kotone

[brazen fern]

no they shouldnt

[summer aspen]

L take

[brazen fern]

alloys and shards serve completely different purposes

[devout spoke]

P3p is funny cause you can be the groomer for once in a persons game

[summer aspen]

😑

[fading falcon]

if u flip it upside down its kotones ver

[brazen fern]

lets not act like shards are hard to get

[devout spoke]

I gotta agree

[summer aspen]

they are

[brazen fern]

they arent

[devout spoke]

Idk not really

[brazen fern]

literally just run gms

[fading falcon]

also alloys are dropped like 1 every like public event

[wanton halo]

I always have 200< shards

[devout spoke]

But the gm is really hard

[summer aspen]

gms are impossible for me

[brazen fern]

you get 2-4 shards per gm on double rewards

[wanton halo]

Was difficult

[brazen fern]

thats a skill issue then, not bungies problem

[devout spoke]

Dang aight 😭

[fading falcon]

are master raids harder than gms?

[wanton halo]

Oh ascendant shards nvm. Thought y’all were talking about Legendary shards lmao

[fading falcon]

no mercy 🙏

[devout spoke]

Depends on the raid and the gm

[summer aspen]

i'll only do a gm if im getting carried

[fading falcon]

dude idk why

[wanton halo]

Personally I never run out of golf balls

[brazen fern]

you cant be complaining about shards being hard to get and then say gms are too hard

[devout spoke]

I’d rather do master runs of most raids than do this weeks gm

[fading falcon]

my gm runs are so odd

i can run a master raud perfectly no dying

[brazen fern]

im maxed as we speak on both alloys and shards

[summer aspen]

I had 22 shards, then buildcrafting happened

[fading falcon]

abd when i do gms i die to like falling off 😭

[brazen fern]

where did you get those shards from?

right, from gms

[fading falcon]

did t he say

the coil

[summer aspen]

Saved up from The Coil

[devout spoke]

Idk I just wait until I know what exotic I want and I have a good roll then do it

[brazen fern]

well the coil aint a thing anymore

[wanton halo]

I can make you regret that in 30 seconds 😂

[brazen fern]

so its time to do gms big dawg

[fading falcon]

gms are so hard dor me cuz like

my brain shuts off

[devout spoke]

Just get rid of old exotic armors I have masterworked and I don’t use anymore

[fading falcon]

i gen dk why

[devout spoke]

Especially old meta stuff like starfire

[fading falcon]

also alpha

[brazen fern]

shards are supposed to be an endgame currency

[summer aspen]

YAS can be scrapped, it'll never be good again

[fading falcon]

frienren is so good 🙏🙏

[devout spoke]

What’s yas

[fading falcon]

i still have my starfire

[devout spoke]

Idk I don’t ever use it

[fading falcon]

yas

[summer aspen]

Ahamkaras Spine

[brazen fern]

real

[deep dune]

Anime isn't real

[devout spoke]

Oh yeah no most Hunter exotics aren’t exactly goated

[fading falcon]

i keep it bc i always ran it just for the memories tbh

i think it coukd get buffed but def not tk the level itw as

[brazen fern]

i have some old black armory stuff in my vault

[fading falcon]

maybe 4%? or like 6%

[summer aspen]

I spent 10 years on one hunter, all time and resources spent on that. Titan just this year

[fading falcon]

idk it was broken tbh

[summer aspen]

So you see my dilemma

[devout spoke]

Not really just get rid of stuff you won’t use

[brazen fern]

learn how to do gms

[deep dune]

Hunters suck

[brazen fern]

they really arent that hard

[devout spoke]

They own pvp rn but aight

[summer aspen]

L take. Dominating pvp

[brazen fern]

pvp lol who cares

[deep dune]

And pvp sucks

[fading falcon]

only bv of abolity spam

[devout spoke]

TRUE 🗣🗣🗣🗣

[fading falcon]

and pvp is so bad rn bc of that 💀

[brazen fern]

pvp will always be bad

[fading falcon]

pvp is fuj when 0 hunters

its hard to balance pvp and pve if they use the same sandbox 🙏

[devout spoke]

Idk iron banner is sometimes

[deep dune]

No

[summer aspen]

Nah, PvP sucks because of GernaderJake and his constant complaining

[deep dune]

It is not

[brazen fern]

pvp sucks because its meant to suck

[blissful scaffold]

@devout spoke what u thinks of trial ?

[fading falcon]

grenedar jale isnt that good tho 💀

[brazen fern]

destiny is not a pvp game

[devout spoke]

Idk I think pvp limits what the pve stuff can do, so hunters and titans are pigeonholed

[fading falcon]

real

[brazen fern]

they can clearly balance pve and pvp seperately

[fading falcon]

altho the reposite is sooooo good

[summer aspen]

Everything he loses to he complains about ended up getting nerfed weeks later

[fading falcon]

and ao fun to use

[brazen fern]

bungie doesnt listen to youtubers

they have literally zero input on bungies balancing decisions

[daring creek]

I have a question. Maybe a dumb one. How does one join a LFG. Do i paste the command ie /join XYZ somewhere?

[summer aspen]

Hes a huge twitch streamer too, was Bungies poster boy for a while

[brazen fern]

that doesnt mean anything

[fading falcon]

akshually ☝️🤓 salt asked for the well and div nerf ☝️☝️

[brazen fern]

he has no influence on bungies balancing

[deep dune]

Bungie just hates us all

[fading falcon]

yea in game chat

[devout spoke]

I think it’s unfun and super unwelcoming to anyone who isn’t a control player using last word or a pc player 2-3 tapping everyone with red death or dmt

[daring creek]

not in discord but in game?

[fading falcon]

yea

[brazen fern]

the amount of people thinking thats actually true is alarming

[daring creek]

oh wow

[fading falcon]

are u om console or pc?

[daring creek]

pc

[blissful scaffold]

Ah.

[devout spoke]

Yeah but you can’t have any crazy cooky exotics cause they have to think about how they’ll work in pvp

[fading falcon]

i mean he did have point with div

it was way to op and its still used now??

[brazen fern]

but salt isnt the reason bungie nerfed div

nor well

[fading falcon]

oh i know

[summer aspen]

Jake got a lot of stuff nerfed because of his fragile ego

[brazen fern]

thats simply not true

[fading falcon]

i actuallt agreed with salt

[summer aspen]

Antaeus Ward, Thundercrash, Magnetic Grenade

[deep dune]

But we must hate Saltagreppo

[fading falcon]

div was too easy to proc and 30% + all crits was insane

[deep dune]

He is evil and cringe

[fading falcon]

he’s funny

[silent laurel]

dont forget he is also using sticks on pvp on a pc

[brazen fern]

controller is such an L

[fading falcon]

also well was strong

[brazen fern]

well was the best super in the game for years

[fading falcon]

i think the well nerf was needed but not to what ut is jow

[devout spoke]

It has a place for defining the meta in pvp but it sucks to play if you aren’t in the meta, I’m sure it’s awesome for hunters, but as a warlock (who isn’t cracked outta his mind at pvp) trials is horrible

[summer aspen]

And crutches LW and a Sniper, he has zero right to complain about anything

[fading falcon]

real

[brazen fern]

it was going to get nerfed at some point

[fading falcon]

yea isbt it 10% dmg reduction?

[devout spoke]

I just want a damage super for stasis on warlock

[wind marten]

Wus LW?

[fading falcon]

from 30%

[summer aspen]

Last Word

[brazen fern]

well is still good but not the invincibility field it used to be

[deep dune]

Last Wish

[fading falcon]

last word

[brazen fern]

which is fair

[wind marten]

Oh that revolver

[fading falcon]

well is viable altho song is way better

the dmg resist is INSANE

also fun super

[brazen fern]

song is 90% dr

[wind marten]

Yea its about there i swapped to song on any adclear

[brazen fern]

its really really good

[devout spoke]

Idk I think winters wrath is still insane in pvp

[brazen fern]

hope they dont nerf it

[fading falcon]

yea

[wind marten]

Dps still well if not mobile

[brazen fern]

they probably wont

[wanton halo]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cat-meme-meme-meme-cat-gif-14470917232397934693

[fading falcon]

i mean they just need to buff supers

like soectral blades 💀

[devout spoke]

They need to fix arc on warlock

[wanton halo]

Well is useless this season

[summer aspen]

The way Destiny 2 exists as a game, from its design to the gameplay, is impossible to make a fair and balanced PvP enviornment

[wind marten]

Do yall think well nerf was uncalled for

[fading falcon]

not used in pve nor pvp

[silent laurel]

bungie doesnt know how to nerf in small increments, well is busted yes, but they couldve trimmed it down little by little, same what they did on anarchy

[devout spoke]

In pvp maybe

[fading falcon]

chaos reach

[devout spoke]

It’s dog

[fading falcon]

dude well needed a nerf but they def killed og well

[wanton halo]

In PVE as well, only case it’s not useless in pve is on master Crota boss. Anywhere else it’s useless

[devout spoke]

Even with geomags is bad damage in comparison to other damage supers

[quartz storm]

what is the easiest dungeonto farm for artifice?

[wind marten]

Stormtrance super sucks anywhere tbf

[fading falcon]

imo solo yhetes jist no reason to run it

[summer aspen]

Because Bungie is incompetent and lazy

[devout spoke]

Probably warlords ruin

[devout spoke]

Fr worst super in the game

[fading falcon]

yea storms mid asf 😭

[wanton halo]

All you need is to be on prismatic solar super and have the fragment that gives restoration when picking orb and artifact mod that gives radiant when picking orb . These two are just like well

[fading falcon]

hammers is mid

did purogale get nerfed

[devout spoke]

Hammers is getting a big buff

[wind marten]

Warlords 1st enc is artifice hotspot fr, its not probably

[fading falcon]

when????

[devout spoke]

This season

[fading falcon]

oh

[devout spoke]

It’s like a 30 percent damage buff to bosses and mini bosses, same with twilight

[fading falcon]

imp stasissucks

omfg

[silent laurel]

what they couldve did on the well, nerf the dmg resist from 30% to maybe 15%. theyre right to reduce the healing tick rate, but they couldve added back the overshield atleast

[wind marten]

Needs more supers and shatter is not enticing enough

[summer aspen]

Its just impossible to have a fair and balanced pvp bubble in Destiny, its just how the game exists due to design

[wanton halo]

What’s getting buffed?

[fading falcon]

real

[fading falcon]

hammers apparently

[devout spoke]

Stasis got some love, new artifacts and all the nades are shared

[fading falcon]

i didnt know

[devout spoke]

And twilight arsenal

[fading falcon]

stasis didbt get enough love 😭

[wanton halo]

Bonk hammer supremacy again ?

[fading falcon]

i loved stasis so much

osmeo and cold snap

[wind marten]

If the stasis has heal on crystal and has a universal crystal system for freezes, kills and shatter i'll take it

[fading falcon]

batkle harmony and agers

[devout spoke]

Only thing keeping stasis out of being the best warlock subclass I the super

[silent laurel]

my man, artifacts buffing subclass should not be the norm, most of this artifacts shouldve been on the base subclass kit imo

[summer aspen]

The best way to improve PvP is disable supers and ability regen, make it to where you have to rely on gunplay after you've used your abilities

[devout spoke]

I take what I can get

[fading falcon]

itsstill goodjist nit as good as others

[fading falcon]

check mate mode

[summer aspen]

Maybe get your grenade back when you pick up heavy

[fading falcon]

based xeryla

[devout spoke]

Idk man wrathweavers is a good exotic and good buff to stasis overall

Should just take the exotic and give it to the subclass outright

[fading falcon]

titan stais is bad tho

[wind marten]

Isnt that the warlock gloves

[devout spoke]

Oh so bad

[devout spoke]

Yeah

[fading falcon]

real

hunter is fun but not strong enought to run in endgame

[devout spoke]

Makes the super heal and deal more damage

What it should in the first place

[fading falcon]

uhhhhhhh

actually huhter has some uses in endgame

[wind marten]

Doesnt the wrathweaver gives a damage boost that doesnt stack with other damage boosts let alone radiant?

[fading falcon]

well tbey all do but prism has it too so

[summer aspen]

Make Trials where all abilities are disabled, no special or heavy ammo, no exotics. Its the hardest pvp mode, rely on your weapon only

[devout spoke]

Not sure but idk

[timid spoke]

Trials be depressing

[fading falcon]

oh my god man

winters guile

[devout spoke]

Idk about no exotics at ALL

[fading falcon]

does it even work mmm

maybe skrims rules

only movement/neutral game exotics

[wind marten]

Antaeus ward titan shotgun

[devout spoke]

But I think disabling all subclass thins except jumps and class abilities is a move

[summer aspen]

Exotics make or break builds

[timid spoke]

I just wish not so many people leave mid trials match

[devout spoke]

I don’t get it either

[fading falcon]

trials osn tthat bad

[devout spoke]

It is

[fading falcon]

who wants a carry 🗣️🗣️

[summer aspen]

Exactly, no wormhusk crown invis bs, no swarm grenade strand clone bs

[fading falcon]

(to a flawed passage)

[timid spoke]

I've lost around 6+ cards in the past 2 days from leavers :(

[fading falcon]

LOOOL

[devout spoke]

For most people who play trials it’s the worst

[fading falcon]

i wom w few hames

[dense belfry]

anyone got any good suggestions for kinetic slot special weps for ad clear

[devout spoke]

It should be challenging but not downright unfun

[fading falcon]

havent really played

[timid spoke]

They always leave after the first round ;-; I dont get it

[devout spoke]

Most nades

[fading falcon]

my kd for this week is like 1.3

[summer aspen]

Everything but jump disabled, you get to bring only the weapons you have equipped

[devout spoke]

the call

[dense belfry]

idrk what nade launchers are good

[wind marten]

Just kinetic or stasis/strand?

[dense belfry]

any, just primary/kinetic slot

[silent laurel]

i never get those lol, but most of the time i have the dogsht chinese duo on my team, then enemy has the sweaty duo chinese

[devout spoke]

Primary too?

[fading falcon]

ib GL

[dense belfry]

special

[wooden cosmos]

the call

[devout spoke]

Ok then the call

[fading falcon]

xerlyla

trials? 🙏

[wind marten]

Conditional finality

[devout spoke]

Most used gun in the game for a reason

[wind marten]

For the bigger ones

[dense belfry]

im running the call rn but its alr, doesnt seen the best idk

[timid spoke]

I just get leavers like every 2 games. Just now on my final game for flawless both people left after we went 3-0

[fading falcon]

we will strive 🗣️

[summer aspen]

How to fix Trials, no super, no grenade, no melee, no special or heavy ammo, only two weapons can be brought with you

[devout spoke]

What’s ur roll

[wind marten]

Call has good ammo economy, trade in for abit of damage

[devout spoke]

Defeats the purpose of it tho

[dense belfry]

prob dogshit but i run beacon rounds and one for all

[fading falcon]

@devout spoke trials when

[wooden cosmos]

why is it not crafted

[silent laurel]

i might as well stop playing pvp and go to call of duty then

[devout spoke]

In like 7 hours

[dense belfry]

its crafted i just didnt know what to put on it

[fading falcon]

😔

[devout spoke]

No pvp shouldn’t have ever been in destiny to begin with

[summer aspen]

It makes it feel like an actual trial, where its just run what you brung

[devout spoke]

The purpose is to see who has the most mastery of the tools at their respective guardian types disposal

You can’t remove all of that and then say boom done fixed

Wouldn’t make a lick of sense lore wise either

[weary karma]

god just let us buy glimmer from enhancement cores so we can FARM

[wooden cosmos]

Well not those perks

[summer aspen]

Just remove Trials all together

[devout spoke]

Remove pvp

[fading falcon]

i want an eyasluja

[devout spoke]

Ruins the game as a whole

[wind marten]

Remove trials put pantheon back

[blissful scaffold]

Remove PvP

[timid spoke]

Keep pvp, pve gets boring after a while. Variety is king

[devout spoke]

Balance isn’t an issue if you don’t have people fighting each other

[fading falcon]

remove gos

[devout spoke]

Wouldn’t need it if you could make as wild and crazy of pve exotics and guns as you wanted

[wind marten]

Then we have no div if bungie is merciless enough

[fading falcon]

remove titans actually

[dense belfry]

appreciate the help

[summer aspen]

Destiny cant have a balanced pvp bubble, its mathematically impossible due to just how the game was designed

[devout spoke]

Exactly so why implement it

[wild lodge]

To focus weapons for onslaught dont you go to zavala in the tower?

[fading falcon]

i joke i love gos

[summer aspen]

Who knows

[wind marten]

Oh

[fading falcon]

yes

[devout spoke]

Gos is doo doo bro what 😭

[timid spoke]

Leave the crayon munchers out of this

[fading falcon]

altho u could get it from the monument

i hate titand with a passion

[wind marten]

Gos is ok, but i do admit flawless can be bs sometimes

[fading falcon]

ur not a real gosse ig

[summer aspen]

If they removed PvP, imagine how much vaulted content we could get back. Red War and Forsaken could come back

[fading falcon]

gosser

[devout spoke]

I think pvp should be a thing for guardian games only

But that’s it

[wind marten]

Dawn weapons, the full shebang, no curse of osiris

[devout spoke]

Exactly

[timid spoke]

Why would they need to remove pvp to bring back vaulted content

[vocal marten]

Glad devs don’t listen to you guys saying this dumb sht

[fading falcon]

on god

[wanton halo]

[devout spoke]

Pvp sucks for the average player big dog

[fading falcon]

altho they shoukd removed some modes

[dense belfry]

they dont

[summer aspen]

Data space

[devout spoke]

Make pvp mayhem only 🗣🗣

[fading falcon]

like removed survivak ad bring back supremacy

[devout spoke]

That’s how you fix it

[silent laurel]

make trial better?long ability cd so people will use it wisely. trim down the dmg/effect/aoe of each abilities for pvp sandbox. icarus dash nerf to 10secs. bring back freelance, pc players only mnk.

[fading falcon]

supremacy is so much fun

[devout spoke]

Imagine comp mayhem 😭

[fading falcon]

freelance was rlly good

[timid spoke]

As an average player I got 0 issue with pvp rn...hunters are just annoying but that's how they always are

[summer aspen]

The players are smarter than the devs, thats a garuntee

[dense belfry]

🙏

[wind marten]

Do ppl actl have a huge advantage with controller on pc?

[devout spoke]

No?

[summer aspen]

yes

[devout spoke]

Damn fr?

[wind marten]

Its the aim assist rite?

[devout spoke]

Always feel like I have way more aim assist on the Xbox than I do the pc

[silent laurel]

not the aim assist, the magnetism

[fading falcon]

comtroller has more aim assist and megnetism

[wind marten]

Ah ic

[fading falcon]

but you def trade of the movement

[summer aspen]

Im on Xbox with controller, and i doo doo on m&k players, because they lack dexterity

[fading falcon]

its ahrder to move on the stciks than on mnk

[pine sedge]

chat should i play bard, machinist or dancer

[wind marten]

Bard

[elfin panther]

Blocked

[versed quest]

test

[silent laurel]

doesnt matter when you sit on a lane, aim, when enemy slides out of corner your reticle already follows them lol

[summer aspen]

Crimson on M&K: crap
Crimson on controller: aimbot

[fading falcon]

ffxiv

?

[pine sedge]

that's not one of the classes i said

yes

[fading falcon]

bard is fun

if u get a macro

u can play tunes

[devout spoke]

I tried out last word tonight and I don’t get how people are so godly with it, I’m on controller and I can’t get used to it

[silent laurel]

also the freaking sim users on console should be banned

[deep karma]

how to get seasonal stuff on other characters? when i change to my warlock that part in the helm isnt there

[fading falcon]

do the quest

seasonal quest

[deep karma]

where to get it?

[fading falcon]

uhhhhhh

[summer aspen]

Last Word is not that good anymore. I'm a Crimson main, never lost a 1v1 to LW

[deep karma]

is it the final shape quest?

[silent laurel]

you aim at chest, you hold fire, the magnetism on last word + controller will magically do headshots even hipfiring on chest/shoulders

[fading falcon]

idk actually i think you do the first mission for the season

no its echoes i thick

echoes act 1

[deep karma]

yeah im just not sure where to start the first mission on a diff character

[wind marten]

No u just clear first story quest, then do seasonal. Unless you dont have the seasonal pass

[summer aspen]

Think about it, the whole plot of Destiny is Guardians teaming up to destroy the enemy. Why are we fighting each other?

[silent laurel]

lore wise, theres rogue guardians out there

[timid spoke]

^

[fading falcon]

idk oleorher

sorry

[summer aspen]

Dredgen Yor vs The Last Word guy yes

[devout spoke]

Yeah but in lore we’re THE guardian, there aren’t really a ton of us in the actual story

[fleet sinew]

bungie need to give us the OG thorn so we can perma kill other guardians in pvp

[devout spoke]

Word

[fading falcon]

word

[jagged sage]

wouldnt be the first time lightbearers fought against other lightbearers

[devout spoke]

If you kill them it auto uninstall their game

[fading falcon]

only titans tho

[silent laurel]

or let us crush enemy ghost in trials

[devout spoke]

YES

[deep karma]

where to get first story quest? i thought it starts automatically but it hasnt

[jagged sage]

the warlords and iron lords

[timid spoke]

;-;

[fleet sinew]

lmao real

[fading falcon]

isnt that right bwfire the iron lords

[deep karma]

unless i have to do the final shape quest on here

[devout spoke]

oh my god I’m gonna kiss you ryk

[fading falcon]

yeaaa cool lore

[summer aspen]

that gun was such a cancer in D1, the slummers crutched it so hard

[wind marten]

Pale heart map

[fleet sinew]

also crucible is an established thing in lore, p sure ikora is known for blink shotgunning lmao

[devout spoke]

Thorn still blows to fight today

[deep karma]

alr ty

[vocal marten]

Training and exercise?

Sanctioned sport?

[fading falcon]

😚

[summer aspen]

The darkness, the vex, fallen, cabal etc

[wanton halo]

Get that gay bromance outta here

[devout spoke]

Practice most likely

[summer aspen]

protect humanity

[devout spoke]

Ok mr 7 inches of shaxx

We’re definitely the gays and not you

[summer aspen]

Can we kill off Osiris already, hes becoming annoying

[fading falcon]

my fiend says

oh god

we should kill

[devout spoke]

Why bro is just concerned for his partner

God forbid he cares 😭😭

[wanton halo]

God is my name gay?

[fading falcon]

real 🙄

[summer aspen]

Saint-14, giga chad, russian exo

[fading falcon]

isnt that the helmet thing

from onslaught 💀

we shoukd kill xur

[summer aspen]

Osiris, mister black rain cloud, always doom and gloom

[wanton halo]

Aztecross onslaught video ?

[fading falcon]

but like old xur

[fading falcon]

idk maybe

[wanton halo]

Yes it is

[summer aspen]

Xur is immortal, we dont even k now what he is

[devout spoke]

Guys grenaderjake drama vid on my yt recommenced

[fading falcon]

xurs

a hoe fr

[devout spoke]

He’s the goat and the agent of the 9

[summer aspen]

ooo, link?

[wanton halo]

“First two teams to clear legend 50 wave onslaught will get 7 inches of Shaxx”

[devout spoke]

By the 9 guardian the starhorse is tweakin

[fading falcon]

what if we kill failsafe

[weary fern]

Fake Taniks is dead.

[summer aspen]

I like 7.5 inches better

[fading falcon]

#trials-iron-banner

[devout spoke]

Boooo

[fading falcon]

im do close to ascendant

[summer aspen]

Wheres the jake drama?

[devout spoke]

Sent damn

[weary fern]

Nah. We gettin Failsafe that Exo body so she can experience 🤪 funny stuff.

[devout spoke]

Greedy gremlin

[fading falcon]

chat will i get the emblem or will i not xare

[vocal marten]

He’s Jovian. You are really the most dumb Destiny player.

[fading falcon]

on god

[wind marten]

Wdym its so she can fish

[devout spoke]

I’m doing things to failsafe, but only the passive aggressive one

[fading falcon]

sur eidussy

[summer aspen]

Hes sentient dark matter actually, read the lore stupid

self own

[fading falcon]

its me wxtually

xur’s rhe one piece

i just scared my gf

[summer aspen]

I do worry that Failsafe could suddenly go Skynet on us

[fading falcon]

she was alseep and i pulled her feet

ik so funny ans quirky chay

[summer aspen]

if that happens kiss Nessus goodbye

[vocal marten]

Man you really are an intelligent one

[fading falcon]

woukd you guys

[devout spoke]

Oh my god it’s xur who cares 😭😭😭

[fading falcon]

say my way of bringing badk ice breaker

woukd be ok

like kind of the pvp special meter

[summer aspen]

smarter than you, now go away

[fading falcon]

get kills and dps for ammo

and make it have incandescent or smth precision instrument bu instead of like crits doing more dmg

[summer aspen]

What if Failsafe finds a way to takeover the Warmind

[fading falcon]

the more ammo you have rhe more dps you do

[fading falcon]

warmind is dead btw

[vocal marten]

I’ve been here 10 minutes and in that time you said “we don’t know what Xur is” (we 100% do) and asked why crucible is even a thing canonically

You have the brainrot buddy

[fading falcon]

with having 6 bullets having max staxks of dps

[summer aspen]

Ana just booted down Rasputin I thought

[fading falcon]

isnt pvp bc shaxx wanted to train ppl

[devout spoke]

Idk most women except Hawthorne and ikora are bad asl in destiny

[fading falcon]

what’d u guys think of my icebreaker reworrk

[devout spoke]

What’s that

[fading falcon]

tess everis

[summer aspen]

And you have zero social skills and zero conversational etiquette

[fading falcon]

d1 sniper

[devout spoke]

Idk just give us a staid exotic heavy that actually does something

Salvations grip is all we got and it’s not the best

[fading falcon]

that had no ammo

[devout spoke]

Technically it is since it’s the only one

[fading falcon]

isnt winter ite stasis

[devout spoke]

That doesn’t count

It’s a glaive

[summer aspen]

Winterbite isnt all that either 😑

[vocal marten]

Bro you didn’t play Destiny at all did you?!

[thorn tulip]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[pine sedge]

could autumn leaves be a substitute for gold in the coming months? lead economists say: no wtf why

[fading falcon]

not sayin shir again

[summer aspen]

Ive been here since Day 1 of D1

[vocal marten]

Then pay attention at least some of the time dude

[fading falcon]

we’re explaing lore to @summer aspen

tbh

i was like 2 when d1 cane out

so i was lost in the sauce

[summer aspen]

Took a long break from Forsaken to Lightfall

[fading falcon]

epswcually cuz vanilla d1 was so wierd

[thorn tulip]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[fading falcon]

imagine q 12 year old tryjna understand “i dont have time to explain why i dont have time”

[summer aspen]

Very subpar storytelling indeed

[vocal marten]

Yo same

[fading falcon]

i was 11 🙏💀

[vocal marten]

No

2013 I was 18

[fading falcon]

bros old

[vocal marten]

Fr

[wanton halo]

Started playing destiny last year. Bad life decision

[fading falcon]

ur almost 30

[wanton halo]

anyone here ?

[fading falcon]

get a job

at bungie

[vocal marten]

Average discordian

[summer aspen]

It took how long for us to find out what the black garden was

[wanton halo]

i dont want to work at bungie

[fading falcon]

and give me an exlicuce exotuc

like fate of all fools from d1 🙏

thnx

[wanton halo]

sut it

[vocal marten]

Me either, my job is too easy and pays too good lmao

[fading falcon]

the black garden

[wanton halo]

shut it

[wanton halo]

right

[fading falcon]

is. agarden who’s black

[summer aspen]

Probably akin to the gulags

[fading falcon]

i just eat quesadillas all day

i sell food all day

[summer aspen]

Its a failed attempt to clone The Veil

[fading falcon]

the veil

is cool

has a cool design

[summer aspen]

Where is the veil again? Neomuna right

[vocal marten]

Hahahaha

[fading falcon]

no

its on torabathil

os that how its spelled

[wanton halo]

Witness’s asscrack

[fading falcon]

(joke)

yea neomuna

honestly no joke

i arill dont undterstant rhe LF stiry

i was like what the flip is this this

[fading falcon]

they literally pulled the veil from its asscraxk tbh

[summer aspen]

If you think about it, The cloudark is a crime against humanity

[wanton halo]

Lightfall was gay through and through

[fading falcon]

like us bbg

[summer aspen]

based

[fading falcon]

😍

oh my god mt clash of clans town is beibg rauded

[summer aspen]

The people of Neomuna had no say in being uploaded to the ark, they didnt get to vote on it or anything

[fading falcon]

i lost 25 trophies

[summer aspen]

womp womp

[wanton halo]

Have you been to neomuna lately ? It’s completely empty like even the moon or throne world have much more activity

[fading falcon]

i mean

is there anything to do in neomuna

[winged pine]

Anybod wanna play some casual destiny? I'm just trying to level up, but I like to play crucible and nightfalls

[vocal marten]

They did.

[paper rampart]

I want to craft a pro memoria with reconstruction but I dunno if I should chose target lock or bait and switch

[summer aspen]

Then they screwed themselves

[vocal marten]

They did it for safety.

I mean this genuinely, I wouldn’t think too hard about the lore of Destiny if you don’t really understand it.

I think you should revisit a lot of the lore entries and refresh yourself.

[summer aspen]

What they were brainwashed to believe was safety i bet

[summer aspen]

I plan to

[vocal marten]

Their bodies are safe in cryp sleep from when the black fleet arrived. They could not possibly have hoped to survive any other way.

[wooden cosmos]

The only lore worth reading is the shaxx dodgeball

[summer aspen]

Now that the witness is gone, can they be set free?

[vocal marten]

No crime against humanity there. A society voting to protect themselves.

[vocal marten]

Theoretically yes.

[brazen fern]

the witness forced all members of the species to assimilate

whether they wanted to or not

[vocal marten]

This is a new conversation but I’m down

[sick saddle]

Is there a raid lfg channel for salvations edge?

[vocal marten]

Probably not

[brazen fern]

its pretty obvious that not all billion individuals subscribe to the same school of thought regarding the witness and the final shape etc

[vocal marten]

#salvation’s-edge

[sick saddle]

ty

[lunar plume]

that's for the story mission

[lilac wraith]

this is some L rizz

[brazen fern]

can we get the panth lfg channel back

[vocal marten]

My fault

[lunar plume]

W rizz

[wanton halo]

I can’t wait to sever your cervical spine

[fluid quiver]

will there be any downtime today? (ignore cuz im dumb)

[sick saddle]

Panth lfg giving me nam flashbacks

[vocal marten]

What the fu…

[lilac wraith]

lowercase t effect

[vocal marten]

woahmangoddamn

[brazen fern]

yeah my dad told me there will be maintenance

[fluid quiver]

mb im acoustic

[brazen fern]

takes courage to admit that

[wanton halo]

SE needs to be vaulted

[vocal marten]

The cowardly dog

[wanton halo]

bring back cos I will play cos over SE anyday

[brazen fern]

wanna know what i do when i feel bad about myself on d2

[fading falcon]

watch a byf vid idk

[brazen fern]

i just open r/dtg

[fading falcon]

anyways im eepy

good ighr pookie gen chay

[wanton halo]

?????

[vocal marten]

Bro legit did not hold on to ANYTHING from the game AT ALL

[paper rampart]

I want to craft a pro memoria with reconstruction but I dunno if I should chose target lock or bait and switch

[vocal marten]

Bns

[fleet sinew]

so true

SE transitions take more time than a full run of cos

also cos does the 'be in a pair' thing better imo

[wanton halo]

Wdym SE transitions are fast

[blissful scaffold]

And progressive

[wanton halo]

57 seconds 0-1 transition

[blissful scaffold]

At low cost and drawback

[fleet sinew]

if u do them optimally sure

u can't pull to some encounters tho, so bad for lfg