#💬destiny-chat
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You're right. I don't believe you
Did they remove adept draw time for adept bows ? Got the adept SE bow last night with adept draw time as masterwork but the adept draw time mod wasn’t available
have you dropped it
Yes I have the mod on my adept pre astynax
im actually not joking
idk then
it has 300k more total than whisper lol
so it must be good
gotd first is so good i love it omg
The caveat being you'll probably never get that damage off in a single phase right?
This is why I only fw goats
fr fr
doesnt retrofit have like 10m total
if only gotd transitions werent longer than a 12h flight to new york and back
yeah 11.4 mil
with barely okay dps too
is that pre tfs or post tfs though
140k
If only the final boss of GOTD didn't take swing dancing lessons if I don't dig out my arbalest
definitely meta, ive used it earlier and got kicked because i outdamaged the sweaty rotation shoot to loot hunters
oh its 11.4m with lumina and support frame buff
im not sure if aegis updated everything
if its in sustained tab it is
at least afaik
then its updated
just make deterministic spawn the octavia abilities or somethin
actually a good idea
imagine catalyst is just mallet
can we substitute simmumah for luzaku
lol that would be really cool
most broken weapon ever
The Eustass Bagge catalyst? ok.
saw someone begging for a rework to make octavia active like bro
bruhhh
you picked the most campy fcking frame ever and want to make them active
Make deterministic chaos ramp up speed
tlord copy
just make every lmg tlord duh
Just give it actual good reserves
reserves arent the issue though
I feel punished for using a LMG
It's the only way to make exotic lmgs good
it clearly does good total dmg
Cata for still hunt is it gets nighthawk by default
It's AN issue.
octavia is so broken, ive used that on solo 60eyes steelpath boss without the boss touching me lol
clearly not when total dmg is higher than whisper
that would mean whisper has reserve issues
which it clearly doesnt
the caty in api has fttc never forget
ok ok hear me out, precision instrument catalyst for still hunt, that works with golden gun shots
Idk how total damage makes me like a 50 round LMG.
imagine 12m total lmg
for deterministic?
yeah
Oh that's actually cool
thats pretty cool
they made a caty for deterministic then never released it
new meta on oryx
no thats kinda bad bruh
dont think it (the caty) has a chance of being added though
theyve done that on thorn, its already on the api since shadowkeep iirc, but only the + range stat is visible
I want xeno to have recon sk bad
it didnt get updated when tfs came out
guys how to farm spoils
6 hunter witness 1 phase
play se
By farming spoils
wa da fak
farm witness
Why do you wanna farm spoils
if u farm spoils u get a lot of spoils
smg ripppp
albeit its like 5 spoils per witness clear
also weekly vow chest gives free 3 spoils per char
well if u one phase its like a 3-4min encounter
shadowkeep was such a weird time for catalysts
what happened to templar farm dawg
well now with the still hunt nerf people gonna 3 phase bruh
div nor xeno have placeholder catalysts in api
their crutch is gone
lol
Can't you just clear a raid boss that isn't featured on a character that has finished the encounter that week and get 5 spoils?
still hunts catalyst should be a dismantle when popping goldie
My favorite pass time is going to the forums watching salty hunter mains complain that still hunt is dead, and that it wasn't that strong
lol no, dmg gone per goldy + nighthawk shot is like 120k. (outside sniper meditation) people been 1 phasing easily witness before the sniper meditation came out
snipers meditation was never supposed to affect still hunts shots
I was legit told Ceno Microchosm warlock was more imbalanced than Celestial Still Hunt. Are Hunters real?
💀 💀 💀 💀 💀
still think them saying "fixed" is being dishonest
No we are not
i do too, but who knows
this game is a pile of spaghetti code
True, Crota’s end RoN KF and Vow provided you clear them once and they are not weakly featured raid
most broken artifact mod ever releases, dev team specifically mentions them wanting it to buff still hunt
then out of nowhere "oh sorry guys that wasn't supposed to happen"
yeah thats witness
yeah i still think, they made it really like that, turns out it was so busted, called a heavy nerf + say its not meant to work with the mod kind of bs
I thought so, I remember killing oryx like 10 times in one night and getting spoils every clear
they really want to push whisper dps with that meditation mod, (lowkey saying it on twab)
They shot themselves in the foot so hard by making Still Hunt work with Celestial. Had they avoided that, Still Hunt would have been respectable but not the meta defining option it became (at least not as fast as it did)
get me on the balance team atp bruh
its fun that it works with it
at this point this is the only way this gun will be properly fixed
the gun is power creep personified
Make it function as 6 shot goldy instead of marksman 💀
It's not enough that your DPS skyrockets by reducing the time to use Cayde's Retribution by 2 shots. It also had to do a bajillion damage.
still hunt on nighthawk is really good and they respected what players wanted (players want what the warlock have, necro+sorrow weapons interaction) and bungie said back then other classes will get that too

they just overtuned it
putting an entire super on cooldown on a SPECIAL weapon is a huge design mistake
Do titans have any cool weapon armor combos like this
no
hazardous
rocket chest with all rocket based weapons
They smoke some good stuff at Bungie that’s for sure
if you can call it that
titans have the most weapon buffing exotics but no exotic pairs
I guess you can say it's that but that's just a damage buff that affects a lot of weapons
That just causes class disparity. At least with weapons of sorrow they are still good on other classes. Also my boi Osteo Striga would like a word with you.
hazardous at max stacks effectively gives you pre nerf bns on rockets
people when bungies next exotic is meta: "its too stwong, nerf it NOW!!!!"
bns is nerfed on rockets?
was 35%, now 30%
A while ago
blanket nerf
Most the weapons they buff suck
oh
people when bungie releases an exotic thats not for DPS but for fun: "THIS SUCKS, BUNGIE BAD!!!!"
Bait and switch is nerfed in general
Baby nerf
its equivalent to lumina
Plus the spec mod
Popping transcendence gives u pre nerf bns
never said they were good
bait and switch is still top 5 perks in the game tbh
BNS is still the top perk for DPS for most weapons it rolls on
30% for taking 1s to proc
The bait and switch nerf to Linears was heavy handed af
and buff lasts for 11 sec enhanced
like the arm mod🤯
high ground rocket when bungie
why would you ever use anything else atp
Oh ofc, pressing 1 2 and 3 and getting any kind of damage buff, be it 20 or even 15 is really solid
doesn't semiotician have it
el is kinda situational by comparison
perk didnt exist at the time did it
and does less dmg
High ground ? No.
Is there an origin trait worse than Head Rush?
stg high ground launched in witch
Explosive light for hunter rotations when still hunt was ridiculous
thats why we have classes lol, to create a diverse playstyle.
thats the only situation el saw some spotlight
theres that halloween one that does literally nothing
but bns is just plain superior 95% of the time
Yes. In abilities. It should never directly be that way for guns.
Field tested for pve specifically maybe?
apparently did, but only on sniper+fusion
its on a couple crota weapons aswell
Do ammo finders work on double special sets? I forget
There are two good damage perks. BnS which is universally applicable and the highly situational but lethal surrounded. Everything else is inferior to these two
need persuader back in some sort of pool bro
fr
kinda but at a very very very reduced rate
pale heart sniper has an insane pool, but its adaptive
yeah, lfg gets slashed in half though
Hmmm so not really worth it then?
it takes i think 93 kills on average to get one brick
its better than nothing
oh god
with special weapons 😭
but lfg on double special is kinda dookie
Critical anomaly with the new perk? Idk anything about the new weapons genuine curiosity
you dont make sense at all lol, my point is, still hunt post nerf, is so close on dmg value on non-nighthawk user. means theres a VERY small reason now that "why should i use nighthawk with this"
unless its a rocket sidearm
@upbeat quarry bad news
did they remove reserves swapping yet or is that when solstice drops
rocket sidearms continuing to be the best special weapons
then its every 20ish kills
is the bungie bounty still active
if we use acrius or whisper we need to pull wipe for banner ....
not yet at least
Well chaos reshaped can be very inconsistent and if you lose it it takes forever to build up
rocket sidearms keep winning
And that's fine. The fact that Still Hunt is still a viable option without this interaction should say something. You act as tho that same class doesn't have a tether.
or no?
Gotcha, I feel ya
cause u only get 14 bullets of whisper or 8 of acrius when u get to second
how much timeloss is a warlock
brick rng 😻
i still havent gotten an abberant action with incandescent
0 why
cause you could have one ceno
Ceno?
if you can get chaos x2 procced, its the best dmg buff in the game
very sad going to cry
and stl the bricks with scav
someone remind me to stop trying to midair quickscope barrier champs
probably get enough ammo to kill
so with your logic, class exotic uniqueness basically goes out the window
buts its fun tho
Do it again
Why would we ask you to stop playing optimally?
Yes. With guns.
its fun
wit damage gets a bit tighter though
and on harold you alr have someone on div
so they just kinda stay on div
nah its fine
he can swap back to hunter during 2-3
theres time to swap like from hunter to warlock on 1-2 and from warlock to hunter on 2-3
I've been reading this discussion, why do you think guns shouldn't have interactions with specific classes? That's a very common things in most rpg games so why not this one?
lets just agree to disagree i guess
the issue is that the other two classes cant compete
Because in Bungie's case they cannot balance it. We wouldn't be having this discussion at all if they could. And yeah let's.
Can everyone enjoy the game without min-maxing the game DPS ?
if ur gonna add a crazy weapon interaction with a specific class you need all the classes to have something like that
No
dps is fun though
i like big numbers tho
must min max everything!!!

min max perks
big number big happy
im just glad i wont get accused of throwing for not running hunter on witness
it do be fun
yeah i min-max pvp stuff ❤️
thats why i like dot damage
🙏🏻
ive spent more time looking at numbers than playing d2 in the past like 3 months
many number
did u solo liminality
most sane d2 player
working on it
ooo gl
first attempt yet?
That is what u says last time during your bed
wanna run liminality again
🙂 no
i need an eager cold steel slammer bruh
I'm of this exact argument, but I'd rather them uplift every class than burn hunter. Screw balance we're using space magic
???
okay lets run warlords and gotd
alr


ye i switched to warlock
is the slammer worth getting
the power fantasy would be fun but lets be real there would be no reason to run anything else with the exception of niche scenarios like atraks
i have not soloed a gm yet
if you skate a lot yeah
Frenzy and BnS
This happened with Starfire Protocol a year ago. If something is definitely stronger on one class, so much so that other options pale in comparison, it should be addressed to keep a healthy sandbox.
hmmm
i have to ask, wth is bungie thinking when making exotic armor???
i dont play alot of warlock since tfs dropped
and i never learned how to grapple skate
it also makes it more fun for the op class, just look at how warlocks reacted to the well nerf
cuz the ONLY good exotic for titan since i left in season 1 of lightfall, is the gauntlet for banner of war
????
The slammer, yes ?
isnt that the same roll as guillotine
the roll it cant get yeah
See ? This is why this chat never settled down at anything
"replace your barrier with an overshield BUT slow you down and make barrier not recharge till the overshield is gone" that's just a downgrade
Idk I think Warlocks who don't Well Skate are chilling. Song of Flame is kinda busted, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's DR got nerfed.
this tbh, instead of lets say bringing the dmg up of base still hunt gg, lets say 10-15, then nerf the nighthawk interaction by only 20% of cooking 33%, this nerfed the hunters decently, and uplifted other class using it
the reason you are farming slammer is for eager cold steel tho ngl
even with the warlock well meta, thats different from still hunt bc you just needed 1 warlock with well as opposed to 4+ celestial hunters
"bonus damage for stasis weapons" if it's not +150% damage i don't care to get nerfed that much
try devils lair whenit comes around if u feel like it
vortex frames are ❌ not 🙅 dps swords
no i was saying that warlocks are happy that well got nerfed bc they dont feel like well is a complete necessity anymore
"eager edge skating is a end game content"
even pyrogale, who will ever use that when you get no ability regen to make use of it?
Oh yes. Hard agree.
me!
guillotine is iirc the best dps sword if bequest + enhanced surrounded isnt on the table
best dps yes
i am a pure collector thats why, triumph red border catalyst
i farmed like 50 wild styles and didnt get a single recon bns i dont think i have it in me to farm for a sword
its like par with every other sword, but has trash total
its so much better now that well is viable and yet not a necessity for raids
any1s got like a console player group chat or smth?
bequest has like 16 mil total lol
and it should be the same for celestial still hunt
titles
As a hunter main, who's experienced every damage meta since mid forsaken, I can say I was getting tired of well too
weirdly high impact + e.surr does that
holy sht bequest light attack spam is 18 million total
Idk why hunters want to mainline celestial when they have aruably the best Prismatic subclass in PVE AND PVP
and arbor warden COULD have been cool if it granted any kind of secondary effect like "ehnanced class ability regen while you don't have a barrier on the ground"
wtf lmao
and still hunt was even worse bc at least well only required 1 warlock while on witness it was like the whole fireteam needed to be hunters
burber
Caster ergo sum with Polaris lance, is it as good as aegis said
bequest with surrounded on ecthar goes hard
maliketh got hands....
wait so quick question is still hunt celestial still the most dps for witness?
1h2l guillotine having 4.5m total 💀
@eager path idk how realistic aeon finis are but it would work better
or has something edged past it now
aeon bricks are like 30% more powerful than ceno bricks at worst case
I've heard yes from some people I'm not 100%
ok its whatever honestly
This looks oddly familiar to raid sword
Pretty sure it's still the best, but not by a huge margin anymore
some b*ner
the important thing is that other dps rotations can actually compete now
wait isnt summum deez nuts sword is the "best" sword atm? cant remember whose video i watched a days ago
is that from twilight princess
best but other options can be used without getting laughed at post-raid
aegis was lying wave frames are bad
ugh i want euphony so bad i NEED IT 😭
Google says Roblox
it looks so fun with a threadling build
o
I wanna see more titan damage rotos be good titans have been shafted for too long
true
the way its modeled and shaded gives me twilight princess vibes
if you stack every buff in the book yeah
we would probably get both
I like how they keep buffing threadlings to relevance. I like my green guys.
titans are getting some buffs soon right? idk if its enough tho
every buff->literally just CR
summum bonum sweep
wait did I hear threadling buffs
each ceno aeon fini is guaranteed to be like 30% of reserve
so pack hunter + 3x lucent blades + adept impact + jagged + relentless + enhanced surrounded
If titans actually get a truly noteworthy buff I'll shave my head
I do like me that sword
then its 230k dps
reduce all dmg by 70%
threadlings with osmiomancy star eater has been on par with getaway prismatic for me lately
with 12 million total
problem with summum is the tracking, its sooooo bad, even with capped fps
its not that bad
they're making Towering Barricade shorter and thinner
Best we could do is Relentless Strike and BnS
Threadlings without Thread of evolution make my heart sad tho
adaptives and lament are way worse
what is bequest dps
light light light light light
Thank god
summum b*ner drops from witness yay
I think I have that for stage salvations edge sword
whats ur threadling build?
critical anomaly too
the witness' what now
Isn't there a specific time on the timer for vengeful corruption that you can melee the dude and he despawns? I swear that was a thing but I can't get it to happen again
Sad that Heavy attack isnt worth it for some reason
yeah 0 :^)
Obviously not what I meant
i really need to get more experience on witness bc the 2 times ive cleared were when other ppl did the mechanics
i love it when my bequest misses completely to the side for no reason <3
its a fun mech
so theres like no way i can do the challenge rn without throwing
Strand warlock with Swarmers. Thread of evolution required.... Hot swap to Apotheosis if possible. From there it's personal preference, by the Weaver's call is kind of a must pick
swarmers is worse than mid
like for what in the game do we need sword heavies to have so much impulse
nightmare crota nightmare crota nightmare nightmare nightmare
I dunno, the total hands-free ad clear it provides is pretty great
It's like if the Colony was good
Swarmers is good if you don't want to use The Wanderer aspect and don't want to invest in sever
skating !
eager shall provide 🙏
rathil and ecthar
@wanton halo time
not today tho
ive had lament whiff on ecthar so idek
need a weapon mod that gives better tracking(no not aim assist)
Today is master SE challenges on me other character
Donkey Kong aerial down b
Any cool wired headset recommendations?
Dont worry. Monkey cannot do it today anyway
Unironically I’ll never get the title for SE. finished and claimed every triumph except the clan run 
cat ears
That is subjective
Wires make my ass itch
SAD
It still based on your end anyway so go out and tried it yourself
Pull wire out ass
Hyperx cloud series, affordable and comfy, big recommend
Go to Russian Best Buy and test out a headset
Kazakh* bestbuy is call technodom
Two Dixie cups and some dental floss will do you right for a headset if you like DIY
headset as in with an attached mic or headset as in headphones
Can we still get retrofit escapde anywhere?
we can probably get two fini with tag
I imagine xur or banshee...
operation seraph shield in legends tab when its in rotation
havent done it yet
I also have this. A wireless one. It’s a bit costly but I reccomend it. Charge time is quick, battery time / life is long, voice quality is good and it’s comfortable
bring ad clear is shrimple
Can I throw my 2 cents in for steel series arctis 7?
that should cap ammo
p bad
Absolutely I've been looking into them
I love them because the battery lasts FOREVER, it can fast charge, and the non leather earpads keep your ears cool. Doesnt lock in sound as well as leather but its a trade off. And they can do bluetooth too
wired
wireless reccomendation
Not sure about wired. But wireless.... love em
im using a pair of cloud alphas
how does spoils of conquest work? Im not getting any from crota or LW?
pun definitely intended
fitting name
Screw the bot. Arctis 7 = big yes
hyperx typically has a fairly neutral sound signature
most headsets tend to be super bass heavy
never shell out for gamer brand peripherals 🙅
real
Just bought the Artcis Nova pro wireless and it's the best headset I've ever owned.
hyperx headsets are rebrands of actual audio equipment usually though so thats an exception
except mice bc there is literally no alternative
true
the razer naga pro mouse is pretty nice for work too beside gaming
i dont prefer wireless but i also hajve the nova pro and love them . most comfortable headset ive ever had. never get sore
if you dont want a seperate mic then it is what it is
hyperx usually does okay, but a few of their models have pretty awful QC
The hotswap battery feature literally shuts down all complaints about wireless battery life. On top of that you can use the headshet wired if desired
ah didnt even look into them enough to know the hotswap feature
i won a hyperx pulsefire haste from a raffle and it's actually been great 😭
dont see why you wouldnt, you sacrifice a lot to have a headset
the g502 will always be a goat of mice though
dont want a mic on my desk or on stand and not an audiophile so meh
It's a huge reason why I chose them. The volume reader/blue tooth connector holds an extra battery that charges.
NOOO
too heavy
embrace clip-on mic 👍
i hate this server so much
I use the Razer clone of that. Can agree.... love it lol
"oh you want to write something a bit indepth? Nah this is the destiny chat, we have nothing indepth going on"
Best sounding headset for gaming ive ever heard? The Audeze Penrose ones. Heavy af. Sound quality is on a diff level
noting down so this man is in Kazakhstan
why is it so expensive still tho? The Razer Naga Pro is at the exact same price as it despite having 3 different side pannels
@lilac wraith hop on we running gotd
wym expensive, you can usually pick it up on sale for 20
o ok
ur not wrong but it's a matter of preference, i got really used to it so the switch to a lighter mouse was a huge adjustment
i don't live in america
import tax diffy
ive had it. too much going on imo
here it's 100$ and the naga pro is also 100$
go pro
probably just getting fleeced then
but i have to admit, the Razer software sucks
or youre looking at one of the updated 502 models
naga pro is more meant for like wow/LoL
most peripherals are on the expensive side here if you're looking for something of actual quality
😔 feel that
agreed. I only use it for DPI and maybe a macro every now and then, idc about RGB
feet
i mostly use the 2 and 6 button pannels. The 6 one is SO good for programming
Worlds best mouse is the logitech g502
having back/forward AND copy/paste AND having the side-scrolling on the wheel at the same time is a godsent
this statement made me die internally
worlds best mouse is the one i have (idk what its called)
for programming? ok im interested in how. expand plz lol
just wish sidescrolling was continous
oh really
also for speciffic programs, since i have 2 buttons free, i can do stuff like ctrl+shift+v for "exact copy paste"
ahhh i see. I never thought of that.
talking to gaming mouse enthusiasts is only worse than talking to actual mouse enthusiasts
haven't gotten a use for the 12 button pannel yet
Fantastic feel and side buttons
....
Ya im not an FPS pro so I choose the comfy one with lots of battery life
i guess i could make a macro for brackets for it but that's stupid considering there's 3 types of brackets
after a certain point, i would agree
gaming mouse enthusiasts are actual schizos
I'm exuma I'm the obeah man
ok mice is whatever but what about headphones?
schizos
well its almost like its a personal preference
and getting to take off the pannels to clean them without risking the mouse itself is very nice too
im asking for yalls favs
mfs think that they will become fps pros after buying a new mouse
(excluding gaming headsets with the built-in mics bc they are all trash)
g435 are the GOAT! I apparently got them at a whopping 50% off by mistake
speaking from experience you just described the entire valorant community
U forgot that Rodwaffle have a tendency to mess around too
Wait buying a new mouse won't make me good at PVP?!
cuz they got that GOOD pads by default that you can wash(don't wash the sponge inside in a washing machine)
i got a new mouse recently and sucked for weeks trying to tweek to what i liked
it'll make you worse for like a month lol
Razer Basilisk V3 (pro) wireless/G502 wireless. Basically the same mouse. heavy but love it.
yes
I used to be like that constantly adjusting sensitivity then realized that the real issue is me not sticking to the same sens long enough to get used to it, so I gave up and now just use defaults (unless it's really bad)
i was talking about headphones
bro what? Basilisk v3 pro is even more expensive than the Razer Naga Pro
erm, what the scallop?
ive had the same headset for like 5 years and the padding is just cooked
on headphones, basically any that has cloth pads
cuz cloth is the only one that doesn't rip
yeah, linux cant do bluetooth headsets really. queality becomes real bad if you need to use mic
My bad. Steelseries Arctis 7's. 1/2 the price of the nova pros... mostly the same
it only gets dirtier and needs washed
AND cloth are designed to be taken off and washed
Basically. And you don't have to shell out extra for compatibility chips like you do with the wireless... thanks consoles
some of these players would ask if everyone else thinks their own eyes are good if they could see through them
just save your tribes money or stfu and buy it
i did buy it at like 30$
the no hand break witness kill
great job
surely it bypasses challenge right
if you really care about Raid Report when considering someone for your fireteam when you are still down 2 more guardians. i have one question
what are u even talking about
why do you care so much about how many clears someone has?
whats the question
and the battery is good for a whole day and ALSO works while it's charging
no concern to you
is master crota's end hard?
not just the clears its also how fast they do raids, it generally shows if the person knows what they are doing
is normal crotas end hard?
not really (i have only ever done normal VOG)
nah it's a strike
what dps do yall like to run for witness on warlock? besides euphony bc rng
do you suck?
is it really that good to get one more person if the clear might take an hour longer becos they dont know fast verity
cloudstrike crux or still hunt apex
mostly euphony cuz its so good
yes its also meta on warlock becos game evil
euphony is worse than still hunt without nighthawk
I have imposter syndrome and low self esteem (I play piano at an objectively high level)
no it really doesnt. all it shows is how lucky you are with the rest of your fireteam. one players raid report is only 1/6th of the story
infact euphony worse than lots of things
i knoww 😭 but i need something to use until i get it to drop
do u know fast verity strat
well stick to the grand
Fast clears ain’t happening with LFG. Usually there is one guy who doesn’t know the encounters or is absolute 🍔 at playing the game of following instructions
no. do it legit or dont do it at all
im dumb what is crux?
case closed
crux termination arc rocket launcher
you wanna cheese it instead of knowing the mechanics.
Tried to teach some peeps fast verity and somehow doing one less swap seems hardest than doing more swaps 
its not a cheese you absolute stigglehorn 😭
ppl use that? what roll?
recon explosive light
my point of casuals being more annoying than elitists in this game gets proven more and more every day
Is Krisz a Prius overachiever?
6
6
2
Fraud
what is this deep south specific rural town word I am reading here
fast verity strat that sounds like cheesing it to me. just avoiding or skipping steps in mechanics is cheesing it
made it up
open up matchmaking in raids!
actually surprising, id think linux would have particularly good support for that

Aura
if something is fast it automatically means it's a "cheese"?
It’s not a cheese, you just avoid pointless unnecessary swaps
this is exactly what an elitist would say tbf
like these people can't be real
if you are bypassing steps in the encounter, yes its literally what cheesing means
you basically skip the lfg strat steps
its a cheese if they didnt mean you to do it that way
where did you get "bypassing steps" from
ur not skipping steps with the fast strat bc the regular strat actually adds extra steps
it's just a different method that happens to be faster
instead of doing the part where everyone doubles up you just send the correct shapes straight up
the fastest verity strat i've done is just random depositing on the first step then doing the "who needs what", usually it's just 3 total moves
all of you used to cheese bridge, lol
because it skips swaps that are necessary in a normal run
it's like these people just create an idea in their head and argue against that
they are not necessary in any way
Anything that has the words fast cheese or skip is considered an exploit and not playing the game the way the devs intended it to be played 
isnt it easier and just as quick (for the challenge) to send the shape ur statue holds to the statue on ur right then double up on CC/SS/TT?
cheesing->not doing it slow and poorly
think so yea im not sure tho
so if in normal lfgs in let's say ron, the strat on 2nd is to run one color. If you use the strat where two swap is that a cheese?
its what my team did last week and it was honestly easier than the regular rounds
in destiny 2 there is no such thing as cheesing
cheesing means to use a method that skips one or more steps in each of the encounters. like skipping doing the eyes on riven by swording her foot.
the 6 man running strats in question
or skipping one or more swaps in RoN
cheesing just means do it better than you?
crazy
yea this person isn't real
cheesing means doing it in fewer steps than the devs intended
6 man running is impossible you cant it within the time given
riven sure you skip mechanics, none of these other things skip mechanics though
me when they make up a faster strat than the slower made up strat: cheating
Honestly these is no fast start slow strat lfg strat whatever strat. There’s only skill issue or not
When you don't use machine guns for damage and one phase witness: cheating....
raid devs when the weapons team drops eager edge weapons
if the encounter is designed to be done in 4 steps, and you do it in 2, thats cheesing the encounter
i love playing with cheaters
how do you know if the encounter was designed to be done in 4 steps
eager edge lets you move faster than intended. you are a CHEATER.
im not argueing with you dawg get outta here
then design it better
if its possible to be done in 2 steps, thats the optimal play, any more and youre just being slow for cope reasons
doesnt bungie literally champion alternative strategies that circumvent intended design, therefore not making it an exploit?
literally every other live service game patches out these exploits
yea cuz you know im always right
yo where's my duo flaw master crota carry at gangatron
get outta here
yes
With your logic 90% of the peeps outside dissect with a calculator. Was that intended to be done with a calculator ? So talk cheating according to you
@iron sinew this dude is double silver dawg ignore him
if 90% of the runs in the first month are done in 4 steps for that encounter, it sets a precedence that that encounter should be done in 4 steps.
they are probably patching the new thing on witness where you break the glyphs without buffs
not surprising
bungie very inconsistent in their philosophy tbh
yeah then people saying that "cheesing" makes you (x) descriptor are just bad at the game
but fast verity isnt a cheese
tbf there are things like the riven cheese which is 100% a cheese and yet bungie has left it alone
when i get a pc ill get you it trust
fast verity is just a faster strat you dont cheese anything
who would ever turn down efficiency
If there are not adept drops from Master riven then why would you farm master last wish?
fast verity is very much intended
the dude crying would unalive his grandmother for a raid weapon
it's left in the game therefore it's intentional
If all the groups i join use retrofit for damage, then if you use a rocket then you're cheesing
woah dont insult me or ill report you to the proper authorties
but it was originally unintentional and still circumvents all the mechanics
therefore its a cheese
not you, bluejay is expecting his duo master root carry buddy
wtf did I watch.?
not saying it should be patched for the record
what stopped us from cheesing in pantheon again
yeah, but they left it in the game so it's reteroactively intended
if they didnt want it in the game they would've patched it out, it's that simple
woah i know bluejay hes like at least a top 1000 player
hes so good
Like it doesn't make sense
yea bro
i feel like it's moreso that bungie knows if they patch the cheese the community will riot
does switching to a rocket increase the speed at which the encounter is completed? does using a rocket instead of retrofit allow you to skip individual steps in the encounter that you cant skip with retrofit?
bluejay is top 1 0-1 dsm root player
i get 150 kills in warden of nothing strike 😎
Why would I farm a master raid that has not adepts/harrowed
hii zoe
yea just check his speedrank thats all that matters
back to boykissing
hello ava
nope, sure dont. just hq audio works fine but if you want mic - you get giga аss audio
none of you are top 100, why i dont care what you say
nvm hes diamond 1
doing more damage speeds up the encounter yes, you go from a 2-3 phase to a one phase
youre right hes buns
rough
projection :3
get ur speedrank up buster
i was master for one day when se came out 😎
top 50 bluejay may never happen again
mmmn hmm. and does it allow you to skip steps in mechanics that are required to start dps?
top 50 no name has happened before tho
im still top 50 for ron clears somehow despite doing like 3 per month
this guy is the same person that would complain about closing totems in third in one swap because "u need more resonance"
im top 50 for ron carries buster get on my level
everyone hates ron?
devs intended you to 3 phase every boss 😡
we always need more resonance
mechanics in raids are usually gated by requirements. how you meet the requirements doesn't matter, as long as you do, you're doing them as intended
you closed without sending it back 400 times? bypassing mechanics.. cheater
answer the question
in fact it does
i did
what im hearing is if i use ring.io im totally justified
u know ball
using a rocket launcher allows you to triple break which in turn would allow you to bypass the witness test
how so?
real recognizes real🐺
dont think thats a cheese tho
Just out of curiosity can you get any exotic out of exotic engrams from rahool?
its just breaking them at the same time
Because I've been trying to get the Cadmus Ridge Lancecap exotic for a pve build im trying to create and was wondering if I needed to do lost sectors for it
i can triple break get on my level
close the game down!!! nerf pvp!!!! one thing has disrupted pve slightly
that would only work if you were having high latency. only way to do that is either bad internet, or a vpn. the latter is against ToS as it is network manipulation#
i can triple break consistently on any lfg because brazil diff 😎
multibreak is actual cheese since bungie cant code their game to remove the buff fast enough
i would do se speeds but just looking at the orbit screen sends me into schizo boredom
not true
this just isn't true what 😭
do you play the game at all
join the salvations edgers farm for a free sub 30
vpn against tos 🤯
i should clone myself to get pbs fr
bluejay is having a “fleeting” moment we call it
i'll be in chall without touching the game at all 🗣️
ive tried appearantly sticking my pp in a random coma patient isnt legal?
bro ☠️
when is the total non-residential vpn ban like in lostark?
no wonder game exploded
you can definitely triple break with low latency, what you would need high lat to do is like 6 break
ive sextuple broken before using a thing called net.limiter
R1 meta
gg we are cooked
my aura so strong all i gotta do is look at the boss to do all breaks 🔥
lostark had other problems beyond bots
arent u colored?
nah its minus aura
not on my type timing 🦅
🧑🌾
so it is cheesing then. if it bypasses mechanics then that is cheesing
womp womp whats ur speedrank
what if the mechanic is rng
go check my raidreport then
then get lucky or wipe
guess im always lucky
womp womp
too lazy tell me a number
im so tired of people duo running in ron....why can't people just play legit and not cheese.....
nah
u quite literally dont have ur bungie name in ur bio
silver 4
bro has 3 lifetime clears
this man has literally not cleared se 😭
literally what the pronouns section is set to
omg me too
i would like to inform you ive cleared it 81 entire times 😎
good for you
damn thats cool
eww you have pronouns 🤢
erm have you cleared a job application 😠
W Black man
i only have 55 full gotta step up my game
don't say that around dr disrespect
@pliant swallow
grooms you
😭
no i dont. discord wanted to add it so i just use it for my bungie name instead of pronouns
even better
Hello bro
bro?
it is what it is
Truth
@stray field guess what?
crazy
dont wanna
ur discord gonna get suspended
he called the e-police 😭
nah
literally said they are 12. discord detects that automatically. i dont needa report since they use ai to moderate their platform
yap yap show a band
but if you want me to report then sure
That ai is not sigma then
go band for band with me rn
fr
quick whats 6x2
I have too much money to carry with me I collect doubloons and gold bars
6x2 is 12
no name why u still in chat u could be getting to 300k on aberrant!!
wrong
^
My old disc was sussed because I said I was literally a newborn
im kill farming while i type
cool. as long as its not in a pinnacle activity.
might be a tad cooked
hes built diff
it is
macroing kills? or doing it onehanded while typing on discord on your phone?
235,054 atm
anyone disappointed with lack of oiled up nezarec scenes in the Final Shape?
4
4
1
yes
im not macroing im not a nerd
sick poll
hi lou
what 😭
thats good. carry on lad
haiii
he looking for anything to get this man banned 😭
ur silver 4 dont talk to me
d1 hating
hi StarGoldenAZ#2838
you mad
hi Uchur
im not mad im interested 
nah. my raid report is off, was only on for a few weeks, so only the raids i did in those few weeks got recorded
thats not how it works😭
gg
omg the parkour
im reporting you for false information and lying youre cooked
ok, check your raid report, screenshot it, then go to https://www.bungie.net/7/en/User/Account/Privacy and turn off activity feed and show progression, do 3 raids then check your raid report
it updates ...
doesnt go up
that only sets it to private 😭 it still records it
that just turns off ppl being able to see it ur actually slow
cant show it on raid report as raid report needs to be able to see it
it wont show every single clear but u can still see how many total clears and the ranks
ur 21 years old and slow?
crazy man go to bed
it will still be recorded + if you're logged in it'll show for you
- after you make it public it will update for everyone else
i still pocket watch private rr by checking each individual clear leaderboard and speed leaderboard and adding them up
unbelievable that you added them all up
chat izi or still hunt on simmumah
had too
still hunt as always bbg
prime ron lfg was so goated i wanna go back fr
idk nothing about dungeons dawg
remember when everyone use to run the 10 carry emblen 😭
yes 😭
cataclysmic simmumah 😼
twas fire bro
@languid crypt I'm breeding thousands of cockroaches nd putting them inside ur apartments' walls
can i breed you?
izi
i remember top guardian8295 and mooney were the first ones i saw using it
W game
mooney is buns he hated me cuz i killed farm so i infact had to make him an op
why bro hates for kill farming like
i found his alt in lfg once 😭
he was indimidated by my aura
hes a femboy now 🐺
he said he made a whole new acc because people wanted him to carry once they saw he was in master
he has a 5:05:47 speedrank rn?
i haven't seen him on his main in like 30 years
speedrank is strange rn i remember i was off master for like 10 mins now with salvations im comfortable at like 400
alting in d2 is unhinged
lot of people stopped playing or jus didnt run se at all
he has a edge clear from june 16th
i love getting carried in raids to yap about speedrank and kill farm all day
i love doing salvations edge raidington
the homies getting heretic pbs but im just chilling on elden ring fr
help me defeat radagon he vigor checks me even tho i have 99 😭
as long as neither of your accounts recieve suspensions, its perfectly ok to have alts. if one gets suspended, dont use the alt till the suspension is lifted, otherwise it IS against ToS
weeding out the competition fr
bro that's like the easiest shardbearer 😭
Ban for what?
help me bbg
this guy is the ultimate bungie cop
lock in gang
speedrank is the most important thing in d2
What can you even get owned for in pve
TOS is made to be broken 👇
literally just parroting what other people have said
100% i love numbers on the third party website
couldnt agree more if your not top 300 youre buns and have no social status also -1000 aura
okay, let me know how that goes for you
🐺
thanks ive been network manipulating for like 5 years and not been stopped
i can't even lie when an lfg tries to fact check me and then asks how many clears i have i start giggling and kicking my feet
ring1.io me a gos pb
Oh damn
wish it was me making you do that bbg
gos economy is in shambles rn 😔
Any chances The Conductor is Asher Mir from the future ?
ePL changes ruinous
help me beat my 18;45 gos
i thought all raids except for kf were still runnable gg
That would be lame
kf is runnable
wow
need to get me a vow pb (im not doing it)
its all but confirmed to be Msundaresh
they are it's just when 7500 got patched like a giant % of farmers just quit
my favorite thing is still when someone doesn't dunk in 3rd enc and I tell them they didn't and then they go off on me saying they are 100% sure they do not have resonance
No clue who even is that
my main gos goat runs vog now 😭
and then I can count down the seconds until they die and they go silent the rest of the enc
watching someone spontaneously combust because they have no eyes
They guy who drowned himself in milk atleast is somewhat relevant
count me down
wait till i get a pc ill make a new account buy hertic and cheat everyone pbs
?
There are Microplastics in Your Testicles
So the weakest links left ain't no one care
ironic
@azure cloak got a name change and doesnt wanna reregister lmao. scared i would check their Raid Report
My goat is a touhou fan
🙀
Why would you check their raid report
ah hell no
who’s simmuamah
surely you can stall in water...
nvm i’m slow
so many master witness checkpoints vro i just wanted a fresh
Why are they even being egoed on their raid report by a guy with 3 raid clears
hes an undercover bungie cop he tryna catch everyone in chat being evil
they want in on my cheater behavior
GoTD last boss
simmumah deez
i saw someone in cruc the other day and that mf had 1685 GOS clears
I HARD CHEAT IN LOST SECTORS
why not? since they so open about it they wouldnt mind if i checked, except now im asking, they are being evasive about it
mentally ill
the equivalent of a smoke break between shifts
It cant be for ego what would you need it for
Who was it
sounds like they trying to hide the fact they paid for carries
cant recall
lmao what
I pay for carries through gms
if you werent trying to hide that, then you wouldnt be so evasive about saying what ur bungie id is
Like what I doubt they cheat
i straight up told you how to find me, its not my fault you lack
i searched your username and there are 24+ users with the same username
duo
yeah
oh were you already duo, nvm i wont say solo that dungeon sucks
we were duo but he is gone for 20 mins
its joever
im solo rn
there is a solution
its called giving up
bruh simmumah aint hard
or posting an lfg 🧠
lmao lfging in the one channel that you arent allowed to lfg in is wild
su-cide is always an option
bro u gotta have some sorta adhd or something theres no way you are like that with every rule ever written like cmon
like genuinely drop the act vro
bro thinks he green name
lmao i got adhd as well. diagnosed at age 6
i found it. his name is Rio#4885
been diagnosed for 14 years now
❤
Hmmm thought it was someone I knew I'm not familiar with this name

the 1600 clear noname
@azure cloak did you know that you can link your bungie.net to your discord?
bro did all 1600 clears with the same group
yeah quite funny bungie is next to stuff like youtube and ig
praying they add integrated discord invites like fortnite
Every crota farmer:
first thing i thought of when i saw you could link your bungie
does anyone have a drop rate sheet for dung exotics? Like buried?
yeah i thought it was quite funny seeing how he had 1600 clears on one single raid
bungie posts server updates on twitter instead of their official forum, you want actual feature updates? nah
still waiting for you to send your bungiename
only exotic im missing is buried
heard its base 3%, whatever it is its low, but boosted a lot with triumphs
annoying part is that boss is the worst like so bad
i actually like the boss 😟
takes too long
valid
idk whats good on it either as well
boss got more mechanics than all of ron
Raid report cant even tell you if someone paid for a carry
do u jus run like edge transit
yeah prolly, i always top with edge and like izi or some 140
okay
always tell people if you really want the exotic, do the solo flawless it matters
did the work but never turned it in
im sutpid