💬destiny-chat

[civic kettle]

yeah same

[sudden fossil]

cenotaph microcosm

[ivory stratus]

Hold left mouse with heavy trace ig

[wanton halo]

If you want ignition kills as a hunter I recommend caliban

[last carbon]

Known bug, take super black off and it’ll work

[nocturne bay]

is this solid damage?

[civic kettle]

for this week just use wendigo + cloudstrike

[fringe fable]

oh so the artifice is always the new dungeon? (and grasp when in rotation)

[charred yacht]

If you have cloudstrike wendigo I think that is good maybe

[sudden fossil]

like 2.5m in a phase iirc

[kind sierra]

Lmao

[last carbon]

Simply use the exotic you get from killing the witness

[feral minnow]

i don't even have superblack on, you can't fool me

[pine fog]

Levis breath with cata, and nova bomb

[spice plank]

I just still hunt/cataclysm'd Witness x3 this week at titan/warlock/hunter any of that stuff works

[valid holly]

[nocturne bay]

ive heard thats it good for him but i dont have it yet sadlt

[last carbon]

All hunters have super black under their armor, switch classes

[civic kettle]

wrong surge

[feral minnow]

literally says ignition

[wanton halo]

I never farmed a DPS wendigo, I never bought into the idea that heavy GLs would ever be damage dealers again

[feral minnow]

u r wrong

[sudden fossil]

grasp, duality, sotw, gotd all in rotation and always warlords until a new one drops

[wanton halo]

I kick myself for it every day

[pine fog]

But euphony if you have it is insane on the witness with strand lock

[charred yacht]

how do you rotate with still hunt I just feel dumb everytime I try it

[spice plank]

a holster mod helps jma, regardless if hunter or otherwise

[sudden fossil]

then warlords assumes a spot in rotation and the new dungeon assumes warlords current spot of always having master available

[fringe fable]

so if i get the lightfall key does that mean i can farm warlord for a whole season?

[civic kettle]

cataphract and transit are the meta GLs for their respective energy types

[nocturne bay]

i think the problem with wendigo is that you unalive yourself too easily

[sudden fossil]

yeah

[fringe fable]

but isnt the season like one month long or smth?

[nocturne bay]

people moving around so much

[last carbon]

You’re telling me you don’t have the exotic for killing the guy you’re currently trying to kill? WOW, have you tried ending it all

[pine fog]

Until they release a new dungeon yes

[wanton halo]

I hate trials but I crafted korax, I haven’t had a chance to see if it’s worth it though

[deft onyx]

all these runs with lfg and still didnt get caliban with assassin/syntho

[nocturne bay]

ikr lol

[sudden fossil]

it’s like 4 months but there’s no telling when a new dungeon drops

[fringe fable]

ohh

[sudden fossil]

its 4:03am im tired gn chat i hate you all

[zinc anvil]

If you own light fall you can farm it forever

[lilac wraith]

that was my first drop bruh

[valid holly]

It took me about 80 class items to get everything I want for now on warlock and hunter

[fringe fable]

well thanks ig ill get the new key

[wanton halo]

Everyone gets melee stuff but titans at this point lol

[sudden fossil]

EXHIBITION GRAAAAHHHHH 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🦅🦅🦅🦅

[civic kettle]

I just am not farming for that class item anymore

[charred yacht]

bungie has been very unclear about how dungeons during the episodes and if there is even gonna be a reprised raid

[midnight gazelle]

Need this roll too :(
I want the funny Warlock Slide combo

[fringe fable]

i mean you i can but i only get artifice during rotation?

[civic kettle]

like seriously it's degrading

[last carbon]

Nah if I get one more khepri’s horn on my exotic class items I’m gonna find khepri

[spiral grove]

titans have 3x the melee exotics

[pine fog]

You’ll also get ghosts of the deep, could farm that too during the rotation

[molten condor]

💀 how long did that take

[wanton halo]

I’m not even mad at hunters for getting good melee things, I’m mad at bungie for declaring titans the melee class and only giving us nerfs

[last carbon]

Im gonna touch khepri

[tribal lichen]

Barriers and overloads make me want to do things that'll make Griffith look like a saint.

[fringe fable]

it has good weapons right?

[nocturne bay]

does song of flame work well with this combo?

[unborn ledge]

Real

[wide ice]

that's pretty good

[pine fog]

Indeed

[fringe fable]

yay

[civic kettle]

shoot them with respective anti champion weapons

[zinc anvil]

Artifice will be on warlords every week but since it’s the newest dungeon you’ll only be able to do it once. Whereas the farmable dungeons are the ones that are the weekly rotators

[wanton halo]

We do but it’s like every patch makes them get yet another nerf while everyone else is gaining

[kind sierra]

Do we know when the next dungeon is meant to be dropping?

[valid holly]

Assuming I did about 40 dual destiny's and a run takes like 25 min or something it is (25×40)/60 in h

[last carbon]

How does unraveling rounds work on barriers

[devout raft]

I still dont have hoarfrost and bear on titan…

[fringe fable]

so i only get 1 artifice per week even in master if i do warlord?

[civic kettle]

that should stun them

[spiral grove]

name 1 melee setup that titan had that is completely dead now

[last carbon]

It does not

[devout raft]

What is taking you 25 minutes 😭

[wanton halo]

Any strand gun with unraveling rounds (and no other anti-champ) will act like an anti-barrier gun

[fringe fable]

and i get as many as i want on the weekly dungeon as long as its a dungeon key raid?

[wanton halo]

Hammers

[pine fog]

Shoot them with the gun that has unraveling rounds

[brazen fern]

and volatile rounds

[valid holly]

I mean u right it's probably closer to 20

[last carbon]

Are rocket sidearms an exception

[tribal lichen]

My Arbalest and 180 hand cannon is struggling still

[last carbon]

It doesn’t work on the call

[civic kettle]

condolences you are using a 180

[short owl]

welll i just tried to use the stream promo and got told nah

[wanton halo]

As long as you don’t have anti-unstop equipped ok your artifact they shouldn’t be

[spiral grove]

😭 pyrogale and bonk titan is still an infinite loop that can solo dungeons

[kind sierra]

Most of the runs ive done have been around that

[last carbon]

Oh

[spice plank]

It does work on the call so long as your artifact mod isn't interfering

[last carbon]

That would be why lol

[civic kettle]

that's currently this seasons unstop weapon

[inner lily]

got heart of inmost and star eater is that good for loc?

[pine fog]

My go to for barrier is usually eriana’s

[last carbon]

Ye

[zinc anvil]

You can do it once per character a week for drops. Until a new dungeon is released. But like say grasp of avarice is the weekly rotator you could farm that unlimited times for artifice

[wanton halo]

Have you seen what hammers were capable of at their peak compared to now

[spiral grove]

could be better

[fringe fable]

oh 😦

[inner lily]

what am i looking for?

[spice plank]

yeah so just farm grasp for artifice

[civic kettle]

one shotting raid boss

[fringe fable]

yea then nvm im not getting the key ill just wait for grasp

[charred yacht]

doesnt erianas take 2 shots to break antibarrier lol?

[fringe fable]

the final grasp boss is super easy anyways

[valid holly]

🧏‍♂️

[devout raft]

You get unlimited

[zinc anvil]

Yea I only farm duality and grasp for artifice armor when they are weekly rotators

[wanton halo]

Yeah, i don’t want them hitting that hard but they’ve fallen from what they were

[dusky agate]

where to contact with tech support?

[spiral grove]

oh yes thats how i solo flawless'd prophecy lmao, the ultrameta infinite sustain that gave you 4 buffs on the ability you instantly got back now has a 1.5 second cooldown

[spice plank]

only if its featured

[pine fog]

No, it one pops

[charred yacht]

oh ok

[valid holly]

Artifice farm feel so dead now idk

Just use engram focusing

[charred yacht]

old duality pieces 😍

[zinc anvil]

I solo flawlessed prophecy when ignition code witherhoard and anarchy were meta in s14 haha

[spice plank]

exotic piece farming is what's really dead. that lost sector change was so stupid.

[civic kettle]

I did my last grasp farm before tfs

[wanton halo]

They’ve also heavily reduced how much of a buff they receive from melee exotics as well as the damage they do on their own

[eager path]

focus where tho

[civic kettle]

the amount of troll armor I got was so sad

[spice plank]

Milder take; keep featured rotator but feature 2 dungeons and 2 raids now since we have so many

[valid holly]

Not only do u take longer to farm bc of power caps it also drops worse pieces amd focusing basically drops the same or bettrr

[pine fog]

You used to never be able to farm anything so

[civic kettle]

surely next dungeon this will change

[kind sierra]

Yeah but artifice mod

[spiral grove]

so the ultrameta was nerfed into be slightly less ultra, meta

[wanton halo]

They’re not even meta anymore

[valid holly]

I'm so glad I have good warlock artifice from when it was good

[charred yacht]

now at least with enough ascendant shards you can just focus the same exotic a morbillion times I guess?

[spiral grove]

hammer titan is not dead at all i still see it so much

[wanton halo]

What is it doing that can’t be done better

[last carbon]

No one said it is dead lol

[charred yacht]

is a perfectly rolled exotic even really needed?

[eager path]

[spiral grove]

not a setup thats dead

[civic kettle]

I still have a 67 warlock helmet from the one time I did a master avarokk on it

[kind sierra]

I was using it before i got prismatic, was great for tfs legendary campaign

[wanton halo]

What is it doing that can’t be done better

[last carbon]

Pyrogale is a mockery of solar titan’s peak

[pine fog]

Well i get that, but you dont gotta pray, its on a set rotation

[last carbon]

Bonk hammer infinite bounce

I don’t even like solar but game recognizes game

[spiral grove]

the easiest sustain build to maintain

WITH a good damage super

[valid holly]

Bonk titan when Combo blow hunter taps in

💀

[wanton halo]

Banner, prism cons

[last carbon]

No, the infinite bounce Titan is completely unmated by anything ever

The damage cap hunter we have now doesn’t even compare

[wanton halo]

Even void depending on the situation

[last carbon]

You could isntakill riven and atheon

[wanton halo]

Behemoth has a sleeper build that makes you immortal

[eager path]

idk about that one vro icl

[last carbon]

There are so many ways to be immortal

[pine fog]

Behemoth goes hard

[last carbon]

Behemoth super goes hard

[kind sierra]

Wait are you saying titan is better than hunter? Am i understanding this rn?

[valid holly]

OK but that like not what it can do now

So it doesn't matter

[last carbon]

Not right now

[fleet sinew]

Yeah but u can do that without the funny hitbox as well

[drowsy harbor]

Behemoth goes hard for riven

[wanton halo]

I’m telling you people are sleeping on prism Titan, it’s not better than Hunter but the melee spam is ABSURD

[spiral grove]

another titan melee build that has gotten lots of nerfs from bungie yet still remains strong

[fleet sinew]

That glitch was great tho

[kind sierra]

Oh ok was gonna say lmao

[last carbon]

The old infinite bounce hammer Titan

[wanton halo]

Again again how does hammer hold up against them

[frosty valve]

prism titan in incredbly strong, people are just bad

[last carbon]

Bounce the hammer off yourself and back to the boss

[last carbon]

All prismatic classes are excellent, hunters outclasses everyone for boss DPS by magnitudes tho

[wanton halo]

Why would one use hammer over the 2 options I listed

[zinc anvil]

I think people are just too focused on titans not being great for the witness

[kind sierra]

You do realise hunters can do 1.5m dmg in a single punch rn, and tbey can repeatadly do this

[drowsy harbor]

My severance and point contact will prove u wrong

[last carbon]

Yes I do, old infinite bounce Titan did more

[fleet sinew]

Yes that is the same as killing a boss with 8.9m in one melee very cool

[last carbon]

It got patched like 2 years ago

[kind sierra]

Really?

[last carbon]

But when it worked it did more

[spiral grove]

well hammer is easier and can be pivoted into more of a support role

[wanton halo]

How does point contact work for the class item again

[eager path]

pretty sure titan is used on first boss on the speedrun because of banner of war tho

[drowsy harbor]

Jolts everything

[last carbon]

Ofc individual hits did less, but DPS was more

[charred yacht]

what does prismatic titan use for melee regen?

[eager path]

so its like not totally useless just very useless

[kind sierra]

Damn

[spiral grove]

infinite bounce titan did like 30 million damage a hammer

[last carbon]

Hunter does more melee damage than Titan now

[frosty valve]

i feel like not being good against one boss is kinda of a lame reason, specially since the witness is a pretty easy fight

[kind sierra]

Oh wait yes ik what ur on abt now

[fleet sinew]

Ye then hammer would just hit over and over again as it bounced off the enemy, with like no cooldown

[kind sierra]

The hammer glitch

[wanton halo]

Hammer isn’t easier, you hit one enemy with banner and create a walking well that you don’t even need to sustain, your allies can keep it up for you

[last carbon]

Yeah nah it was a hitbox bug

[last carbon]

Yes

[eager path]

yes and banner of war buffs sword damage which is what they use on the speedrun

[zinc anvil]

No that’s what I’m saying. People are saying it’s bad cause it’s not good against the newest boss haha.

[kind sierra]

Yeah it just registered wht ur on abt lmao

[last carbon]

It buffs sword damage? Since when?

I’m going crazy

[wanton halo]

It’s 10% but since launch

[fleet sinew]

It always has lol

[last carbon]

lol how didn’t I know that

[wanton halo]

50% melee 25% glaive 10% sword

[zinc anvil]

^

[last carbon]

How is the 10% damage buff to swords better than the hunter melee?

Can the hunters not setup or something

[wanton halo]

I don’t agree that it is, I’m just stating numbers

[last carbon]

Or does it require surrounded

[eager path]

no ads around first boss

[frosty valve]

i wish i liked glaives, they sound so fun in concept but it feels like they don't work at all with melee builds

[meager flower]

https://youtu.be/JugxpebuS_E?si=JV8iSuuwAcZlCmSz

Destiny dead

[last carbon]

Oh so it does require surrounded

Figured, like all the melee setups do

[stark relic]

since when could you use eager edge with the charge ball relics?

[last carbon]

But wasn’t sure

[feral minnow]

guyshot gay

[last carbon]

They should put wormgods in the class item

[eager path]

yea you need the tether to be tagging other ads so the grapple stacks to funny numbers

[frosty valve]

destiny players try to go 5 minutes without calling it a dead game challenge

[spiral grove]

i disagree hammer is much easier

[charred yacht]

is this true?

[wanton halo]

Most melee loadouts require you to proc things on melees that regenerate your health or grant damage reduction, glaives can’t proc 99% of these things, that’s why they’re so bad

[eager path]

and so u get the funny multiplier from the class item

[last carbon]

Make titans great again

[frosty valve]

gutshot straight if it was awesome

[wanton halo]

What support does it even offer? The same radiant that any solar class can give?

[knotty dagger]

does galanor work good with tether?

[charred yacht]

solar titans can trade hammers 😊

[wanton halo]

The same one that requires them to follow you into the enemies to get?

[obtuse meteor]

does vex incursion still drop exotics?

[wanton halo]

Banner lets them follow you safely lol

[last carbon]

Radiant melee is also on prismatic

[wanton halo]

Oh cool so hammers are even less special

[last carbon]

Solar Titan is powercrept but so is basically everything but strand

[spiral grove]

the entire lineup of sunbreaker exotics

[last carbon]

Arc Titan is also worse than prismatic in effectively every way

[knotty dagger]

also what class item should i be looking for on hunter

[feral minnow]

i got vanguardified

[warm sonnet]

gross.

[frosty valve]

arc titan was already pretty bad before imo

[wanton halo]

The only solar Titan exotic that offers support or sharing of buffs is phoenix cradle and if I catch a Titan wearing that they’re getting kicked

[last carbon]

This is very true

[wanton halo]

It shined in season 18 but after that it died fast

[frosty valve]

never been a fan of any of the arc 3.0 stuff personally

[last carbon]

I mained arc Titan and had to work so hard to make it work in GM’s

[wanton halo]

We got one season where we weren’t just a melee class and then died

[last carbon]

Arc 3.0 got shafted after they got afraid of launch arc Titan

[warm sonnet]

Does this build involve punching things?

[last carbon]

Arc 3.0 has 4 verbs, everyone else has 6-8

[frosty valve]

i quite like all the other titan subclasses tough, just arc i can't vibe with

[last carbon]

As much as possible but it’s still GM’s

Tragically, it was only like 40% punching

[wanton halo]

I think once people get a handle on prismatic it’s gonna be way too strong with all the DR you can stack

[spiral grove]

hammer titan isnt a dead setup man

[last carbon]

The only thing arc had was indebted kindness with the blinding final blow fragment

[wanton halo]

Look man my personal philosophy is that if you can make it work and don’t die then run what you want, but you won’t catch me using that until it gets a buff

[charred yacht]

trtue

[last carbon]

Which to be fair was damn effective but that is all it had

[charred yacht]

being able to do it with heavy weapons now is cool

[spiral grove]

hammer titan has a ton of things that overshadow it, by melee setups that titan has also gotten that despite nerfs make it the most flexible melee class

[last carbon]

Pairing final warning with it made it tear through -20 lost sectors

But -20 lost sectors aren’t exactly hard

[last carbon]

Yeah, but prismatic lol

[frosty valve]

ngl, never used any other solar melee cause consecration is too much fun

[charred yacht]

can you do arc blind on prismatic really?

[wanton halo]

Void overshield deserves HUGE a (pve only) buff

[last carbon]

Consecration is insanely good and anyone who disagrees is beneath me

[spiral grove]

in pvp too

[last carbon]

True

[last carbon]

Drown in a puddle

[wanton halo]

I was slamming contest mode subjugators for 300k im tired of pretending its even mid

[frosty valve]

triple consecration on prismatic is great too

[spiral grove]

i miss hedrons igneous high energy fire radiant light meta

[last carbon]

Yes, it does INSANE damage

[spiral grove]

thats a mouthful

[frosty valve]

trying to get a class item with point contact so i can have em jolt too

[keen sonnet]

Hey guys is there a way to get the ikelos shotgun without xur?

[last carbon]

Bro I have to cope so hard to use thunderclap over frenzied blade

[last carbon]

Gunsmith sometimes sells em

[wind bronze]

seraph shield when it comes back as the featured weekly exotic mission

[wanton halo]

Void Titan isn’t used because they clearly want us to use voidOS with our melees and fight on the front lines with them, but if you are hiding behind a generator it falls off like paper

[keen sonnet]

is there way to tell when seraph shield will be

[jolly musk]

I cant go past rank 100 ???

[spiral grove]

when seraphs shield is the exotic mission

[frosty valve]

thunderclap isn't bad, i just never use the regular powered melee so i don't bother with it

[charred yacht]

the new void sniper is pretty cool

[spiral grove]

it was last week lol wait another 2 months

[last carbon]

Correct, we all are filled with hatred

[wanton halo]

Imo raise the health of VoidOS and DR in pve and it’ll be more used

Even if that buff is tied to an aspect

[last carbon]

Give void a good damage super
Oh wait

[frosty valve]

i love sucking [redacted]

[wanton halo]

I’m not complaining about the axes those are cool

[last carbon]

Insane how much damage the new void super does

[spiral grove]

void os should grant immunity to elemental debuffs!!!

[last carbon]

Had no expectation they would be good

[wide ice]

can you still shoot riven's mouth when you cheese her?

[frosty valve]

twilight arsenal is def my favourite super rn

[wanton halo]

I wanna use it more but I kinda don’t wanna take off bladefury bc mail on orb pickups is awesome

[next sluice]

do i have to complete alone in the dark to unlock all cysts?

[wide ice]

yes, no? a lukewarm maybe?

[last carbon]

I wish I could use it but I gotta run blade fury for harmonic mods

[kind sierra]

Use strand melee

Wait nvm

[last carbon]

I mean, you shoot her mouth to damage her

[kind sierra]

I read it wrong

[last carbon]

So if you want to use a strat that isn’t melee then yes

[frosty valve]

a bit dissapointed with the new aspect so ill probably stick with controlled demo bullwark on void proper

[wide ice]

I usually use lament on her hand

[jolly musk]

how much dmg boost is song of flame

[wind bronze]

yeah, sucks that it's either one or the other

[last carbon]

Then do that, it will work

[charred yacht]

I can feel the scourge reprise coming man

[wanton halo]

I genuinely don’t know what they were going for with it

[normal pagoda]

chat what are the odds that party crasher comes back

[kind sierra]

No we need wotm

[last carbon]

It is a really cool concept

[wanton halo]

It feels like a pvp thing but void is actually fine in pvp anyway

[last carbon]

But your grenade is too valuable

[frosty valve]

i hear it's a decent option on pvp but on pve i don't really see the use in it

[charred yacht]

too late its already in motion

[wanton halo]

If it drained my class ability i would be fine with it

[kind sierra]

Scourge was amazing but wrath is just superior

[wide ice]

I wanted to try still hunt for damage

[charred yacht]

wrath is too hard for bungie to remake I thikn

[last carbon]

Idk for sure but I highly doubt it won’t work

[frosty valve]

i feel like it will eithe be wrath or leviathan coming back next

[last carbon]

It’s 10000% scourge

[wanton halo]

Also we need a skimmer that isn’t 30 dollars or locked behind a year long timewall

[kind sierra]

Screw bungo they will give me wrath back

[last carbon]

Source: I’m right

[charred yacht]

seeing all the scourge assets being used in every new activity makes me think it might be scorge idk

[last carbon]

Kinda hate the skimmers

You can’t dismount them properly

Sparrows, you press the button you get off

[kind sierra]

You can you just have to do it right

[last carbon]

In air?

[wanton halo]

Im fine with the weird dismount, I just hate the feeling of air jetskis

[charred yacht]

if they brought back scourge and made like a exotic skimmer instead of always on time that would be so epic

[kind sierra]

Yeah tap the rail button then tap dismount, its two button presses rather than one its not that bad

[wanton halo]

I’m too poor to buy gjallarboard or else I would

[last carbon]

Must try tomorrow

[wanton halo]

Also I have a weird niche complaint about trails on certain ships and skimmers

[frosty valve]

hope it's not scourge, mostly cause i really want master mode wrath

[hot plinth]

the only annoying part is after like 7 years of this game its hard to move away from just 1 press to get off

[wanton halo]

The weird pulsing trails suck dogass and ruin otherwise cool looking shops

[hot plinth]

bring bath WotM and Scourge

[charred axle]

does spirit of galanor returns tether?

[hot plinth]

both of em !

[frosty valve]

would not mind leviathan being skipped but given that they made crota fun maybe they could make it good too

[wanton halo]

Yes but you need more sticks than Orpheus

I don’t know exactly how many

[stark relic]

whats wrong with levi?

[kind sierra]

I got the skimmer yesterday and im already pretty used to it

[frosty valve]

always found it a bit boring and easy

[hot plinth]

do you still need to run 100 resil

[wanton halo]

It felt more like a game show (it literally was a game show) and didn’t feel very threatening or hard

[wanton halo]

Kind of, but if you can run your buffs right not necessarily

[charred yacht]

this is feeling like the crota vs wrath convo 🤭

[frosty valve]

im sure they would fix most of it on a reissue but currently id say it's one of my top 3 worst raids, mostly probably cause it was designed around vanilla d2 sanbox

[charred yacht]

(its 10000% gonna be scorge)

[dapper sundial]

is there supposed to be a dungeon this episode i forgot

[wanton halo]

Are there any other hive raids that haven’t been brought back

[stark relic]

i hope its spire or the cooking mama raid lair i forgot the name of it

[frosty valve]

im just happy they made most of crota fun (besides the abyss still sucking ass)

[kind sierra]

[charred yacht]

I think bungie would have mentioned it if there was but who knows

[wind bronze]

only crown of sorrows

[dapper sundial]

i mean technically crown of sorrow

[wanton halo]

They could throw a curveball and make a new raid too, though that’s less likely

[wanton halo]

The second episode is the hive themed one right?

[wind bronze]

third

[dapper sundial]

no

[wanton halo]

Ah damn

Thought I was on to something

[charred yacht]

2nd is fanatic

[frosty valve]

second one is eliksni/ scorn

[dapper sundial]

next episode is fallen/ scorn

[charred yacht]

scourge with scorn 🤔

[wanton halo]

If fallen are included im hinging my bet on wrath

[hot plinth]

too much effort for bungle

[kind sierra]

Which is whem well get wrathhhhhh

[hot plinth]

Fikrul has build himself a giant mech?!

[charred yacht]

bungie never adding the siva enemies into d2

[wind bronze]

fikrul has become bloodborne

[wanton halo]

Maybe I’m just a schizo but usually the secondary(or primary sometimes) threat of the season-in-question is the theme of the returning raid

[spiral grove]

his redesign makes me feel things

[frosty valve]

do we have info on what episodes this year's dungeon will drop on ? i imagine either first and third or second and third

[kind sierra]

[feral minnow]

lightfall we had fishing, the final shape we have gardening

[dapper sundial]

but gardening is boring

[spring violet]

is sword dance repeatable?

[opal orchid]

Im hype, got myself a cloak with Spirit of galanor/Star-Eaters

[frosty valve]

gardening ? is this a garden of salvation refference ?

[wind bronze]

yes

[frosty valve]

all cysts are repeatable

[feral minnow]

garden of salvation is a black garden reference

[wind bronze]

vex + plants = salvation garden

[wanton halo]

Season 14 had a vex threat and a vex raid, season 18 had a secondary threat of the lucent hive and brought back a hive raid, season, season 22 had hive and a hive raid

[spring violet]

like right after doing one you can just loop back and run through?

[wanton halo]

So if next episode will have a fallen subplot I expect wrath or scourge

[frosty valve]

blakc garden ? is this a gardener refference ?

[feral minnow]

nyoom

[dapper sundial]

god i hope they bring back leviathan soon

[kind sierra]

If they bring back scourge over wrath we boycott

[feral minnow]

i want to murder rahool

[kind sierra]

Whats the # i must add this person

[wanton halo]

I never had a chance to do either so I won’t complain

[frosty valve]

can't wait for them to bring back eater of worlds instead

[somber snow]

Two raids back to back? Yeah in your dreams maybe

[wanton halo]

As far as I know both raids were well received anyway

[charred yacht]

sequence is pattern!

[wanton halo]

Did you just start back to Destiny? This has been a pattern

[feral minnow]

lmao

[frosty valve]

they always reprise a raid half way through an expansion

[kind sierra]

Wrath is better than scourge, dont get me wrong scourge is goated but its basically a dungeon wrath is actually a raid

[wanton halo]

Every midway point through an expansion they bring back a raid

[somber snow]

Yeah, with a season in between, not two seasons back to back

[kind sierra]

Based

[feral minnow]

we're getting a new dungeon before another raid

[somber snow]

If we get another raid it'll prob be episode 3 at the earliest

[frosty valve]

we have 3 4 month seasons now, not 4 3 month seaons

[somber snow]

And they havent announced anything so im not getting my hopes up

[feral minnow]

raid dungeon raid dungeon, this is how it's been for ages

[somber snow]

4 months is still less than 6 months as it took prior

[wanton halo]

About halfway through the year of every expansion they reprise raids, during beyond light it was vault of glass, witch queen brought kings fall and lightfall brought crota’s end

[wind bronze]

wrath siege engine was awesome

[feral minnow]

zamboni

[somber snow]

You dont have to explain that ive been playing consistently since end of forsaken

[frosty valve]

and the 6 months period falls withing the episode 2 time frame

[wind bronze]

death zamboni go

[feral minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/zamboni-hockey-360-clean-gif-11714851

[stray hinge]

hello

[kind sierra]

Why is that actually acurate

[wanton halo]

They usually don’t announce the returning raid until close to time as well

[stray hinge]

how do i find a group to join dungoens?'

[dapper sundial]

do i need to pay monthly just to keep my image perms?

[frosty valve]

#dungeons

[wanton halo]

“Unstop to your right”

[somber snow]

They dont announce what the raid is but they do announce there will be a raid in x season
So far weve heard nothing

[stray hinge]

als o i am eu i dont know why it made me na

[wind bronze]

do /region

[bright grotto]

You can change your region with the /region command. Must be performed in one of the text channels.

[kind sierra]

"Dont jump too early"

[charred yacht]

it would be funny tho if all the d1 raids were in d2 with some of the d2 raids still being missing

[feral minnow]

"wtf, how did they get an overload thresher?"

[kind sierra]

It would make people basically never play d1 except for nostalgia too

[wanton halo]

I remember the flawless vow run I was doing that got ruined during post-caretaker parkour by the warlock that didn’t use heat rises

[somber snow]

They should bring back scourge

[kind sierra]

Cus some people still do weekly wrath runs

[dapper sundial]

i mean destiny 1 still has exclusive exotics and strikes

[somber snow]

Or sos

[wind bronze]

zen meteor

[hot plinth]

gimme back wotm it's been 7 years

[dapper sundial]

wotm?

[kind sierra]

Wait do you know abt the day 1 wrath controversy?

[hot plinth]

and strike exclusive loot

[wind bronze]

wrath of the machine and it's about to become 8 years old in a few months

[charred yacht]

bungie never bringing back levi raids 😭

[somber snow]

GIMME

[wanton halo]

I don’t believe so, I know that scourge had ddosing but not anything about wrath

[feral minnow]

higher percentage of d1 raids in d2 than d2 raids in d2

[wanton halo]

I don’t like to rage at teammates and I still didn’t, i was just disappointed because I honestly never expected to make it that far

[dapper sundial]

d2 is "only" missing 4 raids its not that bad :3

[kind sierra]

Ooooh boy there was a glitch that meant if you jumped down to early you got a team wipe and had to restart the encounter and it cost the team in first the win iirc

[hot plinth]

getting angry at a video game is never worth your time

[charred yacht]

actually 5 lol

[wanton halo]

That’s TRAGIC lmao

[somber snow]

5*

[frosty valve]

woudln't it be 3 ? 5 if you count lairs

[kind sierra]

https://youtu.be/3CvgD3K6AZk?si=DV1r3gwafYBTn1Bt

[charred yacht]

levi eater spire scourge crown 😭

crown was so young

[kind sierra]

Great vid, give it a watch

[wanton halo]

I usually don’t get mad at other people over video games, I mostly just beat up myself if I make a play that I find stupid

[dapper sundial]

kinda forgot about eater of worlds

[wanton halo]

But I love teaching/sherpaing players so I’m very patient

[frosty valve]

ngl, they could probably mix eater and spire into a single raid

[wanton halo]

I’ve managed to get a full vow clear where I was the only one that didn’t go in blind

[fickle rampart]

crown of sorrow was around for 1.5 years right?

[somber snow]

How would that work...

[frosty valve]

idk tbh

[somber snow]

One is cabal the other is fallen lol

[dapper sundial]

was calus selected shader given in the year 1 shader pack or just the raid, ive been thinking its rare ever since i remembered i had it

[frosty valve]

just saying so they become about the length of a normal raid

[wanton halo]

I’ve watched a lot of Evan’s videos so I’ll watch this one when I get the chance

[charred yacht]

why are vex crit spots so garbage man

[frosty valve]

oh i meant eater of worlds and spire, since they are both just doing random tasks for calus in the leviathan

[somber snow]

Scourge has 4 encounters spire has 3 eater has 3
Why not combine eater and spire at that point

[dapper sundial]

cause they crouch

[feral minnow]

ur disappointed in me lol

[kind sierra]

Cus it was a dungeon

[dapper sundial]

it was a raid liar

[wanton halo]

I like to blame my aim but sometimes it feels like parts of their body bulge out past the crit area and get hit first

[feral minnow]

dont you mean spire and eater?

[dapper sundial]

lair whatever

[feral minnow]

basically dungeons

[kind sierra]

Only by name, not by gameplay

[somber snow]

Aka a 6 man dungeon

[charred yacht]

I have my dot literally inside the boss's chest and it just doesn't care

[frosty valve]

yeah

[dapper sundial]

yeah basically

[somber snow]

In terms of gameplay its a dungeon with extra steps

[alpine garnet]

https://twitter.com/design_snake/status/1803201749794079178

SnakeWithAHat (Jeff) (@Design_Snake) on X

Gm Excision

Twitter · Jun 18, 2024, 11:02 PM

[somber snow]

What if eater and spire come back as dungeons

[feral minnow]

woah, i wonder what raid truthtellers are like

[wanton halo]

Hot take: not every raid has to be the hardest thing in the game and also not every raid needs to be inclusive to 3 year olds with autism

A healthy mix of easy and hard makes a good environment to learn

[frosty valve]

one raid only tells lies, while the other only tells the truth

[dapper sundial]

i have trauma related to that

[kind sierra]

No but from what you said im guessing you never played it?

[somber snow]

Name a single raid thats hard outside of day 1

[feral minnow]

what the

[iron sinew]

vog

[charred yacht]

lfg salvations edge 😰

[charred yacht]

TRUEE

[frosty valve]

the only challenge in vog imo is not falling asleep

[kind sierra]

Atheon is fun

[somber snow]

The only challenge is getting 5 blueberries to kill themselves so i can skip gorgons

[kind sierra]

And i like oracles cus its kinda relaxing lmao

[wanton halo]

Not personally hard to me bc I have like 40+ clears but vow gives players a run for their money because the mechanics are more complicated than other raids, I mean that in a positive way though

[feral minnow]

looking to be edged

[charred yacht]

all these new d2 kids have never experienced spire of stars smh

[kind sierra]

Im guessing you never played eater?

[frosty valve]

bitches call me salvation the way im edging

[wanton halo]

No, I started post-sunset

[charred yacht]

only the strongest will make it out

[feral minnow]

i have played every single destiny raid

[charred yacht]

😎

[sullen viper]

anyone know if spirit of galanor works on deadshot hunter ?

[iron sinew]

they need to make a raid where u have to stack money to start damage

[kind sierra]

Thought so, it was litterally a dungeon, warlords ruin is harder than eater of worlds

[somber snow]

Only one that is remotely hard is 3rd since everyone has to do something. 2nd has 2 ad clearers, 4th has atleast 2 as well, 1st can be done by nothing but the runners

[charred yacht]

why does bungie keep puting these random empty ghost scans everywhere

[iron sinew]

yes

[wanton halo]

I’ve played every single one available post-beyond-light

[frosty valve]

never did a full crown clear, i think i did only first and last encounter

[sullen viper]

really ? i cant seem to get any of the super energy return

[iron sinew]

it's pretty bad

[sullen viper]

ah ok, so just run orpheus instead. gotcha

[wanton halo]

Yes, that’s how you start to look at things after a lot of clears of it, nothing is going to stay hard after you’ve mastered it

[feral minnow]

i only have 1 or 2 crown clears :(
i got back into the game during arrivals and i didn't have the time to do more

[iron sinew]

wait are u talking about tether?

[charred yacht]

bungie hates giving me red borders for the area denial frame wtff

[feral minnow]

yes, deadshot shadowshot

[valid holly]

It sucks anyway

[charred yacht]

nuh uh

[wanton halo]

I have it crafted but I think they were too scared to make it hit very hard, I hope it gets a pve damage buff

[charred yacht]

soon

[iron sinew]

it's deadfall, thought he meant deadshot goldie

[charred yacht]

bungie is just waiting to buff it until I have it

bungie is also waiting to nerf euphony until I have it

[feral minnow]

wait, why did i say deadshot?

[valid holly]

Unless it can dps healthy targets it will stay bad

[feral minnow]

i am tired

[wanton halo]

It could be that it just wasn’t made for me but I don’t like euphony

[valid holly]

Adclear pools to kill 5 ads every 4sex when sunshot exists

[fickle rampart]

4sex

[charred yacht]

I think its only good on warlock or something idk

[iron sinew]

no cap i only use galanor tether in dual destiny

[feral minnow]

4sex

[valid holly]

4sex

[wanton halo]

It feels like collective obligation but instead of gatekeeping to a single subclass it’s a single subclass on a single class

[feral minnow]

i use galanor silence and squall

[sullen viper]

yeah sorry deadfall, the tether

[charred yacht]

tbh collective is only good on void hunter

[valid holly]

4sex is a rly long time for a destiny player

[charred yacht]

its actually a perfect comparison to euphony

[wanton halo]

It is, but even then I can’t justify using it over other void options

[kind sierra]

Btw @wanton halo this is why i want wrath over scourge, i love scourge but like....
https://youtu.be/ZnY6NggfvEo?si=XXhPfxmd16FFlcgA

[charred yacht]

except that euphony is just good

and collective is just bad

[wanton halo]

Collective holds up in pvp because of the stats but outside of that eh

I’d like to see it revisited for some sort of buff or rework

[charred yacht]

well obviously scourge is gonna get super reworked

[iron sinew]

i haven't watched a sweat video since beyond light and i wanna keep it that way

[charred yacht]

lfg scourge was so funny back then

every single lfg had 1 guy netlimiting

so funny

[wanton halo]

Maybe instead of siphoning debuffs you build up debuffs by getting kills with it

That would make it more viable off of void but still best on void

[charred yacht]

collective just needs to be able refresh the buff leech

[kind sierra]

Its more about the fact they did the entire raid in under 9 minutes

Which is why id want wrath back over scourge

[wanton halo]

Yeah, I mean it’s a void gun so why not give it the devour treatment, kills while it’s active extends duration

[charred yacht]

yea

[wanton halo]

Wait

[charred yacht]

I hate perks you cant refresh so much

[wanton halo]

Talking about this gun gave me a build idea for a split second then I remembered the rocket pistol that does it better

[tacit ledge]

the Drake funeral today was so fire

[wanton halo]

I need the catalyst for bloodline

[kind sierra]

Me laughing in prismatic build that gives me infinite devour

[elder viper]

hey quickl question does the first dual mission when u get the exotic class item drop it as a pinnacle drop?

[charred yacht]

I dont think so but idk

[wanton halo]

I don’t remember but I would bet on it doing so

If not it’s not a huge deal if it’s pinnacle anymore

[elder viper]

okay then i can reach max ahahahha

[thorn rover]

so happy hunter has good dps now

[brazen fern]

bungie did not cook with cysts

[charred yacht]

I just got the void shell from an bright engram guys so epic

[lunar plume]

FR

[charred yacht]

:P

[iron sinew]

moth cyst

[wanton halo]

I can accept Hunter having good dps if everyone else can have something at least remotely close so it’s not a Hunter-only meta

[thorn rover]

was a sweatshop getting to first knife ship

[brazen fern]

completing going fast will make me end up in a mental asylum

help

[ripe glade]

Low key kind of makes me really sad that hunters are now the better melee class… I thought that was titan’s identity lol.

[thorn rover]

moth cyst can go and guardian down

hate moth cyst

other ones cool

[charred yacht]

I am sure bungie will balance it all eventually

prismatic is still new

[keen eagle]

what dungeon is dropping high stats this week?

[thorn rover]

frost dodge melee on hunter so fire

[brisk iron]

Pit

[ripe glade]

Ty for your support guardian

[charred yacht]

lol

[keen eagle]

where does it even say high stat drops lol

but thanks

[charred yacht]

I need a ghost shell that does the solstice glow thing

[kind sierra]

They have for ages.....???

[wide ice]

Best Ergo Sum intrinsic?

[charred yacht]

wolfpack for sure

[wide ice]

the wolfpack rounds dont track very well

[charred yacht]

other exotic perks just seem like memes

[drowsy canopy]

pvp?

[wide ice]

pve

[reef coyote]

there's a zombie on your lawn

[drowsy canopy]

sorry was genuinely shocked, arc conductor is pretty good for ad clear, and unplanned reprieve is funny on aggr frame.

[lilac wraith]

skibibi

[reef coyote]

there's a zombie on your lawn

[wide ice]

Yeah, people seem to like the wolfpack one because of the team synergy though. I just think the little rockets don't track very good

[hot plinth]

apparently the wolfpacks are crazy with ppl running bequest, i think with relentless strikes u get like 112 lights

[drowsy canopy]

yea they're not too great outside of damage phases

[jolly musk]

did they really increase the hp of raid/dungeon bosses? Im getting evidance against it

[drowsy canopy]

haven't looked at ergo much, so I don't have anything to add.

[hot plinth]

i think its just cuz we are at max -5 below

[charred yacht]

I have pretty much every ergo sum sword combo they all feel pretty mid

[wide ice]

Why bequest specifically?

[reef coyote]

They did yeah

[brisk verge]

Bequest never ran out of ammo already

[spiral grove]

remember when synthos stacked with pyrogale burning maul lmao

[wide ice]

How do you stack synthos with pyro?

[hot plinth]

relentless surrounded or something

[spiral grove]

it was a bug you could has pyro maul then swap to synthos and it would take the bonus damage it has been fixed

[charred yacht]

everyone seems to just gloss over that the wolfpacks gives all the swords more damage lol

[wide ice]

Isn't it better to have a lightweight frame to spam the wolfpacks better?

[spiral grove]

yeah

[charred yacht]

the heavy attack on ergo doesnt make wolfpacks on lightframes for whatever reason

my brain

same is for aggressives too

[reef coyote]

Thank god the actual sword is doing the damage not the wolfpacks 😭

[hot plinth]

idk ive just seen it with relentless bequest

[charred yacht]

legendary aggressive swords are just bugged with wolfpacks and dont make any for whatever reason

[drowsy canopy]

very lame, was also having that happen occasionally w/ old swords (specifically "it stared back")

[eager path]

[wind bronze]

bungie hate titan so no wolfpack! 😡

[wide ice]

But if you're gonna use a sword for DPS why not just use Lament?

[blissful scaffold]

In short, just use tractor then dps with shotgun or fusion

[jolly musk]

well acording to my footage they did not

[reef coyote]

Because it is exotic and sucks

[charred yacht]

it stared back is just adaptive it should make wolfpacks?

[reef coyote]

Ok well according to real testing they did

[dapper sundial]

so lament sucks?

[jolly musk]

nah lmao

[drowsy canopy]

yea but it wasn't like a week back during solar surge salvations
no idea why

[wide ice]

So you're about to tell me that Bequest does more DPS than Lament?

[reef coyote]

lament sucks it is only good for solar surge

[jolly musk]

increasing the hp doesnt equal doing less dmg

[reef coyote]

Yes? always has

[jolly musk]

no lol

[reef coyote]

You are minus 5 light

[charred yacht]

old lament 😭

[jolly musk]

you cant read questions lil bro

[reef coyote]

u can't lil bro me

[jolly musk]

i just did

[wide ice]

Is there a video proving this anywhere? @reef coyote Something to... idk, prove it?

[jolly musk]

tiney ant man

[wind bronze]

r u gonna take that

[reef coyote]

Dude surrounded buff does more than lament does

[jolly musk]

I have video evidance against that too

[jolly musk]

surrounded good until it is not due to teammates

youre downplaying lament so much omg

[charred yacht]

I mean its pretty obvious if you have done any crota lfgs bequest just does more

[drowsy canopy]

i mean lament is also just ass now after getting another nerf

[wanton halo]

Surrounded objectively boosts the dps to that of higher than lament, that being said it’s extremely conditional

Consistency vs gambling

[jolly musk]

u cant even kill riven with lament now without surge

[reef coyote]

it does less damage than a lot of swords

[spiral grove]

when will people realize that the destiny meta is so simple

[jolly musk]

neever

[reef coyote]

I mean she has 11m health now

[jolly musk]

hp is the same

[dapper sundial]

surrounded bequest is lameeee whirlwind aggressive frame is where its at

[reef coyote]

it is not she only had 3? mil last season

[wide ice]

Tooltip says that this 35% damage increase lasts 1.5s after being surrounded. In the very few instances where you use swords for DPS. Which ones actually have you surrounded?

[valid holly]

I love misinformation

[jolly musk]

me too

[wanton halo]

A sword can only get so unique and fun, that’s why lament is liked

[reef coyote]

crota

[jolly musk]

if she had 3 mil a single guardian would always kill her

[wanton halo]

It’s not just swinging, there’s a combo

[reef coyote]

The main one you use swords on

[valid holly]

The last wish bosse have 3.3x health now

[spiral grove]

well bequest is trash F tier cause worldline objectively has higher total damage and dps with better ammo econ too

[reef coyote]

Yeah? they usually did

[valid holly]

But u also do like 2.5x more dmg

[abstract spoke]

So im running the cysts for the khov and i can't get the bird to spawn in the impasse to invert the cysts, Any ideas? 6/6 completed everything, its just not there for some reason

[wide ice]

And you're saying that this thing can put out more DPS than Lament considering a fully charged attack and within the DPS window for Crota?

[jolly musk]

this troll right here

[wanton halo]

Bait used to be believable you monster

[charred yacht]

I mean bequest also clears lament cuz it can have wolfpacks and lament cant

[reef coyote]

More damage does more damage

[charred yacht]

gap has only widened

[wanton halo]

Yes, surrounded is easy to keep up on crota as well

[reef coyote]

Solo riven was easy as hell lmao

[wide ice]

Dude is defending just the bare sword itself

[wind bronze]

bequest is trash F tier because i dont like katanas

[charred yacht]

I mean people have always said bequest is better on crota

[spiral grove]

yeah ill just keep on one-phasing herald without arc surge

[charred yacht]

i am dumb

[wide ice]

More damage is an estimation. Where is proof? Has anyone parsed numbers?

Something? Aztecross? Rick Khakis? Someone?

[wanton halo]

Yes multiple times

[spiral grove]

mfw the meta is just the best option

[reef coyote]

It is not an estimation when numbers are bigger they are bigger

[valid holly]

Atzecross 😭💀

[jolly musk]

3 mil is what a normal not cheesing guardian can do

[vapid tapir]

guys how do i get the threaded spike melee for prismatic hunter?

[reef coyote]

Maybe for you not for me

[jolly musk]

without 12p stacking or anything

[charred yacht]

just go watch crota speedrun or something they all use bequest on crota

[jolly musk]

u dont even know the dmg numbers lil guy

[wind bronze]

oooo

[jolly musk]

idk lol

[valid holly]

@jolly musk how would u feel if u were wrong the entire time

[reef coyote]

11 million health points on the taken ahamkara boss in the last wish raid. it used to be 3 million

[native vale]

is getting 13 minute runs on dual destiny while duping impressive ?

[dapper sundial]

"taken ahamkara boss" lol

[celest gale]

jesus christ this game is buggier than ever

[wanton halo]

Aight Nevermind then no video link for you

[charred yacht]

the health changes probably vary boss to boss idk what you tested on

[valid holly]

3.3x on every last wish boss

[wind bronze]

warlords ruin

[wide ice]

I mean you guys are kinda blowing this sword up a bit much. It did slightly better than lament by like 2-3 ticks of damage

[valid holly]

And u deal about 2.5x more now in last wish

[wanton halo]

Now which one is going to run out of ammo faster and which one gives you an exotic slot

[drowsy canopy]

where in the world are those numbers from

[wanton halo]

Also btw those numbers were pre-lament-nerf

So the gap is bigger

[valid holly]

1. This is most likly not healthbar measured (bequest does even a bit more healthbar dmg) 2. Lament got nerfed 3m this is without wolfpacks 4. Lament is exotic and still worse

L

[ivory stratus]

Adaptives do chunk damage

[wanton halo]

Not to mention the ammo economy of both

[reef coyote]

Wdym you do more damage are you talking about transcendant mods

[valid holly]

More health

[ivory stratus]

Old wish had lower numbers

[wide ice]

Y'all deflecting so much like yeh if the sword is better it's better, I just asked where I can find proof

[valid holly]

More dmg

[wanton halo]

Lament still wins in my heart for the fun value of it but I know how to be objective and say that bequest performs better when you can keep surrounded

[ivory stratus]

It got brought up to standard

[wind bronze]

only game where a chainsaw sword deals significantly less damage than a fedora enthusiast's blade of choice please just kill me now

[ivory stratus]

Instead of forsaken damage numbers

[reef coyote]

true

[wanton halo]

While requesting the proof and after receiving the proof you were downplaying bequest and denying that lament is worse

You forgot that part

[ivory stratus]

Crownsplitter sweep zzz

[wide ice]

When did I say that? I was just skeptical that a random legendary sword can outdo Lament. Don't put words in my mouth boy

[wanton halo]

“Boy” 😭

[spiral grove]

dont put words in my mouth boy

[granite inlet]

Hi all, whats a good sniper rifle to get in secondary slot? Can be exotic or non-exotic.

[wanton halo]

I don’t want me or my boy anywhere near your mouth bro

[wide ice]

You act like one bro, nobody was tryna argue until you acted up

[vapid tapir]

still hunt is amazing

[wanton halo]

This question was made for still hunt

[granite inlet]

Thanks! 😄

[spiral grove]

1. STILLHUNT 2. STILL HUNT 3. embraced identity

[valid holly]

Wtf is embraced identity

[wanton halo]

Bonus points if you’re a hunter bc it has a synergy with celestial

[wind bronze]

the destination sniper

[reef coyote]

Bro made up a sniper

[charred yacht]

new void sniper

[valid holly]

Dawg

[wanton halo]

All I did was say that you were absolutely denying that bequest was better when you said that you weren’t

[spiral grove]

just the best legendary energy sniper 😭

[granite inlet]

What rolls would I be looking for on Embraced Identity? PVE player.

[valid holly]

The automod doesn't allow me to describe how bad it is

[ivory stratus]

It's horrible

Recon fttc 👽

[reef coyote]

You said embraced identity not distant tumulus lol

[spiral grove]

wtf???? how long have you been playing this game

[wanton halo]

Try “dog ass”

[valid holly]

💀

[spiral grove]

im convinced someone of you dont even know what makes a good weapon anymore

[raven token]

transgender rifle is my fav

[reef coyote]

do you?

[wide ice]

Scrolling up to find the alleged part where I denied it, because I met it with skepticism and asked for proof

[valid holly]

Bro did not just say that to me

[ivory stratus]

Nothing because it's bad

[spiral grove]

the last city has fallen billions must die

[reef coyote]

What does embraced identity even have on it

[ivory stratus]

😭

[reef coyote]

What frame is it first of all

[raven token]

adaptive void

[spiral grove]

adaptive

[drowsy canopy]

its ass

[valid holly]

Agressiv😭😭

[ivory stratus]

A 90 with like bad perks

[reef coyote]

Yeah it sucks

[valid holly]

Or adaptive

[ivory stratus]

https:// www. light .gg/db/items/2821677368/embraced-identity/

[wind bronze]

ip grabber

[valid holly]

Doesn't matter at that point

[reef coyote]

don't matter it isn't rapid fire it sucks

[ivory stratus]

Yeah bro?

[wind bronze]

yeah

[charred yacht]

i mean the new sniper is the best void sniper

dont have many options

[ivory stratus]

Not even close?????

[reef coyote]

distant tumulus still remains the best sniper i fear

[valid holly]

Best void ≠ best energy sniper

[ivory stratus]

Fugue and fathers sins are both way better

[charred yacht]

no lol??

[raven token]

father's sins????

[ivory stratus]

Yes 💀

[spiral grove]

yeah let me just put on vorpal weapon on my special ewapon

[wind bronze]

dead orbit propaganda

[ivory stratus]

?????

[raven token]

the wq sniper with like 0 modern perks?

[spiral grove]

you guys are insane

[wanton halo]

^, there’s also “more damage is an estimation” and then after you were given your outdated proof (the up-to-date gap is wider) you still downplayed bequest

[ivory stratus]

It's literally void ikelos sr

[raven token]

are we running triple tap focused fury?

[valid holly]

Father's sins is only bettet in a triple swap dps roation

[charred yacht]

fugue is probably better fathers sins is definitely not

[reef coyote]

it is an adaptive frame sniper lol it is bad

[spiral grove]

im in a crazy room are you guys warframe players

[wanton halo]

I refuse to use a sniper my aim is donkey balls

[ivory stratus]

It's certainly better than a 90 with precision instrument

[oak fulcrum]

Anyone wanna spoils farm?

[wind bronze]

who is the father and why is his sins a sniper

[wide ice]

Nobody gave me proof, I got a bunch of children whining at me because their favorite toy was being questioned. I had to look it up myself.

Also that statement you quoted was to answer someone because they were counting wolfpack rounds into the equation. @wanton halo

[spiral grove]

when is the last time you used a gun in destiny 2

[wanton halo]

Yeah because Wolfpack rounds are a factor as to why it’s better

[spiral grove]

its not the first game its okay to make that mistake its the second one the sequel

[reef coyote]

I don't think i've ever used an adaptive sniper lol they suck

[ivory stratus]

What roll is so "godly" on this random ass sniper man

[dire lichen]

elden ring trailer is PEAK

[valid holly]

@spiral grove pls click on my profile and scroll down and click on the YouTube symbol

[ivory stratus]

Don't say recon fttc.

[wanton halo]

The ammo is better than lament, the damage is better than lament, it doesn’t take up an exotic slot like lament and can get Wolfpack rounds unlike lament

[wide ice]

The root of the argument that you're completely oblivious to (understandably) was that a guy told me Bequest did more damage without wolfpacks than Lament.

[spiral grove]

lmfao

[wanton halo]

That’s also true

You don’t need all the other great things I listed to be better, it’s just that good

[reef coyote]

clown cart firing line on a rapid fire is better than whatever that sniper gets not going to lie

[wide ice]

I asked him for proof to back up his statements instead of just "trust me bro" - and then y'all had to chime in as if you were being offended in secondhand because I questioned your toy

[charred yacht]

for some reason I thought precision instrument was a better perk nevermind

[spiral grove]

firing line

[drowsy canopy]

whats wrong with firing line

[reef coyote]

On a rapid fire

[spiral grove]

rapid fire

[valid holly]

I think u guys need to decide if u want a sniper for dps or general gameplay

[dire lichen]

isn’t clown firing the top roll for speeds in the case of snipers?

[wanton halo]

Firing line is okay but I don’t like perks that require you to go out of your way with positioning to proc

[wide ice]

Here's 5000 glimmer since you did your due diligence and decided to attack someone who was trying to figure out why tf a legendary sword was better than his favorite sword exotic.

[reef coyote]

it's one of the only snipers worth using lmao

[wanton halo]

Make it ten

[dire lichen]

it can’t be that serious.

[spiral grove]

firing line only does 10% ever since season of the seraph

dont you guys remember

[dire lichen]

i thought firing line did way more than 10???

[charred yacht]

?

[drowsy canopy]

i love misinformation

[tacit ledge]

Diablo 4 intro is worse than D2 intro holy

[reef coyote]

does 20

[valid holly]

Me when I spread misinformation on the internet

[wanton halo]

I don’t think it was nerfed but there’s just better perks now that don’t need allies

[valid holly]

🤔

[bitter hollow]

wasn’t it like only nerfed on heavies

[wanton halo]

It wasn’t nerfed at all

[reef coyote]

or is it 25 i need to check

[wide ice]

It wasn't until they made a big deal out of it

[bitter hollow]

it used to be 25

[charred yacht]

its 20

[drowsy canopy]

also you're rarely going out of your way with firing line. everyone still stands in the same well for most fights.
and like what other dmg perks are there

[dire lichen]

it’s 20

[wanton halo]

Firing line is 20% no matter what weapon

[bitter hollow]

bns is technically better but firing line has no setup

[wanton halo]

I don’t want to craft a second version of the same gun for when I play alone

[bitter hollow]

also bns is gonna get nerfed

[dire lichen]

bns and kinetic tremors

[valid holly]

Ok so find me the bns rapid fire sniper

[spiral grove]

lmao

[wanton halo]

Especially when most guns with firing line have an easier perk to proc that gives more damage

[dire lichen]

? bns already got nerfed

[valid holly]

Energy

[wide ice]

Confirmed or speculation?

[bitter hollow]

ah rapid fire sniper?

[wanton halo]

Reduced to 30%

[ivory stratus]

I have 5 apex preds

[spiral grove]

fact checked this it only does 10

[bitter hollow]

nah that was vorpal my bad

[charred yacht]

you can use ikelos take it or leave it

[wanton halo]

I have 2 because society isn’t ready for my 4x rockets

[dire lichen]

destiny players when they spread misinformation on the internet:

[valid holly]

Pls stop replying to me u seems to have no clue what I'm saying

[spiral grove]

no youre right

[reef coyote]

ok i was right it does 20 lol

[wide ice]

Does FILO still drop nowadays?

[charred yacht]

no

[spiral grove]

the wave frame?

[charred yacht]

slug

[wide ice]

Slug shotty

[dire lichen]

iirc the best energy pick is still distant tumulus with clown and firing right?

[reef coyote]

also none of the better perks are on a rapid fire 😄

[reef coyote]

yeah

[bitter hollow]

ppl out here saying you need kinetic tremors on your energy sniper and im the one whos stupid

[charred yacht]

we pray for banshee 🙏

[ivory stratus]

Guys crux termination is truly best in slot heavy 👽

[dire lichen]

ikelos is still fine

[wide ice]

So you're still hammered and have to use Duality for a double slug build?

[valid holly]

Littarly No one said that

[spiral grove]

its a wave frame

[charred yacht]

I know :P

[spiral grove]

no youre right

its a slug

[charred yacht]

lol

[reef coyote]

Nessas obligation exists

[valid holly]

😭

[dire lichen]

for lfg salvation’s all you need is a decent bequest and sleeper or levis unless you’re on hunter :trolling:

[charred yacht]

nessas is epic why does everyone hate it

[spiral grove]

i used 4th horseman

[dire lichen]

never understood why people tried to optimize dps so much when mfs are always 2 phasing anyways

[bitter hollow]

microcosm works

[charred yacht]

its the same as heritage basically

[valid holly]

Its not

[dire lichen]

realest tech ever :gatomisterioso:

[bitter hollow]

people need to stop complaining, anything will get you a two phase these days

[wide ice]

Oblation, they really were out to get you guys over that word lmao. And yeah that works actually, arguably better than FILO because of Tractor

[spiral grove]

with rain of fire

[charred yacht]

zorpal weapon gamers are in

[dire lichen]

oh i thought you were talking abt the fourth horseman glitch

[wide ice]

Isn't Frenzy on Nessa better than Vorp?

[bitter hollow]

didn’t they patch that a few days ago

[reef coyote]

yes

[dire lichen]

oh fr?

[bitter hollow]

100th horseman

[spiral grove]

nessa's actually has intrinsic against tormentors because of its origin trait so its great against breaking tormentors

[ivory stratus]

@valid holly have you tried solo herald yet

[charred yacht]

oh i didnt even realize it gets frenzy

[spiral grove]

nope

[charred yacht]

that intrinsic is annoying to use

[valid holly]

I'm not going to sleep for 30min

[ivory stratus]

💀

[spiral grove]

nessa's is permanent 15 against the enemies you were going to use it on anyway

i mean ovrpal

[wide ice]

Frenzy gives 100 reload

[spiral grove]

i need to take mymedication

[spiral grove]

recon?

[valid holly]

And I'm defnitly not going to study OOBnomics to sleep for 45min in 3rd

[spiral grove]

i NEVER reload my nessa's thats bad voodoo

[ivory stratus]

3rd just looked painful icl

[wide ice]

True

Are Adept weapons arguably better for PVE nowadays after they removed Big Ones Spec? vs. Crafted I mean

[ivory stratus]

I was gonna try herald until I saw ziran's clear was like 40 minutes

[dire lichen]

the difference is minimal

[eager path]

we should assemble a team of friends to do a sub 40 run of the salvations edge incursion

[wide ice]

Yeah I just realized crafted would be king again for PVE since Adept specs aren't that big unless for PVP

[dire lichen]

99% of enhanced perks are like “increase reload speed by 5” or add an extra second to buff time

[valid holly]

And the only hard part is at the end

[eager path]

but instead thats just not going to happen

[dire lichen]

i know enhanced incan and demo are really good

[ivory stratus]

I've yet to finish the raid lmao

[valid holly]

Gg fun

[reef coyote]

Day one was a while ago ain't nobody gaf about no salvations edge

[ivory stratus]

Wonderful

[winged owl]

[ivory stratus]

30 minute side quest 🔥

[dire lichen]

i hop on do witness cps hop off that raid is actually painful

[dire lichen]

literally can’t play with lfg anymore

[echo turret]

Imagine if ghost has a ghost sweeper shell… like mine sweeper but ghost edition.