💬destiny-chat

[plain jacinth]

Huhhh

[bitter hollow]

damn

[upbeat quarry]

😭

[tired reef]

NIGGGER

[long mirage]

WHATTTTTT

[bitter hollow]

that came outta nowhere

[thorn rover]

bro

[plain jacinth]

Aintnoway

[tired reef]

NIGGGER

[long mirage]

bro lost in trials

[upbeat quarry]

buddy didnt get sub 30 se

[tired reef]

som like that

[bitter hollow]

damn a dreg taunted bro

[tacit river]

NA gamer moment

[long mirage]

shax personally shittalked him

[amber arrow]

idk, my clan leader has been having a great time with it

[bright tartan]

me when i dont get a pinnacle chestpiece 5 times in a row

[plain jacinth]

joined a month ago

[bright tartan]

its whatever

[echo turret]

Skissue

[long mirage]

i lowkey need a clan...

[iron sinew]

wait im goated

[tired reef]

u eat dogs

[plain jacinth]

Actually it'd be really funny if they were here since like 2019

[bright tartan]

stasis is still super underrated and very good in hard content, prismatic stasis doesnt hold a candle to it

[long mirage]

oh btw is ambitious assasin chain reaction good on the forbearance?

[echo turret]

Hotdogs.

[long mirage]

its a wave gl

[bitter hollow]

yeah

[long mirage]

okay imma keep it then

[plain jacinth]

Calm down (me next, me next!!!)

[bright tartan]

bleakwatchers dont really do much without the fragments and iceflare to back them up

[bitter hollow]

bruh thats like the god roll on the best wave frame keep that

[echo turret]

Prepare to die from cringe

[long mirage]

i also got kinetic tremors explosive payload on midnight coup that same run

im eating pretty good icl

[bitter hollow]

ehhh its kinetic so idrc but thats a nice roll still

[long mirage]

yeah its really good for damage apparently

[plain jacinth]

Best wave frame? That's a weird way of spelling the nightfall wave launcher

It gets voltshot

[elfin pagoda]

waht channel for 12 man GM?

[bitter hollow]

that one is also good

[long mirage]

what mod should i put on a wave gl

[iron sinew]

holy mid

[amber arrow]

i assume the iceflare tradeoff is for Feed the Void and a better super

[bright tartan]

voltshot i sleep

[bitter hollow]

forb is better for trash ads volt is better for champs

[plain jacinth]

Probably the swap one

[long mirage]

quick acces sling?

[bright tartan]

i dont get why reddit loves voltshot

[long mirage]

gotcha

[upbeat quarry]

turrets dont do anything for getaway artist anyway

[iron sinew]

wave frame for champs zzzzz

[long mirage]

i got 90 velocity on this gl too

[bitter hollow]

I guess voltshot wave frame is good on SE first with the overloads mixed in there

[bright tartan]

guys whats better, a jolt effect that works on kills, or an aoe nuke that works all the time

[viscid tusk]

Where are the raids rooms now, cant find them

[upbeat quarry]

hc and gjally:

[plain jacinth]

It gets your nade energy back and provides supplemental damage + crowd control vis stunning...

[bright tartan]

the chain reaction in question

[iron sinew]

both work on kills wym

[upbeat quarry]

bleak doesnt do sht for nade energy

[late vine]

i mustve literally dissociated when i first played LF cuz im doing the campaign on my Hunter and i cant stand how insufferable Osiris is 💀

[bright tartan]

voltshot has to reload to work

[plain jacinth]

Getaway artist for the energy you trog

[bright tartan]

so you get a kill, reload, voltshot

chain reaction you just kill 1 ad and the rest explode

[bitter hollow]

^

[upbeat quarry]

i was specifically talking abt bleak there

[bitter hollow]

id rather have CR

[plain jacinth]

And when are you not killing with a wave frame, unless you're shooting at ultras?

[bright tartan]

i dont want to have to shoot twice

[shadow jackal]

hello sigma

[echo turret]

Knife to a gun fight is extremely effective. Especially when you run out of bb pellets.

[upbeat quarry]

hi chalice

[willow grotto]

also reminder that voltshot stuns overloads AND if you stick it on a chonky enemy, it procs multiple times

[shadow jackal]

hru on this blessed 90* day

[bright tartan]

everything stuns overloads

they suck

[upbeat quarry]

got a headache thats been here since yesterday and a final in 3 hours hbu

[bitter hollow]

everything stuns unstops as well

[willow grotto]

u sure about that? Go kill an overload in master or grandmaster with just a rocket launcher

[long mirage]

im cleaning up my vault rn 🔥

[willow grotto]

literally nothing else

[bitter hollow]

the only champs you need a loadout for are barriers ngl

[bright tartan]

i just shoot them with chill clip and they stun

or suppress with grenade

[upbeat quarry]

god i miss last season

[bright tartan]

or hand cannon

[willow grotto]

ah, then it's not EVERYTHING, just select things which include voltshot

[bright tartan]

yeah but those things dont require a kill and reload

[upbeat quarry]

gjally oneshotting every overload 😫

[willow grotto]

which again, chains lightning to nearby enemies the moment you stick it to a champion, multiple times

[bright tartan]

if voltshot has 1 hater its me

[echo turret]

laughs in stasis

[iron sinew]

overload rocket 😔

[thorn rover]

this gotta be bait

[bitter hollow]

what abt on the bow

[bright tartan]

idk i dont have it

[bitter hollow]

its good

especially w the ionic traces on jolted kills

[devout flax]

voltshot bow is just trinity ghoul without using an exotic slot

[bitter hollow]

first arc weapon ive considered using in a while

[sweet shoal]

what are the best weapons for arc stasis surge salvations edge boss dps?

[bright tartan]

you know what is better than that

[bitter hollow]

whatever you used before arc is ass

[bright tartan]

delicate tomb

[amber arrow]

i'm probably gonna use stormchaser this week

[bright tartan]

delicate tomb is so goated

[bright tartan]

the new linear is good

[bitter hollow]

I guess you could grand ouverture then hotswap to cloudstrike or sm freaky like that

[iron sinew]

yk what's better than that
indebted kindness

[bright tartan]

it can get clown cartridge bns

[echo turret]

Killed myself with kvhostov. Bounced a bullet and headshot myself.

[sweet shoal]

whats the name?

[devout flax]

line in the sand

[bright tartan]

its the season of the dawn linear

[bitter hollow]

me when I try to use sleeper for the first time in 3 years

[bright tartan]

it can also get demo bns so you may never have to reload if youre on prismatic

[devout flax]

i still have my old line in the sand with rapid hit firing line lol

[echo turret]

Me when I eat noodle alittle too hard, and they go down wrong pipe.

[bitter hollow]

hmmm with weaken being 35% I see potential here

[sweet shoal]

oh okk

[muted warren]

how do i create a support ticket for something in game?

[plain jacinth]

ergo sum caty anything special?

[sweet shoal]

thunderlord still good?

[bright tartan]

yea its decent

[iron sinew]

when you vault it

[bright tartan]

idk you might have to move around too much during witness for it to be great

thats why people use sleeper because you can just hipfire it while dodging

[brazen fern]

isnt weaken 30%

or am i tripping

[bitter hollow]

with expanding abyss its 35

[brazen fern]

oh right expanding abyss

[sweet shoal]

what are the most common debuff for witness? just div?

[bitter hollow]

I always forget

is it void weapons only

or void debuffs only

[brazen fern]

void damage sources only

[bitter hollow]

damn

[brazen fern]

narrows down your options

[bitter hollow]

so specific

[brazen fern]

you basically only have edge and levi

[river herald]

💀

[fervent veldt]

dealing damage with a transcendence nade gives it ammo

[quick talon]

ive been playing nothing but titan, but i need help choosing between the other two to play next

[fervent veldt]

also side note but im kinda sorta liking verglas on osmiomancy

[naive blade]

that fourth encounter triumph for edging raid sucked

[bright tartan]

manticore

[weak python]

does your power level get matched with the fireteam leader even in nightfalls?

[tardy forge]

whats the godroll for lost signal? auto loading reverberation?

[grim oracle]

Can you get a 2 mobikity pair of necrotic grips, I know some exotics are destined to have a high stat, idk which one it is on necrotic though

[red bloom]

@ripe quail

[devout flax]

you will always have 5 under the power leader

[sturdy needle]

has anyone tested if the new warlock exotic helmet can spawn both a healing and freezing turret with prismatic? I chose the other exotic after completing the campaign so i cant test

[bitter hollow]

yep

we did it in chat

[shadow jackal]

whoever’s highest power

[naive blade]

as did we

[bitter hollow]

its pain

[naive blade]

now i just gotta do witness challenge and ive done em all

[devout flax]

you have to throw your grenade for the healing turret, not consume it

[sturdy needle]

ah okay wasnt sure, thanks!

it would be funny if it worked tho

[devout flax]

yea i would rather have that over getaway artist if I could

[placid cloud]

chat come do co-op iconoclasm with me 2x times for my GR 🙂

i will not take no as an answer

[ripe quail]

👋

[ancient steeple]

Anyone know if the new Grid message on Nessus unlocks anything new or for standard Enigma?

[wanton halo]

Now that fireteam power is a thing, i can use fotl masks and not be trolling :O

[ancient steeple]

"Tangled between Fissure and Dust
rise above the growth"

This is different from last week, no?

[devout flax]

i forgot ab these

[bright tartan]

okay superficial criticisms aside why are exotic quests so bad in d2

[naive folio]

Yee, someone had the traveler mask and a traveler ghost in the 4th encounter in the raid I did last week. Was actually a valid strat lol.

[red bloom]

u think that dono role sniff gave me like 5 years ago is still valid ⁉️

[bright tartan]

like i feel like after shadowkeep they just stopped doing good exotic quests and they basically just give them to you now

[naive blade]

dual destiny is great

[bright tartan]

i miss d1 early d2 exotic quests where they were like, either very well hidden or grindy, or both

[long mirage]

drop ANOTHER THORN OR LAST WORD QUEST!

[bright tartan]

ok they did cook with dual destiny

[bright tartan]

REAL

[long mirage]

the last word quest on controller was HELL

but it was so WORTH it

[devout flax]

yeah i agree

[bright tartan]

i feel like its just so much more meaningful after you grind for hours and you get the exotic rather than doing a short easy quest and you just get it

[devout flax]

i remember grinding out forsaken and prior exotics out for soo long

[dreamy venture]

The new economy sucks. I've been completely glimmer broke since the start of the expansion... Is it just me or is anyone else in glimmer poverty??

[livid horizon]

GM excision is buggy, disconnects people 50% of the time and shouldnt be celebrated.

[bright tartan]

i liked collecting all the hidden siva stuff in d1 to get sleeper simulant

[trail citrus]

only on the crappy old consoles that bungie is forced to keep supporting

[bright tartan]

now theyre just like "uhhh here level 1 battle pass you get red death, enjoy"

[long mirage]

zero hour was also pretty good

[livid horizon]

Playing on PC. Still laggy and disconnects.

[rich dagger]

we gaming tonight?

[trail citrus]

crappy pc

[limber topaz]

lmao

[bright tartan]

even the sleeper simulant quest in d2 was pretty cool

[limber topaz]

outbreak cooked witness GM

[long mirage]

i forgot when outbreak came out in d2

[bright tartan]

getting kills with all the ikelos weapons

[long mirage]

what season was it

[devout flax]

yeah when you had to go to the farm and talk to mithrax

[bright tartan]

bungie is afraid to hide stuff now

[long mirage]

yeah all the old exotic missions were so cool

[naive folio]

Parasite? I’d prefer story driven quests than d1 exotic swords and touch of malice

[long mirage]

PUSSIES!

[weary imp]

Any news on how to get the 17th mote for Khvostov?

[umbral harness]

anybody know if i can still get the rose in this season or no?

[bright tartan]

like whisper was basically a completely hidden area you could easily miss

[devout flax]

bastion was super cool too

[bright tartan]

now the "hidden" exotic quests have markers directing you to where they are

[devout flax]

whole week long community driven puzzle

[steel field]

is there any way to use the LFG finder to find a group for Overthrow?

[trail citrus]

He says as we literally had the entirety of Node.Ovrd.Avalon hidden in addition to Dual Destiny lol

[bright tartan]

i want grindier exotic quests tbh

i want to work for it

[trail citrus]

oh and Wetstone but thats gone now

[ornate moss]

Still Hunt should have been hard to get considering how broken it is atm

[trail citrus]

Kvhostov got u covered

[bright tartan]

thorn is a lot more rewarding when you had to get like 20 billion void hc kills in pvp, now you just get it from the kiosk for free

[ripe glade]

When will gotd be the featured dungeon?

[weary imp]

last mote not dropping for me

[bright tartan]

khvostov quest was also pretty good to be fair

[ornate moss]

The lumina quest was fun as well

[bright tartan]

that one took people like 4-5 days to figure out

true !

also in d1, the exotic sword quests were super fun

[trail citrus]

do the blooming a couple more times if youre sure the meatball is your last boss, it can be finnickey and take a couple tries to actually drop

[ornate moss]

Now lumina is outperformed by No Hesitation in every way though

[bright tartan]

like the dark drinker quest where you had to kill bosses in a strike at the same time

[weary imp]

so even after you kill meatball its rng?

[devout flax]

i still havent finished malfeasance lol

[ripe quail]

Good fkin question no idea

[ripe glade]

I’m excited to get khovstov

[bright tartan]

what was the really egregious exotic quest where you just went to a pvp map and interacted with some things and they handed you the exotic

[weary imp]

because i just killed the meatball

[ornate moss]

Wasn’t malfeasence like that or am I tripping

[trail citrus]

nah I think its just still a little bugged, they had to change it from being a physical mote you pick up that autoconverts at 17 into a system where once you would have gotten the last mote-->

<--it autoconverts into an inventory thing

[weary imp]

yeah it didnt

so i guess rip

[bright tartan]

no malfeasance was gambit

[trail citrus]

yeah I had to kill meatball twice b4 it dropped for me

[weary imp]

oh okay, so there's a chance if i kill it again, ok

[dire lichen]

ok but why are people talking about suing bungie over dual destiny

[devout flax]

i miss being forced to grind gambit

i haven't had a reason to play it again

[uncut juniper]

No one's doing that

[trail citrus]

yes!

[weary imp]

thank you 🙏

[iron dome]

wow the lowest difficulty nightfalls give basically no rewards. I get this is a normal strike with champs but still

[frank stirrup]

dude gm excision is terrible its so laggy
Region

[bright grotto]

You can change your region with the /region command. Must be performed in one of the text channels.

[ornate moss]

Idk that quest is fun as hell

[noble lake]

i am

[naive pier]

you got to do it a few times, took me like 9 or 10 kills to get the mote from the meatball. RNG was not on my side

[iron dome]

lmao what

[uncut juniper]

Go to sleep

[iron dome]

that's so silly. and would never hold up in court

[trail citrus]

yeah twitter is a cesspool blablabla, but I have definitely seen people like OUTRAGED over it on there

[noble lake]

just woke up

[iron dome]

"your honour I have no friends"

[trail citrus]

sleep again its nice

[uncut juniper]

Demon time

[noble lake]

im nocturnal

[ornate moss]

Probably because they don’t want to socialise even for a single second but also want the op class item for their godlike hunter builds

[uncut juniper]

Waking up at 3am is wild

[bright tartan]

oh it was devils ruin

[noble lake]

i slept at 6pm

[uncut juniper]

Same that's why I'm going to sleep soon

[keen panther]

khvostov was grindy as hell

[bright tartan]

yeah the devils ruin quest was inexcusable, they just completely phoned it in

[iron dome]

I did it and I have voice dysphoria, granted it was with one of few people I don't collapse with when I talk to them but still

[ornate moss]

Devils ruin is a menace

[willow grotto]

FINALLY GOT IT, GOD DAMN

[devout flax]

idk why people are upset over dual destiny just lfg its not that bad

[iron dome]

devils ruin is awesome though, I wish they let it scorch up to an ignition

[willow grotto]

now i just need them to fix the ghost track so we can actually earn his shader

[devout flax]

ive lfg'd with over 20 diff people for the mission and its always been fine

[rugged flume]

Do surges rotate daily or weekly?

[trail citrus]

nah cuz ive lfged it twice now (once even using the ingame Fireteam Finder) and they were chill af both times

[noble lake]

because there are legit solo only players that dont want to interact with another human being for 30 mins

[willow grotto]

and i'll have the transcendent title

[noble lake]

weekly

[trail citrus]

weekly, thats why people hate them so much

[rugged flume]

That's so dumb

[plain jacinth]

i was one of the people bitching about dual destiny but i finally cracked and lfg'd; it was okay

[ornate moss]

I just wish bungie would stop balancing stuff for pvp

[trail citrus]

it could take literal years to get the raid you want as the rotator with good surges to make it actually fun

[iron dome]

the raid/dungeon -5 stuff should really be limited to the weekly rotator

[plain jacinth]

tbh im just happy i can dad-patrol in pale heart for a chance of the drops now

[trail citrus]

do we have a good example of this even happening recetnyl?

[devout flax]

i think they need to make the rolls less rng dependent though

[naive pier]

oh yeah, how do we get the pale heart armour set? never got a single piece so idk if there's a mission I gotta do or something.

[uncut juniper]

Idk why dual destiny is such an issue when raids are a thing

[iron dome]

like what

[plain jacinth]

i think from micah?

[ornate moss]

Not recently maybe but Titan wall does absolutely nothing in PvE

[noble lake]

young ahamkara spine

[naive folio]

You don’t need surges to do a weekly raid

[iron dome]

so true, sue bungie for making raids

[iron dome]

over 6 months ago

get over it

[noble lake]

😭

[devout flax]

maybe a way where you can focus onto only 8/16 perks for the class item

[trail citrus]

then ur stuck doing -35% damage compared to b4

[naive pier]

that explains it, I only did the cysts and stopped there. guess you gotta find those ghosts in the other planets

[ornate moss]

Oh wait titan does nothing in PvE in general mb (excluding consecration which is boring af)

[iron dome]

you're playing a looter shooter

[noble lake]

according to who

[long mirage]

?

[noble lake]

i hate when people say titan is bad bro

[ornate moss]

According to most titan players

[iron dome]

reddit opinion

[long mirage]

truly

[trail citrus]

in endgame it objectively is

[iron dome]

LMAO NO.

[noble lake]

like all of twitter hage been crying for a week now since se launch

[long mirage]

i just got on titan this season and it feels amazing

[noble lake]

it really isnt

[polar patio]

Is a 1900 weapon too low for 1945 Raid? If my average level is 2005

[ornate moss]

Name one thing titan can do better than other classes

[iron dome]

no ACTUAL titan players are claiming titan is weak or does nothing

[devout flax]

understandable, but bungie has clearly shown their intention to move away from the complete rng nature of the game (crafting, focusing, etc)

[runic cliff]

just infuse it lol

[long mirage]

people complaining because the fragments on ascendant thingy dont have alot of synergy

[trail citrus]

theres a reason why less than 20 titans TOTAL cleared Day 1 salvations edge.

[placid cloud]

pistons fired HC 😠

[naive pier]

smack the ground with their supers

[iron dome]

I'm running a seriously endgame viable build that doesn't use consecration or knockout

[long mirage]

because still hunter does 2 million damage

[polar patio]

I just need an answer to that specific question (I know I can infuse)

[runic cliff]

no

[ornate moss]

I’m not saying weak I’m saying titan lacks any distinct identitu

[uncut juniper]

Because pro players typically run hunter or warlock

[shadow jackal]

800k*

[iron dome]

I'm basically immortal and preventing enemies from shooting at me

[iron dome]

no?

[trail citrus]

yes because theyre better

[iron dome]

titans are the palladins the barbarians

[shadow jackal]

oh shiver me timbers, clear an activity

[ornate moss]

What is titan’s identity then

[long mirage]

per shot or what

[noble lake]

i hate when people bring this up like it means anything, u do realise most teams had titans during every other enc and swapped at witness?

[naive folio]

Are you talking about not being over leveled in old raids before this dlc? It’s like doing the raids when they came out. We were over leveled and it was not how they were designed to be beaten.

[ornate moss]

What do paladins usually do in other rpgs?

[plain jacinth]

reads just like a clickbait youtuber title

[polar patio]

So the new light system where it brings levels up = I still need it within my artifact levels? Like 1933? If my artifact is like 12

[noble lake]

because hunter is better on just the witness fight for dps

[plain jacinth]

much cooler shjt than d2 titans ...

[iron dome]

they have a very clear identity. Palladin/barbarian, dps tank and minor support

[uncut juniper]

These players can clear it on titans also, but their play style is oriented to different classes

[ornate moss]

Not much of a dps if other 2 classes have better dps options

[shadow jackal]

hunters better in general

[iron dome]

titans can apply to themselves the most damage resist out of any of the classes and can give their teammates a ton too

[ornate moss]

And not much of a support either

[plain jacinth]

hunters when bungie patches out the still hunt + CNH interaction:

[amber shadow]

solar warlock > all subclasses

[shadow jackal]

adelynn can you do me a favor

[uncut juniper]

The dps is better on hunter, but hunters are squishy and die easier than titans

[trail citrus]

because titan is crap in endgame yes

[noble lake]

they changed the power delta in raids and dungeons from +20 to -5 meaning we do 35% less damage compared to last season, without matching surges

[uncut juniper]

It really isn't lol

[iron dome]

uhuh, why are you using guns if supers are better?

[shadow jackal]

that’s not true, it just doesn’t compete in some things and some things is a lot

[noble lake]

yeh theyre better but doesnt make titans terrible

[iron dome]

no lmao

[amber shadow]

its to get people to use other stuff besides the meta but it sucks imo

[shadow jackal]

i’ve mained titan for 7 years and i can’t even play them because i’m so meta pulled

[devout flax]

true just waiting for bungie to give prismatic icarus dash

[nocturne bay]

is there a reason im not getting radiolite? like i can pick them up but it doesnt give me the resource

[naive folio]

Yeah so it’s like doing the dungeons/raids on release, only -5. Plus surges, it’s just like doing them on release basically

[ornate moss]

Because titan has only 1 good dps super and even that is outperformed by most other class supers?

[iron dome]

stop being a bot then

[stuck glade]

does the specimen want nessus bounties or helm bounties?

[uncut juniper]

Also titans were literally the best endgame class for a whole year

[noble lake]

literally banner of war

[uncut juniper]

Exactly

[noble lake]

hunter had what

[uncut juniper]

Nothing

[trail citrus]

not really, they dont have anywhere near the survivability, room clear potential, or damage of warlocks and hunter

[noble lake]

blade barrage with ses?

[uncut juniper]

Invis

[iron dome]

if only there was worth besides dps. like survivability and cc

[devout flax]

i think titans are a little underwhelming rn but that doesn't mean theyre not viable lol

[fervent veldt]

maining classes in 2024

[uncut juniper]

Just not true at all

[iron dome]

like how there's dedicated cc

[fervent veldt]

[ornate moss]

Don’t get me wrong I still play titan and will keep playing but you can not tell me this season is a good season for titan

[uncut juniper]

I will only play warlock

[noble lake]

we forgetting the entire year of bow titans and bracers warlocks running around rampant and hunters get 1 good 1 week of strong builds now everyones raging xddd

[inner pasture]

I know this might be an idea but we're are the new 12 activity or gm version & new Fireteam chats future there will be 12 man raids

[fervent veldt]

sucks to be you!

i play all 3 classes

[shadow jackal]

you’re 10x worse than me on titan and let’s not go to general gameplay, you yap about your droid builds and think you clear SHUT UP!!

[trail citrus]

tell me one build they have that competes with still hunt hunter for damage, sunbracers for add clear, or well of radiance/healing turrets for survivability

[ornate moss]

Warlocks also have a lot of survivability if you build into it

[shadow jackal]

they have more room clear than hunter but barely and also i play titan i think i’d know!

[iron dome]

you don't understand. bungie hates titans. they gave them amazing survivability and CC but missile is bad so all of titan is bad

[ornate moss]

That’s not an identity only Titans have

[uncut juniper]

Sunbraces isn't used for ad clear lmao

[shadow jackal]

???

[trail citrus]

gunpowder gamble clears easily

[iron dome]

warlocks don't actually have as much or as flexible survivability as titans tbh

[trail citrus]

tf???????

[fervent veldt]

this is bait 100%

[noble lake]

real they even buffed point contact arc titan so much too i dont see anyone using them cus theyre so stuck on prismatic

[iron dome]

the 2 main things are devour and restoration but titans have access to restoration

[ornate moss]

Devour???

[uncut juniper]

It was used for damage

[quasi condor]

dude thinks sunbracers is only used to solo riven

[noble lake]

literally a 60-70% damage buff

[ornate moss]

Devour is better than anything titans have don’t even start

[iron dome]

I do'nt use em cus they're ugly

[trail citrus]

titans dont have restoration x2 and warlock devour is masssively juiced

[shadow jackal]

it is wym? who else would use bracers? XD

[noble lake]

banner of war

[uncut juniper]

Please do not look up sunshot

[plain jacinth]

have you been away for a long time?

[shadow jackal]

ruz this chat especially Adelynn have like worms up there

[iron dome]

woven mail singlehandedly clears devour and then you can constantly give it to your team too. paired with sever to reduce incoming damage even more

[ornate moss]

Which is usually dependant on teammates being near but is still the best titan build imo

[shadow jackal]

i am making a joke. do not talk to me.

[iron dome]

devour is good but you can't always rely on kills. damage resist trumps heal on kill

[trail citrus]

woven mail doesnt heal you to full on every kill sorry

and warlocks can get woven mail easily on prismatic

[nocturne bay]

is there a reason im not getting radiolite? like i can pick them up but it doesnt give me the resource

[iron dome]

don't need healing if you only lose a 28th of your health

[ornate moss]

You can always rely on kills if you’re warlock

[shadow jackal]

@quasi condor i cant wait to try out my urska furiousa build on stasis! gonna be gas

[noble lake]

📅 💀

[iron dome]

ever soloed a dungeon?

[quasi condor]

w build

[iron dome]

I have with devour actually

[fervent veldt]

osmiomancy gloves on solar 🤯

[trail citrus]

have YOU???

[iron dome]

devour was not it back in y3 for soloing prophecy

[ornate moss]

Yes I have and it was easier with warlock I’ll tell you that much

[trail citrus]

which warlocks can stack with devour lol

[uncut juniper]

Titan mains when their ability to press 3 buttons to kill any boss 1 phase for a whole year gets taken away

[shadow jackal]

what’s happening on july 17th

[noble lake]

u

[ornate moss]

Titans were supposed to be the punchy class at some point but even that is taken by hunters

[shadow jackal]

what!

[iron dome]

if you're gonna go into prismatic my titan has woven mail and restoration paired with major CC

[ornate moss]

So yeah titan needs reworks not buffs, I want to actually be the defensive class that has value in teamplay

[iron dome]

what needs reworked lmao

[shadow jackal]

they don’t

[iron dome]

titans don't need reworks they're fine

[noble lake]

titan mains when they have 72% damage resist for existing but its not enough survivability

[shadow jackal]

teamplay doesn’t rely matter outside of buffs anymore

[iron dome]

titan also doesn't need buffs outside of base missile damage

[reef leaf]

Love to see when people run into GM Excision like it's the normal version xD....so much "guardian down"s

[iron dome]

BuT dEvOuR

[shadow jackal]

have you went into an activity outside of patrols, please stop talking, you just yap

[ornate moss]

Sentinel is ass, solar is good for solo play only, prismatic is the least interesting out of all classes and strand is the only one that you actually feel like you’re contributing at all

[iron dome]

yeah, week 4 panth titan worked fine tbh

[trail citrus]

and warlocks can too, only devour and woven mail is infinitely better than the midness that is restoration x1 lol. Warlocks also have Bleak Watcher turrets for easy CC and our Prismatic nade slows as well

[tough sable]

Is this the freak chat?

[iron dome]

sentinel is is ass WHY. If you just say stuff and don't explain why you come off as a redditor

[reef leaf]

Hunters kinda cooked

[shadow jackal]

cold emoji

[ornate moss]

I didn’t even mention arc or stasis because we all know how bad they are

[noble lake]

why is solar good for solo play only

[iron dome]

lmao what

[shadow jackal]

week 4 panth, adelynn do you flex godslayer perchance?

[reef leaf]

lmao

[ornate moss]

Because overshield is weak

[iron dome]

have you played stasis titan?

[shadow jackal]

it’s horrible yeah i have

[iron dome]

you can get devour from orbs

[worthy bay]

why ikora NPC always ping?

[quasi condor]

lf11m gm excission MUST have godslayer

[trail citrus]

cuz overshield sucks booty and thats essentially the only good thing they have

[reef leaf]

You mean playing the troll machine? xD

[hybrid matrix]

Hi narxd

[trail citrus]

thats the mid devour

[noble lake]

me when they give a 60% damage buff + other qol buffs to my arc subclass gameplay loop for free but its still ‘terrible’

[plain jacinth]

probably wants you to claim new light items

[ornate moss]

Oh yeah let me just proc orbs in high end content

[iron dome]

stasis titan is great if you ask me, in pvp it's top 3 of all classes

[uncut juniper]

Bungie moment

[reef leaf]

Put me in coach

[shadow jackal]

aw shucks i don’t meet the mark 😞

[trail citrus]

noone is talking about pvp lol

[iron dome]

yeah? are you not making orbs????

[shadow jackal]

you’re horrible i’ll pass

[uncut juniper]

Quest tab also perma highlighted

[trail citrus]

HUH? bro you should be making orbs lol

[reef leaf]

Takes one to know one ig

[quasi condor]

same im like the people who put "kwtd" when they dont kwtd

[worthy bay]

so i have to finish the campaign?

[noble lake]

i had that its aids but went away after i restarted my game

[brazen fern]

i heard someone wanted grindier exotic quests?

[ornate moss]

This is exactly what I mean by they should not be balancing classes based on pvp

[brazen fern]

send that guy back to the forsaken era

[shadow jackal]

look at my rr lol i have 30 clears stop talking Chalice#2109

[plain jacinth]

u guys should answer my question instead of bitching at each other like you're doing now

[uncut juniper]

Mine stayed

[iron dome]

in pve it's strong too with a solid kit that needs you to not be braindead

[iron dome]

what part of stasis titan is balanced on pvp

[long mirage]

and in pvp its 🤑

[fervent veldt]

you might as well just finish all the catalysts

[plain jacinth]

rare chicken appearance

[ornate moss]

I don’t care about pvp

[long mirage]

cryoclasm probably

[reef leaf]

Weird flex, but ok. Enjoy your 30 clears then xD

[brazen fern]

like pvp bears any semblance of balance

[uncut juniper]

30 clears of what?

[iron dome]

still on this though, Are you not making orbs??

[ornate moss]

That’s why I keep insisting balancing should not be done based on pvp

[brazen fern]

d2 pvp will NEVER be remotely balanced

[amber arrow]

shard cooldown?

[long mirage]

its pretty fine right now

[iron dome]

the nerf in my experience didn't affect pve much only pvp

[shadow jackal]

overall, ask @noble lake i clear you XD

[brazen fern]

its grossly unbalanced by design

[ornate moss]

You still need to pick orbs up by going in the horde of enemies to proc devour

[long mirage]

yeah its balanced on pvp

[ornate moss]

And overshield will not save you

[noble lake]

+1

[iron dome]

pve decision because you can spam a lot of shards??? like what?

[long mirage]

im using a non meta assualt rifle and got 3.7 with 40 elims last match

[uncut juniper]

Naz#9126

[trail citrus]

the best things about stasis titan in pve is literally a part of Prismatic though, the subclass is still one of the worst

[brazen fern]

bungie shouldnt design or balance a single thing in this game around pvp

[noble lake]

so does hunter

[brazen fern]

pvp is an afterthought, nothing more

[plain jacinth]

based^

[brazen fern]

so it should be treated like one

[iron dome]

shoot to loot or just picking up your teammates orbs or just picking up the orbs:

[plain jacinth]

more people should just play halo instead if they want stupid pvp, frfr

[noble lake]

if anything bow titan can speed thru a gm quicker than a prismatic hunter?

[trail citrus]

shoot to loot exists, and Kvhostov is a very good weapon that has it

[ornate moss]

Yeah but hunter just needs a single kill to start the invisivbility/full heal on melee loop

[iron dome]

my bad guys I can't pick up the mechanic pickup it dropped near enemies and enemies scary

[robust falcon]

how much does the "MODERATE > OPEN" NAT type change improve connectivity?

[uncut juniper]

Ruz does this guy speak for you

[brazen fern]

didnt bungie shove pvp into d1 because activision insisted

[noble lake]

yes

[devout flax]

titans when they have a season of being slightly less viable than before after having been the best class in the game for a year

[reef leaf]

Tis be true

[iron dome]

like holy hell is "orbs are near enemies" a bad argument

[uncut juniper]

Interesting

[brazen fern]

so they went "ok here is your pvp"

[hybrid matrix]

Shoot to loot

[devout flax]

(the class is completely neutered and you're throwing if you play endgame content as titan)

[ornate moss]

What does sentinel bring to the table when they stay alive then?

[fervent veldt]

this is fun to watch

[brazen fern]

bungie shouldnt give a single fck about pvp

[iron dome]

90% of things need you to be near enemies

[brazen fern]

this game is NOT a pvp game

[long mirage]

yes they should

[brazen fern]

no they should not

[shadow jackal]

why do you speak here

[devout flax]

this game very much has an active pvp playerbase

[long mirage]

its a pve/pvp game

[shadow jackal]

erm

[long mirage]

yeah

[amber arrow]

crying rn

[reef leaf]

He's just here for vibes

[uncut juniper]

You don't have 30 clears total idk why lie

[brazen fern]

this game is still not a pvp game

[long mirage]

its pve/pvp

[brazen fern]

you dont play destiny for pvp

[solemn estuary]

arc singe in the new seasonal activity on harder diffs aint it

[iron dome]

bannershield is currently the best raid dps survivability. Controlled demolition deals AOE damage and heals your team, supression nades CC enemies with blind, overshield spam is still extra health

[shadow jackal]

i do wym

[brazen fern]

its a PVE game first and foremost

and will forever be pve

[shadow jackal]

nope

[devout flax]

meanwhile the 1/3 of destiny youtubers who exclusively do pvp content

[long mirage]

i do lol

[uncut juniper]

Chalice#2109 - 14 raid clears

[long mirage]

pve/pvp

[brazen fern]

no sympathy

[dire lichen]

chalice has 100 salvation’s fulls tf you mean

[plain jacinth]

any DARCI users?

[brazen fern]

because they suck at pve

[plain jacinth]

idk but it sounds about right

[long mirage]

pve is so easy wym

[devout flax]

i dont play pvp at all but there are definitely people who play the game for crucible and trials

[reef leaf]

🤮

[runic geode]

The goat

[iron dome]

I wonder if bannershield still gets melted by machine guns in pvp

[hybrid matrix]

Pvp blows

[jolly musk]

I'll say it right here right now

Lfg is trash at the game

That is all

[iron dome]

common knowledge. next

[long mirage]

lfg is the main reason i dont touch pve

[brazen fern]

my point is that pvp is not the focus of this game and should be treated like an afterthought

[dire lichen]

wow no way

[solemn estuary]

real

[brazen fern]

because it IS an afterthought and always has been

[iron dome]

lfg is the reason I don't raid often

[ornate moss]

Why would you use bannershield at all though?

[long mirage]

yeah

[brazen fern]

allocate resources towards pve and not pvp

[shadow jackal]

grinning emoji

[jolly musk]

Lfg accelerates the rate of mu suixidr

[solemn estuary]

ff or this lfg?

[long mirage]

why would you abandon pvp which is a good chunk of the playerbase

[iron dome]

for survivability???

[dire lichen]

i’m doing witness cps for the raid exotic and then i’m never raiding again unless it’s lowmanning

[brazen fern]

week 3 panth on lfg gave me hope that lfg can be good

[iron dome]

it's the same people

[ornate moss]

Just pop well for that still

[shadow jackal]

burger

[iron dome]

uhuh, week 4 panth shattered any hope of lfg being good

[fervent veldt]

hiiii whats up fellers

[solemn estuary]

bruh why am i getting 2 shot in the new breach activity on expert, at light, with 100 resil and proper resist?

[ornate moss]

At least with well you don't lose a DPS

[shadow jackal]

week 4 panth that week 4 panth this, it wasn’t hard man

[iron dome]

me when the well gets outdamaged.

[zinc anvil]

Did it 3 times all lfg

[ornate moss]

Does that happen often? Lmao

[reef leaf]

I would have to agree with this. Granted, long term content is more PvE oriented the PvP realm is not small

[long mirage]

yeah

[brazen fern]

because it shouldnt be the focus of this game?

[elfin pagoda]

on the 12 man GM when it says commune with darkenss but we can't, waht do we do?

[brazen fern]

allocate resources towards pve

this game is a pve game

[iron dome]

yeah? it's only resto x2 now.

[brazen fern]

pve is what makes destiny destiny

[bright sparrow]

lmao

[devout flax]

i agree that pve should be the main focus but you cant deny that a decent amount of the playerbase prioritizes pvp and bungie should respect them

[ornate moss]

Idk chief we still don't get anywhere near death during well DPS phases

[reef leaf]

Don't think you were a beta/early Destiny player then

[elfin pagoda]

on the 12 man GM when it says commune with darkenss but we can't, waht do we do?

[long mirage]

^^

[iron dome]

which dps phases? oryx???

[bright sparrow]

this

[reef leaf]

This ^

[brazen fern]

ok and how does that invalidate my point?

[ornate moss]

Literally no one says "Someone bring bannershield" instead of well

[elfin pagoda]

on the 12 man GM when it says commune with darkenss but we can't, waht do we do? is it bugged

[brazen fern]

this game was never supposed to have pvp just so you know

[ornate moss]

In which DPS phase does a well fail?

[long mirage]

okay so why abandon it

[iron dome]

most people aren't that smart.

[iron dome]

any where resto x2 fails

[brazen fern]

because its not the focus of the game and is an afterthought

[shadow jackal]

friendly fire

[ornate moss]

Name one

[long mirage]

okay so you abandon like 1/5th the playerbase for what

[brazen fern]

they need only supply the bare minimum

[long mirage]

because its an afterthought?

[amber arrow]

priorities can change over time, no?

[long mirage]

which they have been doing? ☹️

[elfin pagoda]

is 12 man gm bugged?

[brazen fern]

rightfully so

[bright sparrow]

an extremely harcore part of the player base i might add

[long mirage]

yeah so why are you complaining

[reef leaf]

Destiny from the start, as it makes Destiny Destiny as you tried to argue, has always balanced PvE and PvP. I don't totally disagree with your stance just that you shouldn't ditch PvP in general

[long mirage]

pvp players put more sweat and tears into this game then pve for sure

[ornate moss]

You can't just say "Anywhere where 2x fails" because x2 is still a powerful heal

[long mirage]

^^

[brazen fern]

that changes nothing

[long mirage]

read everything else stated above

[shadow jackal]

adelynn is clueless btw don’t mind her☠️

[long mirage]

also i love how you said pvp youtubers cant do pvp but you said pvp was unbalanced, seems like you just cant play crucible

[iron dome]

I'm trying to think of bosses that don't just remove the well and that actually fight back holdon

[amber arrow]

i don't think trying to change alpha's opinion is going to work

[ornate moss]

I have never seen well fail even after the nerf I mean yeah sure you can't just cheese Witness but that's the point

[long mirage]

just because you suck at a gamemode doesnt mean it should be abandoned 👍

[elfin pagoda]

on the 12 man GM when it says commune with darkenss but we can't, waht do we do?

[reef leaf]

I'd kinda argue that given the raiders

[long mirage]

so real

[brazen fern]

i dont suck at it but sure

[shadow jackal]

3 ppl in this chat are standing tall on falsehoods

[iron dome]

why are so many bosses just don't stand outside the dps spot

[bright sparrow]

oh is bro mad because he lost the 6s mode

[ornate moss]

So no raid boss is whatt you mean

[fervent veldt]

whats up chalice

[brazen fern]

this game has some of the worst pvp in gaming

[iron dome]

like so much dps has the main threat being outside mechanics

[long mirage]

i would but then i see the 0.1 of pvp players

[brazen fern]

and thats no exaggeration

[bright sparrow]

oh yeah he's mad ok

[iron dome]

also probably war priest I bet

[long mirage]

yeah he lost his 6v6 and he is in tears now

[ornate moss]

I just did war priest and well was still essential

[fervent veldt]

whats up alpha whats up adelynn whats up chalice

[long mirage]

tried to hop in for his powerfull rewards and got 150-50'd ☹️

[brazen fern]

imagine having a peer to peer system in 2024

[shadow jackal]

pvp is more challenging simply because the enemy does damage and you also have to deal with the opponent using their head not following a program

[iron dome]

skill issue

[ornate moss]

Legit I'm fresh out of King's Fall

[bright sparrow]

ah now we're moving goal posts

[brazen fern]

where netlimiters and cheaters run amok

[shadow jackal]

pvp is free thoguj

[deep dune]

Genchat beef moment

[shadow jackal]

i cant deal with you

[iron dome]

could've probably just ran swords with banner of war

[deep dune]

Never gets old

[long mirage]

yeah ofc

[reef leaf]

I think both sides have their level of sweat and tears put into both sides of the game. Solo, duo, trio, contest, etc and on the other side we have trials, competitive, etc

[long mirage]

old point gets busted, switch to new one 🔥

[ornate moss]

Ah yes because it's better to strafe shoot while juggling the mechanics of the game and your health

[regal crystal]

does the exotic rotator award pinnacle?

[iron dome]

running swords would prevent the seekers from properly retaliating

[long mirage]

yeah

[ornate moss]

Instead of popping well

[brazen fern]

either way i have zero sympathy for pvp players

[iron dome]

swords:

[long mirage]

okay then stop yapping about it

[bright sparrow]

no one asked you to

[long mirage]

you seem to care alot about pvp for someone who holds no sympathy or care for it

[iron dome]

also bannershield could've made your time way easier

[bright sparrow]

go back to strikes bb

[reef leaf]

I won't deny, there is a higher level of skill needed to get into PvP though for sure. Can't just shoot and forget like when you first start in PvE

[long mirage]

yeah

[ornate moss]

You don't need swords when there's multiple hunters with still hunt in your team

[iron dome]

meta bot

try having fun for once instead of being such a bot

[long mirage]

pvp has a higher entry gate and skill ceiling but thats just the nature of pvp no?

[ornate moss]

Adelynn I get you're trying to make Titan work and I appreciate that but you can't claim we are not lacking identity at this point

[long mirage]

doesnt take away how pve is but human vs human will always be the toughest challenge of all

[iron dome]

pvp having a high entry gate is a myth made by bad players

[reef leaf]

Celest + still hunt + orbs for days = DPS, Bane of Bosses

[brazen fern]

high end pve is harder than pvp

[iron dome]

titans aren't lacking identity though??

[bright sparrow]

l,mao

[iron dome]

it's an actually stupid statement

[long mirage]

☹️

[bright sparrow]

actually insane

[long mirage]

truly

[iron dome]

that's like saying warlocks lack identity

[ornate moss]

No it's not lmao

[iron dome]

warlocks have worse dps than still hunt hunters

warlocks are worse support than titans

[ornate moss]

Warlocks have a lot of utility

[bright sparrow]

how about just play what ya want

[shadow jackal]

i was a titan main for 7 years and i swapped for final shape simply because while they do stuff the other classes just do better

[iron dome]

unless you're calling well their entire support identity

[brazen fern]

go solo flawless a -5 dungeon and come back telling me pvp is harder

[echo maple]

the warlock class item should've had wings of sacred dawn perk on it

[solemn estuary]

for the pale heart pathfinder seasonal challenge, do i have to 100% the pathfinder before resetting it?

[iron dome]

utility is not identity every class has utility

[bright sparrow]

having some weird one upsmanship is jsut real spergy

[quasi condor]

first they came for the gambit players, and i did not speak out because i was not a gambit player. then they came for the pvp players and i did not speak out because i was not a pvp player

[iron dome]

hunters have arguably more utility]

[shadow jackal]

you’re negative though so doesn’t this apply to you? 😭

[bright sparrow]

bro you are not real

[fervent veldt]

guys pecan pie is goated

[long mirage]

go solo queue and get to the highest rank of competitive

[shadow jackal]

ARGUABLY?

[ornate moss]

Well, healing builds, the new solar super

[bright sparrow]

you're a construct an MLM

[long mirage]

this could be a new form of rage bait AI

[brazen fern]

comp is inherently rng when solo queue

[ornate moss]

Hunters have more everything rn in the game we're not talking about htat

[brazen fern]

im not putting myself through that hellhole

[long mirage]

not when your the highest rank

[bright sparrow]

home is engagement farming

[long mirage]

because you cant?

[brazen fern]

because im not that dumb?

[zinc anvil]

this chat gotta be rage bait

[long mirage]

you couldnt even if you wanted to can you admit to that or are you gonna be like 'erm actually'

[brazen fern]

why would i willingly solo queue comp

[echo maple]

hunters never beating the favored class allegations

[echo trellis]

bad game

[ornate moss]

Titan needs more supportive and tank abilities we don't need our dmg buffed or anything

[long mirage]

has to be

[sturdy needle]

fr i love how there's two separate arguments going on

[long mirage]

there's no way im not talking to an AI set up to farm responses

[devout flax]

honestly they should just make icarus dash one of the possible perks

[shadow jackal]

3 of them have really bad takes that are just objectively wrong and then get mad

[quasi condor]

lfg is always like this

[echo trellis]

ive seen toxic communities and ive seen stupid communities but never have i seen the offspring of both

[shadow jackal]

ava can we go out for tea later today

[echo trellis]

until d2 that is

[iron dome]

bubble, banner, banner of war, into the fray, controlled demolition, bastion. precious scars, saint 14, phoenix cradle, arbor warden,

[zinc anvil]

Real

[shadow jackal]

bro mari these people are clueless

[sand shadow]

We have a new rage baiter like every month

[long mirage]

truly peak community

[shadow jackal]

Adelynn doesn’t even bait, they just don’t know how to play the game

[slow spire]

That's a double edge sword when looking at how tanks work in other games.

[sand shadow]

I think the last month’s rage baiter was bad but then the new one pulls some new move

[brazen fern]

real

[ornate moss]

Only banner of war feels impactful to use

[bright sparrow]

Destiny's best days are in front of us

[quasi condor]

ermm i dont drink tea

[iron dome]

titans have plenty of support and tank aspects and abilities on their subclasses

[shadow jackal]

you also have bad takes

[echo trellis]

imean thats fair but also it tends to be quite subclassbased no? void and strand gets all the supporting

[long mirage]

🔥

[shadow jackal]

what should we get then

[iron dome]

maybe you should use controleld demolition and precious scars better then

[quasi condor]

idunno

[brazen fern]

like

[echo trellis]

we must be turned around

[obtuse sandal]

what are some of the best pvp guns?

[shadow jackal]

don’t fire emoji me. my opinion stands atop

[long mirage]

fire as in your right gang

[ornate moss]

Adelynn it's clear we have different opinions on what we want titan to be.

[slow spire]

I don't think D2 Titans would work well in the game if given Tank abilites from other games.

[shadow jackal]

“pvp should be removed” get better please

[ornate moss]

Let's just end the argument right here

[brazen fern]

never said that 😭

[shadow jackal]

i’m aware, don’t do that

[iron dome]

yeah? I don't see the issue tbh. voids identity is about protecting your team so it's largely support. strand idk what they were trying to do but it's more support

[long mirage]

you were implying it

[brazen fern]

nor was i implying it

[shadow jackal]

no sympathy for pvp players, when they clear you

[iron dome]

if titans have any issues it's how arc lacks the means to fulfill the brawler identity

[brazen fern]

clear who

[shadow jackal]

adelynn has the most vile pve takes and you just spew

[obtuse sandal]

GUYS

help me out

[deep dune]

Us

[shadow jackal]

@sand shadow guess what vro

[obtuse sandal]

i need good pvp weapon

[iron dome]

actually it's not that they lack means it's that juggernaut sucks and ToT isn't related

[long mirage]

what do you like to play

[sand shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-vro-gif-15207430103528002530

[brazen fern]

i couldnt care less about what happens to pvp, its a pointless resource sink on bungies part

[obtuse sandal]

idk just starting to play pvp

[nova fable]

Bruh are yall not good at pvp or what

[iron dome]

arc is the only problem with titans and the only part of titans that's weak in a way

[shadow jackal]

the first run of dual destiny i did with misty i got 2 and i hit him off the map so he got 1 class item 🥶

[brazen fern]

allocate those resources towards pve and we might get a better game

[long mirage]

play around with some stuff that seems fun

[slow spire]

Do you believe Titans need to be reworked or need specific Tanking abilities?

[shadow jackal]

it was an accident but it was funny 😼

[long mirage]

is destiny 2 a bad game? maybe stop playing it 🙏

[ornate moss]

I believe they need to be reworked

[undone pagoda]

Guys, is warlords ruin exotic farmable?

[obtuse sandal]

copied a build with bombadiers big boom

[sand shadow]

thats messed up… u owe misty now

[shadow jackal]

survivability isn’t even a problem in this game

[echo trellis]

by that logic solar ought to have massive support options too bc the identity of solar is massive heals

[quasi condor]

saying you werent implying pvp should be removed then saying its a pointless resource sink is crazy

[long mirage]

the thing that plants mines when you dodge?

[obtuse sandal]

but need a weapon

[midnight kraken]

[iron dome]

titans have specific tanking abilities

[shadow jackal]

ermmm nuh uh!!

[obtuse sandal]

yes

[long mirage]

a handcanon and shotgun always does good, try that

[echo trellis]

and titans have one singular exotic that allows them to play around with sunspots for support

[long mirage]

if it doesnt suit you, try a pulse with it instead

[ornate moss]

If our identity is the defensive class we should have the best teamwide defensive abilities in the game

[iron dome]

not on titan,

[obtuse sandal]

alright, got ace of spades

[shadow jackal]

@quasi condor let’s go on a cookie spending spree we’ll travel the world getting different treats

[brazen fern]

that doesnt mean pvp should get removed, it means they should pull those resources towards what actually matters, ie pve

[sturdy needle]

yeah was gonna say, basically any pulse rn

[long mirage]

what shotguns you have

[ornate moss]

Not different colors of crayon punch

[echo trellis]

you were talking abt elemental identity not subclass identity

[iron dome]

if you go by element identity void titan should be applying weakening

[long mirage]

pvp already gets little resources why are you complaining

[gleaming lynx]

am i stupid or i can't see legendary lost sectors?

[quasi condor]

^

[long mirage]

and your saying as if pve doesnt get content like what?

[obtuse sandal]

says here my hand in hand with slideshot and one two punch is s tier

[zinc anvil]

Pvp matters A LOT and I’m saying that while I suck at pvp

[slow spire]

If fully built into the tank role.

[brazen fern]

no it does not

[long mirage]

it is like 1/4th of the playerbase

[iron dome]

context was about titans?

[nova fable]

Bruh yall are not even 2kd talking crazy

[brazen fern]

source: my ass

[gleaming lynx]

i swear i went on todayindestiny and it was the conflux

[slow spire]

Fair. How would you do it?

[dreamy venture]

To any askers: I've unlocked all the seasonal (non-timegated) craftable weapons and gotten my godrolls for the current reprisal weapons just in the first week.

[iron dome]

if you put on like 2 aspects

[main estuary]

@shadow jackal yeah have fun getting banned freak. Kicking before loot is just so scummy I can't even. Freaking out in vc when I'm literally diamond speed rank (faster than you will ever be)

[gleaming lynx]

but i completed it and it doesnt show up?

[long mirage]

most video's on pvp get like 50-250k views

[shadow jackal]

okay bro

[brazen fern]

thats not a source

[shadow jackal]

haiii :3

[iron dome]

they really don't outside of arc which needs a rework on all classes

[echo trellis]

and the context was to make titans a bit more consistent with elemental identities?

[quasi condor]

sure!

[shadow jackal]

where do we go first

[iron dome]

no it wasn't

[long mirage]

it shows how many people watch destiny 2 pvp content, would it be wrong to assume they play pvp if they watch it?

[sturdy needle]

pvp and pve are both crucial, think of all the pvp weapons that have been good in pve and pve weapons that are good in pvp

[ornate moss]

I know this will NEVER happen but I think titan needs different supers that will actually impact and help your team in a meaningful way

[long mirage]

yeah

[obtuse sandal]

is that good?

[brazen fern]

i sometimes watch pvp content because im bored, doesnt mean i play it

[iron dome]

like what

[shadow jackal]

for what

[long mirage]

okay so 1/10th of the views can be taken away because of that

[slow spire]

Eh... debatable.

[echo trellis]

yuh huh

[iron dome]

genuinely like what

[obtuse sandal]

im trying to build pvp

[long mirage]

45k to 225k

[shadow jackal]

i mean with your playstyle, maybe?

[obtuse sandal]

someone said go hand cannon shotgun

[iron dome]

any dps buffing super why would I use it over well?

[echo trellis]

lmfao

[quasi condor]

north korea

[ornate moss]

Something that meaningfully increases the team's DPS output

[iron dome]

any direct damage dps super why would I use it over golden gun?

[shadow jackal]

opening shot threat detector, elemental capac etc

[iron dome]

why would I use it over well

[shadow jackal]

we could leave then :(

[main estuary]

Different class methinks

[iron dome]

or golden gun, or gathering storm

[ornate moss]

Because well is not a DPS increasing super at this point

[obtuse sandal]

ok no idea what that means bro lmao

[shadow jackal]

like am i wrong though mari? 😭

[echo trellis]

well kinda felloff

[iron dome]

that's literally the main use??????

[long mirage]

those are perks

[shadow jackal]

perks in the game

[quasi condor]

south korea then

[shadow jackal]

what about romania we could see the top G

[obtuse sandal]

on what, handcannon?

[main estuary]

Yeah it is

[iron dome]

the main reason people use well is the easy damage buff for 30 seconds. that's why well is still used against oryx

[obtuse sandal]

i got ace of spades already

[shadow jackal]

i’m just not helping anymore😔

[long mirage]

just use a shotgun bro

[quasi condor]

oh hecks no

[ornate moss]

Well is mainly used for survivability

[obtuse sandal]

lmao bro i am trying my hardest

[long mirage]

on ur energy slot 🙏

[slow spire]

Banner Shield is one. Personally, I think the Titan should have an Agro ability. Something to have the enemies focus on the Titan and no one else.

[ornate moss]

Give titan more banner of war like abilities

[azure cloak]

threat detector hand cannon 🦍

[shadow jackal]

crssh adelynn said banner shield over well can we smite them

[long mirage]

truly....

[main estuary]

In gms sure but not raids

[echo maple]

bruh how is glimmer now harder to get than cores lmao

[obtuse sandal]

ty someone straight to the point

[zinc anvil]

Titan should get a celestial nighthawk for hammer

[shadow jackal]

sorry i’m just to lazy to explain man 😭

[long mirage]

TRUE AS HELL

[iron dome]

never been the main role for well in dps. always been the bonus damage. Oryx Sisters, Vorgeth, Kalli, etc all of those well has been for the dps boost not survivability

[shadow jackal]

every throwing hammer does 800k

[echo trellis]

consider that oryx has one of the most boring dps phases where everyone can just huddle in the well for the full time

[quasi condor]

they have one

[long mirage]

we MUST buff this to 1.5m

[iron dome]

saying well is mainly used for survivability is a lie

[ornate moss]

I'm saying "at this point"

[quasi condor]

(for the big hammer)

[iron dome]

yeah you're still wrong

[ornate moss]

After the nerf

[shadow jackal]

no one said this 👽

[main estuary]

Me if I was doing gos

[iron dome]

the nerf that nerfed survivability but not the damage??

[obtuse sandal]

pyrogale gauntlets

[long mirage]

we do?

[main estuary]

Even then you use both

[deep dune]

These discussions are something else

[shadow jackal]

@main estuary you see the ego on the crabby patty burger player? 😭

[zinc anvil]

But the throwing hammers

[meager flower]

Well sucks in gms now

[long mirage]

throwing hammer you cant pick up but does more damage doesnt sound like a bad idea

[main estuary]

I mean they may be turbo burger 8k but they are right

[obtuse sandal]

ong

[long mirage]

ok im off to comp again 😍

[shadow jackal]

they aren’t

[main estuary]

still usable you just have to shoot enemies

[ornate moss]

Dawg I'm sorry for thinking my class is boring to play and is not as "defensive" or "supportive" as it's advertised to be

[long mirage]

shaxx calls my name 🔥

[main estuary]

Well is still used for dps ??

[shadow jackal]

yeah i’m aware

[iron dome]

You know the nerf didn't touch the damage right? The damage got a buff because golden gun hunters can now step out for radiant

[main estuary]

So they are right?

[long mirage]

i think titans should just have no supers or abilities and just do insane melee damage

[shadow jackal]

no

[echo maple]

It was writing on the wall when Bungie got rid of bottom tree Dawnblade

[zinc anvil]

You are correct don’t be sorry

[main estuary]

me if I couldn't read

[iron dome]

That they didn't know how to make a solar subclass?

[echo maple]

well that but also that they don't want warlocks to be the space wizards of the bunch

[iron dome]

Titan is supportive and defensive though

[echo maple]

they want them ot be relegated to healing and utility

[vapid rain]

whats up with the weird portals on nessus that have prismatic guys in the middle and give you numbers under your map

[shadow jackal]

hey crash, have fun getting reported, thanks for kicking me after warpriest! i cant wait to show my friends what you did XD have fun dude i’m in diamond III speedrank (top 2%)

[iron dome]

0 healing or support aspects. Actually arc souls technically support

[ornate moss]

We're just going to loop to the beginning now

[iron dome]

It is

[main estuary]

To the soy bean farms

[iron dome]

Titans have aspects and abilities for support and tanking

[shadow jackal]

want to travel the world and try different sweets with me and @quasi condor

[crystal cipher]

why does the taniks bomb thingy say offline when i try and deposit a bomb

[iron dome]

The one thing titans lack is a solid brawler outside of solar.

[ornate moss]

You can go ahead and think titans are still great and should not be changed but actual stats say otherwise

[shadow jackal]

strand emoji

[main estuary]

That's what they are supposed to do but titan sucky right now

[zinc anvil]

Suppressor has to finish suppressing

[iron dome]

Shoot the suppressors

[echo trellis]

erm

[dreamy venture]

Which to keep... They're both pretty good.