💬destiny-chat

[frigid hatch]

THIS one's kinda useless to me besides Grenade regen since combo blow

[brazen fern]

i have been running sacrifice for a while but the bonus isnt that big

[languid willow]

guess no veteran here

[prime nest]

tried steam restart as well

[brazen fern]

so i stuck on bravery for the free unravelling and volatile rounds on grapple melees

[frigid hatch]

im not a fan in general, hunters only great combos require transcendence

otherwise it's missing the extra oomph your raw subclasses give

like Jolts on punches. Glacier + Shatter dive

healing nade lmao

[brazen fern]

i barely transcend lol

i always forget to transcend

[frigid hatch]

i literally only do it to reboot my cooldowns

[brazen fern]

im running inmost light so i dont think about cooldowns

[frigid hatch]

sure why not ig

[brazen fern]

the thing is, the only combo you need on prismatic hunter is stylish + melee

you will delete everything

[frigid hatch]

threaded specter makes for some goofy damage

cuz i crap out like 5 clones before they all blow up

[meager flower]

Wheres your exotic cape

[frigid hatch]

[charred yacht]

time for everyone to bust out the prestige levi armor

[brazen fern]

might be good for a euphony build

[frigid hatch]

i have 3 and they all suck

[wanton halo]

pls tell me u guys saw the vid about the 1.6mil hunter melees

ehroar uploaded it

[brazen fern]

highest i have hit was 1.4 mil

[charred abyss]

Is it just me or some champion mod are not working half of the time? Like i hold down hand cannon for champion mod it won’t glow or etc to stun overload chap but my side arm works just fine.

[wanton halo]

no theres legit a build to do 1.6mil melees in 2 seconds

[brazen fern]

ehroar made a mistake on stylish

[wanton halo]

over and over again

its a bug but yeah

[brazen fern]

bug?

[meager flower]

Mine turns my titan into a hunter

[wanton halo]

im pretty sure it is

[meager flower]

Pretty cool actually lol

[brazen fern]

as far as im concerned all he did was the stylish + 1-2p + tether + syntho stacking

[frigid hatch]

there, i put on the 3rd one

[wanton halo]

that doesnt seem right tho

[frigid hatch]

now i get woven mail for free and every dodge reloads me

[brazen fern]

it lines up

[wanton halo]

like 1.6mil a melee is crazy

[brazen fern]

multiplying buffs is very beneficial and exponential

[frigid hatch]

you just noticed? titans were already doing this

[brazen fern]

strand titan wasnt this crazy

[lilac wraith]

thats all i did for the 5 punch boss kill, is there more dmg i can get?

[reef coyote]

i do not know what you're talking about but it isn't a bug

[wanton halo]

it just seems like one idk

[brazen fern]

if you stack shieldcrush and facet of courage, technically yes

[wanton halo]

ik buff stackings a thing but its like they shouldnt be able to do that LOL

[lilac wraith]

o. i was already doing that lol

[meager flower]

Spirit of the assassin + Spirit of the star eater

[reef coyote]

being in the vow raid 💡

[meager flower]

Hunter titan

[echo trellis]

i can hit dmg cap with slam attack

[brazen fern]

the maximum you could do on a boss not named caretaker is like 800k per hit

so 1.6 mil, if the stars align

realistically though, its more like 1.4 mil

[echo trellis]

kid

imean mid

[brazen fern]

i can hit damage cap just by dodging

its crazy

[echo trellis]

but can u hit past 2^32

thats damage cap

[frigid hatch]

just remember the Witness' HP in Excision is like 999,999,999,999,999

[brazen fern]

binary numbers

[wanton halo]

erm i can throw fusion grenades and swap stillhunt/apex

thats all us warlocks have rn sadge

[brazen fern]

5 billion dps, bro died in 7 seconds

[frigid hatch]

LMAO

[brazen fern]

imagine that was his actual hp in salvations edge 😭😭

gg

[frigid hatch]

i think it's like 20-ish mil?

[brazen fern]

on the higher end for final bosses

[wanton halo]

there a way to farm world drops?

[alpine garnet]

💀

[frigid hatch]

it's crazy cuz we just utterly melt the crap outa him too

[echo trellis]

%hp x4 viral 313% str roar + reave

[brazen fern]

i will pretend to understand what that means

[sly chasm]

Imagine if gm excision final stand has scaling dmg

[lilac wraith]

9000 minute encounter

[wanton halo]

i understood half of this 💀

[echo trellis]

how is echoes gonna even be treatening

witness is dead

[brazen fern]

my airpods just saved my ears

[lilac wraith]

whats reave

[reef coyote]

Idk what this means and i have been playing for a while are we talking about the same game

[echo trellis]

witness was a pushover

[heavy ivy]

are the servers down

[brazen fern]

holy moly

[frigid hatch]

warframe jargon nobody cares about, game is patched by chinese corpo that owns a canadian dev

[swift plinth]

does anyone else miss escalation protocol?

[wanton halo]

Rhino prime my beloved

[brazen fern]

[frigid hatch]

so you know it's supremely extra bad

[lilac wraith]

rhino kinda mid

[heavy ivy]

.

[wanton halo]

He the 🐐

[wanton halo]

no they ain't

[echo trellis]

destiny and warframe competing for the mid off

[lilac wraith]

🤑 saryn with acid shells 🤑

[wanton halo]

Me when i press 2 (I'm now immortal)

[frigid hatch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcfHlBMJmsI i'd rather fight this guy again on Nightmare difficulty rather than deal with Warframe crap

[lilac wraith]

😦 oh

[frigid hatch]

48 minute boss fight lmao

and that's on the easier mode

[sly chasm]

Mfw youre fighting the mountain turtle in ff15

[meager flower]

Theres gonna be someone worse

[lilac wraith]

me

[meager flower]

The Vex

[echo trellis]

what, the man in the wall?

[frigid hatch]

Mcburn is a DPS and a Tank test, he has a unique debuff called Black Flames which chunk 50% of your HP every turn a character suffers it

and it can't be purged by any means but death

[meager flower]

Man in the wall is nothing compared to the witness

[frigid hatch]

so every turn is just a guessing game of "do i focus on damage or keeping my party alive?" lmao

[signal veldt]

down for me

[echo trellis]

back it up

[meager flower]

O

[echo trellis]

witness died in 6 encounters

[meager flower]

No

[echo trellis]

man in the wall lives rent free in the orbiter and has a nice relationship wit u

[lilac wraith]

the man in the wall is camping in the wall bruh

no clipping

[echo trellis]

just wait till he aint in the wall

[lilac wraith]

😱 😱 😱 😱

then hes just man

[echo trellis]

tbf wally and witness are polar opposites

[lilac wraith]

man outside the wall 😱

[echo trellis]

witness is trying to make a singular final reality and make that eternal

[frigid hatch]

i wonder when DE can get original content

[lilac wraith]

i wonder when DE will make their game good

[echo trellis]

man in the wall is trying to push as many alt universes and scenarios as possible

[frigid hatch]

they've been stealing from Destiny 2's story for the last 8 years

ya'll remember the Ballas fight?

[echo trellis]

okay not d2

[meager flower]

Is mitw also as powerful as witness?

[wind bronze]

revenant sweep

[frigid hatch]

ya'll remember The Almighty mission in Red War campaign?

[lilac wraith]

wait what whats that stolen from

[meager flower]

Like he can do crazy stuff

[echo trellis]

they would kind of counter each other

[lilac wraith]

😑 idk mann

[echo trellis]

imean the losing powers thingy always happens in stories lol

that might be a bit of a reach

[frigid hatch]

no, Almighty is the Guardian attacking the Almighty space ship while it was on the sun

Ballas fight is dodging direct blasts from the sun to make it to the main arena you fight him in

Ballas fight came out years later lmao

[lilac wraith]

ballas is just: baiting the funny beams into the portal things

[echo trellis]

warframe when they steal the solar system and the sun from another video game

[meager flower]

Man in the wall is not a giant

[frigid hatch]

the mission is stolen, not the freaking sun you imbecile

[eager path]

[lilac wraith]

he was pretty big in that final cutscene after ballas fight

[echo trellis]

ngl witness looks too lame directing

[echo trellis]

warframe when they steal the idea of a spaceship

[frigid hatch]

the Witness would win by just staring at mitw a little bit

[lilac wraith]

bruh the witness looks so lame, i wish he turned into a dragon or something

[frigid hatch]

real

[eager path]

me when mom and dad are fighting in gen chat

[meager flower]

You wish he was maleficent?

[echo trellis]

witness dies in 6 encounters warframe is too trash to have raids so they cant beat him in 6 encs

[frigid magnet]

After a lot of work and having finally got the graviton lance catalyst

[lilac wraith]

dragon deez nuts! ! !!!

[frigid hatch]

warframe needed a raid just to be able to fight Vay Hek

and he's a bum LMAO

[frigid magnet]

I'm extremely unhappy to announce all I got was vorpal weapon

[wind bronze]

you get that one thing as well that gives you overshield for breaking shields, isn't that so great

[fickle rampart]

you get turnabout too

[alpine vector]

anyone know why i played throught the entire campaign on hunter but am missing subclasses some how

[wind bronze]

please use overshields

[echo trellis]

we needed a raid just to clean up someones ship expulsion system

[frigid hatch]

yup lmao

[frigid magnet]

What does turnabout do

[wind bronze]

and a raid about throwing balls at one another to kill a dude with a flamethrower

[wind marten]

You'll need to do 6 adventure missions in total, Queens, Home and Fallen part 1 and 2.

[frigid hatch]

nothing useful

[wind bronze]

overshield on shield break

[waxen marten]

any1 else get stuck at 15 motes of light even when u did everything to obtain 17

[frigid magnet]

What does the catalyst even do except give slightly more damage to bosses

[frigid hatch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbb1X33KOmU meanwhile FF14 raids be like "yo there's a demon in the after-life eating everybodys souls, go merc it hero"

[alpine vector]

damn thats dumb. ty tho

[wind marten]

Np

[wind bronze]

stability/range/both buff i think

[frigid hatch]

SE took "raid boss" VERY literally by turning the entire raid, into a boss

[delicate thunder]

is destiny 2 down

[alpine vector]

no

[feral minnow]

i like both

[frigid magnet]

Seems a little underwhelming

[echo trellis]

what is this

[rustic lark]

you probably miss some from the overthrow bosses

[waxen marten]

it says i killed every boss

i prob gotta go back and do all of them over again id assume

[alpine garnet]

Paul dropping facts again https://fxtwitter.com/paultassi/status/1802882260191920204

[rustic lark]

yeah and you probably miss the purple mote that drop

[feral minnow]

what is what

[waxen marten]

purple mote?

[wind bronze]

i love useless relics being spawned

[waxen marten]

is that random or a certain boss

[rustic lark]

i did the same i stuck at 16 and i miss one mote from the landing ovverthrow

[delicate thunder]

destiny is saying services not available

[rustic lark]

so for every run check the boss name when you got 3 move to another zone

[wind marten]

All the 9 overthrow boss drops a purple pyramidal shape item on death

Thats the purple mote

[rustic lark]

it's mote of light but it drop purple mote on the ground

[alpine garnet]

at least void crystal one is somewhat useful

[echo trellis]

hi

[waxen marten]

not the vestige of light

[rustic lark]

when you got the last one it should shown as exotic mote

[feral minnow]

yo

[proud sundial]

how do you unlonck the duel destiny quest

[meager flower]

Luzaku

[rustic lark]

i mean how's bungie show item drop is like triangle mote that base on the rarity normal blue purple exotic

[tribal lichen]

It's a secret mission

[rustic lark]

kill a lucent hive that spawn after you finish landing in 3 zone in pale heart

[alpine garnet]

google

[waxen marten]

yeah i see what u mean i have 15 of them, looks like i gotta go back and do all 9 bosses over

[rustic lark]

good luck i re do all the overthrow just to get the last one ^^

but make sure to check the name before the fight so you can make a check list

some times same boss spawn twice

[waxen marten]

yeah im at 2/3 on blooming so imma just do it one location at a time

[spiral grove]

khvostov richochet round range is 17 meters wtfffff

[lilac wraith]

kill it

crush its ghost

[wind marten]

Also the matchmade can spawn the same boss in a row everytime u queue into one

[spiral grove]

shes so me

[rustic lark]

some one gonna make her into waifu i think ^^

[wind marten]

Is that good or bad?

[spiral grove]

thats like quadruple the range of any other exotic primary crowd control

[waxen marten]

out of the three on your triumphs it will says 3/3 but the top one doesnt , is there a reason to that

[rustic lark]

in the surrounded or proximity range like 15 meters so it's great

[spiral grove]

the only competition for range is tremors but that cannot be triggered instantly

[wind marten]

Oh then its really good, plus damage increase from shoot to loot and exotic perk

[rustic lark]

yeah the boss that summon are not always come out in order it randomize

[onyx matrix]

Hey team! What is the best masterwork on waveframes!

[spiral grove]

handling or reload speed if you have to ammo perk like ambitious assassin

[wind bronze]

didn't they make it so blast radius isn't a complete detriment on wave frames, but yeah i'd assume it's still handling/reload

[spiral grove]

they are all really fun and dangerous at time but the tormentor is the undisputed king of needing to be respected at all times

[wanton halo]

Ngl I don’t notice the blast radius change even slightly

[rustic lark]

i'll go all reload if pve if it is pvp then handling

[craggy summit]

servers down ?

[onyx matrix]

not for me

[meager flower]

Only the ultra ones

[rustic lark]

subjugator have a unique approach for each type which is fun

[spiral grove]

same can be said for lightbearers and subjugators too, but even then id say the tormentor is still more dangerous

althought shatterstorm is actually a jumpscare if you underestimate their aoe

[zealous wyvern]

playing on neomuna, has anyone else noticed enemies suddenly dying despite having quite a bit of hp left?

[lilac wraith]

tormentor jumping animation is so slow bruh 💀

[wanton halo]

Honestly I kinda disagree, as much as I hate tormentors I can’t one-shot them with a consecration like I can with subjugators

Tormentors are so disruptive because you aren’t allowed to disregard or burst them

[reef coyote]

I'M PUMPING IT UP

[onyx matrix]

on golly?

[spiral grove]

exactly

[alpine garnet]

h r

[wind bronze]

tormentor makes explosives do basically nothing and force me to use a weapon that requires aim so i have to at least show some respect

[lilac wraith]

h u

[wanton halo]

Don’t get me wrong I hate fighting them but the hatred is for all the right reasons

[spiral grove]

and they discourage the use of more weapons than lightbearers or gators

[wanton halo]

Exactly, they force me to need to stop spamming powers and actually commit to a real fight

[rustic lark]

i agree maybe i already fight so many tormentor and kinda enjoy with the new enemy ^^

[wanton halo]

Oh no I still love the subjugators

[tacit river]

Exactly

[spiral grove]

the subjugator supers are more scary than the lightbearer supers

[reef coyote]

Scratches head

[wanton halo]

The grims are cool but I’ve had enough concussions I don’t need tinnitus in game too

[wind marten]

The only one that it would feel unfair is only strand subjugator

[reef coyote]

hello giraf

[wind marten]

Stasis u could run away easily

[zealous wyvern]

is that taniks

[spiral grove]

take cover before they release the projectiles and they can never track you around corners

[rustic lark]

i like being pull around by the strand one ^^

[blissful scaffold]

witness

[rustic lark]

or getting hang lol

[zealous wyvern]

witness what?

[wind bronze]

if a strand subjugator catches you lacking prepare to meet pain

[wanton halo]

Btw did anybody else notice that they brought back Kelgorath for like the sixth time and downgraded him even more

[wind marten]

Or make them aim upwards, quite generous.

[reef coyote]

i'm new here, say hi!

[onyx matrix]

@onyx matrix Welcome!

[wind bronze]

keLgorath

[spiral grove]

lol hes a public event boss

[wanton halo]

He isn’t even a major knight anymore hes downgraded to the size of a normal one, I almost feel bad in a way

[spiral grove]

i dont i hate him

[rustic lark]

yup i think he will show up again at episode 3

[wanton halo]

Hes like the opposite of Taniks

Every comeback makes him weaker

Next expansion he’ll be a thrall

[wind marten]

Kelgoroth is basically that giant knight, moves abit slower but swings beeg axe rite?

[rocky gate]

@thick plaza go back to fortnite

[rustic lark]

kelgorath final form ( Cursed Thrall)

[lilac wraith]

i reset a checkpoint and unlocked all light subclasses 😎

[wanton halo]

Yes but in tfs he got downgraded to a basic knight lol

[spiral grove]

no hes gonna be the knight that drops a buff for a mechanic in the seasonal opening mission lmao

[wind bronze]

hard to say if he'll actually return in heresy, i think this is his fate because i'm not sure if xivu arath has control of the taken anymore

[wanton halo]

😭😭 this isn’t even off the table as a real thing too

[wind marten]

We fought like 6 copies of kelgorath in campaign just for glyph

[blissful scaffold]

the final boss

[rustic lark]

the final shape

[wanton halo]

I’d assume that the power will be given to the closest person to the witness at the time of his death

So likely an active disciple

[livid fossil]

Is there any info when they fix Ghost vendor shader in Pale Heart we will retroactively get it?

[wanton halo]

Eramis is kind of AWOL and rhulk/nezarac are presumed dead, calus is dead and savathun has fully detracted

[rustic lark]

what's wrong with the ghost?

[deep shell]

are servers down??

[wanton halo]

The only possible disciple we know of rn is xivu

[livid fossil]

The shader is wrong in the first reset and its required for the seal

[wanton halo]

He gives out the wrong shader as a reward

[spiral grove]

nezarec is definitely still alive but rhulk's remains went missing when a hidden agent detonated a nuke on them

[rustic lark]

ohh never know that

[wanton halo]

I know about the rhulk part but was there lore I missed regarding nezarac possibly living

[zealous wyvern]

who's the final boss?

[wanton halo]

Also btw we’re talking about planet busters I kinda refuse to believe rhulk died to a nuke

[wanton halo]

The witness

[livid fossil]

Nezarec says im still alive when dying and there are references to him POSSIBLY being still alive in Micah mission on the Moon

[wind bronze]

xivu supposedly abandoned the witness's cause sometime during the final shape

[rustic lark]

there's a lore about savathun killing him before us so it possible that he will be back again somehow

[wanton halo]

Interesting, I wouldn’t doubt it tbh

[zealous wyvern]

what is he witnessing?

[wanton halo]

My nuts being dunked in your face

[zealous wyvern]

but that's gay :(

[wanton halo]

Not for me

[livid fossil]

that's the fun part

[spiral grove]

there is a lost ghost mission in his pyramid and im assuming he will come back

[gaunt notch]

lol there's a 2 line limit now whyyyyyy

[bitter rose]

has the amount of people softcheating in lfgs went down this season?

[gaunt notch]

stop making the server worse pls

[wanton halo]

I could see a possible revenge arc where rhulk nezarac and maybe xivu unite to take the witnesses place

[gaunt notch]

xo

[wanton halo]

How many of them are there Jesus, I just hit the one where she gives you four at once

[livid fossil]

Was Xivu even ever on the Witness side? Savathun and Oryx were, but Xivu is just Xivu

[spiral grove]

theres like 8

[livid fossil]

10

[hallow wasp]

Sword logic is derived completely from the witness, she was just never informed about the real story

[wanton halo]

The presumption is that that there’s no way the taken would work with/for her without the witness making it so

[reef coyote]

This the third caretaker vid i watched god i love vow

[wanton halo]

do we know where is the wtiness

[hallow wasp]

Savathun learnt about getting tricked, xivu hasnt

[wanton halo]

Also she was working with eramis who was a disciple

[spiral grove]

i dont think eramis or xivu were disciples

[hallow wasp]

Eramis became one

[wanton halo]

Uh, I don’t know how to tell you this

[spiral grove]

they were never reshaped like calus, rhulk, or nezarec

[hallow wasp]

Xivu wasn't but did get likely a lot of favors

[ember trail]

Lol so i got a quest i cannot complete. Ghosts of the deep quest. Hmmm. Did they get rid of the dungeon?

[empty veldt]

how do i get a good 1-2 punch grapple hunter build going

[hallow wasp]

Edz director

[empty veldt]

i have synthos cloak but dont know if theres other stuff i need

[wanton halo]

I think those reshapings came as a necessity

[wanton halo]

Like they were chosen when they were already dying

[hallow wasp]

Eramis was very impromptu and she failed her mission and fled

[wanton halo]

They needed new bodies to serve, eramis was fine tho

[mental sequoia]

where do i get my exoticc after finishing a legend cmpaign

[hallow wasp]

Witness had bigger fish to fry so let her go ig

[rustic lark]

combine with caliban

[hallow wasp]

Did you do excision

[ember trail]

@hallow wasp that's warlord's ruin not ghosts of the deep.

[spiral grove]

from ghost

[empty veldt]

im more confused how ppl are getting their grapple back so fast?

[mental sequoia]

whats that

[hallow wasp]

Oh sorry ghosts is on legend tab I think

[empty veldt]

do u need that exotic trace rifle for it to work?

[hallow wasp]

Did you do the quest called queens part 1

[wanton halo]

It would have been cool to see her during avengers endgame excision

She clearly had a vendetta

[spiral grove]

navigator plus the catalyst from ghosts of the deep dungeon

[rustic lark]

mode from armor like orb pick up, using class item, etc

[ember trail]

@hallow wasp thanks. oddly enough the quest acted like i couldn't launch it.

[hallow wasp]

The last thing we know of eramis is that she fled fled to go live a less cringe life

[mental sequoia]

dont think so

[empty veldt]

AUGH THATS SO MUCH WORK

[hallow wasp]

Do that, and then wild hunt, then excision, then you get one of them

[empty veldt]

like ive seen mfs just straight up infinite grapple

[wanton halo]

That one stasis grenade she threw to save Mithraks was the peak of her career

[empty veldt]

over and over again it fries my brain

[spiral grove]

yeah you use the navigator to create a grapple point that refunds grapple

[tacit river]

strand hunter can create grapple points too

[hallow wasp]

Kinda but she really wants to just live a lesbian life with some other eliksni which is turbo based

[empty veldt]

okay i see

what does the catalyst do

[wanton halo]

what is double class item ?

[spiral grove]

you do a special reload and your next shot shoots out a grapple point like the ones in the lightfall campaign

[meager flower]

Imagine going from this to this

[empty veldt]

ok so u need the catalyst

[rustic lark]

there's a aspect or fragment i forgot that refund full grapple when you grapple to grapple point. i forgot did they fix it already or not

[spiral grove]

yes

[empty veldt]

okay thank you guys :)

[wanton halo]

Name a bigger L

[spiral grove]

he looks so scrawny 😭

[hallow wasp]

Kelgorath, actual waste of space

[wanton halo]

Wait no I just remembered Targe lol

[spiral grove]

TARGE LITERALLY SAVED ZAVALA

[meager flower]

Xivu called him a failure now

[wanton halo]

Play of the game goes to Zavala for losing everything

[zealous wyvern]

that's not an aspect, that's just how grapples work

[lilac wraith]

🤓 guys im gonna try to fight an eldritch god without arms or legs 🤓

[worthy bay]

is ironbanner this week?

[hallow wasp]

"you weren't there when you died on us"

[rustic lark]

i forgot ^^

[zealous wyvern]

they always full refund if you grab onto a grapple point across all characters. You're probably thinking of the hunter aspect that creates a grapple point upon using a grapple

[wanton halo]

This feels like a quote I’ve heard but I don’t remember when, where or who said it

[hallow wasp]

Years of story buildup for zavala ruined by one whining sesh

[meager flower]

Failure

[rustic lark]

yes... cause i never got navigator. don't know how many run i already did

[hallow wasp]

Zavala, after the strike in the middle of the campaign, talking to cayde

[wanton halo]

Oh yeah I forgot he went senile for a few minutes

[hallow wasp]

Yeah I lost all interest in zavala after that one

[wanton halo]

The most based moments of his career followed by the cringe of a thousand cringes

[zealous wyvern]

My years spent maining medic has finally come, I will become the full support warlock

[spiral grove]

"but without you, he will become one among its many." the dissenter literally told him that without targe's help zavala would have been subsumed

[zealous wyvern]

healing grenade, speaker helm, no hesitation, various team-oriented solar fragments

[wanton halo]

I’ve been his biggest hater since forsaken

[hallow wasp]

Like he spent several seasons getting over the loss of his wife but none of that mattered

[wanton halo]

He is NOT my vanguard

[hallow wasp]

He just instantly snapped back to whiny cringelord

[lilac wraith]

🟥 !!!!

[wanton halo]

I stg I didn’t like replaying red war for the first half of the campaign

[meager flower]

No light no purpose no ghost

[hallow wasp]

All other characters figured out what to do when nightmares try to make you upset but zavala just didnt

[wanton halo]

At least this time Zavala can’t afford to go missing again

[hallow wasp]

Please let zavala go missing again

[zealous wyvern]

well the witness did just basically make him relive her death again ontop of offering to bring her back if he joins

[meager flower]

You go missing

Youre a warlock

[wanton halo]

Can I just turn him into a big blue splatter already

[spiral grove]

ptsd

[hallow wasp]

Because you know the one character that's not believed a single thing the darkness has said suddenly just does

[wanton halo]

It’s pretty traumatizing to learn that in your last life you were a murderer and fighting to convince yourself that you aren’t him

[meager flower]

Oooh today nightfall is The Disgraced!!

[wanton halo]

Crow was still a new light and handled it better

[hallow wasp]

Also, if zavala is so vulnerable, send Saladin in

[wanton halo]

Zavala is supposed to be the physical embodiment of the wall around the city and he broke with a memory

[keen creek]

cant wait for pseudo-omigul to touch my ears

[zealous wyvern]

it's because his faith in the traveler has been declining quite a bit. The witness brings offers while the Traveler asks for sacrifice with little help

[spiral grove]

i think he handled it better exactly because he was a new light and had the guidance of mara and osiris

[lilac wraith]

zavala is such a noob!!

[wanton halo]

Saint-14-inches for the next Titan vanguard

[hallow wasp]

Except his lack of faith in one god shouldn't immediately translate to believing the next one

Every death so far made zavala angrier at the darkness/witness but suddenly he just forgor

[keen creek]

make me titan vanguard ill make soft tacos and cinamon brioche

[wanton halo]

Well at that time he only had Mara because he was still dealing with the grief of knowing that savathun was playing as Osiris too

[meager flower]

You cant cook

[spiral grove]

well you have to concede that he didnt listen to the voice in the darkness, he thought that dissenters were in need of saving and thats why he listened to them

[zealous wyvern]

what about the deaths regarding savathun's lucent brood which were caused indirectly by the traveler?

[meager flower]

Ive seen your food

[keen creek]

you saw my food in a moment of weakness

[meager flower]

You burn your food

[wanton halo]

My diet is 99% carnivore and my portion sizes could choke a horse

[hallow wasp]

Except he walked right where the witness wanted him without stopping to listen for a second

[spiral grove]

there was a really good audio log in Wish when crow asks real osiris if he should value any of the advice he was given by savathun impersonating him

[keen creek]

all of a sudden im a horse

[hallow wasp]

If he so badly wanted to kill the witness by listening to the dissenters, bring your fireteam

[bitter rose]

does anyone wanna join for a silly pit of heresy run?

[hallow wasp]

Like zavala shouldn't be this dumb

[mental sequoia]

where do i claim my exotic after finishing legend lightfall campaign

[reef coyote]

My king ice lord

[spiral grove]

well during the strike he does say that hes finally willing to take the risks that ikora has always demanded, but it doesnt discount that it was a mistake on his part in a moment of weakness

[hallow wasp]

Plots where characters are just plain stupid suck

[wanton halo]

I tame horses daily I don’t need more

[zealous wyvern]

well Zavala is simply acting irrationally due to immense trauma

[keen creek]

my ex-wife was a horse (i have no ex wife)

[wanton halo]

My ex girlfriend was a horse girl and now I’m never dating a horse girl again

Actual mental illness

[hallow wasp]

Except he's not taking a risk, he's going opposite day to everything people around him says, regardless of what it was

That's not taking risks, that's whining and crying

[zealous wyvern]

But wasn't it not the witness beckoning him, but a Dissenter?

[wanton halo]

Ngl I feel like Zavala ultimately did nothing that couldn’t have been done through some other means

[hallow wasp]

Which, again, all buildup to the dlc has him overcome the trauma and process it

So we spent all those seasons for nothing since he's still a whining mistake

[tacit river]

anyone fw Tesselation now that we got catalyst and exotic class items?

[wind bronze]

no

[wanton halo]

Savathun may still be a twat but she was on that battlefield when we needed her, I doubt she wouldn’t have known something about how to beat the witness

[spiral grove]

i mean zavala did ultimately get the guidance he was looking fro from a dissenter and i feel like youre unfairly judging his actions in that situation

[hallow wasp]

Not clear if he ever talked to a dissenter

[echo trellis]

dude this one looks so good

[wanton halo]

Zavala let his ghost die for honestly nothing

[echo trellis]

im too used to mid sniper reused models

[hallow wasp]

Dude has had years on years to get ready for something like this and just didnt

[echo trellis]

im so glad they made tfs a bop in everything

[hallow wasp]

So yes I will judge that xd

[wanton halo]

Wait is the master out already

Tf

[zealous wyvern]

It is clear, a Dissenter appeared frequently inside the temptation vision from the Witness

[spiral grove]

only a dissenter could have given him that in that moment?

[tacit ledge]

Sam Suksiri makes long form videos and nobody told me

[hallow wasp]

In that vision, but before then and when he walked off on his own

[zealous wyvern]

It was literally shining a light into his face to pull his attention to hint towards the Witness' weakness

[wanton halo]

Who even is that

[hallow wasp]

After he did the stupid thing and enter it alone yes

[zealous wyvern]

and the Dissenter was the one that was communing with him when he touched the statue of his wife

[hallow wasp]

It was pure luck

[tacit ledge]

Lego master builder, his long form videos are like "analyses" of toys and why we like them

[meager flower]

Yes

[hallow wasp]

Also

[wanton halo]

I don’t think the information Zavala gained was worthwhile tbh, savathun definitely could have given us something similar to work with

[hallow wasp]

We gave ourselves to darkness while bringing our ghost, zavala just didnt

[tacit ledge]

like there's a part of one video where he talks about the difference in imagination when you have more complex toys vs more abstract ones

[hallow wasp]

He was just upset and didn't want his literal respawn button with him

[spiral grove]

he was making a mistake

[wanton halo]

Destiny is a fun game but they don’t deal with trauma well when it comes to immortal beings with hundreds of years of life

[hallow wasp]

Yeah that's what I say is bad storytelling

[zealous wyvern]

I mean, should you bring your ghost? The Witness was able to nearly destroy our ghost

[hallow wasp]

The campaign is still good but zavala is insufferable

[alpine garnet]

hi Cur

[hallow wasp]

Yes

[vast fox]

is osmiomancy + starfire a good roll?

[zealous wyvern]

Guardians can come back, Ghosts cant

[hallow wasp]

Targe died anyway, so bring him and keep him safe

[wanton halo]

If Zavala got lost in there he wouldn’t have came back anyway

[hallow wasp]

But now targe had to rush in and die to not have zavala get merked

[spiral grove]

characters making mistakes dont make bad storytelling

[hallow wasp]

Ok so you didn't read anything I said

[wanton halo]

It’s the type of mistakes and the context that made this bad

[alpine garnet]

hi Sauce

[hallow wasp]

Hi uchur

[zealous wyvern]

As long as a ghost lives, a Guardian isn't fully dead

[tacit river]

Zavala's crisis was a good narrative point, if they handled him like the same old cheesy headstrong commander it would have been boring

[hallow wasp]

Yeah so bring targe and keep him alive

[alpine garnet]

fax

[hallow wasp]

Instead of telling him off and being stubborn

[hallow wasp]

Making him competent would be refreshing

[wanton halo]

Zavala has lived for hundreds of years and hes still an insecure whiny twat over a death that he “accepted” in season 17

[spiral grove]

he didnt want targe in the line of fire as per his convo after the fact

[tacit river]

imagine they actually made people think we would be fighting Zavala as a disciple, how is that not a good plot

[zealous wyvern]

Zavala got to relive the single worst thing to happen in his entire new life

[south haven]

Caliban & Synthoceps for hunter is good ?

[wanton halo]

Yall are overlooking how long hes been alive and how much time hes had to process those deaths

[tacit river]

good but not as good as it sounds

[zealous wyvern]

You can move on from something, but if it happens again it messes you up bad

[wanton halo]

It’s going to happen again on a universal scale if he doesn’t man up and do his job

[spiral grove]

calling a character's emotional capacity to move past trauma unrealistic isnt really a fair criticism to make off fictional characters

[wanton halo]

The fact that he didn’t is why targe died

[south haven]

whats a better 1 ?

[wanton halo]

It is when hes lived for that long

[tacit river]

Renewal / Liar works a lot better imo

[zealous wyvern]

accept that it isn't, The Witness isn't trying to kill the entire universe, but to change it, rip out an essential part and rebuild it new

No one will die, but just be rendered stagnant and unchanging

[wanton halo]

What is death if not lack of life

What is life if not being fluid and changing

[alpine garnet]

kinda hard when nearly total annihilation events happen every year and you see and participate in violence very often (as a guardian)

[meager flower]

@echo trellis

[wanton halo]

That’s kind of the opposite effect, after that many times it numbs you

[weak python]

are servers down rn?

[spiral grove]

there is no standard of characters' emotional development in fictional universes especially in unrealistic circumstances like actually reliving the events all over again

[wanton halo]

A similar in-universe situation is guardian deaths

[zealous wyvern]

"Zavala shouldn't be upset reliving the death of his son again, he should just be calm and coordinated lol. How dare he acts angry after reliving a traumatic event!"

[wanton halo]

Being immortal doesn’t make dying any less scary and painful, but dying a thousand times does

[wanton halo]

Yeah I mean that’s not even wrong, do you want to cry about your wife or die with the universe

Priorities

[lilac wraith]

ghost shells should just be ornaments

[wanton halo]

Mourn the dead later

Before you lose the chance to mourn

That’s something he should know

[spiral grove]

isnt that literally why he put himself forward and was willing to sacrifice himself so the entire fireteam could know how to kill the witness?

[frigid hatch]

eeehh.... you don't ever really accept that kinda thing... you just learn to put on a facade and say you do lol

[wanton halo]

He took a risk that may not have needed to be taken in the first place, for example savathun has already given herself to darkness for billions of years, we had options to check off before doing something that dumb

[tardy crypt]

what the

[frigid hatch]

Ikora says it herself mid-campaign

[wanton halo]

Again, do you wanna cry about your wife or let her memory die with you and the rest of the universe

[frigid hatch]

"Zavala is having a crisis of faith"

it's not JUST his family trauma bugging him lmao

hyper-fixating on it is dumb

[spiral grove]

yes as his character under the stress he was being put through made a risk that didnt pay off superficially according to him but actually was what directly led to the death of the witness

[wanton halo]

Change what I said to for whatever trauma or issue he has, stop me when it outweighs the universe dying

[zealous wyvern]

Homeboy cannot understand how normal humans react to intense trauma

[tardy crypt]

what

[frigid hatch]

i mean.... Zavala very clearly hates the Traveler now

[wanton halo]

I feel like the end of all things would be pretty traumatic

[frigid hatch]

so it's not like he hasn't changed lmao

[wanton halo]

Just me tho

[frigid hatch]

Zavala is VERY disillusioned

[blissful scaffold]

Zavala find Traveller quiet and laid back angry

[frigid hatch]

pretty much

[wanton halo]

It’s not wrong to have the burden of trauma, it is wrong to let it overrule your reasoning still after hundreds of years of living with it and when the universe is on the line

[frigid hatch]

Con's yapping doesn't really suggest bro has lost anything significant to 'em yet either though cuz bro does not understand Zavala's trauma isn't that farfetched at all

[zealous wyvern]

it isn't just trauma, he was hopelessness

[wanton halo]

Don’t pretend like you know me or anything I’ve been through or lost, stay on topic

You don’t know jack about my personal life

[frigid hatch]

i'll do what i like :)

[wanton halo]

You like being wrong

[zealous wyvern]

Zavala genuinely seemed extremely depressed, especially after the main campaign during the missions with Caitl

[frigid hatch]

like Ikora said, it was a crisis of faith

[wanton halo]

Like I said it’s okay to be depressed in his position, I still feel like the risks he took were too far out of his character though

[zealous wyvern]

The witness has offered more to Zavala in the span of its arrival than the Traveler has in the hundreds of years Zavala has served it

[frigid hatch]

that was done deliberately

[zealous wyvern]

like literally, the Traveler has done nothing for him despite his immense servitude and sacrifice for its protection

[wanton halo]

I have no interest in having a good faith conversation with you after you tried to conclude I’ve never lived through hardships

[frigid hatch]

k, so anyway

[keen creek]

hey wait why are we talking about real people's past

[zealous wyvern]

we're talking about Zavala

[frigid hatch]

Zavala learned through Micah-10 that the Traveler can't even control what it does

[wanton halo]

Exactly, my opinion on a fictional character has nothing to do with bringing up me or anything I’ve lived through

[keen creek]

why was Conny's past life and hardships brought up?

[echo trellis]

this is too crotas end to me ngl

[keen creek]

i dont care who's "right" here

[frigid hatch]

bro took an anecdote too personally, not my problem :)

[keen creek]

lets just not do that

[wanton halo]

An anecdote is a personal story, you mentioned me directly

[keen creek]

be the bigger person, lets not get into this

[wanton halo]

This is not an anecdote

[meager flower]

WHAT!?

[zealous wyvern]

because it's weird for them to deem Zavala's arc as poorly handled despite the character going through a very rough spot

[spiral grove]

next exotic mission i want it to be 5 players required and not more or less than 5 lmao

[frigid hatch]

i can say nothing and bro continues, your advice is better suited for 'em, not me lmao

[keen creek]

My advice is for both of you

[wanton halo]

Yes, I’m trying to see the situation through the eyes of a veteran that has seen literally everything over the course of hundreds of years

[frigid hatch]

apparently lashing out and behaving unexpectedly is bad writing for a character losing their mind

[wanton halo]

His experience isn’t really a human one

[echo turret]

Can someone help me with enigma protocol?

[tacit river]

bro some of yall out here thinking they didn't put thought into zavala's arc meanwhile the entire saga ended on the day of Lance Reddick's birthday

[zealous wyvern]

Getting angry over reliving the death of his son isn't...a human experience?

[frigid hatch]

apparently not lmao

[lilac wraith]

is that the one from vanguard?

[zealous wyvern]

Conny that kind of death sticks with you, and I mean sticks with you

[wanton halo]

That’s a human experience, the life of a guardian isn’t very human, that’s my point

[zealous wyvern]

guardians are very much humans

[potent pike]

good? bad? idk weapons anymore

[zealous wyvern]

we're immortal and wield the light, but we're not heartless robots

[keen creek]

i think zavala has every right to lash against the traveler after being ignored for hundreds of years, as a silent god, then all of a sudden the DARKNESS of all things "sympathizes with him"

[frigid hatch]

careful bro we don't wanna ASSUME :)

[spiral grove]

ive played this game for like 6 years and honestly cannot tell you if this is good or not 😭

linears have gone through so much shifts and this is the first burst with BnS i DO NOT know 😭

[meager flower]

Yes

[echo turret]

Is a hunter black and white good?

[wanton halo]

He didn’t do anything close to what you did, don’t worry you’re the only problem

[frigid hatch]

he is in the right, when Micah-10 tells him the Traveler can't control its own powers Zavalah passive aggressively calls it a useless god

[meager flower]

Is the best one now

[keen creek]

we're on the same page yeah

[summer rivet]

commander zaza off his juice 😔

[keen creek]

me rn

[spiral grove]

but surrounded better?

[wanton halo]

My opinion is that Zavala was a little too fast and reckless to do what he did, regardless of that opinion it happened and I still enjoyed the ride

That’s it

[lilac wraith]

isnt surrounded and BNS the same dmg buff %

[wanton halo]

Surrounded is a bit higher

[frigid hatch]

Cayde's been around for centuries too, and he had zero patience for anything

[spiral grove]

enhanced surrounded is 42 bns is 30

[lilac wraith]

oo

[wanton halo]

Bns is 30%

[lilac wraith]

12% is kinda a lot

[frigid hatch]

Surrounded requires 4+ enemies nearby

[brisk iron]

It's worthless because you barely can proc it

[wanton halo]

Yes, the trade off is the conditions needed to activate them

[frigid hatch]

BNS just hit something with your guns rq

[dreamy swan]

The Witness was ripping up the Traveler's guts, everyone could hear and feel it, but Ikora and Cayde wanted to go on vision quests instead of take direct action.

[summer rivet]

honestly the zazala could've solod the witness if he just gave them a pepsi

[zealous wyvern]

Y'know I always wondered

Why can ONLY guardians wield the light, but anybody can wield darkness

[scarlet ermine]

Zavala is cooked now bro is stuck on stasis titan 😭😭😭

[frigid hatch]

that gets explained in Lightfall

[final perch]

https://fxtwitter.com/mpeditsyt/status/1802465503119606145?s=46

[spare mountain]

you won the game

[wanton halo]

The light can only be used when given, anybody with a will can take the darkness

[keen creek]

hence why light-bearers are such a big deal

[frigid hatch]

Osiris' own words during Lightfall when we're training against some random vex to use Strand

[scarlet basin]

are the overthrow bosses random or do they switch daily

[spiral grove]

RANDOM

[meager flower]

Surrounded is situational

[frigid hatch]

"The light requires the right tools., the Darkness the right rituals."

[spiral grove]

id go through the effort for 12%

[zealous wyvern]

I tuned grandpa Osiris out during Lightfall tbh, I grew tired of him whining about the veil

[frigid hatch]

Light doesn't have to be given

[wanton halo]

It’s less about effort and more about “are there enough enemies spawning during dps”

[frigid hatch]

the Cabal figured out how to use the Light by forcefully stealing it

[spiral grove]

bns is obviously more consistent and reliable

[twilit pewter]

let him cook

[keen creek]

many boss fights dont have the adds to proc it

[spiral grove]

but not just all out better

[frigid hatch]

Ghaul found out wtf happened if the Traveler went "hell naw dude" though

[keen creek]

ghaul got goonified

[wanton halo]

Personal theory but I feel like the traveller waited for him to try to siphon it and basically power surged him by giving him way too much on purpose

[zealous wyvern]

hey dont diss stasis titan the super hits hard and the crystals can annoy your friends

[twilit pewter]

zavala can solo riven now

[keen creek]

melee is the absolute worst thing in the game

[wanton halo]

Riven will never see it coming

[wanton halo]

For the love of god just make a shoulder charge

[golden sandal]

where do you launch seraph shield from?

[wanton halo]

The legends tab

[keen creek]

GENUINELY imaging a peregrine frost knee

[summer rivet]

boutta play peekaboo with the tormentors using stasis

[golden sandal]

o ty

[wanton halo]

The other stasis Titan use: making a maze for tormentors to run through after you accidentally pissed him off

[zealous wyvern]

that's why you dont use it and just spam howl of the storm

[meager flower]

Why does incisor adept look mid

[wanton halo]

Stasis Titan needs an entire specialized rework, hunter and warlock are in an okay place now but titans need a lot

[zealous wyvern]

though the melee is funny cuz it has way too much knockback when it hits enemies through crystals

[keen creek]

i got a hoarfrost + armamentarium class item and i spammed it with howl of the bast

[summer rivet]

if you can't freeze em - mess with their pathfinding

[zealous wyvern]

I once sent the wyvern on neomuns to the abyss with the melee

[wanton halo]

Let me suppress tormentors

[keen creek]

what are some d2 hottakes lets get this server pumping with hate

[inland rover]

did they nerf the hunter one two punch strand thing

[zealous wyvern]

you actually can, just not the boss ones

[lilac wraith]

no

[keen creek]

Imprints of Nezarec or named tormentors cant be stunned

[frigid hatch]

just check its HP bar color

[zealous wyvern]

tormentors cannot handle their ankles being broken by abusing ledges to cheese them

[inland rover]

i aint hitting 600ks

this is rigged!!!

[zealous wyvern]

this is unreliable as minibosses (stunnable) and bosses (not stunnable) have the same gold HP bar

[lilac wraith]

i 4 hit the first warlord ruin boss yesterday

[keen creek]

but but but.. strand titan 😦

[zealous wyvern]

you need to focus on the symbol, Bosses have a skull and a gold triangle icon next to their HP

[wanton halo]

Salvations edge isn’t hard and I’m tired of watching people call shapes complicated

[inland rover]

idk what im doing wrong

[lilac wraith]

what ARE you doin

[zealous wyvern]

I'm going to salvations edge

[inland rover]

i get overshield, tether adds, have syntho cape

i have ikelos god roll

[lilac wraith]

with 12p?

[brazen fern]

i hope so

[wanton halo]

Dissecting is the most scary mechanic that requires no brain power

[inland rover]

12p?

[brazen fern]

one two punch

[lilac wraith]

^^

[inland rover]

yea i have 12

[brazen fern]

then you arent doing it correctly

[zenith portal]

all brave weaponns are still in onslaught right

[inland rover]

whats the setup

[brazen fern]

there is a 2 second invis cooldown

[zenith portal]

just onn a ranndom roll right

[brazen fern]

you arent keeping that mind

[inland rover]

okay ill retry

[brazen fern]

shoot the shotty at nothing in between grapples

[lilac wraith]

keep ads alive, tether -> shoot boss -> grapple melee -> break invis -> repeat

[brazen fern]

or just wait the 2 seconds

[inland rover]

i do but i think im doing it too fast?

[spiral grove]

hi alpha

[brazen fern]

thats probably why

[wanton halo]

I’m lowkey looking forward to seeing the still hunt nerf, I wanna watch hunters cry

[inland rover]

k thanks guys

[frigid hatch]

just kill it in sub 3 seconds ig

get microcosm brah

see look even the dumbest dude in the server has it

[brazen fern]

microcosm is so busted on subjugators and tormentors

it does like 20k per tick on BOSS subjugators

thats 320k dps

[wanton halo]

Subjugators don’t even really need micro tbh

[frigid hatch]

yep, due to a coding oversight, Tormentors and Subjugators HP is counted as a shield for some stupid reason lmao

[zealous wyvern]

I predicted the heavy trace rifle long before Microcosm was announced

[brazen fern]

i hope they dont fix it, its so funny

[keen creek]

lore-wise makes sense too, being pure traveler kinetic light

[frigid hatch]

could be deliberate, bungo is weird

[brazen fern]

lorewise, microcosm should be the strongest weapon in the game

its pure light

[frigid hatch]

i pulled this outa my vault again for EZ barrier champs

[spiral grove]

thats how they have their unique DR and why subjugators have stasis and strand shields respectively

[wanton halo]

Lorewise last word is just a gun

[spiral grove]

its not really an oversight its resourceful

[bitter rose]

why is fireteam finder like 1000x worse than last season

[keen creek]

lorewise, i poo my pant

[brazen fern]

influx of new/returning players

[lilac wraith]

because the game is slightly more popular now

[brazen fern]

fireteam finder was okay last season

[wanton halo]

I don’t know why people see subjugators as being a big threat tbh, they are one consecration slam

[frigid hatch]

implying their hitbox is basically just one big insert element shield here you'd think Same Element damage would be neutral to their DR

[bitter rose]

yeah, people like dont know where the sprint button is and they dont know how to shoot their weapons, gg

[spiral grove]

its actually bonus damage for same element damage

[tacit ledge]

i hope they dont get rid of episodes

[lilac wraith]

its when their paired with other enemies that they get annoying

[tacit ledge]

i feel like theyre gonna anyways but

[keen creek]

did lfg warlords ruin the other day and a rank 10 warlock said "use outbreak on ogre it literally melts"

[frigid hatch]

they still resist it if you dont hit precision

[tacit ledge]

why not just move the echoes stuff out of the helm and to nessus

[wanton halo]

For me that’s the opposite effect because I get more ignitions which is more damage on them

[spiral grove]

omens take bonus stasis damage and the damage numbers turn stasis blue

[lilac wraith]

💀 ☠️

[tacit ledge]

nessus ahs nothing else going for it 💀

[brazen fern]

strand does more damage on strand subjugators

same for stasis

[lilac wraith]

damn bro, also i luv ur pfp its epic

[frigid hatch]

i still see lower numbers if im not hitting precision

[brazen fern]

microcosm is just shield destroyer incarnate though so it doesnt matter lol

[wanton halo]

Yea my sister sent it to me and said I look exactly like this so I use it on everything

[wanton halo]

They waited for match game to die before giving us shield breaking weapons

[brazen fern]

microcosm would have been meta in match game

[spiral grove]

arby?

[lilac wraith]

W

[brazen fern]

would have made the modifier irrelevant

[rare mountain]

Were Neomuna Patrols removed with final shape?

[keen creek]

man why the HELL did bungie waste a titan class item slot on kephris horn like wtf

[wanton halo]

Remember the 3 month period when it couldn’t break any champions before match game was removed

[frigid hatch]

consider the following if Microcosm is still too slow for your Tormentor needs

[wanton halo]

SHUT

[spiral grove]

i remember the 3 month period when it was the only thing allowe din gms or i got kicked

[wanton halo]

All they need to do to make this less broken is remove the damage multiplier that celestial gives it

[keen creek]

the fact they gave every class HOIL but slapped kephris horn and alpha lupi on titan is disgraceful

slap in the crotch, if you will

[wanton halo]

They can still combine the 3 shots but the 6.5x damage on a special weapon is unnecessary

[wanton halo]

Also the fact that you can pop the super and switch off of the fun and bring it back out with the super still active

[frigid hatch]

consider the following if you're not a hunter

[wanton halo]

Izi doesn’t even come close to still hunt

[keen creek]

thats true unfortunately

[long mirage]

☹️

[wanton halo]

Still hunt is just a golden gun that you can spam

[frigid hatch]

can someone teach this guy how much damage Izzy does on a 4x honed shot? im aboutta go to bed

[wanton halo]

no dmg

[wanton halo]

Yeah it does less than half of still hunt+celestial

What part of that makes me wrong

[keen creek]

idk why frost said that like he cooked

[frigid hatch]

also consider the following if you still wanna use "tons of bullets"

free poopoo weaken but still an LMG

[fresh siren]

ALHOCOL IS NOT WORTH IT

[frigid star]

anyone know how to submit an entry to the #recognition channel for sherpa?

[meager flower]

I have a weapon you guys dont have

[wanton halo]

Alcohol is absolutely worth it

[keen creek]

showshowshow

[frigid hatch]

tbh just consider the following for literally any encounter in the game....

[lilac wraith]

h

[meager flower]

I have Wicked Implement

[keen creek]

i thought you were gonna pull out a year 1 faction rally exclusive but nooo////

[wanton halo]

I remember when YouTubers were trying to convince everyone that this was gonna be a sleeper Meta

[fresh siren]

no dude I feel like a complete bufffoon rn

[brazen fern]

idk why titans are so upset

[fresh siren]

LIKE WHO USES BUFFOON UNLESS THEY ARE INEBRIATED

[wanton halo]

You didn’t drink enough

[karmic gorge]

I think it was said "consider the following if you're not a warlock."
Warlocks can cook rotations with izi

[brazen fern]

you got a shiny dong

isnt that enough

[frigid hatch]

cuz they arent top DPS anymore waaa boohoo

[inland rover]

whats the dps meta on warlock, i crutch still hunt too hard rn

[brazen fern]

at least they got a shiny dong bro

[karmic gorge]

Can't reload to save thier life.

[frigid hatch]

Izzy / Edge swap / Lament / Sleeper Simulant

[wanton halo]

Keep my shiny (big long juicy meaty) dong out of this

[keen creek]

titans are upset because class item sucks, at least thats why i am

[karmic gorge]

Izi gl, edge swap.

Wrong reply

[potent pike]

im not upset

if i get scars and eternal im set

[wanton halo]

I’m not upset necessarily, I’m just disappointed at the damage gap between us and other classes

[frigid hatch]

titans are madge they can't do 1.4 million in a single hit

[keen creek]

i do not like you

[frigid hatch]

chumps

[keen creek]

i love you

[wanton halo]

We’re losing any place we had in any team and it’s kinda tragic

[acoustic abyss]

yo the birds to change the cysts aint appearing anyone know why?

[potent pike]

bungo should add a exotic thats just for titans like they did w still hunt, but that requires work so they obviously wont do it

[ripe glade]

How does khvostov and red death have such low stability but feel amazing

[frigid hatch]

tfw Caretaker but everybody is a Radiant Dodge Gold Gun hunter

[wanton halo]

Hazardous+overture

[fresh siren]

im not even kidding, as someone who si drunk AF RN

[frigid hatch]

good, move over

[meager flower]

Uh ses glacial quake does

[fresh siren]

ALCOHOL IS NOT WORHT IT DONT DRINK PEASE

[frigid hatch]

warlocks too with that well nerf

[wanton halo]

It’s worth it you need to drink more

[frigid hatch]

[keen creek]

stop yapping

[potent pike]

as someone whos been drinking since they were 14 i can safely say you are WRONG

[long mirage]

❌

[keen creek]

NOT a flex

[frigid hatch]

i said ONE hit, not a thousand hits

[wanton halo]

Weird I started drinking at the same age

[potent pike]

nor was what the guy before said

[wanton halo]

3 years of experience no regrets

[keen creek]

degen on main

[wanton halo]

I’m a degen anywhere and everywhere

[potent pike]

"not a flex"

[wanton halo]

I never said I was flexing, I just said I’m a degen

[keen creek]

yeah man rehab sucks ass

[wanton halo]

Do with that what you will

[alpine garnet]

[potent pike]

wasnt addressed to you

[acoustic abyss]

yo the birds to change the cysts aint appearing anyone know why?

[wanton halo]

That’s why I keep drinking instead of going

[wanton halo]

You don’t deserve them

[potent pike]

same imma get drunk later

[spare mountain]

the birds are extinct sadly

[frigid hatch]

you smell, so they flew away

[wanton halo]

Im high rn but I’ll be drinking Friday

[keen creek]

i dont wanna "old man" you but just take care of yourselves, alcohol can and will ruin things for ya if it gets out of hand

[frigid hatch]

stand in the shower for an hour stinky

[potent pike]

i wish i had painkillers but i dont so no high

[alpine garnet]

thanks guys, I'll try to get some genuine help elsewhere(even though there's 1,000s of yall & i have a limited amount of time to do it)

[wanton halo]

I got a penjamin

[spare mountain]

[wanton halo]

L

[eager path]

a thousand voices

[spare mountain]

Who are you...

[wanton halo]

A thousand Ls

[potent pike]

average schits person

[keen creek]

what were you even asking

[kind girder]

Penjy 🤝

[karmic gorge]

Song of flame and the stage helm is a good alternative

[spare mountain]

newgen

[wanton halo]

The best way to relax

[karmic gorge]

DR to everyone and a healing rift

[kind girder]

Beats being drunk 1000 times over

[frigid hatch]

tfw i hear Song and i kill the lock anyway through it in pvp

they get WAY too overconfident lmao

[keen creek]

sigma over here

[karmic gorge]

DR values differ from PVE and PVP.

PVP is wayy less

Pve DR is 90%

[wanton halo]

Part of me wants to see supers feel more super in pvp, the other part of me loves hitting roamers with conditional

[spare mountain]

warlords meatball didn't even graze me

[wanton halo]

Imo make them harder to charge but in turn increase their DR and resistance to status effects

[karmic gorge]

Supers already take a long ass time to charge

[potent pike]

mine dont

my pris doesnt tbh i dont even have 10 intellect

[wanton halo]

(You get more charge from kills and hitting crits)

[karmic gorge]

Sure

[keen creek]

is this a subtle diss

[wanton halo]

Perchance

[karmic gorge]

In a comp environment? You aren't getting alot of those

[keen creek]

i mean...

[wanton halo]

I’m talking about the fun modes

[karmic gorge]

Goofy ahh sticker

[wanton halo]

Crucible but it’s a 100 man ffa

And the setting is a whole world zone

[tacit ledge]

breach executable is actually kinda heat

[brazen fern]

boring

[potent pike]

anyone wanna do 12 man gm later?

[tacit ledge]

ok

[potent pike]

^

[long mirage]

and slowly planets get removed

[karmic gorge]

Ray 😉

[tacit ledge]

i still find it fun

[potent pike]

i love doing gardening

[meager flower]

https://youtu.be/i8Egu_TGsxM?si=6PcMv858SQW4eWQ1

[tacit ledge]

🤢

[wanton halo]

Ok but why tho

We get it aztecross is a bad guardian

[meager flower]

Shaw han is the worst guardian lol

[potent pike]

he looks liek shrek

[tacit ledge]

i got matched with two of the worst blueberries ever

[brazen fern]

bro lost to a red bar wizard

[tacit ledge]

neither of them shot at the boss

[brazen fern]

aint no way

[tacit ledge]

one guy literally just walked past him

[potent pike]

gimme 5 mins i can raise you w worse

[wanton halo]

He needs to take that young ahamkara spine off he ain’t using it

[glad bear]

what mission do i have to clear to unlock prismatic aspects

on other characters

[meager flower]

He lost his team to navota

[wanton halo]

Campaign and the adventures that appear in the landing zone

[long mirage]

LMAO i just blinded some guy popping his super

[wanton halo]

Yes you have to do all 6 again

[potent pike]

or just get the one you need

[analog agate]

I think Lorentz driver needs a buff in all aspects a AA in fact

[wanton halo]

You’re all laughing now but one day my shadow clone combination blow loadout will be meta

[analog agate]

Aim assistance sucks whenever the species of enemy you’re facing msttters got the utility that’s an issue

[hoary parcel]

what is the fastest strike now i need to do the exotic cipher

[potent pike]

poe

[wanton halo]

Give it a shoot to loot that works on it’s marks

[hoary parcel]

full name please retruning player

[potent pike]

nightfall

[karmic gorge]

Nice pfp you got there

[hoary parcel]

ok

thx

[potent pike]

mine is better

[wanton halo]

That ok made me audibly laugh

The timing was amazing

[analog agate]

Allied kills need to drop the specific item for the buff of the weapon

[wanton halo]

Whats current meta on crota boss fight? what weapon combo people play?

[potent pike]

idk

[wanton halo]

Swords, namely lament and bequest, if you’re a Titan use strand or prismatic

[analog agate]

What do you mean by this. How would shoot to loot help an Lfusion

[wanton halo]

The exotic perk makes tags that need to be picked up to activate the secondary effect

[analog agate]

In ful honest two wells and a sword

Two wells was probs master crota I’m thinking of haha still need master crota challenge for sparrow

[wanton halo]

I can only really see it being useful in a gm senario or something similar where you wouldn’t be able to leave cover to grab them

[smoky vessel]

I spent all night on a commission for someone who was doing the new raid with me… I’m tired as hell but I’m happy with how it turned out-

[analog agate]

I see where you come from perhaps increase area you pick them up from and allow allied kills on marked target to drop the item

[stoic perch]

Hi I’ve done the final shape story and try a do the cyst missions but only one that is showing up is the sword dance how do I get the others?

[wanton halo]

fck i dont have a good sword only my eager edge other half sword

[analog agate]

In full honest aim assist for controller on Lorentz is so terrible it needs help

[wanton halo]

Do you have the lament? It’s an exotic solar sword from beyond light

[analog agate]

Whenever I as a disabled player have to squint to double check if it land as a crit

[stoic perch]

?

[analog agate]

I already need ASAP to do anything

[brazen fern]

the story you don't know is such a good song

[analog agate]

The gun was overly diminished due to pvp issues lol that was soooo much fuc ing fun

[wanton halo]

Dont think tbh. unless i can buy it

[brazen fern]

or rather kimi no shiranai monogatari

[analog agate]

Season of the lost was great brought the first ever rogue like version of Destiny which we even see today!

[wanton halo]

You can get it from collections but it’s an exotic quest from Europa

[meager flower]

https://youtu.be/iYeCbkDOQJo?si=exM-_o8hRqShSRJd

[thin perch]

I am trying to get the lost encryption bits to get the exotic, but I am not getting any from the cysts.

I did all the quests and didnt get any and I just did a cyst from the world map. Anyone know what to do?

[scarlet basin]

the overthrow bosses are random?!?!?! ive gotten the same one 3 times in a row at 2 different locations

[scarlet basin]

its like "trash piles" you gotta find in the cyst

[wanton halo]

i feel so scared of raids in destiny lol i used to raid in d1 every raid but somehow in d2 when i came back i never did any

[spare mountain]

you gotta find 'em on the cyst

[thin perch]

oh... are they random?

[spare mountain]

no

[celest cedar]

anyone had the memory vestages not becoming memorys? i have 10 light and 10 dark but no purple memory items